Wire runs thrust and sunder because he's an idiot.
#zealot-class
grizzled aspen
full nebula
Having to charge the ps is bad enough, doing it for literally every hit sounds awful
jagged cradle
Wire runs thrust and sunder because he's an idiot.
Unironically it feels better then sunder pc
lone matrix
not your crap sword again
jagged cradle
not your crap sword again
Peak you mean
grizzled aspen
Unironically it feels better then sunder pc
If uncharged psword actually dealt damage I could be inclined to agree with you.
Unfortunately it tickles so I can only sit here and call you dumb.
vast basin
I agree with frog here, there is no way thrust ever outvalues PC
jagged cradle
If uncharged psword actually dealt damage I could be inclined to agree with you.
Just try it yourself
grizzled aspen
Hopefully vet psword gets this heat mechanic that zealout psword does and power cycler stops being a must-have blessing.
jagged cradle
I agree with frog here, there is no way thrust ever outvalues PC
Oh of course not lmfao but it’s a ok alternative
frosty herald
WIRE YOU CANT EVEN REACH A CRUSHER BREAKPOINT WITH IT
grizzled aspen
Just try it yourself
I think I'd rather die.
jagged cradle
WIRE YOU CANT EVEN REACH A CRUSHER BREAKPOINT WITH IT
Who cares !!!
jagged cradle
Why would I ever do anything for you?
Because of our mutual dislike for Tintin
grizzled aspen
I dont dislike Tintin, I just find him slightly annoying to play with because he doesn't listen.
jagged cradle
Tintin is your simp, ask him.
He can’t touch power sword he’s a dorn grub above all
grizzled aspen
Like I've explained to him that he needs to fucking kill mutants if he wants to do saves and he just retorts with this regurgitated Dorn target priority bullshit.
Like no mf, Dorn's target priority only works for Dorn.
Mainly because he uses map geometry to cuck the mutant a good distance away so he can get the save off.
grizzled aspen
You don't have time.
autumn vector
Whats the name of the mod that lets you test things in pycharium, like set weapon stats and change blessing?
grizzled aspen
Not if you're the last man standing.
full nebula
to dodge?
grizzled aspen
to dodge?
And also deal with the horde closing on you?
You have time to either dodge the mutant or space the horde, not both.
grizzled aspen
Hence why you kill the mutant.
grizzled aspen
let mutant grab and throw you out of the way
You don't have any idea of what you're talking about if this is your approach to that situation.
sterile stone
It's easier to say what you're gonna do in a shit situation vs actually getting it done
grizzled aspen
You can never predict the direction a mutant will throw you and several things will kill you while you're in his hand.
full nebula
Wanna see my clutch clips?
grizzled aspen
Like flamers.
sterile stone
Like a great man once said
sterile stone
Everyone has a plan til they get punched in the face
grizzled aspen
Crusher/mauler overheads.
grizzled aspen
No you can't.
full nebula
ok
grizzled aspen
Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence that's reliable.
full nebula
then go test it chief
sterile stone
In Darktide's case, everyone has a plan til they get swarmed by 3 pox bombers,a few flamers, a horde of trash, and a rager horde with snipers and trappers in the mix
And you're all alone in a cramped room
grizzled aspen
No, I think I'll just dodge and chastise into the mutants back and kill it outright instead of playing ring around the rosie with it.
Much easier that way.
full nebula
Cant even count the number of times im in a res, and i just stop and dodge the net or mutie and continue
grizzled aspen
Dclaw h1 also 1taps with chastise so I don't even have to dodge.
Mk4 specifically.
Point here is, I kill the mutant, loop again, space the horde, and then pull off the res.
full nebula
yes that would be the wise thing to do
grizzled aspen
And Tintin doesn't listen when I explain to him that this is the correct thing to do.
full nebula
Then he dies and learns eventually. Or doesnt¯_(ツ)_/¯
spare talon
In Darktide's case, everyone has a plan til they get swarmed by 3 pox bombers,a ...
I actually have a plan in that situation
My plan is to win
spare talon
Like you did when we played
That was like a year ago at this point
grizzled aspen
Then he dies and learns eventually. Or doesnt¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No he gets shield bashed by a bulwark mid res, gets guard broken, and then gets eaten alive by trash because he won't put the fucking tac axe down.
ornate bone
FOLDING LIKE A WET PIECE OF TOILET PAPER
frosty herald
Now theoretically shouldnt chastice have innate synergy with the greatsword sprinting stab
sterile stone
That was like a year ago at this point
I know, but even still.
ornate bone
WHY YOU FOLDIN LIKE THAT BOY, SOMEONE GONNA USE YA TO WIPE
spare talon
I know, but even still.
You're so mean to me
And for what
grizzled aspen
Now theoretically shouldnt chastice have innate synergy with the greatsword spri...
Inb4 we get a crusher 1shot bp with chastise 2h psword poke.
sterile stone
I like to use you as a point of reference that no matter how good you are, you aren't gonna be able to clutch up everything
Sometimes the game director REALLY REALLY just fucking hates you
grizzled aspen
The director acts like I owe it money.
spare talon
I like to use you as a point of reference that no matter how good you are, you a...
More often than not
It's just mistakes
jagged cradle
There’s no way paword doesn’t get a crit blessing right?
full nebula
I've got a good "clutch" coming through, itll take a second.
grizzled aspen
There’s no way paword doesn’t get a crit blessing right?
It won't, probably.
sterile stone
More often than not
It's just mistakes
You can only go so long before you get fatigue
grizzled aspen
It'll likely be another IJ weapon.
sterile stone
You only have so much health
grizzled aspen
Or it'll fuck hard on martyrdom.
sterile stone
Don't know what that is
spare talon
How long is 711 seconds
full nebula
711 seconds
sterile stone
^
spare talon
Just under 12 minute
jagged cradle
It'll likely be another IJ weapon.
What primary have good swap speed besides the shitty laz pistol
spare talon
Don't know what that is
Eggfever made a creature spawner trial that me and hamdolsun did
grizzled aspen
What primary have good swap speed besides the shitty laz pistol
Autopistol.
spare talon
And it's basically
2-6 of each elites (ragers have a respawn timer and cap)
10-20 of each non elite (horde enemies have a respawn timer and cap)
2 chaos spawns
2 daemonhosts
1 plague ogryn
rodin
rinda
and i think up to 10 specialist spawns on a respawn timer of 10 seconds
spare talon
All at once
sterile stone
All at once
Alright you're doing in a open space like the psycharium.
Okay now what about a place like hourglass
jagged cradle
And laspistol isn't shitty.
I tried it with my psword like you begged me and I wanted to commit self deletion
spare talon
With enough map knowledge
You can make a circle and kite everything
Very few locations prevent that
grizzled aspen
I tried it with my psword like you begged me and I wanted to commit self deletio...
Are you hitting headshots?
sterile stone
One day I'll take you up on this to see how good you are.
grizzled aspen
Because laspistol is headshot oriented.
grizzled aspen
2 or 3 headshots to drop anything that's not a mauler or ogryn.
Also what model?
Because you want mk2.
jagged cradle
Because you want mk2.
Mk2 like you said
grizzled aspen
Idk then, skill issue ig.
jagged cradle
Idk then, skill issue ig.
Nope just bad
grizzled aspen
It has excellent mobility and I can drop gunner packs in 1 mag.
full nebula
1 MAG? NOT 1 BULLET LIKE THE REVOLVER?!!
grizzled aspen
The whole pack.
brazen umbra
The community: "The thunder hammer should be able to one tap literally any non ogryn or mauler with a charged light and reliably one tap literally any elite with a charged heavy"
Fat shark: "Aight bet"
full nebula
Sure revolver will
grizzled aspen
As in like 6 gunners.
full nebula
gotta stand in a straight line
ornate bone
Wacky, even
undone pewter
Bro they actually literally just did exactly what the community said
They did also nerf boss damage a little and then went over so well
bitter anvil
Yeah
spare talon
its all over the screen
You'll have to clean it off again when you see the sprint stabs
grizzled aspen
You'll have to clean it off again when you see the sprint stabs
Do you have any clips of the animations?
spare talon
In my head yes
grizzled aspen
I genuinely hope it's literally just kerillians greatsword.
At least for one of the models.
Maybe for one of the force swords.
craggy python
woah its dropping dec 3?
grizzled aspen
I've still barely ever played VT
Lights are diagonal sweeps and the heavies alternate between a poke and an overhead.
craggy python
thats close
spare talon
I see
grizzled aspen
And the poke animation on it is peak.
craggy python
wonder why they took so long to announce
autumn vector
The real question isnt power swords, or Heavy Stubbers. Its how bright the "ogryn flashlight" will be.
spare talon
That is a question
grizzled aspen
I hope it's like that one fuckall massive light from tarkov.
The one that is almost too bright to even use.
full nebula
the fact that people actually use flashlights is surprising to me
spare talon
Ikr
grizzled aspen
the fact that people actually use flashlights is surprising to me
This game is fucking dark man, even moreso in lights out.
undone pewter
Me too but people need it for lights out apparently so.
autumn vector
I liked the dark missions where all the hordes had glowy eyes and crushers blended into the shadows
full nebula
Gotta get that hdr monitor, for those deep dark areas
helps a lot with darktones actually
elfin steppe
They did also nerf boss damage a little and then went over *so well*
the boss damage nerf is not noticeable at all. you can definitely see people constantly one tab bosses including DH.
naive stirrup
i forget what's good for the combat axe, about to become an achlys main 
bromentum shred though i assume ye?
or headtaker over shred
spare talon
headtaker
spare talon
already a lost cause
naive stirrup
nah i just say fuck headtaker
easy
this one single point idk what to do with imma be real
drop good balance and grab PTU?
my ass forgetting scourge exists for 50% crit chance LOL
autumn vector
Huh. What a shity misconception that was. So thrust on D4 is shit.
full nebula
not on vet
naive stirrup
Huh. What a shity misconception that was. So thrust on D4 is shit.
oh yeah it's a meme
frosty herald
Fatshark nerfing candle chestplate cosmetics cause people were using them in lights out
autumn vector
oh zealot it seems to be
naive stirrup
always has been a meme
autumn vector
shred > thrust on zealot no contest
naive stirrup
Fatshark nerfing candle chestplate cosmetics cause people were using them in lig...
that's fucking stupid
full nebula
its slow but it can 1shot crushers with ws pretty sure
frosty herald
that's fucking stupid
I genuinely think thats the reason for the candles outputting less light
autumn vector
you dont even need full charged heavies
naive stirrup
uncanny + riposte
autumn vector
ill try riposte next
naive stirrup
you dont even need full charged heavies
so fun fact about heavies
autumn vector
for the instant kill probably
naive stirrup
it does not matter how much you charge a heavy attack
if it does not have thrust
it will ALWAYS deal full heavy damage
minimum charge needed
and ds4 is already like, stupid good on zealot because of zealot being a melee focused class
autumn vector
yea anything I got from tanner is just out the window now lol. Wth
Was that a meme video? maybe I missed something lol
So thrust is just a trap for sure
and riposte uptime is silly lol
spare talon
thrust on ds4 is basically to make your already amazing duelling sword able to be a thunderhammer as well
full nebula
Better
ornate bone
CLEAVE ! !
autumn vector
So its just there for big boy boss damage?
naive stirrup
yea anything I got from tanner is just out the window now lol. Wth
oh yeah tanner's a dumbass, this is known
frosty herald
Its there for everything
spare talon
like most blessings for ds4 tbh dont really do much outside of horde clear improvements and crusher/boss dmg tbh
naive stirrup
So its just there for big boy boss damage?
boss damage meme build mainly
i dont think thrust should be on ds
spare talon
cuz basically every enemy is already being shat on
frosty herald
like most blessings for ds4 tbh dont really do much outside of horde clear impro...
Ngl dueling sword has horrid hordeclear
autumn vector
oh yeah tanner's a dumbass, this is known
I thought he was a bit skitzo but uh, maybe ok on something. I questioned it didn't verify. Now I'm verfiying in config. You would think I would know better by now
frosty herald
Which is its only weakness
grizzled aspen
Why do burgles not proc duellist?
naive stirrup
I thought he was a bit skitzo but uh, maybe ok on something. I questioned it did...
he's decent at the game itself, like i've seen some of his gameplay. that's just how it is, but when it comes to certain takes he has in this game it's like
why does he try to defend himself when the ENTIRE COMMUNITY is calling him stupid for it
spare talon
because they are stupid and i hate them
naive stirrup
"uncanny strike is bad" like fuck off
spare talon
tanner is actually quite good at the game
naive stirrup
tanner is actually quite good at the game
correct
spare talon
he's decent at the game itself, like i've seen some of his gameplay. that's just...
but he is just not a nice person and this
autumn vector
Some his takes weren't terrible. Combat ability regen is good. Stamina regen I think might be good but Im not at the level to say. I like having it.
lone matrix
I can smell the heretics in the dark.
isn't hard by nurgle cultist
frosty herald
Make tanner do havoc
naive stirrup
but he is just not a nice person and this
he is not, i would like to have a genuine convo with him at some point but considering he deletes any comments who talk about him critically his ego is just too high to get anything through to him
naive stirrup
Some his takes weren't terrible. Combat ability regen is good. Stamina regen I t...
combat ability regen is not needed for most builds in the game
spare talon
ability cdr curio perks are too small a value on most builds to be worth the 3 curio slots for like 3 seconds
naive stirrup
reminds me i need to get rid of toughness regen speed
i ran out of materials so i was stuck with em for a while
full nebula
So use it with heavy evis and cooldown on crit 
frosty herald
ability cdr curio perks are too small a value on most builds to be worth the 3 c...
Died because chorus was a single second on cooldown😭
spare talon
dont let the voc spammers hear that tho
theyll yell at me saying the game is impossible without those 3 saved seconds on top of situational awareness
autumn vector
So what is the preference then? Thoughts on a stamina curio? I was using tripple toughness for the longest time with toughness/health/GR
naive stirrup
is the small health bump from the minor stats worth it at all? im seriously considering just throwing on ally revive speed so i can clutch easier lol
frosty herald
Triple health until death holy rev
naive stirrup
So what is the preference then? Thoughts on a stamina curio? I was using tripple...
me running 2 +3 stam curios
autumn vector
toughness worth
naive stirrup
def not toughness regen though, apparently that only affects coherency regen speed
autumn vector
Ive had rarther sour luck on getting a single +3 stam curio
solar mountain
the 5% most definitely is
autumn vector
toghenss regen is poo for sure
bitter anvil
i finally gave my zealot the plasma gun @sullen forge
full nebula
ive been putting stamina regen on my curios mostly
solar mountain
toughness that is* not coherency toughness
surreal shore
I am so fucking pissed off man
frosty herald
I dont think the health is worth
You can play like a madman with 3 health
naive stirrup
im already running all 3 +12% stam regen and sprint eff
surreal shore
Rather than give us the cool two handed chainaxe which it's model ALREADY IN THE GAME we getting power cycler 2.0
autumn vector
You can play like a madman with 3 health
I did that on ogyrn for a bit to troll people when the dropped medkits. fun times
autumn vector
im already running all 3 +12% stam regen and sprint eff
So you're basically sonic all the time
grizzled aspen
Rather than give us the cool two handed chainaxe which it's model ALREADY IN THE...
2h power swords are already in the game, too.
surreal shore
Who wields it?
naive stirrup
So you're basically sonic all the time
i mean im a zealot main so yes
surreal shore
Cuz all maulers already have two handed chainaxe
frosty herald
Zealot
grizzled aspen
You can literally see one of them in the bundle of weapons in the patch screen.
grizzled aspen
It has this little red thingy at the start of the blade.
grizzled aspen
Those are the force swords but they, too, exist already.
surreal shore
Yeah but i hate it
grizzled aspen
Anywho, point here is, the weapons they're adding already exist.
surreal shore
Give me maulers two handed chainaxe for God sake
naive stirrup
they're usable already via the weapon customization mod
the handles
not the actual weapons
autumn vector
So I understand what you mean and I even made a reddit post on weapons our enemy's have back in the day back when I actually visited that website (shudder) so I get it.
frosty herald
Those are the force swords but they, too, exist already.
These are both clad
Power and force
undone pewter
They're the force sword marks I thought
naive stirrup
So I understand what you mean and I even made a reddit post on weapons our enemy...
i use reddit exclusively to see how deranged people on there are these days. just the darktide sub
grizzled aspen
These are both clad
They both have force sword packs on them, though, no?
autumn vector
i use reddit exclusively to see how deranged people on there are these days. jus...
The legitment D4 isn't overpowerd thread
Made my brain
do weird things
and question reality
naive stirrup
and worship tanner 
grizzled aspen
not the actual weapons
Weapon customization allows you to use the whole 2h power sword setup on either a power sword or force sword, if you want.
Blade and all.
frosty herald
They both have force sword packs on them, though, no?
Im like 90% sure left is power right is force
spare talon
The legitment D4 isn't overpowerd thread
there was a tac axe is too OP thread
naive stirrup
Weapon customization allows you to use the whole 2h power sword setup on either ...
ye
grizzled aspen
Im like 90% sure left is power right is force
Im like 99% sure that's both force sword models though.
Because power sword packs don't look like that.
That's a force sword pack on both of them.
autumn vector
there was a tac axe is too OP thread
frosty herald
Power sword
grizzled aspen
Also because I've seen the models for the 2h power swords via weapon customization.
grizzled aspen
Power sword
Yeah that's neither one of the sword in the sc.
grizzled aspen
Or the models have been updated
I doubt it.
grizzled aspen
Why would you change the model of something that already exists and functions fine?
undone pewter
If there is a power sword rework I wonder what power cycler will do now
bitter anvil
so the update on the mod come with scroll, and here's your wish
frosty herald
Probably reduce heat gain
naive stirrup
psword should do the sm2 thing and have unpowered light only attacks and powered heavy only attacks
but remove the limit on powered
make it a toggle and call it a fucking day
frosty herald
Thats something skele wanted for base powersword
But i guess greatsword got the mode
naive stirrup
i mean if they're doing it for that they migh rework psword the same way
and cycler would just be removed or changed to increase cleave or some shit
acoustic dune
and cycler would just be removed or changed to increase cleave or some shit
Cycler to thunder hammer
PREASE GUVE THE THAMMER TO THE PSYCHER
naive stirrup
a force hammer would be funny
acoustic dune
I WANNA SEE EVIL
bitter anvil
what ya think this one on veteran?
bitter anvil
so the update on the mod come with scroll, and here's your wish
i also gave crusher to vet too
acoustic dune
i also gave crusher to vet too
Give it to the psycher
I wanna see how op that would be
bitter anvil
a force hammer would be funny
i think this one fine
acoustic dune
i think this one fine
Evil build is the scier smth smth
bitter anvil
I wanna see how op that would be
brazen umbra
Gut instinct to for those lights hurts lol. Either way with any stacks of marytrdom 2 charged lights kill
bitter anvil
acoustic dune
Gut instinct to for those lights hurts lol. Either way with any stacks of marytr...
Aiming with the bolter?
Just mag dump it
bitter anvil
hmmmm...
jagged cradle
I’m thinking I just run agri revo with psword
naive stirrup
HoboWithAGun
brazen umbra
its crazy easy to get a literally perfect weapon now
acoustic dune
I’m thinking I just run agri revo with psword
Agri shotty is best shotty
You have make it a sniper
jagged cradle
When did I say shotgun
naive stirrup
agri revolver
acoustic dune
i mean yeah i had to empower it but still
1.5k diamentes
naive stirrup
not shotgun
acoustic dune
God bless the new gambles
bitter anvil
when psyker with boltgun 😄
autumn vector
Now ive come full circle and found a vid that said uncanny strike is bad on d4. Tested it. That guys delusional. JFC why am i doing this to myself stop looking at fucking yt videos holy fuck you know better this is warframe all overagin where NO ONE and their fucking dog know how to build things.
ornate bone
Cavalcade scrier's gaze
I'mma be honest, I actually didn't really feel much of a difference when switching from uncanny to agile
naive stirrup
Now ive come full circle and found a vid that said uncanny strike is bad on d4. ...
i know at least one yt video on darktide that is 100% tested, object fact
and it's like 2 minutes long and something i spent way too long recording
frosty herald
i think this one fine
bros secretly playing rogue trader in first person
undone pewter
Someone here has to start a youtube channel for darktide content
bitter anvil
bros secretly playing rogue trader in first person
like the psyker with thammer?
:)
frosty herald
yes lmao
grizzled aspen
Listen, melee psyker in RT is more than viable.
Favorite build because it's busted as hell.
Especially because after a certain point you can just point blank people with a literal death ray from hell.
Instantly killing them and anybody unfortunate enough to be behind them.
frosty herald
i should do pyromancer executioner
grizzled aspen
Ngl executioner isn't very good.
grizzled aspen
Pyromancer should start as Warrior for Endure and then go Arch Militant for Wildfire.
grizzled aspen
bro does not want to oneshot bosses with 50 bleed stacks
I dont need to.
I can just oneshot it outright.
frosty herald
burn bleed is funny tho
grizzled aspen
It's even funnier to bore a hole directly through a corrupted arch magos.
Because fuck that guy and his fire resistance.
bitter anvil
full nebula
dats cheatin
bitter anvil
bright lagoon
so will the new power sword have an activation like vet PS or is it something else? overheat mechanic makes it sound like its activate once and it stays activated until overheat
vast basin
Why are you asking as if we know
frosty herald
you will explode into 300 million pieces
bright lagoon
Why are you asking as if we know
thats fucked up bro im just asking a question its called speculation
autumn vector
Me be testing lots of boltor. So versa unyielding, Pinning/Shattering and Puncture/Shatter seem pretty good. Thoughts on what blessing. I'm leaning toward the puncture/shatter because bleeds are good on bosses and i cant always hit the little weakspot on the back. Thoughts?
frosty herald
puncture shattering is the most common combo
vast basin
Pointless speculation is pointless 
bright lagoon
Pointless speculation is pointless <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
name checks out
solar gorge
mf hates fun
frosty herald
when you overheat the weapon locks the activation until it cools down
solar gorge
this is general 2, let the schizo posts flow
frosty herald
its a mode based weapon
autumn vector
so will the new power sword have an activation like vet PS or is it something el...
Plasma vet 2.0. Cant wait to ahve the vet who dies cause both their weapons are overheated.
Also given the weight of both weapons, cant wait for them to be slower than the pickaxe ogryn
no stamina 50% sprint speed
gonna be slugish with either weapon
frosty herald
i dont mind greatsword being sluggish
frosty herald
i main thuner hammer i know how to play around it
autumn vector
i just know what pugs will look like
frosty herald
its fast weapons i struggle with cause there is no horde stalling or fast hordekills
autumn vector
best part about greatsword is vet might actually swap to their melee when the horde comes
autumn vector
oh they dont get one?
solar gorge
ogryn gets a dmr
autumn vector
Thats terribly sad
solar gorge
sniper monkey
autumn vector
Im really broken up inside
bitter anvil
ogryn with boltgun
autumn vector
I figured they would get one
frosty herald
strawhat said that vet having no new weapon would be explained in the weapon devblog
so im thinking vet gets a new powersword mark or existing powersword is reworked with the new heat mechanic
solar gorge
I figured they would get one
it's just a heavy stubber variant not really a bolt weapon
autumn vector
fuck vet chat is going to mald
frosty herald
well probably see the weapon devblog next week
autumn vector
Did they say anything anywhere about a balance pass on existing weapons or other weapons in the update ? Blog post only mentioned the 3 new familys the new diff and some pennaces from what I can see.
frosty herald
Nope
autumn vector
Oh well. happy to have this much.
frosty herald
yeah the dude in the trailer is the havoc set
no reason why they wouldnt show him so prominently
stable cypress
shouts blend with lasgun fire
umbral kindle
[SHOUTS BLEND WITH LASGUN FIRE]
clever swan
it's true
grizzled aspen
Did they say anything anywhere about a balance pass on existing weapons or other...
If anything like that comes to pass, it will likely be dropped a few days before the update drops.
naive stirrup
load into auric damn mutated horrors
vet joins
detonates a barrel on me
shoots 2 flamer packs when im right next to them
ignores gunners in place of chaff
fuckin loser
bitter anvil
just another day on Tertium
naive stirrup
yerp
elfin steppe
DT players are not very toxic, usually.
Though I've heard people just shouting at each other on mic, but this only happened when I was still in NA servers.
grizzled aspen
load into auric damn mutated horrors
vet joins
detonates a barrel on me
shoots 2...
It's funny to kill your teammates though.
frosty herald
was it a recon vet
grizzled aspen
I bet it was.
brazen umbra
Also because I've seen the models for the 2h power swords via weapon customizati...
Pics?
nimble fiber
bitter anvil
i think this is the one
elfin steppe
i think this is the one
This looks like the force sword
grizzled aspen
Consistent 3 or 4 shot kills on crushers from any distance, depending on whether or not you want to wait on bleed to finish them.
And 4 bullets hits your 16 stack cap for puncture, which you can easily dump into a boss and go do other things.
bitter anvil
i mod this on regular power sword
grizzled aspen
Very handy if the boss isn't paying attention to you and you want to focus on other things.
grizzled aspen
Give or take, yeah.
elfin steppe
I'm using TH now so I guess that doesn't matter.
grizzled aspen
Burgles can be dealt like 60% of their hp with a duellist proc and mag dumping the pimple.
But the main thing with boltgun is crusher deletion.
elfin steppe
Usually I just take surgical one-tab specials because it's more reliable.
grizzled aspen
You can drop 4 crushers in 1 mag pretty consistently.
And, of course, bulwark racism exists.
HATE bulwarks.
grizzled aspen
They can have 7 boltgun rounds, as a treat.
elfin steppe
Just ogryn shovel
Really?
grizzled aspen
I believe you also need crunch.
full nebula
Nah, thats actually optional if you put carapace on i believe
but yeah i run it with flak maniac
grizzled aspen
Idk, I don't main ogryn.
full nebula
its good for ragers too
Crunch is good to have but it only triggers almost at the release
takes longer than thrust 3 even
grizzled aspen
Shovel 1taps are the only reason I ever run crunch.
full nebula
pmuch
naive stirrup
It's funny to kill your teammates though.
not in pubs no
naive stirrup
if they deserve it yes
grizzled aspen
Get exploded.
naive stirrup
but if they're fine then no
grizzled aspen
I find blowing up ogryns to be the best because pubgryns are typically awful players.
Like why are you running thunderous on your pickaxe bro?
bitter anvil
Like why are you running thunderous on your pickaxe bro?
@ivory drift
grizzled aspen
You can literally 1shot every armored enemy in the game.
naive stirrup
same reason im running it on my boltgun 
grizzled aspen
Shattering actually goes on boltgun though.
ivory drift
Like why are you running thunderous on your pickaxe bro?
mostly entirely for boss damage for fun
bitter anvil
that thunderous apply on unyielding is strange
grizzled aspen
mostly entirely for boss damage for fun
Interesting, but also, why?
You get bleed on every heavy anyway, just keep smacking the boss until it quits kicking.
ivory drift
actually that's exactly why
to make the bleeding and hits do more
and also make everyone else do more as a byproduct
grizzled aspen
I thought bleed had a good adm against unyielding though?
frosty herald
I just got barreled by a bot
ivory drift
539 bleed
frosty herald
Killing myself
nimble fiber
lmao
ivory drift
combining all of Soften Em Up, Pickaxe SA, Taunt damage buff, and full Headtaker stacks
grizzled aspen
You're already dealing 5k damage a whack though, just keep hitting him...
ivory drift
5k with everything mentioned, yes
placid fiber
Killing myself
Not until you are forced to play shieldgryn!
grizzled aspen
You could use thrust or torment and do even more damage.
elfin steppe
isn't brittleness only works on armour?
ivory drift
Brittleness works on monsters
grizzled aspen
It's just very niche to be using thunderous when other blessings provide comparable boss damage and deals with other things better.
grizzled aspen
isn't brittleness only works on armour?
Brittleness works on maniac, unyielding, flak, and carapace armors.
ivory drift
also this is on a Karsolas, that context matters
For the other pickaxes I fully agree with pretty much any other blessing
they don't need Brittle
placid fiber
Brittleness works on maniac, unyielding, flak, and carapace armors.
so... the exact same as rending?
grizzled aspen
Not really, I run thrust headtaker on karsolas.
bitter anvil
well, i test the thunderous w/wo it does boost damage on bosses
ivory drift
I just felt like not using thrust lol
grizzled aspen
so... the exact same as rending?
No, because rending is a buff, brittleness is a debuff.
They both affect your adms, but rending only affects yours.
elfin steppe
nvm i'm just gonna test it myself
ivory drift
I'm not sure if Thrust would be a dps increase necessarily vs bosses
grizzled aspen
Brittleness affects everyone's damage against that target.
ivory drift
which is the whole point of this idea lol
bitter anvil
the thunderous does actually increase damages on boss
ivory drift
yeah
bitter anvil
i just tested
bitter anvil
spaghetti code
grizzled aspen
*Assuming you can keep max stacks.
ivory drift
which is pretty easy
bitter anvil
just 1-2 stack
grizzled aspen
That depends entirely on your team.
bitter anvil
and the damage goes same
ivory drift
it does
but by the same token
if the fact that brittle stacks can fall off makes it bad
then by the same token Headtaker should also be considered bad
grizzled aspen
Many times have I brought a monster slaying build only to not be able to fight the monster because my teammates won't do their fuckin job and kill anything else.
Like, hey, recon vet, maybe kill the 12 gunners trying to rip me a new one?
grizzled aspen
That's literally the reason why I don't run hammer outside of pre-made teams.
ivory drift
Thammer you mean?
grizzled aspen
Yeah.
ivory drift
makes sense
grizzled aspen
I have less than optimal performance outside of monster slaying and I never get to fight the monster.
grizzled aspen
But Emperor forbid I use dclaw, now every monster wants to fight me.
ivory drift
I have less than optimal performance outside of monster slaying and I never get ...
This is where the brittle idea shines for Karsolas specifically because it's naturally adept at horde clear with Headtaker alone
grizzled aspen
Yeah but like, I can cleave 7 maulers or some obscene number with thrust as well.
ivory drift
And that's still a perfectly fair way to play lol
There's not a whole lot I can say otherwise
It's an experiment I tried out to try and patch up bigger target DPS while not being constrained to Thrust's wind up time
bitter anvil
i tested branx pickaxe a limbsplitter and thrust make 6000/+800 dmg on plague ogryn
grizzled aspen
I'm just saying I don't understand why you would trade the ability to cleave an obscene amount of hitmass and reliably hit oneshot bps for a slightly better amount of boss dps.
ivory drift
It'd be minor reasons at that point
Like the aforementioned not having to work with Thrust's windup time
bitter anvil
headtaker and thunderous is what you run?
ivory drift
yeah
ivory drift
don't use it on branx
bitter anvil
ehh i use for crusher killing
ivory drift
Branx gets more out of Thrust for Crusher killing anyway
bitter anvil
i don't have high tier blessing since my mastery pick is 12
ivory drift
Thunderous is only really worth considering on Karsolas
bitter anvil
im stuck with this karsolas
ivory drift
The particular build I use it for is a build that kinda lacks boss damage otherwise so that also play a huge part in it
grizzled aspen
Bro just fucking aim for the face in damns.
It drops everything that isn't a mauler, mutant, or ogryn in one knife.
full nebula
Seems like more work
full nebula
but if you hit headshots they dont get stolen
they have a slight arc, all you have to do is aim slightly over the head at distance
barely
grizzled aspen
Beyond like 20m I wouldn't bother with em unless you're aiming at a sniper.
full nebula
eh i use'em for everything but snipers basically
grizzled aspen
They make short work of ragers, which is my favorite use.
elfin steppe
Snipers are only annoying when you have three useless teammates.
full nebula
Yep, you can spam them at rager packs for cheese headshots
they 1 shot most of the time
grizzled aspen
An entire 12 pack of ragers absolutely cooked by my entire stock of tknives.
grave cypress
finished up the last of my autoguns, overall, a lot more dependanble than I thought they were at first. Great if you have melee to deal with armoured targets and you just wanna wipe the floor with specials and elites
frosty herald
<@&735928989146939404>
solar gorge
ember yew
solar gorge
he got back up he's okay guys
full nebula
he'll walk it off
delicate shadow
frosty herald
I get around 40 knife kills per match
wind dagger
Snipers are only annoying when you have three useless teammates.
reason #1 why I don't play ogryn much anymore
frosty herald
384
wind dagger
every single veteran is tweaking on combat stims in melee while there a hailstorm of bullets flying at us
frosty herald
Slowly getting there
elfin steppe
Do you guys have that kind of teammate, when the mutie is smashing him on the ground and his priorities are marking the plasteel.
brazen umbra
Note that shattering impact has crazy synergy with puncture.
I asked myself why that would be recommended and thought to myself about how armor class effects bleed and burn
Yummy honestly
With the rework the most in demand resource is dolla dolla bills
elfin steppe
finished up the last of my autoguns, overall, a lot more dependanble than I thou...
I find its insane that this is a cosmetic
placid fiber
I find its insane that this is a cosmetic
did you check how it changes the lower part of the staff?
polar nexus
true dat
placid fiber
did you check how it changes the lower part of the staff?
I only ask since I have 2 skins for each staff type that just make the handle look different
polar nexus
Do you guys have that kind of teammate, when the mutie is smashing him on the gr...
priorities man
hard nexus
<@&735928989146939404>
what happened
solar gorge
what happened
random bot
hard nexus
We were missing for too long, and he needed comfort
like a lonely kid calling 911
placid fiber
Seeing people try to use the teleporter in spelunky 2 is funny, especially when they survive for more than 30 seconds
hard nexus
random bot
i shmee
placid fiber
Seeing people try to use the teleporter in spelunky 2 is funny, especially when ...
1st 10 seconds usually ends up with them dead from teleporting in a wall
frosty herald
A self promotion bot
placid fiber
They die faster than the vet shooting the horde lol
grave cypress
I find its insane that this is a cosmetic
??? what do you mean
oh right the bones
only just noticed
red pawn
planning on trying out the Mk15 Eviscerator, any tips on blessings?
rocky nacelle
planning on trying out the Mk15 Eviscerator, any tips on blessings?
rampage/shred, rampage/bloodthirsty
red pawn
okay thank you
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LOLLLLLLLLL
?
hot jolt
you wanna play?
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ah
hot jolt
so u can get more?
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still, genuinely too early in the morning for me to tell lol
rocky nacelle
i was just expecting a normal macro user vid
then I see cealot in the bottom left
hot jolt
hey good advice for " getting evidence " is stay in the game, and not talkshit then leave
brazen umbra
Brittleness works on monsters
Yes the effect is just less pronounced than on carapace
Anyone actually tried equipping the model?
What we workin with in terms of size in terms of fractional length/ character height
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hey good advice for " getting evidence " is stay in the game, and not talkshit t...
literally all I said was 'staff macro user', followed by 'ew'
hot jolt
bro is dum
rocky nacelle
brazen umbra
That's uh yeah that's the thing yes
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not really what I'd qualify as shittalking lol
rocky nacelle
That's uh yeah that's the thing yes
i know thats the thing
brazen umbra
Relic blades on the tt are two handed power swords
rocky nacelle
going by inquisitor martyr/our reject's size standards
its probably going to be a skinnier evisc
like the mk3 evisc type of weight/height but skinnier
hot jolt
ok so did u want more evidence or whatever
bc i got u
i love being recorded and posted about
its my fav
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asked because it was not evident to my dumbass whether it was legitimate quell macro or not lmao
solar gorge
what's the difference practically ?
hot jolt
asked because it was not evident to my dumbass whether it was legitimate quell m...
"is this enough evidence of using a quell cancel macro to get this nerd banned?"
yeaeh
brazen umbra
The community also asked for heavy bolters but that would be sacreligiously op
brazen umbra
The heavy stubbers seem to be what they were willing to do
placid fiber
The heavy stubbers seem to be what they were willing to do
Personally I like the Gorgon, for some reason... the Achlys is actually the most accurate when braced tho ironically
brazen umbra
Personally I like the Gorgon, for some reason... the Achlys is actually the most...
I mean the new ones
hot jolt
placid fiber
They're adding more?
brazen umbra
I thought the oggies already had heavy stubbers
But yeah apparently they're just normal stubbers
hot jolt
can we get that video of me pinned pls
rocky nacelle
finally some good soyker fashion
hot jolt
i would like this pinned pls
placid fiber
Ohhh they're adding hevy stubbers
I wonder if they'll be the same for how accurate they are overall lol
Currently in order from most to least accurate it's achlys, gorgon, krourk
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didn't feel like getting pinged every 5 minutes
brazen umbra
Id expect bolter damage and pen profile with a similar fire rate to iron sights
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¯_(ツ)_/¯
brazen umbra
Means it won't benefit from any of the gunner combat augs really
Fire rate not high enough to incinerate
Already full armor penetration basically so no huge bonus from rending
Cie la vie
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dont start dum shit
I mean, real talk
I wasn't going to
but since you're making this big of a deal of it
rocky nacelle
well that already fails cause ones a chick
sonic vessel
Scab only Maelstrom but my entire team has no armor penetrations weapons
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-4 inch supremacy
placid fiber
didn't feel like getting pinged every 5 minutes
sonic vessel
went as well as it should have
placid fiber
> Scab only Maelstrom but my entire team has no armor penetrations weapons
I mean as far as guns go? Expected. Melee? Oof.
hot jolt
but since you're making this big of a deal of it
please, tell your lawyer too.
light badge
please, tell your lawyer too.
already done, you're being served the divorce papers on Friday
sonic vessel
I mean as far as guns go? Expected. Melee? Oof.
Oh they had good melee, but for some reason, they thought light hit from dual sword was the way to go
placid fiber
A lot of the armor pen guns aren't super great for ammo efficiency when there are no ammo drops
brazen umbra
planning on trying out the Mk15 Eviscerator, any tips on blessings?
Unless they changed it the newer one is comically bad
placid fiber
or when there isn't an ammo aura vet <.<
sonic vessel
the zealot had the tactical axe but used it like a drunk madman, barely hitting one of two hits
hot jolt
already done, you're being served the divorce papers on Friday
you should check the reddit, youll find an army of people like you who want me banned, ur not special 🙂
go truama bond with them over me
placid fiber
the zealot had the tactical axe but used it like a drunk madman, barely hitting ...
So they used it like I use the knife(Still learning how to aim and use it lol)
sonic vessel
I genuinely dont think I saw any of them used a heavy attack
spammed light hits on crushers and prayed
rocky nacelle
to be fair
i light spam crushers to death
with a mk7
its kind of the weapon's existence
rocky nacelle
funny cause i was here to watch that go down
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what happened <:cynwuh:1188406646045675520>
rocky nacelle
(it lasted about 2 minutes)
solar gorge
vigilantism and mod user cope
red pawn
Unless they changed it the newer one is comically bad
i got no clue which is new
hard nexus
funny cause i was here to watch that go down
then what happened !
rocky nacelle
lmfao thats why i said that
hard nexus
cyra is an m1 macro user?
hard nexus
so i can not tell you
rocky nacelle
placid fiber
This is totally how you're supposed to play rogue legacy 2: Stack i-frame duration and just brute force everything
rocky nacelle
👃
placid fiber
solar gorge
cyra is an m1 macro user?
it's a mod not a macro gets ur facts straight
hard nexus
it's a mod not a macro gets ur facts straight
oh right of course sorry
rocky nacelle
it's a mod not a macro gets ur facts straight
try not to fall asleep challenge
mild yoke
Real gamers get RSI
sonic vessel
with a mk7
But you are actively dodging and aiming for the head, right ? They just stood there and waited for the smite psyker to immobilize them to start hitting them
rocky nacelle
no
placid fiber
I mean... if the enemies can't hit you for like... 4 seconds every time your hit... you can just sit next to them wailing on them right?
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@rocky nacelle I have cast off the shackles of 90 toughness
rocky nacelle
https://tenor.com/view/chuck-mc-gill-gif-23557907
me when my surge macro shocks me awake
to remember i have to play/carry
sonic vessel
I mean... if the enemies can't hit you for like... 4 seconds every time your hit...
If the psyker was talented, sure, but even then, it's a lack of damage to wait for them to wipe out the palpatine skill
plain dragon
I hate that VoC is an instant win button that overheals, fully restores toughnesses, revives fallen allies, and staggers enemies with a single button press
But Chorus takes 10 seconds to cast, restores toughness incrementally, and borderline incapacitates the Zealot
twin wagon
wind dagger
I hate that VoC is an instant win button that overheals, fully restores toughnes...
got griefed by a barrel last night and watched a voc veteran go through a histg for like almost ten minutes without dodging a single time
he took no damage during that period
solar gorge
fair and balanced
placid fiber
This is totally how you're supposed to play rogue legacy 2: Stack i-frame durati...
@sonic vessel I was referring to this, but, you're right... without enhanced smite... you're just hurting yourself
I am not a believer in enhanced smite... I just know it is an option that can work...
rocky nacelle
<@139852743358545920>
my gunker being tougher
when its 0 defenses
is something else
plain dragon
got griefed by a barrel last night and watched a voc veteran go through a histg ...
Poor oppressed veterans
rocky nacelle
though i guess you are stamina maxxed
wind dagger
everything that isn't a bullet/projectile goes thru walls
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I'm aware
rocky nacelle
its what you get for having the lesser soyker voice anyway
rocky nacelle
true asf
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man I gotta stop playing this game early in the morning
solar gorge
that's also what allows you to cheese things thru doors
rocky nacelle
man I gotta stop playing this game early in the morning
rocky nacelle
that's also what allows you to cheese things thru doors
thanks for the reminder
solar gorge
or walls
rocky nacelle
how many times ive seen a poor innocent noob soyker
get clipped in the absolute corner
of a door frame
by a pancake
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https://tenor.com/view/rise-and-shine-gif-24754829
aye aye capn
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@rocky nacelle load faster grahhh
rocky nacelle
is still stormvermin overhead
only played darktide
find a comparison for me
(it doesnt have to be compared to darktide)
solar gorge
imagine crusher overhead but not slow af
solar gorge
faster than mauler
rocky nacelle
faster than a mauler
solar gorge
it's still avoidable
solar gorge
i'd say it's the fastest overhead elite move in all tide games
rocky nacelle
i'd say it's the fastest overhead elite move in all tide games
what if scarecrow ass gas (burgle blessing) made elites faster on top of no stagger res
stormvermin overhead 2.0
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@rocky nacelle load faster cutie peak is on the board
solar gorge
sounds crazy
it's not that crazy
rocky nacelle
i just wanna see it
rocky nacelle
ive heard of this choco champion
hot jolt
cyra is an m1 macro user?
bro posted a video of me playing asking if he has enough evidence to get me banned,
another day in zealot class tbh.
solar gorge
actually, bestigor overhead might be faster than stormvermin's
rocky nacelle
waiting for vermintide 3
well actually
with that VT2 sale
game probably has more bodies than ever
hot jolt
cyra fuckin smells then
i smell good bro come sniff
rocky nacelle
solar gorge
with that VT2 sale
very good game
solar gorge
but you'll feel the lack of movement compared to dt
instantly
tank control
comparatively
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VT2 physically hurts me with how bad I am at it
rocky nacelle
is collectors upgrade worth (besides the fact its 1 dollar)
or is there actual important dlc i should get if i plan onplaying
solar gorge
yeah
most important dlc is the worst one
winds of magic
so you can play the hardest diff
(you can't without it)
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(you can't without it)
imagine if Auric was paywalled
solar gorge
absolute dogshit
solar gorge
if fs had the vermintide mindset, havoc would've been a 15 bucks dlc
rocky nacelle
it only had like 2 actual worthwhile DLCs
rocky nacelle
if fs had the vermintide mindset, havoc would've been a 15 bucks dlc
no one gonna talk about this tho
we just gonna bitch darktide sucks
: )
mystic ether
Would personally just secure the content you actively want and if you got friends you can play with that have it, play with them. You get access to whatever other content they have minus chaos wastes which is free.
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if fs had the vermintide mindset, havoc would've been a 15 bucks dlc
would much rather the cash slop than this
storm elm
Gm
Is the Power Greatsword still real or was that a dream
solar gorge
cash slop unironically saved dt's content addition method
rocky nacelle
cash slop unironically saved dt's content addition method
this comment would kill dorn if he was still here
rocky nacelle
he always talks about cash shop doesnt make as much as it should
or how much as it's planned to make
solar gorge
i mean that's true
solar gorge
but it's a better business model in theory than locking a diff behind a dlc
or anything content related
they should really just lock in and make better slop that's the only issue
rocky nacelle
fact
solar gorge
vt2 also has modded diff
and modded realms, so you can play online modded easy
so when cataclysm gets too easy
you have a way up
rocky nacelle
when the smiteker traps 30 ragers in a hallway
ah if only we had something to kill them rn
rough
solar gorge
lvl 40 havoc unlocks friendly fire
rocky nacelle
that should be lvl 10
39 levels of havoc and finally turning on friendly fire is diabolical work though i like it
solar gorge
if only it was the case
rocky nacelle
imagine
level 25 havoc
stormvermin mauler overhead speed now
alright good first load in stutters are over
nothing is worse than a shitty loading screen into
loading into no sound + lag
rocky nacelle
and trying to dodge a sniper
rocky nacelle
<@139852743358545920> corruption resist is going back on
when the smiteker traps 30 ragers and 2 crushers in a hallway
im outta here
frosty herald
The shroud backstab penance will be something
hard nexus
39 levels of havoc and finally turning on friendly fire is diabolical work thoug...
(it doesn’t tell us it turns on friendly fire)
hard nexus
ogryn saying gg and then dropping frag bomb in the middle of the team
rocky nacelle
(it doesn’t tell us it turns on friendly fire)
this is why i'll let someone else experience it b4 me aka im going to be on the sidelines and if someone catches a stray and downs
ill know
winged vessel
39 levels of havoc and finally turning on friendly fire is diabolical work thoug...
Psyker finna be removed from the game if FF comes on
hard nexus
idk if mk3 evis will be able to make it through havoc…