Yeah usually that or defences
#zealot-class
visual stream
full nebula
it really depends on the weapon though
frank rock
Well i just maxed the combat axe to 20 mastery and i have one with all 80% except mobility but i wanna change now and test other weapons but yeah have not really an idea what stats to dump. Sure i inspected them but still no plan xD
vale yarrow
Good thing I went for throwing knives then
full nebula
@fiery mural for most zealot melees its generally defenses/mobility as far as i know
you never wanna dump pen/finesse/damage ect
frank rock
You tagged the wrong nitro xD
full nebula
oops
frank rock
But thx for the info
full nebula
now they know too lmao
frank rock
XD
frank rock
Good thing I went for throwing knives then
Love the throwing knives easy killing special enemys with them
plucky gate
<@219911985536434176> for most zealot melees its generally defenses/mobility as ...
Some weapons can get away with dumping cleave damage as well (dueling sword)
it affects it so little that it hardly matters
full nebula
yep
opal star
cleave on the weapon with no cleave is crazy
full nebula
fatshark mechanics
royal vortex
it is important to note cleave damage is infested/unarmored/flak (flak is just bugged on it) adms
and cleave targets is the truly useless one (although cleave damage itself on certain weapons also isn't that important)
grizzled aspen
Every weapon dumps either defenses or mobility (if it has both, dump defenses), except in the cases of:
Force Swords, which dump warp resistance
Staves, which dump warp resistance
Revolvers, which dump reload speed
Flamer, which dumps damage (this is not a joke, it is literally 1 point)
Any weapon that has collateral dumps that instead, like ogryn weapons, recons, and bolt pistols.
I dont think I missed any strange weapons.
quaint rose
is dump stat on ds4 mobility or cleave
somber drift
I thought Revvy's dumped Mobility
grizzled aspen
Nope, they dump reload speed.
3% difference between 60-80% vs a 12% sprint speed diff between 60-80% mobility.
royal vortex
is dump stat on ds4 mobility or cleave
i default to mobility since you always get >50% nowadays so u have the full dodge count
but it probably doesn't matter hugely in the scheme of things
opal star
doesn’t mk 15 evis have a cleave stat that doesn’t particularly matter since its cleave is hard-capped anyway
grizzled aspen
Not the end of the world to dump mobility on it because it's still max dodge count.
grizzled aspen
doesn’t mk 15 evis have a cleave stat that doesn’t particularly matter since its...
I believe evisc has cleave targets.
serene peak
Outrageous ripoff wtf, that's like mr krabs level pricing 😭
grizzled aspen
And light attacks cap at 4 targets for damage, but you can cleave more.
Rev lights can damage 6.
opal star
Outrageous ripoff wtf, that's like mr krabs level pricing 😭
we should kill all scalpers
royal vortex
doesn’t mk 15 evis have a cleave stat that doesn’t particularly matter since its...
the additional cleave does sort of help with stagger, and having >10 cleave lets you hit two mauler chests or two scab ragers
plucky gate
imo you still want the cleave targets on evis for the stagger
grizzled aspen
Yarp.
hard nexus
imo you still want the cleave targets on evis for the stagger
mk3 yes, not on the mk15
grizzled aspen
Doesn't help that it basically has the same dodge issues as psword.
grizzled aspen
Hence why we run IJ on those things.
hard nexus
i run piety on it
grizzled aspen
mk15 cleave targets is only 1 cleave
What I'm hearing is cleave targets dump has merit on mk15?
hard nexus
yes
hard nexus
its like
serene peak
we should kill all scalpers
is it even scalping??? that's an entire generation behind, it's more like flat out robbery lmao
hard nexus
I may need to get me one, then.
mobility doesnt really do much either
the dodge distance barely changes
royal vortex
mobility lets u walk through the level faster so u can change to a better weapon than the ev*scerator
hard nexus
mobility lets u walk through the level faster so u can change to a better weapon...
josho cant handle evis swag
clever swan
gpu prices are always a bit fucked for old models. usually a reseller just putting up random large numbers in hopes someone buys it in ignorance
royal vortex
chain weapons make me violently angry
south folio
this is why i caged him up
hard nexus
chain weapons make me violently angry
mk13g is so OP
royal vortex
this is why i caged him up
do not say this
hard nexus
this is why i caged him up
there are 2 ways to interpret this
full nebula
just buy crypto currency mining gpus for ez discount
opal star
is it even scalping??? that's an entire generation behind, it's more like flat o...
scalping is robbery that takes advantage of there being no legitimate ways to acquire a product in certain circumstances or parts of the world 
copper hawk
this is why i caged him up
And im the freaky one,,
south folio
And im the freaky one,,
indeed you are
full nebula
@light badge i didnt even pay that much for my pc with a 4080 super
grizzled aspen
Going to point at you and say "go femboy go" over and over again until you get jolly then.
copper hawk
We got a bunch of bad news about the deployment and I heard a bunch of higher higher gossip
opal star
quick throw signalis gifs at STAR to cheer em up
copper hawk
And for the first time in a while I couldn't like haha isnt that so terrible
I was just like
clever swan
hard nexus
https://tenor.com/view/signalis-gif-6357609891136684765
me asf
ornate bone
opal star
I regret the gif idea
ornate bone
bitches never ask about how the aftskin is going
clever swan
I regret the gif idea
grizzled aspen
let me look up sexy sharks
I've got one for ya. @sullen forge is right there.
grizzled aspen
Gale is a shark.
royal vortex
sharks are made up by big dolphin to distract you from their crimes
ornate bone
that's a kriegsmarinekorpfussballweltmeisterschaftabteilung
grizzled aspen
that's a kriegsmarinekorpfussballweltmeisterschaftabteilung
Otherwise known in English as: a shark.
copper hawk
KYAAAAAA
copper hawk
sharks are made up by big dolphin to distract you from their crimes
What about
This shork.
ornate bone
I would feel so sad about that dog being rejected by people if it was "just" a body issue and there was a good boy under all of that 
royal vortex
https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-hug-comfort-gift-give-gif-27459482
that one doesnt count
clever swan
https://tenor.com/view/stalker-stalker-shadow-of-chernobyl-gif-13259672441119550...
reminds me of crysis where you could just shoot a helicopter to death with tranq darts
fleet rivet
https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-hug-comfort-gift-give-gif-27459482
Why does it have such human knees?
royal vortex
it has evolved
fleet rivet
Shark-Boy
sullen forge
I hate to say, My sona is infact a shark @ornate bone
@grizzled aspen Also calling me sexy 🤨
grizzled aspen
<@433418308453138433> Also calling me sexy 🤨
:3
copper hawk
Wtf
median steeple
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/nermal-garfield-garfield-meme-nermal-dead-john-gif-182411...
How I felt coming in here when I saw a ping
grizzled aspen
How I felt coming in here when I saw a ping
Pings from me are always a mixed bag, huh?
copper hawk
@sullen forge @sullen forge
copper hawk
copper hawk
https://tenor.com/view/dog-gog-mikihana-miki-hana-gif-26861188
Crusty ass creature
rocky nacelle
Dream dream dream dream dream
or my fist will knock you out
dream dream dream dream
👊
grave cypress
no one told me the mastery skin for double barrel shotty madea the shotty barrel longer. What the heck
rocky nacelle
thats because normal DBarrel is a sawed off
grizzled aspen
Yeah and it's the sexiest mastery skin.
median steeple
the only good mastery skin
sullen forge
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376> no one told me the mastery skin for double barr...
Its the best skin 🚬
grave cypress
shame it isnt a different mark to use
ornate bone
keep yourself safe
median steeple
craggy python
just give me the drilling from hunt pls
double barrel that shoots rifle rounds
with an underbarrel shotgun
grizzled aspen
Doodooshart devs could you give us a Slug DB
FATSHARK, GIVE US AN OVER UNDER SLUG DB AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
sullen forge
median steeple
hoho so jolly
copper hawk
I played it 4 too long
grave cypress
Am I actually better off not empowering this to make use of the lower collat?
rocky nacelle
noob rank
sullen forge
Am I actually better off *not* empowering this to make use of the lower collat?
I uh- would insist upgrading it anyways seeing collateral in general is going to help
grizzled aspen
They have me chained to the pole of 6 star
Chained to a pole??? Freaky...
rocky nacelle
you made it freakier cica
grizzled aspen
AYO????
rocky nacelle
copper hawk
I MEANT that it's only freaky TO YOU
grizzled aspen
And it will forever be remembered
PEAK
grizzled aspen
Inb4 Cica crashout.
sullen forge
Cica crashes out over anything
copper hawk
I have a 1.84 kd in hunt for some rsn
modern lintel
And dont go anywhere
real last year 1 game was enough i throw me back in 5 star now i can throw like 3 games in a row and not move at all
rocky nacelle
6 star is max rank
tarkov rank
grizzled aspen
Cica crashes out over anything
Nah, if anything, the one thing that would make him crash out the hardest would be being seen as freaky on my behalf.
rocky nacelle
suffer
light badge
I have a 1.84 kd in hunt for some rsn
total kills?
rocky nacelle
Im in a perpetual crashout
copper hawk
Unless there's a way to look people up w a website
sullen forge
I forgot I had the random customization rolls on and it gave me a really fucking cool looking Heavy Sword LMAO
copper hawk
Disgusting
elfin steppe
Never seen a game f up so bad.
light badge
WOW, what a great deal!
sullen forge
Disgusting
modern lintel
wonder if theyll drop any sword skins in shop along w update
prob atleast be mastery and havok skins right
sullen forge
WOW, what a great deal!
fleet zealot
river jackal
Anyone have any build recommendations for Zealot for someone who enjoys a tanky/frontliner playstyle with support capabilities? I haven't leveled the class yet so I'm completely in the dark
craggy python
lacerate
fleet zealot
zealot support really isn't a thing outside of chorus
we are simply a very front centered dps class (as is all classes to varying degrees)
river jackal
Chorus build would work
craggy python
Anyone have any build recommendations for Zealot for someone who enjoys a tanky/...
you could try a crit cooldown build with chorus. its quite simple, and you have a lot of freedom with weapons too
river jackal
Chorus is similar to shout on Vet right?
craggy python
yes
river jackal
Knocks enemies back and restores tough + gold tough
full nebula
Similar but not nearly as good or abusable
river jackal
Shout is kinda busted
full nebula
still good, but voice of command is broken
elfin steppe
Why
river jackal
Especially on Auric where you basically have 100% shout uptime lmao
full nebula
for a myriad of reasons, cooldown reduction through perks, insane overheal on your toughness ect
the fact that you can keep doing it over and over and over with little to no restrictions
elfin steppe
As a zealot I usually appreciate it helps me negate bursters. But that's it, since you run around a lot.
fleet zealot
sleepy eepy
visual stream
Never seen a game f up so bad.
Which game is this?
elfin steppe
No more room in hell 2
craggy python
Especially on Auric where you basically have 100% shout uptime lmao
chorus is not as good as chastise
fleet zealot
i can see it not being omg super popular
but how do you fuck up a game that started as a goldsource mod
grizzled aspen
The best support you can do as zealout is killing everything in sight.
full nebula
nothings as good as fotf
elfin steppe
What was bad about it
I have a 4090 and my fps is 30
fleet zealot
nothings as good as fotf
faith in the god emperor is better than fotf 😤
full nebula
tru power of big e
elfin steppe
You get one map and it's full of bugs, zombies go fly weeee
visual stream
For a second I thought the chart was for this game called Dungeonborne
Which was really quite good but the devs were stupidly insistent that they don't do a bandaid patch for something that literally made the game unplayable if someone brought it
"We want to wait to do it the right way" then when they finally did it, it didn't even fix the problem as much as it should have
autumn vector
Dark N Darker, Dungeonborne, I just cant get behind the concept. Hey lets make some competive games where the melee feels floaty or shity or both at the same time.
visual stream
Waited until the playerbase was deaded to do anything smhing
Never played Dark N Darker but DB's combat was actually quite fun
full nebula
I like the concept of most of those games but i hate that they're all pvp focused
autumn vector
DBs combat is better than DnD's Imo but that would probably piss some DnD fans off
autumn vector
I like the concept of most of those games but i hate that they're all pvp focuse...
PvP is alright but I'm way more attracted to coop games I can play with my friends, a medeval dungeon game with DnD based classes that I can play with my friends with challenge and progression? Where do I sign?
full nebula
I'd rather have some type of pve loop though. I hate working for a set up of shit then dying and losing the last 3 hours.
elfin steppe
Is XCOM good?
full nebula
probably if you like turn based combat
elfin steppe
I saw some big discounts.
autumn vector
You can mod it to the point of being starwars practically if you want
visual stream
Is XCOM good?
Gets on my nerves but as far as I played the second game was good
elfin steppe
I do enjoy CRPGs and BG3.
visual stream
Also corny action writing to be expected
copper hawk
winged vessel
PvP is alright but I'm way more attracted to coop games I can play with my frien...
thats just called baldurs gate
full nebula
never played xcom but i think its big combat focus
copper hawk
@river jackal
misty mason
Dark N Darker is quite fun, but your experience of it is going to be largely based on if you like pvp
misty mason
I actually dont think the game is going to have much longevity
misty mason
Because the PvPers are very, uhh, intense?
elfin steppe
Gets on my nerves but as far as I played the second game was good
OK, I'm probably going to check it out.
autumn vector
thats just called baldurs gate
Pretty much, but the way it was setup with my idiot friends made it hard cause we always had someone wondering the fuck off and not being with the party
copper hawk
Play battle brothers,,
misty mason
And those types of games need to have PvErs doing their thing to have the PvP scene thrive, otherwise its just sweats vs sweats
lean fern
Because the PvPers are very, uhh, intense?
sweats?
copper hawk
copper hawk
autumn vector
not so easy
copper hawk
misty mason
Like im a lil baby so I just wanted to explore and play PvE
visual stream
OK, I'm probably going to check it out.
Be aware, you will permanently lose characters to crazy sh that you couldn't have possibly seen coming, savescum or live with that at your discretion 💪
autumn vector
Something a little more on rails to keep the hur durs penned together is kind of what I'm looking for but BG3 was a fun couple of months for sure.
misty mason
But if you see another player 9/10 its either they run away, or they will chase you mindlessly so they can use their sweaty PvP build on you
lean fern
is there a PvE only option?
misty mason
And if you ever point out that it kind of sucks how relentless some of the PvPers are
No
lean fern
wtf
copper hawk
Battle Brothers ,,
full nebula
i like the concept of baldurs gate but man do i not like turn based shit
spare talon
chorus is not as good as chastise
Not in the current auric and normal board sandbox
Havoc on the other hand....
misty mason
They will get verrrry uhh
full nebula
wish it was like a 3rd person rpg without the turn based elements, kind of impossible because its dnd based
misty mason
Like, I guess toxic, but in that special gamer way
Which is a shame cause the PvE is actually really interesting
It is SO slow paced
elfin steppe
Be aware, you will permanently lose characters to crazy sh that you couldn't hav...
Thanks. But I really just don't want to keep myself waiting for grim protocol.
spare talon
Turn based is boring unless the game has something to spice it up
elfin steppe
full nebula
I just hate the concept
fleet zealot
spare talon
I'm biased but an example is the press turn and one more systems from smt and persona respectively adding more planning and depth to turn based fights rather than just hit them till their health is 0
grizzled aspen
I just bought both dd1 and 2.
full nebula
Never played a turnbased game i enjoy, same with isometric arpg shit
misty mason
Armour is a massive tradeoff cause you will die super fast without it, but moving slowly/having no stamina can also get you killed very easily
visual stream
Thanks. But I really just don't want to keep myself waiting for grim protocol.
If you've never played it before, I would absolutely recommend Darkest Dungeon
elfin steppe
Something a little more on rails to keep the hur durs penned together is kind of...
I spent another 60 hours modding and had to force myself to stop.
visual stream
So gud
grizzled aspen
If you've never played it before, I would absolutely recommend Darkest Dungeon
Just bought both of them.
visual stream
Great turn based combat and keeps you immersed
grizzled aspen
Dd1 is literally 2 dollars rn.
visual stream
WHAT
grizzled aspen
You can get both for 19.48.
grizzled aspen
I saw an emote from one of them, decided to check steam, and boom, 2 dollarinos.
misty mason
I like turn based games, but I never managed to get that into DD 1
I think I actually liked 2 more, which is weird
elfin steppe
If you've never played it before, I would absolutely recommend Darkest Dungeon
I bought darkest dungeon 2, lazy MFS haven't updated the content since release date.
It's been a whole year
misty mason
It's level of punishing crossed the rubicon and felt kind of just obnoxious rather than gritty
But I know peopl love it
grizzled aspen
See, that's the thing with these types of games.
plucky gate
Darkest dungeon 1 was really good
grizzled aspen
The punishment only happens because of a lack of knowledge.
plucky gate
never tried 2
misty mason
ehh
grizzled aspen
You are meant to fail.
misty mason
I disagree
elfin steppe
Well don't try it
misty mason
DD1 is very rng heavy
DD2 less so
I can accept the argument for 2
Not so much for 1
plucky gate
You can mitigate how bad rng messes with you if you know what you're doing though
misty mason
Sure
plucky gate
Plenty of people can consistently do challenge runs on it
elfin steppe
They are selling toys before updating the game. Imagine that.
misty mason
But that doesn't change my argument
full nebula
Anyone played the mount and blade games? And if so can I just go one man army and slaughter the npcs myself?
misty mason
Uhh kind of?
If you whack down the difficulty
But you'll need soldiers to be sponges no matter what
visual stream
I bought darkest dungeon 2, lazy MFS haven't updated the content since release d...
Never played 2, my brother quite likes it even though it deviates a lot from the first
brave plover
Is Crusher better than Thunder Hammer?
visual stream
Is Crusher better than Thunder Hammer?
No
misty mason
Otherwise you will get absolutely dogpiled
visual stream
But it's not worse
visual stream
Different tools for different purposes
misty mason
Dynasty warriors?
brave plover
Different tools for different purposes
Can you tell me which cases?
full nebula
see games like that are too brainless, the lotr games, just becomes button mashing
misty mason
MnB is more of a simulator in a lot of ways
grizzled aspen
Anyone played the mount and blade games? And if so can I just go one man army an...
Get warband and download prophesy of pendor from the workshop. You are literally meant to solo armies in that mod.
Be warned that you will get fucking slaughtered if you fight Snake Cult or Heretics without knowing what you're doing, though.
wanton quail
How does Shield of Contempt timer work?
grizzled aspen
Vanskerry Raiders are also annoying.
full nebula
10 bucks for everything with dlc isnt bad hmm
grizzled aspen
I'm going to throw this out there regarding bannerlord, it fucking sucks.
Warband is dated as hell and has a significantly better combat feel.
full nebula
damn shame
Hard to top games sometimes though
Like fallout new vegas vs outer worlds
misty mason
Bannerlord is much better at what it does
full nebula
snorefest
misty mason
I can understand that combat might feel better in warband
But bannerlord actually feels way more true to the setting
full nebula
idk anything about the games, i'm looking for melee oriented stuff mostly. And i've basically wishlisted or scraped steam completely dry.
spare talon
How does Shield of Contempt timer work?
Any time it procs for anyone, it goes on a 10s cooldown where it can proc for anyone else until it's refreshed
full nebula
problem is physics and combat feel in a lot of games
misty mason
Plus its set in early medieval period which I am an enjoyer of
Dark N Darker is free
full nebula
pvp aspect is the killer
misty mason
So if you havent played it you can always check it out
Yeah fair
Its fremium I should say
elfin steppe
Any time it procs for anyone, it goes on a 10s cooldown where it can proc for an...
I actually wish it only triggers after your toughness is broken.
misty mason
But yeah free mode is fine to play around with
elfin steppe
I would definitely use it.
full nebula
if you type swordplay into steam, i probably have 70% of upcoming games that look decent wishlisted
misty mason
So youre looking for like a melee based hero vs army type of game that is a bit more in depth than dynasty warriors?
spare talon
I actually wish it only triggers after your toughness is broken.
That would be much much worse
plucky gate
Not in the current auric and normal board sandbox
Havoc on the other hand....
Is havoc just so brutal that it justifies strong support options?
elfin steppe
That would be much much worse
Not for me 
spare talon
Is havoc just so brutal that it justifies strong support options?
Yes
sterile basalt
Any time it procs for anyone, it goes on a 10s cooldown where it can proc for an...
I'm pretty sure it's separate CD for each player
plucky gate
cool
full nebula
Mostly just looking for things that have good combat/melee feel and physics. A lot of games like the middle earth ones just become a lot of button mashing. Problem is Darktide and Vt2 kinda fill the niche entirely right now.
vague depot
If I am close enough to a chaos spawn to give it a hug and it does the grab can I still avoid it with a single dodge to the right or will I need to slide dodge
full nebula
Setting and whatnot arent too important, just needs a decent pve loop
spare talon
I'm pretty sure it's separate CD for each player
Kuli steam guide
sterile basalt
Kuli steam guide
oh, thx
spare talon
quad VoC veteran?
I think voc is still going to have situational value, like it's original intent was
But it isn't a "I can ignore everything now" button
sterile basalt
I think voc is still going to have situational value, like it's original intent ...
I'm gonna guess that there's some sort of VoC nerf in 2 days time
misty mason
Although Kingdom Come is kind of weird
The melee is great when it works
But there's a parry system which can be suuuuuuper obnoxious
grizzled aspen
The combat is meant to be janky because you are literally an inexperienced peasant.
plucky gate
If I am close enough to a chaos spawn to give it a hug and it does the grab can ...
yes
visual demonstration here
Discord where is my embed
misty mason
The combat is meant to be janky because you are literally an inexperienced peasa...
Yeah at first
vague depot
I can’t load videos rn but thanks I’ll open it when I get home
spare talon
I'm gonna guess that there's some sort of VoC nerf in 2 days time
Yeah they removed all gameplay effects from it and now it just makes vet shout really loud with no gameplay benefit
misty mason
The masterstroke system kinda sucks
vague depot
Is that a yes to the normal dodge or dodge slide
plucky gate
wow discord hates me
next crow
i wonder if triple chorus zealot with crit cdr means permanent invincibility, since you should be able to get your ult back in ~13s with crit cdr and cdr curios and there's a bit of delay after chorus ends before enemies start moving again
vague depot
No its fine I’ll see it when I get home
plucky gate
anyways yes, a normal dodge
It was with an ogryn with a pickaxe
misty mason
You wind up having combats that last for like half an hour cause it just turns into
I PARRY
I PARRY YOUR PARRY
I PARRY YOUR PARRIED PARRY
sterile basalt
Yeah they removed all gameplay effects from it and now it just makes vet shout r...
vague depot
Got it thanks a bunch
full nebula
I wanted to like kingdom come, but I really couldn't bring myself to care about the story or anything going on
brave plover
What just happened?
misty mason
My recommendation is just to take a mace and get the skill that can insta kill if you bop them on the head
You mean you don't care about the Holy Roman Empire and the political machinations of electors in High Medieval Bohemia?
ornate bone
I have found the jolly mood
elfin steppe
How did you know
misty mason
Bros tell me the relic blade is a better power sword
inb4 psword nerf
brazen umbra
elfin steppe
It's not even out yet
full nebula
misty mason
But is solidly in the survival crafting sphere
full nebula
good game have a lot of time in it actually
misty mason
Also wang
full nebula
I was considering picking it up again just to solo
Ive played it a few times with friends and whatnot, and I end up doing most of the material collecting and whatnot
so thats not fun
full nebula
and whatnot
ornate bone
be positive
full nebula
filler expressions and whatnot
ornate bone
whatyes
misty mason
Yeah Ive played it solo a bit and I tend to ramp up the item gather rate to like 2 or 3 times
Otherwise its kind of unbareable
full nebula
most survival games tbh
i guess in concept its not bad if theres multiple people, but otherwise yeah
misty mason
I literally just got Enshrouded and im kind of feeling that
full nebula
games like ark are ridiculous with the artifical extending of time
full nebula
i have it too, bought it around early access and never got around to it
ornate bone
weak cypress
how it feels to use rashad axe
full nebula
i just wish games like chiv or mordhau had a good pve loop
fleet zealot
level 600
me looking at the blessings "it's not that bad"
me looking at the rest "Oh my goodness"
misty mason
Im hoping that KC2 fills that niche
full nebula
yeah i'm gonna give that a shot too
brazen umbra
It's not even out yet
Nothing can ever be good
I don't make the rules
autumn vector
TBH I would love a cosmetic that turns tknifes into a ball musket kek
modern lintel
https://youtu.be/2vz5hvvomsg?si=ygI71B4w-zVULlUf
@rocky nacelle
violet hornet
Just in time for havok penances to drop lol
ornate bone
skill success
grizzled aspen
TBH I would love a cosmetic that turns tknifes into a ball musket kek
It's literally brace of pistols from vt2, you just draw a flintlock and blast something.
modern lintel
paris texas goated
full nebula
except the pistol on rapier is booty \
grizzled aspen
I looked for sexy shark
I hate you.
autumn vector
It's literally brace of pistols from vt2, you just draw a flintlock and blast so...
Perfect tbh
grizzled aspen
I am literally the Grinch.
spare talon
Just in time for havok penances to drop lol
Penance maxxers when they see what the havoc penances require
ornate bone
ornate bone
I know what that is.
what that is is cinema
visual stream
Can you tell me which cases?
Sorry for late response but thunder hammers are good for burst damage, crushers are good for consistent damage and crowd control
full nebula
maybe i should spend several hundreds of dollars on a vr headset to play the 4 good hack and slash vr games
autumn vector
Speaking of havoc, what kind of rewards we get for going through teirs? I seen armor so I'm guessing thats a thing but anything else? Do we know?
remote lark
maybe i should spend several hundreds of dollars on a vr headset to play the 4 g...
I spent 3k on my vr set up so far
You're lowballing it
full nebula
i spent 2 on my pc
remote lark
Actually, 4k
grizzled aspen
I spent 3k on my vr set up so far
You literally sleep in vr, that is not something to be proud of.
remote lark
You literally sleep in vr, that is not something to be proud of.
It helps with my night terrors to hear people
Unironically
brazen umbra
Speaking of havoc, what kind of rewards we get for going through teirs? I seen a...
I would assume multiple sets of cosmetics
remote lark
And it's slightly less cringe than youtube asmr
brazen umbra
And that's it
remote lark
.. I think
rocky nacelle
brave plover
Sorry for late response but thunder hammers are good for burst damage, crushers ...
Thanks mate, no worry about late response
modern lintel
https://open.spotify.com/track/4t6fNE7JadOLuJiehoWS1o?si=ce26def81bb649e3
i got rid of prem spotify cause i havent used it for a while now idk how tf spotify works
full nebula
give mark lizardman more money
clever swan
VR is barely worth it until they make wireless and glasses-sized headsets
full nebula
eh
spare talon
And it's slightly less cringe than youtube asmr
Me when I fall asleep to Darktide Auric Gameplay Asmr
full nebula
i sit 1 foot from my pc anyway
brazen umbra
Fuck vr
remote lark
Quest 3 and a 1.5k-2k range pc. Optionally a dedicated second router in your room unless the routers already in your room to have seamless wireless play
full nebula
pcs done
grizzled aspen
This is going to get you banned, dude.
remote lark
Me personally I'm close to the mossberg route
clever swan
the bigscreen beyond is the coolest vr headset i know about, also the smallest
grizzled aspen
Me personally I'm close to the mossberg route
You stop that.
modern lintel
could probably get it done for under 250 really
remote lark
the bigscreen beyond is the coolest vr headset i know about, also the smallest
Yeah but not plug and play and it's like $1k
brazen umbra
Can't even tell people randomly and unprompted horrible shit on the Internet no more
I thought this was America
I hate it here
remote lark
Can't even tell people randomly and unprompted horrible shit on the Internet no ...
Rat video
clever swan
Yeah but not plug and play and it's like $1k
what does plug and play mean? you mean a standalone headset?
full nebula
still have latency even for singleplayer shit?
clever swan
bigscreen beyond basically can't be a standalone because it's so small
opal star
so what's this about a rat video
grizzled aspen
so what's this about a rat video
You don't wanna know.
remote lark
what does plug and play mean? you mean a standalone headset?
Bigsceen beyond is new and doesn't have alot of support so if u run into issued u might be screwed
It's a good headset though just ecprnsive
Quest 3 is more fleshed out
grizzled aspen
Trust me on this one, you do not want to know about the rat video.
clever swan
Bigsceen beyond is new and doesn't have alot of support so if u run into issued ...
oh gotcha, yeah it's kinda the sacrifice you make for the cutting edge apparently
opal star
You don't wanna know.
I take it it's some gore thing
remote lark
oh gotcha, yeah it's kinda the sacrifice you make for the cutting edge apparentl...
Its not cutting edge
grizzled aspen
Drop it and forget it was mentioned.
remote lark
Its just the smallest available
remote lark
Smaller =/= highest tech
clever swan
not necessarily but I don't think it's lacking in terms of display quality and tracking. I don't actually know though
remote lark
Pimax makes some crazy stuff nowadays and there's also varjo headsets with built in brain tracking
full nebula
500 for quest 3 with controllers idk if thats good
remote lark
I made my own braintracking
grizzled aspen
I made my own braintracking
NERRRRRD
modern lintel
built in brain tracking cant wait to be vegetablized cyberpunk style
grizzled aspen
Just gonna wait for musk to finish neuralink so I can have full body tracking in vr without goofy shit.
remote lark
Zealot starting weapon is SHIT
Ita actually the meta melee weapon LMFAO
grizzled aspen
Isn't the starting axe a rashad?
remote lark
Yep
clever swan
the starting weapons are cursed versions to be fair
clever swan
they can't be upgraded and all that
remote lark
Zealots true starting weapon is the weapon they only let you use in the opening tutorial.. the shovel
full nebula
all weapons and characters are bad until they have good shit on them
stable temple
Just gonna wait for musk to finish neuralink so I can have full body tracking in...
Imagine getting the technological equivalent to the Iphone 1 glued to your brain and needing to have it plucked out for each new iteration.
grizzled aspen
Imagine getting the technological equivalent to the Iphone 1 glued to your brain...
I'm not even gonna respond to that.
hard nexus
I'm gonna guess that there's some sort of VoC nerf in 2 days time
please god itd be so funny
grizzled aspen
To say it's "equivalent to the iPhone 1" is just dumb.
hard nexus
Just gonna wait for musk to finish neuralink so I can have full body tracking in...
short circuit and scrambles ur brain
grizzled aspen
short circuit and scrambles ur brain
Either it works or it suddenly isn't my problem anymore.
remote lark
Its not neuralink
grizzled aspen
🤷
remote lark
You can get cheap braintracking headbands
And actively control things in vr
It's really cool
grizzled aspen
I think you're just a turbo nerd.
remote lark
Takes practice though
modern lintel
brain tracked gooning the future is now
ornate bone
remote lark
I think you're just a turbo nerd.
:(
grizzled aspen
:(
And frankly the idea of vr scares me because you'll drag me into vr chat and make me see things I don't want to see.
sterile basalt
please god itd be so funny
I’m already pretty sure there’s gonna be some sort of toughness multiplier in havoc
hard nexus
To say it's "equivalent to the iPhone 1" is just dumb.
they meant as in, as the technology progresses, youd have to upgrade it by getting brain surgery
sterile basalt
Prob smth like x0.5 at havoc40
grizzled aspen
@remote lark I saw that, coward.
remote lark
<
serene peak
VoC nerf would make me, as the Mexicans say
Anything that makes the playerbase drop from like 85% veterans is a win in my book
grizzled aspen
Freaky lil freak.
south folio
Prob smth like x0.5 at havoc40
ranged enemies boutta annihilate everyone
clever swan
most likely you won't have to take out the neuralink that often. it'll probably be like a cpu where there's a slot (like am4 vs am5) which changes every few years but in the interim you can probably upgrade a bit before needing to change out the slot
south folio
stamina maxxing is no longer the way 😔
remote lark
Never was
stable temple
Anything that makes the playerbase drop from like 85% veterans is a win in my bo...
I know, right? Nothing like sitting in cover as the Zealot with a Veteran that has less ranged than you do with 4 gunners and a sniper saturating the area with lasfire as they look to you to deal with it.
south folio
cardio is always the way
remote lark
Game is unplayable without at LEAST 2x gunner res, or ur just shooting yourself in the foot and eating toughness damage for no reason
south folio
ranged enemies being much more of a threat will be pretty neat gameplay-wise (though there are always ways to handle them without taking any damage)
playing an infantry vet into them sounds a lot more interesting than currently
remote lark
You just have no stamina. :3
You'll give up before I do
grizzled aspen
You'll give up before I do
Damn you took that one head on and didn't even delete your reply.
plucky sparrow
man my zealot teammates are really daring in their loadout selection today
elfin steppe
remote lark
Damn you took that one head on and didn't even delete your reply.
@ minecraft
full nebula
bolter go brrr
grizzled aspen
This looks like an excellent position to blast them with a double barrel.
elfin steppe
remote lark
man my zealot teammates are really daring in their loadout selection today
Immo nade, now you know they're all either memeing or bad
grizzled aspen
@ minecraft
Fake.
remote lark
Useful info
stable temple
To say it's "equivalent to the iPhone 1" is just dumb.
Gen 1. Worst possible public version of the product. You are playing Darktide on the first computer that could run Half Life 2 at max settings. You are on the wave of rockets that explode on the launchpad. You have the first VR Helmet glued to your face.
The Neuralink is the single dumbest thing you could be on the ground floor of, after the Cybertruck which gets bonus points for killing multiple people in one malfunction.
remote lark
V3 of neuralink is already out. It's interesting if you actually research how it's improved. It's definitely not like a cpu you pull in and out atm. Each version changes how deep and how many spikes they sink into your brain
iirc no upgrades are really possible
grizzled aspen
Knowing my luck, I'd twist my neck wrong and I'd shatter some important component and kill myself with it.
remote lark
It's like hammering a cpu directly into your motherboard, it miraculously working, then expecting to be able to pull it out and do it again
clever swan
even worse then
modern lintel
is neuralink reversible or are you just cooked if it goes bad
grizzled aspen
Jokes on us, Lumii works for Musk and is spreading neuralink propaganda.
remote lark
is neuralink reversible or are you just cooked if it goes bad
you can probably get surgery to get it removed
but im sure it's risky
grizzled aspen
I mean, you're fuckin around with your actual brain.
It's gonna be risky to install it, too.
plucky sparrow
pay an outrageous price to get a branded lobotomy!
grizzled aspen
Hell, I'm not even sure how it works, but judging from the fact that you mentioned spikes in the brain, I don't figure it's easy to get it removed.
modern lintel
i wonder if they musk has any plans on prosthetics to be able to sync w neuralink or do they already and im just dumb
grizzled aspen
i wonder if they musk has any plans on prosthetics to be able to sync w neuralin...
The gateway to cybernetics...
I would happily volunteer for cybernetics testing.
remote lark
Hell, I'm not even sure how it works, but judging from the fact that you mention...
It sticks synaptic receivers into ur head to read electrical impulses in your brain
modern lintel
real
grizzled aspen
My bones are going to disintegrate in a few years anyway.
merry flume
You can get cheap braintracking headbands
why would you of all people need to use brain tracking
remote lark
why would you of all people need to use brain tracking
Tail and wing and ear tracking
modern lintel
i need to become adam smasher
clever swan
more like how 
remote lark
I can also summon magic stuff I made with it
remote lark
And cause effects to appear
merry flume
grizzled aspen
The point has gone directly over his smooth brain...
remote lark
:)
merry flume
yeah quest crasher lmao
remote lark
Not that i ever would
grizzled aspen
or crash an entire lobby if I'm in a bad mood
Crash deez.
plucky sparrow
or crash an entire lobby if I'm in a bad mood
im going to upload a zipbomb to your brain
modern lintel
being gay but psychicly
remote lark
im going to upload a zipbomb to your brain
Me when my grandkids upload a virus to my neuralink and make me relive d-day
ornate bone
https://tenor.com/view/boykiseer-blink-blinking-eye-blinking-head-empty-gif-5694...
you like kissing glue, don't you
grizzled aspen
I think Lumii blinks one eyeball at a time like a lizard.
plucky sparrow
Me when my grandkids upload a virus to my neuralink and make me relive d-day
better yet, upload it to them and tell them this was how you went to school everyday
ornate bone
oooooooo you're a gluekisser oooooo
modern lintel
remote lark
I will not elaborate
merry flume
i should probably charge my stuff
grizzled aspen
you were comfy
🤨
remote lark
I fell asleep on him.
merry flume
sinful widget
@remote lark die
remote lark
<@478232915772178462> die
later
grizzled aspen
<@478232915772178462> die
Thank you, my feelings on the matter have been summarized.
clever swan
full nebula
remote lark
I should probably buy a bed soon
modern lintel
bro just sleeps on the floor ok
remote lark
remote lark
bro just sleeps on the floor ok
Not quite
grizzled aspen
You don't have a fucking bed but you have 4k in vr equipment???
remote lark
I will not elaborate
merry flume
yeah he sleeps at the foot of my bed
remote lark
No technically not
remote lark
yeah he sleeps at the foot of my bed
<
grizzled aspen
This man sleeps on a dog bed.
sullen forge
yeah he sleeps at the foot of my bed
He's your pet?
merry flume
no
remote lark
yes
modern lintel
This man sleeps on a dog bed.
merry flume
remote lark
This man sleeps on a dog bed.
:x
sinful widget
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/877778238162731078/1283192473593577563/ezgif-5-5aa3b832f3.gif
atomic fjord
Ita actually the meta melee weapon LMFAO
I want my fucking chainsword
sullen forge
sleep in one
remote lark
no
modern lintel
freaktide it is
remote lark
lol
merry flume
yes.,,continue to send funny cat gifs...
remote lark
I used to though
sinful widget
merry flume
grizzled aspen
I used to though
No, you're sleeping in a normal bed from now on.
remote lark
It gave me back problems
grizzled aspen
I'm going to un-furry-ize you.
sinful widget
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1297199640931991648/1299942320753606737/c...
This one is going into my collection
sullen forge
you want to share with the class Lumii
remote lark
not really
sullen forge
why not :((
grizzled aspen
you want to share with the class Lumii
Probably sleeps on top of his partner, I'm guessing.
clever swan
why is this cat doing all the drugs
sinful widget
Cuz funny
remote lark
Probably sleeps on top of his partner, I'm guessing.
True but not what I mean
remote lark
I umm
grizzled aspen
True but not what I mean
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/happy-blingee-dolphin-picmix-gif-12978169509439366364
How it feels to behead people
remote lark
I'll dm galeo but I'm not posting it here yall can smd
modern lintel
https://tenor.com/view/happy-blingee-dolphin-picmix-gif-12978169509439366364
me when cocaine
grizzled aspen
I'll dm galeo but I'm not posting it here yall can smd
Dm me too, I'm sickened but curious.
sullen forge
I'll dm galeo but I'm not posting it here yall can smd
🗣️
modern lintel
dog kennel inbound or some otherworldly degeneracy
merry flume
he sleeps perfectly vertical like a vampire
grizzled aspen
dog kennel inbound or some otherworldly degeneracy
I will not share if he tells me but I doubt it's degeneracy.
After the last thing he wouldn't share with the class but shared with me, it wasn't that bad.
sullen forge
dog kennel inbound or some otherworldly degeneracy
its not
sinful widget
I'll dm galeo but I'm not posting it here yall can smd
I will syd
modern lintel
i think futons need to make a comeback haven't seen one in a long time
merry flume
yeah they need to but 99% of them aren't comfortable at all
sullen forge
yeah they need to but 99% of them aren't comfortable at all
I say from experience
they suck
they're cool
they just suck
modern lintel
i used to have one w just two mattresses on it
merry flume
like i'd get one to put in my computer room for VR stuff
sullen forge
like i'd get one to put in my computer room for VR stuff
mfer you gonna lay on it and kick your feet back and forth
merry flume
i already do that
grizzled aspen
I'm bullying him in dms right now give him a minute.
sullen forge
he's not gonna break you're just going to excite him
grizzled aspen
he's not gonna break you're just going to excite him
Who said I was trying to break him?
:3
sullen forge
You deserve it.
Personally, I want to see how he acts in VR before I decide if I should bully him or not
Im a kind god
grizzled aspen
Im a kind god
The NARCISSISM holy shit.
sullen forge
LMAO
remote lark
Personally, I want to see how he acts in VR before I decide if I should bully hi...
play with me tonight?
<
sullen forge
play with me tonight?
me no have VR Headset till uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
grizzled aspen
play with me tonight?
You would want a man to play with you huh?
sullen forge
Dec 12th+
grizzled aspen
clever swan
this chat has so many gay and/or furry particles
sullen forge
is there an issue
grizzled aspen
this chat has so many gay and/or furry particles
If you don't like it, the door is that way.
sullen forge
that it has it
sullen forge
Why not
saving up for good VR headset instead of dookie one
one more paycheck and I can get it
remote lark
What's your idea of a good one
clever swan
only the bigscreen beyond ever
sullen forge
See thats a good question Vic suggested a Quest 3
sullen forge
and besides I'll have like 775 to sit on
full nebula
best vr headset are those cardboard ones you put your phone into
grizzled aspen
I will steer clear of vr because Lumii very clearly has intent to show me lewd things I do not need to see.
merry flume
good more for me
sullen forge
I will steer clear of vr because Lumii very clearly has intent to show me lewd t...
See
I would only find it funny
sullen forge
good more for me
🤝
marble dagger
Waiting for Valve to announce their next vr headset. The quest 3 looks like the best value currently but I don't like the idea of the whole meta integration
modern lintel
my experience with vr consist of
merry flume
deckard when.................
grizzled aspen
I would only find it funny
Go ahead and finish your thought.
remote lark
Waiting for Valve to announce their next vr headset. The quest 3 looks like the...
More leaks recently
full nebula
best vr headset if you love the color red
sullen forge
@merry flume But yeah in all seriousness should I get something else or just shoot for a Quest 3
marble dagger
Yup, I was reading leaks on reddit and it made me hopeful
merry flume
sullen forge
merry flume
let lumi give you a recommendation he's the vr """expert"""
grizzled aspen
good more for me
Furry. 🫵 Freak. 🫵 Unclean. 🫵 Impure. 🫵
remote lark
<@103507581405786112> But yeah in all seriousness should I get something else or...
Quest 3 is best you'll get in that price range.
modern lintel
xbox will sadly never even attempt vr with how bad the kinnect fell on its face me thinks
sullen forge
Quest 3 is best you'll get in that price range.
Huh
remote lark
Next step up would be a quest pro or index depending on your wants/needs
marble dagger
I'm hoping they learned from the Index and their next one will have a more practical design philosophy
sullen forge
Shit alright
merry flume
do not get a quest pro for your first headset lmao
remote lark
Those come in at around $1000
sullen forge
Next step up would be a quest pro or index depending on your wants/needs
I could care less as long as I can hook it up to my PC
remote lark
do not get a quest pro for your first headset lmao
^
Q3 is great entry level
no complaints
remote lark
I could care less as long as I can hook it up to my PC
Yeah
sullen forge
It would let me play like Steam VR games also as well cause I know uh
marble dagger
You can get a quest 3 128gb for a little cheaper if you only want to run it through your pc
merry flume
only complaint is if ur weird about making accounts
remote lark
Where's your router at though
merry flume
up ur butt lmao
sullen forge
Literally right under my PC downstairs
grizzled aspen
glances at savings account
$900
quest 3 is affordable
sullen forge
would I need to move it closer?
merry flume
wifi 6?
sullen forge
Guhuh
merry flume
ur good
remote lark
Literally right under my PC downstairs
Could be an issue depending on composition of the floor
But you can also just use a usbc cable so
It's w/e
full nebula
vr needs net support? cant just stream directly from pc?
sullen forge
Worst case I can buy a wired connector and just run it upstairs into my room
marble dagger
Quest has wireless
remote lark
vr needs net support? cant just stream directly from pc?
How do you think you stream from your pc
sullen forge
Oh I know
remote lark
Magic?
full nebula
ah well fuck the net then
marble dagger
Which is nice to not have that cord to trip on but your eyes will be extremely sensitive to latency in vr
remote lark
The thing about cables and quest headsets is that it's literally a charging cable. It comes out easy if you move too fast.
sullen forge
The thing about cables and quest headsets is that it's literally a charging cabl...
Ughhhhhhhhh
I can do that sometimes
remote lark
If you aren't dead set on wireless an index is the best you can buy rn
full nebula
have to figure out something, but my pc sits on my desk literally less than 2 feet from my head
remote lark
But the wireless connection should be fine and there's also easy networking solutions
marble dagger
Index is very cumbersome unfortunately
remote lark
You can buy a cheap router and plug it into your pc and connect your quest to that after configuring it properly.
remote lark
Doesn't matter where your main house router is it you do that
clever swan
Index is very cumbersome unfortunately
it's bigscreen beyond time
grizzled aspen
I must slumber.
sullen forge
I'll most likely just be playing Hotdogs, Horseshoes and Hand grenades and VRChat
merry flume
bonelab multiplayer is essentially vr gmod
sullen forge
Omw to stream WW1 weapons for my friends :)))))
full nebula
if anything im probably gonna end up playing blade and sorcery, shit related
remote lark
I exclusively play bonelab to kill furries
sullen forge
WW1 toys
sullen forge
I exclusively play bonelab to kill furries
🗣️
grizzled aspen
I exclusively play bonelab to kill furries
Furry on furry violence???
sullen forge
absolutely
grizzled aspen
I'll get the popcorn.
remote lark
Yes
merry flume
I exclusively play bonelab to kill furries
edgelord...
remote lark
edgelord...
Shut up, bed
grizzled aspen
💀
remote lark
I'm falling asleep on you again tonight
merry flume
you stink
grizzled aspen
💀💀💀
misty mason
Aw man
remote lark
You like it
misty mason
I wanna play Kengo Master of Bushido, I just had it reappear in my memory
But I think its Playstation only
merry flume
emulation
remote lark
eMuLatiOn
misty mason
Yeah its ps2
grizzled aspen
Vic just got downgraded to bed rank.
misty mason
So id have to
sullen forge
edgelord...
You wouldn't understand
remote lark
Vic just got downgraded to bed rank.
Ok "drool rag"
merry flume
Vic just got downgraded to bed rank.
hes just a yapper
full nebula
i just wanna play gorn so i can chop people up
sullen forge
You like it
Not even denying the stink
merry flume
gorn is so funny
sullen forge
holy shit
grizzled aspen
Ok "drool rag"
And where, pray tell, do you think you're drooling?
remote lark
Not even denying the stink
Boysmell
grizzled aspen
Freak. 🫵
remote lark
And where, pray tell, do you think you're drooling?
merry flume
this chat is my 13th reason why
grizzled aspen
It's girlstink, boysmell, and furstench.
sullen forge
this chat is my 13th reason why
My Furteenth reason why
grizzled aspen
If youre a furry you don't get girlstink or boysmell, you get furstench.
fleet zealot
what in the god damn
fleet zealot
clever swan
this chat is broken
remote lark
Someone hit it..
clever swan
too many particles of unknown quality
grizzled aspen
Someone hit it..
Hit what?
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/funny-dance-gif-20625579
these things are not real
remote lark
My particles of are of an excellent quality tyvm
grizzled aspen
My particles of are of an excellent quality tyvm
Can confirm.
light badge
which settings could I change to avoid super close range pop ins like this?
sullen forge
My particles of are of an excellent quality tyvm
I've yet to experience
remote lark
which settings could I change to avoid super close range pop ins like this?
set skill to max
merry flume
which settings could I change to avoid super close range pop ins like this?
whats ur lod set to
remote lark
I've yet to experience
Yet. Headset when?
grizzled aspen
I've yet to experience
Just join vc with him at some point and he will eventually moan in your ear. 
sullen forge
Yet. Headset when?
Around Dec 12th
grizzled aspen
Because he's a freak.
sullen forge
any day after that I'll get one
merry flume
i wish i had evil mind powers to blow people up
sullen forge
Just join vc with him at some point and he will eventually moan in your ear. <:t...
And?
merry flume
.5
sullen forge
i wish i had evil mind powers to blow people up
Pop skulls by simply thinking to much, call it brain blast
remote lark
any day after that I'll get one
You're missing the point
sullen forge
You're missing the point
Are you demanding I get on, on my PC
remote lark
No
merry flume
deskie
remote lark
I'm saying you'll experience it when you get your headset