Mk4 and mk7 good
#zealot-class
fleet zealot
frosty herald
its the entire set.
tight fog
Alright then kool 
frosty herald
praying to God himself this isnt a bug
full nebula
They'll fix it in 2 days
fleet zealot
Yea the only way to build dclaw is shred rampage or rampage sweep
It’s non negotiable
full nebula
They're not gonna let those legs be across human characters, that's far too much money you're robbing from them
frosty herald
im genuinely scared to ask strawhat about it
full nebula
They're starving
hushed knoll
How do you have the weapons like that
frosty herald
How do you have the weapons like that
weapon customization
fleet zealot
It simply doesn’t have the base stagger to use skullcrusher without also giving up your 2nd blessing slot for pure impact
hushed knoll
weapon customization
Oh the mod?
frosty herald
solar gorge
legs are for all humans ??
stiff hawk
solar gorge
vet set has 2 peices for all humans if they don't """fix""" the legs
grave cypress
It simply doesn’t have the base stagger to use skullcrusher without also giving ...
allegedly theres such a thing as a perfect parry but it just doesnt have any indicators.
just found that out today
misty nova
Well Rampage is like the only Strength blessing for Dclaw
Everything else is impact, cleave or crit related
full nebula
I wouldn't hold any hope, they aren't gonna make it set specific like that then allow it across human characters
Defeats the idea of having all of the humans with pegs
misty nova
So you kinda don't have a lot of good choices for dclaw
grave cypress
So my only other roleplay option is a catachan knife 
full nebula
There aren't a lot of good choices for blessings in general
Every melee uses the same 10
fleet zealot
allegedly theres such a thing as a perfect parry but it just doesnt have any ind...
There is the parry (special activation) but there is no real blessings that buff it besides having rampage pre activated from before
And the parry has a harsher timing vs melee attacks considered to be unblockable (overheads mostly)
winged vessel
allegedly theres such a thing as a perfect parry but it just doesnt have any ind...
yeah
perfect parry allows you to parry overheads
grave cypress
Hammerblow seems to always be up, allways, which is why i was running it. It seldom ever drops to 0 in matches
winged vessel
pretty useful
fleet zealot
Hammerblow seems to always be up, allways, which is why i was running it. It sel...
It also does nothing good
full nebula
All of this devils claw nonsense seems like a lot of work
winged vessel
All of this devils claw nonsense seems like a lot of work
it is,
grave cypress
ive found it to be really useful at stunning pretty much everything enough to control a situation but I know the age old
"stop what you're doing, if its not dead then its bad, it could have been dead but it wasnt"
winged vessel
nah its fun
its just you gotta follow the dclaw like its the god emperor itself
live by the blade
fleet zealot
You can oneshot a crusher by parrying the overhead and fotf before your counter connects
winged vessel
the days of chainswords are gone
fleet zealot
ive found it to be really useful at stunning pretty much everything enough to co...
Go play crusher then
full nebula
But you can just use your dodge crutch like everything else in this game
And that's better
fleet zealot
Actual skullcrusher weapon
grave cypress
Its the only weapon with the parry mechanic, on paper it should have some really high risk high reward gameplay and stuff
full nebula
And less risk probably
winged vessel
ive found it to be really useful at stunning pretty much everything enough to co...
if you wanna stun fellas why are u on Dclaw
fleet zealot
Its the only weapon with the parry mechanic, on paper it should have some really...
It does
winged vessel
dclaw is to KILL
fleet zealot
Stunning isn’t high risk high reward
You perfect parry overheads every 10 seconds and kill everything
lone matrix
play crusher if you want to stun
grave cypress
Go play crusher then
I have a really stupid reason for not running Crusher and its the fact that after playing ogryn, the animation for the wind ups feel really confusing, weak and so cancer compared.
Its like you barely lift the thing before the strike and it feels so ass to someone that used to main oggy
winged vessel
use the shock maul then
another stun weapon
fleet zealot
I have a really stupid reason for not running Crusher and its the fact that afte...
Have you used it any time within the past year
winged vessel
just dont squander that poor dclaw
grave cypress
Have you used it any time within the past year
yes!
fleet zealot
And did you make sure to not talent attack speed at every turn or?
full nebula
Or just kill them in a couple hits with whatever weapon and ff
fleet zealot
Crusher isn’t slow for it’s size, it is very much a combo weapon
grave cypress
Im not saying this is an across the board problem. The animations for all Hammers have great feeling animations
full nebula
Crusher feels like you're hitting nothing imo
grave cypress
crushers just feels like ass
full nebula
Damage good, animation dogshit
fleet zealot
Oh matt clone
lone matrix
Oh matt clone
matt clone?
grave cypress
That's all it takes, one person on my side and they all start turning to my side. Yeah baby im winning
fleet zealot
One of the best weapons in the game must sucks
grave cypress
gains
full nebula
The animations feel awful, same reason I don't use chain weapons, it feels like you're hitting nothing.
fleet zealot
That's all it takes, one person on my side and they all start turning to my side...
Nah just you two
Hate crusher
winged vessel
i think the lesson we learned is stop using the dlcaw as a fucking stun weapon just use sum else
fleet zealot
For some reasons
grave cypress
For some reasons
I think we're arguing past each other, you're strictly looking at stats. We're talking about how the animations feel
fleet zealot
When it’s one of our beet
winged vessel
The animations feel awful, same reason I don't use chain weapons, it feels like ...
idk how the chain weapons could ever give u this feeling
full nebula
I don't hate the crusher, in fact I wish the animations didn't feel terrible
winged vessel
they all feel like they are hitting
lone matrix
i preffer the thunderhammer over crusher but crusher does its job well
fleet zealot
idk how the chain weapons could ever give u this feeling
Mk12 chaxe lights are pretty bad
full nebula
Even grinding carapace with evis doesn't feel good, the sound is bad too
vast basin
crusher to me feels like the best generalist weapon since it got more blessings
winged vessel
the evis is just past its prime entirely
fleet zealot
I think we're arguing past each other, you're strictly looking at stats. We're t...
Yes and like, only H1 has that bit of delay, and it’s rarely used outside of activate h1 for a burst single target opener
full nebula
Any chain weapons
winged vessel
a viable weapon but its unironically one of the shittier weapons a zealot can have
which fucking sucks
full nebula
The revs don't feel good, and normal attacks feel like they glance off of everything
winged vessel
hopefully with the power sword a big sword can be meta again
full nebula
Space marine 2 has better feeling chainswords
grave cypress
I know fatshark improved the "im revving my chainsword and now im locked into the homing animation" but it still feels annoying to have to shake your screenaround while your chainswording into an enemy
harsh quartz
Despite evisc mk15 being my favorite weapon the animations and rev attack animations are shit
full nebula
For me it's literally just the feel of the animations, lack of impact
fleet zealot
If you dont fight it is more bearable
The more you fight the camera pull the more it corrects
full nebula
And it's not like it can't feel impactful, the chain weapons in sm2 do
winged vessel
And it's not like it can't feel impactful, the chain weapons in sm2 do
imma have to call cap
fleet zealot
And it's not like it can't feel impactful, the chain weapons in sm2 do
Sm2 impactful melee
harsh quartz
I have hope for new sword because atm power sword imo has great feel and animations
acoustic dune
winged vessel
the chain weapons in sm2 only feel impactful on execution
full nebula
Talking chain weapons specifically
fleet zealot
the chain weapons in sm2 only feel impactful on execution
Yea
full nebula
Nah, even light attacks and whatnot feel better
fleet zealot
Actual melee in sm2 is like using pre buff crusher
Back when it was our worst weapon
harsh quartz
I feel like the chain axe has pretty decent feel and animation but it’s just not as good
winged vessel
Actual melee in sm2 is like using pre buff crusher
i absolutely despise that you cant cancel melee into dodging
u cant fight bosses melee cuz of it i hate it so bad
fleet zealot
Chain axe is fine it’s just insanely single target
It’s prob close to balanced than a lot of other weapons
But then again it can take double strength
winged vessel
ngl idk what other impact yall want from some of these weapons when u swing and blood and heads start flying accross ur screen
fleet zealot
It really doesn’t? At least mk4 has the impact
full nebula
I hope they do a sweeping balance patch on the update
fleet zealot
Maybe mk12 but i dont care for that variant
harsh quartz
Idk it kind of pisses me off the dueling sword lmb spam is some of the best cleaving in the game and just slightly charged heavy attacks one shot everything
Makes everything else feel inferior
fleet zealot
Idk it kind of pisses me off the dueling sword lmb spam is some of the best clea...
Wdym best cleaving
It’s 3.0 cleave
harsh quartz
It clears hordes like crazy
fleet zealot
It’s base cleave is lower than mk15 evi target cap
fleet zealot
It clears hordes like crazy
Not really
It’s average
It is by no means crazy
You can’t even proc rampage vs 3 bruiser
ornate bone
It’s 3.0 cleave
I think they increased it to 4.5
full nebula
It doesn't sweep but it still clears well for a single target poke weapon
fleet zealot
I think they increased it to 4.5
I think that is PA
winged vessel
Idk it kind of pisses me off the dueling sword lmb spam is some of the best clea...
yeah we all agree its a bit uncanny that a toothpick is the most efficient weapon at killing warp entities
that are like twice our size
full nebula
Gimmie saltzpyre rapier
harsh quartz
I get what you are saying. I understand stuff like Evis or heavy sword better but the fact it clears as well as it does while being so amazing vs elites is ridiculous
winged vessel
Gimmie saltzpyre rapier
thats pretty much the dueling sword
aoe m1s single target mega damage stab
full nebula
Nah it's different, they do similar things but feel different
winged vessel
they feel different but at the core they are pretty much the same weapon
only difference id see is that
full nebula
Every sword that can poke is gonna be the same
misty nova
It clears hordes like crazy
Not really
Zealots can walk away with Duelist and crits to like kill a single groaner or walker
But like if you're not a zealot then you need rampage
full nebula
There's also the fact that ds4 is more of a saber
south folio
DS lights are 4.5 and PA is 6 or so
winged vessel
true when are we gonna get our beloved space spears
fading vale
DS lights are 4.5 and PA is 6 or so
tf are you doing here
harsh quartz
I think this game would really benefit from a new enemy faction, I’d drop another 60 dollars for it
misty nova
If it's any consolation you'll be able to stab while running with the Great sword
Or something like that
south folio
tf are you doing here
being a gamer
winged vessel
we already have armory that clearly surpasses the average grunt, a power glaive from the lucifer blacks is due
full nebula
I want a new knife too that's nothing but extremely fast pokes. Give it lower damage idgaf, but I want nothing but prison shank style pokes 20 times to the face.
winged vessel
I think this game would really benefit from a new enemy faction, I’d drop anothe...
genestealer update one day.
misty nova
I want a new knife too that's nothing but extremely fast pokes. Give it lower da...
And somehow the body adm isn't bad
light badge
zealot chat, make me a psyker build
solar gorge
the legs are sadly not universal
full nebula
Make the push attack an overhead stab similar to mark 3
solar gorge
too good to be true
full nebula
Mark 3 heavy
placid fiber
zealot chat, make me a psyker build
not until you main ogryn
winged vessel
ill have you back one day...my sweet....
light badge
not until you main ogryn
nuh uh
drowsy steppe
smite
light badge
scrier smite
keystone?
solar gorge
ill have you back one day...my sweet....
imagine the ds but the guard is up when you're charging heavies
misty nova
zealot chat, make me a psyker build
light badge
sounds hilarious
misty nova
I will not elaborate 
winged vessel
imagine the ds but the guard is up when you're charging heavies
i swear to god the bret sword makes its space return this next update
full nebula
Melee good
solar gorge
i don't want that thing in dt because ik fs would make it absolutely ball busted
winged vessel
then the next weapon i will fiend for is a power glaive (hopefully with kerillian's glaive moveset)
full nebula
Let teammates worry about specials, there's only 7 per game anyway
winged vessel
i don't want that thing in dt because ik fs would make it absolutely ball busted
a weapon to surpass the holy toothpick
full nebula
I wouldn't mind seeing something similar to kerillians glaive tbh
solar gorge
Let teammates worry about specials, there's only 7 per game anyway
multiply 7 by 20 and that's the average amount of specials per histg's
placid fiber
in vt it's restricted to a class with only melee
which one?
winged vessel
considering the power sword's activation seems to be a timed buff, instead of a buff for 1 swing
maybe when the sword is powered, it becomes brett sword and then when its off is not
south folio
how about, when it is powered, it's a bret sword, and when it's unpowered, it's a bret sword
winged vessel
Let teammates worry about specials, there's only 7 per game anyway
what games do u play that theres only 7 specials
solar gorge
which one?
grail knight
light badge
perfectly balanced curios (disgusting)
placid fiber
grail knight
what, bret? Cause you can use that on any kruber career
full nebula
I'm obviously joking, but even on legend there's half the amount as a damnation game
solar gorge
can you ?
winged vessel
perfectly balanced curios (disgusting)
can i rob you
placid fiber
I haven't played vt2 in a while
placid fiber
no
full nebula
💀
elfin steppe
Why do I always have a bot with me
solar gorge
i'd never equip that on other career
i still think it used to be restricted for some reason
placid fiber
I've used it on all careers since I got it
I mean... it horde clears... it armor kills...
solar gorge
hammer on fk
full nebula
If they directly ported the halberd I wouldn't complain, it's fantastic
solar gorge
exe or zwei on merc
placid fiber
I mean for hordes you just use lights 1 and 2... for armor you push push attack into heavy 2 then light 3 then heavy 2 then light 3 etc etc
full nebula
I use exe too, but it's too goddamn slow
full nebula
It's still slow on merc lmao
Halberds a more complicated weapon, but it's faster, and the mixed combos are nice for clearing/single target
Ohh
Powersword shockmaul dual wield combo for sword/mace
Lmao
full nebula
You know now that I think about it, where the dual wield guns at
Gimmie space double duck foot pistols
Make em lazers
placid fiber
that's basically what it looks like when you have 3 recon vets on your team
full nebula
Double plasma pistols, that can charge and shoot one large blast
placid fiber
chewing through ammo faster than I can on my gunlugger when there are 6+ monsters in a run...
placid fiber
That's what it looks like when there are 3 surge staff psykers in your team lol
harsh quartz
Plasma pistol/power sword would be my go to combo. Dawn of war force commander
winged vessel
What the human characters really need is an lmg
why yes lets make ogryn more obsolete
😭
full nebula
Ogryn needs a single shot slug version of the rumbler
Need to fire a gigantic bolter round
stone fern
mfw when ogryn get a sniper rifle before vets...
solar gorge
the only thing that matters about ogryn's new stubber is that there's a fucking flashlight
drowsy steppe
in vt it's restricted to a class with only melee
hate GK for this reason
solar gorge
which makes light out tolerable with ogryn
stone fern
the only thing that matters about ogryn's new stubber is that there's a fucking ...
switching it on has a 50% chance of not working because ogryn press the wrong button
full nebula
I don't even use those on humans
solar gorge
you need them for the cinema
full nebula
Gimmie a pistol or something that doesn't take 10 years to take out and put away
I'd use a small flashlight on something like that
Oooo
Laser pointer for guns
No
No customization, GWS SAID NOOOO
Improve our property?!!
misty nova
<@492137137722884107> WHY IS IT GOOD
You get a lot of uptime on different bonuses
full nebula
misty nova
It's specially funny on Divifixig maelstroms or something like that
You can insta kill a wave of bursters with smite and they'll proc Psy Aura and feed you Warp Syphon
So you can activate Warp Unbound while being on the last seconds of the last unbound
spare dome
yes thats the thing about smite
it already has all the right parts to be a really cool and flexible support tool
but it also has all the parts to be an annoyin ass bitch
grave cypress
I never remember flamers being so damn explodey and volatile
full nebula
U guis kil da stof n il lightnin frum here
plain dragon
brothers, I miss the slug spam :(
misty nova
I never remember flamers being so damn explodey and volatile
Added with UnL
If it's sparking it'll detonate
full nebula
https://tenor.com/view/emperor-palpatine-sidious-lightning-mortis-clone-wars-gif-8105493954523190526
Smite psyker expectation
Smite psyker reality
grave cypress
Added with UnL
now explain to me the intracicies between green and normal fire and their effects on the player
sullen forge
Skin hahnda alive immediately
misty nova
The hitbox on the canisters are pretty forgiving from the front as well
full nebula
Average smite psyker
misty nova
now explain to me the intracicies between green and normal fire and their effect...
It would be faster to indicate you to Kuli's guide
So like
potent shuttle
Think we will ever get a cosmetic for the heavy sword like this?
harsh quartz
Average smite psyker
That’s more like your average state funded group home
misty nova
Does anyone have a link to Kuli's guide?
gusty orbit
Average smite psyker
Homemade frag grenade
full nebula
KRAK GRENADE
harsh quartz
Think we will ever get a cosmetic for the heavy sword like this?
Yes in dark souls
grave cypress
Think we will ever get a cosmetic for the heavy sword like this?
god I hope so. a heavy sword that doesnt look anime would be tight
harsh quartz
😉
sullen forge
Lethal Proximity Shredder Build
plain dragon
I finished a match of rolling steel with exactly one hitpoint I fucking love martyrdom
full nebula
See, if you have no expectations you're never disappointed
placid fiber
See, if you have no expectations you're never disappointed <:KEKW_ogryn:10220771...
Exactly how I treat randos
potent shuttle
I guess weapons customization it is then
full nebula
And just like them, it's a pleasant surprise when they do something
placid fiber
Exactly how I see it lol
Hey... they don't immediately die...? I can work with that
placid fiber
I guess weapons customization it is then
Just remember: that will make your game crash more often
potent shuttle
god I hope so. a heavy sword that doesnt look anime would be tight
The curved weighted sword has proven to be a very good weapon, the weight on the end helps push the blade threw, i just want a claymor
copper hawk
None of the hs's look like anime swords,,
The hs 9 is one of the better representations of a 1459 or danzig messer ive seen in a bideo game,,
The other ones look like hunting swords though
plain dragon
The heavy swords are all sabres and one falchion wtf are you saying "anime"
undone pewter
Think we will ever get a cosmetic for the heavy sword like this?
You're better off waiting for the relic sword tbh
grave cypress
If its a curved sword I want it proper arabian, wide, Tf2 persian persuader, I've just come from Disneys Alladin
Anything else make it straight or im not interested
plain dragon
Mfers see curved blades and immediately think "omg just like katana"
potent shuttle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/786208719200583710/1309045963620487178/ee...
That hot!!
placid fiber
The heavy sword looks nothing like a katana
plain dragon
Yes I am aware
misty nova
somehow
You're not reliant on EP
So you're not forced to hold smite for long periods of time to do something
You can also weave smite for interrupts because no worries about EP
plain dragon
I was making fun of symbol for calling rhe heavies anime
I did not say I see katana in it
frosty herald
The heavy sword is a scimitar
placid fiber
I did not say I see katana in it
I know
winged vessel
how do mfs thing katana when they see a curved blade
plain dragon
The heavy sword is a scimitar
One of them is a messer
winged vessel
shouldnt you think "scimitar"
plain dragon
I want more swords
full nebula
Need 2 handed war picks for humans
copper hawk
Scimitar just means sword lol
winged vessel
I want more swords
ay, we will infact get more swords
copper hawk
There's different kinds
potent shuttle
I remember a comparison video on a scimitar vs a katana, they both can cut but the scimitar was much easier to use
copper hawk
And no, they're not sabers
None of them are
They might be hangers but not sabers
The 9 is a messer
frosty herald
Shitt man i need some power tools as weapons
copper hawk
A saber needs to be one handed and most sabers didnt have knuckle bows
frosty herald
Gimme a saw or a pickaxe
copper hawk
Those would be cuttoes, cutlasses, or hangers
Hanger is also known as a hunting sword
grave cypress
plain dragon
A saber needs to be one handed and most sabers didnt have knuckle bows
Gonna go two hand a sabre to fuck with you
copper hawk
They're all just different kinds of falchions
full nebula
plain dragon
a practice sword
a literal falchion
full nebula
This but space
opaque island
And no, they're not sabers
copper hawk
Except the 9 which is likely a messer
full nebula
Give high pen, mediocre clear
plain dragon
Reminder we still need polearms and that the imperium does still make use of spears and lances
full nebula
Space halberd need it
copper hawk
It's kinda funny that the heavy swords are swords designed to chop through armor or just with power in general but have less pen then other swords in the game lol
plain dragon
Catachan makes use of regular old glaives sometimes
placid fiber
Space halberd need it
plain dragon
It's kinda funny that the heavy swords are swords designed to chop through armor...
The other swords are chainsaws or monomolecular plasma fields bonded to vaguely sword shaped hunks of metal
Heavy sword has no excuse tho
copper hawk
Chainsaw would fucking suck against armor in reality
plain dragon
Yeah but it's 40k so chainsaws are fucking cool
frosty herald
Eisenhorn has a power sword thats just a hilt with the sword projecting itself
copper hawk
Only recently did i discover that chainswords have the tips of the saw teeth coated in mcguffinite
And that's why they dont dull instantly
plain dragon
I wouldn't use a chainsaw on flesh irl either
frosty herald
Only recently did i discover that chainswords have the tips of the saw teeth coa...
A displacer field
opaque island
It's called a heavy sword yet we swing that bitch around like it's not heavy, what's up with that
copper hawk
What's even cooler are the force sword chainswords
frosty herald
Every single astartes melee weapon uses a displacer field
plain dragon
It's called a heavy sword yet we swing that bitch around like it's not heavy, wh...
A falchion is a relatively heavy sword is it not
placid fiber
I wouldn't use a chainsaw on flesh irl either
exactly, it would suck against that as well lol
copper hawk
Falchions are yah
plain dragon
Swords in general are pretty light
copper hawk
They're weighted at the top and towards the front
undone pewter
3rd knife that's a karambit so we can get a karambit fade
copper hawk
But theyre generally pretty light
full nebula
Give space axe and falchion that'll take crusher heads off like vt
copper hawk
Source; I do messer in hema
plain dragon
But falchions are designed to give you really good weight just for a good chop
placid fiber
swords are like... 0.8-1.5 kgs
plain dragon
Source; I do messer in hema
God I wanna do hema and buhurt so badly
placid fiber
they're really fucking light lol
full nebula
Long two handed axes would be neat
plain dragon
My ass can only afford foam fighting ;-;
plain dragon
Long two handed axes would be neat
TWO HANDED CHAIN AXE WHEN
full nebula
Horizontal charged sweep with chain axe
light badge
punished for my sins lol
full nebula
plain dragon
I don't like that chorus disables my ability to kill for like 5 seconds
When veteran gives everyone toughness and overheal he can do it while he's still shooting
placid fiber
I don't like that chorus disables my ability to kill for like 5 seconds
chorus is great for randos cause they might not be useful anyway... and it gives a useful effect
full nebula
But chorus holds enemies for the duration
placid fiber
for us? Chorus disables our ability to kill, yeah
winged vessel
punished for my sins lol
game said "alr ur done"
frosty herald
even when i use it my teammates don't take advantage of it
Same
plain dragon
But chorus holds enemies for the duration
You know what else stops enemies? Having their heads removed from their bodies
placid fiber
Unless we push them off a ledge with chorus
stable cypress
nah chorus is shit on randos b/c they don't use it well either
frosty herald
I can even tag enemies but they just do fuckall
full nebula
Lol. Not always an option in a timely manner
gusty orbit
I don't like that chorus disables my ability to kill for like 5 seconds
I don't like to admit it but chorus is a random player saving machine, it's crazy how much the perceived skill of someone can go up when they have golden toughness
full nebula
Sometimes it's nice to have breathing room
plain dragon
You know what else makes breathing room? A room full of dead poxwalkers
placid fiber
even when i use it my teammates don't take advantage of it
Yeah that's why I say it's useful on randos since we're smart enough make use of it lol
full nebula
And 5 crushers cornering you
plain dragon
Boltpistol and stun grenade fucj yeag
opaque island
But theyre generally pretty light
I know in reality even great swords are pretty light relatively, but I want my big video game swords to feel big and meaty when I swing em, and I hope these ones we're getting do
plain dragon
Relic blades better remove head from neck better than the MkXV eviscerator
gusty orbit
They'll probably have head magnetism like 60% of DarkTide melee weapons
violet hornet
I always use the "thank you" emote when a random actually uses chorus correctly, shit can be really nice in a few circumstances
Pox gas missions or just large gas bomber coverage in particular
plain dragon
They'll probably have head magnetism like 60% of DarkTide melee weapons
Yes but will they cleave through nine people in one swing
gusty orbit
I always use the "thank you" emote when a random actually uses chorus correctly,...
When a random uses it I can just go monke and tank infinite bursters, snipers, attacks, anything
winged vessel
I always use the "thank you" emote when a random actually uses chorus correctly,...
randoms i play with have enough brain power to atleast revive someone when im chorusing
gusty orbit
As long as I'm taking it, the randoms are not, so that's a free win
violet hornet
Or when I'm clearly opening up space for a revive and they come chorus on top of us
violet hornet
randoms i play with have enough brain power to atleast revive someone when im ch...
Exactly, this is one of the best uses for sure
gusty orbit
Yes but will they cleave through nine people in one swing
Power weapons so probably, I do hope to see sunder for silly non stop cleaving
plain dragon
I need a flail for my flagellent girl
winged vessel
Exactly, this is one of the best uses for sure
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j091sAJEJcc_QDvqf?invite=cr-MSxHTW8sNTk3NTI2NDMs sometimes i get randoms like this tho (ignore me getting my ass beat by the sniper)
rocky nacelle
full nebula
Double flails that you can charge heavies on, and do mixed combo with
copper hawk
I know in reality even great swords are pretty light relatively, but I want my b...
troo
lunar fable
randoms i play with have enough brain power to atleast revive someone when im ch...
last night i played with a bull rush ogryn that decided to run over a group of ragers that i had stunned with chorus
lunar fable
instead of reviving the psyker who was in the middle of them all
full nebula
What shes holding
winged vessel
Not the girl
ah yes the new meta weapon for zealots
an asian girl
rocky nacelle
@frosty herald when 3v3 noob
gusty orbit
If y'all had to bet, how much time does DarkTide have left in the tank? I'd say 2 years because of server expenses
Fuck this game should've been P2P like any other xd
plain dragon
If y'all had to bet, how much time does DarkTide have left in the tank? I'd say ...
Fatshark does the vermintide special and keeps it on life support until their company collapsed
rocky nacelle
somehow within the span of a single day I see people (soykers) talking that Tness regen speed is good
modern lintel
@sterile stone maybe shcizo posting but iv not seen any other trucks have flashing lights like this and i cant seem to put together a code to the door based on anything near to it
long oasis
Fuck this game should've been P2P like any other xd
it is pay to play?
rocky nacelle
yup havoc is gonna be something else
gusty orbit
it is pay to play?
Peer to peer
long oasis
oh
full nebula
We need some space machetes
long oasis
acronyms 🗿
plain dragon
Honestly yeah peer to peer matchmaking is just better in general imo
modern lintel
also @rocky nacelle i shilled and bought into sharkfish again
rocky nacelle
also damn soykers have shitty fashion
plain dragon
rocky nacelle
(can’t say I’m surprised though)
winged vessel
also <@139852743358545920> i shilled and bought into sharkfish again
tbf the power pack is pretty damn cool
now all we need is some power armor looking thing
plain dragon
They have some cool options fatshark just gives us nothing but hobofashion for everyone but vets
modern lintel
the most fun is being able to put fits together from diff drops
full nebula
Where my hug
plain dragon
Beasts of Nurgle be like
rocky nacelle
Yea like peoples first ideas is combining the new soyker chest with hobo pants
people just suck wit being drippy
winged vessel
this why i just wear full sets half the time
steep flame
The hobo pants are fire
winged vessel
im not a for the drip mod lord
rocky nacelle
the most fun is being able to put fits together from diff drops
No bro that’s fomo……:/((//
grizzled aspen
@hard nexus I'm saying yarp irl now what the fuck have you done to my speech patterns?
rocky nacelle
im not a for the drip mod lord
I don’t use it either
rocky nacelle
<@265332960792805378> I'm saying yarp irl now what the fuck have you done to my ...
Mental deficiency
undone pewter
Welcome back billhook
full nebula
That'd be nice
modern lintel
No bro that’s fomo……:/((//
they should hire me
rocky nacelle
war scythe is gnarly
full nebula
They should make a spiked mace too
plain dragon
That's not a fucking halberd that's a bardiche what the fuck
modern lintel
im surprised they came out w another shockmaul skin so fast yet double barrel which i think is vastly more popular still stuck on a mastery skin
full nebula
Poleaxe is vt halberd looks like
undone pewter
They should make a spiked mace too
We kinda got that with the shockmaul
rocky nacelle
It is (agni)
light badge
<@291304964569956355> that ogryn
?
full nebula
frosty herald
Lochaber axe sounds mean
lunar fable
what a smart guy
rocky nacelle
i was in your game
sorry for your loss
lunar fable
going for the downed bot
full nebula
Bunch of patterns mostly
lunar fable
instead of the two people who were netted
i need to get that spidey senses mod
i've been encountering silent specials very often lately
lunar fable
anyways
frosty herald
Get fucked downed leavers
frosty herald
You now get back into the game as hogtied
hard nexus
<@265332960792805378> I'm saying yarp irl now what the fuck have you done to my ...
:3
blame cica
hard nexus
<@265332960792805378> what do you not take to run grievous
post ur build
alternatively you can run falter or hammerblow on the shock maul
misty nova
Death of reconnect mod
Question mark
modern lintel
leaving games will gimp you now
misty nova
No but FS will change alt F4 ing
modern lintel
or soon
hard nexus
source
lunar fable
i'm using the generic piety build
modern lintel
#📢news-bulletin dumby
lunar fable
i took off faithful for grievous
solar gorge
dumb maran
hard nexus
i just never saw that
i must’ve overlooked that part of the notes
oopsies
i need my 2h power sword
and i need it
now
full nebula
Nooo, how are the ps5 players going to cheese their titles?!
hard nexus
i took off faithful for grievous
just post the build
lunar fable
You now get back into the game as hogtied
i thought you were memeing
but this is great
dark spire
No but FS will change alt F4 ing
About fucking time, hope the reconnect mod abusers gets coal for xmas
sullen forge
Get fucked downed leavers
Doesn’t stop people from leaving and finding a new match though lmao
lunar fable
i don't have the compressed tree
full nebula
They should remove all the auric titles after they fix the cheese.
sullen forge
Though it does stop the reconnectors
frosty herald
Doesn’t stop people from leaving and finding a new match though lmao
well
rocky nacelle
good thing frog got auric storm survivor before they fixed that otherwise he’d still be trying for it
frosty herald
leave 3 times and you get a havoc rank down
sullen forge
That’s why you don’t play havoc with randoms cause they’re going to be bad
stable cypress
Smyker should start match hogtied
full nebula
Go LFG and hope you don't have to carry
solar gorge
don't worry i'm sure the randoms you'll find in the party finder will be entertaining enough
ember yew
If a Havoc Assignment (Havoc Order) owner leaves mid-mission without reconnecting it will automatically count as a loss regardless of the result of the mission for that player. It will also mean that player receives no rewards for the attempt, and it will use up one of the three attempts for that specific Havoc Assignment level.
Ingame party finder is gonna be even more funny
ember yew
of course
solar gorge
of course
ember yew
ingame LFG will be a nightmare, at least from what i expect
frosty herald
Question
Are FS concerned about people alt-F4ing this? For the Auric titles it was just the title but this is an entire game mode.
Answer
“Alt+F4:ing” to circumvent the system is something we’ve taken into account, there are two solutions to this issue, one which is bespoke to Havoc and the other a general solution. If a Havoc Assignment (Havoc Order) owner leaves mid-mission without reconnecting it will automatically count as a loss regardless of the result of the mission for that player. It will also mean that player receives no rewards for the attempt, and it will use up one of the three attempts for that specific Havoc Assignment level.
However, players who remain in the Mission will still be able to complete the mission; if they do, it will count as a win for the remaining players.
ALT+F4:ing to circumvent being “downed” to complete harder penances has been an issue with the Auric penance, and to this end, we’ve introduced more checks when players reconnect.** Players will now respawn back with the health count they had upon leaving, instead of being spawned with a minimal % of hp, and players who ALT+F4 to get around being downed will now spawn back hogtied.
**This is a game wide change coming with Grim Protocols, and it is not exclusive to Havoc.
lunar fable
i wish they implemented that hogtied thing earlier
grizzled aspen
blame cica
I blame you @copper hawk
full nebula
I grouped in lfg 4-5 times a week or two ago idk. I had to carry over and over, for people who were supposed to know how to play in auric
lunar fable
i did half of mine with a friend
lunar fable
and did the rest of the games solo
rocky nacelle
I grouped in lfg 4-5 times a week or two ago idk. I had to carry over and over, ...
thx for the carry
frosty herald
Due to the vast amount of permutations in the mode, there will not be any matchmaking in this game mode. Also the difficulty is so significant that you will want to tailor the group more specifically than a matchmaking service could do effectively. This is one of the reasons we created the Group Finder, which we hope will see a significant increase in use with the release of this feature.
solar gorge
being locked to pre-made is necessary
sullen forge
Look I’m just saying
solar gorge
but it'll mean the gamemode will probably not get many players
rocky nacelle
but it'll mean the gamemode will probably not get many players
awesome, built in gate keeping
sullen forge
awesome, built in gate keeping
Built in “Stay out of my Aurics”
misty nova
Eh I'll probably play 1 or 2 havocs then drop it
misty nova
Don't feel like grinding
full nebula
What's wild is you mostly see ASS on people who cheese. Not many want to cheese 10 missions straight for Exemplar
solar gorge
i'll try to max it using only the partyfinder
celest jolt
not being able to replay havoc assignment levels unless someone happens to be hosting that level sounds bad
solar gorge
just like i only pub auric histg
ember yew
What's wild is you mostly see ASS on people who cheese. Not many want to cheese ...
People cheese exemplar by doing the easiest ones, like doggos
solar gorge
i wish i could pub havocs but alas
sullen forge
Getting to 40
full nebula
Sure, but it's still a longer process
solar gorge
i expect the partyfinder people to be equivalent to publets
sullen forge
Then dropping it once I get the rewards
ember yew
Sure, but it's still a longer process
The worst was still the one with 15 wins
lunar fable
i kept running maels after ASS to get my exemplar
ember yew
i almost died from boredom
ember yew
i think i didnt run lower diffs and fucked up at around 10
so i started all over again
full nebula
Pain
ember yew
it was back in january or something
full nebula
If the difficulty requirement is lower and it's something like that, ima just get it out of the way lol
copper hawk
I blame you <@576701404475949056>
yarp
frosty herald
Im pret sure havoc will recieve changes due to feedback even before the update releases
full nebula
Give me 2 of these on zealot
ember yew
and we are sure it wont receive any changes for at least 2 months after release, since FS will sail to Hawaii
full nebula
Inb4 major bugs
ember yew
leaving 2 interns doing hotfixes
full nebula
Inb4 backend collapses
pine osprey
Give me 2 of these on zealot
the dagger throwing does seem pretty ninja like already
full nebula
Gimmie a throwable short range ranged weapon on a chain
Or make psyker lightning it back to hand
pine osprey
Give me 2 of these on zealot
gonna throw them around like kratos from god of war, maybe light them on fire?
full nebula
Imagine if you could stick something with it, then pull them forward to stagger
Something
Something like kratos' gauntlets for ogryn would be neat
visual stream
I saved a spider that was barely moving in the shower a few minutes ago and now he's movin 
misty nova
Bro wants the Kusarigamas
full nebula
Step on it
pine osprey
Something like kratos' gauntlets for ogryn would be neat
if ogryn got that, I would refuse to use any other weapon
pine osprey
id be the gauntlet main
visual stream
SPIDERS just mind their own business
Direct all thine hate toward fruitflies and roaches
rocky nacelle
Spiders are freaky but 99% of the time they are not trying to bite you
and are more scared of you
considering you’re a giant and all
rocky nacelle
I wouldn’t fuck with a huntsman though
full nebula
rocky nacelle
just cause how they look
solar gorge
they're right to fear I am a god
pine osprey
OH WAIT, can you punch with the grenade gauntlet?
pine osprey
I is stoopid
rocky nacelle
yes that career is shit
noe huntsman spider noob….
full nebula
You have to be standing 1 foot away to make contact
copper hawk
pine osprey
I wanna see the two handed power sword
pine osprey
is it just a repurposed one handed spacemarine sword?
full nebula
Yes give me uruk hai sword
rocky nacelle
It’s a relic sword
opal star
"Players will now respawn back with the health count they had upon leaving, instead of being spawned with a minimal % of hp, and players who ALT+F4 to get around being downed will now spawn back hogtied."
hOLY SHIT?
rocky nacelle
after havoc it’s time for them to add off shore account and infamy prestiges
sullen forge
after havoc it’s time for them to add off shore account and infamy prestiges
Guys, the auspex scanner, go get it
hushed knoll
after havoc it’s time for them to add off shore account and infamy prestiges
When will you switch to vet
hushed knoll
https://tenor.com/view/crushing-science-steeldrumcrushed-unexpected-implosion-gi...
What does this have to do with what Honduras posted
ember yew
What does this have to do with what Honduras posted
barrels help
pine osprey
I feel like the two handed power swords are gonna feel like this
winged vessel
I feel like the two handed power swords are gonna feel like this
funny since kratos 1 handed this sword
ember yew
I feel like the two handed power swords are gonna feel like this
the models are already in the game, they are much smaller
at least rn
pine osprey
the models are already in the game, they are much smaller
no, but its what it will feel like when you charge up the blade, I will say the line EVERY TIME
sullen forge
Paradise found dead playing Vet
rocky nacelle
Guys, the auspex scanner, go get it
You act like hadron isn’t like this with servo skulls
pine osprey
"ZEUS, YOUR SON HAS RETURNED, I BRING THE DESTRUCTION OF OLYMPUS"
full nebula
If there's not a barrel down the spine of the blade, yeah that ain't it chief
If it's firing the bullet from the cylinder
Nah
Doesn't work dog
No pen
ember yew
Where does the bullet come out btw
here used to be a hole for the bullet
in the original game
full nebula
Forgot to model the barrel hole
ember yew
full nebula
Just fires from nothing lol
pine osprey
and we have this thing IRL
pine osprey
zealot alreadty has a double barrel, we gonna yeehaw all the way with this one!
gleaming furnace
Wait how does that thing work
full nebula
No barrel means no penetration, so by that logic in a fatshark game it should shred
gleaming furnace
If you wear the knuckles the barrel is pointing towards you
full nebula
The knuckles fold forward, you hold the gun for some reason
Make it a bolter
Just give ogryn a plasma cannon
Make it better than plasma rifle so vets are mad
pine osprey
The knuckles fold forward, you hold the gun for some reason
reminds me of the pistol glove that goes off when you punch your target
full nebula
But infinitely worse
misty ravine
Mk3 Helbore is right there ||the sword bayonet fucking sucks||
full nebula
It used to be good
pine osprey
what if we gave zealot this but rotery, like a revolver
full nebula
They nerfed it because people were just brain dead stabbing with it
gleaming furnace
Zealot shotgun cane
pine osprey
closest you get is ultramar ogryn premium cosmetics
frosty herald
apothecary a very big maybe
but bulwark's contested health banner needs to be gutted for the apothecary to even be considered
frosty herald
nah
contested health banner perk for bulwark is the only teamwide healing atm
if you know how to play well bulwark is invincible
frosty herald
sm2 yup
pine osprey
zealot gots a few abilities that regen willpower
frosty herald
librarian would need to have either a full kit of staves
or primary is different schools of psychic abilities
like pyromancer diviner sanctic etc
pine osprey
or primary is different schools of psychic abilities
maybe a spellbook?
frosty herald
the marine would be killed instantly for having a spellbook
pine osprey
not actual spells
frosty herald
magic is tzeentch's realm and psychic powers come from the warp
but i do understand what you mean
full nebula
Be neat to see some limited high explosive ranged weapon
pine osprey
just a relic that allows you to tap into psycher powers
gleaming furnace
Kickback and rightfully so
full nebula
Chad obsidian vs soy bethesda
frosty herald
2734 different unique power fists in NV
some are useless tho
like the golden gloves or boxing tape
why do fatigue damage when you can use a ballistic fist
stone fern
boxing tape is fine if you use it early
man veronica with the ballistic fist is something else
misty nova
man veronica with the ballistic fist is something else
Peak mentioned
visual stream
Chad obsidian vs soy bethesda
My goat Obsidian
sterile stone
<@401737241115754527> maybe shcizo posting but iv not seen any other trucks hav...
I don't blame you for feeling this way
full nebula
Yep
sterile stone
I was telling Vin that I swore military hit squads were following me
rocky nacelle
My goat Obsidian
yo
full nebula
And it's better than anything Bethesdas made for a lonnnng time
rocky nacelle
relax on fo3
sterile stone
Cause everywhere I turned, there was just always a squad of 5 dudes walking towards me
rocky nacelle
i grew up with fo3 so im one of the rare actual fo3 enjoyers
frosty herald
theres 2 really good legion mods taht were released recently for new vegas
rocky nacelle
NV > 3 > 4
frosty herald
but both are in the bottom right corner near dry wells
frosty herald
fallout 3 has a better world
rocky nacelle
Much more complete
this is debatable
considering the endings
fo3 had more actual endings imo
frosty herald
new vegas kinda feels empty whilst the skyscrapers and subway tunnels were genuinely fun to explore
sullen forge
It’s glazed to hell and back but it’s fun I’ll say that
visual stream
NV > 3 > 4
Agreed
frosty herald
(yes man ending 24/7 or bust)
house ending
sullen forge
Reminder how the base game crashes constantly without unofficial patching
sterile stone
@modern lintel Someone found a exo skeleton in Garbage right off spawn
frosty herald
dont use the unnoficial new vegas patch mod
visual stream
compared to FO3
Tbf they had to do a post-release DLC patch just for Fawkes to not be a destiny-glazing dick
full nebula
It is, in a lot of aspects
stone fern
fo3 had more actual endings imo
I am sorry my companion
vernal terrace
You get a much more enjoyable game experience if you use the mod that combines both games imo, the system improvements to new vegas in fallout 3 are great
frosty herald
hawkes the literal super mutant refusing to turn of the generator is he stupid?
modern lintel
<@346218953862938626> Someone found a exo skeleton in Garbage right off spawn
i think spawns are procedural or something i started using a vss a little after not seing 9x39 ammo for like 10 hours now its falling from the skys almost
rocky nacelle
I am sorry my companion
gets the best possible ending by letting his super mutant friend he randomly saved do the mission
sterile stone
i think spawns are procedural or something i started using a vss a little afte...
Nah this isn't rng
It's a set spawn
Praise the monolit
vernal terrace
hawkes the literal super mutant refusing to turn of the generator is he stupid?
he will do it if you have broken steel tbf all your companions refused to do it without broken steel even Charon (a ghoul) and a fucking mister gutsy
stone fern
>gets the best possible ending by letting his super mutant friend he randomly sa...
thats not part of the main game
frosty herald
yes i know
stone fern
you have to PAY
light badge
lol. lmao.
stone fern
you have to PAY
frosty herald
he will do it if you have broken steel tbf all your companions refused to do it ...
that is fucking stupid lmao
olive spear
for deatch cult assassin is the catachan knif ebtter than the rapier?
frosty herald
i didnt know you could let fawkes or a gutsty do it
modern lintel
It's a set spawn
also was the named ak the one w the grenade launcher u were talking about
frosty herald
para
stone fern
it was when I played since I grew up on GOTY edition
this dude is calling people zoomers
modern lintel
i found two named smgs one was a mp5 w a drum mag
frosty herald
i played new vegas 5 times all the way through ON THE PS3 EDITION
sterile stone
also was the named ak the one w the grenade launcher u were talking about
Oh nah I got it from a side quest
vernal terrace
Like you can be like hey the chamber is irritated can you go do that
stone fern
i played new vegas 5 times all the way through ON THE PS3 EDITION
i kneel
vernal terrace
And they are like nah I don’t think I will
stone fern
litearl chad
frosty herald
I ADORED NEW VEGAS ON THE PS3 IT CRASHED SO FUCKING MUCH
AND I STILL PLAYED IT FULLY
rocky nacelle
i played new vegas 5 times all the way through ON THE PS3 EDITION
🥱 solo dead rising 2 on ps3 when i was 11-12 better
frosty herald
MULTIPLE TIMES
sterile stone
I was helping collect money for bandits harrassing a guy, then the guy was like "climb on the water tower, it's there"
fast iron
hallo does anyone have information on THE HEAVY EVISCERATOR. Specifically perks needed for a melee centric zealot using it and blessings.
sterile stone
Sniped 3 banditos with that ak cause it's got a sniper scope
rocky nacelle
hallo does anyone have information on THE HEAVY EVISCERATOR. Specifically perks ...
flak/maniac (perks), rampage/bloodthirsty (blessings) or rampage/shred
modern lintel
Oh nah I got it from a side quest
oh i walked up to some settlement and some guy was like bro i dropped my gun in the river can you get it and i went got it walked up to him and was like damn this belongs to me now it has a nade launcher and like quick swap mag
vernal terrace
I ADORED NEW VEGAS ON THE PS3 IT CRASHED SO FUCKING MUCH
New vegas is a fucking shell on the ps3 I actually use it as my example of how bad that console was at running things that weren’t exclusives
light badge
hallo does anyone have information on THE HEAVY EVISCERATOR. Specifically perks ...
why did bro shout its name lol
sterile stone
oh i walked up to some settlement and some guy was like bro i dropped my gun in ...
Oooooh the Drowned Ak
I gave that back to the dude
fast iron
flak/maniac (perks), rampage/bloodthirsty (blessings) or rampage/shred
ah so similar to the assault chainsword for the hammer of the emperor guide then
modern lintel
i kept that shit fuck em
vernal terrace
a lot more npcs got cut from that version, scripted events don’t exist cause the console can’t handle them etc etc
fast iron
~~why did bro shout its name lol~~
because THE HEAVY EVISCERATOR is one of the best weapons in the EMPEROR'S NAME
rocky nacelle
hallo does anyone have information on THE HEAVY EVISCERATOR. Specifically perks ...
what I said is if you run the mk15, if you run the mk3 do flak/elites and go ramp/savage sweep
sterile stone
i kept that shit fuck em
Bro said tough luck buddy, finders keepers
rocky nacelle
pretty simple setups though
fast iron
what I said is if you run the mk15, if you run the mk3 do flak/elites and go ram...
hmmm ragers don't count as elites do they
rocky nacelle
they are maniacs first
misty mason
ngghhghg
rocky nacelle
iirc
misty mason
REddddiiiiit
modern lintel
Bro said tough luck buddy, finders keepers
it was literally 100% broken tho so basically had to buy it as a repair tho
frosty herald
New vegas is a fucking shell on the ps3 I actually use it as my example of how b...
new vegas shouldve never been released on the ps3
sterile stone
it was literally 100% broken tho so basically had to buy it as a repair tho
Was talking to Vin about this
fast iron
they are maniacs first
they're maniac armor yeah, but ragers I usually don't have problem with. Tempted to do elites instead if it still targets them.
sterile stone
You should repair guns regularly and not let them get too damaged
rocky nacelle
they're maniac armor yeah, but ragers I usually don't have problem with. Tempted...
mk15 flakiac or flak/unyld or flak/cara
sterile stone
Cause at some point, the repair costs outweigh the value of the gun
rocky nacelle
mk3 flak/elites
frosty herald
You should repair guns regularly and not let them get too damaged
we far cry 2 in this bitch my guns explode in my face like a real man
sterile stone
we far cry 2 in this bitch my guns explode in my face like a real man
If your guns are dirty they will jam
ivory marlin
Thats wild
rocky nacelle
~~why did bro shout its name lol~~
the same reason your hag ass character shouts the same 3 lines 200 times a mission
sterile stone
And your full auto gun jams
rocky nacelle
because they simply can
vernal terrace
Games that make you repair guns are fucking cringe and it should disappear from gaming
modern lintel
If your guns are dirty they will jam
the pump shotgun has crazy durability from fully repaired to like 10% durability i had one singular jam over 10 hours
light badge
the same reason your hag ass character shouts the same 3 lines 200 times a missi...
I'm not dead! Splendid!
sterile stone
the pump shotgun has crazy durability from fully repaired to like 10% durability...
I got the ultimate editiion
rocky nacelle
I'm not dead! Splendid!
i should let you die more often
sterile stone
So somehwere out there
vernal terrace
unless it has more to it than just gun fine, gun dead
light badge
i should let you die more often
I will survive!
rocky nacelle
sterile stone
There's a drum mag Saiga 12 lying around
rocky nacelle
changed to inferior soyker voice
sterile stone
And a 44 revolver
rocky nacelle
hate to see it
pine osprey
Games that make you repair guns are fucking cringe and it should disappear from ...
now, they should do the red dead route, not maintaining your weapon leads to it looking rustic but its still functional
frosty herald
does hahnda use the loner psyker voice