half the time you won't get it
#zealot-class
fast iron
no because lol back stabbing
remote lark
you probably get just as much cdr from attacking enemies front as u do from trying to hit them in the back
janky as fuck
invoc is still way better
but at least its better than the martyr cdr talent
that things fucking useless
fast iron
looking at code and i am in pain 
grand tangle
Fuck reading the horus heresy
fast iron
huh does combat knife have an innate +25% damage on backstab
grand tangle
Read the seige of terra
misty nova
huh does combat knife have an innate +25% damage on backstab
Yeah
Seems like the only weapon with innate backstab bonus
remote lark
huh does combat knife have an innate +25% damage on backstab
I KNEW I WASNT CRAZY
stable cypress
If I wanted to read I'd go to school
fast iron
janky as fuck
so it's technically '_is_outmanoeuvring'
remote lark
... does that imply you also get the cdr if you do it while doding their attack
that wording is weird
fast iron
not exactly just a function name
if the unit is a player it flattens their look direction into a 2D plane I believe and gets their forward looking vector. Otherwise it gets the world rotation of the... unit?
remote lark
it probably gets called for enemies that are behind you
cause you take more backstab damage in certain situations
i think one such situation is when you're using an auspex
or putting one of those skulls on an objective to hack it
fast iron
there's then a 'dot_threshold' which is 0 by what i'm looking at here, which is checked to see if it is less than the dot product of the attack direction and the attacked unit forward direction
this roughly means I think that if backstabs are allowed, you are (generally) backstabbing someone if you are within 90 degrees of their facing direction on a flat 2D plane
regardless if the position of your hitboxes, where you are located, or anything really
you can backstab someone behind you if you're facing the same direction as them and can somehow hit them with melee
finite cipher
any tigrus MK III build guys pls
jagged cradle
I KNEW I WASNT CRAZY
It was in the patch notes
fast iron
oh wait no that's flanking
jagged cradle
any tigrus MK III build guys pls
@hard nexus enlighten him
misty nova
oh wait no that's *flanking*
Raking Fire mentioned
fast iron
@remote lark so basically it takes both you and the enemy facing directions(your positions DO NOT MATTER, only your facing). It then takes the cosine of the angle between the two directions. It's 1 if they have the same direction, 0 if they're at 90 degree angles, and -1 if they have opposite angles.
stone fern
pinning fire is mid MID
fast iron
For flanking(AKA ranged backstab): any value above 0 is fine. So your facing needs to be less than 90 degrees of where the person you're attacking is facing.
@remote lark then for melee backstabs(what you are worried about). First off the attack direction is the direction from your location to the hit unit's location. If the cosine of that direction and the enemies rotation direction is above 0.5, it's a melee backstab.
raven swan
I tried Dueling Sword kinda fun but only on Malice.
fast iron
@remote lark that corresponds to a 60 degree angle it seems, instead of the 90 degree angle of flanking
fleet zealot
misty nova
<@478232915772178462> that corresponds to a 60 degree angle it seems, instead of...
So it's more forgiving than we thought?
fast iron
as to where the position of an enemy is: iunno i would guess the center of the model but it might be weird sometimes
fast iron
So it's more forgiving than we thought?
how so? Flanking(for ranged) is a 180 degree arc behind their facing. Backstab(for melee) is a 120 degree arc behind.
fleet zealot
Backstabs are calculated by your camera angle no?
And like “where the enemy box is”
Which in case for some staggering animation that flip opponents around, you have to wait till the end
fast iron
It uses 'attack direction' for the facing and the attacking unit, the camera angle only matters for the attacked unit(or the unit rotation, which is similar, for an NPC)
fleet zealot
For the hitbox to catchup to the turn
misty nova
how so? Flanking(for ranged) is a 180 degree arc behind their facing. Backstab(f...
Oh behind
Ok
fast iron
the 'hitbox' technically doesn't really matter other than A. you hit them and B. the attack direction is in a similar direction as their current rotation
(i'm unsure exactly how attack direction is handled for ranged 'backstabs', but for melee it's simply again a straight line between your location and the enemy location)
but yeah backstabs are a little narrower than just 'behind'
also the location of the hit doesn't actually matter as long as the positioning is correct. you can 'backstab' someone in the foot
hardy fjord
What is the best roll on assult chain? 60 dmg 80 everything else?
fast iron
What is the best roll on assult chain? 60 dmg 80 everything else?
defenses < mobility < everything else. except for some weapons that have a niche stat that doesn't really scale that well
light badge
Good morning chatters
fast iron
i am unsure why damage would ever be the dump stat.
hardy fjord
Good morning chatters
good day
hardy fjord
i am unsure why damage would *ever* be the dump stat.
according to the guy I watched, all the other stats makes the weapon do more dmg than dmg itself
north sedge
Tanner?
north sedge
Yea he sucka the doodoo
hardy fjord
he's wrong?
modern lintel
i am unsure why damage would *ever* be the dump stat.
i think the reasoning some ppl had for it is on some weapon a drop of like 10% to dmg would only effect its actually dmg my a .00 or .0 difference maybe im remembering wrong
fast iron
hmmm. yes. the mobility stat. famous for donig damage
north sedge
A significant amount of the time
hardy fjord
hmmm. yes. the mobility stat. famous for donig damage
all the other stats obs
north sedge
Someone's gotta have that tanner dmg dump stat gif handy
fast iron
all the other stats obs
right but my point is dump defenses first and then mobility because it's free damage if you do
hardy fjord
well I'm not a fan of him or anything, I was just asking
north sedge
And Def/mobility don't scale that much
fast iron
i mean ok it's a difference between like 155 or 165 damage on heavy attack sure
modern lintel
and also its is insanely easier in comparison building weapons now then it was before when he had that infamous video
fast iron
but that's a difference between like 155 or 165 damage on heavy attack
(also yes I guess other stats EXCEPT FOR MOBILITY will scale better 
)
north sedge
I only asked if it was tanner cause he's often the source of dubious info
hardy fjord
I only asked if it was tanner cause he's often the source of dubious info
yeah, I already imagined that would be the case with him
fast iron
(i also agree on gunner resist except as trainnig wheels :v)
north sedge
Gunner resist is good, there is no such thing as perfect slides always, you can get fucked sometimes by surprise reapers and such
fast iron
uncanny resistance can be somewhat overkill as you'd only need about 14.5% rending I believe for a dueling sword to deal 100% damage to flak, and while carapace can use up to 50% rending it's not terribly needed and brittle/rending from other sources camn work
i did somewhat forget the overkill rending ratio tho :x
hardy fjord
how big is the diff between 60 mobility and 80 with chain sword?
spare dome
-.1 sprint speed and like 5% dodge distance
fast iron
how big is the diff between 60 mobility and 80 with chain sword?
which mark
fast iron
actually not sure it matters ok
hushed knoll
Cats can’t be green
north sedge
OMG DOUGH YOURE HERE
hardy fjord
hmm
fast iron
hmm. if calculating right: 0.18 sprint speed, 2% dodge distance
north sedge
It's basically nothing
fast iron
technically the sprint speed is the difference between zealot and not zealot :p
but also that isn't going to kill you so
hushed knoll
WHY
hushed knoll
Why was my name crossed out lol
hardy fjord
I see, thanks
north sedge
Why was my name crossed out lol
I'm not sure actually
fleet zealot
Cats can’t be green
Tacos can’t be stans
hardy fjord
one last question, even dumber than the one before. does it matter if I max out a 270 weapon compared to a 330 weapon? Is the ceiling the same?
fleet zealot
one last question, even dumber than the one before. does it matter if I max out ...
Yes the potential is what matters
lusty turtle
Same ceiling
hardy fjord
alright bet
obtuse solstice
why do people like the dclaw7 over 4
fast iron
one last question, even dumber than the one before. does it matter if I max out ...
yes, the likely difference will be a rough estimate of maybe a mission or two
anyway hi are you curious about... CODE THINGS. or uh. how something weird works. i am bored.
opal star
alright ai director
fast iron
terror event woo
also apparently if you take damage, and you have less than half your maximum stamina, you get 1 stamina. Assuming that the attack can be blocked.
...also apparently killing things increases your aggro.
solar gorge
alright ai director
misty ravine
https://tenor.com/view/nick-left4dead2-l4d2-l4d-left4dead-gif-16097720
AAH HELP ME CHEESEBURGER APOCALYPSE
fast iron
well. only killing things with ranged attacks have aggro?
misty nova
alright ai director
That ain't nothing
Once had two plague Ogryns and a Chaos Spawn, all three blessed, on the start of Chasm Logistratum
misty nova
fast iron
hmmm and suppressing a unit adds twice as much aggro as killing a unit
that would probably explain a lot of why ogryns seem to complain about being targeted a lot
misty nova
But how would that unit fight back if it's suppressed 
fast iron
But how would that unit fight back if it's suppressed <:whatthefuck_heresy:10497...
the aggro is added to the unit killing someone with ranged attacks or suppressing enemies
misty nova
Hmm
That would explain why sometimes you get ignored by ragers and such
Even though they basically hug you while moving
fast iron
that's quite possibly because another unit has more aggro and is the current aggroed unit yes
it seems like there are also three 'lanes' for enemies to move in, usually. The main vector, left flank, and right flank.
which I think more designates the 'lanes' that enemies tend to move in when not close enough to you
misty nova
Real
misty nova
I feel safe at 100% peril
fleet zealot
I WILL KILL ALL MMO AND HERO SHOOTER AND MOBA PLAYERS
fotf doesn't buff ranged anymore
fast iron
also imo psyker has like by far the strongest toughness regeneration in the game. because did I mention peril isn't a penalty, it's a reward?
> brainburst does no damage
frosty herald
the only thing that is valid is psyker survivability
fast iron
the only thing that is valid is psyker survivability
yeah sure you screw up once in a way that isn't covered by toughness regen and you taste delicious ground
visual stream
Bait or someone with a dented brain
fast iron
ogryn on the other hand has like... by far the best melee toughness regen? It's kind of hard to get better than +20% max toughness every attack...
plucky gate
the first 2 points for vet was already enough to know it's bs
weapon specialist builds aren't real i guess
visual stream
weapon specialist builds aren't real i guess
Since vet is only good at shooting things, Marksman's Focus is clearly the only viable keystone
plucky gate
"Frag grenade is just worse immolation grenade"
Yeah so when do immo nades regen and hit the entire psykanium?
fast iron
"Frag grenade is just worse immolation grenade"
Yeah so when do immo nades regen...
wait sorry what hits the entire psykanium
what is the frag grenade radius even
light badge
now that I'm not drunk this Scrier's BB build actually fucks
took less than 100 damage for this whole mission
fast iron
also they didn't even mention smoke grenades lel
frosty herald
fast iron
(smoke grenades are trash)
plucky gate
wait sorry *what* hits the entire psykanium
okay, the caveat is you need talent and a bolt pistol specific blessing
light badge
(excluding the part where I downed myself for the funny)
fast iron
okay, the caveat is you need talent and a bolt pistol specific blessing
...wait that affects all explosions
visual stream
now that I'm not drunk this Scrier's BB build actually fucks
Display the build pretty please
misty nova
what is the frag grenade radius even <:stare:743217151107923979>
12(?) Base
light badge
Display the build pretty please
fast iron
anyway as veteran I can look into a room, see literally 30 gunners, and just shoot them all nonstop killing each one one bullet at a time while taking zero damage.
analog ember
what is the frag grenade radius even <:stare:743217151107923979>
from cauliflower cat
fast iron
i uh don't think literally any other class or build even compares to that
plucky gate
what is the frag grenade radius even <:stare:743217151107923979>
At base, a frag nade is 10m radius
It goes to roughly 12m with the talent and over 14m with both talent + bolt pistol blessing
You can measure by tagging something in psykanium. Funny 29m diameter grenade.
And yes, the blessing affects nades even if you never pull out the gun
fast iron
from cauliflower cat
hmmm. vaguely tempting.
visual stream
Iron Will + Confirmed Kill + Exhilarating Takedown = Stand still and mog 40 gunners
fast iron
And yes, the blessing affects nades even if you never pull out the gun ok explain 'never pull out the gun'. ...I don't think I can abuse this with psyker tho hmmm dang.
fast iron
Iron Will + Confirmed Kill + Exhilarating Takedown = Stand still and mog 40 gunn...
yup! IT'S HIGH NOON
light badge
`And yes, the blessing affects nades even if you never pull out the gun` ok expl...
you can actually
analog ember
the blessing is mostly for the benefit of vets really
light badge
though abuse is a strong word
visual stream
I wonder if lethal proximity affects psyker sewerslide
light badge
it affects psyker's peril explosion lmfao
fast iron
you can actually
ok i'll be honest i ignored the peril explosion
visual stream
LOL
plucky gate
lmao
fast iron
I wonder if lethal proximity affects psyker sewerslide
psykerwhat
light badge
it does practically nothing because it has giga damage falloff
analog ember
it affects psyker's peril explosion lmfao
that's funny... we need some talents to buff the explosion though
martyrdom psyker when
just repeatedly blow yourself up
light badge
but the stagger is actually quite a notable increase
fast iron
what is this 'sewerslide'
misty nova
Selfcide
visual stream
What does it sound like
light badge
like, legit, if you didn't have to build crystalline and wounds to use it more than once
it'd be fun
visual stream
In the context of a psyker exploding
fast iron
oh, lame
fast iron
like, legit, if you didn't have to build crystalline and wounds to use it more t...
what if smite was nerfed, but smite drained health and could remove corruption
visual stream
Like lifesteal?
fast iron
yes
so you could drain life to full, explode, drain life to full, explode, drain life to full, explode
visual stream
No matter how you nerf it, that's a buff
frosty herald
smite is bio lightning
light badge
what if smite was nerfed, but smite drained health and could remove corruption
my dream for smite is to make it a bomb
light badge
long cast time, high peril cost (80% if from zero), but about as effective as a zealot stun nade with half the radius and stun duration
fast iron
swain Q would be cool.
light badge
make it a proper panic button
Moebian 6th drip goes hard, suck they went traitor ngl
fast iron
long cast time, high peril cost (80% if from zero), but about as effective as a ...
i mean currently it's as effective as a thousand zealot stun nades that never end, ever
with infinite range
sooooo
light badge
i mean currently it's as effective as a thousand zealot stun nades that never en...
yes, but it's lame
therefore terrible
frosty herald
smite is directly taken from dark heresy
fast iron
the heavy attack electrocute might be fun it does seem to apply the damage buff
frosty herald
which is pretty accurate since darktide is made from the dark heresy lorebook
misty nova
the heavy attack electrocute might be fun it *does* seem to apply the damage buf...
Doesn't stun though
plucky gate
martyrdom psyker when
my idea for changing crystalline will was just to make it heal you up to your wound as if you got picked up, and make it give +wounds too, so you could time explosions as a panic heal
misty nova
Can only be applied every 2 seconds iirc
plucky gate
would probably encourage the worst play but it would be funny
frosty herald
i would radically change smite
visual stream
my idea for changing crystalline will was just to make it heal you up to your wo...
Throwing it back on the crystalline will psyker instead of reviving
full nebula
DS5 moveset pretty fun
light badge
@rocky nacelle I switched back to Seer because I got sick of Loner's cheer lines lol
frosty herald
and either change it to blood boil or regeneration
misty nova
Charged Strike seems to interact with mass
So the higher the mass the less the ticks as they usually take a while to start ticking
light badge
the virgin 'I'm not dead' versus the chad 'WE'RE WINNING!'
misty nova
So a monstrosity (20 mass) only takes a single tick of small damage
fast iron
anyway ok yeah so if you do a lot of suppression(really AGGRO) or a lot of ranged kills(half as aggro) you have a high likelyhood of being picked as the Best Aggro Unit
visual stream
What if crystalline will was a self-res but you kept the corruption
fast iron
and thus selected by enemies. FOR DEATH
visual stream
That would be funny
full nebula
iM nOT dEaD yEt LuKeE me
fast iron
(there is a good deal of sticky target for that, but mostly it means the heretical psyker in the back gets targeted a lot. Or the ogryn. Especially the ogryn. ogryn farts and the entire room gets suppressed.)
misty nova
Oh we are spamming fire shots with this one
Hmmm
Maybe I could aggro stuff to my psyker so I can stab them
fast iron
now if this is not the case(IE: they can't find some shooty bang person to murder): it roughly just tries to find the closest person that fits the valid 'side' they wish to be on. 
aka probably to deal with units flanking from the left or right
hordes likely come from the 'main' angle(that can constantly change) while there are a number of other smaller units coming from a 'left' or 'right' flank.
and then like weird complex things for ranged units I t hink
frosty herald
fast iron
oh yeah. Also you know the hypothetical 30 gunners in a room situation? They. Uh. Can't attack all at once.
spare dome
thank god for the slot system
fast iron
not just the slot system. Slot system is for melee.
fast iron
attack intensity
(possibly also affects ragers which seem weird)
but also, I think, tries to avoid situations where you get things like two trappers and two doggos all attacking you simutaneously
technically it's an underlying system that uses the slot system as one of it's components I guess
spare dome
ye i just call all of that slots to make it easy
otherwise you'd have hilarious scenarios like every single scab shooter in a room salvoing the same guy in an instant
which, honestly, sometimes is probably deserved
im hoping havoc fucks with some of that
fast iron
well also stuff like your toughness breaks? here, have a 1 second leniency period with no attacks
(and a cooldown of like... something depending on difficulty.)
spare dome
we used to have a ranged damage shield on toughness break too
it was all incredibly lenient
spare dome
nah the actual DR is gone
like it a three shot salvo, first two break your toughness, the third would do basically no damage
now they all do full damage
i used to basically not care about having my toughness broken because it gave me more than enough time to reposition safely
placid fiber
Now it's just fuck you? lol
spare dome
with that gone you just get fucken demolished
you have to play to not have it break, and i think thats better
fast iron
but like if i am reading it right, elite ranged basically have a number of attacks they can shoot you with, which when it reaches the clamp it takes I think 2.5 seconds maybe to reset?
ok honestly a lot of this is guessing
spare dome
they do in fact reload
fast iron
also decays over time with I think maybe a 2 second 'grace' period where this counter doesn't decay
also these might not actually correlate to difficulty but rather to situations hmmm
"disabling" is likely for, well, disabling stuff like trappers, and seems to have a low threshold of 1.5?
local melee_weapon_equipped = table.contains(weapon_template.keywords, "melee") or table.contains(weapon_template.keywords, "grenadier_gauntlet") lol
fast iron
that's weird and seems to mostly roughly try and lock you in melee to fit some sort of 'needed challenge rating', which is a total of enemy challenge ratings in the area
pull out melee weapon, and CHALLEEEEENGE IS MADE
runic grotto
What are the perfect flamer blessings and perks?
fast iron
huh also enemy flamers take 0.55 seconds to aim and fire on damnation
ember yew
What are the perfect flamer blessings and perks?
blaze away + overpressure or penetrating flame or inspiring barrage (a choice)
runic grotto
what is the difference between overpressure and penetrating flame
placid fiber
overpressure increases damage
ember yew
overpressure boost damage vs anything, apart from crushers (you cant damage them without penflame)
runic grotto
I guess penetrating flame also kills crushers and scab ragers
I'll take penetrating flame probably
ember yew
overpressure give boost vs scab ragers too, so its only crushers in the end
fast iron
oh god bombadiers have a grenade cooldown of only 3 seconds D:
ember yew
And what about perks?
depends, im using elites + unyelding
if using penflame, may as well pick carapace, anything works
obtuse solstice
what other anti armor gun is there other than bolter
ember yew
what other anti armor gun is there other than bolter
zarona
full nebula
ayo
runic grotto
bolt pistol
full nebula
who got that gif of that green cat thing slappin the table
runic grotto
fotf no longer gives rending to ranged, right?
placid fiber
it never gave rending to ranged, it lowered armor by 1 stage
for both melee and ranged
runic grotto
Yes
full nebula
still gives firerate pretty sure
placid fiber
it does
full nebula
which is decent for autos
rocky nacelle
<@139852743358545920> I switched back to Seer because I got sick of Loner's chee...
Sounds familiar
looks like we got that in common
obtuse solstice
it never gave rending to ranged, it lowered armor by 1 stage
(which is 100% rending)
full nebula
get that perk that tightens your spread by 75% on dodge, use bolter with fury of the faithful
runic grotto
(which is 100% rending)
It turned carapace to flak, and flak to unarmored
Simmilar effect to rending, but not really rending
fast iron
huh daemonhosts have a small size variation
zinc talon
fast iron
wat
fast iron
gonna give yourself a black eye
zinc talon
I was so preoccupied with whether or not I could
I did not stop to consider whether or not I should
winged vessel
This cannot have been news to you
zinc talon
there, much more proportionate and appropriate and cute
doesn't scream size queen
naw I've just been having so much fun with the bolt pistol without any WCM tomfoolery I hadn't bothered to check
buoyant patrol
I could punch em to death with the weaponized scope
Or throw it on a hellbore
light badge
went from 100 toughness to 175
holy mother of god I can actually take damage from shooters without instantly breaking now
coping by running full sniper res for breakpoints, but whatever
winged vessel
Should I replace my health curios for toughness curios
I’m gonna miss having 300 Hp
zinc talon
holy relic will give you golden toughness and remove snipers from the monke brain danger totem pol
you're already used to one freebie with until death or whatever the invuln talent is called
rocky nacelle
coping by running full sniper res for breakpoints, but whatever
what have you cooked up this time
fast iron
honestly snipers i have like never worried about ever because I can just reflex dodge the sound
zinc talon
oh well that's a fun spin on things
fast iron
at some point with ranged enemies, you enter a zone where you just reaction dodge every time they're about to shoot
zinc talon
I suggest shock maul then instead
light badge
honestly snipers i have like never worried about ever because I can just reflex ...
I keep sniper res exclusively for the fact they're allowed to shoot you if you're midair and you can't dodge it
fleet zealot
who runs full sniper resistance
all the breakpoints that are easy are just 1
3 is for like
light badge
who runs full sniper resistance
my 150hp having ass
fast iron
and so you can be a melee god, dancing around everyone except gunners because you're goddamn neo and bullets cannot touch you
zinc talon
heh for sure, I used to have a clip of a guy who got ledged by a barrel, as the last person alive on the team, actively heading towards his death seconds away
frosty herald
I keep sniper res *exclusively* for the fact they're allowed to shoot you if you...
why are you jumping so much on psyker
zinc talon
and he gets PUNKED by a sniper instead sailing through the void
fast iron
fleet zealot
all i know is snipers have the toughness break modifier and 10x damage to toughness
zinc talon
I dunno if I've ever laughed as hard at a darktide fiasco
rocky nacelle
all i know is snipers have the toughness break modifier and 10x damage to toughn...
that means they guarantee bleed through correct
fleet zealot
so to tank a sniper shot you need a ridic amount of flat toughness and DR
fleet zealot
that means they guarantee bleed through correct
yea if they break toughness
fast iron
and then you mess up the timing and you get shot and just flump to the ground and force someone to pick you up :c
rocky nacelle
like crusher mauler and pogryn overhead
zinc talon
you won't take health damage with full golden toughness, if that's what you're asking
fast iron
such is the life of melee psyker.
fleet zealot
and they have a 10x adm to player toughness
fleet zealot
like crusher mauler and pogryn overhead
yep
zinc talon
but I think it has to be full
zinc talon
it'll wipe the entire golden bar and you'll drop down to blue
fleet zealot
yea
rocky nacelle
havoc is gonna be using modifiers
fleet zealot
player has their own adms
rocky nacelle
fleet zealot
player toughness and player HP (i think downed player has some mechanics going on as well)
it was proven when uncanny was bugged and worked on barrels
rocky nacelle
mfw toughness break through mod gets put on every special/elite for a havoc modifier
fleet zealot
and was doing full damage to players
zinc talon
they just have a thousand hp from full ko to dead, with an increasing modifier the longer they're down
fleet zealot
and insta killing them
zinc talon
multiplying the damage done to them
fleet zealot
thanks okri
frosty herald
Imagine fucking elite resistance shows up as a havoc modifier
zinc talon
fleet zealot
but yea, you see player adms a lot with shooters
zinc talon
yall remember those missions that they introduced and pulled
fleet zealot
they deal a lot of toughness damage but relatively less HP damage
rocky nacelle
nurgle blessing with more dmg and hp maybe Atk spd
zinc talon
and they were like, hardly any horde, very few enemies, but each enemy is a fucking powerhouse
zinc talon
and you had to treat the map like a WoW dungeon with teamed up group pulls
fleet zealot
and they were like, hardly any horde, very few enemies, but each enemy is a fuck...
it was so boring LMAO
frosty herald
Burgle elite
zinc talon
back then for me at least, combat was still super spicy cuz it was early enough we didn't have all the timings down in our muscle memory
frosty herald
Imagine it has infested as the mutator so it still dies in 1 shot
zinc talon
but yeah now it might just play like five enemies can oneshot you have fun
instead of 1 or 2
rocky nacelle
Maulers and crushers with stormvermin overhead speed while being nurgle blessed and doing more dmg with modifiers on havoc
fast iron
snipers have: toughness multiplier damage 10, unblockable true, all damage spillover on depleted tougness
fleet zealot
KENDRICK DROPPED
rocky nacelle
zinc talon
snipers have: toughness multiplier damage 10, unblockable true, all damage spill...
I can block em, but force swords with deflector can't
fleet zealot
i think sniper is 125 base damage
zinc talon
even when I block em, the round punches through, and can hit squaddies behind me if they're aligned just right
planted or active
fast iron
i think sniper is 125 base damage
122.5 up to 175
zinc talon
it used to damage through a slab shield block, but was changed like maybe around the time talents 2.0 debuted
rocky nacelle
I remember those days
zinc talon
quality of life vastly improved, I love lights out sniper gauntlets now
rocky nacelle
I was wondering why on launch the sniper just ignored shield, but honestly it made sense to me
light badge
I fucking hate this stupid game so much
zinc talon
all the beams through the dark with the team picking em off as I bait them
light badge
even the maps are racist against psykers
fast iron
damnation is 1225 toughness damage, elite damnation is 1750
fleet zealot
ridic
zinc talon
wuuf, top 5 darktide dragon to chase
rocky nacelle
I fucking hate this stupid game so much
you’re a noob
that spot is known
if you have a long enough weapon you can just jump melee under it
zinc talon
heh
fast iron
crusher has apparently up to 520 damage, no 10x toughness multi tho
zinc talon
jagged cradle
I fucking hate this stupid game so much
Lmfao
zinc talon
fast iron
wat lol
zinc talon
fuckin around in the grinder and accidentally created a new sport
stone fern
I fucking hate this stupid game so much
id just leave the mission
fast iron
fun fact the combat AI treats grenade gauntlets as a melee weapon
zinc talon
yeah, blaze away will stack with melee swings as well
visual stream
Remember the shield juggling you can do with it
sullen forge
I fucking hate this stupid game so much
Dumb chud game
fast iron
30x multiplier guess what has this :c
zinc talon
you just awakened a deep magic memory but I can't pull all of it
fast iron
||scab captain plasma pistol shot D:||
zinc talon
I think it was cuz the corpses disappear and I couldnt like practice it
visual stream
If you do it in a sedition match it's easy to keep the juggle active
zinc talon
visual stream
I think my top score was 4 airborne shield hits but I didn't spend much time on it
fast iron
fun thing there's uh multi staged reloads dor a lot of guns
stone fern
typing in discord would have shaved a minute off that video
^typing stat dumpers on suicide watch
fast iron
action_pistol_whip_followup ...there's a pistol whip followup?
zinc talon
typing in discord would have shaved a minute off that video
I am building suspense and it is RIVETING
stone fern
I am building suspense and it is *RIVETING*
no
zinc talon
also I do that so I can just dump the video without having to type it out every time
zinc talon
if folks haven't watched it, they're gonna be reading it for the info, if they have, they're obviously a simp for me so it doesn't matter
hard nexus
So it's more forgiving than we thought?
it’s like 180 degrees
rocky nacelle
@light badge
ignore cole being a loser thinking duos isnt good practice
(keeps you on your toes)
misty nova
`action_pistol_whip_followup` ...there's a pistol whip followup?
Pistol? Like the Bolt pistol? Yeah it's a sideways hold shot
zinc talon
`action_pistol_whip_followup` ...there's a pistol whip followup?
maybe it's the firing of the gun during the pistol whip?
light badge
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j8tmKeuHOTxppo7F3?invite=c...
dbarrel propaganda
rocky nacelle
@light badge yes i only propagandize whats good and based
rocky nacelle
dbarrel propaganda
(I had to survive the entire first event of gloriana at this HP)
blissful frigate
`action_pistol_whip_followup` ...there's a pistol whip followup?
it surprised me when mk3 knife special had a followup for the light attack, just a light version of a backstab, gotta see what other special melees combo into
spare dome
the punch followup is actually exactly the same as a heavy attack
hushed knoll
Para 
rocky nacelle
hushed knoll
that video needs subway surfers
Subway surfing is dangerous and illegal
rocky nacelle
mfw I can replicate what staves do with a shotgun and soykers will still say use a staff instead
because they fucking suck
hushed knoll
because they fucking suck
This is why you should become a vet
solar gorge
ease of use always win and staves are the peak when it comes to ease of use considering what they can do
storm crypt
zealot channel
look inside
freakposting
rocky nacelle
ease of use always win and staves are the peak when it comes to ease of use cons...
i know
solar gorge
>zealot channel
>look inside
>freakposting
rocky nacelle
doesnt make it any less aids when soykers are stuck in their ways and cant escape from 3 permanent builds/setups
or 2-3 weapons/staves
and thats it
solar gorge
i like staves because space wizards but i wish they'd find a way to make them less broken
rocky nacelle
and then they wont say soyker is strong or op cause they get 2 tapped in melee for having shittty melee skills
storm crypt
at least the psykers are closer to being based with a 2h sword
(it will definitely just be kerillian 2h sword)
solar gorge
zealot is getting one too
storm crypt
ye
hushed knoll
ease of use always win and staves are the peak when it comes to ease of use cons...
OMG LAMBDA ILY
storm crypt
i expect executioner sword for one of the marks lol
solar gorge
hi bowl taco man
sullen forge
at least the psykers are closer to being based with a 2h sword
so true "dragonpawjob"
copper hawk
Dragonpawjob
storm crypt
so true "dragonpawjob"
yeah no problem champ
hushed knoll
hi bowl taco man
Omg it’s you 
storm crypt
sullen forge
LMAO
copper hawk
sullen forge
storm crypt
my name gets mentioned every time and i love it
zinc talon
later losers
misty nova
i expect executioner sword for one of the marks lol
Isn't that just the Evis15 
solar gorge
humanity is doomed
solar gorge
zamasu was right all along smh
hushed knoll
humanity is doomed
Why
copper hawk
Gale obsessing over the new furry in chat
sullen forge
@rocky nacelle post your POV
copper hawk
He has another
storm crypt
you're a ningen
zamasu in chat
sullen forge
solar gorge
zamasu in chat
https://tenor.com/view/fused-zamasu-zamasu-vegito-dragon-ball-sparking-zero-gif-14509211011287029276
storm crypt
Isn't that just the Evis15 <:almosttroll:810569655839227934>
also yeah kinda, except it isn't looping just 2 light attacks
sullen forge
Can we get some zamasu's in the chat?
frosty herald
storm crypt
also it isnt nearly as sluggish
rocky nacelle
Gale obsessing over the new furry in chat
you're just mad you're stuck with kez on your team
💅 🙄
rocky nacelle
we r noob
sullen forge
I see funny names I point them out
rocky nacelle
more like
sullen forge
Did you see it?
solar gorge
scary ufo footage
rocky nacelle
There's more of us femboys than u know
are these femboys in the room with us right now?
sullen forge
I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT LMAO
rocky nacelle
<@139852743358545920> post your POV
copper hawk
It's awesome
storm crypt
every christmas
solar gorge
it's horrible
rocky nacelle
the SH2 music makes it 10x better
storm crypt
i have to put on the cock christmas hat
fast iron
so dis is intentional. Basically every weapon state has allowed 'chain actions', which basically means it can be canceled into something completely different despite the animation not being over.
copper hawk
storm crypt
every christmas (november 1st-dec 31st)
storm crypt
november isn't real it's just extended december
sullen forge
kill everyone who has that frame of thinking
🗣️
sullen forge
THANKSGIVING GIVES ME AN EXCUSE TO EAT COPIOUS AMOUNT OF BIRD MEAT RAGHHHH!!!!
frosty herald
The Santa hat on their oc says COCK
sullen forge
Im having mine alone this year, I dont really know what the fuck im going to do tbh
sullen forge
But im going to find a way to enjoy it
copper hawk
Bird meat
rocky nacelle
when people feel like making candied yams
frosty herald
Christmas?
sullen forge
Drink probably
sullen forge
copper hawk
I have to continue the tradition of not eating on TG
sullen forge
can you stop trauma dumping sweaty
minor spelling mistake
you look like a freak now
copper hawk
Para on his california gurl arc
frosty herald
Churches always have an open festivity for thanksgiving and christmas
copper hawk
Im all for it
rocky nacelle
unironically
the only californian girl i know
is black
(thank god)
fake californian though
she used to live down here in the south
frosty herald
storm crypt
fast iron
huh TIL bolt pistol has more damage the farther away someone is
sullen forge
rocky nacelle
Para on his california gurl arc
i prefer the term valley barbie
fast iron
starting from 7.5 meters to 30 meters
copper hawk
<:zorpalod:1156776780871512164>
Zorpalod
sullen forge
ITS SO AWESOME
storm crypt
zorpalod
i had to google why it was named that it's funny
the AI gaming article pandemic
copper hawk
sullen forge
I got this
rocky nacelle
need to get the 3veg run back with cole (with less gravity this time)
copper hawk
In the server im in we had one sticker of that word named pingi
rocky nacelle
and less gunner stunlock
frosty herald
https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-dragon-ball-anime-goku-shonen-jump-gif-24439041
Me to da opps
misty nova
so dis is intentional. Basically every weapon state has allowed 'chain actions',...
Propaganda for riven mains
copper hawk
They killed pingi..
copper hawk
At least we still have poop seal
frosty herald
On my king picollo shi
copper hawk
storm crypt
fast iron
Propaganda for riven mains
yes well for riven it was an accident :v
rocky nacelle
On my king picollo shi
frosty herald
Only 3 more normal maesltroms for this fucjing insignia
sullen forge
rocky nacelle
dragon punch is goated though
frosty herald
rocky nacelle
https://tenor.com/view/goku-vs-king-piccolo-db-gif-25668762
OG ball bro
everyone was a menace when they threw hands
lmfao
frosty herald
Bro gave goku the WORK
rocky nacelle
Bro gave goku the WORK
frosty herald
Tien breaking yamcha's leg for no reason
zinc talon
fast iron
anyway for example. action_wield. When you... wield... it. The animation takes 0.65s(slooooow). However you can chain into the special melee action in only 0.25s I believe. Or shoot it in 0.35s. Or start reloading it in only 0.275s.
rocky nacelle
@frosty herald idiot 1
storm crypt
i will never forget people trying to shill the bolter specifically with throwing knives because you could throw a knife to animation cancel its 5 hour long pull out time
rocky nacelle
@light badge idiot 2 are you there
sullen forge
rocky nacelle
Because a chaos spawn threw me off of a ledge
skissue
fast iron
Then if you shoot it, it takes a whopping 1.2 seconds to do so. but you can, again, cancel it into a number of other actions including equipping another weapon, faster than it takes to finish. in fact you can shoot it once every 0.6s despite the animation taking 1.2s
frosty herald
sullen forge
Thats just a fancier vet reload cancel where you just sprint at the right time
copper hawk
I shill the bolter cuz it's by far the best wpn for duos
frosty herald
Real ones bash when you rack the slide to reload cancel
sullen forge
Sorry I dont play with noobs who get killed by CS grab gunner combos 💅
rocky nacelle
on bolter?
rocky nacelle
Sorry I dont play with noobs who get killed by CS grab gunner combos 💅
CS+flamer*
sullen forge
true
frosty herald
on bolter?
Yeah
storm crypt
i reverse-shill the bolter (i am a revolvercel)
rocky nacelle
I shill the bolter cuz it's by far the best wpn for duos
considering it has no weaknesses virtually outside of a void captain shield
yes
copper hawk
Flamers for some reason continue to attack u when ur cspawned
plucky gate
my 150hp having ass
Are you able to replace 1 sniper res with +hp?
2 sniper res should mean they deal 78.4, so you'd only need 157 hp to not get 2 shot
plain dragon
I just finished a four zealot mission and I felt unstoppable right until someone wandered away while we were bullying a daemonhost
sullen forge
i reverse-shill the bolter (i am a revolvercel)
I will skin you alive you Scaled fuck, you will learn the disciple of the Vigilant Autos
rocky nacelle
the things that can extra hoe you out/kill you
are reapers/gunners/flamers/bombers/bursters
and sometimes ragers
storm crypt
I will skin you alive you Scaled fuck, you will learn the disciple of the Vigila...
actually i didnt mind any of the autoguns. just when quickplaying i use revolver thammer
rocky nacelle
they'll finish their combo while you get grabbed by a mutie sometimes too
copper hawk
And plogryns
rocky nacelle
its ass
storm crypt
it's my carry build
fast iron
the bolter pistol also has other fancy stuff, such as the action movement curve, which is basically what slows you down when you shoot.
rocky nacelle
i havent seen the plogryns one personally
copper hawk
Crushers will too
zinc talon
bombers will also drop grenades on you
copper hawk
i havent seen the plogryns one personally
I see it in duos
sullen forge
I mean revolver is pathetically easy to kill like elites and specials with im not surprised
copper hawk
On i iis or 3vegs
rocky nacelle
makes sense I dont watch duos unless im the one doing it
zinc talon
and the fire will damage you both when grabbed by a slug and spawn
copper hawk
It's infuriating
rocky nacelle
yeah i can imagine
sullen forge
rocky nacelle
considering how much fucking damage the stomp does
copper hawk
I dont watch duos
rocky nacelle
and the overhead
storm crypt
yeah my favorite is having a bb psyker that doesnt kill anything ever and just uses the dumb flamethrower staff
zinc talon
copper hawk
Unless ur like learning tech or something
plucky gate
When u could just be playing it too
Just do both at the same time
sullen forge
zinc talon
typical gen alpha attention span
fast iron
buff_stat_buffs.reload_speed,
}``` there's also this which afaik basically affects all the chain times and animation speedKILL SNIPERS BEHEAD SNIPERS
rocky nacelle
typical gen alpha attention span
i wont watch cause i dont care
sullen forge
Fucking threw a Krak once
rocky nacelle
typical dont care attention span
sullen forge
6+ kills lmao
rocky nacelle
zinc talon
meme tier stuff is always great
median steeple
who up darking they tide
copper hawk
Yo mama
rocky nacelle
KILL SNIPERS BEHEAD SNIPERS
cole got robbed by a sniper last night
zinc talon
like oh how the turntables-ing dogs thinkin they're slick pouncing from across the entire postal zip code
sullen forge
who up darking they tide
Ya daddy
storm crypt
hammering they war
median steeple
Ya daddy
https://tenor.com/view/jinx-jinx-middle-finger-jinx-s2-jinx-uck-you-uck-you-gif-14102286058703083939
rocky nacelle
seeing someone vault with a sniper lining up their red dot knowing whats going to happen in 0.5 seconds
sullen forge
I should get on the tide... of dark
this Zombies camo grind is making my brain melt
rocky nacelle
should listen to more dellor slurs
storm crypt
i want my 2h power sword already
sullen forge
I SHOULD
copper hawk
this Zombies camo grind is making my brain melt
Literal hamster wheel
fast iron
https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/688653a836a6dc8bc35e626b574334afe2ed45c4/scripts/settings/equipment/reload_templates/boltpistol_reload_template.lua then uh the multistage weapons use tese templates which are a lil complex
rocky nacelle
ironic coming from da hamster
blissful frigate
seeing someone vault with a sniper lining up their red dot knowing whats going t...
people who dont have dodge and jump bound sepperately in a sniper guantlet
rocky nacelle
really makes u think
light badge
Are you able to replace 1 sniper res with +hp?
2 sniper res should mean they dea...
I'll try that in a bit, thanks for the advice
rocky nacelle
.......
sullen forge
Literal hamster wheel
IT NEVER FUCKING ENDS
copper hawk
U suck
rocky nacelle
people who dont have dodge and jump bound sepperately in a sniper guantlet
its not even that
sullen forge
Die kid...
rocky nacelle
its just the circumstances of a sniper showing up when someone is vaulting
median steeple
sullen forge
He's mad im cool and he's not
copper hawk
Die kid...
sullen forge
rocky nacelle
lot of good that camo is gonna do you when you get spawn camped by an attack chopper
fast iron
bolter pistol when you reload: After 0.4s all remaining ammo is removed(this is the 'reload skip' where if even one shot is fired, you can cancel into a reload and then cancel the reload into something else)
rocky nacelle
copper hawk
Spawn die spawn die dpswn die spawn die
rocky nacelle
rocky nacelle
Spawn die spawn die dpswn die spawn die
shut up clock in and load out
shut up clock in and load out
shut up -
rocky nacelle
sigh
fast iron
then despite the reload time being 3.1s, the ammunition is refilled at 2.6s. At which point you can fire it.
copper hawk
fast iron
and then uh there's state transitions I ghuess which swap animations and can be 'paused' there and returned to later I think
rocky nacelle
so woke.........
blissful frigate
everything always about kok
balls
sullen forge
rocky nacelle
gamer burnout moment
fast iron
0s: reload starts
0.4s: ammunition removed and you start fitting the new mag
1.6s: new magazine in and you start cocking the weapon
2s: ammunition refilled, ready to shoot again, and honestly i'm not entirely sure how this took significantly shorter than the stated reload time
rocky nacelle
back to stalker 2
stone fern
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j6ghLNzqp6mcrNAK0?invite=c...
whos yapping in the background
rocky nacelle
me
lean cairn
is this a real +3
sullen forge
yeah
sullen forge
true..
stone fern
i still havent recovered from when para made me play with the yapper
rocky nacelle
we made him die with grims twice
rocky nacelle
why are you complaining
stone fern
had to hit em with the "no abla english"
stone fern
we made him die with grims twice
he can die in silence
rocky nacelle
whitest man ever on soyker
"hmm i see"
"no habla ingles"
(tries to speak spanish)
rocky nacelle
definitely the type of individual to wear wrist sweat bands
sullen forge
those are a thing?
rocky nacelle
pretty sure people still have them now
median steeple
thats why you learn a real language like hieroglyphics
sullen forge
I get on shilltide
rocky nacelle
those are a thing?
sullen forge
me kill heretics
copper hawk
sullen forge
fucking asshole
fast iron
srsly tho is like the bolt pistol supposed to reload far faster than it states it's supposed to
spare talon
ignore cole being a loser thinking duos isnt good practice
I was saying that it wasn't good practice cuz we'd be slaughtered in havoc if we were as aggressive as we were there
rocky nacelle
well yeah
duh
you think im remotely being that over aggressive as gunker
in havoc
lmfao
its gonna be tug of war in havoc for sure
like the old HISTG days
sullen forge
Me thinks Havoc is going to play out where you let the enemies come to you first before you move forward
frosty herald
Tomorrow we duo para
light badge
tried to mark an ammo box I left for the team I made friends with
do you guys think it's marked clearly enough?
frosty herald
Para and i have so much aura there will be no enemy spawns
copper hawk
tried to mark an ammo box I left for the team I made friends with
do you guys t...
Lmfao
I hate hunt showdown
copper hawk
I HATE IT !!!!!
rocky nacelle
soz noob
median steeple
hater......
copper hawk
Shit ass poopoo butt game
frosty herald
hehe
hearty nebula
rocky nacelle
the toilet
frosty herald
the pants fit very well with this chest
light badge
I hate hunt showdown
y
rocky nacelle
its for bumpy weird people
silence cica alternate ego
pine steeple
its for bumpy weird people
That is the aesthetic yes
hearty nebula
fast iron
hmmm. 2s may be the minimal possible reload speed if you somehow instant cancel and resume the reload animation at every point possible, such as by taking out and stashing your grenade
rocky nacelle
yam
frosty herald
rocky nacelle
so cica
frosty herald
dorn
hearty nebula
frosty herald
(stole every single talent 1-1 lmao)
rocky nacelle
ember yew
this reminds me that i purchased Nioh 1 completed edition and never installed it
copper hawk
No matter how much i die or use shit builds i still manage to wipena team at least a match
ember yew
smh
frosty herald
this reminds me that i purchased Nioh 1 completed edition and never installed it
dont install it
frosty herald
youll uninstall at the tengu
ember yew
copper hawk
Never unable to go down rank to 5 or 4
rocky nacelle
just heard a christmas themed ad
frosty herald
(every single hit will paralize you)
rocky nacelle
ember yew
(every single hit will paralize you)
is there a para res?
copper hawk
Stuck playing against meta shitters who camp and refuse to push every match
zinc talon
so here's a fuckin fun one
copper hawk
It drove me a lil crazy
frosty herald
rocky nacelle
Stuck playing against meta shitters who camp and refuse to push every match
so hunt turns into tarkov at 6 stars
LOL
frosty herald
is there a para res?
you get 20 anti paralyses needles
zinc talon
hearty nebula
just heard a christmas themed ad
i heard one while getting groceries yesterday and i straight up just about ditched my cart & left
zinc talon
just in case you ever doubted that your targetting reticle was a true 3d object
look at that sight
zinc talon
and how it rangefinds your end target
frosty herald
you gringes are not jolly
rocky nacelle
ITS NOT DECEMBER
placid fiber
zinc talon
i heard one while getting groceries yesterday and i straight up just about ditch...
maybe if it wasn't just Mariah, in late october, every year every time
it's made me hate all I want for christmas is you
fast iron
wait lol also you know how revolvers seem to fire bullets the size of a truck i think I found out why
fast iron
smart_targeting_template = SmartTargetingTemplates.alternate_fire_bfg when you zoom in with both revolver marks, this gets used.
rocky nacelle
ah nvm found it
placid fiber
placid fiber
I did all games that time lol
hearty nebula
PSO2 aint that bad
rocky nacelle
it doesnt show your uninstalled games (if they have more hours)
hearty nebula
NG kind of mid but
storm crypt
NGS is mid
rocky nacelle
so you have to do the profile
placid fiber
Aw man... so close to greatness...
hearty nebula
I played it back on JP servers lol
zinc talon
