zealot-class

[modern lintel]

the easiest way to describe it is green is good yellow mid red verge of death of the gun and the lower it goes from green the higher the chance of a misfire/jam

[rocky nacelle]

whichever one is not the french woman

and not the old lady

iirc those are seer and enforcer

or whatever the other one is called beside loner/seer

[modern lintel]

but unless its a full auto and youre just pissing bullets weapon durability isnt super tedious

[fast iron]

i like the french woman psyker :c she's funny if heretical

[vernal terrace]

That does sound better I hate the lets say fallout 76 repair thing where your weapon goes from functioning just fine in your hand to exploding and being unusable that’s annoying

[fast iron]

not that zealots will do anything about her because she's still 100% dedicated to THE EMPEROR

[vernal terrace]

It’s like games like this were like omg that thing Minecraft does is so cool

[fast iron]

even if she doesn't talk to her Beloved

[modern lintel]

ye even when it jams u just have to hit the reload key and it does a little animation to fix it of course can be catastrophic depending on situation still

[frosty herald]

savant psyker is legit an enforcer

[rocky nacelle]

yea savant

there ya go

[ornate bone]

Weapon repair in games with resource management are very hit or miss

[fast iron]

which one is the savant and which gender

[rocky nacelle]

grandma soyker / my beloved >>>>

french woman is OP though

[ornate bone]

You might be perpetually annoyed, or just so good at resourcing that you never have an issue anyway

Same goes for hunger and thirst systems

[fast iron]

tbh i know of like... the beloved psyker, the 'jamacian' psyker, and french woman psyker

[rocky nacelle]

the jamaican psyker

is crazy

💀

[ornate bone]

Oh wow I'm hungry, maybe I'll eat one of the 56 cheese wedges I shoved up my ass earlier

[rocky nacelle]

bioshock infinite

booker being a singularity/black hole for every and any item

[modern lintel]

avrg ogryn lore

[frosty herald]

de pussiclat rinda

https://tenor.com/view/bomboclat-jamaica-gif-9174778478870192122

[ornate bone]

AH MAN DIS ONE BUMBACLAT

[sullen forge]

MI BOMBOCLATT 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[frosty herald]

psyker has such a thick jamaican accent literally no one understands him

[solar gorge]

the enforcer one ?

i understand him clearly personally

[frosty herald]

https://youtube.com/shorts/MStFoTDjV5E?si=3tm-1nILYPa-GRpK

[frosty herald]

(if psyker was actualy jamaican)

[fast iron]

if you think they have a thick jamacian accent you have not played GTA4 a lot lol

[solar gorge]

what they should do is a real unintelligible scotish accent

but alas no balls

[fast iron]

oh right level 14 zealot, no heresy for me

er

damnation

can still do heresy but

god the score system mod 'total score' is such a joke

[misty nova]

Savant is the one with cold killer lines for Assail

[fast iron]

i like the START RUNNIIIIIING~ of the french woman

also she sounds like a socialist to me and i like that

rampage/savage sweep/shred/bloodthirsty but rampage is 100%

[light badge]

one of these things is not like the other

[rocky nacelle]

that is you on the right

i already know it

[solar gorge]

uncler bob

racist at the dinner table

[fast iron]

are you sure savage sweep, I thought there was like a 4 cleave limit on the eviscerator max which it already reached, hence why cleave targets is the dump stat

[ember yew]

mk3 has a bit shitty cleave

and need a boost

[sterile stone]

He yearns for the pork

[fast iron]

ah, fair, I have the Mk3 right now and like the sweep attacks

[hard nexus]

gar my beloved

[hard nexus]

mk3 evis needs the cleave

helps with maulers, ragers

bruisers

[sterile stone]

@modern lintel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeLlmon9rF8 figured you might wanna take a look at this

[hard nexus]

i wish stalker 2 selling wasn’t so unbalanced

why does an AK say it’s 2k in my inventory

then at a trader it’s like 400

stalker moment

[fast iron]

probably because a trader gives you 20% of it's worth.

[sterile stone]

Because you're not suppose to spend alot of the game buying and selling

[modern lintel]

artifacts r definitely best weight to money i think

[sterile stone]

That's how every stalker game has been

[hard nexus]

yeah it’s stupid

[sterile stone]

The game is hard on purpose

[sterile stone]

OOOOH BTW

[hard nexus]

being able to buy stuff doesn’t make a game inherently easier

[fast iron]

also are you zealots as excited for TWO HANDED POWER SWORD as i am for psyker TWO HANDED FORCE SWORD

[hard nexus]

yeah

[sterile stone]

Yeah but they want to encourage exploring for stuff

[sterile stone]

Oh before I forget

[hard nexus]

explore to find things to sell to buy things to use to explore to find things to sell…

[modern lintel]

prob like 80 of current shit is stuff i found rather then bought

[sterile stone]

To not die

Yeah

That's the world of stalker

[frosty herald]

My evis will be replaced instantly

[sterile stone]

Now prepare your jaw for a upper cut by a controller

And say thank you afterwards

[hard nexus]

aren’t you a mk15 evis crutch

noob..

[frosty herald]

HOW

[frosty herald]

i main crucis you YOU

HGNGNGHG

hNGGGGGGGGGGGG

[rocky nacelle]

both of you suck ass at zombies

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-super-saiyan-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-sparking-zero-budokai-tenkaichi-gif-3343333395169488258

[rocky nacelle]

💅

[misty mason]

yamato is pooping

[solar gorge]

disgusting

[rocky nacelle]

born to shit

[modern lintel]

he forgor

[rocky nacelle]

forced to wipe

🚬

[sterile stone]

Nah nah I'm almost at my stash

I put it away so I don't accidently sell it

[fast iron]

tbh one of the main reasons why i play zealot is for the eviscerator, the sounds are too good

[frosty herald]

im really torn on if i should buy the zealot peg leg

[fast iron]

but also FIRST TWO HANDED WEAPON FOR PSYKER LETS GOOOOOOOOOO

[frosty herald]

the pants look real damn good

[rocky nacelle]

shoulda got the better one

[frosty herald]

which one

you mean the golden one?

[rocky nacelle]

rogue trader

skull for a knee

[modern lintel]

i have both whoops

[sterile stone]

Look at this bad boy

[modern lintel]

oof is max rads worth it tho

[solar gorge]

this mf has 14 sausage in his pockets

[sterile stone]

Max rads vs being a damage spondge for the rest of the game

[solar gorge]

you can see the grease seeping into his pants

[south grove]

oh I'm finally checking this

[sterile stone]

I'm cheap

[south grove]

nope

I didn't have knives

[sterile stone]

Sometimes I don't wanna use a medkit to heal

[south grove]

I ran out cuz I missed 4 on a trapper earlier

[modern lintel]

i have 16 sausages and 32 pieces of bread rn

[rocky nacelle]

holy noob

[sterile stone]

On Veteran, you're hungry so got damn often

[solar gorge]

slavic bulking pro tip

[sterile stone]

And at some point, shoving bread down your gullet won't work

[modern lintel]

i keep being attacked by sergeants of some faction that i apparently pissed off p early and i dont know who they r

[median steeple]

what do they look like

[sterile stone]

The military

[copper hawk]

deadly anomalies

[sterile stone]

If they have camoflauge on that's the military

[copper hawk]

dangerous mutants

anarchist

and banditz..

[median steeple]

death to duty....

[modern lintel]

ye sometimes gas mask or ghilies

[median steeple]

monolith my beloved

[sterile stone]

I won't lie

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/monolith-preacher-games-stalker-gif-19391373

[sterile stone]

The military got drip

[median steeple]

I found a merc suit btw

Im dripped out in blue

making money

[modern lintel]

is their any way i can unpiss off the military

[sterile stone]

I found a Seva suit and Exo location

I'm trying to find this damn drum mag Saiga

[median steeple]

you would need to talk to their faction leader and I don't know who that is

idk if you can unpiss the military/wardens

[sterile stone]

I think you can unscrew the wards rep

But the military just hates everyone

Unless you're an ecologist

[modern lintel]

i think iv only helped the ward and like mahbe twice

[frosty herald]

ecologists are military

duty is one of the few factions wanting to eradicate the zone

[sterile stone]

They aren't

Ecologist are their own people

[frosty herald]

your right

[sterile stone]

Their just government funded scientist

[frosty herald]

ecologists study the zone

[median steeple]

eco and duty are like the only two factions that the military wont attack which btw I haven't seen any ecos yet

[sterile stone]

I have

[median steeple]

also haven't seen mercs yet

[frosty herald]

Freedumb is just goofy

[median steeple]

idk if they're around

[sterile stone]

They sprinted into a building I was in during an emission

[copper hawk]

ive downloaded the game

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cruise-shades-cool-smug-cool-shades-gif-18677159

[copper hawk]

but i am yet 2 play it

darktide time !

[sterile stone]

Oh buddy

[median steeple]

slparktide time

[frosty herald]

They want to expand the zones even though the emisions will get worse and will be worldwide

[sterile stone]

I had to fight a merc with a exo and a shotgun as part of the main quest

[median steeple]

I have run into minor faction spoilers ||noon, and spark ||

[modern lintel]

i found a potential shiczo tier puzzle earlier the light has different patterns that it flashs @median steeple

[median steeple]

what the fuck

[sterile stone]

Gonna look into it

[median steeple]

true stalker experience

[sterile stone]

I'm in a open field with no buildings in sight

Send help plz

[copper hawk]

will u stop fucking screaming ?

[median steeple]

im chilling in swamp

getting money to buy more 556

[modern lintel]

im just wondering around cordon

[sterile stone]

Did you find Sidorovich?

I heard he got worse as a person from talking to strangers

[fast iron]

also how do zealots deal well with uhhhh... ranged units :x

[misty nova]

Dodging, cover

[modern lintel]

no but i am trying to find him

[south grove]

slide

slide a lot

[misty nova]

Getting on their melee range

[modern lintel]

i couldnt find him in the rookie town but then again didnt look super hard

[frosty herald]

Look at the bar maybe

[sterile stone]

I was gonna say

If he's not in his little underground area

That'd be strange

That's where he is for all the other stalker games

[fast iron]

[modern lintel]

i need to find a better detector iv only got a hilka rn

[sterile stone]

I've been using the base detector

Didn't even know you could get a better one

[south grove]

it stacks 5 times

[modern lintel]

theirs atleast 4 diff ones i think

[fast iron]

does stalker 2 have 'magic' with anomaly stuff or is it only shooty stabby combat

[grizzled aspen]

Then how tf did that flamer tank pop?

[south grove]

and dependent on your ammo count

[sterile stone]

Both

[south grove]

enemy shooters

they pop them too

[modern lintel]

occasionally mutant will try to blow up your balls with its brain

[grizzled aspen]

There was none behind him.

[fast iron]

yes, but my thought would be that you can use both together to keep at 5 stacks for a long time

[fast iron]

can i blow up enemy balls with my brain?

[south grove]

I didn't do it

[fast iron]

(yes i'm psyker pilled)

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j5fkm6eeBsU3Tlf-A

[south grove]

and that's all I know

[sterile stone]

Watching npcs fight a single psydog

And that psydog turns into 15 more psydogs

[south grove]

it reloads more ammo into your gun but your ammo count is still low

blaze away is the more consistent answer in this combo

cuz it keeps up in continuous fire without relying on more ammo in the magazine

[modern lintel]

also is their a wah to get a better flash light or binoculars that you know of cause damn shit sucks @sterile stone

[sterile stone]

There won't be a eldrich horror in here

Surely

Right?

[sterile stone]

I'd have to see

[copper hawk]

Bloodsucker inbound

[sterile stone]

Not many guides out atm

[south grove]

also, flamer tanks can pop but not display

as long as he's not low it can look normal but still explode

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/425

use this

[sterile stone]

Oh...

It's the mission to find my edition gear

Well atleast my kidneys won't get eaten today

[light badge]

why am I not surprised this mod needed to be made lol

[sterile stone]

@modern lintel

[south grove]

sorry

[mystic ether]

Anyone play around with middle tree in earnest? Thinking of a few builr concepts.

[modern lintel]

whered u find that

[sterile stone]

Bottom right of map

[modern lintel]

im in some cave rn found a relic and an asval w some psykic mutant i killed him right as he killed me have to re do it

[jagged cradle]

I lied you’re fine

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tiger-woods-big-dog-salutation-what-up-gif-2478767235926945002

[modern lintel]

guy took two grenade launchers and two ak mags to the side of the head to kill idk wtf they're made of but

bro said pardon me @sterile stone

[sterile stone]

What ammo you using

[modern lintel]

reg i think which i have more ap then reg prob should be using it

[wispy hamlet]

what is better shock maul or thunder hammer?

[south grove]

this is my 12th one on zealot

[stone fern]

yea

[modern lintel]

both do very different things

[south grove]

please for the love of god give me the third toughness curio

please

[solar gorge]

no

fuck off

[wispy hamlet]

im using a zealot with the chaist ability with flamer and currently thunder hammer and wandered if in this setup it will be better to swap to shock maul

[modern lintel]

w flamer prob stick w thunderhammer

[solar gorge]

flamer with th is so og

[wispy hamlet]

and clear horde with flamer and harder enemies bonk with the bonk stick

btw what melee can have the most critical dps for zealot (need for penece)

[sterile stone]

Give oggy a heavy flamer

See how thinks shake up

[grizzled aspen]

Ds4, knife, or tac axe.

[wispy hamlet]

thx

[nimble fiber]

give zealot a pocket version flamer

[solar gorge]

like that shitty ww2 one use flame thrower pistol

[misty mason]

Wait what

[misty mason]

If you want crit DPS those are all bad choices

You want something with high cleave for dps specifically

Can't remember what the penance is tho

So they may be good for that

[stone fern]

pocket flamer(lmb stagger rmb detonate the entire mag+pistol)

[rocky nacelle]

@modern lintel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY_B_4zMusU

[misty mason]

I'd probably say hsword for highest dps purely cause its a horde mulcher

[violet hornet]

Iirc evi mk2 is good for cleave / horde clear / crit as well

Not sure how the dps stacks up against the competition for that though

[modern lintel]

gamer

@sterile stone just found this

[sterile stone]

Ooooh

Where'd you get that

[modern lintel]

lemme screenshot it

[south grove]

literally shredder but better

lmao

[grizzled aspen]

Hand flamers do exist.

They have quite a small tank though.

[fast iron]

give every class a pocket flamer

(ogryn gets a welding tool instead)

[modern lintel]

its in cordon guy asking for med at top of mill he actually has two of them for some reason

[sterile stone]

Noted

[sullen forge]

Stalker bros, I’ve been seeing a handful of mixed reviews but is it really worth getting it

Cause at this point like I’m at a, I’m buying it tonight or not mode

[modern lintel]

its on gamepass dont have to pay full price but is v good ino

[light badge]

gonna give ye olde conflag staff a spin

[sterile stone]

Outside of the jank that comes with stalker games

[light badge]

what do we think, gamers?

[sterile stone]

It's genuienly a fund and sometimes ball crushing game

[modern lintel]

im not allowed to do that after the last incident

[sterile stone]

And most of your deaths are going to be because you weren't paying attention to your surroundings

And walked into an anomaly

Or you thought swimming in cancerously irradiated water was smart

It's basically stalker anomaly if you've played that

But with better graphics

[modern lintel]

idk if its just me but it feels like its night time a lot more then it is daytime

[visual stream]

How does one survive on psyker scrier build with deimos and recon when F is on cooldown

[south grove]

live?

not much else

you can use quietude and the other one and assail

[visual stream]

Helpful

[south grove]

to generate peril, and quell peril for toughness

[visual stream]

More helpful

[sterile stone]

I haven't experienced clear skies outside one day

[misty nova]

Mettle

[visual stream]

Mettle def helps

Especially when scrier's is up

[plush estuary]

Mettle EE

You can use mettle on teammates and bulwark shields

Needs toughness? Shoot your nearest teammate

[rocky nacelle]

@modern lintel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-prqnvaDgA @merry flume

[visual stream]

Guh?

[plush estuary]

Yes

[visual stream]

That's so silly but I like it

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-zen-focus-walkman-earbuds-gif-12972884

[visual stream]

Proc'ing FF lines on purpose

[frosty herald]

i just got the mourningstar wide for the emperor event

[visual stream]

The only time I got that was on my psyker a while back

"For ze emperor, I'm sure"

[jagged cradle]

You don’t deserve it

IMO

Tbh

[visual stream]

I think Darktide should have one of those annoying little companion stereotypes that follows you around

With God of War style tips that it spams unprompted

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-linkin-park-speech-bubble-gif-26402752

[hexed igloo]

Yeah that's the psyker

[visual stream]

"It looks like if you tap the auspex when the line hovers over the highlighted letter, you hack it!!"

🔥

[hexed igloo]

I think there should be a vague sort of tutorial for the hacking/auspex scanning tbh

I'm a pro gamer so I figured it out pretty quick but I can absolutely see a lot of people struggling pretty hard with figuring it out

[visual stream]

The one on Hab Dreyko tree was weird for a minute my first time doing it but they're all self-explanatory after a few seconds

[hexed igloo]

Like in the intro mission just add in a door that you have to like scan a keycard and then hack through it or somwthing

It's like vermintide 2, I just started playing that too and got in a match with a lvl 20 who didn't know how to do one of the objs, and it was my second run of it and I figured it out first run

I'm all for not holding your hand with gaming but sometimes it's a bit too unclear

[pine osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/die-gun-shotgun-deus-vult-gif-17767114

[pine osprey]

is this a zealot main?

[hexed igloo]

Nah I'm a scout main

[fast iron]

does zealot have any sort of reload speed thing

[visual stream]

TF2 or DRG

[fast iron]

like psyker

[hexed igloo]

Yes

[visual stream]

Yes but it's uh

Very big point tax IIRC

[fast iron]

cause i found out one of the shotguns has an alternate mode that fires a wide spreadshot with cleave that can hit an entire horde

[sullen forge]

Hey zealot chat here to say

[fast iron]

and also it's incredibly fun to spam because shotguns are w e i r d

[pine osprey]

Mmm birdshot

[sullen forge]

Watching someone’s house burn down

No clue what happened

But it’s up in flames outside our store

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-is-going-on-here-what-is-going-on-here-burning-house-burning-gif-12269420

[fast iron]

did you know that there is a minimum number of shots an enemy can get hit by?

[sullen forge]

Literally

We thought it was snow

[fast iron]

like if you aim down sights with the combat shotgun and shoot an unyielding enemy, even if you hit a single pellet, it takes damage as if it got hit by MORE PELLETS THAN ACTUALLY EXIST

[sullen forge]

Till the snow turned grey and black LMAO

[placid fiber]

Yep

[fast iron]

this makes the bird shot shotgun way better than it actually seems because you can hit an entire horde with sufficient pellets to oneshot them

[south grove]

okay sword boy

[fast iron]

found this out and immediately tried a psyker with it and it is hilarious, even if you don't kill them you can just literally make an entire room of gunners go flying onto their back

it's lovely

[copper hawk]

Noobnoob

[tired isle]

Man I wish they’d nerf the Dueling Sword

[fast iron]

apparently it's mostly good cause of the +120% rending thing :x

[south grove]

what about it?

[copper hawk]

Grubgrub

[south grove]

mhm

[autumn vector]

We live in a post wish for balance society. New 2handed powersword is definitely gonna be better than d4.

[grave cypress]

is a catachans parry also always a crit?

[copper hawk]

No

[fast iron]

two handed force sword for psyker aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[south grove]

no

[grave cypress]

alright thanks for the info

[fast iron]

also i need to fix my crashes I think my GPU keeps blowing hot air on my RAM which crashes

[tired isle]

Darktide has a problem with weapons that should be ok with single targets, like revolvers and knives, and turning them into absolute blenders

[south folio]

uncanny strike is very problematic, but its base damage is also cranked up to hell

[tired isle]

Like it’s fine for them to be lighter and weaker versions of the more iconic 40k weapons

[south folio]

duelling sword stab heavies could have their damage nerfed by 33%, and that would put the numbers right on what the mk5 heavies have and put them relatively balanced compared to knife heavies

revolver at least should have the magnetism taken away

it shouldn't simultaneously have good finesse and also just bullet magnetism on heads

[tired isle]

A regular blade shouldn’t be able to outperform a thunder hammer

[fast iron]

i don't think it has bullet magnetism it just fires bullets the size of an xbox

[south folio]

i just use magnetism for that idea of "shoot near enemy head, hit their heada"

it's implementation-dependent anyways

[copper hawk]

3 VEG !!!

[south folio]

maybe it's a big hitbox, maybe it's raycast and checks around, etc.

[fast iron]

also at that point bolt pistol becomes literally just better revolver :x

[opaque island]

make sure to eat your veg

[copper hawk]

error code 9999

go back to menu

[ember yew]

or remove cleave

[copper hawk]

accidentally qp a normal damnation

im KRILLIN MYSHELLF

[south folio]

cleave is not too bad
shotgunners and whatnot just have comically low hitmass

a lot of things also just cleave and annihilate shotgunner patrols

[tired isle]

Good. Revolver should a lightweight sidearm for melee characters, not a railgun

[fast iron]

and what stops bolt pistol from being a lightweight sidearm for melee characters? :p

the cleave at least should be a thing mostly to make it not complete garbage for shooting into hordes

[tired isle]

You move slower with it and it has a longer draw speed I believe

[copper hawk]

it fires a giant ass rocket

and not a magnum bullet

shouldnt pen carapace

the revolver i mean

even w handcannon me thinks

[tired isle]

Like you’re able to whip it out instantly and kill a specialist, that’s fine

Bit it shouldn’t perform better at taking down Crushers than a bolt gun

[light badge]

let's play a game of guess the smyker

[dusty tartan]

Quick question, am I wrong to believe that rashad is better with IJ than BP ?

[bitter anvil]

right

[visual stream]

Did they change the staff names too with Unlocked and Loaded?

[bitter anvil]

yeah

[visual stream]

Stinky

[ember yew]

Kinda, it's still usable but

the amount of overkill damage is similar to DS

[light badge]

now presenting the "FUCK ELITES" build (caps necessary)

[misty nova]

Surge into Electrokinectic
Trauma into Voidblast
Purgatus into Inferno

[light badge]

why they didn't change voidstrike to voidball we may never know

[south grove]

was better on IJ last I used it

(before UnL)

[ornate bone]

Gamers, I am installing the ASS ASS D

Is it supposed to hover a bit over the mobo?

[dusty tartan]

okay, thanks !

[dusty tartan]

and yes

[hexed igloo]

It's meant to sit at a 45° angle out from the mobo, or at least mine does

[ornate bone]

Aight, so I just screw it until it's perfectly horizontal?

[hexed igloo]

My pc kinda weird tho ngl

[ornate bone]

Oh

[dusty tartan]

ther's a little screw but, don't screw it toooo much

[hexed igloo]

Ye

[dusty tartan]

just a bit

[ornate bone]

Aight, gracios

[hexed igloo]

Just enough to secure it, don't torque it

[dusty tartan]

Ye

First nvme ?

[copper hawk]

I HATE NOOBS

KYAAAAAA

[dusty tartan]

It's gonna change your life

[hexed igloo]

Nvme go hard

I need some spare cash to drop on a nice one, I still just have a normal ssd and hard drives

[visual stream]

I'm sorry

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/mafu-mafumafu-gif-24064929

[ornate bone]

Hm, I don't have a screw that fits

Not sure why it didn't come with one

[dusty tartan]

Should be in the ssd box tho ?

[sullen forge]

GET OUT OF MY AURICS NOOBS!!!!!!!!

[dusty tartan]

hmmm or the motherboard box

[hexed igloo]

Do you still have your mobo box

They usually come with a bag of spare screws

[ornate bone]

Oh yeah, could be there

[copper hawk]

[ornate bone]

Thanks

[hexed igloo]

It'll proly be in there

Np

[hexed igloo]

Rule #1 of building a pc - never throw out the boxes

[dusty tartan]

or keep everything in one box

[hexed igloo]

Nah, just keep all the boxes and fill an entire closet with em

That's too smart for pcmasterrace

[dusty tartan]

lol

man closet

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-good-garfield-hey-good-looking-hey-handsome-looking-in-the-mirror-gif-20294451

[hexed igloo]

Component boxes and empty beer cans

Random brake caliper maybe

[rocky nacelle]

https://x.com/ign/status/1859556383726678030?s=46&t=LGmdWAsTVhD104WLzep5PQ

IGN (@IGN) on X

Elden Ring drops to just $20 for Black Friday. https://t.co/0CjQC2JFOh

Twitter · Nov 21, 2024, 11:16 AM

[light badge]

man

I forgot how fucking fun trauma staff is

especially now that flayer is good

[sullen forge]

SOTE FOR GOTY!!!!!!!!!! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

[rocky nacelle]

oh yea trauma flayer probably is sex into HISTG now

[visual stream]

They changed it?

[grizzled aspen]

Speaking from experience, yes it is.

[light badge]

only hits elites, specials, and bosses

[sullen forge]

Grrrrrr TRAUMA USER GRRRRRRR

[visual stream]

Ooo nice

Not as much gambling

[grizzled aspen]

I go to trauma a bulwark to knock him down and his head just fucking explodes.

It's great.

[light badge]

every time I see a pack of shotgunners, I charge trauma and the sounds of a slot machine fill my ears

because I know for certain that one of them will explode

[grizzled aspen]

PEAK

[light badge]

dw it's Shockwave/Nexus it's very based

[sullen forge]

Honestly the only thing that makes me upset I suppose about trauma

[ornate bone]

When I'm on a "most annoying cunt on the planet" competition and my opponent is this guy

[sullen forge]

Is when I’m trying to land headshots

They shoot a group of elites and they stumble

[grizzled aspen]

It doesn't matter, aim somewhere else.

:)

[sullen forge]

That’s kinda about it

I’m not going to aim where the high priority targets aren’t coming from

Actual idiot

[grizzled aspen]

(it bothers me when I'm in melee because I'm trying to headshot elites with my bonk stick and they keep getting knocked down)

[light badge]

I'm basically only using trauma as a "fuck armor" and "fuck this pack of shotgunners" device

also panic button for rager swarms

[grizzled aspen]

Erm just magdump your recon into trash sweaty. 💅

[sullen forge]

I used to run rending shockwave with uh

Focused channeling?

Literally I hate you crusher device

That was ages ago though

[placid fiber]

Tough competition

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-xqc-gambling-addict-777-gif-25803752

[light badge]

literally

[sullen forge]

Dorn turning in his grave right now

[light badge]

it's even better because I'm not using PC

you can always see who gets exploded

and it's always funny

[grizzled aspen]

Hook him up to a wheel and watch him out generate a nuclear reactor in electricity.

[grizzled aspen]

Bad.

You either run warp nexus and flurry or shockwave and flurry.

Hahnda is just being strange.

[light badge]

I run nexus with it because moar damage

(and mettle procs)

[grizzled aspen]

I forgor what mettle does.

I know perfect timing is crits for more warp damage.

[light badge]

getting 12.5% toughness per poxxer killed is hilarious

[sullen forge]

I really only ran Trauma as a

A fucking hate carapace tool

[grizzled aspen]

I run trauma because fuck rager packs.

And bulwarks.

I fucking hate bulwarks.

Total bulwark death.

[sullen forge]

That and I recall making a really unoptimized but stupid Illisi

Shred Soulblaze with both Soulblaze talents

It would really quickly just catch everything on fire in a mile radius

[light badge]

literally the reason I have unyielding on my trauma

and the only times where I explicitly started spamming smite

everyone, no matter the class, agrees

FUCK bulwarks

[grizzled aspen]

Actually, real shit, if this cleave attack fatshark is talking about for the force greatswords exists the way I think it will, the soulblaze on crit blessing might be peak.

[light badge]

bulwarks should die in a hole

(got me so mad I autocorrected my own typing)

[frosty herald]

no joke its carian grandeur but a sweep slash

so peak

[grizzled aspen]

What the fuck is that.

Speak English.

[frosty herald]

have you never played elden ring?

[grizzled aspen]

I played a bit of it but I didn't like it.

The boss fights are peak but I hated the time it took to get between bosses.

[sullen forge]

Wait are you unironically

Condoning that shitty build I threw together if it works with uh

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/IBqZ484SJWo?si=ac1rG4kkgzXXSrCo

[sullen forge]

The Force Swords

Shred + Soulblaze

[frosty herald]

hopefully its a wide sweep

cause everyone is thinking moonlight greatsword with the special

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

Think of it like this.

If it doesn't kill stuff outright, it will inflict soulblaze on everything caught by it.

Now mix in wildfire.

Are you following now?

[light badge]

I feel like I'm the only one who hates shred and would take riposte every single time

[sullen forge]

Burn maxxing…

[rocky nacelle]

cuz u noob

[sullen forge]

Everything burns

[rocky nacelle]

only noobs who cant melee hate shred

[light badge]

no because on deimos I'm constantly missing my L1 to get to H2

[sullen forge]

I honestly

Need to remake

[rocky nacelle]

skissue

[grizzled aspen]

Shred fucking sucks compared to riposte.

[light badge]

riposte feels a lot more consistent

[sullen forge]

My shred Soulblaze melee psyker

[rocky nacelle]

because its literally designed to be that way

lmao

[sullen forge]

That shit was SO much fun

[light badge]

make it with the greatsword

[grizzled aspen]

6s of a flat crit chance boost is better than the numerous reasons I could lose all 5 of my shred stacks.

[light badge]

for maximum peak

[light badge]

trueing

[grizzled aspen]

That's literally what I was suggesting a second ago.

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

All seriousness

[uneven galleon]

I'd love to see a sword and dagger dual like vermintide 2

[rocky nacelle]

I cant believe we can finally roleplay as inquisitor martyr soykers

[sullen forge]

I will

But

[rocky nacelle]

(actually good melee)

[sullen forge]

What SHOULD I do

To suffice till then

[rocky nacelle]

I wonder if scriers 2H FSword with crack of bone

would be

lot of interesting builds to make for sure

I hope 2H PSword gets thrust or some shit

try something out with that

[grizzled aspen]

If we get kerillians greatsword with thrust...

[bitter anvil]

kek

[rocky nacelle]

(I didnt play VT2)

but I know people nut over kerillians sword

so

[uneven galleon]

I'd love to see double combat axes

[sullen forge]

Honestly I’m going to try to throw something together

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-jumping-off-a-cliff-landing-in-water-gif-12494009273805900243

[grizzled aspen]

Basically it's a vertical and thrusting alternating heavy and diagonal lights.

[sullen forge]

Can’t till I’m home

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/based-kneel-dark-souls-gif-24182729

[uneven galleon]

Literally based

[grizzled aspen]

And the thrust heavy fucking dumpstered anything you pointed it at.

[modern lintel]

never got into vt but kerillians as based as it gets so

[rocky nacelle]

sounds about right

[grizzled aspen]

Even chaos warriors.

[uneven galleon]

Just going into charge to a bunch of shorgunners and going buck wild with two qxes

[grizzled aspen]

Strong ass elgi ong.

Umgak.

[sullen forge]

But for a horde clear doing shred and Soulblaze what sword should I run (till Force drops) and what are the mandatory talents needed @light badge

Illisi or Deimos

[grizzled aspen]

Illisi.

Deimos will kill things outright on crits too well.

You won't get value from your soulblaze blessing.

[modern lintel]

i think someone at darktide finally had the epiphany to just straight up start copying weapons over from vermintide after ogryn picaxe

[grizzled aspen]

Well they deserve a fucking raise.

[modern lintel]

now we just need flail and pistol sword combo

[grizzled aspen]

The fact that vets get nothing is the cherry on top.

[ember yew]

[modern lintel]

i just hope the 2h psword is as good at anti armor as vets

[light badge]

give bolt staff

🙏

[ornate bone]

Okay uh

Computer is beeping on startup now

[modern lintel]

pipe bomb upon ye

[sullen forge]

I’m honestly just hoping for a rework to the Power Sword for vet with how boring it is, added the fact Skeleton also stated it needed one

I could care less when I just hope it happens

[modern lintel]

i think they said it is getting changed didnt they

[sullen forge]

Vaguely

But idk

[modern lintel]

ill commit hate crimes against the swedish if it isnt

[copper hawk]

i outdamaged a blaze away overpressure flamer uncanny riposte ds4 zealot in a pub

peak..

w my goofy ahh hs 9 loadout..

[sullen forge]

I’d just say assume it’s nothing

Cause all they said was only noteable things for vet are in weapon change blogs that’s it

Vet nerfs 😋😋😋😋

[sullen forge]

They always fucking outdamage me by like 20-40k

Absolutely fucking mogged though by a Vigilant

[frosty herald]

i see the special stab as the anti armor for the weapon

[misty ravine]

A power field on the end of a very long stick sounds useful

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/5guys-manhog-manhogging-gif-25996826

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-of-clans-hog-rider-minecraft-pig-hog-gif-18667885

[ornate bone]

Oh yeah btw

The foot that I hit on the couch and was swollen?

I managed to break one of my toes

2 weeks of rest and 1 of some heavy-duty anti-inflammatory

Imagine trying to stretch your leg so hard

You break a fucking toe

[gleaming furnace]

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/diagnosis-brainless-doctor-gif-5940357470164555982

human body moment

[gleaming furnace]

I’m gonna need a play by play for this one chief

How on earth do you break a toe by stretching on your couch ? Can you draw this in mspaint ?

[light badge]

excessively stretching my legs is one of my usual stims, so thanks for giving me a new fear lol

[ornate bone]

Just don't do it near a hard surface

Okay so basically

My knee joint sometimes goes slightly out of place and ranges from bothersome to mild pain

[stone fern]

bruh

[ornate bone]

It's kind of like when your joints get a bit wonky after a collision, but on their own and way less painful

[stone fern]

i fucking pulled a calf muscle just walking

[ornate bone]

So I do like a back kick in a whip motion

[stone fern]

i think we both need a middle ground between breaking bones stretching

[ornate bone]

Except the couch was behind me this one time

[stone fern]

and pulling muscles for not stretching

[ornate bone]

And I so happened to hit not the fluffy seats

But the arm rest made of solid wood

[stone fern]

maybe stretch seated

like a normal person

[ornate bone]

Silence shark

[stone fern]

no

[ornate bone]

You do not have legs

[stone fern]

fuck you im gonna evolve some rn

[gleaming furnace]

You better not

You had your chance 65 million years ago and you blew. Back to the ocean with thee !

[stone fern]

so how are we dulling the pain cole?@ornate bone

im doing a dorn(ibprufen and whiskey)

[stone fern]

its never too late

[gleaming furnace]

Do you just hate your stomach lining or something ? I heard that combo is bad for normies (and sharks)

[light badge]

last standing music starts
this video plays in my head, every time

[stone fern]

i hate not being able to walk

[gleaming furnace]

I bet if we combined all the zealot chat regulars we could make like one fully functional adult human

[golden anchor]

It's better than acetominophen/paracetamol for them filthy euros

Killing stomach lining is fine, killing liver is a bit worse :V

[light badge]

I'm fully functional :(

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-cell-gif-16999556429765885038

[ornate bone]

They gave me uhhh

Actually lemme check, you reminded me I need to take the meds

I got distracted trying to fix some RAM shit

[gleaming furnace]

From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me. I craved the strength and certainty of steel

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meevin-shock-shocked-ears-gif-26995341

[ornate bone]

Tramadol and uhhh

[pearl venture]

Im having trouble with the fire granade kills penance, even when I drop it on a horde and just dodge the enemies so the fire kills them many times I get almost no kills. Why are most not counting?

[rocky nacelle]

those cats ears r so dum

[ornate bone]

etoricoxib

[gleaming furnace]

Ok let’s see your ears then

[gleaming furnace]

How do you wear sunglasses ?

[light badge]

iirc it has something to do with the damage over time

I could be entirely wrong because I never use fire nades but I believe it only counts 'direct' damage, ie the damage from the patch of fire itself and not any burning stacks

[pearl venture]

so what can I do

[light badge]

Play high intensity Damnation and avoid any other modifiers

Play in Auric if you can

Just don't play shock troop missions

Less specials = more horde to go through = more kills for the nade

[pearl venture]

ok thx

[misty ravine]

The fire nade penance is "acknowledged" to be bugged, couldn't be arsed to read the details but it's not counting everything it's supposed to.

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/purging-flames-penance/99962

[gleaming furnace]

Also use the endless horde spots. Like the beginning of mercantile has an endless horde. So does the end of power matrix and hab dreyko

[pearl venture]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-the-last-airbender-nickelodeon-animation-cartoons-toons-gif-14828143

[ornate bone]

Also holy shit, I don't think I'll be able to stay with my toes taped together like the doctor told me to

This shit hurts

[misty ravine]

One post in that thread guessed that maybe it only counts specials and elites, because he gathered up "50-100 scab bruisers and groaners" and none of them counted

[gleaming furnace]

I once broke my finger with a 25lb dumbbell. My dad (a surgeon) told me it wasn’t broken and to grow up. A few years later I got some imaging done for something unrelated and the tech asks me “so how’d you break your finger?”

[sullen forge]

“I’m all ears”

[frosty herald]

Uhh why do they need to be?

[gleaming furnace]

So the broken one doesn’t heal crooked

[frosty herald]

Oh

[ornate bone]

Ye

[gusty orbit]

Yeah, I've heard same counterintuitive stuff from family doctors, one would expect doctor=hard career=some common sense, oftentimes that's not the case lmao

Family doctors and like 30 others I've known throughout the years

[ornate bone]

The first time I broke my toe, I actually had a doctor tell me it wasn't broken

Then it started getting very swollen and I went to another for another x-ray

[silver rover]

Im trying the new dueling sword on zealot after like 4 months offline from darktide and damn

[ornate bone]

Turns out it was

[silver rover]

Also its my first zealot build

Its so cheesy but its fun asf lol

I have one build with dueling sword + braced autogun and immolation grenades

The other is sword + flamer + throwing knives

Both are great

[gusty orbit]

Big surprise right xdd, but yeah that happens, that's why a second opinion if its an option has to be taken into account

[gleaming furnace]

Try the recon lasgun

[silver rover]

I might

[gleaming furnace]

You won’t regret it

[golden anchor]

Would be funny if they nerfed MK4 DS and didn't touch MK2 DS lol

[gleaming furnace]

If they nerf the toothpick it’s a hate crime

[golden anchor]

Hoping Knife and toothpick get axed with the next patch, it'll be great

[gleaming furnace]

I will never concede to the sloptubers riling everyone up about the toothpick being op

[gusty orbit]

Uncanny strike just needs to go, and finesse separated and voila, toothpick and prison shank become strong weapons almost op but not a community joke

[gleaming furnace]

Even tho last night I had to solo clutch against a massive horde, a pawgryn, and gunners on all sides on refinery while tired and angry and it was my first game of the night

[golden anchor]

I'll take a mobility nerf on both of them so kiting isn't free

[gusty orbit]

After taking out uncanny strike for good and separating finesse the next suspect is either the damage or mobility

Or a bit of both

[gleaming furnace]

This bizarre and slavish obsession with “balance” nearly put helldivers down permanently. I do not wish darktide to suffer such a fate

[golden anchor]

not as bad as helldivers since all the other weapons are actually pretty decent

[gleaming furnace]

Also nothing is op in a game where netters can still shoot through walls and dogs can change direction mid air

[golden anchor]

decent to great actually

[silver rover]

Tbh im really hype for the two handed power sword just bc it would look sick on my zealot with plate armor

I just hope its not ass

[gusty orbit]

DarkTide has its days counted because it doesn't produce money anyway :/ other than that there's lots of strong stuff but knives and dswords are just stupid

[silver rover]

I love the eviscerator too

[gusty orbit]

I get the obsession with balance sentiment, and it plagues much stuff, but those two are a meme

[silver rover]

Ngl copium but i want a force/power halberd lmao

[gleaming furnace]

So ? Just don’t use them ?

[gusty orbit]

That's never an argument for anything in life lmao

[golden anchor]

It's not enough, other people can't use it either 😛

[silver rover]

Honestly yeah helldivers fell off after the mods kind of just felt like “no fun allowed” after the psn shit

Main balance dev was NOT professional either

[gusty orbit]

It doesn't make it cease to exist or not be a problem at all, either with these unbalanced weapons or anything in life

[bitter anvil]

Did helldiver remove mod stuff?

No mod allow?

[silver rover]

Idk i keep seeing visual mods on yt

[silver rover]

I mean fair but nothing’s stopping you from using the other weapons and it’s not like eviscerator isn’t viable

[gusty orbit]

Also DarkTide won't be that no fun allowed because since the class rework the game has been way more targeted towards fun and not balancing

[golden anchor]

If people want to complain about balance not affecting others

[gleaming furnace]

Also how do you know dt doesn’t produce money ? Do you have a link to the most recent 10k filing ?

[gusty orbit]

Which I rather have in pve

[golden anchor]

Just play with M1 Surge staff lol

[silver rover]

Same thing abt veteran plasma/knife

its really fucking broken but other builds are great with lasgun/autogun/bolter

[golden anchor]

enjoy watching someone else play the game

[silver rover]

doesnt take away from the fun

[visual stream]

The difference is that Helldivers came out in a state where next to nothing was fun or in some cases efficient to use and was unbalanced in that way. Darktide is in a state of slight unbalance where some weapons perform a bit too well, and like three weapons don't perform nearly as well as they should

[silver rover]

Im surprised no one mentions this, that staff has been cracked ever since i touched the game

Stunlock is crazy

[winged vessel]

even if things get too busted they should just unchain the AI director instead of nerfing stuff

[golden anchor]

That's the ethical way to play that

[visual stream]

Helldivers devs dragged their feet on making things fun to use, while Darktide's entire incentive is fun

[silver rover]

Honestly yeah i’d be fine with that

[frosty herald]

A dueling sword nor knife should not be able to be a better anti armor solution than eviscerator nor thunder hammer

[rocky nacelle]

*orn dying of an aneurysm somewhere

[golden anchor]

unethical way is to spam left click quell cancel, basically you get an infinite ammo, heavy stagger, no recoil machine gun that basically kills everything

[gusty orbit]

I wish, but I don't think something like that is out there, I go based on what I see around the servers, you would have to make acquaintances with closer people to fatshark I guess

[gleaming furnace]

Hd dev is the biggest funhater of all time. Probably a direct descendant of the moron who invented speed bumps. I’m still salty I didn’t get a refund during the psn debacle (although I did make that months rent shorting that shit so I guess I can’t be too mad)

[winged vessel]

thats crazy HD hating helldivers is a good game

[gusty orbit]

Yeah, I just talk about the most obvious suspects, other than that let the strong stuff be, such in fun in pve games

[winged vessel]

sadly no melee weapons so darktide better

[silver rover]

Honestly yeah but tbh, its not that the sword feels better than the eviscerator, it’s that the eviscerator’s damage and AP to large targets feels like it sucks ass

[frosty herald]

It doesnt

[gusty orbit]

Did Helldivers got gutted that hard or is bro trippin

[light badge]

You can use your fists though

[frosty herald]

Dueling sword is just disgustingly strong in comparison

[gusty orbit]

I don't own the game and don't plan to

[light badge]

Or I guess, elbows

[silver rover]

Compared to the sword with a proper build? It def does

Dueling sword sucks ass at horde clear tho without the ability

[light badge]

Bros trippin tbh

[golden anchor]

Dueling Sword has probably above average horde clear lol

[frosty herald]

If i pick bloodthirsty i can oneshot crushers reliably

[hearty nebula]

Your evis sucks balls then

sorry bro

[winged vessel]

bro is tripping
like helldivers did have a situation where they just nerfed everything
and everything became trash
but theyre past that and variety is actually a thing in that game again

[gleaming furnace]

It did. To the point that the only effective strategy was to quietly speedrun the maps avoiding combat at all costs

[golden anchor]

No one's calling for a rashad nerf

[rocky nacelle]

we are

[golden anchor]

no one even talks about rashad these days now lol

[hearty nebula]

no?

[silver rover]

It feels good against hordes bc it has good horde stun but its cleave is so mid

Eviscerator can cleave through hordes easier, instead of stunning them like the ds it just kills them

[winged vessel]

this is
the past

[hearty nebula]

lol

[gleaming furnace]

So I’ve heard

[hearty nebula]

you heard wrong

[south folio]

duelling sword stab heavies are pretty obviously an outlier since a 33% nerf to their damage would put them at exactly the same level as a weapon in the exact same family (ds5) as well as another weapon in the same niche (knife)

[hearty nebula]

because at no point has stealth been the premiere gameplay style in hd2

[gleaming furnace]

Yea idk my bros have tried to drag me back into it but I just can’t. It really left a bad taste in my mouth last time

[south folio]

at least for duelling sword, we have a very easy reference point to base a nerf on

[sullen forge]

I see m1 macro get brought up

[frosty herald]

Its weird they didnt give dueling sword a dodge parry

[gleaming furnace]

Imagine begging for nerfs instead of fixes to some of the absolute cheapshots the game throws at you

[south folio]

i mean i talk about that as well

i can talk about multiple things

[sullen forge]

You immediately get a target painted on your back to get barreled constantly

[north sedge]

you never had to stealth in hd2, the actual current state of hd2 is similar to dt, everyone's op

[south folio]

the thing about balance is that the game is currently compensating for the individual weakness of enemies by spamming them in great numbers

i'd rather more individually strong enemies in fewer quantity than the current number of elites/specials

[gleaming furnace]

Well yea it’s a horde game

[south folio]

sure, and there are horde/trash mobs that exist for the express purpose of being in large numbers

but when elites that are armored up and whatnot are being one/two-shot by a weapon, i see that as problematic

and this weapon is fairly quick

[gleaming furnace]

It’s a fine precision poke

Right through the eye slot

[south folio]

yeah, and that's fine for it to fit a single-target role

but it's a bit much

[winged vessel]

tbf its only a problem when mfs like a crusher are getting 2 shot

[south folio]

if you look at comparable weapons in the same niche (ds5, knife), their damage is lower by 33% than the ds4 stab heavies

[full nebula]

stuff in vt2 dies in a couple hits depending on weapons too

[winged vessel]

if ur melee weapon isnt 2 shotting a gunner/shotgunner its the telltale sign something is wrong

[full nebula]

nothing new

[gleaming furnace]

I feel like nobody here ever fenced

[south folio]

yeah, but some things have to be given up for gameplay reaosns

[bitter anvil]

Slave rat easily get 1-2 hit from rapier

[full nebula]

I

[south folio]

i'm not going to adhere to realism if the gameplay is going to be worse

[stable cypress]

I've never fenced vs ogryns in full fucking armor

[full nebula]

I mean armored, you can take chaos warrior heads off in like 2-3 hits with exe or something on cata

[south folio]

and it's not like swords are notorious for being great against metal armour

[bitter anvil]

I never go cata difficulty

[winged vessel]

tbf 3 hits from exe is excessively long kill time

[bitter anvil]

Legend already killed me

[full nebula]

Just an example

Yes generally

[south folio]

we apply some realism, we apply some gameplay logic, etc.

[full nebula]

If you're playing legend itll literally kill nearly anything but a monstrosity in 1 hit

lots of weapons will

[winged vessel]

it kinda gets balanced out by its 1 shot being so stupidly single target and the weapon being so horridly slow

like yeah u 1 shot this 1 rat rager and the other one gets to hit you twice

[bitter anvil]

Great hammer is slowest

[full nebula]

right, but other than ds4 and some exceptions, everything has a downside for the most part

[bitter anvil]

Plague monk are crazy

[full nebula]

this game needs some weapons balanced upward, some downward. Some don't need changed

[winged vessel]

true
ds4 is just busted
the only situations it would fail in are situations any other weapon also fails in

[modern lintel]

@sterile stone super juiced m4 here

[winged vessel]

(example getting rushed by 9 crushers)

[south folio]

the numbers, as reference

[full nebula]

Ds4 is kind of an outlier though, stupidly broken

[golden anchor]

getting rushed by 9 crushers is definitely not a situation where it would fail in lol

[winged vessel]

ok lets add in no dodge space

its def failing now

[south folio]

901 * (1 - 0.33) = ~603

[golden anchor]

Ironically VoC vet might actually get out of that lmao

[gusty orbit]

Yeah kinda easily too xd

[golden anchor]

Voc and 9 headstabs

[south folio]

ds4 at least also has the mobility to kite very easily

[winged vessel]

can vet really 1 shot a crusher with 1 stab

[golden anchor]

yea

[full nebula]

who needs that

[gusty orbit]

Or if you have uncanny charged up you can kill like 6 before until death runs out

[full nebula]

line'em up with revolver and cleave heads

lazy

[sullen forge]

With Thrust iirc

Tbf everyone can

Zealot can pull this off insanely easily it’s why Zealot DS4 is gaining a stigma around it

[silver rover]

Tbf VoC vet is just insane

30 sec cooldown

Coupled with bolter or plasma

Elite hordes, esp melee hordes, dont got shit on you

I run chainsword tho bc i find it more fun than ds or knife

Hearing revs while slashing through heretics is fun asf

[full nebula]

Voice of command is so much better than Kruber Mercenary ability its not even funny

[golden anchor]

False

nothing beats OI

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-the-dude-your-opinion-gif-4476328

[winged vessel]

ay kruber can yell more + he doesnt lose spammability from being able to res with shout

[misty nova]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-floating-shaq-floatr-gif-22884385

[silver rover]

Do you guys use rez on voc or nah

[misty nova]

Nope

[full nebula]

Can yell more

Idk about that one

[silver rover]

Yeah real i used it once it was okay

I prefer it without

[misty nova]

No need to Rez if you yell more often

[golden anchor]

[full nebula]

voice of command is more broken, even if mercs talents related to it are super strong

[silver rover]

I realize VoC gives you enough aoe stun to rez

If you rez right away

Its rly nice

[full nebula]

Yeah it does everything

[golden anchor]

Memes aside, yea VoC clears Kruber shout, but Kruber shout has better lines, making it better by default.

[silver rover]

Need the comissar outfit with chainsword + bolt pistol to finish it off

[full nebula]

Theres a reason every vet uses it

[golden anchor]

Also no one took revive shout in VT either, everyone just rocked 30% CDR on that one

[silver rover]

Fury of the Faithful is so fun tho, imo more fun that voc even if its a little less broken

2 charges

[full nebula]

I've ran that one before, but its not particularly good outside of preventing wipes

[silver rover]

I run ability cooldown on all 3 trinkets

Cools down in like 12 seconds lmao

[full nebula]

Ah i mean the revive in vt

Yeah voc needs nerfed

[silver rover]

It was 45 sec before and strong but not op

[full nebula]

For something that does everything, and can be reliably gotten back with little to no effort

[silver rover]

Imo they shouldnt nerf it too hard

[full nebula]

2op

[silver rover]

5-10 second nerf

[full nebula]

nah, take 1/4 of the toughness you get normally

something like that

thatll be the only thing that can balance it if you can just keep reducing cooldown

[golden anchor]

It'd still be good at 30 seconds if it didn't give you golden toughness

[misty ravine]

Is Tactical Awareness the true culprit

[silver rover]

Yeah mby it should give same toughness as FoF which is like, 75% i think?

Still very strong

[golden anchor]

FotF is 50%

[silver rover]

Oh tf

Im blind then lmao

[full nebula]

FF is another one thats kinda stupid strong

[silver rover]

Yeah

[full nebula]

especially with 2 charges

[silver rover]

Although at least its mostly a self buff

[full nebula]

and you can get cooldown reduction out the ass

[silver rover]

VoC is just straight AoE

Tbf all broken shit aside im kinda happy the direction the game has gone since the beginning of the year

At least by fatshark standards

I just hate this dumbass rotation shop

I want my drip consistent

[full nebula]

Oh yeah, leagues of improvement. Just need that sweeping balancing patch...

makes me wonder why they didnt make shit like shredder auto better the last balance patch

[silver rover]

I need that stupid plate leg armor for my zealot and I have my knight power armor build done :D

Shredder auto is so dog 😭

Honestly heavy laspistol on zealot kinda fun

[full nebula]

Thats an example of an outlier bad weapon, and overtuning of a nerf

Shredder auto broken? Nah now its borderline useless

[golden anchor]

I just realized a possibly easy way to nerf DS

DS5 for vets and zealots only

problem solved

[full nebula]

change something that doesn't affect psyker that much but matters to zealots

[golden anchor]

Psyker gets to keep DS4 and 2

[full nebula]

ie finesse something

idk

[placid fiber]

So you want us to keep the omega super dodge one?

[full nebula]

Eh, any of them can be that with agile

[golden anchor]

Knife exists so why not

hasn't been touched by nerfs yet so I guess it's ok lol

[placid fiber]

it's just the mk5 has 2 dodge stats

[full nebula]

interesting

[placid fiber]

mobility, defences

[sullen forge]

DS2 > 4

[full nebula]

but im fine with that since it doesnt obliterate like ds4

[golden anchor]

Mk5 doesn't have the pokes so sure why not, gives up dmg for mobility