zealot-class

[misty mason]

Thammer users probably still need TWBS to prevent charge drop

[brave plover]

Sorry, which boltgun?

[misty mason]

e.g. standing on bon bon gruel and losing your charge

[trail mantle]

fullsize boltgun for big packs of armor

[violet hornet]

Locke mk 2b spearhead boltgun

[misty mason]

Theres only one boltgun

[violet hornet]

as opposed to the bolt pistol

[misty mason]

ye

[brave plover]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-space-marines-warhammer40k-astartes-astartes-film-bolter-astartes-film2space-marine-shooting-gif-26385360

[brave plover]

Because you can do this?

[fleet zealot]

do you have astartes

wrist?

you are human

[remote lark]

yes

1 mag kills 3 crushers

lol

[weak slate]

I'm stuck doing the purging flames penance, anyone has tips, its seems to not really work at all..

[plucky gate]

@zinc talon actually nvm i'm wrong, ammo gets wasted on nothing when it's held down

[remote lark]

spam the first area of merc with flame grenades then leave and repeat

[brave plover]

Does he?

[weak slate]

It won't go up

[heavy arch]

which tier of wep do u create to pump something to lvl 20, i forget

[weak slate]

or go up by 2 tops per large amount of enemies

[remote lark]

upgrade it once

[heavy arch]

thx babe

[mossy tulip]

first time ive seen someone lose to themselves in an argument

[full nebula]

So which powersword mark is clearly better than the others and whats the dumpstat?

[pine osprey]

the hood of rightous suffering is epic

love how it looks

[copper hawk]

Uh ii i guess

[fleet zealot]

mobility, neither

mk10 is arguably simpler

mk2 might have a higher top end

[copper hawk]

And mobility

Cranial and rampage

Flak and carapace

[oblique forum]

I like the one with the 2 swings stab light combo

But I haven't tried the other one yet

[remote lark]

Read pins

Mk3 is best overall but it's really just preference

The movesets are essentially mirrors of each other

[oblique forum]

Also

Can they like

[misty mason]

kiss?

[oblique forum]

Have less fucking crushers in the last room of the new mission

[oblique forum]

Offering?

[misty mason]

Would you prefer it if they weren't fucking?

[remote lark]

No

[reef plume]

no they need to be fucking

[oblique forum]

Yes actually

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/gg-gif-27092095

[rocky nacelle]

when no warp unbound and i force shove kill myself

kino

[oblique forum]

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-gif-11816971814746635421

[waxen fulcrum]

Mk2 power greatsword is pretty based

[remote lark]

Skull issue

💀

[brisk raft]

So I dipped my toes into Relic Sword, a really fascinating weapon.

Though, I need help figuring out the combos, particularly the heavies. Feels like a mix-mash of verticals and horizontals

[remote lark]

Read pins

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/the-jungle-book-shere-khan-what-a-pity-how-sad-too-bad-gif-14302272

[oblique forum]

@misty mason stop being in the same servers as me >:c

[light badge]

I've pavlov'd myself into never using force push

Too many Flayer procs on Bursters

[misty mason]

Checks mutual servers
oops all fascism simulators

[remote lark]

🤨

[oblique forum]

The problem?

[misty mason]

Darktide, SM2, Helldivers 2

[oblique forum]

I have starship troopers as well

[sage river]

Too bad, youre getting crushed

[oblique forum]

I wasn't actually my team was

Still not a good time running around a room with 5 ogryns on my ass

[sage river]

https://tenor.com/view/bed-man-bedman-guilty-gear-guilty-gif-1647391909125401481

[sage river]

Found your team

[sage river]

NNNNNOOOOOO

[oblique forum]

I literally told my friend as well that you can't block them and stop dodging back cause ur dodging in his attack range

[sage river]

https://tenor.com/view/destroy-crush-car-car-crash-crash-crush-gif-26835520

[brisk raft]

Thanks, what about combos involving lights?

[sage river]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-mutant-warhammer-40k-darktide-mutant-gif-1118053842768353546

This is what maelstrom feels like

[somber frost]

how's the 2h sword?

[sage river]

I think its awesome, others seem to think its a little situational/just ok

[remote bluff]

very fun

[sage river]

Its super fun

[somber frost]

is the new map also out? havent seen it, does it look distinct?

[sage river]

Activate mode and cleave through hordes like butter

[light badge]

I love that you can see the smite just not doing anything lol

[waxen fulcrum]

Its good

[remote bluff]

its basically carnival backwards with a twist

[waxen fulcrum]

Definitely prefer it over eviscerator

[remote bluff]

s+ very fun

[sage river]

STOP PLEASE STOP!!1!!11 ahh blitz

[misty nova]

Man
Fuck this GS mastery grind

[waxen fulcrum]

Evisc does seem to have better base damage

[misty nova]

Sacrifice time

[waxen fulcrum]

Vs non powered gs

[sage river]

If your gs isnt powered youre doing something wrong ofc

[full nebula]

feels good skipping to mastery in about 2 minutes

[waxen fulcrum]

I turn it off so i dont overload for like a swing or tw9

[sage river]

Psykers won this update imo

[waxen fulcrum]

Then back to cleaving

[somber frost]

the psyker GS makes me wanna lvl my psyker again

[sage river]

Their greatsword is basically the power sword of psykers

[waxen fulcrum]

Psyker gs is pretty based on a peril edge build

[sage river]

Genuinely makes melee a focus for psyker

Imagine swinging a sword once to delete 60% of a horde

[waxen fulcrum]

Maintain 100 peril with assail and go apeshit with the gs

[sage river]

Thats what the blaze force greatsword is

[brisk raft]

Will it work with my Scryier Gunpsyker build?

[misty mason]

Should do

[sage river]

"HOLD THIS"

[misty mason]

I think the main build Ive seen is crit based

[misty nova]

Yeah
Psykers GS likes crits

[waxen fulcrum]

By the time you hit two bars, you can do the cleave and max out your peril again

And then just keep going

[rocky nacelle]

force shove at 0 peril

doesnt go up

force shove at 100 peril after scriers

blow up

society

[south folio]

society.

[sage river]

https://tenor.com/view/mihawk-slash-gif-21581363

Blaze force greatsword:

[waxen fulcrum]

I do right tree but take barrier instead of scriers

Then take warp rider + whatever the toughness one is

[south folio]

just in case, this is force-shoving w/o hitting an enemy in both cases?
since in the case of the 1h fswords, they only generate peril on force shove on hitting an enemy

[waxen fulcrum]

And youre basically a fighter

[full nebula]

ayo

[waxen fulcrum]

You can push without blowing up, you just cant commit to the push part at 100

[full nebula]

why does the zealots kreig jacket look like someone shat on the bottom of the back?

[waxen fulcrum]

The push is what triggers the suicide

[sage river]

The zealots themselves did

[rocky nacelle]

nope

hit an enemy with both

[light badge]

Cool bug fact if you somehow weren't aware: it only generates peril if you hit something with it

[rocky nacelle]

made sure i was at 0

[full nebula]

someone wiped their ass with this

[sage river]

Oops that was me

mb

[hearty nebula]

nobody needs to know you use your clothes as a shitrag dude

[light badge]

Nevermind I was too slow with the cool bug fact

[upper tiger]

Erm what the spruce

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-saget-angry-rage-shit-everywhere-gif-4846156

[rocky nacelle]

too slow for your cool bug fact

because I parsed the info myself

and deduced it is annoying

[hearty nebula]

is this real

[light badge]

Parse deez

[hearty nebula]

this isn't even a recolor

[rocky nacelle]

hows havoc 5?

[light badge]

Erm

[upper tiger]

They really rereleased a skin under a new name

[light badge]

Havoc 16

[hearty nebula]

its literally the same exact cosmetic with a different name

[upper tiger]

And are selling it

[light badge]

Actually

[rocky nacelle]

cant relate

[light badge]

(and it would be higher IT I COULD STOP GETTING FUCKING CODE 9999)

[full nebula]

Yes the knife skin is exactly the same i have it from the last time it was in

[rocky nacelle]

now we're getting toxic

[light badge]

My clearance level is at 19 but my rank is still 16 grahhhh

Whhyyyy

[misty mason]

Me when I bought the same premium plate legs for zealot, but one in black one in polished steel

[full nebula]

only the name is different, and i have the option to buy it again if i want

[fleet zealot]

non host ranks don't go up right away for some stupid spaghetti reason

[upper tiger]

Fatshark was smoking that nurgle blend

[full nebula]

The laziness is real

[fleet zealot]

non hosts will have their ranks boosted to their highest clearance right on the weekly timer

[light badge]

Wait what?

They go up?

I was under the assumption they just like, didn't

[fleet zealot]

no

they do

just not right away

[light badge]

I restarted the game several times and it never updated past 16

[fleet zealot]

yea

it won't

not till the end of the current havoc week

[misty mason]

Weekly timer breh

[fleet zealot]

4 days 21 hours

right on the screenshot

[light badge]

Oh I'm stupid

Many such cases

[misty mason]

correct

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/now-youre-getting-it-correct-you-understand-thats-it-now-youre-understanding-it-gif-15616163

[brave plover]

I think I'm not getting how this new sword works... I turn it, then I attack but the bar never goes down even with those blessings that say so

What am I doing wrong?

[light badge]

I can't think rn

[obsidian prairie]

It’s resistance, not reduction

[fleet zealot]

good question

[sage river]

Do it fr

[light badge]

I had a really bad anxiety attack earlier that I'm still recovering from

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-bunny-bunny-no-nope-nou-gif-14651222

[brave plover]

The bar that fills is the resistance?

[rocky nacelle]

well hope you're doing better now

but please keep venting in the #vent-channel

thank you

[obsidian prairie]

No, the blessings give resistance

[misty mason]

Play some nice relaxing auric maelstrom to soothe your nerves

[obsidian prairie]

There’s 2 that vent

[light badge]

Real

[sage river]

Its a mode that fills, and resistance just slows down the speed it rises at. The power mode only recharges when its off

[brave plover]

They reduce the Heat, but I can't even feel it goes lower

[fleet zealot]

cause you build up

still

[hearty nebula]

They reduce the rate at which it increases. Not decrease it's total heat value.

[fleet zealot]

you can't not build up

[sage river]

It increases slower

[fleet zealot]

okay so cranial grounding only makes it go up slower

[hearty nebula]

yes

[obsidian prairie]

Also gives weakspot

[hearty nebula]

weakspot is very strong

[fleet zealot]

heatsink gives some negative heat

[misty mason]

Anyone tried the stubber?

[hearty nebula]

negative heat regeneration

[fleet zealot]

yes

[royal vortex]

yeah but ogryn was nerfed into the ground so like... what's the point y'know

[south folio]

caveat about heatsink is that it reduces your heat 1/4th the given rate whenever you're not locked out

[fleet zealot]

basically, you will always eventually overheat

[misty mason]

Was it actually or are you being a drama queen

[light badge]

So true literally a dead class

[south folio]

that is to say, it only reduces 10% heat over 3 seconds whenever you're locked out
otherwise, it's 2.5% heat over 3 seconds

[light badge]

Barely even Havoc 2 viable

[lunar fable]

[hearty nebula]

like

[lunar fable]

must be nice

[royal vortex]

i got my opinions from the darktide subreddit

[hearty nebula]

fr?

[royal vortex]

no

[lunar fable]

not getting locked out by 9999

[royal vortex]

they swapped a couple talents around

[misty mason]

typical josho

[royal vortex]

and people are crying doom

[light badge]

You too?

[misty mason]

[hearty nebula]

i mean ogryns talent tree layout was already dogshit so who cares

💀

[south folio]

josho would know ogryn best since he's an ogryn main

[light badge]

Game hates us fr fr

[royal vortex]

the stubbers are awesome, probably the part of the update i enjoy the most because it brings the most variety to the class it was given to

[misty mason]

Josho main ogryn IRL

[lunar fable]

somebody ended up running the same assignment as me

[royal vortex]

a hitscan weapon u can aim at heads... on ogryn... unprecedented

[lunar fable]

and i didn't get progress

cause apparently only host gets it

even though it's the same mission

...

[hearty nebula]

i think that was like

literally the precedent for heavy stubber. ogryn had no real precise long range weapons

[royal vortex]

achlys heavy stubber with opening salvo/pf just popping gunner heads is quite fun

[light badge]

So, that's the fun part

[misty mason]

I might have to try it

[light badge]

Your rank does increase

[misty mason]

Even though im a gorgboi at heart

[median steeple]

no you are the rank you just only have access to lower ones until you host, next week you will get access to your actaul ranks missions

it's weird

and dumb

[light badge]

Just not for you to be able to host

[median steeple]

but it does go up

[hearty nebula]

that's

[light badge]

Big fish jank

[hearty nebula]

incredibly stupid

[royal vortex]

they all behave somewhere between the headhunters and bolter generally but with like 7 cleave (for all 3 variants)

[median steeple]

Im rank 21 but can only host 16 until next week or I host until I get to 22

[hearty nebula]

i am however glad that they locked it behind auric maelstroms

[misty mason]

hrmm

[hearty nebula]

rare fatshark W (though the new weapons are also pretty cool)

[misty mason]

Sounds gud tho

[royal vortex]

yeah theyre sick

[light badge]

Dude fr

Could you imagine malice maelstroomers strolling into a Havoc 35

[misty mason]

I mean tbh they're actually pretty good with weapons

[hearty nebula]

yes

and i would actually fucking murder someone

[misty mason]

Most new weapons are very good

[light badge]

They would die so fast, it would be so funny

[hearty nebula]

shredder buff when /s

[light badge]

Mfw the bots outperform loads of pubbers

[misty mason]

Some are OP but usually they fit into the good but not meta slot

[light badge]

Shredder buff /srs

[royal vortex]

bots have like functionally infinite stamina and insane durability

[light badge]

Please its so ass

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120299759316520960/1313683789389627392/spider_man_rdm.mp4?ex=675106de&is=674fb55e&hm=dee8a6f5c8c9533bec927fd4f058134e428b7e7b39a4125afcdcd5b08435b46b&

[royal vortex]

theyre almost impossible to kill with melee

[median steeple]

my goats fr

I love bots

[hearty nebula]

real

[royal vortex]

nothing is funnier than trying to start a duo run and the bots take forever to die

[hearty nebula]

but also yeah bots are like actually op

[royal vortex]

simply constructed abnormally

[hearty nebula]

can we get bot stats

thx

[median steeple]

just an incredible dumb but durable decoy

[royal vortex]

the sad part about bot melee is they can't heavy attack

[light badge]

I saw a bot walk into a monster closet today

[royal vortex]

iirc

[hearty nebula]

give me back vt2 ai

[light badge]

And he closed the fucking door behind him

[royal vortex]

theyre stuck with lights

[light badge]

And actually killed a hound

In the fucking spawn room

[median steeple]

giga chad

[royal vortex]

so even though they can get like a combat axe they can't actually use it to kill crushers well despite being incredibly good at dodging overheads

[light badge]

Watching the bots back dodge 4 times away from a barrel is my favorite outdoor activity

[zinc talon]

does the 25% ranged damage talent

stack with the sword wave

or am I confusing psucker sword for zealot sword

[royal vortex]

u have mixed up which class gets what sword

[misty mason]

confusing

Pissword doesnt get the wave

Only Figsword

[lime ingot]

I dont see it in pin... what is dump stat on relic sword?

[misty mason]

Mobility

[remote lark]

idk

[obsidian prairie]

Mobility, like everything else under the sun

[light badge]

@rocky nacelle Im still waiting on that word document sized chunk of info about how the mk8 FGS is the best thing since Dbarrel got added

[rocky nacelle]

I posted all the things I found about it earlier

[remote lark]

[misty mason]

dbarrel stinky

[light badge]

Oh word

[rocky nacelle]

🙄

[light badge]

Respectfully, get barreled

[royal vortex]

my favorite 2h force sword thing is the stupid fucking light wield attack on the 6

i hate it so much

[rocky nacelle]

ye i did

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-it-smells-bad-it-stinks-eww-gif-16170064380484795710

[remote lark]

Nice cat

[royal vortex]

cool frog

[light badge]

Cool sock

[pine osprey]

can you reroll reliquary blessings?

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/viktor-arcane-lol-league-gif-23870438

[remote lark]

No

[pine osprey]

sad, I wanna use my admech box with plus 1 wound

[misty mason]

I really hate the moebian chest plate for psyker and zealot

Triangle ass no stomach covering ass piece of shit

[pine osprey]

the rightious suffering chest do be great

[misty mason]

I want admech class nao pls

[remote lark]

abs...

expoosed.....

neeeeeeeed........

nowww......

pls...

[remote lark]

SILENCE

for I am gooning..

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/definitely-maybe-romance-comedy-ryan-reynolds-oh-ok-gif-3438487

[light badge]

Me when men

[remote lark]

Who said anything about women..

[vague depot]

how does the new melee feel

[misty nova]

Great and Sword

Though I'm hating leveling up from 0 mastery

5 maelstroms lost

😭

[north sedge]

Just throw money at it

[misty nova]

I got the moveset down though

Part of it

[pine steeple]

It's the principle

[north sedge]

No just throw money at it

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/contra-contrapoints-natalie-mouthfeel-girl-dick-gif-12193705

[hearty nebula]

it is big fuckoff sword

[misty nova]

Low tier Heatsink and Cranial sucks

[hearty nebula]

there is no greater romance than the greatsword

[vague depot]

fair enough

[north sedge]

Slash fiction

[vague depot]

classic tknife tdr aura fotf and martyrdom build work for it?

[north sedge]

Yea

[vague depot]

or do you run chorus for havoc

[hearty nebula]

idk i dont run shartyrdom

[vague depot]

damn

[frozen kernel]

We appreciate early-mid 00’s midriff in this household, you shut your gd mouth

[hearty nebula]

can just read top pin tho

[frozen kernel]

All exposed abs are equal

[misty mason]

absolutely not

Give me my realistic cuirass

[frozen kernel]

Someone get me mallet

[hearty nebula]

yes we do

piss off

moron

[misty mason]

Never weeb

[frozen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[hearty nebula]

you're not a true zealot if you can't murder a horde of enemies half naked

[frozen kernel]

Oh it’s negging

Nvm continue

[hearty nebula]

well now it's not fun so

no

[obsidian prairie]

Why do the lights have THIS MUCH FUCKING RANGE

[frozen kernel]

WHAT

[hearty nebula]

:3c

thats why

[misty nova]

Since when single eye glow on the moebian gas mask?

[frozen kernel]

Tbf

[hearty nebula]

though its probably because the viewmodel is very

[frozen kernel]

Two hands

[hearty nebula]

hard to follow properly

[frozen kernel]

Evi has some nutty range too but not that long

[hearty nebula]

im pretty sure most of the 2h weapons in this game have p disjointed hitboxes

[red mesa]

has anyone experimented with cleave blessings in havoc? does it help? i hear the higher levels hit mass works differently

[plain minnow]

The flaming nade isn't very good at killing thing? My purging flame penances isn't moving much.

[hearty nebula]

read 1st pin

[north sedge]

Hit mass is just higher

So cleave good

[red mesa]

well i mean in general not just relic blade

[echo breach]

Fellas what are the good bistol blessings?

[hearty nebula]

it applies to basically everything i'd presume, when it comes to horde clear proficient weapons

[misty nova]

Puncture then something else

Surgical

Run n Gun

Lethal Proximity if funny crusher

[quartz yoke]

f
oof

[marble dagger]

I like surgical because it compensates for me being slow

[hearty nebula]

Nope

They patched that

Crusher + LP no longer does anything

[misty nova]

FUCK

[hearty nebula]

Yeah

still works on grenades

just not crusher

[misty nova]

ahem
Sorry for my outburst

[frozen kernel]

No no

FUCK

[long oasis]

they changed the scab ranger torso to carapace?!?!

[frozen kernel]

It was justified

[misty mason]

look at that practical biz

I mean

[remote lark]

[hearty nebula]

i too like my scifi power armor

[misty mason]

Other than the goofy pauldrons

[vague depot]

thanks

[north sedge]

Yes

[remote lark]

Gunners and shotgunned no longer stun on hit btw

[vague depot]

bet

[remote lark]

We may no longer need twbs if we take judgement for invoc

[misty mason]

I think my stance on it realistically

[remote lark]

2 free points...

[frozen kernel]

Nah I fuck with certain ones. Like I hate space marine pauldrons but the Tau ones go hard

[misty mason]

Is it should be cool and practical

[vague depot]

can i run martyrdom instead of ij on the sword

[misty mason]

Or dont do coward sexy

[remote lark]

yeah

ij is better though

[vague depot]

ok

[remote lark]

it's damage prone... slow eeapon

[north sedge]

Either works

[vague depot]

does marty get any better breakpoints

[remote lark]

no.

[vague depot]

oh so its just overkill

[remote lark]

well

probably some chaff bps

[remote lark]

But nothing meaningful

[vague depot]

alright ij it is thanks

[half ruin]

Is the Purgation Flamer any good? Never used it

[remote lark]

Yes

[vague depot]

goated

bring a tknife to cancel the slow pull out animation

[remote lark]

Flamer is to chaf what bolter is to crushers

It's so good

[misty mason]

tfw weak pullout game

50 minutes to go and I can go home

Full 8 hours of meetings today jfc

[unkempt olive]

i cant get anything but all 80 and 60 finesse lmao

[misty mason]

Plenty of sac fodder then

[unkempt olive]

they need to release or buff things to be better than the dueling sword its just in its own league

[misty nova]

Weak aura

[misty mason]

The problem is probably not so much the DS itself, it's just that zealot has got good synergies with it

Maybe they could tweak it

[unkempt olive]

hmm i guess ya

[misty mason]

Nerf something and buff something else so it isn't just a monster at everything for zealot

I was gonna say otherwise it will upset psykers

But they're all gonna be running FGS anyway probs

I should commit to just calling it figs

[unkempt olive]

moonsword looks awesome

[misty mason]

figs for psykers pigs for zealot

[unkempt olive]

shits meh for us

[frozen kernel]

3 hours 💀

[opaque island]

YOU TAKE THAT BAKC

[unkempt olive]

its good

[misty mason]

It aint no thammer

[unkempt olive]

aint no hammer and aint no ds

[opaque island]

dueling sword still busted

[north sedge]

Nothing should be ds

[opaque island]

ds shouldnt even be ds

:^)

[unkempt olive]

lmao

[misty mason]

ds nutz

[pine osprey]

WAIT, are you playing in THIRD PERSON :0

[vague depot]

should i care about managing heat or do I just overheat and wait it out

[unkempt olive]

one shot everything, i like the varity pigs gives us tho

[misty mason]

I think overheat is slower to cool

But ive only heard that

cant confirm

[frozen kernel]

Melee focused class with crit on demand is strong with melee weapon. More at 8/7c only on the Cartoon Network

[frozen kernel]

Perspectives mod on PC. It’s not practical but it’s really fun to play with in elevators and stuff

[opaque island]

i havent testeed it but it def feels like it

[north sedge]

It's not a huge deal if you overheat but yea it takes longer to cool id you do it

[opaque island]

hold on let me find out for sure

[north sedge]

It does

[pine osprey]

slap on heatsink and overload and spam power mode

[unkempt olive]

bis is rampage/cranial app nothing else matters

[north sedge]

It's better to turn off but it's not end of the world usually if you don't

Overload is terrible

And wrath is good for havocs

[misty mason]

How is thammer in high havoc, I imagine the increased hit mass doesnt affect it much

[vague depot]

ah ok so i should just manually shut it off then

[misty mason]

Since its got so much cleave

[vague depot]

thanks

[opaque island]

I just counted it in the psykhanium i stg they are the same cooldown

if its different its by only like a second at most

[misty mason]

I wonder if the heat reduction still functions when powered down but not in overheat mode?

Probably not, but could skew the results if so

[north sedge]

It isn't

[opaque island]

i double checked man ill do it again after this mission, but if they arent the same, the difference isnt that much

[fleet zealot]

i'm pretty sure heatsink works even if the weapon is "off"

as would energy transfer

[misty mason]

Yeah so maybe thats the difference

[fleet zealot]

i tried play a game without heatsink and it felt my cooldown period if i fucked up was higher

[misty mason]

overheat might have a set cooldown

vs turning off still being affected by heat reduction blessings

[south folio]

yeah, heatsink just works at 25% value whenever you're not locked out (2.5% heat over 3 seconds)

[fleet zealot]

okay

i think heatsink is just really steady

3.3~% constantly

SNOW

[spare talon]

no, the duelling sword needs to be nerfed
it is at a level of power that is unhealthy for the game, and buffing everything else to reach its level of unhealthy power is not a good idea, and would take way more time than you probably think it does

[unkempt olive]

truth

wait does the host in havoc only level up clearance or will i at the end of the week?

[misty mason]

YOu will at the end of the week

[pine osprey]

ALSO can the punch from my bolt pistol counter dogs?

or must it be my sword bash?

[sterile basalt]

Can stagger hound & Poxburster

However, very unreliable against Poxburster (low stagger amount), may blow up in your face still

[vast veldt]

so have we established whats "meta" on the new sword

[ornate bone]

So which one is the better greatsword?

[misty nova]

Preference

[vast veldt]

i was told the mark 10 earlier

never got a solid answer on what blessings are best

[obsidian prairie]

I used it to get the perspective to accurately judge range

[misty mason]

pins breh

[spare talon]

cranial and rampage for damage/heatsink for longer activation

[misty nova]

Cranial
Heatsink
Rampage

[misty mason]

We need more time to fully land on a meta

[spare talon]

tho we now have to consider havoc

if youre doing high tier havoc, its cranial and wrath

[misty nova]

Shout-out to my boy leakage

[spare talon]

hitmass buffs destroying the cleave economy there

[vast veldt]

thanks

[misty nova]

If it wasn't for the fact that Cleaver 6 has no damage
I'd go 88 unstoppable cleave build

[pine osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/zeus-kratos-your-son-has-returned-god-of-war3-god-of-war-gif-25409651

the power sword feels like this to me every time I activate it

[obsidian prairie]

PS is pretty easy not to overheat unless you are under extreme pressure

[remote lark]

I wonder how far Marty rashad gets you

before u can't cleave meme

[obsidian prairie]

and like 2 seconds off is like 10 heat

[misty mason]

How does bromentum work again tho

[ornate bone]

Anyone got some general advice for curios? Running 2 17% toughness and a +3 stam one.

[pine osprey]

just turn it off as soon as it hits red

[misty mason]

Does it just increase cleave?

[gray ice]

Bromentum applies first target value to 4 targets

[pine osprey]

in power mode yeh, its super easy to chop up hoards

[remote lark]

Gunner resist on all 3.
3 toughness curio unless you're using knife, which needs the stam to spam push attacks

[spare talon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1gd8jtl/comment/ltzsncb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[misty mason]

So then hitmass shouldnt matter?

[ornate bone]

Alrighty. Thank you.

[spare talon]

hitmass doesnt matter

if

you can one shot them to the head

[misty mason]

🤓

[misty nova]

Omg Kenji... Hold up

[misty mason]

So then bromentum rashad should be mostly fine thing I would think unless they get so tough you cant 1 tap them

[ornate bone]

The other 2 perks are free choice?

[misty mason]

Is that a character from those fursona games?

[misty nova]

At some point enemies will have tons of health

[remote lark]

3x gunner res, 2x Stam regen, 1x sniper res, 3x toughness

[spare talon]

its scott the woz

[ornate bone]

Thank you.

[remote lark]

@spare talon

How much flat damage does a sniper shot actually do

[spare talon]

bark

[remote lark]

Arf

[fleet zealot]

125 with 10x toughness ADM

[hearty nebula]

woof

[spare talon]

yeah that

[rocky nacelle]

yea im not inviting lumi to strike teams again

[spare talon]

you need 1250 effective toughness for it to not break your toughness

[remote lark]

he said bark

it not my fault

umu

[rocky nacelle]

@sullen forge

[fleet zealot]

+1 sniper resistance just stops one shotting bullshit

[rocky nacelle]

leash this mongrel

[remote lark]

I wonder how much hp damage it does with no tdr and soc

[misty mason]

simply dont get hit

[remote lark]

with the twbs changes I could probably justify fitting soc into some builds..

[misty nova]

Special hunting will be ass

[obsidian prairie]

How to kill caxes with this one simple trick!

[sullen forge]

hi

you need something

[sterile basalt]

About this

[misty nova]

Yeah?

[quaint rose]

whats the scaling on all the relic blade blessings?

[sterile basalt]

I think they’re actually only applied to groaners / poxwalkers / infested Moebian 21st

[remote lark]

Scaling?

[quaint rose]

like how high to the %s go at 4

[fleet zealot]

it's on the tooltips

[sterile basalt]

It doesn’t apply to shooters / stalkers / bruisers

[fleet zealot]

none of them are broken last i checked

[sterile basalt]

Don’t quote me on this

[copper hawk]

i dont wanna play below 21,,

plz,,

dont make me do diz,,

[remote lark]

Didd

[misty nova]

I see

[misty ravine]

Perfect Strike meta at last?!

[sterile basalt]

So Rashad is still king

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/812451078221463632.gif?size=64

[quaint rose]

at 4

[fleet zealot]

it's on gameslantern

[copper hawk]

what about deathblow heavysword,,

[misty nova]

Well anyone with health bar mod could check later I guess

[sullen forge]

People are consistently

shooting bursters now

[copper hawk]

WHY !!!

[sullen forge]

like near you

[ornate bone]

me

[sullen forge]

so just take that as a warning

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[ornate bone]

ME

[quaint rose]

whats the carapace damage on relic?

[copper hawk]

gale r u playin rn

[sullen forge]

Perhaps

[copper hawk]

what havoc lvl r u

5 morbillion i bet..

[ornate bone]

why are you afraid of galeos

[sullen forge]

19

[copper hawk]

FUCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ornate bone]

!

[sullen forge]

and your own Havoc level is locked to your own uh

[copper hawk]

im 21 going to 22

[sullen forge]

amount

[remote lark]

take carapace perk and you one-shot crushers with fotf and sprint attack

[copper hawk]

yah i know it's stupid

[sullen forge]

even if you are doing others

[copper hawk]

do u wanna blay w me

[sullen forge]

its dumb

[quaint rose]

cool

[sullen forge]

stupid chud

[copper hawk]

i dont want 2 do below damnation havoc

[sullen forge]

leveling system

[quaint rose]

dump stat on gsword?

[remote lark]

same as every other melee in the game

:s

mobility/defense

[misty nova]

Mobility

[copper hawk]

damage

[remote lark]

shutup chica

[misty nova]

One day FS will actually make a weapon that can't dump mobility

But not today

[fleet zealot]

defense weapons

[misty nova]

Ayo lmao

[fleet zealot]

cleave targets on some weapon

[remote lark]

Not dumping mobility means you want to run away from the heretics..

you will be burned..

[copper hawk]

nuh uh

U shut up

Shut ur Flippin florpin noodle head ahh up Sneebleglarp

[remote lark]

I will barrel u

[copper hawk]

i wil explode u

w my mind

ker POWE

[remote lark]

I will snipe all 3 of ur havocs next week and make u drank

[copper hawk]

just like my Fav Classe in dis gam ,, the S"myke"r,

[sullen forge]

Dog I keep getting in DOGSHIT teams

[copper hawk]

INVITE ME !!!!

[fleet zealot]

i cleared an auric maels today

[sullen forge]

that and the game is like actively doing everything perfectly to get me killed

[fleet zealot]

then i got tid=rd

[misty nova]

Yo
How's GS DH soloing capacity?

[fleet zealot]

bad

[ornate bone]

Are the 3 passives on the left side mandatory?

[fleet zealot]

i'd imagine

[remote lark]

Me with @merry flume and @rocky nacelle earlier

I ragequit after 1 game

[copper hawk]

lol

l000l

so noob..

[misty nova]

Which passives

[sullen forge]

Mutant holding you in fire

[copper hawk]

imagine rage Quittine ,,, Gleebleglarpum..

[misty nova]

Like Keystone?

[sullen forge]

throwing you into the rager horde

literally doing

[copper hawk]

hehehghgehghhhehehehghgh..

[sullen forge]

everything

to get you killed instantly

[copper hawk]

throw u 2 the Wolves , u come back , ,, DEAD !!

[ornate bone]

Disdain, Enemies Within, and Vicious Offering.

[fleet zealot]

like, gsword is slow, it has good unyielding damage but not that good

[remote lark]

Trappers trickshotting me while falling, enemies pushing me into nets intended for other people, magic flying dogs, etc

7 disables 1 game

[quaint rose]

how do the gsword blessings handle? any clear best-in-slots?

[remote lark]

Read pins.

[copper hawk]

nop

[quaint rose]

ah

[copper hawk]

dont read them

[remote lark]

Shuttup bottom

[copper hawk]

it transmit brainrot directly into ur g0urd

do not !

[misty mason]

I member getting barreled or bursted and a trapper netted me out of the air

[misty nova]

Not really mandatory

[pine osprey]

choose your favorite <3

[fleet zealot]

heatsink rampage-> wrath heatsink in higher havocs

[remote lark]

Wtf?

[misty nova]

Second Wind on the right side is though

[misty mason]

Or maybe it was mutant throw

[remote lark]

Who's telling you to take distain

[ornate bone]

Sweet, thanks.

[fleet zealot]

or was it wrath rampage

since havocs scale into ridic hitmass, wrath is a must tho once you get into auric+/auric++ range

[ornate bone]

I don't know nothing.

[plush estuary]

@tepid dome

[remote lark]

Latest pin has a standard zealot talent setup that will work with most weapons with some tweaking

[sullen forge]

Holy shit

[misty mason]

It's me Auricky

[sullen forge]

people are so fucking dogshit

3rd match in a row

immediate wipe from the start

[remote lark]

I joined into 6 consecutive auric maels earlier where everyone was dead and I replaced a ragequitter

I was fuming

[sullen forge]

PS5 players

Istg

[ornate bone]

What if I want Blazing Piety instead of footsies?

[misty ravine]

Do it

[remote lark]

@copper hawk can u post a stalwart build

I'm at work atm

[fleet zealot]

you can

it has a 1.7 finesse ratio when active (0.7 on basic swings) so it's not like, wasted

[sullen forge]

@remote lark Auric Mael

take a hot guess what I loaded into for my entire time

Level wise

[fleet zealot]

but IJ covers all it's weaknesses and all the crit blessings work on weakspot as well

[grand tangle]

thoughts on these two together?

[fleet zealot]

bad

you never wanna lockout

and the overload is like

a showstopper explosion

[pine osprey]

Thats what im using on heresy mode

[fleet zealot]

cranial+ rampage, heatsinks, wrath is good in later havocs

if you want to reduce heat further just go cranial or energy transfer

[ornate bone]

What about Scourge with a relic blade?

[spare talon]

overload is terrible

[pine osprey]

Im not ready for damnation yet, not until I get the maximum amount of wounds possible

[remote lark]

brand new 30's

[grand tangle]

is energy leak any good? or is <20% strength not enough to matter

[misty ravine]

lmfao what was fatshark thinking

[fleet zealot]

worthless

[misty nova]

Undertale player attack SFX lmao

[fleet zealot]

rampage is just better

[sullen forge]

Check DMs

its worse

[fleet zealot]

rampage is strength not damage, the tooltip is still incorrect

[south folio]

heatsink is also doing less than people think unless you're locking out

[sage river]

Thats a sneeze

[ornate bone]

Fair enough. I would post screenshots of my tweaks, but can't post yet.

[fleet zealot]

i think the most underrated blessing for it is energy transfer

3 second downtime, just do a timed block every 8 seconds

[copper hawk]

Error 9999

Cant leave the strike team

[fleet zealot]

idk if i'd ever take scourge with it

[copper hawk]

Held hostage

[fleet zealot]

i never seem to be able to stack scourge

[copper hawk]

Have 2 unplug ethernet 2 leave

Labor of Love !

[misty ravine]

Fatshark knows crafting isn't a series of RNG gates now right? They don't need to pad the Blessing lists with fodder anymore

[pine osprey]

I think loner is the best, since you always regen toughness

[fleet zealot]

yea they do

[misty mason]

Imagine not running piety

[fleet zealot]

the promised every weapon to have 8 blessings

[remote lark]

No.

[fleet zealot]

i'm not, IJ makes it fluid

[remote lark]

Never speak again.

[fleet zealot]

no

no no no

[copper hawk]

U can bark tho

Woof woof arf heh heh

[misty nova]

Yeah about that....

Lmao

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-bath-gif-5035974

[misty nova]

Insta zealot chat reaction

[misty mason]

Waow and bark gonna kiss

[fleet zealot]

like the only way to make loner somehwater work is to take the one mid apth top tlanet no oen takes

[copper hawk]

It wont let me leave this fucking strike team !!!!!!!

[median steeple]

freak........

[fleet zealot]

the coherency regen one

[ornate bone]

Almost had it set up the exact same way lol.

[misty nova]

Fortitude Fellowship?

[fleet zealot]

yea

the shitty one that competes with purge the unclean

[quaint rose]

so what does the charge actually do in terms of % (or has it not been tested yet)]

[remote lark]

It's a trap. The toughness regen is slower than you think, especially compared to how fast you get toughness back with other talents and just killing.
You also get waaay more toughness value out of the left aura, gives you and your team toughness damage reduction

[fleet zealot]

anyways i chopped up a bon in record time with relic using the charge->single target combo

[misty mason]

Man I'm probably not even going to get to play havoc tonight

[fleet zealot]

+1.0 finesse ratio

i know that for sure

0.7 to 1.7

[remote lark]

Isn't it 1.5 when charges

I thought I saw someone say

[fleet zealot]

lemme double check

it also might be 100 values

[misty ravine]

They could have made them good though, like there is no way anyone thought 30 damage was acceptable. You don't even have to playtest to work that out

[misty mason]

Member when melee insta broke toughness

[remote lark]

Does it knockback?

[fleet zealot]

they are 4fun blessings for the malice casuals

[remote lark]

At least,

[fleet zealot]

idc really

[remote lark]

?

[fleet zealot]

this weapon has some of the most diverse viable options of melee weapons

[spare talon]

during playtesting i wanted that blessing to cause the overhead on your blade to inflict burn stacks with a reasonable cap

until the overheat was gone

[remote lark]

Honestly this is the first time I've seen real blessing variety and playstyle variety in a weapon. You can either build with rampage to swap the weapon on and off strategically, or build for maximum mode uptime with cranial and heatsink

I think that's pretty cool

[spare talon]

but that idea fell through

[remote lark]

Half of the blessings are usable

[misty nova]

That's a hilarious sentence

[misty ravine]

To damn with faint praise

[misty nova]

At least I think so

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-slap-kat-slap-slap-cat-cate-gif-7906458944533086715

bad

no

[remote lark]

Arf

https://tenor.com/view/discord-blocked-meme-gif-24191901

[copper hawk]

Wtff..

[rocky nacelle]

no being freaky like the maincord users

wags finger at you

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/jermichael-no-urn-spray-bottle-spray-gif-13258723

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-asleep-falling-asleep-sleepy-doze-off-dozing-off-gif-10742301

[fleet zealot]

if i could design a blessing, it would be inverse mode

[rocky nacelle]

: >

[misty mason]

Commit sudoku mode

[fleet zealot]

where you need to overcharge it, and it gives an empowered charge state while overheated

so you have a limited burst window

[copper hawk]

That's my rank naow,,

[rocky nacelle]

it looks like you are going to surpass me gloopling

[misty mason]

So

[rocky nacelle]

because my ass can not focus i am so fucking tired

(ive been up since 3 am)

[misty mason]

Like the force sword

[rocky nacelle]

me mid horde event

https://tenor.com/view/fall-asleep-falling-asleep-sleepy-doze-off-dozing-off-gif-10742301

[fleet zealot]

yea kinda but instead of a giant slash projectile you are just in giga buff mode for a bit

also i'm sorry but i think psyker won

[copper hawk]

NO ERROR 9999 !!! LETZ GOE !!

[remote lark]

Para when I bark:
🔪

Para when cica barks:
❤️

[fleet zealot]

their sword is a lot cooler

[remote lark]

Many such cases..

[fleet zealot]

when i bark (I don't, i'm a ferret)

like i can jsut freely stack up the entire scrier's buff

[misty nova]

Funny noise psyker sword

[fleet zealot]

without worrying about even getting above 75% peril

fatshark

please

[rocky nacelle]

didnt see him bark

if that happened

get owned i guess

[fleet zealot]

[rocky nacelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[remote lark]

@rocky nacelle

[frozen kernel]

Oh so like exorcist FS

[ornate bone]

Now you guys got me theorycrafting and tweaking these screenshots.

[remote lark]

show ur work

[fleet zealot]

kinda yea

[frozen kernel]

I haven’t seen much of the force GS so far, a lot of stuff has been power GS

[fleet zealot]

except now crack the bone does that for you

[frozen kernel]

You like it?

[ornate bone]

Can't post screenshots yet.

[remote lark]

Grrr

[frozen kernel]

I think I may have to swap from surge to flamestaff for force GS

[fleet zealot]

i'm trying a cheesy uhh

murderous tranq+crack the bone

scrier's

[frozen kernel]

How does it handle Cara and such?

[fleet zealot]

handles cara better than relic sword

worse at unyielding tho

[remote lark]

Iirc it just kills everything

[fleet zealot]

like, really surprising low unyielding damage on force greatsword

[opaque island]

in the powered up mode with a good attack speed buff (from Marty, or Momentum) you become a godamn lawnmower

[rocky nacelle]

i dont know about that 1

I was hitting pretty good damage off thrust attacks on FGS

[visual stream]

All of the new mission mods are power out

[frozen kernel]

Oh gosh oh crap who ever is gonna kill the reaper? [plasmavet/bolter zealot mouth breathing over my shoulder]

[ornate bone]

Sent a DM.

[remote lark]

Yall wanna know the secret to killing bulwarks with 0 effort ?

Run away and let it be ur teams problem

Hehe

[ornate bone]

That's no fun. You don't get to kill it that way.

[misty mason]

Me when crusher and team mate with DS

I fucken love killing bulwarks

Charge hammer, get them to swing, side step BABABOOEY

[fleet zealot]

yea i'm just going to use uhh, vraks iag

gunker build totally (i'll be in sword 24/7

[frozen kernel]

The bait swing punish always feels so good with thammer

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/nap-yakuza-yakuza4-nappy-nappy-time-gif-19953677

[frozen kernel]

“PRAnKT IDIOT”

VWBOOOSH

[pine osprey]

I just back stab them with the relic blade and they die

[fleet zealot]

but yea, tier 2 greatforce literally

cleans the entire field

wtf

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/sit-the-f-down-hugo-stags-sit-down-now-take-a-seat-gif-1424272360805757146

[obsidian prairie]

Warpshock wave looks so silly

But I am so broke

[hallow summit]

so has the council decided what blessings are best on relic yet?

[obsidian prairie]

Took my entire dockets savings to get my PGS

[rocky nacelle]

I used shockwave to 1 shot like 3 maulers

[obsidian prairie]

Pins

[rocky nacelle]

on FGS

[obsidian prairie]

Now

[rocky nacelle]

lmao

[misty mason]

Pigs n Figs

[hallow summit]

thanky

[misty mason]

The dodge and crit blessings on a crit build for Figs

[lunar fable]

is fgs alone a big enough reason for me to start playing my lv35 soyker @rocky nacelle

[rocky nacelle]

yes

double barrel and fgs

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-366884463840825135

[fleet zealot]

yea apparently heatsink isn't giving full value rn

[misty mason]

Dbarrel?

[lunar fable]

db gaming

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/stinky-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-it-smells-bad-it-stinks-eww-gif-16170064380484795710

[rocky nacelle]

werent you that weird guy bitching about us talking about manga

weird

lot of dumb fucks in the dt server

[misty mason]

I complained about some weird fucken dudes talking manga spoilers in here yes, cause I'm not deranged

[rocky nacelle]

anyways blab use this if you want or tweak it to how you want

[copper hawk]

I FUCKING HATE GUNNERS !!!

[rocky nacelle]

deep breathz gloopling....

https://tenor.com/view/back-at-it-again-at-krispy-kreme-krispy-kreme-fail-vine-gif-16299260

[lunar fable]

holy unstable power

the edge blessing

[rocky nacelle]

even better

unstable power + warp rider + warp unbound

if you have a fully charged FGS special

[opaque island]

oh god i see it

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gif-949319236308169219

[misty mason]

Simply kill the gunners

[lunar fable]

yea i thought psyker had something with peril

haven't played my psyker for a very very long time now

[quaint rose]

imma be honest

all the new weapons feel kinda flimsy

[lunar fable]

@rocky nacelle

blarp and companions

[rocky nacelle]

blarp and friends

(I hope he has the beloved voice)

[lunar fable]

he does

[rocky nacelle]

yeah thats perfect

blarp and friends

[misty mason]

how is this the middle of summer at 6pm

[sturdy owl]

How's the new weapons

[vapid sun]

fun, but slow

[copper hawk]

the new force sword is awesome

the relic blade sucks

[lunar fable]

@rocky nacelle this db damage is disgusting

wtf

[copper hawk]

u will be disappointed,,

[rocky nacelle]

yes

casually 1 shot maulers

lmfao

[pine steeple]

but guard frames on activation waow

[copper hawk]

sucks actually

it's a nice touch until your guard is instantly broken by the ragers you're attempting to kill

[pine steeple]

That too

[copper hawk]

then u get a train ran on u due to no toughness break damage reduction in havoc

[gray ice]

git rolled

[copper hawk]

i was stuck in gloriana running in a fucking circle around the console

because the weapon is so fucking slow and the dodges are so ass you can barely kill enough to offset how many enemies spawn

i couldn't rez the whole team and we died

oh, and there was a firendly burgle there too

every time i got him to low hp he'd puke on the minions and vore them

and he'd be back to full

[lunar fable]

mmm

[mighty root]

My entire team got disconnected now I can’t play havoc