good to know
#zealot-class
south grove
stalwart is a piety node silly
grizzled aspen
Why would you want to do that?
fast iron
also question martyrdom: has anyone done the math on at what point it's equivalent damage wise to other nodes
remote lark
but thanks to fatshark you'd still only realistically need to kill like 1 less chaff or so to get back to full vs losing 10% crit
i know you've played alot longer than me but that just seems like a meme
grizzled aspen
Also yeah you cant run two keystones at once.
south grove
tac axe is the best on piety
mental coral
stalwart is a piety node silly
.> naming is hard
fast iron
also er wait doesn't matryrdom have this
remote lark
martyrdom is only a glass cannon if ur bad at dodging
my calculations were about chip damage from chaff
mental coral
Look if I can eat crusher overheads without dying that would be funny
fast iron
true but also stalwart gives your team +10% crit chance almost permanently
south grove
Look if I can eat crusher overheads without dying that would be funny
you have until death
rocky nacelle
@median steeple
remote lark
i don't think cole mean u also take that node
grizzled aspen
but thanks to fatshark you'd still only realistically need to kill like 1 less c...
Taxe has a 62% crit rate with stalwart.
5% inherent
15% piety
12% crit bonus stat
30% scourge
south grove
and it comes free with your vanilla zealot build
spare talon
but thanks to fatshark you'd still only realistically need to kill like 1 less c...
it makes the game comically easy
mental coral
you have until death
Yes but I mean eating an overhead without taking damage. Unless they changed it so you always take damage now
south grove
<@508465754832633896>
is your audio okay?
fast iron
meanwhile inexorable judgement is just... I guess toughness regen?
remote lark
Taxe has a 62% crit rate with stalwart.
5% inherent
15% piety
12% crit bonus sta...
i didn't realize scourge crit stacks actually
lol
south grove
Yes but I mean eating an overhead without taking damage. Unless they changed it ...
quite hard to do
remote lark
okay that makes a little more sense now
grizzled aspen
i didn't realize scourge crit stacks actually
Holy noob...
median steeple
<@508465754832633896>
Lmao
remote lark
shut the fuck up frog
median steeple
Freaky ass
grizzled aspen
shut the fuck up frog
Meat.
median steeple
Audio
elfin steppe
martyrdom is only a glass cannon if ur bad at dodging
Well, as long as you don't ever intentionally lose your health, you are gonna be tanky af.
spare talon
@median steeple lemme find the video where i just get shot a fuck ton and barely take any damage
fast iron
Holy noob...
at one point, we all were confused about something
south grove
I can tank one on vet with VoC and iron will, and the first mid tree talent
rocky nacelle
hey man i told you how ass first game load in is
south grove
I don't know the specific breakpoints for overhead tanking
rocky nacelle
first game load in, into a wipe is hilarious
south grove
but you shouldn't be doing it anyways
spare talon
idk why it pinged psycho
south grove
just dodge lmao
spare talon
fuck you discord
median steeple
<@508465754832633896> lemme find the video where i just get shot a fuck ton and ...
Getting shot at? Just say no!
Lmao
grizzled aspen
at one point, we all were confused about something
Lumii is like twice my account level and I knew this, he knows better, I promise.
fast iron
I don't know the specific breakpoints for overhead tanking
what's the breakpoints for 5 overheads, which is what you'll be taking if you don't dodge
remote lark
you can only tank a crusher hit if you take SoC
spare talon
@remote lark
grizzled aspen
He's just a DUMB MUTT.
median steeple
Nap time
south grove
what's the breakpoints for 5 overheads, which is what you'll be taking if you do...
I think you can only tank one at a time
so yea
remote lark
<@478232915772178462>
what am i looking for
south grove
don't tank overheads
remote lark
wat dis
spare talon
what am i looking for
just watch my toughness in this video
remote lark
actually
cole
if i'm right about being able to drop bromentum
stalwart is even more worth it
cause then chaff clear isn't crit dependent
lemme see here..
spare talon
the more crit you have inherently, the better stalwart is
south grove
cause then chaff clear isn't crit dependent
just curious, do you take both of the crit side nodes?
grizzled aspen
Damn, who taught the dog to think?
remote lark
yes
spare talon
because the right side is better for compensating and maintaining your crit/crit cdr
spare talon
but if you dont need it for crits/crit cdr
then you can use it for something else
remote lark
can't scourge handle that already
more crit on finesse weapons means more damage
generally better unless theres a different talent i neeeeeeeeeeed
remote lark
so most builds can tkae right side piety tree
south grove
so most builds can tkae right side piety tree
piety simp
rocky nacelle
all because we revive the stealth zealot and they immediately take the heal
remote lark
because the right side is better for compensating and maintaining your crit/crit...
i mean yeah but just with piety and scourge is enough to keep uptime on that stuff anyway
rocky nacelle
and theres only 1
grizzled aspen
Here's a question...
The 2nd left node on piety, the one that grants crit chance to your allies.
Does that stack with other piety zealouts?
upper tapir
i dont think so since its the same buff
south grove
Does that stack with other piety zealouts?
don't think so
spare talon
it doesnt
remote lark
WHAT THE FUCK
rocky nacelle
LOL
remote lark
grizzled aspen
Holy cringe.
rocky nacelle
bottom left node really sucks
south grove
this is why i dont even bother
do you remember that one E3 sounding guy
remote lark
HOW CAN 50 + 25% POWER AND AN UNARMORED PERK STILL NOT ONESHO A BRUISER
WHAT TEH FUCKKKK
south grove
I remember him telling us about his crit chance
remote lark
spare talon
that second point that would be on the lower right otherwise
is now up in good balance
for even more dr
mental coral
But blazing piety for more crit
median steeple
Because unarmored fucking sucks and shouldn't be in the game
grizzled aspen
I know it's a bad node but I was thinking of like, stacking 4 piety zealouts up and just being mad as fuck at the game to have permanent crits.
south grove
<:dorn:1307829266590994502>
dornfection
rocky nacelle
<:dorn:1307829266590994502>
disgusting coming from you
south grove
cole is turning
rocky nacelle
kys
grizzled aspen
(keep yourself safe)
twin wagon
Keep Yourself Safe
rocky nacelle
spare talon
i just needed an evil emote and that one was fresh in my mind
would you rather me post
median steeple
Yea
rocky nacelle
ye
rocky nacelle
ye
spare talon
ok
south grove
grizzled aspen
We don't dornpost here.
median steeple
Grub
grizzled aspen
Only Tintin does that.
median steeple
grizzled aspen
Being the supergrub that he is.
median steeple
Do you think he will evolve once he builds his cocoon
rocky nacelle
Do you think he will evolve once he builds his cocoon
lil vro aint cell
median steeple
Or will he become a bigger grub
rocky nacelle
hes done for
grizzled aspen
No, he will forever try and imitate Dorn as a megagrub.
autumn vector
I was under the impression no one went the left side of it. Then I met youtube videos. I admit I've never tried it. So maybe im making shity assumptions.
spare talon
I was under the impression no one went the left side of it. Then I met youtube v...
that was before the current update
south grove
Or will he become a bigger grub
I would like to go the good side of becoming good
rocky nacelle
I would like to go the good side of becoming good
too late
south grove
cole imitation would be ideal but I can't imitate cole
grizzled aspen
I would like to go the good side of becoming good
(here's a tip, you don't follow Dorn blindly to get good)
median steeple
I would like to go the good side of becoming good
Then release yourself from servitude
south grove
(here's a tip, you don't follow Dorn blindly to get good)
here's a tip
stop using agile
grizzled aspen
Now I don't use it.
spare talon
it was just 50% toughness restored when hitting 25 on piety, only able to be retriggered once it fell off
(also a hidden additional 2.5% toughness per melee kill which is nice but wasnt better than right side)
autumn vector
that was before the current update
Tbh we can already get so much DR it almost seems overkill. Idk.
I dont run it right now and I already feel incredibly tanky
grizzled aspen
only to get hooked on DS5
Last time I ran ds5 was like 2 weeks ago, eat shit.
median steeple
Honestly when it comes to dr there's no such thing as overkill
spare talon
I dont run it right now and I already feel incredibly tanky
yeah but you can be even more tanky and not really feel a difference if you have a weapon with good crit chance already
like it is NOTICABLE
autumn vector
Ill def give it a go
fathom helm
bottom left node really sucks
They should buff if by making it also give everyone an attack speed bonus.
remote lark
thsi is so confusing
autumn vector
I can already get so much crit with D4.
frosty herald
to noob to grub to super grub
spare talon
cuz i can now with this pathing i can take a 50, 25, and 25% dr/tdr in the same tree
rocky nacelle
They should buff if by making it also give everyone an attack speed bonus.
with the way pubbers are in melee, this would only break premades
(and it wouldnt stack anyway)
cause 
fathom helm
cause <:fatshark:1016285431194718278>
rip, would be nice if stuff stacked.
hot jolt
fathom helm
aura's should stack with diminishing returns as to not break the game.
rocky nacelle
but what if the starting aura is broken enough
i.e psyk aura
that diminishing returns wouldnt matter because its so good
fathom helm
i.e psyk aura
that's another problem entirely.
autumn vector
cuz i can now with this pathing i can take a 50, 25, and 25% dr/tdr in the same ...
Is this like a I run a D4 with uncanny, ripost or do I double down the crit and get shred? Uncany is great but D4 seems to be able to uh do funny thing without it
frosty herald
Get uncanny
fathom helm
the aura balance is wild, many are useless, some are meh and some are OP.
autumn vector
I could do both lol, ive tried it with right side an the amount of crit makes the uncan ny nearly unoticed
but that was in testing
spare talon
Is this like a I run a D4 with uncanny, ripost or do I double down the crit and ...
tbh ive not run ds4 without right side piety and precog/thrust
autumn vector
not in game
frosty herald
Or force rending with chastice
ember yew
didnt exist until this patch
maybe in havoc you can sacrifice 10% own crit chance for 10% team crit chance + TDR + a bit of toughness bonus per kill
but need a team be worth of that
autumn vector
I pgu like everyting so uh... no way im getting that bottom talent
median steeple
I would be funny if havoc is just chaos wastes
autumn vector
but ill try the tanky one for sure
twin wagon
Havoc is gonna be weaves
vestal portal
What's the dump stat on the Eviscerator?
ember yew
I would be funny if havoc is just chaos wastes
i hope not, cuz i want wastes here with all those silly perks
twin wagon
What's the dump stat on the Eviscerator?
The weapon itself
Mobility/defense
spare talon
@remote lark honestly the mk4 is the best candidate for bm considering every single one of its lights are side swipes
autumn vector
Havoc is gonna be weaves
Tbh Im wondering how much meta bullshitery we might see. I can see the LFG already. D4/Botlor Zealot required.
You arent allowed to run funny things kek
You jsut get fucked
ember yew
Tbh Im wondering how much meta bullshitery we might see. I can see the LFG alrea...
VoC Vet/Plasma lvl 500+
autumn vector
cause pugs are dupid
ember yew
fathom helm
I hope havoc isn't shit like weaves.
remote lark
<@478232915772178462> honestly the mk4 is the best candidate for bm considering ...
yeah i'm wondering about brutal momentum and shred instead of headtaker
the crit multpliers are huge for taxe and even with headtaekr + decimator fully stacked i BARELY oneshot one chaff, let alone cleave through it and kill the one behind it
twin wagon
Alpha there's a redditor mod for darktide
Where you can upvote or downvote people
remote lark
no way
autumn vector
Wtf
craggy python
i just lost my auric storm survivor cos someone shot a burster and it launched me off the map
so yay
spare talon
yeah i'm wondering about brutal momentum and shred instead of headtaker
the cri...
ive personally tested against crushers, who have the biggest benefit from crits, ht/bm and shred/bm
they are the same
dps numbers are so close
autumn vector
Alpha there's a redditor mod for darktide
Where you can upvote or downvote peop...
Thats so much big reddit energy its really not even surprising.
median steeple
Do you have a clip of me chasing you around with a stim
spare talon
it doesnt matter
ember yew
i just lost my auric storm survivor cos someone shot a burster and it launched m...
real darktide experience
rocky nacelle
Do you have a clip of me chasing you around with a stim
no cause i never turned around
LOL
so i didnt know
median steeple
I tried for like a min straight trying to heal you
frosty herald
it doesnt matter
How hard you try keep that in mind when the time is right
remote lark
ive personally tested against crushers, who have the biggest benefit from crits,...
the crusher damage being really close is good
I'm just curious if horde clear then would be more consistent with shred/bm instead of ht/bm, since crits deal double damage to unarmored/flak and 25% power i don't thin kdelivers that kind of damage
rocky nacelle
was I just out running you the whole time?
frosty herald
Bro was in that jiren roshi mode
remote lark
actually, i wonder if a crit will cleave through chaff without ht...
spare talon
the crusher damage being really close is good
I'm just curious if horde clear t...
horde clear is better with HT absolutely
remote lark
:(
i want you to be wrong
i don't like how it feels when some attacks cleave and some don't
grrr
median steeple
Plug your ears and go lalala
ember yew
actually, i wonder if a crit will cleave through chaff without ht...
i have like 200+ matches with tax4, i'd say i like BM+HT better either way
median steeple
It works for the rest of us
autumn vector
zzzz this zealot is going to be great to have around
remote lark
autumn vector
Loaner
median steeple
## ON HOW TO MOVE ##
I'm on mobile so these messages are hilarious
remote lark
i have like 200+ matches with tax4, i'd say i like BM+HT better either way
i do too, but im beinga numbers nerd right now
median steeple
Just pounds for no reason
grizzled aspen
i do too, but im beinga numbers nerd right now
You will never be as cool as numbers cat.
median steeple
HOLY PEAK
median steeple
No
ember yew
fat
median steeple
3VEG is peak and I will hear no slander
rocky nacelle
wheres noobass
spare talon
i assume yes
it is but not for you, youre the only one its multiplicitive for
vague depot
What’s 3veg again
remote lark
:(
vague depot
Nvm
remote lark
What’s 3veg again
fun
vague depot
Nvm I didn’t scroll up
rocky nacelle
holy fucking shit
howd i not realize to do this sooner
should have named my DBarrel on gunker Boomstick McShootington
full nebula
I like pretty much all of the enhanced blitz ones because fragbomb go boom 
Mostly melee up there as a favorite too
rocky nacelle
it is but not for you, youre the only one its multiplicitive for
refinery delta
3veg
definitely not duo
(I want to start using my gunker in duos)
median steeple
spare talon
lemme be a schizo first rq
rocky nacelle
candian
rocky nacelle
the timeline after we lost
rocky nacelle
https://tenor.com/view/ready-gun-chainsaw-gif-10358244
spare talon
:(
im about to drop my only theoretical knowledge that i havent actually tested
but if you are crazy as i am maybe you might see my logic and why im actually the next coming of the god emperor
rocky nacelle
https://tenor.com/view/ready-gun-chainsaw-gif-10358244
me when DBarrel can deal with a mauler pack
median steeple
Ah sweet schizo ramblings
frosty herald
Para how do you make psyker work
frosty herald
I eat shit alot and die in like 3 hits
Running out of dodges all the time and such
rocky nacelle
unironically this might help on DEF
remote lark
im about to drop my only theoretical knowledge that i havent actually tested
but...
elaborate
rocky nacelle
rocky nacelle
stamina regen gives me alot of lee way to almost be sprinting 24/7
and still be able to stop for a nano second and shove
due to knife+soyker stam regen on top of my curios
spare talon
elaborate
this is the cleave damage profile for the diagonal taxe attacks
it falls off really sharply, and has a hitmass of 3, like 2 poxwalkers or 3 groaners
headtaker is strength, so it increases the cleave of this, so at the end of a swing youre gonna be tickling a few of them and not killing them, even if its a crit swing
so now you have these extra bleeding enemies that werent instantly killed from the cleave bonus, helping you stack scourge
now youre easily and reliably stacking it constantly from the cleave buffs from headtaker
frosty herald
So stamina regen health?
south grove
I gotta make a mobility dump braced auto
rocky nacelle
Running out of dodges all the time and such
south grove
I feel like staggermaxxing todau
rocky nacelle
abusing KD, knowing when to shove, and when to abuse my movement speed for kiting/escaping is very important, its important in general but soyker more so considering you're a wet napkin 24/7
frosty herald
As far as i know psyker doesnt have alot of DR talents
rocky nacelle
they dont
im running them on my DBarrel build though
ill show
heres my "defense"
frosty herald
Maybe greatsword will help me on psyker
spare talon
(it will not)
frosty herald
fuck
rocky nacelle
remote lark
this is the cleave damage profile for the diagonal taxe attacks
it falls off rea...
what does strength actually do again
i thought it was just damage
spare talon
what does strength actually do again
strength, formerly power
is damage, impact, and cleave, all rolled into one
remote lark
gotcha
spare talon
and it is a seperate value from damage, it multiplies with it
median steeple
this is the cleave damage profile for the diagonal taxe attacks
it falls off rea...
Holy schizo (ngl sounds reasonable)
frosty herald
Where does the 4 come from
spare talon
power/strength fuckin whatever
frosty herald
Cole schizo arc?
spare talon
Where does the 4 come from
its 100 x 1.2 x 1.2
rocky nacelle
heres the real trick behind my DBarrel gunker and the reason I call it warp specialist
south folio
rocky nacelle
So stamina regen health?
for soyker id go 2TNess 1HP on every loadout
spare talon
arco is always summoned right when the schizo math side of darktide is spoken about
rocky nacelle
im at 205hp on my gunker with 120 toughness (cause I have no tness sub perks on my curios)
south folio
arco is always summoned right when the schizo math side of darktide is spoken ab...
grrrrrrrr HNNHGNGHNGNNHG
median steeple
He sits on his throne ever vigilant for his chance
south folio
this is why we remember our multiplication tables
spare talon
grrrrrrrr HNNHGNGHNGNNHG
is this the sound you make when you turn into a brick wall
median steeple
For that is his eternal duty
south folio
maybe
rocky nacelle
I think you just have to get used to playing soyker in melee more yam
esp if you're gonna go into a scriers/gunker build
frosty herald
He sits on his throne ever vigilant for his chance
frosty herald
I think you just have to get used to playing soyker in melee more yam
I try
But i want to run scrier melee instead of venting shriek
spare talon
arco always looking from his throne ready to scare the passersby with desmos screenshots
rocky nacelle
do you abuse force push?
frosty herald
I can use heavies on hammer or lights on mk15 evis to stagger everything infront of me for breathing room
I do
zinc talon
I have more survivability with the agni shock maul than the illisi
the sword is kill or be killed, there's no stun or stagger to it aside from the single target push
shock maul has plenty of bonk
rocky nacelle
@spare talon
spare talon
who are these people
rocky nacelle
zinc talon
rocky nacelle
i wish i knew
remote lark
heres the real trick behind my DBarrel gunker and the reason I call it warp spec...
can the reload make you pop or no
rocky nacelle
rocky nacelle
can the reload make you pop or no
no
remote lark
that's pretty neat
remote lark
db doesn't have a ton of ammo though
so how does that pan out
for that build to work you'd need to be shooting alot i think
rocky nacelle
frosty herald
I have more survivability with the agni shock maul than the illisi
This might be good advice
But im gonna wait until greatsword
rocky nacelle
and never to me
same reason you get creatures in board
my creatures seem to lurk on the ship
spare talon
i may try this out
with the IIb lasgun
zinc talon
the agni's attack combo chains are identical to the crusher's
so if you've used one you're comfortable with the other
it's as nimble as a knife and lets you hold heavy attacks like, five full seconds if you want it
and it can single target stun anything smaller than a field boss
spare talon
@rocky nacelle is throwing
rocky nacelle
how make it private from mmt menu box chat thingamajig
spare talon
if you havent updated mmt in a while
its in mod settings
if you have, then it matches your terminal options
zinc talon
oh, huh, I figured it was just tied to public/private grouping in the terminal
spare talon
either way
its literally on the board
frosty herald
I miss double maelstroms
vague depot
But im gonna wait until greatsword
Wait we getting a greatsword?
molten isle
is there any reason to take heavy sword over dueling sword
vague depot
Better horde clear and that’s about it
vague depot
Dueling sword is just the #1 zealot melee I’m pretty sure
hot jolt
frosty herald
Actual brainrot from monster hunter
vague depot
I was expecting like a ogryn sized slab with a handle on one end
ember yew
That doesn’t look big to me
I think they are less size than mk15 evis
molten isle
i thought our greatsword was the eviscerator
frosty herald
A DAGGER
hot jolt
That better be one huge ass book or something
thats a table
hot jolt
cups on it
vague depot
Swear to god it looks like a book
frosty herald
cups on it
vague depot
Those are cups?
Wow I’m actually steam broiled
Ok yea that’s a pretty big sword
Maybe sword and shield level I still don’t see how you can two hand it
frosty herald
A long hilt...
molten isle
it even has a metal thingy that indicates it
frosty herald
The bottom sword looks better with the all metal look
spare talon
my brother in christ
we stayed there cuz you needed that medpack
rocky nacelle
i was KDing and healing
so i thought it was fine
tbh
also I didnt know your UD was down
i thought that launch was gonna be fine
fucked up cause I potentially could have snagged you on the vault door respawn
but then pogryn just spartan kicked my ass into the next zone
LOL
spare talon
also I didnt know your UD was down
most silent mutant
rocky nacelle
oh yea
that explains it
that corner was so aids
thats why I didnt jump down immediately immediately
cause they always jumpscare ambush you there
either way we got robbed by fatshark themselves
spare talon
anyway time to bug report that door :)
rocky nacelle
most silent mutant
nice audio
i hear the mutie like 10 feet away
(is 1 centimeter behind you)
spare talon
nice audio
YOU DIDNT SET IT TO PRIVATE
spare talon
YOU CAN PRIVATE MMT IT
spare talon
mmt doesnt show up in my mod list in game
then that means it is updated
rocky nacelle
ah
spare talon
do you have your terminal set to private
rocky nacelle
no
spare talon
then thats why
spare talon
nice audio
this is the real thing that ended that run tho
frosty herald
rocky nacelle
if I had a red stimm i woulda 180d with dbarrel scriers so hard
i think i had a blue one though
slender belfry
Shiettt
I’m stuck at penace
How to do the penace “complete a match without taking any health dmg”
And the “serial killer”
remote lark
@spare talon yeah you're right lmfao
a crit with shred/bm does LESS damage to the second poxwalker than decimator/ht did
let alone the multi kill that bm/ht would give
Sigh.
spare talon
im always right
remote lark
ok dorn
spare talon
(i did testing and said "this feels better but idk numbers")
frosty herald
How to do the penace “complete a match without taking any health dmg”
Sedition
And make sure your toughness is always maxxed out
frosty herald
If its the vet penance abuse infiltrate threat reduction
slender belfry
Okey thank brothar
remote lark
actually
@spare talon with bm/ht
non crit
i wonder if i could just tweak the build a smidge to hit the unarmored bp..
even something like distain would be noticeable
hmm..
wait
do poxwalkers have more hp than regular chaff?
could i cheese horde clear with purge the unclean
lol
hmm
autumn vector
Tried. Tbh seems fine with Riposte/Uncanny D4. Was much tankier for sure. Uptime was something I was watching but tbh I dont think i really need to worry cause if your team and you are genning enough kills for the extra DR you dont really need it in that situation it seems like. Really didn't notice to huge a difference in damage*. Less critting but D4 is stupid and it felt like chip damage just had a crazy hard time getting through. Like tanking a couple walkers on a console and not losing health level of dr.
spare talon
do poxwalkers have more hp than regular chaff?
yes
twin wagon
rocky nacelle
so lame
that run was fine and then everytime i got downed it was just gunner or reaper stunlock from a shit angle
autumn vector
Oh and I've discovered my PC lags in auric mael and everyone else is dead and im leading the conog line of enemies around. Back to 1080 for me
nearly died to a frame drop on a dog
autumn vector
Fuck i want to play another but stupid job is stupid
remote lark
taking purge the unclean lets me oneshot poxwalkers
this makes horde clear way more consistent
frosty herald
Ofc not lmao
remote lark
and helps with cleave / other issues from the extra poxwalkers it otherwise would leave behind
frosty herald
Id dodge left
remote lark
noobmato
rocky nacelle
guess what
spare talon
rocky nacelle
also the one with his weapon down is the one that hit me apparently
frosty herald
Noob to noob communication
frosty herald
Owtw?
frosty herald
Oh
spare talon
never seen anyone call this anything other than peril tdr
frosty herald
I should get that
And remove the decreased peril generation
Which also lowers toughness gain
They should have more stronger talents with a downside attached to it
rocky nacelle
Noob to noob communication
you cant blame me for getting hit by that overhead
ngl
frosty herald
Alat just to get hit
solar gorge
lmao
frosty herald
Just heavy stab the heada
rocky nacelle
did you see the double overhead decapitation i barely dodged lmfao
frosty herald
Yes
rocky nacelle
frosty herald
That wouldve been a down
solar gorge
mauler lag switching
stiff hawk
How do y’all level multiple characters without losing your minds? Getting started on a zealot after playing vet for a long time and it seems I always get matched with clueless nublets who spend more time dead than alive.
rocky nacelle
from playing in the duo though
that build is more than fine enough to run it
as I thought
its just playing gunker in a duo is the real challenge
(good)
frosty herald
Ill carry you with chorus
spare talon
How do y’all level multiple characters without losing your minds? Getting starte...
you think we havent?
spare talon
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j8tdx7yNDKS8Q9GBo?invite=c...
Jumpscare
frosty herald
How do y’all level multiple characters without losing your minds? Getting starte...
Leveling is a slog
Most sub 30 players are actual creatures
That you should observe
spare talon
Maybe cole and Para duos would be better if they weren't at 4-5 fucking am
hot jolt
Most sub 30 players are actual creatures
who touch grass?
rocky nacelle
yam is a rare post 30 creature
solar gorge
yeah but you can easily hard carry on lower diffs so it balance things out
rocky nacelle
Maybe cole and Para duos would be better if they weren't at 4-5 fucking am
yes
spare talon
yeah but you can easily hard carry on lower diffs so it balance things out
Harder to do so when you're low level too
rocky nacelle
not my fault you play poopmium files
spare talon
not my fault you play poopmium files
I literally worked till 1 am today stinker
You smell of egg
rocky nacelle
You smell of egg
solar gorge
Harder to do so when you're low level too
i level'd up another psyker for farming blessings at melk (i was bored)
i don't think i went down once
for the whole reaching lvl 30 thing
staves are balanced
rocky nacelle
I farmed for shotgun clips in these duos
ngl cole
need more dbarrel propaganda that has like 0 assail
only for soykers to just say use a staff anyway cause they fucking suck
but oh well
frosty herald
Harder to do so when you're low level too
Chorus
twin wagon
you cant blame me for getting hit by that overhead
bad positioning
kn*fe
grave cypress
when you find out the shredder doesnt have marks
solar gorge
only for soykers to just say use a staff anyway cause they fucking suck
psyker's ds/plasma except they also get to use the ds and the plasma
rocky nacelle
basically
@misty nova @spare talon @frosty herald https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j8tmKeuHOTxppo7F3?invite=cr-MSxtZXksMzAyNTAyNTYyLA
grave cypress
thanks for teh free resources whoever disconnected that made me load into the lose end screen
misty nova
rocky nacelle
(for me anyway)
misty nova
Hmm yeah I guess I can see why you don't have Cruel Fortune
rocky nacelle
after downloading the buff improvement mod and turning it on I find to be consistently at 10 and up w/o cruel fortune
pretty useful to finally see DD stacks
raven swan
I have not played in an year, If someone can help me what is still viable for Zaelot at higher Diffs I will be thankful
obtuse solstice
why do people like dclaw7 over 4
runic grotto
I have not played in an year, If someone can help me what is still viable for Za...
Knife is as op as ever
Though eviscerator XV is my favourite
runic grotto
Did you play before or after patch 13
raven swan
Did you play before or after patch 13
Dont know honestly, last time I played was last christmass when we killed twins
rocky nacelle
@frosty herald no duos until we start 3v3ing in sparking
fast iron
could be 3% better
misty nova
Shred Rampage if going left Keystone
Or Shred Perfect Strike
Then flak unyielding perks
Or Flak Elites
Or Rampage Bloodthirsty if martyrdom or IJ
spare talon
I have not played in an year, If someone can help me what is still viable for Za...
Everything if build correctly
Ranged weapons are a different boat, they pretty much exist to fill whatever role your melee is bad at
So some just kinda suck on zealot
But every melee is more than viable
rocky nacelle
Ranged weapons are a different boat, they pretty much exist to fill whatever rol...
so what’s the auto pistol sh-
fast iron
so what’s the auto pistol sh-
auto pistol suppresses, is quick(ish) to swap to, and I think is decent at killing closeish range flak? 
rocky nacelle
Not a bad sales pitch
fast iron
also it might have a lotta ammo iunno
rocky nacelle
it do
fast iron
it's basically revolver for people who can't aim for shit
and also want suppression I guess
(really I just 100% remember the suppression was why it was used before, it was nerfed, and I figure it's still good at suppression cause.... well otherwise it kinda sucks yeah)
misty nova
Ok so this is the point where I recommend the Graia IV Brauto since that one is better at ammo and suppression 
Kek
fast iron
Ok so this is the point where I recommend the Graia IV Brauto since that one is ...
ok sure possibly but uh
misty nova
Funny Toughness replenish build
rocky nacelle
Something something
fast iron
i mean a psyker build with combat knife and autopistol might be funny
rocky nacelle
use dbarrel and agri revo
grave cypress
alright the shredder autopistol, do people hate it cause its underpowered, or do they hate it cause the ammo economy is shit, or did I just have the most greedy fucking game of teammates in my life
fast iron
or you could evolve knife zealot and go EVEN FURTHER BEYOND
grave cypress
I literally pick all 3 up from being captured that game, they still hog all the ammo leaving me with nothing
veteran has his smokes all game firing them off like its nothing
im not getting anything all game
misty nova
alright the shredder autopistol, do people hate it cause its underpowered, or do...
Underpowered
grave cypress
Okay, cause the ammo seems decent, just wondered why I was running out
fast iron
i could probably look at autopistol code I guess to try and figure out what it might be good at other things isn't
grave cypress
No one in this game knows how to deal with maniacs anyway they all die to them
runic grotto
Savage sweep imo useless, just get rampage and a new perfect evis with 60 in mobility
misty nova
SAP has like 2 suppression value per shot when braced but like Brautos have 4 to 8
Accatran Shotgun has 8 on normal and 15 on fire shot
runic grotto
not a fan of agripinna, but I think it's ok. Since you killed the twins, talents should be mostly unchanged. All blitz, abilities, auras and keystones are good
Except loner, you only ever take loner for better pathing, but I think you already know that
slender belfry
which class are easy for doing full penace ?
i need more point to reach 4500 penaces point
runic grotto
I have not played in an year, If someone can help me what is still viable for Za...
Oh, I completely forgot. Zealot and vet now have dueling swords. Those were good on psyker, but psyker has ASS melee. On zealot and vet these are fucking overpowered.
Also try out the new thunderhammer. Still not the meta, but just really good now.
fast iron
(had ass melee)
runic grotto
Still has tbf. It's not bad, but compared to zealot and vet it's ass.
The only thing that made the DS somewhat balanced and not totally gamebraking was that psyker doesn't have much melee.
fast iron
i mean psyker also has really fast swaps I believe apparently
runic grotto
Now that zealot and vet can buff DS with a shit ton of talents, it's just broken. Giving this weapon to other classes was a mistake. Now it's either bad on psyker and balanced on zealot and vet, or good for psyker but completely op for the others. I really wish they just remove this weapon for other classes (I am psyker main and slightly biased)
raven swan
Oh, I completely forgot. Zealot and vet now have dueling swords. Those were good...
Duelign swords. lol
fast iron
counterpoint: buff psyker melee more.
runic grotto
But that's a bunch of work reworking the tree and adding new talents. Doubt fatshark will do that.
fast iron
other than the bunch of work they've been doing reworking the tree and adding new talents
runic grotto
So my only hope is that they don't nerf DS making it just a worse illisi or deimos
misty nova
I mean
Illisi has no real strikedowns
runic grotto
It doesn't need strikedowns
Get uncanny and it either oneshots or nearly oneshots crushers on 5 stacks
And even without uncanny it's special is still amazing
misty nova
Get uncanny and it either oneshots or nearly oneshots crushers on 5 stacks
You need at least 3 activated strikes since they'll deal ~1k damage with uncanny
runic grotto
You need at least 3 activated strikes since they'll deal ~1k damage with uncanny
yes? I haven't played melee psyker maybe you're right
ohhhh, maybe I was playing with scriers gaze?
fast iron
imo smite heavy melee talent should be buffed, and the every 15 seconds brain burst thing should be reworked into something that could be useful for gunkers or swordkers
also gib more ways to gain warp pls
literally if there was a talent that was like "your minimum warp is 80%" that would be super tempting
runic grotto
imo smite heavy melee talent should be buffed, and the every 15 seconds brain bu...
SO TRUE
runic grotto
also gib more ways to gain warp pls
remind me, can you stack peril with deimos now?
Or is it still the illisi exclusive ability?
fast iron
afaik you always could with like all the swords? at least as long as you have like... sword repositories
fast iron
if you can cancel with stamina, you can special, hit someone, dodge cancel, then special again and you'll have stamina again in half a second
runic grotto
afaik you always could with like all the swords? at least as long as you have li...
Spam special was always only available for the illisi, to do this on deimos you had to swap after every activation
fast iron
(oh yeah you could also just buff dueling sword by nerfing the sword but buffing the push attack. psykers use the best push attacks)
misty nova
With the Deimos you have to use special, swap, swap back special again
Rinse and repeat
runic grotto
yes
Illisi you can just spam special for free peril
One of the reasons why I prefer illisi over DS most of the time
misty nova
There was a bug earlier on UnL that didn't let you build peril by spamming Illisi special
Those were sad days
runic grotto
That was a global bug for all special activated weapons
misty nova
fast iron
oh yeah also i'd like it if scrier's gaze wasn't the only ability for gunkers/swokers
(also i'm cursing you with those names now)
runic grotto
Well, gunker is a subclass, I'm fine with it being a smaller part of psyker
fast iron
ok also you could just like rework that. that would be nice.
cause the alternative is. Uh. this.
hmmm. not entirely sure how to interpret damage there.
power distribution: attack 250 cleave 0.125. bleeding is 'only' 175 attack distribution
and burning is 400(huh)
oh right there's complicated adms too 
also yeah i just tested it you can dodge cancel other specials
fast iron
also 
fast iron
Pyromancy
you mean like flamers
flamers are cool
the grenades are mostly annoying because I don't know if they'll burn me to a crisp or it's cool holy fire that doesn't hurt me
acoustic dune
also <a:ablobnervous:635255841330692107>
acoustic dune
the grenades are mostly annoying because I don't know if they'll burn me to a cr...
I meant on psyker
fast iron
oh
i mean it's like the best way to play smite apparentkly
smite to 86%(off memory), venting shriek to burn them all, then there's also the inferno staff that can just clear hordes too and then you just... iunno use a silly knife or something and stab people in the eye
acoustic dune
Playing smyker is a crime in it itself
I was thinking brain burst with flame soyker
fast iron
Playing smyker is a crime in it itself
venting shriek smyker reverses that crime by actually rapidly killing enemies
misty nova
also <a:ablobnervous:635255841330692107>
Why the long face
acoustic dune
venting shriek smyker reverses that crime by actually rapidly killing enemies
Assail flame staff n venting
Maybe
I will doge smite at all cost
fast iron
anyway that would still work well IMO yes. Venting Shriek with the flames, blain blurst with the combat ability talent, CDR aura, and probably iunno figure out which one of the three keystones you like the most
obviously all the soulfire talents, inferno staff
maybe be spicy with illisi and the blaze on critical hit talent
acoustic dune
Speaking of psychedelic build
I should do one that's just a pox bursted build
Become da bomb
As they say
misty nova
Ain't no way you'll play Crystalline will
I must tell you it's bad
But I can't stop you
fast iron
I should do one that's just a pox bursted build
all wounds?
acoustic dune
All wound
fast iron
and tbh yeah it's kinda bad the only way it might be good is if a zealot with the corruption thing somehow helps you
also fatshork would need to heavily buff the explosion damage because it's so weak
acoustic dune
also fatshork would need to heavily buff the explosion damage because it's so we...
So true so true
Make it a skill point
Like bigger then a ogryn nuke
fast iron
action_fling_target this is hilarious tbh
fast iron
Make it a skill point
perhaps a buff to crystalline will, mayhaps? :p
acoustic dune
perhaps a buff to crystalline will, mayhaps? :p
And make it friendly damage
It will be funny
fast iron
no.
[armor_types.super_armor] = damage_lerp_values.no_damage hmm unsure what super_armor is
raven swan
I never used knife on a zaelot maybe I should try?
misty nova
also fatshork would need to heavily buff the explosion damage because it's so we...
Stack Uncanny and Slaughterer with Illisi then overload with the special
"Good" boom
fast iron
I never used knife on a zaelot maybe I should try?
honestly knife is fun
misty nova
I never used knife on a zaelot maybe I should try?
Avoid bleed blessings and always aim for weakspots
fast iron
it's got the lowest sprint speed cost in the game I recall, and highest sprint speed
take out knife and you just go nyoom
raven swan
Sounds cool but feels cringe for me without good axe or evi hmm
fast iron
berserker is maniac I think, disgusting_resilent is probably unyielding, void_shield is obvious('toughness'), player also obvious ,then uhhhh... armored and resistant? Armored is flka and resistant is infected?
fast iron
Sounds cool but feels cringe for me without good axe or evi hmm
i mean try it out
south folio
resistant is unyielding
disgustingly resilient is infested
fast iron
ah ok
south folio
i think the in-code names are from the table-top?
misty nova
resistant is unyielding
disgustingly resilient is infested
Pretty good name
south folio
when the resilience is disgusting
runic grotto
Should I change anything?
fast iron
autopistol wield time 0.2s i thiiiiink
no wait 0.4 that's the 'buffer time' 
oh right that's if you do it during another action i think
fast iron
that'll teach em not to fuck around when extraction is there
nimble fiber
fast iron
DID YOU KNOW: aiming down sights for an autopistol significantly increases it's stagger power?
north sedge
Yea you flex your biceps into making the bullet stronger
Unfortunately its still autopistol
fast iron
as in, it doubles the impact of it while also greatly increasing the accumulative value
north sedge
Yea this is old news, from back when autopistol was fucked up strong
misty nova
Pinning Fire value
remote lark
Rashad, Achylys or Antax?
rashad with headtaker and brutal momentum on an inexorable judgement keystone build
or martyr
runic grotto
Should I change anything?
That's what I made
fast iron
also when suppressed there is apparently a suppressed attack delay hmm
runic grotto
sadge
remote lark
i'll get you a build, one moment
runic grotto
north sedge
Change the perks too, don't need unarmoured
fast iron
also apparently you can shoot 0.25 seconds before the autopistol animation finishes
runic grotto
I thought I needed unarmored for the breakpoint?
remote lark
no
rashad is broken
unless im super wrong
but 99% sure you take flak for horde clear breakpoint
not unarmored
north sedge
I thought I needed unarmored for the breakpoint?
Not on zealot
north sedge
Unarmoured is for vet, and psyker i imagine
fast iron
modifier = {
lerp_basic = 0.5,
lerp_perfect = 1.5,
},
}``` humweapon_template.weapon_temperature_settings = { barrel_threshold = 0.4, decay_rate = 0.075, grace_time = 0.4, increase_rate = 0.075, use_charge = false, } also this is why i love darktide the effects are so cool
barrels heat up and glooooow
remote lark
What can I remove to get invocation of death?
drop annoint/purge and good balance for it if you want
its worth it if you use fotf correctly
otherwise good balance DR and the damage from purge against ogryns and the extra bps annoint will give your bolt pistol are pretty consistently good
personal preference
sonic vessel
god I fucking hate having to wait for my idiot teamate to drop dead so i can take his ammo box when refill the rest of the team who was starving on ammo (he forgot he had the ammo box and we were full on hordes so couldn't write)
full nebula
Darktide needs a hookrat equivalent
We have trappers, but you stay put
Need something that drags people away other than nurgle
tropic pelican
mutants should just not stop
sonic vessel
asking for ammo is useless if he forgot he doesnt have the box
he'll be like "fine, find ammo, then!"
he doesù
vast basin
If you spam it enough he will realize
vast basin
If he is too greedy to drop it just barrel them
sonic vessel
like I said, not greedy, just forgot he picked it up
he was even out of ammo himself
twin wagon
asking for ammo is useless if he forgot he doesnt have the box
Get him killed
sonic vessel
I just had to wait, benefits of having twice their health as ogryn
vestal spade
i had that a few rounds ago with a medi pack. dude sat on it for so long, i was spamming need heals, i even threw down the ammo pack and spam pinged it and need heals. had to stop and type and they dropped it a couple seconds later
so they couldnt understand "i need healing" pings, but could read what i typed
lol
sonic vessel
I think some people spam when they open boxes and don't even see what they grab
they just take it
vestal spade
but then sometimes i will hold an ammo box out of spite, when someone is hoovering ammo and spamming ranged 24-7 then wants the ammo pack? nah i will hold onto it for a bit longer
sonic vessel
I mean, if they are the only one needing ammo, it'd be a waste of ressources
just let them starve a bit til they find ammo around themselves
vestal spade
if its like that i dont mind, but if other people are using ranged less coz everyone is sitting around half and the shooty boi is just yoinking every ammo pack and not sharing, they can get fkd
i will take that ammo pack to evac unless i feel i need it lol
present for hadron
its always gungryns or bad vets too
very rarely a brauto zealot
fast iron
yeah pistols are werd.
i mean I guess this like technically exists? but uh
ah. it used to be much stronger. hmm
Oh.
north sedge
It's why autopilot was one of the strongest guns if not strongest back in the day
Typo but I'm not fixing that, it fits
misty nova
Pocket A10 warthog back then
vestal spade
was a big hit to the bolter too
runic grotto
drop annoint/purge and good balance for it if you want
how much do I need thy wraft be swift really?
fast iron
ok i'm jealous of veteran and zealot melee stuff now :c
runic grotto
I will
remote lark
runic grotto
remote lark
have fun being staggered by gunners
and chaff out of your heavy attacks
and stunlocked by gunners
let the hate flow through you ... .
hate gunners............
yessssss
fast iron
have fun being staggered by gunners
i mean with dodge into slide chaining gunners do like zero damage
runic grotto
I always get 36% gunner resist on curious
remote lark
i mean with dodge into slide chaining gunners do like zero damage
no sound cue means eventually you'll just get stunlocked in front of a horde
or in a particular hairy scenario no twbs will just straight up get you killed
it's REALLY hard to close distance to a gunner if you have no toughness
its one of zealots best talents - you get some form of value out of it every game
kind of like until death / revenant
you think you'll be fine without it
but the moment you could have used it
you'll just be annoyed for the rest of the match
qol is real
fast iron
i mean i don't disagree on being so great
runic grotto
thy wrath be swift is amazing
remote lark
strictly speaking you can totally play without it, especially if you're really good at dodging and stuff and movement
but sometimes you just get darktided
runic grotto
But some weapons benefit from it more than others
remote lark
theres also a copium talent you can take instead of it
i think its called judgement
bottom left first node into piety tree
has same effect just needs to ramp up
if theres something real good you could take with that 1 talent point the nmaybe?
fast iron
oh thy wrath be swift hmm
remote lark
but there's really not
fast iron
i mean i just stab people
remote lark
ah yea punishment
thats what i meant
bad talent compared to twbs
but if u neeeeeed that extra point then its okay
fast iron
FIX BACKSTAB HITBOX AND MY LIFE IS YOUUUURRRRRRRSSSSSS
how's it broken
remote lark
have you ever paid attention when you use it