to a REAL MAN
#zealot-class
grand tangle
gusty orbit
@copper hawk thanks for the builds, I'll put some thought into them and see what'll suit me best
zinc talon
plain dragon
Devil's swords are better parrying weapons because they're more solidly constructed. Those sabers could duel each other but trying to parry a machete with a saber is asking to crack your weapon
elfin steppe
https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-40k-darktide-warhammer-40k-darktide-gif-126...
what's this
zinc talon
Dorktard
plain dragon
Darktide pre release trailers
zinc talon
lil chopped up gifs of the hype movies before release
lean fern
Devil's swords are better parrying weapons because they're more solidly construc...
what
no
lmfao
grand tangle
Devil's swords are better parrying weapons because they're more solidly construc...
lol
zinc talon
grand tangle
rapiers are heavier than they look
lunar fable
I just helped my friends who are new to the game with a heresy mission
Prob the most fun I've had in a while
lean fern
the ds is not a rapier
zinc talon
plain dragon
rapiers are heavier than they look
I'm aware. I have fenced before (never got good at it)
Never felt comfortable with the idea of parrying something heavier than another foil.
zinc talon
this is why I think lights out was the intended way to play originally
full nebula
@lunar fable yes good bring them in deep so they can't escape us
zinc talon
maybe not that dark, but still dark dark
bitter anvil
https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-40k-darktide-warhammer-40k-darktide-gif-139...
Poor dude flashlight still flickering
zinc talon
lights out routinely scares the shit out of me
fleet zealot
important video
lean fern
its not like dark is in the name of the game
zinc talon
like yelp out loud body horror death
full nebula
darktide lights out aren't as bad as the dark missions in vt2
elfin steppe
We can finally make vets envy. big ass two-handed power sword
blissful frigate
lights out routinely scares the shit out of me
You wanna know what scares me?
zinc talon
and it's the only mission type I still can routinely lose as often as I win
grand tangle
I'm aware. I have fenced before (never got good at it)
Never felt comfortable w...
well obviously foils aren't stiff enough to deflect anything other than another foil, thats kinda the point of them its part of why they are safe
fleet zealot
this is why I think lights out was the intended way to play originally
it's just not good for playerbase health, darktide would have to be like gtfo and revolved around it
grand tangle
actual swords are either very stiff, or springy but still stiff
zinc talon
yeah gtfo is a home run on that front
plain dragon
I wish Heavy Swords had parry tbh
fleet zealot
i do want a
full nebula
in vt2 in some areas you have to have a torch, literally the only thing you can see is slight artifacting from light, and rats eyeballs lmao
fleet zealot
darktide VR spinoff
zinc talon
I got the game, spent thirty minutes absolutely glued to it, died horribly, and nope'd right the fuck out for my mental health
fleet zealot
called Darktide: Wyrmwood
bitter anvil
yeah gtfo is a home run on that front
Scary thing in gtfo is the immortal
candid shuttle
I ACCIDENTALLY JOINED DAMNATION 😭😭😭
bitter anvil
How it is?
spare talon
I ACCIDENTALLY JOINED DAMNATION 😭😭😭
trial by fire
full nebula
@candid shuttle buckle down and stick with the squad
candid shuttle
No we lost
fleet zealot
where you play as a lone wyrmwood agent behind enemy lines, focusing on stealth, information gathering and problem solving
full nebula
rekt
bitter anvil
gg
zinc talon
does it still have a janky quickplay system? a lot of the reviews when I got it were saying you couldn't do the missions alone and it was tough finding and filling out the team slots
plain dragon
in vt2 in some areas you have to have a torch, literally the only thing you can ...
Props to the Ubersreik 5 for not yet realizing you can hold a torch in one hand and a weapon in the other it makes for really tense segments
elfin steppe
I ACCIDENTALLY JOINED DAMNATION 😭😭😭
You should play this diff regularly now since Havoc is coming.
full nebula
Just beat them with the torch, easy solution
candid shuttle
I accidentally clicked one too many times and ended up in damnation and not heresy
plain dragon
Or like.. Lanterns
grand tangle
i want a darktide gamemode that's a pitched battle between loyal moebians and traitor forces
grand tangle
i want a 'hold the line' wave defense gamemode in darktide
plain dragon
The U5 do like zero preparation for any mission whatsoever
zinc talon
it's a shame they kinda backed off of that except for absolute pitch black let's not give a flashlight to the ogryn ever cuz fuckem
bitter anvil
Okri you played gtfo ever?
zinc talon
a couple missions, yeah
full nebula
Eh, depending on the career it makes sense because they're basically fucking demigods
zinc talon
not long at all
bitter anvil
I only made on 2 level
grand tangle
it's a shame they kinda backed off of that except for absolute pitch black let's...
new ogryn weapon will have a flashlight tho
finally
full nebula
Again powerscaling
full nebula
Fatshark doesnt know how
plain dragon
"should we bring lanterns and medical supplies to this skaven infested vampire castle?"
"no kruber you're a fucking idiot just grab a weapon and go."
bitter anvil
I can’t delve deeper since more enemy sound creepier deeper I go like immortal sound pain to deal with in gtfo
plain dragon
Eh, depending on the career it makes sense because they're basically fucking dem...
None of them have darkvision and all of them are insistent on never bringing lights with them
bitter anvil
Mother and babies eeeggh freak me out
zinc talon
the original reason I even got weapon customizations mod in the first place was to put a flashlight on my grenade gauntlet
full nebula
Yeah but they're still all pretty stout for who they are
zinc talon
then I'd go do lights out missions and challenge myself to use only the gauntlet the whole run
one-weapon it
bitter anvil
You lose the explosive punch tho
zinc talon
you can see when you boom and see when you bonk
plain dragon
One day a member of the U5 will canonically die from tripping and falling off a cliff because they can't fucking see
zinc talon
but you sacrifice block and alt attack
full nebula
GTFO looks interesting, but I know its not what I like because I want gunplay ect
Moreso tryna avoid the conflict
Tactical
zinc talon
yeah gtfo is absolutely whisper quiet
bitter anvil
Is about stealthing
bitter anvil
I like carry long range flash light
zinc talon
which, fuckin weird game
plain dragon
I wish Fatshark played up the body horror in Darktide
bitter anvil
But hell i read wiki about red (blood) door about the invisible enemies
plain dragon
The Infected 21st and Blessed Poxwalkers are so good
full nebula
Got a bit of that with the mutated guys
plain dragon
I don't want them to go
full nebula
The dregs are pretty nasty looking up close
zinc talon
The Infected 21st and Blessed Poxwalkers are so good
ive been running a ton of those the last week or two, they're a ton of fun
just spicy enough
plain dragon
The dregs are pretty nasty looking up close
The problem is I am never allowed to take a close look at them
zinc talon
oh yall should know nonauric infected missions do not include the dog packs, just the slugs
full nebula
Thats just nature of the game
Have to go lower difficulty and block attacks repeatedly
lol
zinc talon
aurics have dogpacks and slugs, nonaurics only have slugs
plain dragon
The cronenburging has to be overt because I really am stopping just long enough to chainsaw you and moving on
elfin steppe
I think bro's gun could use some improvement
bitter anvil
Low mastery level
candid shuttle
I'm gonna start grinding dockets for my zealot bolter
zinc talon
The problem is I am never allowed to take a close look at them
there is so much crazy detailed in archivum sycorax but I didn't even start noticing it until like the tenth run
plain dragon
aurics have dogpacks and slugs, nonaurics only have slugs
Auric blessed poxer missions have hunting grounds??
full nebula
@elfin steppe difficulty?
elfin steppe
5
zinc talon
auric infested 21st missions have slugs on a two or three minute timer and dogpacks in addition to the regular hordes
plain dragon
Fatshark's level design team knocks it out of the park every time and I wish I got to appreciate them more
elfin steppe
damnation
bitter anvil
zinc talon
nonauric infested 21st missions only have slugs on that same quick timer
full nebula
If thats auric then sure why tf you bring that shit. But on normal board you can pretty much use a broken stick and be fine
plain dragon
I do love fighting Slugs
bitter anvil
Burgle?
plain dragon
I think bro's gun could use some improvement
Straight ass I'm afraid
zinc talon
Fatshark's level design team knocks it out of the park every time and I wish I g...
I feel like they've only gotten better at it too, every publish from vt2's first dlc map to darktide's most recent
bitter anvil
Think so yeah
As ogryn last round I lit up fire on the slug back of their back with my ripper and PBB ability
full nebula
@plain dragon Get true solo mod and play the lowest difficulty, the bots can pratically carry. Plenty of time to walk around and look
I guess you can turn them off too prob
bitter anvil
As ogryn last round I lit up fire on the slug back of their back with my ripper ...
Quite okay or good damaging
zinc talon
these missions have dialed back every one of the frustrations I have about slugs, cuz they spawn so often every mission that if you don't just shut up and fight them the only alternative is ragequitting the mission type cuz slugs gawd
zinc talon
I've seen some real nuance in em fighting em so much lately
full nebula
Idk, I don't have any particular issues with any enemies in this game. Even the tox bombers are slightly annoying, but you just walk the other direction.
zinc talon
likehow they'll eat enemy heretics if they're blocked by too many in the way
bitter anvil
Idk, I don't have any particular issues with any enemies in this game. Even the ...
Tox gas modifier 
zinc talon
they'll just start chomping em down every couple seconds til they make a path
they also have some wierd belly flop animation I haven't seen before
full nebula
@bitter anvil You can dodge the puke. You just wait for the tracking, they stop, once you see it just dodge and it'll miss.
bitter anvil
I played a psyker and I get surround using my ds 4
full nebula
Yep
zinc talon
it comes out like flamer fire too, and more slowly but still quick
bitter anvil
<@460659385803210764> You can dodge the puke. You just wait for the tracking, th...
No like there’s scenarios getting cornered. And specialist flamer just there block the path with fire
zinc talon
if you wait for them to puke where they're...standing? you'll sidestep far enough before it gets to you
bitter anvil
Getting vomited
zinc talon
it's so instantly emasculating
full nebula
That can happen, but you should also always consider your positioning, regardless of where your team is
zinc talon
also a couple things to the slug's back will make him cough up squaddies they've eaten
ogryn rocks for one
full nebula
Neat
zinc talon
I'm drawing a blank on the zealot stuff that will
full nebula
Gotta love detail oriented fatshark that misses on the most obvious shit
opaque island
I'm drawing a blank on the zealot stuff that will
a big enough bonk
bitter anvil
I trying to climb the platform but shit visual effect vomit blocking me
Like hard to see
Same shit like bile troll
full nebula
Hold c when trying to mantle, helps a lot
zinc talon
there're stages of it depending on how soaked you get
bitter anvil
I remembered
full nebula
Yeah
zinc talon
at the max stack you can hardly move
oh and, being puked on, and standing on puke, slows you even further
full nebula
If you get puked multiple times it stacks and slows you down even more
zinc talon
don't be on puke when you're in puke, or uh however that maths in your head
bitter anvil
There’s no way to avoiding puke when the fire blocking it
Goddamn a scab bomber or flamer
full nebula
See thats situations where I like assail too, bodyblocked by horde. Let it fly and hopefully gtfo of the corner
bitter anvil
Like I try find tiniest clean spot avoid the puke ground
zinc talon
you can bypass 90% of all of these difficulties if you decide to chad the fuck up and run corruption aura in these missions
now's a great time to test the water on it doing so many slug runs
full nebula
i did
bitter anvil
I was a psyker
bitter anvil
Yeah I have stamina regen iirc
zinc talon
yep, it's more a for the team for the emperor thing
zinc talon
I run a self challenge where I try to make sure not a single squaddie takes a full wound in corruption by the end of the map because I'm on the ball enough with my healing
bitter anvil
My ds sword like can’t handle horde i want use smite but I fear I’ll get discriminate from it
zinc talon
that aura also completely cheezes the twins fight, do with that what you will
bitter anvil
Yeh
full nebula
if you have smite definitely use it
zinc talon
naw
full nebula
But if you're using ds4, just spam light attacks and mix in some pushblock attacks
zinc talon
I've run smite since careers published and I haven't once had someone get after me
it's just a meme
full nebula
and itll clear pretty well
zinc talon
smite with empowered psionics can singlehandely mulch hordes
full nebula
The problem with smite is people try to use it as a primary weapon, then expect the team to come kill every single group while they hold.
bitter anvil
But if you're using ds4, just spam light attacks and mix in some pushblock attac...
Yeah that’s what i did. Just too many of them there shooter mixed too
copper hawk
it has good emeowjis..
full nebula
Thats not what its for
zinc talon
I'll get my build for ya rq
copper hawk
<@576701404475949056> thanks for the builds, I'll put some thought into them and...
have fun !!,
full nebula
@bitter anvil if you run assail with scriers gaze, you can pop it and toss those out in an emergency. They'll punch through tons of trash, gunners, ragers.
zinc talon
so if you bubble a slug and keep it stomping in melee so it doesn't go anywhere it's completely harmless
visual stream
The problem with smite is people try to use it as a primary weapon, then expect ...
Remembering this one guy who got angry on voice chat that I didn't kill the one rager he was smiting even though I killed the ten before that 
frozen kernel
<@460659385803210764> if you run assail with scriers gaze, you can pop it and to...
This is how I gazer lol
zinc talon
bitter anvil
<@460659385803210764> if you run assail with scriers gaze, you can pop it and to...
Is depend loadout I use. I have assail from melee psyker. Last run is EK and smite (just to be electro man)
frozen kernel
It’s so much fun
zinc talon
^I don't get top damage every time, but I'm always second or third
frozen kernel
FS with exorcist to offset the peril while your assails charge back up for more ragers/specials
zinc talon
melee's more a your choice thing
I'm enjoying the shock maul cuz it synergizes with the heavy hit electrocute talent
heavy hit, lay both electrocutes, then shock em
full nebula
@visual stream People like that can only learn the hard way. Chances are he was console too, having an open mic.
zinc talon
and you shock em for like, double damage little less
that build is fantastic for the 21st missions, the bubble for slugs, smite with empowered for hordes and dogpacks
voidstrike for cleave killing at range
full nebula
I can't remember, did they say the 21st modifier was coming back?
zinc talon
oh whoops, am I using the wrong name
bitter anvil
Oh I ran ds sword uncanny strike just to stab crusher and mauler problem. I know I got ek I could take it out but EK deal single target can’t do multiple.
spare talon
I can't remember, did they say the 21st modifier was coming back?
in havoc
full nebula
I thought so
bitter anvil
Eh I play regular damnation :/
full nebula
I'll have to get that krak penace done finally
zinc talon
they're more my speed too if I'm not Squadded Up
spare talon
havoc having mutated horrors 21st moebian 3VEG
(the team will die in 2.5 minutes)
zinc talon
that psucker build allowed me to not have to sacrifice boss damage for horde clear for area cc in the auric mutated horrors
full nebula
I was thinking the otherday, if we're killing a couple thousand dudes in an auric. How many kills are we gonna get in havoc? Or do you think the elite density is just gonna be off the charts to compensate
zinc talon
I stopped playing vt2 before chaos wastes and all that came out, how long would those missions run
bitter anvil
I was thinking the otherday, if we're killing a couple thousand dudes in an auri...
More ‘eretic as more death they have
spare talon
I was thinking the otherday, if we're killing a couple thousand dudes in an auri...
Each Order Level will incrementally increase in difficulty, with increasing negative modifiers and varying mutators
full nebula
Like 90 minutes if you're doing legend something.
zinc talon
wuuf
bitter anvil
> Each Order Level will incrementally increase in difficulty, with increasing ne...
Crimespree payday 2
zinc talon
well that's triple the usual average mission time, and higher densities too
I'd bet 4 to 5
4.something
full nebula
Well, CW is a little different, because you're basically doing 5-6 full missions b2b
bitter anvil
Probably last for 2-3 round squad with random player in discord maybe
On damnation yeah
frozen kernel
As much as I love DT’s individual missions I would love a proper campaign style set
bitter anvil
Yea
frozen kernel
Whichever set contains Hab Dreyko becomes Darktide’s Blood Harvest
modern lintel
me getting off a pvp after knowing i just ruined someones day
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1207146825619083316/1304603856734388344/happy-steam_1.gif?ex=672ffe85&is=672ead05&hm=af726b7a88d87eb5263fd62e7a5b6284cf37fefa831fea46611b33936f6a7cce&
visual stream
I hate Until Death
elfin steppe
Idk, I don't have any particular issues with any enemies in this game. Even the ...
You will realize they can become quite annoying if the director spawns more than two of any specials in a horde fight.
I wish the relic blade can finally solve rager tide problem.
spare talon
i wonder when people will learn that every melee was designed with a solution to ragers
fleet zealot
full nebula
Its definitely hard with some weapons, but some weapons can stun them easily like the knife punch, or the special on the duelling sword.
full nebula
They're not even bad imo
spare talon
heavy attacks on the taxe can stagger ragers AND they have a high stagger special
fleet zealot
Yes taxe has weirdly high stagger
plush estuary
@copper hawk heavy sword questions
elfin steppe
no. Evi is just bad against ragers.
elfin steppe
I can't speak for other melee weapons because I've not touched any other melee weapon for ages.
spare talon
which would explain why you think ragers are a problem rn
hallow summit
the one with downward lights with maniac perk isnt awful against ragers
but you gotta like build it for it and thats a big no for me dog
spare talon
i can currently shit on everything in the game with the weapon most people think is absolute dogshit
the tactical axe
hallow summit
taxe is so mid its not bad but its just kinda ok to me
rocky nacelle
i can currently shit on everything in the game with the weapon most people think...
thats not shredder auto pistol
full nebula
mk7 tac axe is a worse knife
full nebula
its not bad
sterile basalt
i wonder when people will learn that every melee was designed with a solution to...
U sure ragers as in, plural?
fleet zealot
Taxe hasn’t been truly dogshit since it got buffs
spare talon
thats not shredder auto pistol
yeah but thats not a melee
median steeple
for everyone
full nebula
Its a balanced knife even
fleet zealot
The issue is it hasn’t been buffed enough
sterile basalt
Because a lot of melee weapons don’t deal with multiple ragers well
full nebula
swap tac axe and knife damage
median steeple
NZDT is 9am for me
full nebula
good fix
elfin steppe
I'm expecting some talent rework like the other classes or buff the unpopular weapons directly.
spare talon
U sure ragers as in, plural?
then again the balancing was designed for when they didnt send 20 of them at you tbf
fleet zealot
Because why take a weapon that can stagger a mutant on a special headshot when most weapons can just oneshot mutants
hallow summit
swap tac axe and knife damage
or combat axe
sterile basalt
then again the balancing was designed for when they didnt send 20 of them at you...
Yea maybe that needs to get changed if they want to keep ragers’ spawn rate as is
Because most melee weapons can handle 1 fairly easily
hallow summit
just up it to match somewhat maybe a lil lower
spare talon
you said weapon
it was in the context of melee weapons against ragers
smh para cant read context
full nebula
make the knife into a butter knife and im still gonna use it because the movesets are fun
rocky nacelle
it was in the context of melee weapons against ragers
smh para cant read context
imagine scrolling up and reading
zealots dont do that
sterile basalt
But most melee weapons are not good vs multiple
hallow summit
LOL
hallow summit
imagine scrolling up and reading
less think more BONK
spare talon
mk7 tac axe is a worse knife
it can literally get BM
elfin steppe
then again the balancing was designed for when they didnt send 20 of them at you...
20 ragers are for the whole party, but four to six coming at you is quite frequent.
full nebula
yeah but idk still probably worse than uncanny knife if we're talking purely time to kill
idk i havent tested
full nebula
i thought we were talking about ragers lol
spare talon
that too
hallow summit
knife has better single than taxe but taxe does hordes better
elfin steppe
and I didn't count other specials and hordes. it's very easy to lose a good chunk of your health in that situation.
spare talon
kill 3+ ragers in one swing
spare talon
which needs to be killed
mystic nacelle
uncanny would be worse than precog riposte into ragers
full nebula
swap ds4 and devil claw damage and pen
sullen forge
Arguments in vet chat, love to see it
full nebula
Lol funny stuff
deft heron
I wish we had +2 Wound curios 
copper hawk
<@576701404475949056> heavy sword questions
huh wha
elfin steppe
I also especially hate that AI will swarm you in a small area very fast, because of the spawn location they added recently. and the horde has no sound cue. you have to constantly check if there is a big horde blocking your exit path already.
full nebula
Wounds actually aren't terribly useful after a certain point
full nebula
Not bad for learning, but eventually you won't need them.
sterile stone
full nebula
Unless you're running martyrdom
deft heron
Wounds actually aren't terribly useful after a certain point
Yeah, but it would let me nab 7 wounds for max martydom without investing ALL of my curios
full nebula
Thats the tradeoff for the build unfortunately
copper hawk
have you tried it on vet?>
nop
deft heron
The trade off is already "not coming online until you're at deaths door"
copper hawk
i dont rlly play vet
full nebula
if you want a little extra protection, run 5% toughness on all of your curios, and 2 gunner resists if you dont
copper hawk
still flak elite you think?
idk im not a number nerd
plush estuary
kk
analog ember
psyker who was the first one to die on the team: why don't zealots ever run beacon of purity???
full nebula
Martyrdom isn't that good, not many people use it as far as i know
plush estuary
Martyrdom isn't that good, not many people use it as far as i know
huh
rocky nacelle
vet chat in flames
plush estuary
what is this take?
rocky nacelle
kino
copper hawk
i actually have my peasant minion dictate all of what u say 2 me
full nebula
Its mediocre over bp dps crit bs?
copper hawk
like the book Flower of Chivalry
full nebula
I guess specifically for heavy evis, but i dont use it ever
rocky nacelle
gloopner gloopn
rocky nacelle
https://tenor.com/view/glubby-slug-gif-22183030
elfin steppe
Its mediocre over bp dps crit bs?
Fury definitely deals more damage on average, matyr is more about prevent burst damage and take more hits.
spare talon
Arguments in vet chat, love to see it
IM LOSING FUCKING BRAINCELLS
fathom helm
sullen forge
I need your honest opinions all of you
and mean it
is power sword on vet
actually fun
or fucking boring
Im begging of you
fathom helm
is good
spare talon
its good but boring
full nebula
Powersword is good, but it doesn't kill crushers fast enough
sullen forge
gameplay loop
spare talon
i never play more than 1 game in a row with it
haughty mirage
yes but is it boring to play
Fun to use a couple times then you gotta use something else cause it gets old fast
sullen forge
Okay im not fucking insane
Cause like I want this damn thing reworked cause I'll play it for like 2 matches realize how incredibly fucking boring it is
and never touch it for like
3 months
full nebula
the problem is being forced to activate to get any result, and thats tedious and annoying
fathom helm
https://tenor.com/view/misha%C3%ABl-lopes-cardozo-sword-sword-fight-sword-fighti...
Zealots with their new sword be like.
sullen forge
the problem is being forced to activate to get any result, and thats tedious and...
^
its a reason
but I think another huge reason is
You're forced into power cycler and BM
if you dont run it
sullen forge
you're throwing
fathom helm
I hope zealot powersword isn't a piece of shit when not activated.
sullen forge
I hope zealot powersword isn't a piece of shit when not activated.
I highly doubt it
full nebula
It should be able to clear/kill non armored shit, not saying extremely easily. But uncharged hitting shit is nearly pointless
rocky nacelle
i will be using it anyway
sullen forge
Look my biggest gripe
is this with the PS on Vet
I want it to have a reason
to be used
in an off state
spare talon
Powersword is good, but it doesn't kill crushers fast enough
the mk6 can 2 shot crusher with a push attack and a light
what are you on
fathom helm
vet PS non-powered attacks need a buff for sure.
sullen forge
That or a fucking rework
spare talon
gotta use stamina
sullen forge
I'd rather just rework to spice it up
spare talon
what
visual stream
If they straight up plagiarized the timed attack gimmick from SM2 for power sword I wouldn't mind
autumn vector
Im begging of you
Its just a bit heavy tbh. Harder for the vet to run with their dogshit 50% no stam sprint speed and just over mobility. It really is decent though, just overshadowed by the dagger/D4 movement metas everyone is screaming about.
autumn vector
I like it. Its a bit nerfed. But meh.
sullen forge
@plush estuary I WANT TO FUCKING DIE READING THE ARGUMENT PATH DECIDED TO TAKE OVER FOR ME
I WANT TO DIE
spare talon
Take a guess. what's the sprint heavy stab
wdym take a guess
plush estuary
<@665740726474375168> I WANT TO FUCKING DIE READING THE ARGUMENT PATH DECIDED TO...
Just watching this
elfin steppe
wdym take a guess
How's that gonna work?
autumn vector
is in vet chat
I enjoy fire grenades and think they are a good talent but I also like being tanky so I takes the crity nodes. XD
sullen forge
Something can be boring and still be good
sullen forge
Power Sword is a great example of this
rocky nacelle
thats called destiny 2
sullen forge
I'd rather subject myself to another week of rashad
then play a match of power sword
visual stream
thats called destiny 2
Is it even the good part though?
full nebula
actually heavy evis repeating light attacks is this
autumn vector
I dont actually like fire grenades for the record. That was a bit to much for me
spare talon
How's that gonna work?
yknow how with ogryn pickaxes you can do a unique light attack when sliding?
with the relic sword you can do do a unique stabbing attack from sprinting
autumn vector
actually heavy evis repeating light attacks is this <:KEKW_ogryn:102207718832290...
Cleave cap why you be like this.
sullen forge
yknow how with ogryn pickaxes you can do a unique light attack when sliding?
wit...
🗣️
okay its fucking peak
visual stream
Imagine if they make the sword sprint attack a continuous attack
autumn vector
err swing arc*
visual stream
That is certainly too powerful but it sounds funny
rocky nacelle
Imagine if they make the sword sprint attack a continuous attack
casually million stabs rinda
autumn vector
See that just made me want spears
now I want spears
Why you do this
Im prety sure power spears are even a thing. Maybe power glaive?
elfin steppe
yknow how with ogryn pickaxes you can do a unique light attack when sliding?
wit...
Actually I didn't know. I was expecting a jump vertical strike instead of stabbing.
full nebula
Give me a prison shank, give me a shank that I have to stab things in the head with 10 times at lightning speed to kill
autumn vector
Hell im pretty sure there is a chainspear as well
sullen forge
You know I think its funny how I'll stop engaging with them and they think they won, Look nothing is changing my mind man
Power sword is fucking boring
lmao
spare talon
Actually I didn't know. I was expecting a jump vertical strike instead of stabbi...
Sprinting Heavy stab
no idea where that idea came from
it says right there
autumn vector
Power sword is fucking boring
I cant really argue with them. Evis 15 is stupid simple, but I like it.
elfin steppe
Imagine if they make the sword sprint attack a continuous attack
Since it's a two-handed sword, I can accept the powerful single hit.
plush estuary
Power sword is fucking boring
It's subjective, I don't think there is 1 answer
It's fun for me
Since it's a new weapon I haven't mastered
sinful widget
Ive never use a psword before but next update will be the first time i use one, very cool fatshark, thank you
autumn vector
I'm def going to use a psword if they give zealot one
plush estuary
Shrimple as
autumn vector
but hopefully its the 2h
sinful widget
It is?
full nebula
I hope the new weapons are better than ds4, that would be hilarious
sullen forge
Since it's a new weapon I haven't mastered
I mean thats fine, I just genuinely strongly dislike its loop of just you press Special and spam lights and repeat
autumn vector
I hope the new weapons are better than ds4, that would be hilarious
I hope they all are better lol
sinful widget
sullen forge
Again my biggest gripe is more so the fact off state is
autumn vector
Burn themeta
elfin steppe
> Sprinting Heavy stab
no idea where that idea came from
I was hoping it would work like that
sullen forge
at all
visual stream
Since it's a two-handed sword, I can accept the powerful single hit.
Alternatively, imagine if sprint attack is the only way to hit crusher one shot without hoop jumping
autumn vector
Game needs to get like two more difficulties tho
full nebula
Fatshark school of balancing says the possiblity is there Fatshark school of balancing also says the possiblity of ds4 balancing happening the same patch is there.
elfin steppe
I mean thats fine, I just genuinely strongly dislike its loop of just you press ...
That's what this game is based on.
sinful widget
Ds4 needs to return to psyker only
rocky nacelle
Fatshark school of balancing says the possiblity is there Fatshark school of bal...
ESL moment
sullen forge
Unsure what they could really do if its minor tweaks to make off state a bit more reasonable to use over Power Cycler worship, or reworking it
full nebula
Powersword has a heavy light combo that you can do a 3 piece hit with charged, its pretty decent to switch things up
sullen forge
again im more so hopeful something along those lines happens
sinful widget
Xd
sullen forge
Heresy ready Dueling sword
sinful widget
Was gonna say the same
autumn vector
Daul D4s but nerf the normal d4 to be half as good and the dual ones to be as good
rocky nacelle
PSwords should be the new ds so people have something new to bitch about
autumn vector
No blocking
autumn vector
They need to do a wide balancing sweep on pretty much every weapon
Tbh I feel like some of the A rank or B rank weapons are alright
its just the bad outliers and good ones
rocky nacelle
it would be hilarious to see PSword be so broken that it turns into the ds4 knife fiasco convo again
elfin steppe
Alternatively, imagine if sprint attack is the only way to hit crusher one shot ...
You will look like a clown.
autumn vector
but toxic meta is fatsharks middle name
full nebula
The bad ones needa be decent and usable so theres more shit to use
smh
Ofc tons of people are still gonna use meta, buts the nature of it
visual stream
This just in, power cycler is basekit and slaughterer values doubled on psword
autumn vector
Would be nice if they buffed the dclaw and the taxes (fuck taxes) but im probably going to get memed for saying that
visual stream
Welcome back favorite child
sullen forge
it would be hilarious to see PSword be so broken that it turns into the ds4 knif...
Look I this is my subjective opinion
I genuinely think powered needs to be nerfed a bit
not extremely heavily
full nebula
They should add some unique nongun ranged weapons for the other classes
rocky nacelle
new PSwords should replace ds4 so people call ds4 not so bad
sullen forge
and non-powered buffed/tweaked in someway
full nebula
other than just staves
rocky nacelle
and the cycle repeats
autumn vector
They should add some unique nongun ranged weapons for the other classes
I want more things like the Grenade gautlet thingy ogryns have
full nebula
inb4 2handed zealot powersword cleaves 9 crushers in 2 hits
rocky nacelle
Look I this is my subjective opinion
im talking about the new ones
current psword should be nerfed simply because theres too many dog shit vets carried by it
sullen forge
Oh the new one's
visual stream
They should add some unique nongun ranged weapons for the other classes
Ogryn carrying a ripped tank cannon would be funny even if I have no idea how that'd work
autumn vector
inb4 2handed zealot powersword cleaves 9 crushers in 2 hits
Inb4 melee weapon with overheat mechanics
visual stream
Glugger cannon ball, avast with ye
autumn vector
Melta
sullen forge
current psword should be nerfed simply because theres too many dog shit vets car...
we're all sons of bitches now if thats happening 🚬
sullen forge
meant towards the Zealot 2 Handed
unsure why it pinged the truth
But anyways
Thats my subjective opinion
full nebula
Honestly, the one thing i've wanted for a long time on ogryn is a some type of big two handed sword.
sullen forge
they do need to nerf powered a bit, I dont mind its attribute of dealing with armor well at all thats fine in my opinion
autumn vector
this is the same level of speculation that went on last year during the pre christmas event.
full nebula
Or something like that
autumn vector
Glad zealot chat is still zealot chat
sullen forge
but off mode is just
full nebula
Ogryn with guts sword
sullen forge
ehhhhhh
autumn vector
Can't wait for people to tear apart the videos frame by frame
rocky nacelle
this is the same level of speculation that went on last year during the pre chri...
its like the weapons that are stupid
are
still stupid
🤯
autumn vector
Ogryn with guts sword
Ogryn with D4.
autumn vector
As long as one of the melee attacks features them using the flat side of the blade im fine with it
autumn vector
its like the weapons that are stupid
Yea but they hadn't spread the polution that is d4 to two other classes yet
We just had knife users
Now we have D4 and Knife users
autumn vector
OGRYN SIZED CRUSHER WHEN
Still like the idea of brunt coming back with a bunch of weapons he stole from the heretics. Hadron being all Hadron and wanting to save them from heretic hands.
full nebula
That be nice
Fatshark with the dripfeed content
Next update after this gonna be april
autumn vector
like get ready for more achievements and penances with crudy clothing recolors for free.
full nebula
New map too so woot
twilit cloak
psyker with a 2-handed weapon looks silly in my head
sullen forge
Next update after this gonna be april
*June
sullen forge
2025
full nebula
I've always wanted ogryn to have something like a bumper sword from fallout.
gleaming furnace
Dreg crusher
full nebula
2 handed sword used by super mutants
autumn vector
We are seemingly getting more involved with grandpa nurgle if the new vid is something to go on
so maybe a new nurgle based enemy. Still havent got the gun brute plauge orgyn thing
Probably drop this winter for sure
elfin steppe
psyker with a 2-handed weapon looks silly in my head
Yeah. They should make it like you control the big sword flying with psychic.
It would be much cooler that way.
twilit cloak
that's a bit too anime for my tastes
buoyant patrol
We are seemingly getting more involved with grandpa nurgle if the new vid is som...
I wanna blast nurglings so bad
twilit cloak
they did say the implied use of psyker abilities would make it more agile than you'd think so we will see
elfin steppe
Yeah, you can use it with one hand.
full nebula
Why cant psyker do that one fataility that Kenji does in Mortal Kombat? Uses his sword like a helicopter blade.
elfin steppe
that's a bit too anime for my tastes
tbh I'd rather have flying sword than the shard they are using now.
I don't know who designed the shard, but that thing has 0 aesthetics. it's like something an Ogryn would use if he became a psyker.
full nebula
You can use your sword like assail, but if you miss on the return it drops to the ground and you have to pick it up.
elfin steppe
You are basically throwing psychic stone.
full nebula
Now that I think about it, why can't psyker have a weapon like bardins throwing axes and just lightning them back
full nebula
Exactly
Like assail but make it do much more damage and maybe have 1-2
or rock
aimed throws
elfin steppe
No, psykers are not allowed to be that cool.
bitter anvil
I want see synergy controlling ogryn rock flying around smashing enemies
full nebula
Psyker Ogryns are a thing
full nebula
Unfortunately this powerscaling it'd never happen
bitter anvil
Psyker Ogryns are a thing
I know she is
She’s the smartie ogryn
Boy psyker ogryn are dead anyway
full nebula
also no female ogryns in dt
we're not ready for that
they already know what will happen
bitter anvil
In lore there’s female psyker ogryn not much story telling
majority male ogryn psyker are executed
obsidian prairie
To be fair
That’s what normal psykers do
Why shoot lighting bolts that reveal your position when you can just
Drop a statue on someone
lone matrix
assail shards
elfin steppe
*assail shards*
Psychic rubble, you can't change my mind.
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-dr-strange-magic-marvel-warlock-gif-174861...
Why is blud doing gang sign?
bitter anvil
Why is blud doing gang sign?
Gang spell casting
acoustic dune
Is doctor the strange from da hood?
obsidian prairie
Psychic rubble, you can't change my mind.
They are shards of spite
acoustic dune
sullen forge
autumn vector
I cast brick
Their brain burst would just be a melee grapple. Pick up by forehead and squeeze.
bitter anvil
Their brain burst would just be a melee grapple. Pick up by forehead and squeeze...
Or grab heretic and throw at horde
Exclude ogryn sized
acoustic dune
visual stream
Zealot chat been real quiet since this dropped 🔥
bitter anvil
modern lintel
foul heretical creature
spare talon
visual stream
All this pain because one dog wanted to both no-pause and do a hit reg on my dodge
bitter anvil
Rebel path playing in background
brazen umbra
Two handed power swords baaaaby
bitter anvil
Yes sir
ember yew
All this pain because one dog wanted to both no-pause and do a hit reg on my dod...
yeah, its best to use pushattack in most cases
full nebula
Best blessings, brutal momentum slaughterer
brazen umbra
Wonder if we'll finally get something able to kill more than 1 crusher per swing
obsidian prairie
Wonder if we'll finally get something able to kill more than 1 crusher per swing
Normal power sword can do that
brazen umbra
I'm aware I kinda meant something that did almost full damage to the second crusher in the stack
full nebula
ah, yeah idk. Huge amounts of cleave damage on carapace is unlikely i feel like. But with fatshark balancing who knows
brazen umbra
Yeah I feel the same way
bitter anvil
at least illisi pretty sure
illisi take while to kill crusher with few charge attack
full nebula
Yeah, I disclosed its just slower lol
bitter anvil
Still good use on horde
brazen umbra
But if anything could do it it'd be a relic blade
bitter anvil
I wish I don’t wanna spam stroking the sword for power attack, everytime I have to stroke the sword to kill enemy better
brazen umbra
I'm also mad excited for the two handed force swords
elfin steppe
If force sword end up doing more damage than power sword I might join the psyker.
brazen umbra
I wish I don’t wanna spam stroking the sword for power attack, everytime I have ...
They described it as having a heat gauge
bitter anvil
They described it as having a heat gauge
On relic blade and force great sword
brazen umbra
So I'm guessing you switch it on and it's on until it overheats
frosty herald
Power greatsword will be a mode based weapon
brazen umbra
Power greatsword will be a mode based weapon
?
frosty herald
On relic blade and force great sword
Force greatsword has a warp slash that you can charge to 3 stages
Like carian sovereignty
bitter anvil
Hmmmm yeah
brazen umbra
Mode dependent?
bitter anvil
Why force sword being left over?
brazen umbra
Whatchu mean Willis
elfin steppe
Power greatsword will be a mode based weapon
frosty herald
You activate it so its turned on
elfin steppe
I don't believe it
brazen umbra
Force greatsword has a warp slash that you can charge to 3 stages
That sounds tighter than the world's strongest woman's you know what
Fuckin dope
brazen umbra
You activate it so its turned on
Oh I thought you meant like only on the new super difficulty
bitter anvil
Can’t vent it?
brazen umbra
I would assume you can
elfin steppe
Oh I thought you meant like only on the new super difficulty
Yeah I thought the same cause it sounds stupid.
brazen umbra
But it doesn't kill you when it ohs
brazen umbra
Yeah I thought the same cause it sounds stupid.
Yeah it'd be hard for this not to be busted
bitter anvil
:D
frosty herald
Its not an activation weapon just the 3 stage special attack
obsidian prairie
Quelling with force weapons is slow anyway, you can always quell with your blitz
visual stream
I'm sure there will be at least one blessing that interacts with or nullifies the heat bar in some way on the power sword
brazen umbra
Like assume on a good heat roll you get 5 horizontal lights doing like 1.5x the base damage of the PS with a better cleave profile
frosty herald
Heat Activation Mechanic: Generates a heat gauge, building over time. Reaching the limit locks activation briefly (overheat mechanic).
Special Attack: Sprinting Heavy stab attack for unique engagement tactics.
Force Cleave: Special attack releases a psychic cleave with scaling based on charge power (three stages).
Smooth Flow: Psyker’s psi-assisted techniques make the weapon feel lighter and more agile.
brazen umbra
Like assume on a good heat roll you get 5 horizontal lights doing like 1.5x the ...
You'd be stupid to use anything else
frosty herald
Dont forget that with the update well get an anniversary event for a weapon trinket
undone pewter
We'll probably get more in the weapon blog
frosty herald
It locks activation which seems pret straight forward
brazen umbra
The only thing I got from it is if it killed you we'd hear about that
sterile stone
Dont forget that with the update well get an anniversary event for a weapon trin...
So I just learned something new today
brazen umbra
It may or may not have a way to vent
sterile stone
Osama Bin Laden was a DBZ fan aswell as a Naruto fan.
frosty herald
I do hope we get a blessing to overcharge the weapon until 120% heat
sterile stone
Also the guy played mario cart and animal crossing.
bitter anvil
Osama Bin Laden was a DBZ fan aswell as a Naruto fan.
He play Animal Crossing
He also was a fan of Arsenal
frosty herald
And its a burning blade PS
bitter anvil
as younger himself
sterile stone
That shit is so weird ain't it
obsidian prairie
I do hope we get a blessing to overcharge the weapon until 120% heat
I want savage axe mode
brazen umbra
Have they said when they want to go into more detail on the update
bitter anvil
He want no global warming
brazen umbra
Id imagine in a few days
sterile stone
Yeah I saw that
spare talon
The only thing I got from it is if it killed you we'd hear about that
all i can say is
its one of the most unique things zealot has ever gotten and its really fun
true kindle
We had a good talk in the end
frosty herald
It wouldnt surprise me if we get a bunch of marks besides the new weapons
bitter anvil
Yeah I saw that
Adolf treating animal like a human and treating human less than a human
brazen umbra
all i can say is
its one of the most unique things zealot has ever gotten and it...
You play tested?
bitter anvil
I remember he put law No boiling lobster
brazen umbra
What was the performance like
spare talon
You play tested?
i just hallucinated it tbh
south folio
coke moment
sterile stone
I remember he put law No boiling lobster
Wasn't he a vegetarian?
bitter anvil
Wasn't he a vegetarian?
He is
sterile stone
Word.
bitter anvil
He create animal welfare
sterile stone
I know Stalin increased the literacy rate of Russians
bitter anvil
Since the time animal being neglected
true kindle
What was the performance like
Of the sword? Good, strong, fun
spare talon
definitely not power sword levels of brain off instant win
ornate bone
Fellers I had not seen the announcement of psykers getting a force greatsword
I am now happy
elfin steppe
bitter anvil
I know Stalin increased the literacy rate of Russians
Even Henry Kissenger was a Jews escape the German prosecution but then he become total controller secret intelligence and destroying third world country idk why he got peace noble prize.
ornate bone
A bit concerned about it possibly being a copy-paste of the Saltzpyre greatsword, but hopeful it might be more along the lines of the Bretonnian longsword
bitter anvil
He try making deal with Soviet in good way diplomatic
true kindle
A bit concerned about it possibly being a copy-paste of the Saltzpyre greatsword...
It's all bespoke
sterile stone
A bit concerned about it possibly being a copy-paste of the Saltzpyre greatsword...
I mean it seems loads easier to just port stuff over
Shame we don't get get a backpack gun or anything interesting.
south folio
✨✨✨bespoke✨✨✨
copper hawk
A bit concerned about it possibly being a copy-paste of the Saltzpyre greatsword...
One can fucking hope can they
ornate bone
what in the gosh darned is a bespoke
elfin steppe
Of the sword? Good, strong, fun
Why do I feel these are always the three words to describe any new weapons
bitter anvil
Shame we don't get get a backpack gun or anything interesting.
No need backpack gun just have front half sized pack gun
ornate bone
I have spokened English for a quadrillion years and barely see that word
true kindle
what in the gosh darned is a bespoke
Means custom, handmade, unique
south folio
darktide was my introduction to that word
south folio
and i have to say, i understand why they like to use that word
sterile stone
Es ist Kino.
There's only two languages as far as I'm aware of that use that word
true kindle
Lol yeah it shows up in the lua a lot right?
frosty herald
Means custom, handmade, unique
south folio
yeye
sterile stone
And neither mean anything related to good
full nebula
Are any of the new weapons stronger than DS4
spare talon
Means custom, handmade, unique
brunt calls it "handmade" cuz it "made" its way into his "hand" when he found it on the ground
south folio
brunt is not based
spare talon
Are any of the new weapons stronger than DS4 <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
yeah
they are
south folio
they do 2x damage than the ds4
bitter anvil
Shredder is being in dumpster fire again
naive stirrup
i unironically like using the achlys
sue me
full nebula
powercreep powercreep powercreep
obsidian prairie
powercreep powercreep powercreep
We will have havoc the same update it’ll be fine
spare talon
cuz we were told that ds4 was balanced on multiple forums so we wanted to release new weapons that were a little above the curve
sterile stone
powercreep powercreep powercreep
Gotta love seeing comments like this when the content hasn't reached our hands yet.
ornate bone
Finesse multiplier of your mom's weight
spare talon
relic sword is a finesse weapon like they said
we just didnt tell you it has a 40x multiplier
full nebula
If a sweeping weapon can do anything to armored like ds4, thats gonna be broken
frosty herald
Please god let the force greatsword special also be a ranged attack
sterile stone
I'm honestly glad most of you aren't in charge of balance changes
Cause good lord
full nebula
powercreep powercreep powercreep
everything should do the same amount of damage
every gun should be brought down the shredder auto level
then the game will finally be good
frosty herald
I see someones already throwing a tantrum
jagged cradle
cuz we were told that ds4 was balanced on multiple forums so we wanted to releas...
Gotta be bait right ?
obsidian prairie
Where, and what
sterile stone
I see someones already throwing a tantrum
Oh buddy I can't wait to see the reddit dumpster fire
elfin steppe
relic sword is a finesse weapon like they said
we just didnt tell you it has a 4...
I would be surprised if it actually has finesse. I don't remember any two-hand melee weapon has that stat
spare talon
Gotta be bait right ?
would i ever lie to you
obsidian prairie
would i ever lie to you
Yes
jagged cradle
would i ever lie to you
I’d hope so
south folio
make IAG do 50 damage per shot
helbore also now does 50 damage when fully charged per shot
obsidian prairie
All the time
frosty herald
Omw renaming my psyker to ludwig
spare talon
I would be surprised if it actually has finesse. I don't remember any two-hand m...
well the 1h power sword has finesse
full nebula
the plasma guns m1 and charged shot should do the same damage
sterile stone
well the 1h power sword has finesse
Bro going for the default character name
Say it ain't so Shamus
jagged cradle
Omw renaming my psyker to ludwig
My guiding moon light
spare talon
what
elfin steppe
well the 1h power sword has finesse
one hand chainsword have finesse too.
twin wagon
I appear to have arrived at the right time
Yamato is right, as always
elfin steppe
They just don't want to give two hand weapon finesse
acoustic dune
I appear to have arrived at the right time
Yamato is right, as always
Yamato the boat?
spare talon
well they clearly are doing so
copper hawk
Crusher has good finesse multipliers
sterile stone
Yamato the boat?
Motor Cycle parts
spare talon
crusher does have good finesse too but it just doesnt have a stat for it
acoustic dune
Motor Cycle parts
Oh that yamato
copper hawk
I might buy another blahaj
sterile stone
It could be alien yamato aswell
frosty herald
acoustic dune
God the spin is so shit
jagged cradle
Isn’t Yamato that instrument brand
twin wagon
God the spin is so shit
Low frame spin go brrrr
acoustic dune
Isn’t Yamato that instrument brand
I mean it's also a famous person name
elfin steppe
I only remember that's the name of Vergil's sword.
acoustic dune
Used for things
Like my d-
sterile stone
Like my d-
acoustic dune
Yeah my pants is on fire
twin wagon
No let wolf here return to old zealot chat
acoustic dune
Like my d-
elfin steppe
so are there any new weapons for veterans?
spare talon
nope
full nebula
Vet was left out this time
elfin steppe
That's hard to imagine.
obsidian prairie
I hope old PS gets whacked with mechanics
full nebula
Psyker and Ogryn were starved for weapons, and vets even had shovels before zealot got anything
obsidian prairie
Make it a weapon that requires thought
jagged cradle
Vet was left out this time
They nerfed survivalist again and plasma and power sword
sterile stone
Like my d-
Might wanna go to a doctor about that
jagged cradle
There’s your content
full nebula
Plasma still braindead op
acoustic dune
Might wanna go to a doctor about that
Sadly no insurance
acoustic dune
OK imma go piss stone at someone now
elfin steppe
I thought they would drop a surprise for vet, like Meltagun or something
full nebula
Good video
frosty herald
The strongest psyker in history (voidstrike secondairy spam) vs the strongest psyker of today (has the moonlight greatsword)
full nebula
@elfin steppe Pretty much every weapon they've added so far has been datamined
So you can kinda check that for possiblities
sterile stone
I thought they would drop a surprise for vet, like Meltagun or something
The surprise was depression
It gets everyone everytime
SURPRISE
🎊
elfin steppe
The surprise was depression
grizzled aspen
Vet deserves nothing but nerfs.
full nebula
Why
grizzled aspen
And reworks.
full nebula
Voice of command 2 op sure
ws
but thats just bad design
Def need some reworks, some things don't need nerfed though
grizzled aspen
Voc, tactical awareness, iron will, ws, all very overtuned.
full nebula
I'd be they can do some balancing by swapping around some nodes too
grizzled aspen
MF needs to be scraped and redone entirely.
full nebula
They already did
grizzled aspen
Some nodes are terrible, like exploit weakness.
spare talon
Some nodes are terrible, like exploit weakness.
theyd fuck so hard in place of punishment
grizzled aspen
Like you have a set amount of stacks that are a bonus and getting hit makes you lose them.
grizzled aspen
theyd fuck so hard in place of punishment
I'm not even worried about zealout talents rn, I'm just explaining that vet requires nerfs and reworks.
modern lintel
still recall when the full ver tree dropped their were ppl saying no keystone builds were definitely the move
modern lintel
Im tempted to buy dolphin shorts..
aquatic noob
sterile stone
still recall when the full ver tree dropped their were ppl saying no keystone bu...
Tbf I rarely use keystones
copper hawk
Zeal needs tree rework
sterile stone
Shit's still good for me
modern lintel
i like focus target sometimes ws goated
undone pewter
still recall when the full ver tree dropped their were ppl saying no keystone bu...
I mean they did squish it afterwards
spare talon
I'm not even worried about zealout talents rn, I'm just explaining that vet requ...
ik
im saying that while your doing that
move exploit weakness to the spot of punishment
full nebula
I don't use guns enough to use anything but ws
grizzled aspen
ik
im saying that while your doing that
move exploit weakness to the spot of pun...
Yes exploit weakness should be a zealout talent instead of a vet talent.
elfin steppe
Zeal needs tree rework
the wasted middle tree
grizzled aspen
It would be so much better than punishment in every way.
full nebula
is that the one that give 30% more weakspot?
obsidian prairie
It would make taxe and dclaw so much better
grizzled aspen
But also, mandatory nodes like second wind and twbs need to be less of a pain in the ass to grab.
obsidian prairie
Actual fucking armor damage for Dclaw
grizzled aspen
is that the one that give 30% more weakspot?
Punishment is that shite impact talent that leads to piety.
obsidian prairie
And even further crusher shredding on taxe
full nebula
ah i thought you were talking about a vet node
grizzled aspen
Actual fucking armor damage for Dclaw
Dclaw just needs to have a flat adm buff across the board. It is so fucking depressing trying to use it.
grizzled aspen
ah i thought you were talking about a vet node
Yes, exploit weakness is a vet node, it's brittleness on melee crits. We are saying it would be better to replace punishment with it.
modern lintel
should i play Hll for seven hours or sleep till stalker releases
full nebula
it can, i think its moreso your melee is never gonna get to that point because everything gets 2 shot
grizzled aspen
Any high critting weapon either has good adms or you have several talents to assist you in melee, like rending strikes, precision strikes, superiority complex, or bring it down.
sterile stone
should i play Hll for seven hours or sleep till stalker releases
You've got 6 more hours
Do with that information what you will Stalker
grizzled aspen
it can, i think its moreso your melee is never gonna get to that point because e...
Your melee can 1 or 2 shot any elite that isn't a crusher or mauler though.
That's what I'm getting at.
full nebula
Yes I agree
Its not bad in concept, but in practice its not good for anything that doesn't make contact 100 times
grizzled aspen
So functionally there is zero reason to use it.
Especially not when there's a free toughness node right next to it.
(I believe that's what that passive is)
full nebula
That one might not be bad with tac axe or something just for armored
jagged cradle
What id do just to know what blessings the power sword gets
grizzled aspen
Taxes can still mulch stuff quite quickly even without exploit weakness. It has excellent crit adms.
vast basin
slaughterer hasnt been bis for powersword in quite a while
full nebula
Idk i dont use it
jagged cradle
It’s power cycle bm
grizzled aspen
Currently for vet psword it's pc bm.
full nebula
Make sense, extremely broken blessing
grizzled aspen
Infinite cleave go brrr.
jagged cradle
Make sense, extremely broken blessing
What if I told you there’s an even more broken blessing combo for it