zealot-class

[gray ice]

excuse me where can i find a build for veteran

[robust nymph]

i was gonna use speed load and both

[placid fiber]

[autumn vector]

Bah, they should bake blessings like speed load, rev it up, run n gun, into weapons. Every weapon should have a baked in perk.

[robust nymph]

im using it to deal with things i want gone immediately

[sterile basalt]

Yes, full bore doesn’t do much for that gun

[robust nymph]

run n gun chainsword

[placid fiber]

full bore doesn't do much for the db since it doesn't hit only 1 enemy very often right?

[robust nymph]

okay which gun is best at getting rid of a danger to marty builds

i ahve gunner res on all the trinkets since i dont needa worry about snipers or anything

[hard nexus]

if u mean disablers, revolver or bolt pistol

[robust nymph]

health and toughness for the other

[gray ice]

I mean you would just use whatever complements the melee you're using

[placid fiber]

And if you want true trapper racism: Autopistol with +25% maniac damage

[golden anchor]

Boltpistol with lethal proximity is great because it staggers things nearby

[robust nymph]

im talking about like ragers, gunners, trappers,

[golden anchor]

can just pull it out and start blasting for some space when you accidently chastise into 16 ragers

[placid fiber]

Otherwise use any other gun

[golden anchor]

Bistol is also nice if you're running a low mobility weapon so you can sprint with it out instead to not move like a slug lol

[placid fiber]

That's basically the autopistol's strength... trapper racism...

[misty ravine]

tbf Trappers deserve the rope

[placid fiber]

You can literally blast trappers through hordes due to how many bullets you can fire per second lol

Otherwise it's a wall hanger gun

It's also okay at dreg rager racism as well

.>'

Honestly that probably sold it for some people

[robust nymph]

tbh why is bolt pistol higher damage than spearhead isjt spearhead bigger

[placid fiber]

do you expect sense from fatshark?

Come on, you've been darktiding for long enough...

[robust nymph]

thats true

[placid fiber]

You should know it doesn't exist

[robust nymph]

but still

[placid fiber]

Like why the revolver is better than some guns at killing shit

or why the shovel can outdo some melee weapons

or how the dueling sword is better than a thammer at elite clear

[robust nymph]

right since im using slaughter, headtaker flak and carapace chainaxe 4, what should i do for boltpistol

[placid fiber]

I forgot the last one

That

[sterile basalt]

It’s lower damage

[golden anchor]

Oh chainaxe 4, nice

[placid fiber]

There I made a pic with the full set up

[robust nymph]

just to deal with things that i need gone when im using marty, like ragers(thats about it

[sterile basalt]

Boltgun, braced autogun, DB shotgun, flamer

Those are good vs ragers

[robust nymph]

maybe i should afd flak rager

[golden anchor]

flak ragers are so much weaker than dreg ragers lol

Gym bois scary

[robust nymph]

what things pose the highest threat to this build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d9351b9-3494-47fa-9a56-69173bb65402/make-your-eyes-suffer?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[placid fiber]

Honestly flak ragers scare me less as well lol

[robust nymph]

i play super aggressively btw

[placid fiber]

Autopistol is great for dreg rager and trapper racism, otherwise any other gun is usually better

[robust nymph]

think of vt2 slayer on steroids kind of aggressive

[hard nexus]

everything

this is

not good

[plucky gate]

barrel

[robust nymph]

XD

[placid fiber]

Oh God, it hurts my eyes

[robust nymph]

good

[golden anchor]

Drop enduring faith for dodge + toughness talent

[placid fiber]

oh wait, I don't have eyes anymore

[golden anchor]

After that it's usable lol

[plucky gate]

I didn't even look at it

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-in-the-snow-stoat-robert-e-fuller-having-fun-in-the-snow-enjoying-the-snow-gif-27395167

[plucky gate]

wtf no second wind

[placid fiber]

So get rekt

[robust nymph]

marty

[placid fiber]

I've seen worse builds before, this doesn't even make the top 20

[plucky gate]

this is so fucked up

[plucky gate]

yeah and?

[sterile basalt]

Pretty much everything in the game, unironically

[robust nymph]

what other DODGE talent

[robust nymph]

i built it so well its weakness is everything

[lunar fable]

the one right next to it

xd

[placid fiber]

I've legit seen much worse builds than that lol

[golden anchor]

Second Wind, you don't have a way to consistently crit to use enduring faith

[robust nymph]

oh you meant that

[golden anchor]

Aside from that it's pretty aight

[hard nexus]

one point remaining

to put into whatever

i’d say probably desperation

[placid fiber]

LIke you have restoring faith and the 20% unyielding damage and you call that a bad build?

[hard nexus]

or you can keep anoint in blood

[placid fiber]

Rookie

[plucky gate]

oh my god i just noticed this too

[robust nymph]

thanks, its meant to be shit

[plucky gate]

pathing all the way down for the crit talent
while ignoring the other crit talent

[placid fiber]

You chose the best 2 talents in the middle top tree

[hard nexus]

also u shouldn’t build for crits there

you already have TDR

from martyrdom

and you have nothing for crits

[sterile basalt]

I would highly recommend taking thy wrath be swift

[hard nexus]

also this

but you don’t really have the points for it

[sterile basalt]

Not having that for a chainaxe is basically trolling

[analog ember]

Crutch talent for noobs

[placid fiber]

You also didn't take the corruption removal aura or martyr's purpose @robust nymph

[robust nymph]

there i made it slightly worse

[hard nexus]

no

this is bad

stop!!

stooop!!!

[robust nymph]

its meant to be shit

[golden anchor]

Need Loner on it

[placid fiber]

Like that bad build sucks at how bad it is at being bad

[lunar fable]

i'm gonna take beacon of purity!!!

[hard nexus]

ohh ok

[analog ember]

https://tenor.com/view/kys-keep-yourself-safe-low-tier-god-gif-24664025

[placid fiber]

You choose good talents

Instead of shit ones

[robust nymph]

i know exactly what i did, i made the build as a whole shit, but i picked a few good talents

i have a knack for shit builds

[lunar fable]

[placid fiber]

This is how you make a shit build

Do it right, God

[placid fiber]

That build has a bunch of good talents in it

[sullen forge]

Veteran mains calling TWBS a crutch

Zealot mains calling Iron Will a crutch

[robust nymph]

but maot dont synergize

[sullen forge]

We truly are one in the same

[plucky gate]

true power

[placid fiber]

This is the way, this is how you make shit

[frosty herald]

Is this bait?

[sullen forge]

Nah let me cook

[analog ember]

They’re both crutches. Just don’t get hit bro

[placid fiber]

Look at this one lol

[sullen forge]

Peak elitist mindset

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[robust nymph]

eat air

[sullen forge]

Just don’t get hit ever bro or you’re a shitter 🚬

[plucky gate]

talent trees are a crutch

[placid fiber]

Literally the best build in the game

[sullen forge]

Blessings are a crutch

[hard nexus]

[robust nymph]

no build is worse than having no build

[analog ember]

I’ve been out jerked

[hard nexus]

who wanna true duo talentless

[golden anchor]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d9390a0-c0c1-4b42-980e-3ef4d1686d4f

Here you go

Zealot Meta 2024

[lunar fable]

this

this is what i was looking for

[golden anchor]

Max HP for martyr's purpose CDR

True meta

[frosty herald]

What if we duo where me and you go do the mission called the park

And the objective is to get ice cream

[placid fiber]

Oh wait here we go, this is worse

corruption removal aura on 4 wounds

[frosty herald]

Corruption aura is legit good on grims

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

LMFAOOO

darktide date

[frosty herald]

But the middle tree is just kinda mid

[robust nymph]

remove that bottom left one that one has some usability, get stamina talent(no toehr buff)

[hard nexus]

me and bae out in spireside

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/love-goku-dragon-ball-z-spinning-gif-17162949

[placid fiber]

Yeah, there we go

[plucky gate]

Play martyrdom the way fatshark intended.
Surely they put all the nodes on this path because you're meant to take them together.

[frosty herald]

Biblically acurate shitlot

[robust nymph]

there we go

wait

[lunar fable]

incredible

joined into this

into a crash

[robust nymph]

remove holy cause and get vicious offering(top left above stun nade)

[lunar fable]

[placid fiber]

Next up, Oggy

[gray ice]

@sterile stone you have the reaction time of a turtle stapled to a tree sometimes

[sterile stone]

WHATCHU MEAN

[robust nymph]

no no no remove holy cause leave your and keep that wounds one

[sterile stone]

I WAS HOLDING ME OWN

I only downed once

[gray ice]

that burster that knocked you off the ledge at the end

[robust nymph]

wait no

[gray ice]

you had 3 business months to react

[copper hawk]

[sterile stone]

I looked at bro and accepted my fate

[gray ice]

im finna roll up gimme a couple mins

[sterile stone]

Take your time I gotta go through playlists

[frosty herald]

Did argus get hit by a burster again?

[lunar fable]

mmm

[sterile stone]

I got launched to Narnia by a burster

[gray ice]

i had front row seats to the violation

[placid fiber]

@frosty herald Like my zealot build? lol

[frosty herald]

Good

I killed argus too with a burster lmao

[sterile stone]

Bro gonna call me out but not the level 800 zealot getting netted any chance he could

I'm appauled

Disgusted even

[gray ice]

i dont know him

[placid fiber]

I crafted it with care, and determination

[gray ice]

besides he did the most outta everyone he just caught an L

I was right there to save him both times

[sterile stone]

Both?

That boy got netted for each day of the week

I'm going shield ogryn

I can't be firing any cyclinders off right now

[gray ice]

cant relate no nets no downs i was savin everyone

even rusty i still got it

[sterile stone]

I shoulda never used book

Revoke everybody's bonus toughness

Gatekeep that shit

[gray ice]

no one likes a toughness scrooge spread the wealth

[sterile stone]

Y'all had that

Only thing was the ragers

Even then, scrub washed em

[sullen forge]

I strictly only use stock VOC

Your ass ain’t getting golden

[placid fiber]

The problem is that has shield of contempt

[sullen forge]

Cooking with these Fatshark dev builds here

[placid fiber]

and corruption removal with only 2 wounds is better overall @robust nymph

You actually made it the strongest it could be

And if you take this then there's a chance you can snipe further away enemies more easily

and if you take the flamer... well... it's op as it is lol

crafting the worst build requires knowledge of what is good and what makes what more effective

[gray ice]

@sterile stone you back yet cleetus

[sterile stone]

I'm trying to copy this Oggy build one sec

[placid fiber]

Which one?

[sterile stone]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bcd13f9-6ab4-49a1-b4d4-1e0cfa02dc0a/ogryn-bulwark-frag-bomb-loyal-protector-feel-no-pain-auric-ready

[sterile stone]

Alright I'm good

[gray ice]

no rush just checkin

aight

[placid fiber]

Not bad

[gray ice]

launch us whenever den

[sterile stone]

We run the auric back since we finished it so fast

You know what

That outta be a challenge

Beat a auric maelstrom with all 4 classes before it resets

[placid fiber]

Oh yeah, look at this oggy build!

[sterile stone]

I need a lugger build to finish my Og penances

[placid fiber]

I mean I have a lugger meme build, but, it doesn't use the frag nade. I can edit it to take a frag nade

if you need that

[sterile stone]

I mean it's whatevs

If it does well in auric maelstrom then it's good enough for me

[placid fiber]

Idk about that

if you want auric mael...

[placid fiber]

idk, this is the more tanky version of my gunlugger build but you probably need the suppression aura

and burster limiter if you're doing penances...

[placid fiber]

Idk if this is good for auric maelstrom, but, for the penances that require the suppression aura and maybe the keystone I have in it this is the version I have

idk about taking that to auric maelstrom, tho

You can melt any boss with the achlys stubber tho

This is more of a meme, imo, even tho it is effective at what it does

[mossy tulip]

How tf do you deal with bulwark group with mixed elites as DS zealot

Literally unkillable

[gray ice]

dodge around them

or grenades

run bolter to open them

[mossy tulip]

Bolter could work

The issue with groups is they stack on top of each other

And swing at different times

[rocky nacelle]

ds them

[opal star]

the easy open is to barrel yourself off a cliff to deny them the pleasure of downing you

[lunar fable]

double digits damage taken

and then a sniper snuck up on me

at the very end

[mossy tulip]

Wdym

[opaque island]

I hate burblespue halescourge, all my homies hate burblespue halescourge

[rocky nacelle]

DS alt fire special can stun a bulwark and you just 1 shot them with DS

after

[mossy tulip]

What does DS stand for

[cerulean moth]

QUESTION

what does DS stand for

[robust nymph]

not when you can only go down 1 or 2 times

[cerulean moth]

fuck off Ice I was gonna ask that

cunt

[rocky nacelle]

You say DS zealot and don’t know what DS means?

[mossy tulip]

You said alt fire

[lunar fable]

dark souls zealot

[mossy tulip]

On dueling sword

[rocky nacelle]

you telling me you don’t have a special poke on your dueling sword

[mossy tulip]

Nvm bro

Why’s everyone such a dick today

[cerulean moth]

yeah ice why didn't you KNOW

god...

[placid fiber]

flamer

[rocky nacelle]

yeah keep arguing pedantics but special/alt fire is the same thing

[cerulean moth]

https://tenor.com/bSvZm.gif

[placid fiber]

flamer burns through the bulwark shields

[robust nymph]

lovely message delay

[brazen umbra]

Still nothing on new weapons

[robust nymph]

ahhaha new

[cerulean moth]

ANSWER THE QUESTION

FUCK

next update all classes except vet are getting new weapons yes

[brazen umbra]

I mean no dev blog on it yet

[robust nymph]

YES OGRYN TELEPHONE POLE

[lunar fable]

yeag

[grave cypress]

Im sorry they're buffing the plasma gun again, vets dont use anything else, and its already broken its not all doom and gloom

[dawn valve]

what blessings should i be using for flamer

[robust nymph]

charmed bullet

[sullen forge]

Refuse to use plasma

[robust nymph]

helbore

[frosty herald]

Bolter is better than plasma

https://tenor.com/view/tien-awesome-fkin-tien-shinhan-cool-tien-edit-gif-7171693473668315713

[fleet zealot]

chaxe_irl

[sullen forge]

I use vigilant auto

https://tenor.com/view/shark-shark-nibble-shark-bite-shark-chomp-sand-tiger-gif-7675202316987505233

[grave cypress]

is there a reason why people are talking about chain axe lots today

did we get mention of abuff or

[frosty herald]

No

[fleet zealot]

it's a success story

went from one of the worst melee weapon choices to being a good choice

[frosty herald]

Ehem

Its

Ok...

[fleet zealot]

i think chaxe after the buffed dodges

is good

[cerulean moth]

I HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUUUUU

[grave cypress]

What makes chain axe a good pick from a chain sword or evic, what is it bringing to the table in the catagory of chain

[sullen forge]

Tien if he locked the fuck in

[robust nymph]

@placid fiber so im gonna try and actually make a build for marty with chainaxe and boltpistol, which side is better left or right above beacon

[fleet zealot]

higher single target

mk4 has good stagger and is also the safest chain weapon

since it doesn't need to use rev'd heavies, since it can just spam lights

[north sedge]

Even if you do, it's still strongest

[heady rapids]

first of all it doesnt suck

[grave cypress]

whatre you running on it if i wanna try it out barns

[spare talon]

right side
because all of those talents are terrible except for shield of contempt

[heady rapids]

and has access to two very powerful blessings (headtaker and slaughterer)

its like a combat axe on steroids

[robust nymph]

all the ones i picked

[spare talon]

chainsword = horde clear
evis = generalist, mix of both
chainaxe = single target

[robust nymph]

thats what im using

[grand tangle]

Which chainaxe mark is meta rn

[spare talon]

except combat axes can get even better blessings that blow chainaxes out of the water

[robust nymph]

HEY CORRECTIOK ON CHAINAXE, its a satisfying single target

[sterile stone]

@gray ice That poor burster didn't deserve that

[heady rapids]

cant 1 tap a crusher doe

[gray ice]

he absolutely did

[sterile stone]

That man was on the floor trying to pick up his chicken tendies

[placid fiber]

uh, I'd do benediction instead of the corruption removal aura

[gray ice]

bro will never have another plate without fear

[robust nymph]

the whole build currently or the 2 next to shield(i want endurance with being able to kill things

[fleet zealot]

mk4 is the better one but mk12 is easier for a lot of players to get into

[robust nymph]

okay

[placid fiber]

Listen to Bandit, they're the chain-axe expert

[fleet zealot]

sticky lights messes with players, and it is repetive to only use heavies+push attacks vs horde

[spare talon]

youre right
you can only 2 tap a crusher with a combat axe
but you can also kill 5 targets per swing with combat axes, including elites, because BM is balanced totally

ive killed 3 maulers with one overhead with a combat axe

[gray ice]

BM actually stands for balanced much?

[spare talon]

true

[gray ice]

it's in the code

[fleet zealot]

yea combat axe blows chaxe out of the water ngl

[robust nymph]

what ability is best to pair with marty chainaxe

[fleet zealot]

fury of the faithful

everytime

stealth doesn't work with chain weapons

[robust nymph]

because of the damage?

[fleet zealot]

you fotf after your hit connects tho

damage, mobility, i-frames, instant toughness gen, instant aoe stagger

[spare talon]

and 10s of 20% atk speed

[fleet zealot]

^

that too

with 2 strength blessings mk4 really loves attack speed

you can shred crushers down with just light spam

[robust nymph]

should i take shield of contempt

[fleet zealot]

not on martyrdom

[gray ice]

its mostly because I can shoulder check a sniper

chastise forever great

[fleet zealot]

and on Inexorable judgement you take good balance

[sterile stone]

@gray ice Awww shiiiit

[fleet zealot]

not shield of contempt

[sterile stone]

We got cinnamon toast crunch

Bout to get it cracking with some youtube and cereal

[robust nymph]

oh its damage reduction not toughness damage reduction

[gray ice]

cannot relate

prolly finna whip up some sausage and eggs tho

damn stomach havin whole conversations with a man right now

[sterile stone]

Breakfast for dinner hit different ngl

[robust nymph]

what should i change

[fleet zealot]

no crit toughness DR

you already get enough DR from martyrdom and benediction

[grave cypress]

I thought SoC was no brainer always take talent, im learning so much

[gray ice]

this breakfast for breakfast for me my guy

[fleet zealot]

and twbs is a must, i guess you could ignore it on mk4 chaxe but i don't like it

[gray ice]

i woke up like a little over 2 hours ago

[sterile stone]

Goblin hours

On jah

[fleet zealot]

it's true DR, but zealot is very toughness focused and it's hard to manage when you want to use it

especially since you are competing with 4 teammates

[gray ice]

overnight workers keep you daywalkers shit running right

[fleet zealot]

good balance is better

[gray ice]

should be thanking us

[fleet zealot]

born to be a nightowl, forced to be a daywalker 😦

i hate society

[robust nymph]

EF?

[fleet zealot]

yea

chaxe isn't a crit weapon

[sterile stone]

Morning french toast with that cup of coffee

[fleet zealot]

period

[robust nymph]

right right

[sterile stone]

Sit out on the balcony and let that cold air in

[fleet zealot]

hmmm

i guess you could

take punishment

[sterile stone]

Boooy that's a morning

[fleet zealot]

instead of thy wrath be swift

on mk4 chaxe specifically

[gray ice]

I needa get at one of those countries where it's so far north that they get 5 months of night

that's that good shit

[fleet zealot]

i did say that it doesn't use rev'd attacks as often as any other chain weapon

[sterile stone]

Yeah but then you have like the other half the year being day light all the time

[fleet zealot]

i'd have to test how it feels now with the buffs

[sterile stone]

Not worf

[gray ice]

that's when you flee back to your home country

ain't even that hard

[fleet zealot]

Also

chaxe doesn't need duelist

it has low finesse ratios

[robust nymph]

im using bolt pistol, with lethal prox, qnd run n gun(incase of something i need dead immediately like a rager when im in ranger

[fleet zealot]

and frankly, doesn't need it, you oneshot everything not a boss/monstro as is

[fleet zealot]

don't use lethal prox you aren't using frag nades or crusher maul

[robust nymph]

the blessing on bolt pistol

[fleet zealot]

yea

[robust nymph]

okay

[fleet zealot]

do puncture

or surgical if you are aiming a lot

[robust nymph]

puncture, run n gun?

im not

i use it for emergency

[grave cypress]

Aiming in darktide? I thought everyone just skids everywhere and kills the ranged threats with their melee

[fleet zealot]

then yea, puncture run and gun

hits a ton of close breakpoints

[robust nymph]

what perks on bolt? i ahve maniac and elites rn

[fleet zealot]

lethal prox is for crusher mauls for zealot, otherwise it buffs nades, but stunstorm doesn't need more radius it's massive

[robust nymph]

lol

i didnt know that bleasing on a gun affected a nade

but what perks

[fleet zealot]

go test in psykanium if needed, but rn

let me load open my game

[robust nymph]

i have 2 talent poins left

[fleet zealot]

it buffs crusher maul activated attacks

[robust nymph]

explain it like you trying to explain it to an ogryn

[fleet zealot]

take punishment and desperation or anoint in blood+ purge the unclean

[fleet zealot]

it makes all explosions bigger, even if the bolt pistol isn't out

vicious offering isn't bad either

since mk4 horde clear is all heavies

[robust nymph]

yeah

im got with purge the unclean snd the anoint since im usually point blank when using for emergency

[fleet zealot]

yea, anoint+ run and gun work well together as well

[robust nymph]

the trinkets have gunner res, hp and toughness, and the main on them is wounds

[fleet zealot]

swap the last gunner resistance to sniper resistance,

gives a ton of breakpoints

[robust nymph]

why sniper there easy to dodge

[fleet zealot]

and resistances have diminishing returns so the last gunner resistance is like, 10% or less after martyrdom and benediction

[robust nymph]

oh

[fleet zealot]

they can end runs if you get bodyblocked

[robust nymph]

so 2 gunner res, 1 sniper res

thats true

[fleet zealot]

like i've been trapped by a voidblast staff too many times

[robust nymph]

btw is gunner res including reapers

[fleet zealot]

i believe yes

[lunar fable]

that happened to me earlier

basically took no hp damage the whole match

[fleet zealot]

but reapers you should be sliding or using enemy heretics as meatshield cover

[lunar fable]

and then i got bodyblocked into a sniper

[robust nymph]

no gunner res x2 , 1 sniper res

other slot are health and toughness and main is wounds

[fleet zealot]

yea

that's what I run

[robust nymph]

kk

[fleet zealot]

stam regen is also good

since MK4 PAs are good

wouldn't take a +3 stam on martyrdom specifically tho, would consider it for IJ

[robust nymph]

what do i needa change

[robust nymph]

im going more wounds on trinkets

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d93a4fe-1ae2-493f-926a-22f239885d58/my-attempt?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[fleet zealot]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d93519a-afd0-40e7-ad7e-fce2e58fe30c/pro-autism-chain-axe-gun

[fleet zealot]

i'd take unyielding instead of flak on chain axe

unless you are running a lot of assassination/twins

[robust nymph]

isnt that only affecting ogryn enemies

[mossy tulip]

does DS special actually open up bulwarks

trying it in psyk rn

[fleet zealot]

because mk4 chaxe oneshots all flak enemies that aren't traitor captains

[robust nymph]

oh

[fleet zealot]

bulwark, reapers, monstros

[mossy tulip]

or is there a specific way to do it

[grand tangle]

And monstrosities

[robust nymph]

keep carapace

[light badge]

Are perk damage buffs additive or multiplicative? Like Purge the Unclean with an Unyielding perk, for example

[robust nymph]

?

[grand tangle]

Of you hit their head behind the shield, yes

[sterile basalt]

Unyielding perk is x125% damage to unyielding (all damage instances)

Not sure abt purge the unclean

[mossy tulip]

but like

[sterile basalt]

U can test

[mossy tulip]

isnt this hard to do

if there are multiple

[light badge]

For my case I'm asking specifically for Kinetic Presence and Elite damage perk

[sterile basalt]

+damage vs elite is additive to other +damage sources (multiplicative to strength, damage.taken, flanking damage and damage vs armor type)

[fleet zealot]

yea

crushers and bulwarks are the main breakpoints you worry about with chain axe

and mauler heads

[robust nymph]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d93a4fe-1ae2-493f-926a-22f239885d58/my-attempt?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

is it ready for use

[light badge]

Noted

Gonna slap +17.5% to every elite on my Deimos for the funny

[spare talon]

thats so based

[fleet zealot]

i would test bistol in the psykanium

specialists mostly

[cerulean moth]

pisstole

[sullen forge]

Elite racism is a problem in the Darktide community and you’re encouraging it

Foreshame Hahnda

[light badge]

Don't care

[merry flume]

assail is the perfect tool

[light badge]

'ate bulwarks, ate Ragers, ate shotgunners, ate crushers

Simple as

[merry flume]

you're eating them? 😟

[rocky nacelle]

boss shows up?

assail

marriage failing?

assail

entire team is dead? guess what

assail

[merry flume]

hungry?

assail

[rocky nacelle]

hotel?

trivago

[fleet zealot]

crimas

[merry flume]

just got off work

[rocky nacelle]

😎

[merry flume]

gotta drive home

average 4pm afternoon on the East Coast

[rocky nacelle]

oh hey theres remotely some light still out for me rn

[sullen forge]

Working for another hour :(((

[tropic zealot]

What's the dump stat on the Autopistol

[grave cypress]

My favorite weapon makes my face light up to see a rager honestly

[fleet zealot]

the whole thing /j

[tropic zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle-frustrated-garbage-trash-gif-27186872

[fleet zealot]

collateral

[tropic zealot]

Thank you.

[placid fiber]

I mean you aren't wrong

[sullen forge]

It’s such a hallow shell of its former self

[fleet zealot]

back to the perk board (dreg gunner)

[light badge]

Honestly I think I could do that same thing again without Assail

Flayer Surge is that good of a combo

[fleet zealot]

God damn it

i got the flamer BPs

ok so lets do. maniac to elites

fuck that might brick em

flak to elites

if i have to put unarmored on my bolt pistol for dreg gunners i'm going to punch a wall

[sullen forge]

You’re going to use Unarmored

[fleet zealot]

ok new rankings for bistol perks for zealot, maniac+elites

nope

[sullen forge]

And you’re going to like it

[fleet zealot]

hit it with elites gale

GOD IT's SO GOOD

[autumn vector]

Get home. Room is warm. Why is room warm? Left computer on all night with darktide iddling.

Huh

What a great heater

[fleet zealot]

AAHHA dead

and i got all the flamer breakpoints still

[autumn vector]

What magic is this?

[fleet zealot]

puncture anoint run and gun bistol drive by

[autumn vector]

single bullet?

[fleet zealot]

yep

and single bistol shot for flamers, shotgunners, scab gunners

it just doesn't get better

[autumn vector]

can you still one shit outside 12 meters?

errr

shot

one shot

[fleet zealot]

yes, everything but dreg gunner

but i'm not swapping to IJ

so it can go to hell

[robust nymph]

got teh perfect one on ym 4rd buy on my old main zealot

[autumn vector]

Still works, with gunner grouping

[fleet zealot]

i mean, fotf drive by is a strat now

[autumn vector]

You shud get the mod that makes 80% the full bar. More gudder.

[placid fiber]

did you use potato salad?

[robust nymph]

nop

[autumn vector]

Yesh

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/potato-salad-salad-food-gif-9937847189456659075

[robust nymph]

dont feel like it

[autumn vector]

lies

[fleet zealot]

i don't like potato salad

ngl

or egg salad

[placid fiber]

fair

[fleet zealot]

not a big mayo fan actually

[placid fiber]

I like mayo on lunch meat sandwiches, otherwise I don't eat a lot of it

[fleet zealot]

i'm going to play one game of zealot, get pissed that i have to do everything

and go back to vet

just watch

[autumn vector]

Eh... FNP on ogryn nerf still feels like a bit much after coming back to zealot. I'm not saying its optimal but you can get this much DR is a single build. Seems crazy to me.

[fleet zealot]

oh wait

[autumn vector]

eh

either way tbh

[fleet zealot]

no cause FNP is a single source

so it didn't have diminishing returns

hell i think at one point FNP just, didn't go into the Diminishing return calculation at all

[autumn vector]

It still doesn't quite do what it says on the tin

FNP that is

[fleet zealot]

all of zealot stuff is a separate source so it diminishes rapidly

and most of it is toughness

[placid fiber]

FNP oggy is just an extra tanky oggy... and oggy is already omega tanky

especially when built right

[fleet zealot]

shield of contempt is rarely taken, btfe is martyrdom only, and good balance is basically the only one most builds grab, and that's all the true/HP DR we have

meanwhile ogryn gets 20% true DR for free

[autumn vector]

No soc there.

[placid fiber]

I mean oggy is also a giant target as well

[autumn vector]

Thats all hur dur talents

[fleet zealot]

i'm listing the DR that applies to HP/All sources

[placid fiber]

that can't use cover as well

[autumn vector]

idk I just feel incredibly tanky on zealot

Ogryn to

But zealot is so fast

and dodge slides are crazy good

[fleet zealot]

zealot crumbles when toughness breaks right down to until death

[placid fiber]

even my heavy hitter build is extremely tanky on oggy

[fleet zealot]

ogryn doesn't

[sullen forge]

I mean Tbf who fucking doesn’t crumble when toughness breaks

[autumn vector]

I just dont find myself hitting those toughness breaks that often

[fleet zealot]

ogryn

[autumn vector]

unless im doing something bad

or stupid

like tanking a cursher overhead

[placid fiber]

Which an ogryn can do lol

[sullen forge]

The 7 gunners shooting the toughness broken Ogryn:

[fleet zealot]

tanking an crusher overhead is a zealot passage

[placid fiber]

I think I fucking tanked a crusher overhead on heresy with my gunlugger build and was still fine lol

[autumn vector]

Orgyn can for sure tank the crusher overhead, hes just massive, and cant run around like a meth head on speed

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile I'm dodging nets and sniper shots with the determination of a zealot lol

[autumn vector]

That being said I like zealot speed

So maybe I wont talk to much about that lol

dont nerf zealot speed kek

[placid fiber]

Zealot is faster, but, playing oggy like a zealot makes the oggy feel more nimble

oggy is honestly just a bigger and slower zealot

[autumn vector]

Pickaxes are fun

[placid fiber]

Vet? Ranged zealot. Psyker? Zealot with special tech

[lunar fable]

i haven't played ogryn in a while

last time i got on all my talent trees were reset

[autumn vector]

They did that after they balanced a few things on oggy

nerf? Balanced? However you want to say it

[placid fiber]

I play every class like a zealot lol

[autumn vector]

Melee psyker is fun

melee vet is also fun

[placid fiber]

When you play every class like a zealot... they can be fun lol

Melee oggy with a karsolas pickaxe is also fun

[autumn vector]

rashad vet with voc and recon las is pretty great

[placid fiber]

It's like a thammer, but, with a pointy end

[autumn vector]

You can turn it into a axe with the weapon customization mod

[placid fiber]

lol

Still I have 20% toughness back on every heavy that hits an enemy on my melee oggy

[lunar fable]

i got the mt mod but i don't see the option

[placid fiber]

1 enemy? toughness back. 2+ enemies? toughenss back

[lunar fable]

to turn the pick into an axe

[autumn vector]

Sorry to get so derailed, when you mean diminishing returns does the DR just not stack effectively or that it ticks off if you dont maintain it?

[placid fiber]

It means it has a lesser return value than if it was the only source iirc

[misty nova]

Mfw TWBS extra speed is perma proccing on Tox gas missions while the gas also 'conceals' me, making it hard for ranged units to shoot me down

[placid fiber]

basically like a 2nd gunner resist has diminishing returns

1st is -20% damage, 2nd is -20% of 80% damage, 3rd is -20% of 64% damage

[autumn vector]

Ohhh. I see.

Its calculate each dr seperately

[placid fiber]

multiple sources of dr are slightly less effective the more of them you have

[autumn vector]

so its not static it multiplicative

[placid fiber]

If they added together then it would be omega op

[autumn vector]

and FNP was just one massive source of DR

that makes sense

[placid fiber]

and then oggys have 20% true dr and 20% toughness dr

[spare talon]

someone commented on my solo auric 3veg with ds5 explaining to me why i should use ds4 instead of ds5

[placid fiber]

lol

[autumn vector]

There does seem to be a breakpoint on both classes where when you reach around 150+ toughness where chip damage almost disappears. Least thats what it feels like.

[spare talon]

like bro
i know what im doing
im not using ds4 on purpose

[rocky nacelle]

you beat that with luck

shoulda used ds4

woulda been faster

[placid fiber]

[spare talon]

it would have been faster yeah
cuz its damage output is completely beyond reason

[rocky nacelle]

you havent unlocked the last 5% of the DS's real power

[placid fiber]

I mean, it really is... even in my hands it is beyond reason... and I have extremely poor aim

I can tango with daemonhosts ffs and come out unscathed usually... and idk how to fight daemonhosts without a thammer

[grand tangle]

Ds mk5 is low key better than mk4

[sullen forge]

You guys should’ve used DS4 instead of DS2, why? Because I said so.

• random person you’ve never met before

[grand tangle]

You can build it to hit the same breakpoints with better movement

[placid fiber]

I mean that's mostly cause it has 2 dodge stats

[grand tangle]

Exactly

You can dump stat defenses instead of mobility

[placid fiber]

the problem is if you do that then cleave is dumped on other mks

[grand tangle]

And still hit all the important breakpoints

[grand tangle]

Cleave? On a dueling sword?

[placid fiber]

I mean on the mk2 you at least hit multiple horde enemies lol

[grand tangle]

Isnt it like 2.5

The value

[placid fiber]

I mean you're only really cleaving against horde enemies

[grand tangle]

The push attacks and mk2 have cleave

Not much else iirc

[pine osprey]

I am really intrigued by the 2 handed power sword though

[placid fiber]

I wonder if we'll get the bret sword movement with one of them

And the greatsword movement with one of the others

[grand tangle]

It's gonna be thammer movement or slower

[placid fiber]

sorry I meant moveset

as far as attacking goes

[grand tangle]

Ah

Didn't play vermintide

[pine osprey]

I look forward to comparing it to the great force sword

[placid fiber]

I could say that... but it'd be a slight bit of a lie... <_<'

[grand tangle]

One is gonna be clearly better and make the other class mad

[grand tangle]

Lmao

[pine osprey]

actually, vermintide 2 is 1 dollar 50 right now, should I get it?

[placid fiber]

I mean the power sword can easily hit crusher 2 shot breakpoints with the powered push attack into a light afterwards

both mks even

Needs power cycler tho

the mk6 does it better tho

[visual stream]

Good god

[grand tangle]

How do you 2hit crushers with mk3 ps

[visual stream]

It's a cool experience of its own, more grounded than Darktide

I prefer Darktide but it's pretty fun

[placid fiber]

idk, I hit it with a build I had with it and I can't remember how

[merry flume]

proofs

[pine osprey]

I guess there is the new PVP mode

[grand tangle]

Don't you fight rats with gatling guns

[placid fiber]

Yes lol

[visual stream]

On one specific subclass

But yes

[placid fiber]

No I think they mean the rats with gattling guns

the rattlings

[grand tangle]

No I mean the rats have gatling guns

[visual stream]

OH

Yes

I hate them

[grand tangle]

Grounded rat gatling guns

[pine osprey]

there is also a PVP mode where you can play as a rat

[visual stream]

Grounded in terms of combat, yeah

Grounded =/= realistic

[undone pewter]

I've been leveling in VT

I am so fucking bad at Sienna

[fleet zealot]

1 duelist sword zealot, one trauma duelist psyker zz

and spawns bug

fuckin

boring

yea caxe might be better than chaxe but it doesn't fucking invalidate it's existance like duelist does

[misty nova]

Pyromancer my beloved

[fleet zealot]

AND I still top damage cause and top special kills

i'm insane

[undone pewter]

goated ferret

[undone pewter]

i wish i got it

[fleet zealot]

i got netted once i'm washed up

[undone pewter]

I'll keep playing Witch Hunter captain

[undone pewter]

We're kicking you out the chat

[visual stream]

Relatable content in zealot chat today

[fleet zealot]

my audio acted up, dodged the first trapper, thought the trapper behind me was at a different angle

so i failed to dodge the double net attack

[light badge]

There is no greater freedom than putting the trapper in gay baby jail

(spawning a projectile eating dome on top of them)

[fleet zealot]

I prefer gay baby hell

[violet hornet]

okay what exactly is this shit

did that dog survive the initial knife, then die to puncture bleed on the first tick?

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah I think you bodyshot it

[violet hornet]

ah yeah that must have been it

[fleet zealot]

yes

i don't think throwing knife has enough stagger for a pouncing dog as well

so yea

[violet hornet]

the timing was so close I thought I killed it in one shot, but it still somehow landed the pounce before the knife hit

[robust nymph]

hey @fleet zealot with my build would it be easy to do just a flesh wound penance

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d93a4fe-1ae2-493f-926a-22f239885d58/my-attempt

[spare talon]

no

[robust nymph]

okay

[spare talon]

you never want martyrdom for flesh wound

[robust nymph]

a

could oy uplease give mea build that owuld be best for it

[plucky gate]

you want less wounds for flesh wound penance

[spare talon]

the requirement is to be under 1 wound for the majority of the mission, so every wound you have means the lower your health has to be

if you have no wounds, youd just need to be under half health

[autumn vector]

So like melk points are basically what good for mastery trash and plat?

[plucky gate]

I just use melk coins for curios

plan to have multiple sets of perfect curios for everyone just in case

[robust nymph]

i need a build that would be best for flesh wound penance

[autumn vector]

I dropped about 10k on curios

They were all shit

no 17%s

no stam 3s

[gray ice]

In regular progression melk bucks would be good for getting god rolls of weapons you haven't mastered

[plucky gate]

any decent build that doesn't have extra wounds would work

[autumn vector]

already got 17%

and stam 3 on zealot

but no

[spare talon]

if youre not using a crit weapon, probably this
this isnt specifically for flesh wound, its just the standard non crit IJ build

[autumn vector]

17%s on ogryn

or vet

and I havent played pysker in a hot second so idk what I have

Would be nice if their was a resource shop kek

[plucky gate]

i've probably spent like 60k melk coins on curios at this point

the odds do not seem good

[autumn vector]

buy plat with melk coins

[plucky gate]

there isn't really much else I need anyways

[clever swan]

i for one am saving my melk coins for...something

[undone pewter]

melk romance

[robust nymph]

why dont they allow to start solo games

[undone pewter]

because of woke idk

[clever swan]

because it costs money to run a server or something like that

[robust nymph]

could someone help me start eh private game

does party finder count as private game?

[undone pewter]

I guess if you made it one

[clever swan]

i think party finder is just how you join other people

[undone pewter]

private is in the mission menu then hit E

you can make it private through taht

need someone else though

[robust nymph]

ik that

[clever swan]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/176

this is all i know about

[grizzled aspen]

True solo means no penances either, btw.

[clever swan]

yeahhh you arent meant to play this game solo

[robust nymph]

i need someoen to join me so i can start the mission

[clever swan]

try the lfg channels

[robust nymph]

why did they make is need to be a private game if you cant even start a private game alone

[undone pewter]

it used to not be.

That wasn't good.

I'll help you start one

[robust nymph]

okay

[undone pewter]

code is in my name let me open the game

[heavy arch]

would u take puncture surgical or puncture deadly accurate on bistol

well nvm i dont even feel like ads that answers that

this thing is heckin sweet

[robust nymph]

sent

[undone pewter]

try again just got the mourning star

[frozen kernel]

Puncture + Surgical/Run n Gun

[heavy arch]

ya im trying run n gun right now

[frozen kernel]

That bleed is so nice, other two depend on how you wanna use it

[heavy arch]

its baller

[frozen kernel]

RnG gives you sick accuracy plus a small dmg bonus to one tap certain specials in close range

[heavy arch]

bistol needs a trijicon

[frozen kernel]

Surgical is nice to hit the one tap breakpoints if you sit back a bit more

If you’re on PC the weapon customization mod is pretty dope

I still prefer irons with the bistol but it made the Lucius las playable for my buddy because he hated the post sights

[violet hornet]

😬

guy had almost 7k damage taken in power DI

[undone pewter]

ggs @robust nymph

[robust nymph]

ggs

[undone pewter]

admittedfly didn't think we'd do it but

hey

oh it was 20 minutes

I thought it was 18

lol

[robust nymph]

thank god it wasent

[undone pewter]

we did it in 16:58

[robust nymph]

and all i got was a shredder pistol for the item

[undone pewter]

I got a curio

could be worse

[robust nymph]

yeah

[undone pewter]

anyway enjoy your drip

[robust nymph]

mhm

[misty ravine]

all I got was a shredder pistol
I got a curio
I got a rock

[spare talon]

join a civi
3 smite psykers
leave

[visual stream]

I remember I did mine on old Hab Dreyko with just a noob friend of mine

Definitely can not do it on new Hab

[sterile stone]

@sullen forge Check the cod shop, I think your bundle is in

[visual stream]

Well maybe but harder

[undone pewter]

Oh I enjoyed your 3 veg solo video you posted btw

Strange seeing you appear in my recommended though lol

[sullen forge]

Yeah I already got it

me and my son I abuse if he doesn't get me a beer out of the fridge quick enough

[sterile stone]

That shit looks wild

[sullen forge]

Its zombies

[median steeple]

shark

[sullen forge]

it literally does not bother me

[light badge]

made this yesterday, apparently

[sullen forge]

I'd say in MP ehh-

[sullen forge]

EXCUSE ME

[light badge]

thought I'd share with you autists

[sullen forge]

THAT IS FUCKING AWESOME

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-transformers-one-megatronus-orion-pax-d-16-gif-1212958912190315010

this is peak

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/meal-a-case-of-mistaken-identity-shark-vs-surfer-hungry-tiger-shark-gif-18890026

[median steeple]

creature

aEGH

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-shark-nibble-shark-bite-shark-chomp-sand-tiger-gif-7675202316987505233

[spare talon]

oh did it really lmao

[autumn vector]

So i'm sure they're actually pretty gud and im just biased as fuck but uh, anyone else find the base las guns boring?

[undone pewter]

Yeah it was funny I saw darktide and looked then epic Cole and I was thinking "I know that guy"

[undone pewter]

They're middle of the road alright but yeah dull

[sterile stone]

Nothing can eclipse the ranked skins

Them shits look fire

[gusty orbit]

they are definitely one of this game's guns to ever exist

[autumn vector]

I cant seem to find a reason to really use them

At all

I know they arre alright but

meh

[sullen forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC6A3rO9raI

Got the Dead Ops Arcade OST playing in the background whilst continuing to grind out the nebula camos

[gusty orbit]

yeah same, i haven't used one in game since i was leveling my first character

[sullen forge]

shit is getting tiring but we're getting really damn close

[autumn vector]

recon las go brrr. Column um go brrr. Last pistol go fast. I just cant be bothered. Even on vet.

[sterile stone]

I wanna get back onto ranked for the platinum outfit

[sullen forge]

Good fucking luck dude

with how kids are now-a-days im avoiding it like a disease

[sterile stone]

Oh nah

I'm super fucking glad that now I left bronze and silver ranks

I'm finally getting competent teammmates

[sullen forge]

its funny as hell cause like its

Incredibly bad players on low

and then you start having actually decent matches around the mid ranks

[visual stream]

Recon supremacy

[sterile stone]

I went on a fucking 14 loss streak before I hit gold 1

My mental state tanked so fucking hard

And I caught myself getting mad at everything

[visual stream]

Heavy pistols are AIGHT with ghost but meh-feeling otherwise

[sterile stone]

I had to remind myself shit ain't tht serious

But got damn bro

14 losses straight when I was top of the board 5 times

Pissed me off so much

Like all we had to do was play obj

But all I got was pub tdm players

[grand tangle]

Which primarch(s) do you picture having an american accent
Personally I think dorn, ferrus and maybe corvus

[visual stream]

Does it bring you more or less pain that the losses weren't your fault @sterile stone

[sterile stone]

More

[visual stream]

Attaboy

[gusty orbit]

honestly none of them

[sterile stone]

Losing when you're literally the top score and kills in a match

Hurts my soul so fucking much

And it reminds me that no matter how good you can be, a bad team can really bring you down

[hard nexus]

dorn will forever sound like tts voice in my head

but i think ferrus could sound american

like

[grand tangle]

Imagine a British corvus trying to say 'nevermore'

Edgar Allan poe was American btw

[sullen forge]

@sterile stone You know im curious

[gusty orbit]

jesus fucking christ lmao hahahahah

[sullen forge]

did you ever see the concept art layout of Shangri-La before it was supposed to come out

[gusty orbit]

said that in my main language and laughed even harder

[sullen forge]

like when it was in planning phase for BO1

[sterile stone]

No why?

[gusty orbit]

man i love how melodramatic everything in 40k is

[robust nymph]

does someone have a super tank zealot build or something similer

[sullen forge]

Drastically different and im surprised no one has made a custom map on it

[sterile stone]

Tbh I rarely played shang when it even dropped on BO1 I hated that map with a passion

[visual stream]

Shangri-La was one of my least favorite BO1 maps and I can't put my finger on why

[visual stream]

I loved the arcade twin stick shooter map though

[sullen forge]

this was their concept

[visual stream]

I miss it sometimes

[sullen forge]

they had for one of the rooms

[violet hornet]

Had a twitch streamer quit right at the finale of a run

I wonder if he was sick of watching me kill everything before he got there lol

[grand tangle]

I actually had to Google melodrama lmao

It fits very well tho

[sterile stone]

This looks like a Egyptian map

Like you're inside a pyramid

[sullen forge]

Look some of the concept shit they had that they scrapped was really fucking cool

The shrink gun went through like- 11 iterations lmao

before they decided on what it was on Shangri-La

[sterile stone]

The zombies they had in the release shang was interesting

Annoying

But interesting

Like the immolator and the shrieking zombie

[sullen forge]

You would've fucking despised the other concept ones

one moment I can get them

they punish CQC

[sterile stone]

I genuinely think there will never be a more annoying design in a horde shooter than an enemy that just pulls you into it

Looking at trappers

Looking at Amalgms

[sullen forge]

Personally I would've hated this

its the Nova 6 but worse

stay in it long enough it blinds you

[sterile stone]

Simple then

Don't train through it

Like you do with nova crawlers

[sullen forge]

Death it still spews out the smoke

so its just Nova 6 Crawlers but more annoying

[sterile stone]

Does the smoke damage you?

[sullen forge]

No its Impairing and then blinding

[opaque island]

mr almost 2k hours, what am i doing wrong in vermintide that im taking damage more than i feel like i should

[sullen forge]

supposedly their movement is like the Ascension Zombies

where they'd stagger and roll or take indirect paths towards you

[gusty orbit]

depends what stage of difficulty you are, but blocking at all times and checking your back every couple seconds helps

[opaque island]

its usually when im fighting off a horde ill take a hit here or there even though im push blocking and dodging etc

[gusty orbit]

was gonna mention that, it also comes to when is the damage dealt, for hordes it depends on character and weapon, and well, comes to getting the muscle memory as most weapons go 2-3 attacks, dodge 2 attacks, push (push attack if it has cleave) 2 attacks, rinse and repeat

it doesn't kick in instantly and there's always the possibility of getting hit because there are not iframes

[visual stream]

I think the only thing more annoying is an enemy without reliable sound cues

Which does overlap on occasion

[gusty orbit]

darktide spoils me badly with the spatial sound

[sterile stone]

Oh that's so fun isn't it

When so many enemies spawn it breaks sound ques

[visual stream]

When the poxburster makes so little noise from two feet around a corner that you only hear it when you go back to look at the recording

When the game prioritizes random infested guy #847's moaning attack noise over a specialist

[gusty orbit]

trapper only making a tiny bit of noise when shooting the net through 30 enemies

[sterile stone]

Lmao

Bro moans directly into your ear before hitting you with a rusty pipe

[gusty orbit]

hmmmm