zealot-class

[placid fiber]

It could be a -25% max hp debuff as a havoc modifier

[sonic vessel]

128 instead of base 150

OOOOOF, ogryn is gonna feel that one

[trail mantle]

so assuming no debuff to amount of wounds, this is a marty zealot running stamina curios

[placid fiber]

it could be a -25% debuff to all stats

damage, health, toughness, etc

[tame narwhal]

alright i need to know what blessings to use

[placid fiber]

a marty zealot would get 10% more hp so it would be -25% of 220 instead of 200

which would be 165

[trail mantle]

so it's a non marty zealot running wounds

[plucky gate]

regardless of how you look at it, it's a dogshit build

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[ember yew]

Blaze Away + Overpressure or Penetrating flame
Also remove both perks and use something like Flak/Elites/Unyelding or if you gonna use Penetrating Flame - Carapace

[plucky gate]

You don't see stacks of IJ or Piety either. Maybe they just didn't get piety stacks yet but...

i think it's actually just keystoneless

[tame narwhal]

ah, had it on crit cause crit zealot

[placid fiber]

Crit chance is just for funny crit memes. % bonus damage to an armor type or elites is what you use for meta builds

[grizzled aspen]

Flak, maniac, overpressure, blaze away. Could sub unyielding in for maniac for bulwark racism.

Alternative is carapace, unyielding, pen flames, blaze away, for crusher racism.

[hard nexus]

snail emote

[trail mantle]

esp, since crits aren't ye-olde regular double damage crits for most weapons

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[hard nexus]

well few weapons deal double damage on a crit

if any

with the exception of increasing carapace ADMs

[plucky gate]

crits do apply double stacks on flamer though

[placid fiber]

Which it isn't double the damage, it is just a higher adm modifier on the crit right?

[hard nexus]

yarp

[trail mantle]

I was jsut about to ask to double check that lol

[hard nexus]

that’s why i edited

it

edited it

editedit

edit edit

[tame narwhal]

bulwarks dont live long enough due to my knife bs lol. its crushers i want racism towards

[grizzled aspen]

Then do the alternative and do crusher racism.

[hard nexus]

knife is also crusher racism

[grizzled aspen]

True.

[hard nexus]

knife is everything racism

lol

[placid fiber]

NOT ENOUGH EDITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[grizzled aspen]

I dont see why you'd use pen flamer for crusher racism when you're using knife.

[tame narwhal]

yes but i just want genocide lmao

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/tboi-the-binding-of-isaac-the-binding-of-gif-21326835

[trail mantle]

I mean most of 40k is esp on the human side, is just weaponizing racism

[hard nexus]

blaze away over pressure, just use ur knife for any crushers

[ember yew]

get uncanny + precog or riposte knife

and slay crushers left and right

[tame narwhal]

because the amount of times i go into pubs and get hit with 5 crushers grouped up is annoying

[hard nexus]

you like 2-3 shot them with knife

[grizzled aspen]

Valid but like, just kill them.

[hard nexus]

along with incredible dodges

[grizzled aspen]

It takes 10 seconds with a knife.

[hard nexus]

edit edit

edited

[placid fiber]

I know I didn't do the spacing right on all lol

[trail mantle]

not super practiced with the knife, but a lot of taking on crushers is confidence, if you have a weapon that can deal with them all you really need to worry about is the dodging the overhead

[hard nexus]

now it just reads like indited

not edited

brain rot

[hard nexus]

crushers is just spacing really

[grizzled aspen]

Zealout has enough tdr across all 3 types of builds that you can tank any normal hit, so yeah, you just gotta worry about overheads.

[trail mantle]

been playing a lot of pick ogryn and just remaining calm and pick apart a large group of crushers is immensly satisfying

[hard nexus]

pick is the only OP weapon i’m okay with

tbh

ogryn sucks otherwise

so pick is fine

but like

ds4, knife

rashad

euuughhgjhfhh

i ramble

[trail mantle]

I mean if they payed with having bad horde clear (the ds4,knife and axe) it'd be different but they really don't

[hard nexus]

yeah

it’s ok

i’ll out damage them with one of the worst melees

i’m egomaxxing rn

i love mk3 evis

[tight fog]

thats one of the most pretentious things ive heard in this channel

[hard nexus]

at least i can actually back it up lmfao

it absolutely is pretentious but it’s because i think acting like i have a big ego is funny

[hard nexus]

who up editing

[trail mantle]

also it's the meta weapon curse lotsa people using those weapons, lotsa people don't know why they are good and/or aren't good at using the weapon ( or in general)

[hard nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130953226611597413/1301219355929083905/wolpspin.gif

[hard nexus]

yeah true

i out damage almost all ds4, knife, rashad, plasma users

because they just

don’t have the mechanical skill

[placid fiber]

I mean you would outdamage me cause I'm more focused on surviving than damaging... and I have poor aim lol

[hard nexus]

i focus on surviving and damage !

[trail mantle]

I see it alot in WF, people will show their build for some op weapon and ask why theirs's isn't preforming and it's just a horrid mess of modding

[hard nexus]

(health is a resource and i intend to spend it)

i love holy rev

i love being reckless

[placid fiber]

Health is a resource and I intend to avoid spending it

lol

[hard nexus]

it’s pinnacle zealot gameplay

[tight fog]

agreed on that, playing super aggressively is rly fun

[grizzled aspen]

I can attest to this. I'm over here playing around with my crusher and bonking things with my team and Meow is alone, across the map, yelling "GIVE ME HARDER BATTLES" while knee deep in bodies, covered in blood that aint hers.

[placid fiber]

Mostly cause of vt2 ptsd where you can go from full hp to dead in 1 or 2 hits lol

[hard nexus]

me trusting the team to kill one plague ogryn and like 3 gunners

run ahead to kill elite pack and specials

turn around

all 3 are dead

[grizzled aspen]

The moment I have to pay attention to a boss, my team falls apart.

[hard nexus]

clutch with mk3 evis

go revive everyone

[grizzled aspen]

It is actually fucking comical how often it happens.

[placid fiber]

shoulda killed the gunners

[hard nexus]

not a SINGLE THANK YOU

[grizzled aspen]

I played a Gloriana hishock last night and did 2 full rescues.

[hard nexus]

i had to basically tell the psykers (higui, beans, and deadvoid) to say good clutch

[placid fiber]

randos are busy running 0% gunner resist lol

[hard nexus]

after 3 clutches over 3 games

lmfao

[grizzled aspen]

One of my teammates said "Cirilla you're the goat" because I wouldn't fucking die.

[trail mantle]

I have'nt played in like a week and even then I only played a bit, I comeback today and of the like 5-6 games i have played, I had to try and clutch every single one

[hard nexus]

cole gets a reddit post

for playing vet

where is my reddit post.

[grizzled aspen]

Just throwing this out there, warp splitting is better than ethereal shards for assail.

[hard nexus]

i can’t remember the last time i’ve died to normal damage

[placid fiber]

Yeah I sold the rashad to 3 randos once cause I fucking clutched some bs shit that was stupid even with a weapon like the rashad lol

[hard nexus]

it’s always getting disabled into death or barreled off a cliff

[placid fiber]

like... 3 crushers a bulwark a trapper and a mauler while I was cornered

[grizzled aspen]

I have died to normal damage exactly once in the last month, and that was earlier.

[placid fiber]

and my ranged weapon was empty

and I had stun nades

[hard nexus]

silent bruiser backstab?

[placid fiber]

I forgot to use the nades lol

[grizzled aspen]

I got cocky because I had taken only 10 damage in a hishock mercantile, then instantly ate a mauler overhead from behind because my music was too loud.

[hard nexus]

LOL

real

[trail mantle]

one of them I did end up dying but i managed to get a zealot revivied ( I Was playing ogryn) and I had taken care of enough that they could get the rest up and stabilize

[hard nexus]

bruiser backstabs feel like they always are what get my until death

it’s not really that common but like

it’s annoying nonetheless

[placid fiber]

Cocky? You guys have time for that? I'm too busy getting myself worked up over the 1 trapper and my need to murdicate it yesterday to get cocky lol

[hard nexus]

pawesome

[placid fiber]

I tend to hyperfocus disablers lol

[lunar fable]

Play vet

[hard nexus]

i have

i’ve clutched on a bolter exec build

not a single thank you

[placid fiber]

play heavy hitter karsolas pickaxe ogryn

with the rock

and charge

and a gorgon

[stable cypress]

karsolas gives me long covid

[plucky gate]

I have decided to put a bunch of my builds into a wheel so i don't burn out from playing the same thing over and over

[hard nexus]

dclaw

use a dclaw

[plucky gate]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[placid fiber]

You should throw shieldgryn on there lol

[plucky gate]

why did i put this in here?

i hate ogryn so much that i only had 1 entry for ogryn

[lunar fable]

[stable cypress]

time to go to school bitch

[lunar fable]

[placid fiber]

get an achlys stubber gunlugger build

[stable cypress]

read a book read a book read a motherfucking book

[hard nexus]

play this

[placid fiber]

and melt every monster you see

[lunar fable]

It's independent reading time!!!

[hard nexus]

it’s DEAR time

drop everything and read

!

[jagged cradle]

Spectator…

[placid fiber]

Just run this Meow lol https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d934b07-9f3b-4e22-9e0c-95894c7256c7

[hard nexus]

no

my build is meant to never attack

to just waltz through a match

[trail mantle]

the og shieldgryn experience

[hard nexus]

i ran it in heresy

was the most boring thing ever

[placid fiber]

Wuss

[hard nexus]

i’m gonna bring it into an auric hishock at some point

[trail mantle]

shield kinda fucks tbh, just ignore the active

[jagged cradle]

Bumpy weird !

[plucky gate]

I have one actually

[lunar fable]

I'll have you know I was at the reading level Z by 3rd grade

[plucky gate]

i just don't really like playing it

[hard nexus]

stinky freak

[grizzled aspen]

Get on, we are grinding mats out for greatswords.

[lunar fable]

[trail mantle]

and using it a as a shield

[hard nexus]

i had more than a thousand AR points

[jagged cradle]

I’m eating lunch

[hard nexus]

get on my level

[trail mantle]

and anything execpt slaming a large chunk of metal into things

[grizzled aspen]

Eat faster.

[jagged cradle]

I’m not stinky !

[jagged cradle]

No I’m enjoying my pie

[grizzled aspen]

Did you have to get books unlocked for you to take tests on?

[lunar fable]

Stinky

[placid fiber]

This is one of the ones I use lol

[hard nexus]

no

[grizzled aspen]

I did, get on my level.

[hard nexus]

oh

wait

[hard nexus]

no it just like

straight up let me take any test on any book

[grizzled aspen]

?

How?

[hard nexus]

i don’t think i had to have any tests unlocked

maybe i did??

i don’t recall

[grizzled aspen]

There are books that have AR tests but are considered too mature for your grade level if you're too young.

So they're locked.

[hard nexus]

well

i did not

[grizzled aspen]

I did.

[hard nexus]

i remember reading a book that had a sex scene

and

[placid fiber]

This is the other

[jagged cradle]

If I get now I will use my smyker set up I thought of yesterday

[hard nexus]

i don’t think it had to be unlocked

[grizzled aspen]

I regret reading those books because they were borderline smut.

[hard nexus]

yeah same lmfao

[plucky gate]

I just don't find gun ogryn fun

[lunar fable]

[grizzled aspen]

Thanks, mom, your library at home is fucking awful.

[plucky gate]

I always feel like an ammo hog if i fire for too long

[hard nexus]

i was friends with the lady at the library

she was really pretty

[placid fiber]

Have you tried heavy hitter karsolas pickaxe?

[hard nexus]

her name was

lauren i think

[plucky gate]

get this nagging feeling that i'm shooting too much

[hard nexus]

little me had such a crush on her

[gray ice]

you can resolve this by shooting more

[hard nexus]

the county library

not the school library

our school librarian was old and mean

[placid fiber]

You can play this build like a zealot. A big and slow zealot, maybe, but a zealot none the less

ends up with 409hp and 217 toughness

[grizzled aspen]

My highschool librarians were both really chill old ladies.

I'd go in there on my study hall, read, and drink coffee with them.

[light badge]

Watched the Havoc trailer, do my eyes deceive me or are some enemies yellow?

[hard nexus]

my HS liberians were okay, one was annoying but semi kind

[hard nexus]

i think that’s just blessing of nurgle

[spare talon]

They're light green

[hard nexus]

and the other was just kinda there

[gray ice]

they're burgundy

[light badge]

Nurgle's blessing then?

[jagged cradle]

I don’t even remember my hs librarians I only sat there to relax

[light badge]

Swear it looked yellow

[hard nexus]

same lmfao

[jagged cradle]

I always used to skip lunch just so I could sit in a nice corner

[spare talon]

They were shown in a specific segment that shows the unique havoc mutators

So no

They were new modifiers

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/corner-sit-deer-gif-10844181262590199499

[elfin steppe]

Can't wait to test the blade.

[lunar fable]

[gray ice]

2h greatsword my beloved

soon

[jagged cradle]

When you’re surrounded by teenagers all day alittle peace and quiet is nice

[stable cypress]

piss hardened skin

[spare talon]

Yknow what I really wish for tho
I want the 2h force sword (without the special attack obv) on zealot

[placid fiber]

@spare talon New returning special: Blightstormer!

[gray ice]

why cuz moveset?

[spare talon]

Yes
The force greatswords are just
Dopamine
Straight cocaine

[stable cypress]

blightstormer won't be the same if he isn't casting fartnado from behind an inacessible background hill 300 yards away

[gray ice]

Well guess I'll be able to find out some more soon

[placid fiber]

Btw: We do not want blightstormers... imagine a tox bomb... but it disabled you with a moving aoe circle that could get larger the longer it was up...

[lunar fable]

I'd like to see an ogryn caught up in a nado

[placid fiber]

and then did a dot effect

[gray ice]

just redid my psyker tree post tree changes

i have no clue if it's good, but it was definitely fun

[stable cypress]

I want to see wounds shieldgryn plant in front of a shitnado

[spare talon]

Scriers and by crack of bone is so peak

Esp for the 2h

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/bone-broke-broken-bone-purple-accident-gif-14032483

[gray ice]

by crack of bone is wild

i know im late but like gawdamn

[spare talon]

Like it was good with duelling sword and knife cuz one shots yknow

But this just takes it to the next level

[gray ice]

are we taking bets on DS nerfs now that vet and zealot can abuse it

[spare talon]

Walk up to a mixed horde and go from 80% w/scriers active to 20% in seconds

[gray ice]

I didn't get to do much with it

gives me something to look forward to tho

a lil 2h greatsword/columnus scriers action

[spare talon]

Force sword is def the most powerful weapon we're getting
But it's just held back by how fragile psyker is in melee

[grizzled aspen]

Play gooder and you won't have to worry about being fragile.

[gray ice]

inb4 added to vet and zealot like DS

[placid fiber]

and then people are gonna solo damnation level havoc missions with it

[grand tangle]

I think 2h psword will be better than force sword

[gray ice]

errr

[spare talon]

The 2h power sword is really good but it's not busted op

It's heavily propped up by it simply being on zealot with their talents

[gray ice]

zealot OPPP

[spare talon]

I think it would honestly be mid if it wasnt

[placid fiber]

Probably not stronger, but, the zealot is less fragile in melee range so... we'll probably be able to get away with more with less skill

[gray ice]

I dunno about mid, but zealot obvs cranks melee to 11

[spare talon]

Can't really test how it would do outside of that tho lmao

[trail mantle]

what keystone would melee psyker take

[gray ice]

finna hit psyk with 0 talents and perform for Big E

[spare talon]

Disrupt destiny

[trail mantle]

so i'd just lightly modify my gunker then

[jagged cradle]

Would you say power is stronger with Marty or ij

[spare talon]

You can, I also just went all in on melee and assail and just used trauma as a get out of jail free card and the answer to rager packs

[gray ice]

I mean it depends on how you play marty

If you play marty like I do which is find a barrel within 4 secs of the mission starting and stay at 1 bar marty is gonna give you more benefits

[elfin thorn]

is the crit keystone any good?

[gray ice]

The extra swing speed is very noticeable

[spare talon]

I think ij would be better cuz of the dodge distance buffs
But I say that for every weapon

[gray ice]

25% crit for existing

yes it's great

[trail mantle]

with crit weapons yeah

[elfin thorn]

yea that's what i was thinkin'

[spare talon]

Or 15% crit and 25% tdr if you go the other way

[elfin thorn]

i need to read up more on zeal talents but i like running the shared crits with everyone alongside chrous

[spare talon]

Don't take piety if the weapon doesn't have finesse tho, exception is like 2 weapons lmao

[crisp karma]

So my phone died can someone just reaffirm. Chain axe best perks

[jagged cradle]

Ic that’s good enough info thx

[gray ice]

no piety hammers in my games please

[elfin thorn]

team player zealot awesome, tho i use mk15 evis. feels better than crucis lmao and crits kinda helps with horde clear

shock maul crits

[spare talon]

I use piety for the relic blade cuz i just am addicted to fotf spam, and it still works cuz it's finesse

[gleaming furnace]

Dont bother with shared crit chance. It only adds like 5%

[visual stream]

But hammer finesse was just buffed by 0.1 on like two attacks of the moveset it's not throwing trust

[gray ice]

Funnily enough, tried piety relic blade and was pleasantly surprised at the output

[spare talon]

You can also take IJ and crit cdr and have the same effect cuz mk15 can easily take shred

[crisp karma]

I use heavy evis but im trying somethinf differwnt

[elfin thorn]

guess i need to read up more

[gray ice]

https://tenor.com/view/saucer-swap-de-fi-sauce-gif-24323712

[spare talon]

The crit damage isn't really that valuable so shred+scourge is more than enough for the real use, the crit talenrs

[crisp karma]

Chain axe perks!

[spare talon]

Shared crit is 10%

[elfin thorn]

i thought it said 66% of effect shared and the crit was 25%

[spare talon]

Not if you take the left path

25% is right path

[gray ice]

probably flak and maniac/cara

[elfin thorn]

this is fricked up

[grand tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/actions-consequences-serious-when-will-you-learn-gif-13811783

[fleet zealot]

https://youtube.com/shorts/2bqvkBDQan8?si=LonYmfE_-ZX08lkf

[elfin thorn]

frickity fronk

[fleet zealot]

how i feel giving advice for technical issues in gen chat

[visual stream]

Dedicating your whole keystone upgrade to what Scrier Psyker aura already does :D

[gray ice]

Does left path still have that hidden toughness bonus

[placid fiber]

@spare talon Cole! I know what we need to get as another darktide monster! A nurgle blessed minotaur!

[elfin thorn]

wut u trying

[gray ice]

cannae remember anymore

[crisp karma]

Chain axe

[fleet zealot]

"wtf I am suddenly having this error how do I fix?"
send them the fatshark article with multiple possible solutions
"I totally tried all those already"

i've learned to just, walk away then

[stable cypress]

Yall asking for nurgle blessing instead of the mod that makes monstrosity hits slow you down

[fleet zealot]

i don't need to be the IT person

it just makes people mad at them

[placid fiber]

Just imagine how many smykers it could kill, Cole!

[elfin thorn]

heresy

[spare talon]

I'd do flak and unyielding
Maniac is still realistically dreg ragers only and the chaxes can reach one shots on crushers with their power blessings and/or fotf anyway

[fleet zealot]

i want lords to have generic monstrosity variations

that can spawn in the monstrosity rotation

[spare talon]

Yes

[elfin thorn]

wut was shred again

[fleet zealot]

thought it was a missed oppurtunity for both vermintide and darktide

[visual stream]

That would be cool

[spare talon]

I use left path piety for ds5 w/riposte and tac axe

[elfin thorn]

oh wait crit chance on chained hits

[placid fiber]

So like a burgle that shoots out fire instead of corruption?

[visual stream]

Definitely not a missed opportunity for Vermintide

[spare talon]

Blessing, 4% crit chance on chained hit up to 20%

[fleet zealot]

cara unyielding if you can hit all the breakpoints that would normally require flak/maniac

[visual stream]

A lot of those boss fights suck so bad

[fleet zealot]

i mean, that was partially cause of the boss rooms themselves

i don't think ambush captains would suck bad in DT, other than getting bursted down like every other monster

[visual stream]

Burblespew or something like that was so unfun

I agree on Darktide fs though

[fleet zealot]

STAN I SEE YOU TYPING

[hushed knoll]

Hello barn and Hondas

[fleet zealot]

FIX MY NAME

FUCK

[elfin thorn]

sounds awesome, tho wouldn't having cleave and then bloodletter be really good? or is there flexibility if you don't run chastice?

[hushed knoll]

Honduras

[visual stream]

HALLO

[elfin thorn]

halescourge

[fleet zealot]

no lol

[hushed knoll]

Wie geht’s

[placid fiber]

Hello Spoon

[hushed knoll]

I’m not spoon

[fleet zealot]

mk15 has a target cap of 4 even with more cleave, and it's base cleave is like 11 or 8

[placid fiber]

You won't call bandit their right name, so yes you are now Spoon

[hushed knoll]

I like Barn

[spare talon]

Mk15 has a cleave damage cap of 4 targets with high cleave
Other blessing is rampage for just flat out a ton more damage, bloodletter isn't worth it

[fleet zealot]

and bleed is useless to build around because damage is just better

[placid fiber]

Doesn't matter, as long as they are barn you are Spoon

[gray ice]

We use bleed for more crit das about it

[crisp karma]

Really? Not slaughter etc?

[gray ice]

those are blessings

[elfin thorn]

oh wait i think i'm mixung stuff up whoops

[hushed knoll]

Just because you say it doesn’t make it true

[elfin thorn]

i thought bloodletter was 100% crit on special attack kill lol

[placid fiber]

@fleet zealot Bandit, let's call @hushed knoll Spoon until they fix your name

[visual stream]

Nah that's bloodthirsty

[elfin thorn]

bloodthirsty my beloved

[visual stream]

Bloodletter gives bleed stacks

[gray ice]

bloodletter is bleed stacks on rev attacks

[grizzled aspen]

Bloodletter is bleed on special attacks.

[visual stream]

And it sucks very bad on evis to my knowledge

[gray ice]

which ain't really that useful cuz scourge is right there

[fleet zealot]

those are blessings

[visual stream]

Works on chord vet but Idk about anywhere else

[placid fiber]

Okay, Spoon

[fleet zealot]

blessings is slaught ht on mk4, thrust+slaught or headtaker on mk12

[fleet zealot]

hi stern

[placid fiber]

Spoon stern lol

[fleet zealot]

bloodthirsty is good, especially for spamming rev'd l1s on mk15

[elfin thorn]

yea, i think

[crisp karma]

Ah ok sorry i mean blessings

[fleet zealot]

#zealot-class message

[elfin thorn]

trying to get more familiar with it, but it feels like when i get a crit i could one shot up to gunners and ragers

[fleet zealot]

chsword is just powercrept

mostly imo by enemy spawnrate changes

[hushed knoll]

[fleet zealot]

there is more elites and bruiser than ever

[elfin thorn]

yea

[placid fiber]

Interesting take spoony stern

[fleet zealot]

when chsword prefers just raw chaff

[fleet zealot]

Talk Stern

[hushed knoll]

What

[crisp karma]

Yeah im trying to makena xealot with chain axe build overall

[elfin thorn]

didn't know there was a target cap

[placid fiber]

Just a new nickname for you Spoon

[elfin thorn]

damage cap at least for evis

breaks my heart the same way bully clubs do

[grizzled aspen]

The raw, unbridled power of db soyker.

[hushed knoll]

Frogcast happy Christmas

[grizzled aspen]

Like 12 dreg ragers, absolutely oblitered.

[elfin thorn]

guess it's time to switch off wraith and snag some strength blessing 💪

[placid fiber]

Look at Spoon go lol

[grizzled aspen]

I am literally the fucking Grinch.

[grizzled aspen]

I'm going to kill you with rocks.

[fleet zealot]

for warframers in chat

[placid fiber]

Join us with calling him Spoon or Stern! :3

[fleet zealot]

please hold

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/klasik-clasik-clasic-gif-25398314

[elfin thorn]

nice

[hushed knoll]

Stern?

[placid fiber]

Wow, what a stern spoon

[fleet zealot]

do you want flamer or okay with guns?

[gray ice]

Who's a spoon?

am i missing something

[placid fiber]

I am calling @hushed knoll "spoon" until he calls Bandit their right name

[gray ice]

[placid fiber]

Wanna join the fun?

[fleet zealot]

talktauh stern

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d934a29-c73e-40bd-8743-1566dca29725/pro-autism-chainaxe-build-flamer

[hushed knoll]

[placid fiber]

Cool, Spoon

[fleet zealot]

here is my chain axe builds

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d93519a-afd0-40e7-ad7e-fce2e58fe30c/pro-autism-chain-axe-gun

[crisp karma]

Whats best

[gray ice]

I'm around infrequently but I admire the lord's work you perform

[elfin thorn]

that one

[crisp karma]

Ok ironic im using ghat weapon with dumdum

Is it good for auric?

And how come no toughness curio?

[placid fiber]

(All u gotta do is remember that ||Spoon|| is like a Spoon: Dull)

[fleet zealot]

pick what you want lol

[crisp karma]

Thats fair i always see toughness so was curious 🙂

[fleet zealot]

the fact is the meta is flexible enough that players can afford preference for basically anything not called shredder auto pistol

[crisp karma]

Ty

[fleet zealot]

it's martyrdom

[crisp karma]

Ahhh gotcha

[median steeple]

the eep

[elfin thorn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1288701442122846322.gif?quality=lossless&name=Biruta&size=128

[placid fiber]

You know what? I'm done with this. I refuse to engage in bullying anymore and Bandit clearly doesn't like being called "Barn". If you keep calling them that I am going to complain to one of the wardens about it

[grizzled aspen]

Holy cringe batman.

[placid fiber]

I don't find it fun calling people names they don't like

[grizzled aspen]

Yknow, there's this funny word, it's called "hypocrisy."

You might wanna look up the definition of it.

[placid fiber]

I know the definition

[grizzled aspen]

Then don't do it.

[placid fiber]

I didn't like calling stan spoon

[grizzled aspen]

[hushed knoll]

Ok

Bandit

I didn’t know you were so vicious darkpill

[elfin thorn]

lmfao

[grizzled aspen]

Weaponized cringe.

[elfin thorn]

that was sudden, but eh whateva

[frosty herald]

Is this a joke or

[elfin thorn]

this will just be logged and prolly forgotten in timd

gime*

fuck it

forgotten in grime

[crisp karma]

May seem like a dumb one. Whats the difference between rending and brittleness

[placid fiber]

brittleness is a debuff applied to enemies that allies can gain the use of

[frosty herald]

Brittleness is teamwide rending is just for you

[elfin thorn]

brittleness is just a dmg debuff, rending is better dmg vs armor if i recall correctly

[frosty herald]

Brittleness is also a debuffi tself

[elfin thorn]

yea

idk what uses it here, but for oggy grenadier gauntlet with shattering impact is kinda funny

[placid fiber]

shattering impact is on the bolter

[gleaming furnace]

They’re the same. Skullcrusher/soften them up on the other hand are direct debuffs

[placid fiber]

I'm mostly pissed at myself for acting like a bully

[gleaming furnace]

Also vis a vis that thing you asked earlier about the shared crit chance on piety - the node before it is quite good and underrated tbh

[low gulch]

Guessing def is the dump stat on Indignatus Mk IVe as with most else?

[placid fiber]

Defences or mobility is the dump stat, 99% of the time yes

[gray ice]

Damage dump stat for max efficiency

Trust me bro

[grizzled aspen]

The only weapons that don't dump mobility/defences are revolvers, flamers, bolt pistol, recons, stubbers, and force swords.

[elfin thorn]

interesting

[grizzled aspen]

Revolvers dump reload speed, flamers dump damage (this is not a joke), force swords dump warp resist, and the rest dump collateral.

[elfin thorn]

i now know i need a new revolver

[grizzled aspen]

Oh, also, staves dump warp resist too.

[placid fiber]

do the rippers not dump collateral?

[misty ravine]

Except Voidstrike, which dumps blast radius

[grizzled aspen]

Ok, then those, too.

[hexed igloo]

That's all, goodbye

[lunar fable]

[south folio]

brittleness is a debuff on enemies that gives rending to incoming attacks

[placid fiber]

Sorry, Stan, I am just mad at myself I think more than anything

[tame narwhal]

I now know I need to check my bolters and revolver

[buoyant magnet]

does anybody know if skullcrusher works with stuns?

or just stagger

[gray ice]

If they're in stagger animation skullcrusher will apply

[glossy gust]

can someone explain what lethal proximity does? i dont get it, its like, when i shoot, aorund me there is an explosion or wha?

[gray ice]

So bolter rounds normally gotta travel a certain distance to arm and explode

[buoyant magnet]

bolt weapons dont explode at close proximity to you

yeah

[gray ice]

LP eliminates that

[grizzled aspen]

It also has a hidden thing that buffs all explosions you do.

[placid fiber]

does it still increase the global aoe of the crusher and stun nades?

[gray ice]

And buffs radius obvs

[grizzled aspen]

Which means, for zealout, it increases the aoe of sunstorms and crusher bonk.

LP is best on vet because shredders can hit literally everything with it.

[placid fiber]

and it works additively with the bonus from the enhanced nades(for frag nades)

[grizzled aspen]

Yarp, running both LP and tinkerer on vet makes your shredders reach some bullshit distance like 30m.

[placid fiber]

jeeze, that's a big aoe

[versed crest]

Damn, for some reason I hadn't thought about it but seeing someone ACTUALLY using Surety of Arms made me realize that SoA could make Gunker much better with a Creeping Flames build

[wind dagger]

nice powerful reference

[placid fiber]

I'll take it that melts super hordes lol

[grand tangle]

Unironically two nicknames one kid in hs called me

[placid fiber]

I don't really find it funny calling people names, I am annoyed I was acting like that

[grand tangle]

I don't give one fuck

Tbqh

Just strange you gave two I've had for someone else idk

[placid fiber]

Well bandit said one of them lol

That is weird tho

I think I just need to go to bed, my meds have worn off and I'm just making an ass out of myself

[grand tangle]

Sleep is always nice

[placid fiber]

At least I can't go on a war path while I"m asleep, unless I'm sleep walking or something lol

[pine steeple]

Big radius shredders feel like a more available frag bomb, and I'm here for it

[placid fiber]

imagine how big the ogryn's bomb could be with that and the explosion radius talent they can get

it would be like the morgrim's bomb in the chaos wastes in vt2

[pine steeple]

An AOE focused variant of the grenadier gauntlet with LP would sway me towards Ogryn

[placid fiber]

It would be funny, at the very least

[pine steeple]

Maybe the auto cannons will have it

[north olive]

does anyone know a beginner build for zealot?

not really sure how to do things

[placid fiber]

For a level 30 zealot?

[north olive]

currently level 16 but not sure what would work in general

[placid fiber]

Here's something that gives you a decent amount to work with. Toughness on dodge, thy wrath be swift, and until death

[north olive]

thank you my good sir

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/cold-ones-gif-22110952

[placid fiber]

This is a fully worked out version that should work with pretty much any melee weapon

[north olive]

eviscerator my beloved

i do appreciate the help

ty🙏🙏

[placid fiber]

This is also a crit version of it, that should work with a shred eviscerator

[north olive]

ooh yes i do love crits

[pale spindle]

Did someone say

crit evis???!?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d1122f5-8a50-4b29-a5a8-561f71ddb3a7/eviscerator-thru-butter?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[placid fiber]

One of these 2 is more or less the basic formula of any build with the amount of free talents shown at the top for you to path your build with

[hushed knoll]

It’s ok I’m sorry if I annoyed you, I thought we were just joking around

[placid fiber]

My meds have worn off, and I can easily make an ass out of myself like I did earlier. I don't like making fun of people and calling them names

[hexed igloo]

It be like that

[placid fiber]

Being an adult sucks lol

[hexed igloo]

Yea fr

Down your meds (if it's an adequate time for them) and start over homie

[placid fiber]

@north olive btw, I forgot to ping you with this. These are the bare bones of pretty much most good zealot builds

[hexed igloo]

Only a server and a random guy, he'll probably forget about it in 20 mins

[placid fiber]

Not until tomorrow x.x

[hexed igloo]

Oof that's rough

If you don't mind me asking, what are they for

[placid fiber]

adhd

I can be at a happy high energy level and then if I get annoyed... I'm still at a high energy level, but, annoyed instead of happy

[hexed igloo]

I'd think they should last til it's time to take the next set, bit of an odd prescription

[placid fiber]

I've been on them for several years

[hexed igloo]

My partner has borderline, her caps last a bit longer than needed to make sure she doesn't get withdrawal/it wears off

[placid fiber]

I mean the main effect of the stimulant I take wears off towards the evening

otherwise I would be awake the whole night

I take them early in the morning

[hexed igloo]

Makes sense, so you're still kinda medicated but the main part is gone

[placid fiber]

I mean the meds are still in me and I'm not getting withdrawls. I just tend to get hyperactive when they are wearing off like that

[hexed igloo]

I manage my undiagnosed probably maybe add with caffeine and nicotine

Yeah that makes sense tbh

[placid fiber]

The curse of being medicated... you don't deal with it as well when the meds are wearing off x.x

as before you were on the meds

[hexed igloo]

Yeap, the withdrawals just make it that much worse

My partner gets a pretty bad stomachache and brain shocks from withdrawal

[placid fiber]

If my adhd gets too out of hand it can feel like my energy is burning me alive from the inside

that usually doesn't happen unless I didn't get my meds at the right time

like if they're out of stock and I have to wait 6 hours after the pharmacy opens to get them filled <.<'

[hexed igloo]

The best part of adhd is forgetting to take the pills

[placid fiber]

[hexed igloo]

Damn your pharmacy sucks ig

Our one is open from like 6am to 10pm

[placid fiber]

I mean I take adderall and there's a national shortage of it

[hexed igloo]

Oh you meant the pharm being out, not closed lmao

[placid fiber]

Yeah out of stock of the pills

Usually it doesn't happen, but, it can. At least my insurance covers name brand when they're out of generic x.x

[hexed igloo]

They should make dip but Adderall instead that'd be cool

Give me a million bucks and I'll make an energy drink with caffeine, nicotine, and Adderall in it

[placid fiber]

Eh... adderall fucks your brain over, even more so if you don't have adhd

[hexed igloo]

Well yeah it's just meth

Fucks up the dopamine receptors

[placid fiber]

It will make me go from bouncing off the walls to being able to sit still lol

[hexed igloo]

Not as much as glass I guess but still

Yeah brain chemistry is fucking weird

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[north olive]

is there a way i can just become unkillable with zealot

[hexed igloo]

One time I took md, it just ended up making me feel focused as fuck, was weird as hell

[hexed igloo]

Crit built + chastise, have fun

[placid fiber]

Skill + a good build to cover you when you fuck up

You never want to rely on twbs(thy wrath be swift) or until death

It's just there for when the director decides you must die

[hexed igloo]

Nah I be relying on until death so hard

Holy revenant my beloved

[placid fiber]

I haven't relied on until death in... ... ... I've honestly never really relied on it

[hexed igloo]

I jest, it be there for if I get caught in a tox flamer

[placid fiber]

vt2 had taught me the importance of avoiding damage :/

[placid fiber]

I gathered that. :3

[hexed igloo]

It do go hard though, it's nice knowing that I have that last ditch few seconds if it's unavoidable

[placid fiber]

Yeah it gives you enough time to pull yourself together

and start really focusing lol

[hexed igloo]

I've used it to wipe the flamer before he puts any more fire down, I've taken like 6 bursters at once with it lmao

Just tank because invincible

[placid fiber]

Usually it only gets procced when I eat a crusher overhead, or when I'm really stupid

[hexed igloo]

9/10 times I proc it on purpose

[placid fiber]

then again I don't play on aurics often, since I don't like trying to hard carry 3 worthless randos

[hexed igloo]

Oh I just run damnation most of the time

[placid fiber]

I do play differently than a lot of the other people here

[hexed igloo]

Chillin

[placid fiber]

I am a panic gamer, and I play better the more panicked I get x.x

that's very stressful tho

[hexed igloo]

I'm a cool, calm, and collected gamer unless it's rainbow six, which is why I stopped playing rainbow six

[placid fiber]

I've never been able to remain calm, cause then I'm more likely to be less focused and make more mistakes

It's not that I'm chasing adrenaline or something... it's that I need to be fully aware at all times x.x

[hexed igloo]

Nah I beat sekiro leaning back in my chair, feet up on the desk

I focus best when I'm coolin

[placid fiber]

I'm the exact opposite

I'm focusing the best when I'm practically freaking tf out lol

[hexed igloo]

I get twitchy which just makes me miss

[placid fiber]

I mean I do make more mistakes when panicked, but, I also play much better as well

It's really hard to explain how it is good for my gameplay to be panicked since that kinda makes 0 sense

[hexed igloo]

It's like back when I was working on farm, I always rode the bikes way better when I was absolutely seething pissed

[visual stream]

My brother in Tide, we evolved with fight or flight response

[hexed igloo]

Too careful when I was calm, but I would powerslide these dirt bikes when I was pissed, and do it perfectly

[placid fiber]

Well... for me it's panic or flight response lol

[placid fiber]

that's pretty much how it is for me

only I make mistakes still cause I"m panicked

and you make more mistakes when panicked... but my gameplay improves at a high enough level that the mistakes are less of a problem

[hexed igloo]

I got a homie who just laser focuses into his crosshair, like complete tunnel vision it's crazy

I be watching him play like bro how the fuck did you not see that guy

No noticeable difference if you taped over his entire monitor except for a 2" circle around his crosshair

[placid fiber]

lol

I'm not that focused on my crosshair I'm focused on everything around me sort of

[hexed igloo]

I don't even think it's a panic or anger thing when he's gaming

He just be like that it's crazy

[placid fiber]

For me I know 100% it's a panic thing. Some people do get tunnel vision tho

[hexed igloo]

Yeah same I pretty much see everything it's just I won't react in time lmao

[placid fiber]

I can get tunnel vision, but, I generally don't

My weakest gameplay in darktide has been when I was the calmest tbh

[hexed igloo]

I only ever do if I'm playing smth like elden ring/sekiro/monhun but you don't need to see anything other than what you're hitting I guess

[placid fiber]

It might be that I am more ready to react the more panicked I am

[hexed igloo]

Yep, you get more oxygen to your brain

Blood vessels dilate, heart rate jumps

[placid fiber]

Still I've found myself completely soaked in sweat afterwards lol

[hexed igloo]

Okay yeah that's pretty insane lmao

[placid fiber]

That takes a lot out of me x.x

[hexed igloo]

Bro literally sweating on darktide

[placid fiber]

not even intentionally trying to be a sweaty gamer, just doing it naturally playing x.x

[hexed igloo]

You gotta get yourself some of those wristbands and a sweatband for logging on

Booting up darktide in a full 90s style workout getup

[placid fiber]

I bet my heart rate has reached 200 during clutches... <.<'

my normal heart rate can be like 115 tho

[hexed igloo]

My resting is about 90, it spikes real hard if I do anything

[placid fiber]

I've had it where I've literally stopped chatting with my friend because I couldn't use any focus on talking

[hexed igloo]

Was in the hospital on all the monitors once, if I lifted my arm up it'd set off all the alarms

[tropic pelican]

this is how i would describe how i play street fighter

[hexed igloo]

Cringe

Consider touching grass

[placid fiber]

I did, the grass fought back

nearly ended up in the hospital

<_<'

[hexed igloo]

Damn the grass just licked my feet you got off light

[placid fiber]

Well I'm gonna head to bed

have a good night o7

[hexed igloo]

Sweet dreams homie

[placid fiber]

Thanks for the chatting

it helped me calm down a lot actually x.x

[brave plover]

Is there a bigger downgrade than this Thunder Hammer skin?

[grizzled aspen]

Listen man you can just do the "bricks are bad for your teeth" joke at the heretics.

But yes most of the forge livery skins look like shit.

Most ranged weapons are good.

Melee weapons have too much checkered texture or they look like candy canes.

See the combat blade for a peak candy cane.

[brave plover]

This is the true teethbrush for heretics

[grizzled aspen]

Well you've gotta consider the mechancius believe in efficiency. I'm sure cleaning that 2nd hammer is a bitch and a half to do.

[visual stream]

That's actually comparatively pretty good vs. the two non-premium shop skins

[brave plover]

The original one is really good

[hard nexus]

yeah it’s my favorite

[north sedge]

Ogryn pick axe is the funniest, especially with the santas helper hat they can get

[visual stream]

"Ogryn is bad and I know this because there's never auric mael true solos on it"

I wonder why

[shadow sonnet]

Ogryn is so awful to play

[visual stream]

It's fun when you know how to use it

[brave plover]

I see it now

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/justin-bieber-racism-is-evil-racism-is-naughty-christmas-gif-5438212594559823863

[brave plover]

What is the best way to use it?

[visual stream]

Remember and play around the fact that you are six times larger than every other playable class, be mindful of how slow you are, and use your big horsepower well

[brave plover]

[visual stream]

A zealot can and will get away with W keying towards a horizontal gunner conga line but it's harder on ogryn

Dodge slide also very helpful

[brave plover]

I like the shield

[sterile basalt]

There’s no mechanical difference iirc

Besides ogryn sprinting slower

[visual stream]

In terms of built-in survivability and mobility to reach the destination as less than swiss cheese

At the very least, easier

[visual stream]

Shield is good, I like it too

[shadow sonnet]

Ogryn is bigger and eats more bullets, and his slides are shittier

[brazen umbra]

This is u

There's only one good thammer skin

[sterile basalt]

This is not exactly applicable when there’re mechanics designed to make you not take any hits from ranged enemies

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-wake-up-wakey-wakey-awaken-gif-26734899

wtf is this

ia it me or zealot chat more n more furry

[drowsy steppe]

used to be more femboy

ig its a natural progression

[acoustic dune]

o god

the evolution of twink is furry?

[drowsy steppe]

the pipeline..

[acoustic dune]

its the crab evolution all over again

[golden rain]

To be fair it makes sense in a meta-joke perspective. People either build it to basically tickle everything they want to fight, or somehow it's so mega-sharp that it pierces their brains and scrambles any sense of life they had into a jumbled mess.

(shoutout to the lads who do the latter, by the way. y'all are pretty cool dudes.)

[hard nexus]

wha

[acoustic dune]

swag

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-stick-army-of-darkness-bruce-campbell-gun-this-gif-17346017

[ivory drift]

what's the meta perks/blessings for flamer?

[fleet zealot]

they forced this vtuber to play league of legends

[plush estuary]

@hard nexus DEPLOY THE FLAMER PIC!

[bleak ice]

why does she look depressed

[fleet zealot]

blessings blaze away (most important)+ overpressure, perk flak unyielding

[fleet zealot]

you know the answer

[ivory drift]

thank you

[tired isle]

Death

I'm really enjoying the Evicerator

[shadow sonnet]

❤️ the eviscerator

it should be better than it is, but its definitely fun

[hushed knoll]

Hello Bandit

[tired isle]

It works so well with Fury+invo+bloodthirsty

[shadow sonnet]

its good at cuttin up bitches

but its straight up in a lower tier than things like knife, DS, crusher, or even TH

i think its biggest edge is it can run shred to effectively make use of the top right of the tree

and it has the coolest moveset in the game

[tired isle]

Eh it's better at horde clear than TH and Bloodthirsty makes it so you trigger Invo more, thus you can use fury more, thus you are incredibly tanky, fast, and hard-hitting

[shadow sonnet]

and yes, invo

[shadow sonnet]

agreed on all counts

fury every 10 seconds is a great thing

[tired isle]

TH is probably a better weapon minus the blesings and skills, but Eviscerators are reaaaaaaly fun

wish they made them look bigger

[fleet zealot]

bloodthirsty is just for how good activated l1 is for hordes and activated h1 is for crushers

[misty ravine]

I feel like any melee that is less mobile should be more killy, and the best weapons in the game are way too killy for how mobile they are

[shadow sonnet]

yeah

[misty ravine]

Which is not to say Evis or Thammer are bad but they are definitely a noticeable tier below

[fleet zealot]

if you are going crit, you are going to crit every 4 seconds

[shadow sonnet]

much more than that

[fleet zealot]

it is not for invocation maintenance

[fleet zealot]

ehh that would just make mobile weapons defensive noob traps

[south folio]

well that's what mobile weapons are for

that's fine for them to be limited in killing power

[fleet zealot]

mobile weapons can also be precision and finesse over raw stats

[south folio]

and they should be for the sake of balance

sure

they also shouldn't have the absurd single target that they do

[fleet zealot]

not really, everything should be good at killing some things, are the 2 mobile meta weapons too strong, yes

but taxe isn't

[south folio]

and their mobility could be tapered down as well

[fleet zealot]

and taxe is mobile

[south folio]

what are the taxe mobility stats again? sprint speed is average but dodge distance is above average right

[shadow sonnet]

taxe is the exception

shroudfield eviscerator is pretty hillarious too

[fleet zealot]

once again, this makes no sense besides looking only at raw stats. Bigger weapons have wider swings, hit more targets, and have more baseline stagger

[tired isle]

Dueling sword is probably going to be nerfed

[fleet zealot]

hilarious as in it doesn't work?

cause yea,

[shadow sonnet]

it definitely works

[fleet zealot]

it doesn't

lol

[south folio]

sure, but you have to consider that a lot of builds can work in a hordeclear option besides melee

[fleet zealot]

it's well documented, you cannot benefit from the full bonus regardless of what you do

[south folio]

and it's not like they can't totally do hordeclear if you need to

being able to freely kite is a huge advantage

[tired isle]

I did my first Auric Maelstorm (that I remember at least) on Zealot with the Mrk 15 Eviscerator

today

[hushed knoll]

Arco hi

[south folio]

hi stan

[tired isle]

There was someone cosplaying as P Diddy

[fleet zealot]

i think all weapons should have about the same killing power, spread between different unit types and damage focus (finesse vs raw stats). Mobility should compete with stagger, defenses, cleave

mobility should not compete with killing power specifically, it would be unhealthy for long term balance changes

i think you guys have the right problem identified, but the wrong way to solve it

[south folio]

how would it be unhealthy? that the mobility weapons would get nerfed too much?

[fleet zealot]

basically yes, if we are weighing mobility into the damage calculation for some reason

[south folio]

to me, the straightforward answer is that the mobility differences between weapons should get knocked down, and you can justify allocating more damage to them

oh wait that wording of mines is imprecise

[fleet zealot]

i don't think many weapons need more damage

[south folio]

"knocked down" in the sense that it gets lowered

[fleet zealot]

i think we are very power crept as is

[south folio]

yeah i'm talking in terms of ideals

in terms of ideal stat distributions just like you were

like i am all for nerfing stuff

[cerulean moth]

It’s the executioner sword from v2

VALIENT KRUBER

Is back

Power sword my beloved

[fleet zealot]

but yea, just going back to shroudfield evi

no it doesn't work

sorry to burst your bubble

unlike fotf where you can at least rev->hit->activate

[tired isle]

Wait does fury not effect Eviscerator?

[fleet zealot]

you cannot do that with stealth, it won't give you the full bonus no matter what you do, in what order

[south folio]

and, thematically, the mobility weapons are lightweight weapons like the knife and duelling swords, where it's a bit harder to justify making them generalist melees

[fleet zealot]

it will only partially affect your hit if you rev->fotf->hit target, to get the entire benefit (MUCH more damage) you have to rev->hit target->fotf

[fleet zealot]

yea, they should be precision weapons

[tired isle]

ah good I do that anyway

[fleet zealot]

awarding weakspot hits, crits, and good aim

[tiny walrus]

anyone know homicide-chan, i wanna play with him more

steam name Roz

[fleet zealot]

but lacking in stagger, cleaving, and the blocking side

but that is also another issue

this game is extremely dodge favored

having defenses/good blocking doesn't mean shit, only PAs end up doing so

[north sedge]

They should buff everything

[misty ravine]

Even shoving isn't "supposed" to be very good, with most weapons against most enemies. I still remember being surprised at finding out back in VT2 that enemies become more stagger resistant when they wind up big powerful attacks. Most games reward you for punishing enemies when they wind up like that

[fleet zealot]

yea

[misty ravine]

The big takeaway being that the Opportunist trait in VT2 was almost ever worth it (depending on weapon) because enemies would gain more stagger resistance during attack animations than you gained stagger from Opportunist

[fleet zealot]

part of the issue is that the game is ranged focused, and only 2 classes have access to even a way to block ranged, while everyone can dodge bullets/lasers

[light badge]

Gamers, I am home from my grandma's

Yippee

[frosty herald]

Swift slaying on every weapon under the sun

[misty ravine]

Hey, Resourceful Combatant was overpowered for 10 minutes

[fleet zealot]

nerf dodges, classes that already suffer vs range like ogryn and zealot are going to be harder off, and even blocking buffs won't save your psykers and vets, now out of dodges from being smashed into the dirt

[misty ravine]

Plus I'm sure there are a nonzero number of people who don't like Darktide combat just because you have to slide everywhere

[south folio]

probably lower dodge distance by a tiny tad across the board (and lower the dodge distance of certain weapons by quite a bit)

oh yeah slides

slides could probably cost stamina

[fleet zealot]

they made them cost dodge count if used that way

2 dodges actually

[south folio]

well, that's only dodge-slides

but not sprint-slides

[fleet zealot]

which i think is good if dodges weren't so damn forgiving

yea, either stam or 1 dodge baseline

[south folio]

dodge-slides can probably keep consuming dodge charges

but sprint-slides should consume stamina just like jumps do

[fleet zealot]

i think vaulting should be more encouraged

either through class talents or some baseline mechanics

[south folio]

though guess sprint-sliding consuming 1 dodge charge would make the mechanic of dodge-sliding consistent, although that won't be intuitive to players who don't know how it works

[fleet zealot]

like ogryn gets a talent that suppresses/panics enemies around him on say, 5-10 second cooldown

[south folio]

eh, vaulting is a bit too map-specific to deserve something built around it

and players being incentivized to constantly vault seems like a janky gameplay loop

vaulting already counts as a melee dodge, so whatever applies to dodges in general will apply to vaulting anyways

[violet hornet]

reward a single vault, punish vaulting back and forth over the same object

[fleet zealot]

i guess

[misty ravine]

Map consists entirely of convenient chest high walls. We Gears of War now

[violet hornet]

like dbd with windows

[south folio]

TRUUUUUUUE

[tired isle]

We have DC parry, who needs blocking to be good

[fleet zealot]

if we nerf dodging and sliding

it only makes sense to compensate in our lesser used tools

[sullen forge]

grandmama

[fleet zealot]

vaulting and blocking is mainly what i'm thinking of where it's considered weak and rarely used

[north sedge]

No nerfs only farts

[south folio]

prob lower the block cost of stuff, make guardbreak less punishing by adding some mechanic such as immediately recovering after taking a single hit, lower push cost of stuff (why do so many damn weapons have a 2 bar push cost)
dodge distance goes down across the board, some weapons more affected than others

[hard nexus]

i should make it a sticker at this point lmfao

[south folio]

i-frame linger time could also probably go down across the board

[plush estuary]

you should

how big can it be?

better yet

a gif

[ivory drift]

I'm guessing the flamer is asked about a lot lol

[copper hawk]

Noob..

[copper hawk]

Over pressure blaze away

Flak unyielding

Dump stat damage

If ur quirky swap OvPr with Pen Fla

[hard nexus]

mobile weapons should have faster attacks, with quick single target stagger options, but low individual attack damage

[hard nexus]

yah

flamer and backstab penances

[copper hawk]

Yah pick one

[ivory drift]

makes sense

[hard nexus]

are the 2 questions i’ve got screenshots for

[copper hawk]

Vt2 was good at this

Idk what happened since then

When the fish is round..

[obsidian prairie]

Tyranids in darktide person in general

Kill me

[hard nexus]

i want them

tyranids in darktide person in zealot chat…

[copper hawk]

Woah

Freaky

[steel agate]

It was freaky Friday yesterday so that does make sense

[grizzled aspen]

You what???

[obsidian prairie]

Interesting

[steel agate]

He’s a dreamer fr

[hard nexus]

uh oh

[obsidian prairie]

Really fucking funny

[sullen forge]

LMAO

the fuck did I miss

[obsidian prairie]

Azure's alt finally saying sus enough shit to get shot

[modern lintel]

whos azure

[sullen forge]

Let me guess, something something Calling women men or some bullshit he tends to do

[obsidian prairie]

Vet chatter who said veilguard was being political for having a trans character

[obsidian prairie]

Got M-preg reacted and wasn't happy

Actual funniest way to go down

[steel agate]

Must’ve got too pregnant, if that’s even a thing

[sullen forge]

FUCKING OBLITERATED

LMAO

[wary finch]

Oh thats the best way to someone like that off lmaooo

[modern lintel]

fates worse then death mpreg reactioned

https://tenor.com/view/pregnant-man-react-dont-dm-me-were-done-discord-react-dont-pregnant-man-react-me-gif-15172637796834483807

[obsidian prairie]

I think hes back

Yeah

[wary finch]

An alt lmfao

[modern lintel]

i think he might be crushing on you

[steel agate]

https://tenor.com/view/snapcube-eggman-gif-23877695

This dude probably:

Using them all to get another sentence your way

[wary finch]

Certainly is dedicated

[obsidian prairie]

This one hasn't dm'ed me

[modern lintel]

@vernal yoke

[obsidian prairie]

Just a friend request

[steel agate]

interesting since this one was made today

Alt fresh from the creator

[storm crypt]

imagine being so mad someone exists u do this

insane behavior

[obsidian prairie]

What kind of stupid should I message them

[sullen forge]

One second

[wary finch]

This bc he got that lil dog energy

[sullen forge]

🏳️‍⚧️ BOO! Did I scare you? I know its scary to let people be valid

[jaunty gust]

That video is amazing

[sullen forge]

Tap on the glass

[modern lintel]

me swinging at the unopened door waiting on stuff to spawn in

[wary finch]

Luhmao

[jaunty gust]

The week before the US election somebody ripped the pride flag off my house and left a big boot print dented on my garage door. Made us all pretty uncomfortable. People suck.

[wary finch]

Fuckin hell

People are sick out there

This election brought out the goddamn worst

[civic rapids]

We are in the Zealot chat bruzz what did you expected

[sullen forge]

this guys been around before hand, but I mean like- Im not gonna stop you

[wary finch]

kek

[obsidian prairie]

Zealot chat is actually pretty good on this stuff

[sullen forge]

Apparently

2022

Vet/Ogryn chat

were the fucking worst

[wary finch]

Psyker chat's more chill it seems

[sullen forge]

They can have really bad takes

but its not like

nuclear

[wary finch]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[grizzled aspen]

vet chat
Did you need to say anything else?

[wary finch]

Ion care in general tbh
I just vibe til someone says some outta pocket shit

[storm crypt]

this discord on release was insane

[sullen forge]

40k

[fleet zealot]

did i miss something

[obsidian prairie]

Any discord on major release is insane

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/chud-chudjak-dancing-dancing-chud-gif-6914789597436312403

Chud conglomeration

[obsidian prairie]

Azure got shot

Again

[fleet zealot]

[sullen forge]

Azure made ANOTHER alt

to be transphobic