zealot-class

[hard nexus]

i just saw someone in psyker chat say a build is good enough because they can do auric

and my first thought was

“auric is honestly pretty easy”

[hushed knoll]

WHY

[hard nexus]

this is evil

[light badge]

honk mimimi

[hearty nebula]

noobs

[sullen forge]

thanks I hate it

[light badge]

take a wild guess what his melee is

[opal star]

dueling sword

[opaque island]

yes, your perception of difficulty is warped, at least you can see it

[sullen forge]

I run that set up but what weapons cause thats the real decider

but I assume Plasma Dueling Sword

[lunar fable]

that would be very lame

[sullen forge]

I run Agri 9 VA + Heavy sword/Shovel

[lunar fable]

i was gonna run ix and rashad

next time i played my vet

[sullen forge]

do not.

with rashad.

Satan spawn

[autumn vector]

Recon las/Combat Axe, Voc. Why? Because recon las go brrrrrrrr and combat axe make fun choppy noise and screaming at bad teammates make them better.

Best vetbuild forme

[lunar fable]

i never used combat axes until a week before the crafting update

let me have my moment

[autumn vector]

No

Get new moment

new moment on 3rd

new thingy

[lunar fable]

not for vet

i only play my vet until weeklies are done on him

[autumn vector]

They get reworked powersword

so they can explode on melee and primary

big deal

big game play

[lunar fable]

psword is smelly

[autumn vector]

Poor vets

[lunar fable]

i actually tried recon las a few days ago

it's very low effort when you possess the mental capacity to use your melee too

(impossible for vet pugs)

[fleet zealot]

it's true tho

at least bugged ones

an unbugged auric hishock or similar is really nice difficulty

[opaque island]

you gotta realize most people are not at a gaming skill level that auric is honestly pretty easy

you are not the average

[zinc talon]

the other players in the team are usually so much more skilled in auric matchmaking that aurics can legvitimately be easier than say a normal 5 you're having to clutch and carry twice a mission]

[opaque island]

actually, this might be what is giving this idea

[zinc talon]

auric gauntlets are my perfect speed, hi shocks can get a lil skullfucky if the director has their panties in a bunch

but auric gauntlets, those feel like darktide should

[sullen forge]

I think we're hitting near the ceiling of physical player skill vs build skill + player skill

cause im in the same boat

Aurics feel like casual to me now lmao

[zinc talon]

and I'm unsure there's anything that can be done about it

cuz where does the difficulty come from if you want to increase it

faster enemies, which means more ping-centric

[light badge]

OH MY GOD GUYS I FOUND AN ACTUAL SYNERGY FOR TOUGHNESS REGEN

[zinc talon]

hitting harder, which, we're alreaedy in oneshot overhead territory for all 3 smalls

more enemies, which the game engine can't handle

[light badge]

BUBBLE FOR WHATEVER FUCKING REASON COUNTS YOU AS IN 2 COHERENCY MINIMUM

[sullen forge]

Shhhhhhh

[zinc talon]

bubble always gives toughness regen

at a flat rate, it says in the tooltip I think

[sullen forge]

Dont enable the ogryn mains......

LMAO

[light badge]

it says it's percentage based

[zinc talon]

oh!

[opaque island]

thats why havoc is coming out right, they're using modifiers

[south grove]

I don't have nitro anymore

man

I can't post the stickers

[zinc talon]

I think so yeah

[hard nexus]

yeah because now 90% of the time i go down it’s solely because of a bug or a silent trapper or silent overhead or whatever

[zinc talon]

I'm hazy on the 'why' of havoc other than to give us gigachads something new to chew on

[south grove]

can someone reteach me chain weapons

I forgot when to rev

[zinc talon]

which weapon

[hard nexus]

bosses crushers

and

mutants

that’s it really

[south grove]

alr

ty

[hard nexus]

well

it depends also which chain weapon

chain sword?

evis?

[light badge]

ok someone please check me on this as I'm not sober

[zinc talon]

if it's not an evis, you rev to stun things you canb't normally stun

as in, a revved heavy hit from a 1h axe or sword will stun a crusher out of his overhead

[light badge]

90% toughness regen, on bubble

with and without

[sterile stone]

@modern lintel I need to get to pripyat so I can get my pay to win exo suit, someone took a screenshot of the stats of it

[zinc talon]

yeah let's see it

[hard nexus]

chainsword, at least mk13g, requires a crit to stagger a crusher

[zinc talon]

oof, good correction

that woulda gotten tin killed and he woulda blamed himself

[opaque island]

okay, i need to check myself here, is auric damnation easier than normal board damnation, because of the teamates being better in general?

[hard nexus]

so does mk15 evis

[zinc talon]

I think so anyway, Josh

[hard nexus]

in part yah

[zinc talon]

the relative skill of the players makes up for it for sure

[opaque island]

cause in my mind as someone who still struggles with damnation when i do try it, in my mind auric damnation is just gonna be harder

[modern lintel]

i have a reg suit rn that has more physical protection tbh exos arent worth it at all w no sprint

[zinc talon]

they're harder in a 1v1 sense, sure

you're gonna have to dance more if it's just you and that crusher

but auric damnation doesn't put you in the position to be just you and that crusher

cuz the team will be there

I think they're a ton easier provided PEOPLE STAY IN COHERENCY REEEEEEEEE ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hard nexus]

coherency ?

coherency is useless

tbh

[sterile stone]

You can get sprint on them

Well like 1

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-gif-20749781

[sterile stone]

And that's the diamond one

[south grove]

sword

sorry for the late reply

had to get the mail

[fleet zealot]

coherency is just icing on a cake

it's completely unneeded compared to line of sight

[modern lintel]

i had the duty curaiss one and couldnt sprint in it

[zinc talon]

I say coherency not cuz of toughness regen per se

[fleet zealot]

you can be in coherency but behind a wall/corner and it is infinitely worse than being out of coherency but staying in line of sight

[zinc talon]

I say it cuz if the team is in coherency, you're two steps away from each other and can pivot to new threats

as a group and not by yourself

[sterile stone]

You need the Diamond exosuit, and you only get that progressing the story

Diamond is the best non-edition exo in game

[fleet zealot]

game has backstab alert noises tbh

[sterile stone]

There's a upgrade you can find that lets you sprint in it aswell

[zinc talon]

yeah one exosuit will always allow for sprint, at least in every single stalker title I've played and beaten

[fleet zealot]

and I don't trust pubs with my back and you can block 360

[modern lintel]

also do you know where to find an acog yet looking for one rn

[hard nexus]

mk13g? i know nothing of the mk4

mk13g is a bit more finicky

[zinc talon]

heh pretty good barn

[sterile stone]

I've only found holos and 2x scopes

[modern lintel]

iv found a couple pso scopes but no acog yet

[sterile stone]

I'm looking for the drum mag mod for the saiga

[obsidian prairie]

I know you can block 360 but I never do it because vermintide

[hard nexus]

i wish

that

stalker 2

was like good

please fix the ai !!!!

[obsidian prairie]

Also the silly BS of looking at enemies while reviving reduces Stam cost

[hard nexus]

please !!!

it’s so boring!!!!

[modern lintel]

i got a named spas 12 last night prob stick w it for a while toll saiga prob

[south grove]

mk4 because mk13g seems a bit too powerful

[hard nexus]

test to see if you can stagger a crusher on a crit heavy rev headshot

i know mk13g can’t

idk about the 4

also tell me how much damage it does

[south grove]

so do I just FOTF into it

or do I hit it first then FOTF

[lunar fable]

how's the newer chaxe

[hard nexus]

that

[lunar fable]

i've barely used that one

[zinc talon]

rev, start chambering your heavy

fotf while it's charging

[sterile stone]

Only found 1 saiga and that was on my Ward playthrough before I got softlocked

[zinc talon]

release on head

[hard nexus]

no

[zinc talon]

oh

what she said

[hard nexus]

rev, attack, while sawing, then chastise

[zinc talon]

oh?

[sterile stone]

Surprisingly I've experienced less bugs going the loner route

[zinc talon]

huh.

[hard nexus]

that way the rending applies to the damage ticks and the rip damage

[modern lintel]

idk if its possible but im prob siding w spark on first play through

[hard nexus]

let’s mk3 evis one shot a crusher

it also gives you a second attack with crit and rending

[zinc talon]

well I'll be damned

yep checks out her way not my way

[hard nexus]

which is nice on mk3 because with duelist

u can deal i think

1600 damage

on l1

to a crusher

[sterile stone]

Spark is Scar's guys right?

[modern lintel]

yea scars the leader

[zinc talon]

he is skeptical, but intrigued

[hard nexus]

there’s a reason i got this badge….

[zinc talon]

ha

[hard nexus]

takes long drag of cigarette

[modern lintel]

mark of the beast

[sterile stone]

I like the all black fit he can get

[zinc talon]

there it issss

[sterile stone]

I just wish I knew where you could get it

[sullen forge]

Give it a few months and I'll start posting Jawsome 🚬

[hard nexus]

mark of the kitty

[sterile stone]

Cause I've seen people wear it aswell

[zinc talon]

wait....scar....

that name rings a bell

wasn't that the character's name in clear sky?

[hard nexus]

no he’s from the lion king

it’s a crossover

[sullen forge]

true

[hard nexus]

didn’t u hear

[sterile stone]

Yeah

He went crazy

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/thelionking-lionking-mufasa-longlivetheking-scar-gif-20263689

how he became spark's leader

[sterile stone]

Tl;DR

Monolith split apart after previous stalker game

And divided into spark and noontide

[zinc talon]

huh. the tooltip said something about spark being formed out of a merc company? or something?

the one that ends with 'you can probably guess why' or 'you can probably guess what they're doing now'

[sterile stone]

The mercs exists in stalker 2

[modern lintel]

spark is just the remnants of clear sky i thought

[sterile stone]

They just aren't as prominent as before

[sterile stone]

Clear Sky died out entirely

[zinc talon]

good riddance

dumb game

[sterile stone]

That entire faction died at the ending sequence of clear sky

[cerulean moth]

aw

[zinc talon]

the ONLY stalker title I got like, two maps deep and just nope'd right out of

if that was your first stalker title I'm glad you're here now

but call of pripyat was so vastly superior in terms of them finally getting all the Alife stuff working

[sterile stone]

Owned shadow of cherno, never played it

[zinc talon]

prolly for the best tbh

[sterile stone]

First stalker game I actually got into was anomaly

[zinc talon]

you had to love that game to enjoy it

[south grove]

after the hit latched on it didn't stagger, FOTF staggered it

[sterile stone]

I'm glad to see that Stalker 2 is basically a visually upgraded anomaly

[zinc talon]

oh no doubt

GSC took notes for sure

[sterile stone]

I swear I saw somewhere that anomaly modders are helping with stalker 2 aswell

[zinc talon]

more people played anomaly and call of chernobyl than ever even b ought copies of the first 3

[south grove]

1104 on bodyshot

[zinc talon]

I betcha they jumped at the chance

talk about validation

the game you've spent years modding as a labor of love sends you an email, hey how did you get this thing to work?

[sterile stone]

I mean that kinda seems like a end goal for a modder

[zinc talon]

HERE IS EVERYTHING I HAVE EVER DONE

[sterile stone]

Get big enough that the devs hire you on as a actual developer

[modern lintel]

i have all 3 but havent played any for longer then like 3 hours

[zinc talon]

this, bethsoft did this

they held a con of some kind where it was all about, what can you mod skyrim to do

and then they hired all the contest winners

[sterile stone]

I think they hired one of the modders that makes outfits

[zinc talon]

or some, or most, idk that was a decade ago

[sterile stone]

Leonora I think

She's super talented

[zinc talon]

oh, well that's less fun

the con had some really cool things, like, they figured out how you can get water to 'pick up' items that you drop in a river or something

and then figured out how to get that river to 'flow' as it bent around terrain

so the item would seem to be carried by the current

and then they never did anything with it

oh well

glad to see GSC isn't taking that tack

[sterile stone]

Speaking of Bethesda

Fallout 76 is getting a update next year that allows players to play as ghouls

[zinc talon]

wait until character customization comes out

'well she LOOKS like a fourteen year old girl but AKSHULLY she's a two hundred fifty year old ghoul'

intriguing though

ghouls don't take radiation damage, like ever

[sterile stone]

They don't

Buuuut

[zinc talon]

in NV I think radiation even fed or healed the green glowy ones

the ones that were an actual threat

[sterile stone]

Hanging in radiation can give them severe brainrot if they stay in it too long

And eventually they can turn feral

[zinc talon]

ah. so there's the feral angle

[sterile stone]

That's a mechanic that's coming aswell

Instead of dying to radiation poisoning

You risk your ghoul player going feral and attacking random people

I think it's still a wip concept tho

[golden rain]

Glowing Ones are generally feral, given how they'd have to be in severe areas of radiation for extended periods of time to be so radioactive as to be luminescent

[zinc talon]

now I'm curious if there's the bethsoft token character like masgharm bughtlrarn or whatever

the fat corprus dwemer

are there smart glowing ones?

[golden rain]

There technically... HAS been one.

[sterile stone]

So funny you mention this

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/well-there-it-is-blelele-jeff-goldblum-gif-24075039

[sterile stone]

There's perk cards specifically based around your ghoul behing heavily irradiated and healing other ghouls around them

And offloading your radiation into massive damage spikes

[zinc talon]

perk cards? from.....

76 right

[sterile stone]

Yep

[zinc talon]

well that sounds like a ton of potential fun

[quick fog]

No perk cards from DT

New update

[zinc talon]

I never gave 76 the chance it didn't deserve

[quick fog]

DT becomes FO76

[golden rain]

Okay actually ngl, from a gameplay perspective, that's kind of a fucking sick loop potential right there.

[zinc talon]

yeah really

you could enslave feral ghouls ghoul players to go into the mines and bring up shit

[sterile stone]

Lemme screen some of the cards

Or better yet

Here's the yt link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6zfE26Zgus

[zinc talon]

expend a small amount of GLOW

ok it's its own metric free from radiation

[sterile stone]

There's a perk card for ghouls that make them immune to being staggered

[zinc talon]

radiation will still probably kill as it always has

cuz you're a smart ghoul or something

[golden rain]

As much as I despise modern Bethesda, I will admit that this makes me wonder about the prospect of playing as a Super Mutant/Nightkin somehow.

[opal star]

balance reasons I'd imagine

with how they got pvp over there n shit

[golden rain]

As a New Vegas stan myself, I always wanted to delve into that prospect

[sterile stone]

Getting randomly clocked by a nightkin appearing infront of you

With a rusty stop sign

[faint prairie]

Force claymore lets gooooooooo

[nimble fiber]

clarence claymore!

[zinc talon]

new vegas is easily, comfortably one of the top 5 games ever made

and I will die on this hill

[obsidian prairie]

Avowed is going to be so peak

[south grove]

I hear 76...

I don't think I can get back to that game

[zinc talon]

ATSA LAD

PROPPA WEPPIN

I never gave it the chance it absolutely didn't deserve at release

[south grove]

I used to be a member of that community

[zinc talon]

but I did finally fire it up maybe six months ago

[nimble fiber]

bet? its comin to gamepass so I might check it out

[south grove]

the trade market crashed

I basically lost all my assets 😭

[zinc talon]

six months ago it played and felt great

[south grove]

too scared to go back and see how much I own

[zinc talon]

I stole some dude's power armor he foolishly put on a rack to service in the newbie area

good times

[obsidian prairie]

Advertises as obsidian rpg with vermintide inspired combat

Is a black powder tier high magic fantasy

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/django-django-unchained-leo-django-leonardo-dicaprio-dicaprio-calvin-gif-6625993172044373564

[obsidian prairie]

It’s actually obsidian btw my wording was weird

[zinc talon]

some really really great stuff coming over the horizon

[nimble fiber]

ok call me intrigued

[zinc talon]

funcom's releasing dune in...februrary?

[hearty nebula]

you can tell just by looking at this image lmao

like

[nimble fiber]

bear

[hearty nebula]

just the way the viewmodel looks

makes it super obvious

[obsidian prairie]

It’s an actual heavy attack

[zinc talon]

bethsoft devs "write that down, write that down'

[obsidian prairie]

Instead of that slow as hell fallout/skyrim bullshit

[zinc talon]

I remember the bear attack being super super quick in skyrim

with the same paw-up-like-that^ animation

[hearty nebula]

it was

[zinc talon]

ah rgr

[hearty nebula]

they didn't mean the enemy attacks tho

they meant like

the player character's

[obsidian prairie]

Yeah, swinging anything heavy in either game feels terrible

It’s slow and unimpactful

[zinc talon]

good god

have yall seen scavengers reign on netflix

what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

[opaque island]

its pretty good isnt it

did you finish it or just start it

[zinc talon]

working through the pilot now

I love/hate it

the animation is a style I haven't seen since akira at least

[opaque island]

bro i cant connect to a game in vermintide right now, i keep timing out, what am i trying to connect to china or something

I love the alien fauna and how the people use it

[zinc talon]

Its so seamless

I get they've been there a while and know what's what but

There's no hesitation or scared trembling touching

Its so dare I say organic

As silly as it sounds my cat is enthralled

When I first got her she was real skittish cuz she was abandoned in a home and almost started, but what got her out so we could bond was nature documentaries

Shed see the cats and birds etc and eventually everything else followed

She has no idea what to make of this show

Cuz its all cats and birds and people in her brain but nothing at all makes any sort of evolutionary sense

[rocky nacelle]

do ya still want to in a bit

[autumn vector]

So it there a way to make the DB as good as this but on zealot?

Combat shotguns feel bad to me

Double barrel im undecided

[obsidian prairie]

Dbarrel is best on vet

[autumn vector]

But I like the kickback and if i can make it as good as kickback

[obsidian prairie]

Weapon spec enables it so fucking hard

[autumn vector]

ill give it a go on vet then I guess. Combat shotguns on shouty seems pretty medicore. You can use it but why would you? Double kind of feels similar but i dont have max mastery yet

[obsidian prairie]

Run Manstopper + scattershot/Flechette on a weapon spec setup with a single target melee

Dbarrel is your horde clear

[hard nexus]

yes because it needs to crit

fotf staggers it because it’s a crit

[obsidian prairie]

It handily demolishes literally everything but carapace and unyielding

[sour oxide]

You don’t dump me I dump you

[hard nexus]

not because it’s fotf stagger

because it doesn’t stagger crushers

[misty nova]

Agripina is peak
You just need to ads and aim for the head

You can basically be Gun Zealot

Anoint in Blood Duelist

[zinc talon]

Aggrippina is just a gateway drug to bolter

Which i am totally here for use the agrip

[sour oxide]

I don’t always bolt.pistol but when I do I make sure to deal with the jank animations when shooting from hip to shooting from ads.

[mental coral]

i forget what does hi int vs shock trooper gauntlet do again?

Cuz i just got matched into a low int shock trooper gauntlet

[sour oxide]

I’ve always seen high intense as the light version high intense shock troop

[hard nexus]

@south grove https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j9wmqAAuyRCPhWjYE?invite=cr-MSxBTVYsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[misty nova]

High Intensity would also raise the cap on active specialist and lower the cooldown between special spawns

[hard nexus]

bloodthirsty to force a crit

it is not chastise that staggers it

[south folio]

some numbers i collated a while ago; potentially outdated

[sour oxide]

Something about that just sounds ass backwards

[rocky nacelle]

Dreg bomber, fnaf 2 ambience

[south folio]

oh yeah, those got added

[hard nexus]

i think dreg bomber is the same as scab, ive only seen a max of 4 dreg bombers at once

and itd line up with the scab and dreg flamers being the same too

so its safe 2 assume they're identical

[south folio]

probably

[hard nexus]

what

i used bloodthirsty to force a crit

to show off the crit staggering the crusher

[sour oxide]

Is that the wep rev one?

[hard nexus]

yeah

its bad

on all chain weapons except mk15 evis

[sour oxide]

Doesn’t it give your next attack a crit

[hard nexus]

yes

[sour oxide]

Ah you have to kill with the attack darn

[heavy arch]

hi what blessings for bistol

[sterile basalt]

Oh wait that might actually cook?

[visual stream]

Tbf heavies in FNV feel pretty rewarding

I had no idea Avowed existed until now, sounds cool

[visual stream]

I think uhh puncture and something else

[wanton storm]

Is there any mode that i could write name on "builds" i make ?. atm i could just have icon, but i forgett so fast what is what 😛

[placid fiber]

for me I generally use the same icons for specific types of builds across all characters

Ammo icon? Ranged build. Shield? Defensive/marty build. Fist? Damage/chastise build

[spare talon]

Look up loadoutnames on nexus

[wanton storm]

thank

[sour oxide]

so is it just me or do the people who say how easy the game is tend to also be the same people running spidey sense, scan/decode/tree helper, ahk macros or a combination of any of those mods?

[placid fiber]

Easy? lol the game can fuck you up at any second if you let your guard down

Sure you can be op enough to melt everything, but, 1 mess up and you're dead

[gusty orbit]

people who boast about how easy the game is are a 1% demographic that doesn't relate to how really easy or hard darktide is

[placid fiber]

I'm not within the top 1%, but, I might be within the top 5%

[sour oxide]

im not talking about the size of the demographic I just am noticing a trend.

[placid fiber]

only since I am good at clutching, tho

Otherwise I would say the top 10% for me

I just have no interest in running top level challenges

[sour oxide]

really have no idea where I would rank in terms of player base or if you could really make that determination since every match is unique.

[placid fiber]

not with randos anyway

[sullen forge]

this fucker @south grove made me see a veteran build that made me so upset, I literally quit farming camos on zombies, got on darktide to literally just slightly tweak it

[gusty orbit]

hmm no, people running cheat stuff isn't a super trend or norm, they exist of course, mostly psykers using quell cancel macro, but other than that not enough to call it trend, for me at least

[sullen forge]

holy shit Veterantism is one hell of a drug

[placid fiber]

I mean I couldn't really, it's just there's enough players that played darktide that I know I am somewhere in the upper %

I just am not within the highest tier since I don't push myself that far in the game, nor do I want to most of the time. I just play to have fun

[sour oxide]

true true it just kinda dawned on me lol

[sour oxide]

The most fun I have is when I lose tbh.

[placid fiber]

The only thing I really use is spidey sense due to poor quality headphones

[placid fiber]

I have the most fun when we win, generally

Which is why I push myself to clutch

Like that auric maelstrom I was dragged into on my oggy was rough man

This plus 180 ping

and I had to solo clutch...

[light badge]

Surge staff or Trauma better for melee?

[placid fiber]

God damn that was an adrenaline rush, we won

[sour oxide]

yeah but when you look back on the clutches you failed you realize that you played out of your mind and made one mistake and got out played.

[gusty orbit]

i've learned to have fun when losing but when the lost game was director throwing a nuclear bomb on the map and making it unbeatable, i don't have too much fun when my teammates die to chaff and the loss is just a meh

[placid fiber]

I don't really remember matches I lost, nor do I remember most clutches... I just know the most fun overall I've had is when we won

[sour oxide]

you just need to be more stubborn to die lol

[south grove]

you wanna know the secret ingredient to my ragebait pie?

[placid fiber]

Like... 90% of that auric maelstrom run I remember nothing of

[sour oxide]

not play veteran?

[gusty orbit]

remembering specific matches for a long time is kinda crazy, i just hop on play and that's it lol

[placid fiber]

Shieldgryn

[gusty orbit]

just gotta be born with thick skin

[sour oxide]

I mean I have my favorites but I guess thats just because they are saved in vods.

[south grove]

he's tanner's friend

that was the secret ingredient

[zinc talon]

goddamn that show is weird

I love it

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/summon-gif-20561346

[sour oxide]

so you're rage biting the rage bait content. you are a master baiter

[zinc talon]

some maps, some directors will just do that

it is possible to do everything right and still lose

that's not weakness, that's life

[sour oxide]

I refer to it as the "fck you button"

[zinc talon]

that is not a ferret that is a wolf

[sour oxide]

why scarf have only 1 foot?

[placid fiber]

Eh... I get that mentality, but, I don't want to let my team down so I push myself harder when I have to solo clutch

[gusty orbit]

yeah shit happens, like when the director decides to spawn 3 dreg bombers in hard to reach places, non stop mutants and trappers, and infinite elites

[placid fiber]

I know I can fail to 1 mistake, but, I fight tooth and claw to survive

[zinc talon]

so there's a theory I'm almost certain of

regarding auric males

maels*

the director has x number of timers, with which to throw things at you

[sour oxide]

oh god and you feel yourself slowly getting closed off in the corner...then comes the mutant

[zinc talon]

call it 5

all these timers reset when it spawns a dog pack special wave etc etc

and each of those things it can throw at you has its own timer, but it has 5 slots to tal to fil

[gusty orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/no-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-anime-goku-gif-17968002

that feeling

[zinc talon]

when the auric mael, only has 2 conditions, it has more slots than things it can choose from

and that's when it starts t od ouble and triple up on you

[placid fiber]

Then comes the rock

[sour oxide]

you seem to know an awful lot about the AI director CousinOkri.....or should I CALL YOU MR AI DIRECTOR!

[zinc talon]

Cousin Rockri is handsome and strong

[gusty orbit]

afaik maelstrom director is different from aurics, so anything goes lmao

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/vagrant-queen-syfy-vagrants-vagrant-lazaro-gif-16969311

[placid fiber]

God damn tho, auric maelstrom is really hard on me mentally cause I have to beat at the top of my game in order to not immediately die

[sour oxide]

imma scooby doo meddleing kids that avatar right off your profile.

[zinc talon]

rofl

I'm just convinced when the auric mael only has 1-2-3 special conditions

that's when the director defaults to throwing umpteen brazilian things at you

that's when you get the triple netters, double dog packs etc

[sour oxide]

damn the brazilian things are the hardest

[placid fiber]

[gusty orbit]

also on certain maelstrom conditions im convinced the specialists just literally don't stop spawning, way more than a histg

[zinc talon]

suddenly the horde is doing capoiera and break dance kicking you in the face

[placid fiber]

That's called: Silo Cluster

[sour oxide]

yeah I do notice there are different levels of sub spices within the spice that is auric maelstrom

[placid fiber]

Silo cluster is one where they almost never stop throwing shit at you

[sour oxide]

you mean hope you brought a gun cluster

[zinc talon]

some maps it can be an event thing too

think, the throneside? map where you have to collect the two power cells to open the bridge

[sour oxide]

god I hate that bride opening with a dagger

[zinc talon]

that one will spawn neverending enemies on a timer, which is shorter than it takes for you to kill them

[placid fiber]

I still think I have ptsd from that auric maelstrom that we won

[gusty orbit]

ah good old enclavum baross, the reworked event is a trial of fire tbh

[zinc talon]

so you can literally get flooded to the point you can't kill them as quickly as they're spawning

and they choke the room

[misty ravine]

"Merely High Intensity and Shock Trooper Gauntlet? More like, High Intensity and Shock Trooper Gauntlet, Shock Trooper Gauntlet, Shock Trooper Gauntlet, and Shock Trooper Gauntlet"

I can see it

[placid fiber]

I can still remember the stress like it's fresh

[sour oxide]

back in the day you could run a BM tac axe and just ladder camp

now you gotta move all over the damn place

[zinc talon]

lol the fuckin ladder spawns

I'd forgotten

[sour oxide]

lol you'd shoot a revolver into like 50 of them climbing up

and a wave of bodies

[placid fiber]

Oh yeah the ladder spawns lol

[gusty orbit]

that was fun lmao

live cleave testing

[placid fiber]

I remember those on enclavum baross

[misty ravine]

I am glad they reworked a bunch of maps to combat the Planetside 2 levels of Spawn Camp Meta

[sour oxide]

now...the trap door opens at your feet and you got 5 shotgunners jabbing you with the guns

[zinc talon]

yeah really

[sour oxide]

whiel youre stuck in the trap door

[gusty orbit]

refinery delta 17 cough cough

[zinc talon]

oh god, ascension riser manholes

[placid fiber]

I mean I am glad they reworked it because door camping was boring

[zinc talon]

thought the room was clear? did you bother to check UP YOUR ASS!?

CUZ THATS WHERE THEYJUST SPAWNED

[placid fiber]

Whoever was on door duty was bored af

[zinc talon]

I will tolerate no smelter level slander in this house of the god emperor

that is absolutely hands down my favorite mission

[sour oxide]

I love ascension riser. Especially when you go down the rabbit hole into alice and wonderland (aka the train tunnels) and suddenly u are taller than an ogryn crusher

[placid fiber]

I wasn't slandering smelter

I was slandering the one desert map

where you gotta do the thing at the end

[zinc talon]

for this reason specifically

[placid fiber]

with the machine

[zinc talon]

oh okay

[placid fiber]

the auspex

[zinc talon]

yes that one is deserving of scorn

[placid fiber]

it was literally door camping for days

[zinc talon]

oh this is metalfab 36 isn't it

[placid fiber]

might be

I can't remember the name

[sour oxide]

no wonder the moebian steel hasn't been what it was....you got okri pushing shit in the slag.

[zinc talon]

I just love playing golf-but-still-somehow-more-violent with enemies at the end

MAULER?

MORE LIKE

FALLER

HAAHWAHAWHAWHAW

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-dead-death-pose-falling-off-the-stairs-gif-12021772962162421355

[zinc talon]

if I'm in a pug and we get there I shout 'new rule: most enemies in the lava wins'

[gusty orbit]

smelter complex got good with the finale rework

[zinc talon]

and then they have to scrap the metal and start over cuz of too much uh....carbon....getting into the steel

[placid fiber]

I'm glad so many of them got reworked

They are much more fun

[sour oxide]

its all fun and games until you get nudged by a passing mutant charging and end up in the sauc e

[placid fiber]

You gotta think more

[gusty orbit]

still waiting for a full rework of the first 1/3 of silo cluster tho

[placid fiber]

Except hab dreyko... that's... about the same lol

[sour oxide]

I love me a hab dreyko

[placid fiber]

At least they didn't fuck with the escape ending

[sour oxide]

it was the first map I played and I didn't have a clue what the hell was going on.

[placid fiber]

that is awesome

[zinc talon]

the new dreyko fight is so much better than it used dto be

[misty nova]

Silo Cluster

[gusty orbit]

gotta love people not doing the phage tree event, makes hab dreyko a long mission when it's one of the shortest lol

[placid fiber]

I mean I would but the randos are all dying to the 1 rager on them

[zinc talon]

speaking of dreyko

[placid fiber]

[sour oxide]

I purposely go on strike as a stealth zealot during the tree.

unsafe working conditions

[placid fiber]

I mean I don't do hab dreyko unless I'm on my oggy or a zealot tbh

[gusty orbit]

either dying or they're not covering me and im getting interrupted lmao

[zinc talon]

if you look carefully you can see how to kill your reload animation early on the bolt pistol

and shave a second off the time

[placid fiber]

Just do zealot or oggy, and don't get interrupted

twbs prevents interruption

[gusty orbit]

yeah let me tank 10 enemies hitting me while doing the puzzle real quick xd

[placid fiber]

Pretty much

[zinc talon]

yknow I only learned ogri don't get knocked off auspexes like, last month

this whole time I've been standing there doing nothing thinking I'm protecting the guy doing it

[gusty orbit]

[zinc talon]

when I could be doing it mself

[placid fiber]

I've known about it for ages

[sour oxide]

you role playing an ogryn irl bru?

[obsidian prairie]

Bruiser HP bars

pain

[zinc talon]

more like, they saw me drunkenly staggering through downtown stockholm and the lead fatshark dev was like WAIT.

I have the inspiratiuon for the 4th character class

what if we made him pure of heart

and dumb of ass

[placid fiber]

God damn you can aim WAY better than I can lol

[zinc talon]

it was to test my oneshot reliability against them

turns out it's the unarmored ones that can survive a round, not anything in flak

[placid fiber]

My accuracy is like... 1/4th as good as yours at best

[zinc talon]

thank you

it's just on the bolt pistol too

I swear to god that gun has magnetic bullets or something

[placid fiber]

I'd miss 2/3rds of those shots lol

[zinc talon]

a big thing that really upped my %s

is instead of left/right with my mouse, which naturally injects some up down too

I'll find a stable vector for the shot

and strafe into left/right with A and D

[placid fiber]

and move left and right instead?

Yeah

[zinc talon]

yis

[placid fiber]

I saw that, that's a smart move

[gusty orbit]

this ogryn is getting way too intelligent

you're unveiling the secrets of darktide aiming

[placid fiber]

He's smarter than 4/5ths of darktide gamers lol

and I mean the smarter ones

[gusty orbit]

also that kind of strafe aiming is how im getting decent at using knives, i cant mouse aim much for shit in this game

[zinc talon]

you can see me mouse aiming on the last shot in that clip

https://tenor.com/view/crusader-crusader3455-wow-spazz-out-beast-mode-gif-25970151

[opaque island]

im glad im not the only one that struggles iwth fine aiming on a mouse

[zinc talon]

and my sensitivity is pretty low, all things considered

I have to pick up and replant my mouse after spinning 180

but, I (get your hatemail ready) play with mouse acceleration on

so the faster I move it, the more exponential the movement increase

which is great to me anyway for precision vs huge movements

[sterile stone]

@modern lintel I did the money exploit

I chose to not be impoverished anymore

[sullen forge]

Exploding

https://tenor.com/view/shark-shark-nibble-shark-bite-shark-chomp-sand-tiger-gif-7675202316987505233

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meow-silly-cat-cat-explode-yellow-cat-gif-12654556298327310612

[zinc talon]

'no. mine'

[visual stream]

Comms-Plex finale make me fall asleep

If I ever play it I think I will shrimply play up to the finale then leave

[placid fiber]

Just play with randos... they can make anything interesting lol

[zinc talon]

I never played past the brain scorcher in army warehouses in stalker:SoC

I am not here for the zombified assholes that drop grenades when they die

I am here to vibe in the bar

[zinc talon]

ok I just realized, I'm not saying the thing here

but that shark, is fat

I have never seen a truly fat shark before

[sullen forge]

Dont fat shame them

https://tenor.com/view/shark-shark-nibble-shark-bite-shark-chomp-tiger-shark-gif-11459742140017195665

[zinc talon]

hey man means they're good at what they do, I respect it

fun fact

shark brains cannot pump blood effectively when they're upside down

so every shark everywhere goes totally docile if you spin them

and hold em belly up

that diver in the gif was stuck on the seafloor from the weight of his gigantic brass balls

[placid fiber]

Yep, that's how orcas hunt sharks

[zinc talon]

oh yeah?

[gusty orbit]

bro was like aight lemme sharkfu this mf real quick

[placid fiber]

They only eat the liver of the sharks as well

[sullen forge]

Yes it makes me MAD

ANGRY

[placid fiber]

As it should

Fuck those guys

or smthing like that...

[brazen umbra]

Still no news on the new weapons

[gusty orbit]

probably the last 5 days before the update or so

[zinc talon]

I haven't really seen anything absolutely game breaking in stalker tbh

but I haven't gotten very far

only thing I've heard people talking about is occasional insta crashes but nothing repeatable

[placid fiber]

Just do what I do and play rogue lites instead

[obsidian prairie]

Level 256

Killing them

[placid fiber]

A week and a half and I got 56% of the way done with rogue legacy 2, as far as achievements went

[modern lintel]

id never feel like itd ruin the experience of struggling also this is the armor im running rn

[zinc talon]

that's a pretty top tier no-dump-stat crusher

I've been trying to line up dump stat-less weapons on my most used types

I have a shield that's 75/76/76/77/77

[modern lintel]

@sterile stone also do you know wtf the deal w the shock collars are for iv found like 3 so far on mutants and shit found a pda and they talked about someone looking to buy any they could find dont know who tho

[zinc talon]

usually the scientist type vendors and faction head type vendors buy pda's

barman too

[placid fiber]

Sounds like people selling mutants

[zinc talon]

it can also be a dialogue choice

'I found this pda, do you want it' type dialogue choice

this could all be in the face of them just being worthless tho

I'm going off previous titles and how to sell em there

[sterile stone]

Turn them in to the guy in the starting settlement

[modern lintel]

no not the actual pdas the shock collars

[zinc talon]

oh, uh

scientists would be my guess

[sterile stone]

The guy who asks you to shoot dogs

[zinc talon]

maybe mercs

[placid fiber]

NOT KUJO!!!

[modern lintel]

the dogs are evil in this game

foul creatures

[placid fiber]

Oh

Fuck the dogs, then

Not literally tho...

[modern lintel]

their also blind

[placid fiber]

[sterile stone]

There's 3 types of dogs

[placid fiber]

Green, blue, and purple?

[sterile stone]

One isn't technically a dog but a mutated feral wolf

No

[modern lintel]

all evil and deserving of maximum punishment

[sterile stone]

Imagine a pug the size of a greyhound

[placid fiber]

[sterile stone]

With the teeth of razor blades

[placid fiber]

[sterile stone]

Psuedodogs

[placid fiber]

Sounds good so far

[modern lintel]

the cats are also the absolute worst

[placid fiber]

[sterile stone]

The absolute most annoying wildlife to kill

Cause these things can cast false projections of themselves that damage you

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-meme-astronaut-gif-23926290

[sterile stone]

And they can mass spam these things to where it's like 20 of them vs you

[zinc talon]

The copies are bluish and transparent

[zinc talon]

And the actual dog won't chase you if copies are up

So look for the one in the distance

[sterile stone]

I've unfortunately seen this when I'm in abuilding

[zinc talon]

The dog itself will come into the building?

And not just send in copies?

Well cool, one less thing

[placid fiber]

Not as cute as you made it sound

[sterile stone]

As far as I'm aware of

No

I've only been bum rushed by the copies

And it feels like the copies can more copies of themselves at times

I've had them spawn behind me on a stairwell

[modern lintel]

chimeras are the absolute worst just as tanky as psudo giants but move at the speed of sound

[sterile stone]

That one shot ability they have also isn't very fun to go against

[placid fiber]

No.... all of my future maybe friends that the cat will hate!!!!!

[visual stream]

Question

[fleet zealot]

Ferret

[placid fiber]

Cheese

[visual stream]

Does killing an enemy who has soulblaze stacks on with a non-warp weapon still count as a warp kill

[visual stream]

SPLENDID

[faint prairie]

I like mk4 dueling sword, I didn't like the way the others felt. Am I doin it wrong?

[fleet zealot]

No

[placid fiber]

no

[fleet zealot]

But it does count as a soulblaze kill

[light badge]

Update on weed making things taste amazing

Eggnog is fucking beuatiful

[fleet zealot]

Mk4 is considered the best and most straightforward yes

[visual stream]

Soulblaze kill isn't a warp kill for the purposes of soulstealer?

[fleet zealot]

Dueling mk5 has better dodges for some reason

[fleet zealot]

Yes cause one checks if the target died via soulblaze

[faint prairie]

ohhhhhhhh gotcha

thanks!

[placid fiber]

because it has 2 dodge stats...?

[fleet zealot]

And the other checks if they died while having soulblaze

[visual stream]

Ahhh

Strange

[placid fiber]

I mean the mk5 has defences and mobility, both which affect dodge distance

[fleet zealot]

Some reason

That is the reason

Yes

[placid fiber]

Oh I get it

/whoosh am I rite?

[fleet zealot]

Woosh fellow redditors

Hahah

Gold!

[placid fiber]

Hm... these sugar cookies I made turned out okay this time...

[opal star]

that's it

[placid fiber]

I must've cooked em wrong

[opal star]

burn down this channel

[fleet zealot]

Kings when they see the enemy army approaching via water

[jagged cradle]

I haven’t had it in years I miss it

[fleet zealot]

Omg just saw the smite thread on reddit

The real problem is other players’ egos

[obsidian prairie]

awy88ygbaoygbwa

[sterile stone]

@modern lintel So today I learned snork's mask can come off

[modern lintel]

i heard a guy in game talking abt it once

[sterile stone]

They look like ghouls kinda

[modern lintel]

basically what they are tbh

[hard nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130953226611597413/1301219355929083905/wolpspin.gif

heblo swaglings

[modern lintel]

the local zone brokie has arrived smu

[hard nexus]

huh

[modern lintel]

you aint got no coupons!!

[hard nexus]

if u ain’t

got no coupons

take yo broke ass home

[modern lintel]

idk why they decided to name the currency the the dumbest shit imaginable

[hard nexus]

oh

yeah

sorry it’s

uhh

koupons

[modern lintel]

even worse!!

[fleet zealot]

Hiiii

https://tenor.com/view/weasel-hello-gif-24646624

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-mewing-meme-mewing-snowman-snowman-mew-gif-3277874890067862090

that

was not what i meant to send

[light badge]

Are any of psyker's staves fun to have on the team?

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/sasha-wolfdog-wolp-wolfdog-gif-307456939725271948

[hard nexus]

what do u mean

like, fun to play with a psyker who’s using them?

[light badge]

Correct

[hard nexus]

a RMB electro

or

voidstrike

[fleet zealot]

Rmb electric and voidstrike

Fun to watch the bowling balls

[light badge]

I thought Voidstrike was op?

[hard nexus]

get ur own personality…. god…

[hard nexus]

it is

just

not as bad as the other 2

[fleet zealot]

It is

But it doesn’t take away all the fun

There is very few true narrow spaces in darktide so it’s always satisfying to watch without simply killing everything and/or burning your retinas out

[fleet zealot]

Goop minds think alike

https://tenor.com/view/cell-think-dbz-dbs-perfect-gif-9943214

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iGoZxgst5EjF8uysZ?invite=cr-MSxBQjksMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[fleet zealot]

Playing from mars tech priest?

Mustelidz

[hard nexus]

flat maxilla, negative canthal tilt

it’s over

start ropemaxxing

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-shocked-cant-believe-gif-7292920

[obtuse lichen]

i have a couple questions for the combat blade zealots. Mk III or Mk IV for theblade? and I would want flesh tearer and mercy killer as blessings. correct?

[visual stream]

Does surge on electrokinetic staff make two shots only with left click or also with the alternate attack?

[fleet zealot]

Mk3 is more single target, mk6 has bit more forgiving clear speed with sweeping heavies both are good, mk3 is slightly better for what a knife does

[fleet zealot]

Surge only works on lmb

[visual stream]

That's so stinky

Ty

[fleet zealot]

Reason why electro lmb is a thing is that the staff has crit bonus modifier

Which works on lmb vs the other staffs that dont

[hard nexus]

mercy killer bad

[obtuse lichen]

Thank you.

[hard nexus]

only good on vet

[obtuse lichen]

ok thanks. what would you want for combat blade zealot blessigns

[hard nexus]

uncanny, precog, riposte, flesh tearer only on piety build

precog and riposte is what i usually would run

[fleet zealot]

For blessings big no, you want uncanny +riposte or precog, riposte + precog if you are going blazing piety, or uncanny fleshtearer for bleed cause i can’t physically stop you from going bleed

[hard nexus]

back when i actually used knife

[fleet zealot]

So i’m going to give you the least bad bleed build

[hard nexus]

also uncanny buffs bleed damage, it gives it armor piercing

[obtuse lichen]

does the combat knife bleed without blessings?

[hard nexus]

no

[fleet zealot]

No but it has high base crit chance

And you get more from tree

[obtuse lichen]

i gotchy

[hard nexus]

(+20%)

[fleet zealot]

And with it’s high damage you dont need bleed

[obtuse lichen]

i gotchu. thanks!

[fleet zealot]

#zealot-class message

[plucky gate]

Just finished arcane

[modern lintel]

@sterile stone do u ever just be walking around and end up w a gun in your hands that you didnt own before have had this happen twice got a half broken ebr and just now a half broken fora 221

[sterile stone]

Yeah

I randomly had my m4 swapped out for a 870

I didn't even pick up

Shit was weird

[sterile basalt]

peak plasma (it's missing every breakpoint ever)

[fleet zealot]

I HATE GINGERS

( i can say this cause i’m a ginger irl)

[rocky nacelle]

oh gross

god has it out 4 u

or whoever is upstairs

40k fan and ginger

[mossy tulip]

does execution for the bolt pistol proc on the first shot

[fleet zealot]

God wemains dead

[fleet zealot]

No unless something else is staggering the target

Just go puncture surgical or run and gun

[rocky nacelle]

I need triple gun blessings

so I can go scatter/manstopper/run n gun

double barrel

[modern lintel]

give bolt pistol can opener NOW

[rocky nacelle]

bolter needs run n gun

[fleet zealot]

Give bistol uhh uhh

[rocky nacelle]

and lethal proximity

[fleet zealot]

Cavalcade /j

[fleet zealot]

Lethal prox yes, run n gun prob never

[rocky nacelle]

yet

they memed on me for saying crusher get thrust

let look where we are

[fleet zealot]

Crusher was always possible to get thrust

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/kiryu-angry-gif-24977659

[fleet zealot]

The naysayers were worried it would make it thunderhammer lite

[sterile basalt]

boltpistol could go so hard if u could run 6 blessings on it at the same time

[fleet zealot]

Different reasonings

[rocky nacelle]

those people have never used either weapon

if they think crusher is a TH lite

[fleet zealot]

And now crusher got slaught too so thrust kinda

Fell aside

[rocky nacelle]

thrust is good on crusher

but then you'll get every noob in your ear asking why would you ever run another blessing combo

[sterile basalt]

I might try thrust + skullcrusher for crusher

[fleet zealot]

Its good but not goood

[rocky nacelle]

I did thrust slaught

[fleet zealot]

Counter synergy with skullcrusher for crushers/bigger units

[plush estuary]

where is the dorn consenting sticker

[rocky nacelle]

pre good

[fleet zealot]

Thrust slaught/slaught skullcrusher

[rocky nacelle]

gone along with him unless one of you post it

[fleet zealot]

Are the two combinations

[rocky nacelle]

me thinks

[sterile basalt]

I feel skullcrusher is too big to drop for this weapon specifically

[fleet zealot]

Skullcrusher and thrust just don’t work well together

[rocky nacelle]

thats why i have 2 crushers to try it out

slaught thrust good on crusher

it just completely 180s the crushers gameplan

[sullen forge]

@plush estuary 👍

[rocky nacelle]

yknow

[fleet zealot]

So thammer lite?

[rocky nacelle]

slaught thrust turns crusher from a combo weapon into just H2 spam

[fleet zealot]

[rocky nacelle]

lmfao

it also turns into a crusher deleter

that was the main funny part

[fleet zealot]

I mean

It already does

With just skullcrusher

[rocky nacelle]

wrong

delete 1 shot

in this case

[fleet zealot]

2 shot in the same amount of time

[rocky nacelle]

yeah but 2 aint 1

[fleet zealot]

[rocky nacelle]

so

[rocky nacelle]

id tell people try thrust slaughterer out

but their brain would explode from "non meta"

WHY WOULD I RUN THAT

just because you can

[spare talon]

youre forcing the 1 shot to happen at the cost of being able to do this

[fleet zealot]

I like beating people to death

With multiple hits

[rocky nacelle]

the same thing happens to this wave with a PA into Thrust H2

[spiral elk]

I'm currently running the revolver and it's fantastic for my playstyle. I was thinking of trying the Boltpistol; is this any good coming from the revolver? My typical use case is I'm in the middle of fighting a horde in melee when I spot a high priority enemy out of melee range, so I need to swap to a ranged weapon quickly to eliminate them

[fleet zealot]

Hence why i main chaxe

[rocky nacelle]

not sure what the point of this vid is

noobo

[uneven galleon]

what are the blessings

is it slaughterer headtaker?

[spare talon]

but it takes longer

[fleet zealot]

It will be worse

[rocky nacelle]

see

[fleet zealot]

For that

[spare talon]

slaught sc

[rocky nacelle]

thats what im talkin bout

[spiral elk]

yeah kinda figured given the slow draw speed

[rocky nacelle]

find every reason in the universe to not try a blessing combo

lmfao

[fleet zealot]

Bistol is for buffing grenades and otherwise is a worse revolver in most respects

[rocky nacelle]

dt players

[fleet zealot]

Bistol draw time isn’t bad

The animation is longer than the actual draw time

[spiral elk]

I see I didn't know that. It does have a bigger mag size though, what's the main disadvantage over revolver?

[rocky nacelle]

crazy the exact sequence happens after i say this

kek

[spiral elk]

and it does more damage

[fleet zealot]

Not really

Revolver cleaves through a field

Bistol cleaves like 1-2 targets

[rocky nacelle]

zarona

agri is a normal gun

(i dont know agri revo cleave after the update/buff)

but its not zarona tier cleave

still

good tho

[fleet zealot]

Staged reloads are a blessing and a curse for revolver but they aren’t a straight downside, bolt pistol has a better reload than zarona and more ammo than either revolver in a magazine

And agri revolver has speedloader used anyways

[sterile basalt]

1.5

[rocky nacelle]

agri with built in speedloader

[fleet zealot]

I would say, less reliant on surgical?

[rocky nacelle]

used to pray for times like this

yes

[sterile basalt]

zarona revolver is 6.5 cleave

[rocky nacelle]

imo agri crucian >>> surgical

everyday

[fleet zealot]

Bistol can go puncture run and gun for example

[fleet zealot]

And hot take