Just get a mobility/defense dump 10head.
#zealot-class
grizzled aspen
fleet zealot
i'm patching my tide
grizzled aspen
I think flak elites but I need to do more bp testing to know for sure.
rigid lagoon
big fan of the burial blade, but i'd have to get it from the chalice dungeons cause ng+ isn't any fun
fleet zealot
bucketheads or something?
grizzled aspen
Because not only do you want to hit that crusher 1tap, you want the sword to function without charge.
grizzled aspen
bucketheads or something?
That's what I fear.
fleet zealot
Because not only do you want to hit that crusher 1tap, you want the sword to fun...
no i don't
i'm going energy leakage and heatsink
grizzled aspen
I'm gonna play around with it more this afternoon to know what perks specifically.
burnt folio
"Nuh uh"
fleet zealot
i want to maximize time spent in in charge
flat iris
are there any good zealot builds w the ability that gives golden toughness?
fleet zealot
are there any good zealot builds w the ability that gives golden toughness?
yes, and no
flat iris
yes, and no
burnt folio
yes, and no
Yesn't if you will
flat iris
so they have builds but they’re ass?
fleet zealot
there is a lot of good zealot builds, I don't know a single one that is better with chorus
flat iris
💀
regal sorrel
What the option on the big sword?
Was thinking of giving it a spin
burnt folio
there is a lot of good zealot builds, I don't know a single one that is better w...
But I like meh pulsin kark off button
grizzled aspen
Mk2 gooder.
fleet zealot
it's not like voc which is instant with good pathing above it, it's a long channel with bad pathing
fleet zealot
yep
grizzled aspen
Stan don't you dare say hi to me.
burnt folio
Which is super fucking cringe.
This i agree with
placid fiber
Stan don't you dare say hi to me.
Hi frogulous
burnt folio
Obese shark, please just give me my extra point
grizzled aspen
Hi frogulous
I'm going to flay you.
hushed knoll
Mk2 gooder.
Hey Foragu-kassuto chan when are we playing together
trail mantle
if you want to use it, use it tho, don't expect it to be as impactful as you'd think it is tho
grizzled aspen
Hey Foragu-kassuto chan when are we playing together
If I ever have the displeasure of seeing you mid match, I'm going to let a dog eat your face.
burnt folio
I'm going to flay you.
remnant 1 flashbacks
frosty herald
COMMODORE UPDATED
placid fiber
If I ever have the displeasure of seeing you mid match, I'm going to let a dog e...
Don't threaten stan with a good time
trail mantle
ain't got no finesse
placid fiber
Your finesse is too high, try again
tiny gazelle
why tf an i watching this psyker with the force greatsword spamming smite with venting shriek 😭 🙏
swing your sword monkey
placid fiber
why tf an i watching this psyker with the force greatsword spamming smite with v...
for the lulz
grizzled aspen
why tf an i watching this psyker with the force greatsword spamming smite with v...
Hes scared because he doesn't know how to melee.
burnt folio
swing your sword monkey
Counter point, Palpatine hands go brrrrt
fleet zealot
NO CHANGES TO SHREDDER AUTOPISTOL
placid fiber
NO CHANGES TO SHREDDER AUTOPISTOL
Come on, bandit... both you and me knew it was never going to happen...
trail mantle
did it get that gutted when it got nerfed
grizzled aspen
Yes.
placid fiber
Yep, even more so when they buffed enemy hp
grizzled aspen
It takes more than a full mag at point blank to kill a dreg gunner.
trail mantle
fleet zealot
they made scab ragers chest carapace
burnt folio
Can someone explain what the purpose is of primary fire on flammenwerfer is
fleet zealot
but because of hit reg
placid fiber
It takes more than a full mag at point blank to kill a dreg gunner.
At 0% damage lol
fleet zealot
that doesn't affect anything but bleed
trail mantle
to werf a little flammen
fleet zealot
Can someone explain what the purpose is of primary fire on flammenwerfer is
stagger and being a bait
trail mantle
mainly bait
grizzled aspen
At 0% damage lol
Unironically, Tintin has said that damage can be safely dumped because the difference is only a few bullets.
fleet zealot
it has good stagger, but most of the time you want to be in braced mode
trail mantle
same with the blaze staff
burnt folio
Bait?
misty nova
Don't
lunar fable
i'm gonna do it
misty nova
You have to sharpen it
placid fiber
Unironically, Tintin has said that damage can be safely dumped because the diffe...
even tho that affects infested and unarmored damage %?
misty nova
It's blunt
grizzled aspen
even tho that affects infested and unarmored damage %?
Yes.
lunar fable
i love blunt blades
placid fiber
Uhuh lol
frosty herald
@rocky nacelle howdo you oneshot the maulers?
fleet zealot
it's there to bait players into playing worse
frosty herald
on the force sword
burnt folio
yea, like you have fan the flames blessing, which is mostly worthless
Oh :(
frosty herald
stagger and being a bait
stagger
modern lintel
that last part had me chaped af wth was that @rocky nacelle
frosty herald
it has amazing utility
rocky nacelle
<@139852743358545920> howdo you oneshot the maulers?
unstable peril + warp rider + 100% warp
I had a max charged special
shot it and 1 shotted 3 maulers
frosty herald
you can push anything except maulers bosses crushers and mutants
rocky nacelle
lmfao
rocky nacelle
you can push anything except maulers bosses crushers and mutants
with what
hushed knoll
If I ever have the displeasure of seeing you mid match, I'm going to let a dog e...
Wtf why
flat iris
wait are we melee only zealots cooked cos of all these ranged enemy changes 😭
frosty herald
flamer primary
trail mantle
well, for one you should almost never be melee only
rocky nacelle
flamer primary
ah gotcha
frosty herald
unstable peril + warp rider + 100% warp
send your build in dms
modern lintel
also i think iv finally cracked the zeal psword and its peak
rocky nacelle
also i think iv finally cracked the zeal psword and its peak
you were catching up there
frosty herald
i dont have the points for warp rider so i wanna see how you specced it
rocky nacelle
also I couldnt stop to shove mid swing
and i got burstered
noob moment
L2 got me blown up
modern lintel
you have to play the shit like its chiv and be doing back swings and shit
rocky nacelle
is it not peak?
modern lintel
truly
burnt folio
I hate how long it takes to flop the flamer out
I get it but oof
rocky nacelle
honestly i do learn things fast
but man
I think I got a decent hang of the FSword already
grizzled aspen
you have to play the shit like its chiv and be doing back swings and shit
DRAG, BOY
grizzled aspen
FLICK THE SHIT OUTTA YOUR CAMERA LIKE YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT
misty nova
wait are we melee only zealots cooked cos of all these ranged enemy changes 😭
Seems like TWBS isn't mandatory anymore
That's 2 talent points for free
modern lintel
at least the mk6
the alt warp attk on it so peak to for saves
rocky nacelle
the alt warp attk on it so peak to for saves
a psyker actually using their kit smart............
makes the game a whole lot different
elfin steppe
Dayum
fleet zealot
Seems like TWBS isn't mandatory anymore
That's 2 talent points for free
i'm still going to take it for melee stun on some weapons
rocky nacelle
fully charged special, with warp rider + unstable peril + 100% peril
even better
it will shit on mixed horde
wary finch
Ye
modern lintel
fr anything outside of crusher is toast when its fully charged
rocky nacelle
man
15 DD stacks and I can basically 1 shot crushers
with the thrust poke
LOL
shit does consistent 3K-3K+ dmg
ember yew
misty nova
i'm still going to take it for melee stun on some weapons
Understandable
rocky nacelle
also I thought warp speed wasnt gonna feel too crazy on FGS
I was wrong
still feels good
misty ravine
Shredder Autopistol will continue to suffer for past sins
fleet zealot
mainly anything with chain in it's name or thrust in it's blessings
modern lintel
im convert now im zeal maining now untill vet gets big gun
wary finch
im convert now im zeal maining now untill vet gets big gun
Vet melta gun when?
placid fiber
I want to see what it does
modern lintel
but its ogryn
its nice but the one that does the dmg only 20rds in mag and it goes by super fast for how slow it fires
trail mantle
Vet melta gun when?
I just want the weapon that is literally in thier skill tree art
placid fiber
but its ogryn
Yeah... oggy is a bit too tanky...
rocky nacelle
its nice but the one that does the dmg only 20rds in mag and it goes by super fa...
damn
opal star
update today
trail mantle
the shootman tree for vet the art has the guy holding some sort of belt fed heavier machine gun
opal star
modern lintel
I just want the weapon that is literally in thier skill tree art
this so true real and peak
modern lintel
did the krieg shit just drop as i got off
rocky nacelle
yes
rocky nacelle
misty ravine
the shootman tree for vet the art has the guy holding some sort of belt fed heav...
Veteran Heavy Stubber (more accurate and inexplicably stronger than Ogryn's for some reason)
I can see it now! The images are forming in my brain!
modern lintel
any cool weapons skins or mid
placid fiber
ironically this is the only one of those I am kind of interested in
lunar fable
peak...
placid fiber
modern lintel
those flamer and las pistol skins are ancient
rocky nacelle
so is the knife
modern lintel
my beloved
shy hull
I can't tell what the relic blade is supposed to be good against
livid siren
how long is your sword
placid fiber
I can't tell what the relic blade is supposed to be good against
Yes
rocky nacelle
my beloved
modern lintel
I can't tell what the relic blade is supposed to be good against
everything
shy hull
everything
More like nothign tbh
modern lintel
fuck helbore all my homies hate helbore
fleet zealot
I can't tell what the relic blade is supposed to be good against
looks like a middle ground weapon
good at everything while charged
placid fiber
everything
Yep lol, that's why I said "Yes"
shy hull
idk man, I feel like i can do everything this weapon does with a crusher without the charge meter to deal with
fleet zealot
rocky nacelle
idk man, I feel like i can do everything this weapon does with a crusher without...
they just dropped
rocky nacelle
if you feel like you know everything about the weapon upon it being out for a total of 2 hours
then we cant help you
fleet zealot
placid fiber
"Local grizzly bear held captive in basket."
placid fiber
"Twin potatos attack hammock"
flat iris
Thy Wrath Be Swift
oh whys that? doesn’t that only affect melee hits?
fleet zealot
i'm still updating and my disk speed is bottlenecking my internet
fleet zealot
oh whys that? doesn’t that only affect melee hits?
no it affected range hits
this whole time
livid siren
I don't actually know what he means, I haven't played in weeks!
misty ravine
oh whys that? doesn’t that only affect melee hits?
Affects ranged too and Fatshark has a lengthy dev cycle to update tooltips
placid fiber
i'm still updating and my disk speed is bottlenecking my internet
I finished the update ages ago... and even did the 11gb division 2 update as well lol
fleet zealot
but now gunners and reapers don't cc so it's less impressive
flat iris
WHAAAT
trail mantle
do reapers not cc as well?
flat iris
i had no clue tf
trail mantle
i thought just gunners
grizzled aspen
Reapers and shotgunners still hitstun!
trail mantle
good
flat iris
so that’s one free talent point
grizzled aspen
They dont do pushback, but they do hitstun.
livid siren
Reapers and shotgunners still hitstun!
trail mantle
I FUCKING LOVE GETTING GUNNED DOWN BY REAPERS
livid siren
just use ghost lmao
rocky nacelle
@modern lintel what we thinkin about this
flat iris
is the defence reduction parallel to Thy wrath be swift still good?
misty ravine
TWBS is still very nice to have, especially with chain/power/generally slow weapons
rocky nacelle
I actually kinda really like it
grizzled aspen
Oh and gunners walk while they shoot now.
rocky nacelle
the blue on the coat is very nice
trail mantle
walk while they move?
modern lintel
ima be real i think orginal krieg better
frosty herald
Damn
grizzled aspen
walk while they move?
I did not sleep leave me alone.
trail mantle
I figured that's what you ment lol
livid siren
I don't like the blue.. they look like Danes
flat iris
TWBS is still very nice to have, especially with chain/power/generally slow weap...
that’s usually my type of weaponry so i should still stick w it ay
frosty herald
Those auric maels with para didnt count
livid siren
sir that's baby blue
placid fiber
mighty root
Since twbs isn’t needed we can get good balance
rocky nacelle
modern lintel
i feel like if they were a bit more diff then the original krieg besides helmet changes theyd go good
rocky nacelle
the wrapped arm..............
flat iris
Since twbs isn’t needed we can get good balance
what’s good balance do?
mighty root
what’s good balance do?
Damage reduction on dodge
placid fiber
ITS SILO CLUSTER
rocky nacelle
i feel like if they were a bit more diff then the original krieg besides helmet ...
fair enough
livid siren
peak
placid fiber
"Look at that Vet" -local rando
flat iris
OH good balance is the one that lasts for like 2 secs?
modern lintel
ogryn backpack looks cool but i already have like 2 ogryns back packs i dont ever use
fleet zealot
light badge
director is fucking nuts this patch
all this was before the first fucking medicae
fleet zealot
hang in there
livid siren
you should spend $10 on a new backpack anyways
fleet zealot
director is fucking nuts this patch
all this was before the first fucking medica...
get dunked on
modern lintel
director is fucking nuts this patch
all this was before the first fucking medica...
bros killing it w the 700 dmg
misty ravine
director is fucking nuts this patch
all this was before the first fucking medica...
That's just normal Silo Cluster
placid fiber
"Wasp nest hangs off of a coat hanger, local villagers are in shambles"
light badge
your team didn't deserve a carry anyways
they literally all latejoined
in tox bomber smoke
and then died
ornate bone
Still getting hit by enemies from the back with no sound cue
placid fiber
director is fucking nuts this patch
all this was before the first fucking medica...
tfw your damage taken is over 1/4th of your damage dealt
ornate bone
This tide sure is dark
placid fiber
wow what a beautiful sting ray, wearing a coral reef costume
ornate bone
bee yourself
pale spindle
fleet zealot
placid fiber
Ah, nice, 3 ferrets
fleet zealot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfHznhiztXs
wholesome
modern lintel
is this real
placid fiber
is this real
Probably... lol
frosty herald
Can we permanently delete the utter dogshit that is silo cluster
placid fiber
Can we permanently delete the utter dogshit that is silo cluster
Not until you main ogryn
light badge
Can we permanently delete the utter dogshit that is silo cluster
dude seriously
5 snipers, 2 tox bombers, along with a horde
first minute of the fucking map
fleet zealot
did they unbug silo cluster
light badge
not to mention the littany of gunners and ragers
frosty herald
Its always been dogshit
light badge
sure feels like it lol
rocky nacelle
yall just cant handle aids
frosty herald
And i need to do it for auric maelstrom
fleet zealot
yea but silo cluster was dogshit in both ways
placid fiber
Why is that albatross near a sour patch kid?
fleet zealot
it bugged frequently
frosty herald
Atleast normal board isnt silo cluster
placid fiber
yall just cant handle aids
They clearly haven't played with the randos I have...
I am being serious when I say calling them trash is an insult to trash, since trash is more useful than the randos I've played with were lol
trail mantle
yall just cant handle aids
the one nurgle worshiper at the slaanesh party
tiny gazelle
Can we permanently delete the utter dogshit that is silo cluster
hate this map 💔
trail mantle
wait the new sword has an attack speed blessing
placid fiber
the one nurgle worshiper at the slaanesh party
"Bon bon, that's not a donut!"
trail mantle
lean lark
Can we permanently delete the utter dogshit that is silo cluster
get good
misty nova
wait the new sword has an attack speed blessing
10 is a bit low for my taste
For a blessing that is
tiny gazelle
I love Silo Cluster
the beginning stairway can get kinda stupid but it lowkey only gets better from there
misty nova
A 3 second blessing that can only proc every 8 secs
light badge
actual fucking hell
dark magnet
what blessings for relic blade? energy leakage and wrath look nice
grizzled aspen
I am using cranial heatsink.
grizzled aspen
Wrath is mandatory for havok because hitmass is super beefed in there.
Like you NEED cleave there, desperately so.
fleet zealot
it has rampage
grizzled aspen
It has rampage.
dark magnet
ill try out that combo then havent even got in a game yet lol
fleet zealot
but charge state is extremely important
dark magnet
thanks
rocky nacelle
then that should be fine no? rampage gives cleave/dmg
dark zealot
the new swords sound spicy? whats the thoughts so far on them?
fleet zealot
Wrath is mandatory for havok because hitmass is super beefed in there.
like even rampage 36% cleave isn't enough? 😿
grizzled aspen
But you can't really take advantage of anything that requires multiple targets hit in one swing.
fleet zealot
then that should be fine no? rampage gives cleave/dmg
no on havoc
enemies are mega beefed up
fleet zealot
i can actaully see wrath being used
grizzled aspen
like even rampage 36% cleave isn't enough? 😿
One (1) scab bruiser has like almost 12 hitmass in havok.
fleet zealot
200%>>>>36%
grizzled aspen
For reference, a damnation scab rager has somewhere between 10 and 11.
delicate shadow
rampage is pointless if you're not able to consistently cleave 3 enemies to begin with
fleet zealot
and i'm trying to form a hypothetical answer
grizzled aspen
Path had the exact numbers but I can't remember them.
delicate shadow
well not pointless but obvs you gotta get some extra cleave to get it rolling to start with
fleet zealot
can you go rampage wrath
or is it overkill
also like, i'd hate the heat management then
rocky nacelle
i dont think its overkill if its havoc
grizzled aspen
also like, i'd hate the heat management then
That's the kicker.
fleet zealot
i dont think its overkill if its havoc
im still asking
grizzled aspen
Need, NEED heat management.
grizzled aspen
leakage syphon into wrath syphon
Siphon is toughness, you do not need that.
rocky nacelle
>im still asking
this doesnt change my statement
lmfao
i think that would be a decent setup for havoc
1 of them
lean lark
Siphon is toughness, you do not need that.
he doesnt know
grizzled aspen
If you look at your weapon and think "man I need a toughness blessing" you probably don't need to be using that weapon.
solar marten
whats the difference between the two relic sword marks
fleet zealot
i think mkx looks simpler
grizzled aspen
whats the difference between the two relic sword marks
Backwards movesets. Mk2 has a sweep PA, Mk10 has a stab.
fleet zealot
the other one is, very different attacks
placid fiber
whats the difference between the two relic sword marks
one has more sweeping attacks, one has less
lean lark
If you look at your weapon and think "man I need a toughness blessing" you proba...
he actually doesnt know
misty ravine
he actually doesnt know
grizzled aspen
he actually doesnt know
Yknow, every time I've ever spoken to you, you've been an insufferable asshat. Ever tried not doing that?
fleet zealot
if the havoc meta is toughness blessing+ wrath
misty ravine
||I just woke up I don't know either||
fleet zealot
i'm fucking killing myself
grizzled aspen
if the havoc meta is toughness blessing+ wrath
I doubt it is.
light badge
man
placid fiber
lean lark
Yknow, every time I've ever spoken to you, you've been an insufferable asshat. E...
:( thats so sad
light badge
why did I EVER think to play pub gloriana and expect anything else
solar marten
gang is having 80 max on every stat then a 60 on one common
grizzled aspen
Since U&L, yes.
placid fiber
gang is having 80 max on every stat then a 60 on one common
That blessing looks like ass
solar marten
oh ok
misty ravine
gang is having 80 max on every stat then a 60 on one common
Yes, in fact it is encouraged on nearly all weapons
grizzled aspen
That blessing looks like ass
It's actually not, if you know the gimmick of using your charge.
solar marten
yeah i can change it later tho no?
dark zealot
That blessing looks like ass
wtf is that
grizzled aspen
When you activate/deactivate your sword, you get block frames.
placid fiber
It's actually not, if you know the gimmick of using your charge.
Timing a charge use as an enemy is hitting you to block it?
grizzled aspen
So you can proc it off of that.
dark zealot
When you activate/deactivate your sword, you get block frames.
so you get 3s of 8% more attack speed
placid fiber
So you can proc it off of that.
Yeah, I kind of figured that out lol
solar marten
is changing things about weapons still stuck at 2 changes
i havent played in a long time
placid fiber
I heard it has block frames :3
dark zealot
is changing things about weapons still stuck at 2 changes
you can rebless/perk as much as you want
no locks
solar marten
shii that goes hard
misty nova
No locks
placid fiber
is changing things about weapons still stuck at 2 changes
You can change the mk, blessings, and perks any time you want to
solar marten
is this stat distruibution good tho imma just upgrade this guy
fleet zealot
It's actually not, if you know the gimmick of using your charge.
no the attack speed isn't good
fleet zealot
too much downtime imo
the charge reduction one is better for sure
more uptime, more impactful
solar marten
is mobility weapon swing speed or running speed with weapon
fleet zealot
is this stat distruibution good tho imma just upgrade this guy
yes you want to dump mobility
solar marten
oh shi les go
fleet zealot
is mobility weapon swing speed or running speed with weapon
running speed and dodge distance
80->60 is not a significant drop for most weapons
fleet zealot
forboden name
solar marten
imma get the Sigismund experience
placid fiber
forboden name
I can pretty much agree with this as I have met no good tanners in my lifetime
dark zealot
movement best stat 80 is imporant for running it down mid and dying
flat iris
does anyone know the crit value of the relic swords 😭🙏
misty ravine
I can pretty much agree with this as I have met no good tanners in my lifetime
Karl Tanner was a fuckin legend though
placid fiber
does anyone know the crit value of the relic swords 😭🙏
Greather than 0, less than 101
fleet zealot
does anyone know the crit value of the relic swords 😭🙏
it's not high, not low either iirc, but it's needed for blessings
grizzled aspen
no the attack speed isn't good
Wait I didn't see that it had an activation delay stipulation, that shit is ass.
placid fiber
Karl Tanner was a fuckin legend though
I have no clue who that is
fleet zealot
Wait I didn't see that it had an activation delay stipulation, that shit is ass.
yes 3/8 seconds is so bad, it should at least be 5 like the other perfect block
grizzled aspen
I will say, btw, that piety is the best keystone for relic blade.
dark zealot
piety?
grizzled aspen
IJ is only nice if you play like shit and can't dodge.
flat iris
it's not high, not low either iirc, but it's needed for blessings
oh are the blessing crit activated?
dark zealot
You take piety and abuse crit cdr.
sooo like most other zealot weapons nice
grizzled aspen
Yarp.
fleet zealot
there is the crit/weakspot power
misty ravine
I have no clue who that is
Random original character from the Game of Thrones TV show when it was already firmly on the down slope
grizzled aspen
Comes with the territory of being slow.
placid fiber
That's not all that bad
fleet zealot
i'm guessing the first ratio is for overhead and stabs
and the 2nd ratio is for sweeps
placid fiber
Random original character from the Game of Thrones TV show when it was already f...
Ah, I never made it past season 2 lol
grizzled aspen
But also if you crit headshot you'll be doing a LOT more damage, especially so with duellist.
misty ravine
Ah, I never made it past season 2 lol
Good decision
placid fiber
Good decision
I already knew it wasn't for my wife, and I had no strong opinions about it either way
grizzled aspen
and the 2nd ratio is for sweeps
Charged and uncharged.
flat iris
why is there two critical/weakspot power stats?
dark zealot
so one of the new sword types is like the psyker system where you dont want to generate too much heat and lose access to the higher dmg
flat iris
yeah i just saw bhahaha
dark zealot
the other you generate a resource to do a range cleave attack?
flat iris
charged max finesse does insane dmg then
grizzled aspen
the other you generate a resource to do a range cleave attack?
The weapons with a ranged cleave are the psyker greatswords.
solar marten
the relic sword is actually ballin
grizzled aspen
We have a heat system, they have a vampire system that boosts their special cleave.
Basically, when you kill enemies with a fgs, you siphon their life, and this boosts the damage of your special cleave.
nimble fiber
dark zealot
Basically, when you kill enemies with a fgs, you siphon their life, and this boo...
their sword sounds so much cooler
flat iris
i just want the relic sword to be useable at a higher lvl so i can complete my ultimate emperor fanboy build
grizzled aspen
Killing elites and specialists grants more charge and charge dissipates the longer you go without killing enemies.
grizzled aspen
their sword sounds so much cooler
It is so, so much cooler.
But hey, we have a power sword now.
And its better than vets!
:)
placid fiber
Killing elites and specialists grants more charge and charge dissipates the long...
Man I hate it when my charge gets smol...
misty ravine
Killing elites and specialists grants more charge and charge dissipates the long...
Sounds downright Khornate. Zealot should have that
grizzled aspen
(We can 1tap crushers, they can't)
dark zealot
we have edging a heat meter, they get rewarded for just playing the game with more dmg
misty ravine
we have edging a heat meter, they get rewarded for just playing the game with mo...
Most psykers are already edging a heat meter tbf
shrewd imp
hey any one willing to help with just a flesh wound penance?
grizzled aspen
Psykers have to be very careful because
A) they are not built for melee
B) their swords power is determined based off of their skill
C) most psykers are dogshit in melee
patent elk
so far this blessing combo feels good for specials over rampage and wrath.\
grizzled aspen
We just go "oh yeah my sword can be cooler for like 30 seconds" and we cut everything in half.
grizzled aspen
so far this blessing combo feels good for specials over rampage and wrath.\
Outside of havok, I believe this is BIS.
placid fiber
Psykers have to be very careful because
A) they are not built for melee
B) their...
Yeah when I can play psyker better than most randos I see when psyker is my least played class... you know it's sad
dark zealot
Most psykers are already edging a heat meter tbf
yeah thats true, they couldnt have our sword cause then theyd have to manage two heat meters
rocky nacelle
(We can 1tap crushers, they can't)
If you’re talking relative to the force sword
flat iris
does relic sword compete w dueling sword?
rocky nacelle
You may wanna sit down when you hear this
(with my current setup I’ve almost 1 shotted a crusher with a thrust poke for 3k+)
force sword is ridiculous
dark zealot
Psykers have to be very careful because
A) they are not built for melee
B) their...
C) lol
patent elk
Outside of havok, I believe this is BIS.
i tried rampage and wrath they just feel meh what do u think?
dark zealot
so veterans got no weapons this update?
patent elk
with fury of the faithfull it feels like im jousting with the relic sword
misty nova
does relic sword compete w dueling sword?
Different styles
grizzled aspen
(with my current setup I’ve almost 1 shotted a crusher with a thrust poke for 3k...
What the shit...
hollow moth
The sword charge fucks
frozen crystal
(with my current setup I’ve almost 1 shotted a crusher with a thrust poke for 3k...
And how much prep/buffs is it for that
polar nexus
https://tenor.com/view/frog-2020-water-this-is-fine-gif-19662045
Nice spa
patent elk
The sword charge fucks
the relic is soo gud u can basically edge ur heat management if u combo heatsink and cranical grounding i feel u can get alot of empowered uptime with it with good management
patent elk
try this combo out
misty ravine
The sword charge fucks
Charge Sword then Charge With Sword
rocky nacelle
And how much prep/buffs is it for that
The main source of that damage is being at max peril with unstable power and warp rider
placid fiber
rocky nacelle
also I run flak cara on my FGS
frosty herald
God DAMN is greatsword fucking fun
rocky nacelle
Because I think the other damage modifier numbers are fine
placid fiber
Uh... dat first gif be a feel...
void bison
rocky nacelle
So yeah sorry to burst your bubble on the “more consistent damage” argument frog
void bison
https://tenor.com/view/jo-jos-bizarre-adventure-frog-fist-gif-11650164
the frog is unharmed due to hamon
dark zealot
https://tenor.com/view/jo-jos-bizarre-adventure-frog-fist-gif-11650164
strongest frog in anime
rocky nacelle
FGS is cracked
dark zealot
the frog is unharmed due to hamon
exactly frog is strong
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/frog-gif-23852610
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/frog-eating-mouth-gif-25224476
polar nexus
FGS is cracked
Frog Great Sword?
trail mantle
dark zealot
Frog Great Sword?
of course
void bison
karktide.
void bison
daring glen
so mk 2 is better than mk 10?
polar nexus
Mk2 is a bit wonkier I think
patent elk
so mk 2 is better than mk 10?
10 feel better imo if u learn the patterns
dark zealot
https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jojo-bizzare-adventure-luck-and-pluck-luck-gif-26364...
never understood this btw
void bison
I think some jokes are lost in translation
void bison
there's some joke in part 7 that makes zero sense outside of japaknees
grizzled aspen
If it's the one with light overheads
Mk2 has light overheads.
placid fiber
some things are funny due to how poorly they were translated lol
grizzled aspen
I feel like relic blade qualifies for one of the few weapons I'd say needs twbs.
placid fiber
I feel like relic blade qualifies for one of the few weapons I'd say needs twbs.
So... in other words I can use it on every build I have on my zealots...
grizzled aspen
Moveset is too complex to fuck around with and risk having it reset.
abstract berry
10 feels good
weak cypress
any important breakpoints on the relic blade for flak vs carapace?
placid fiber
juggling that heat mechanic is cracking people
Some people can't even handle ironbreaker in vt2... and that's one of the most forgiving careers in vt2 much less something like a heat gauge
lean lark
any important breakpoints on the relic blade for flak vs carapace?
none
just get elites
light badge
based on these damage numbers, take a wild guess at what happened in the first fucking minute of the map :)))))))
sturdy abyss
never understood this btw
It’s supposed to basically say he’s giving him courage to go with the luck
hexed igloo
Mornin lads it's 5am
placid fiber
based on these damage numbers, take a wild guess at what happened in the first f...
barrel
lean lark
yes
solar marten
gang what needs changing
light badge
no just barrel
hexed igloo
Wsg darkpill
light badge
I ghost hit a trapper, and my teammate frame perfect rescued me
lean lark
gang what needs changing
everything
dark zealot
It’s supposed to basically say he’s giving him courage to go with the luck
ahh thank you
light badge
just to send me into the abyss
lean lark
solar marten
everything
darn
lean lark
blessings dont matter that much
hexed igloo
gang what needs changing
Yeah so you just gotta swap it out for a dueling sword and you'll be golden
placid fiber
Wsg darkpill
Not my gaming capabilities rn, I'm still burnt out x.x
lean lark
but always have either leakage or cranial
frosty herald
peak is here
dark zealot
peak is here
weird lookin zealot
hexed igloo
Not my gaming capabilities rn, I'm still burnt out x.x
Man it be like that, take some chill my guy
Crack open a game you bought ages ago that you never played
placid fiber
Man it be like that, take some chill my guy
I guess 110 hours in rogue legacy 2 mixed with like 20 more hours of darktide wasn't the smartest thing in a week and a half's time...
solar marten
peak is here
ok but my big ass claymore is cooler than your big ass claymore
placid fiber
Guys, guys, why fight when we can make fun of smykers?
The actual plague of this game
dark zealot
we should unite with the witches and orgyns, we got new toys... unlike the veterans XD
solar marten
oh
placid fiber
Yeah, but, we're gonna get jealous if they get the melta
twilit basalt
solar marten
wait hol up vet is basically same sandbox at talent tree rework
dark zealot
|| then while the witches are distracted we "prank" the smykers||
solar marten
whats a smyker
placid fiber
a psyker that uses smite
solar marten
is that the brain pop
dark zealot
smyker
placid fiber
is that the brain pop
it's the lightning stun
placid fiber
that all the shitty psykers use
solar marten
yeah real
dark zealot
is that the brain pop
https://tenor.com/view/emperor-palpatine-sidious-lightning-mortis-clone-wars-gif-8105493954523190526
solar marten
the darts seem more brain dead
placid fiber
I can count on no hands the amount of good smykers I've seen
dark zealot
the darts seem more brain dead
they are
placid fiber
cause it's fucking 0
dark zealot
but they kill things
lunar fable
so uh
placid fiber
I've seen 1 at least slightly competent smyker or two, but, never a good one
lunar fable
how are people clearance level 1 or 2
dark zealot
so technically speaking the darts players are the ones youd prefer
lunar fable
after one mission you're supposed to be 10 no?
placid fiber
so technically speaking the darts players are the ones youd prefer
I want competent players, idc what they use lol
dark ingot
the darts seem more brain dead
my psyker uses darts because I can’t be fucked to make a more complicated psyker build
winged helm
would mobility be dump stat for relic sword?
dark ingot
fire lasgun and darts ftw
placid fiber
would mobility be dump stat for relic sword?
Yes, generally speaking mobility or defences is the dump stat when a weapon has either
rocky nacelle
I wish flayer setup was good on FGS
frosty herald
para i adore the mk8 greatsword
frosty herald
playing around in the psykarium its a beast
lean lark
after one mission you're supposed to be 10 no?
10 for auric mael
dark ingot
question what is a dump stat cos I hear that talked about a lot but I’m not sure what it is
lean lark
i think 1 is from normal mael
lunar fable
i see
grizzled aspen
Assail can actually be not so braindead because you can use it with true aim for free mettle abuse.
dark ingot
I began playing again recently and now I actually have to make viable builds
placid fiber
question what is a dump stat cos I hear that talked about a lot but I’m not sure...
the stat you want 60% in
placid fiber
while the others are 80%
dark ingot
word thanks
rocky nacelle
para i adore the mk8 greatsword
did you see what I posted for force swords in the darktide chat
frosty herald
i think 1 is from normal mael
nah its 1-10 malice 10-20 heresy and 20+ damnation
dark zealot
i have that top part but red/gold but never been able to remember what set it was actually for
lean lark
nah its 1-10 malice 10-20 heresy and 20+ damnation
its not
i did an auric mael and got havoc10
placid fiber
nah its 1-10 malice 10-20 heresy and 20+ damnation
So, what you're saying is, most darktide players will struggle with 1-10 lol
frosty herald
im also running precognition
lean lark
thats how the havoc levels themselves work
frosty herald
im lying i have momentum on it
placid fiber
im lying i have momentum on it
rocky nacelle
Precog unstable power mk8
that’s the wave
Mk8 is actually the superior FGS imo unless you want more boss damage
then go mk6 for the H2 thrust unyielding numbers
placid fiber
is the heavy 2 like the deimos' heavy 2?
rocky nacelle
Idk it’s just a thrust that does like 2K to unyielding
frosty herald
Mk8 is actually the superior FGS imo unless you want more boss damage
Hehe push thrust mk8
rocky nacelle
the heavy 2 on the mk6
placid fiber
Idk it’s just a thrust that does like 2K to unyielding
Sounds excellent for bulwark racism
wispy snow
The zealot tree layout is different now 😪
rocky nacelle
Hehe push thrust mk8
Mk8 is superior because it has everything unironically
rocky nacelle
vanguard horde clear heavy, 2 strike down heavies for single target, and a thrust poke from push attacking for single target
frosty herald
And you can choose to only light hordeclear or heavy light loop
rocky nacelle
mk8 is the sword to be using
dark zealot
rocky nacelle
And you can choose to only light hordeclear or heavy light loop
just push and don’t follow up (where they open their hand out wards) and you can H1 from any light combo part
placid fiber
With that many hordeclear options I'd be like a kid in a candy shop lol
fickle dagger
When you have the A.S.S title and maelstrom insignia but the commisar says you are still shit
frosty herald
Most ass players are indeed ass
rocky nacelle
Like me
exotic raft
what bottom tree are people running with relic blade? Is it worth building for bp with the finesse stat?
fleet zealot
what bottom tree are people running with relic blade? Is it worth building for b...
piety, and more so cause the weapon has good crit/weakspot blessings
exotic raft
thanks
fickle dagger
rampage cranial, with flak/maniac
storm elm
Cranial Grounding and Energy Leakage or CG and Rampage?
storm elm
Nvm, Loiter's clairvoyant
fleet zealot
cause bruisers have like 10 hit mass
fleet zealot
Cranial Grounding and Energy Leakage or CG and Rampage?
energy leakage is good too
fleet zealot
nah
you will overcharge a lot
and the base weapon is mid
i'm going to try to play heatsink energy transfer at low havoc then go like, wrath rampage or wrath+1 when hitmass starts being an issue
basically will have to constantly juggle it on and off tho
fleet zealot
wait you can't do both perfect block blessings? I wouldn't anyways but why lol
that makes no sense
frosty herald
You can
fleet zealot
it says blessing is locked
exotic raft
which relic sword mark are people running? So far it feels great to use.
storm elm
... Did Stances always move around a little
exotic raft
no, that's new
fleet zealot
lean lark
which relic sword mark are people running? So far it feels great to use.
i like mk10
frosty herald
People need to read devblogs
lean lark
tried both out, they're both just very good
exotic raft
kind of thinking of running martyrdom with this sword just to see how fast I can swing
storm elm
The knife is still invisible in the emote 
solar marten
dude I cannot outcarry the pubs
yo what menu is that
fleet zealot
OHH
exotic raft
yo what menu is that
It's a mod
fleet zealot
no it's not
i forgot i'm only master 19
not 20
so i didn't put points into attack speed perfect block
rocky nacelle
noob
fleet zealot
or dstrike
frosty herald
Im taking away your estrogen
fleet zealot
shut up para eat my shorts
polar nexus
Mk2 has light overheads.
Ok that's my favorite then
rocky nacelle
Im taking away your estrogen
I’m taking away your colored dragon ball super manga
fleet zealot
it's bad manners to insult someone insulting themself
frosty herald
I read black and white anyway nyenyenye
frosty herald
I dont like how its colored
frosty herald
Jojo has much better shading with its colored pages
exotic raft
maybe I'll just run IJ sword for dodge boosts
lunar fable
man those corruption puddles
rocky nacelle
Jojo has much better shading with its colored pages
lunar fable
i'm underestimating them
exotic raft
Man, X thrust attacks feel so good
fleet zealot
copper hawk
Noob
noble bloom
any chads wanna do havoc 1-10{3}
brazen umbra
really does do work
shy kestrel
I assume dump stat on Relic Blade is mobility right?
cyan steppe
shy kestrel
Honestly I could almost see Heat Management being the dump stat. But it's probably still Mobility.
north sedge
it's always mobility
copper hawk
which one is the horde clear sword
north sedge
yes
next warren
Someone has a good build for the relic sword? i did one but i am not sure if its the right one
fickle dagger
Martydom with relic is kinda funny
north sedge
both horde clear
pale spindle
what is the dumpstat for the new weapon?
copper hawk
which one has the most strikedown
north sedge
mk2 just gets better single target at the wild cost of uh, having to know the moveset
copper hawk
k thnx
next warren
mk2 just gets better single target at the wild cost of uh, having to know the mo...
Heresy
My memory loops every 5 seconds, that's why i fall into the same hole every time i beging any mission
frosty herald
And the sprint thrust is so fucking strong
north sedge
my mom's name is Mobility for sure
frosty herald
Defence mobility
frozen trench
nobody knows?
next warren
Mk2 feels much better to use
what blessings are you running?
frosty herald
Cranial energy leak
next warren
maniac + elite on perks?
frosty herald
Lol
storm elm
Queue for Hi Intens AuDamn Dark Communion
Load into the You've Failed the Emperor screen
Free Diamantine
frosty herald
Carapace unyielding
north sedge
cara/unyielding
next warren
That makes more sense
i was seeing some people tlaking about maniac and elite earlier on
And i dont know my numbers, so i just follow the herd
frozen trench
Man also
plucky gate
So it seems like the server it selects is random? Keeps putting me in my friend's server instead of mine, even though i'm queueing and it's my havoc mission
storm elm
Carapace+Unyielding lets you three-shot Crushers on Damnation
frosty herald
I use unpowered mode mostly but if you see a stack of scabs just activate
proper gyro
Is the new greatsword good for a crit build or should I just use it on my martyrdom build
frosty herald
Carapace+Unyielding lets you three-shot Crushers on Damnation
Erm
frozen trench
Anyone experience a freeze and desync problem in darktide?
fleet zealot
Carapace+Unyielding lets you three-shot Crushers on Damnation
you are take elites
isntead
iirc
of carapace
frozen trench
It ruins my runs everytime
fleet zealot
you get the same crusher bps
frozen trench
Is that a connection issue or game bug?
blazing pulsar
Is the new greatsword good for a crit build or should I just use it on my martyr...
Been using it fine on my crit build so far
frosty herald
Sprint chastice heavy oneshots crushers
obsidian prairie
Sprint chastice heavy oneshots crushers
Powered or no
blazing pulsar
What blessings?
I was using cleave on hit and the heat reduction + weakspot damage on weakspot hit
frosty herald
I didnt know it hit the carapace breakpoint with unyielding
lean lark
Powered or no
powered
frosty herald
Powered or no
Powered
lean lark
I didnt know it hit the carapace breakpoint with unyielding
no
you dont need unyielding
frosty herald
Unpowered does like 3k for me lol
tepid sorrel
mreep
proper gyro
I was using cleave on hit and the heat reduction + weakspot damage on weakspot h...
Cranial and Heatsink then?
blazing pulsar
Cranial and Heatsink then?
Idk the names but the 10% heat reduction over 3 seconds is barely noticeable. The other one that reduces heat buildup and gives weakspot damage
trail mantle
heatsink is the reduction over 3 time after crit/weakspot
i mean looking at the blessings, rampage is rampage is should be at least ok, counterattack gives attack speed (but not much) so maybe?, cleave boosting is prolly not super needed if the other blessings can give more uptime on the active
overload seems like memes
obsidian prairie
Extra cleave is only relevant in havoc, cranial is better for normal use
north sedge
cleave is helpful in havoc apparently, cranial keeps you powered longer
plush estuary
blazing pulsar
I actually love that the activation/deactivation is a parry, makes the perfect parry blessings almost not shit
plush estuary
I love the sound it makes when there are like 4 captains and 4 bosses on the map
all the shotguns and roars
vagrant blade
has anyone figured out how to select what havoc rank you start ?
obsidian prairie
overload seems like memes
And yes overload is 30 damage and light stagger
vagrant blade
i have cleared havok 11 and 12 but it still makes me start havoc 10
do i need to start the mission myself to unlock the higher rank ?
solar marten
oh i got a captain poggers at one point
trail mantle
And yes overload is 30 damage and light stagger
fatshark try to make the meme blessing usable challenge impossible
obtuse solstice
if I join a havoc 40 do I skip all the grind
blazing pulsar
i have cleared havok 11 and 12 but it still makes me start havoc 10
Did you play someone else's mission?
vagrant blade
Did you play someone else's mission?
i dont know what that means
I made a party, who owns the mission ?
obsidian prairie
if I join a havoc 40 do I skip all the grind
If you join a havoc 40 you die horribly
blazing pulsar
Did you select the mission?
proper gyro
So is heatsink just not worth it?
autumn void
How’s the new sword?
obtuse solstice
If you join a havoc 40 you die horribly
nah I'd win
exotic raft
New sword is good stuff
proper gyro
How’s the new sword?
Pure boner
blazing pulsar
So is heatsink just not worth it?
Feels bad
vagrant blade
Did you select the mission?
did you mean click play myself ? no someone else did
so only the person who clicks play gets the unlock ?
lean lark
so only the person who clicks play gets the unlock ?
yes
host gets havoc rank
you get yours after a week
lean lark
if its not "your" mission
vagrant blade
that is so incredibly dumb I might just buy a second darktide account and solo all the havocs
exotic raft
Overload is complete and utter ass
blazing pulsar
did you mean click play myself ? no someone else did
Then you did not play your own mission. Your mission only progresses to the next level if you complete your own mission. Your rank however will update to the highest level you cleared at the end of the week which will give you a new personal mission. So you dont necessarily have to play your own mission to progress
frosty herald
Skele is well aware of overload being trash
sturdy cypress
Overload is complete and utter ass
It feels like a common theme with every game where the coolest sounding perks and abilities are always the worst
copper hawk
except for power di..
blazing pulsar
This might just be the worst screenshot of all time
frosty herald
So im hoping they buff its damage to 300 and give a heavier stagger
copper hawk
we r, Gonna make it out the Atomer,,
vagrant blade
Then you did not play your own mission. Your mission only progresses to the next...
ok sorry i am not angry at you, i angry at the system. why is progression personal but you cant start a mission solo ?
blazing pulsar
ok sorry i am not angry at you, i angry at the system. why is progression person...
Idk
sturdy cypress
And then its some lame looking or sounding thing thats actually busted
lean lark
ok sorry i am not angry at you, i angry at the system. why is progression person...
if you're the host you get the rank up instantly
if not you get it after a week
grizzled aspen
we r, Gonna make it out the Atomer,,
You aren't.
copper hawk
where's the crash dump stuff saved
grizzled aspen
Sorry, Cica.
obtuse solstice
having to play like 15 missions to get to the good stuff is dumb
torn plover
cranial wrath or heatsink wrath for Havoc?
blazing pulsar
cranial wrath or heatsink wrath for Havoc?
Cranial
grizzled aspen
cranial wrath or heatsink wrath for Havoc?
I would say heatsink wrath with piety.
lean lark
cranial wrath or heatsink wrath for Havoc?
leakage + any
vagrant blade
I want to love this game but stuff like this makes me hate it with a passion. So many stupid hoops you have to jump through. You can't start it solo. If you form a random team it breaks up after a couple games then you needto start from scratch because your progression only updates after a week. SO far this update has done jack shit for me.
lean lark
syphon very good
grizzled aspen
Heatsink is doodoo
Do you know about how much damage crits do?
proper gyro
3.3333% less heat per second is ass
How much heat do you get per second?
blazing pulsar
Do you know about how much damage crits do?
You know you can crit without heatsink, yea?
blazing pulsar
How much heat do you get per second?
Nah, only feels based
soft pier
cranial wrath or heatsink wrath for Havoc?
Cranial and rampage ngl
solar marten
oh shid i didnt realize how marks work now and rolled a bunch of swords to try and get the mark 2
damn
what gun is in fashion these days
frosty herald
I feel like both greatswords will be very open to buildcraft with
Theres nothing that really feels wrong
fleet zealot
blazing pulsar
Yeah they're just really good all around
solar marten
average keplerian getting high on their own supply smh
blazing pulsar
There are two wolves inside me:
Powercreep 
Weapons fun 
solar marten
tbf kinda feels like better chain sword i think
but its a big ass sword so who cares
torn plover
i wish i was less of a brainlet or the combos were easier
fleet zealot
i don't think chaxe will be havoc viable
solar marten
theres combos?
blazing pulsar
i wish i was less of a brainlet or the combos were easier
There's a lot of nuance to the combos. Much more than "old" weapons, you'll learn
frosty herald
There are two wolves inside me:
Powercreep <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
W...
Oh nah the weapons are strong but not overpowered in any sense
soft pier
Cranial + rampage
Unyeilding dmg
Carapace dmg
Meta relic blade
blazing pulsar
Wrath is totaly necessary in havoc
soft pier
The extra damage...
rocky nacelle
Can’t believe fat shark thought 3 years ahead and ALL the useless impact cleave blessings are actually necessary for end game content
genius
proper gyro
Cranial + rampage
Unyeilding dmg
Carapace dmg
Meta relic blade
Nah I'd maniac + flak
soft pier
36% more damage my beloved 
frosty herald
You wont get the extra damage if it cant even cleave through 3 enemies
blazing pulsar
The extra damage...
Me when I overkill one bruiser for 3k damage but only chop them apart one at a time
lean lark
leakage is prob good until havoc 30
solar marten
gang is this actually peak
fleet zealot
yea extra damage is neat but you kinda need to hit through things
blazing pulsar
gang is this actually peak
No
solar marten
lol
light badge
guys I need help
fleet zealot
like you do not want to be screwed cause a dozen bruisers come for you
frosty herald
guys I need help
We knew that already but explain
light badge
I resorted to playing smite bubble, to carry the pubbers through AM
lean lark
im in havoc 15 rn and leakage is more than enough for cleave
dark zealot
rocky nacelle
you do need help damn
fleet zealot
iirc, elites gives you the cursher BPs
light badge
mfw Smyker top damage because the pubbers are just that bad
frosty herald
Execute hahnda for being a coward
lean lark
thrust on relic blade would be so fucking funny
frosty herald
Do it lmfao
lean lark
you can already deal roughly 7-8k unyielding dmg