zealot-class

[placid fiber]

This is that auric that yam dragged us into, isn't it...

[sterile stone]

I been here like maybe a week or so

[sterile stone]

I've grown to have a hatred of pox gs

[bitter anvil]

I hate pox gas

[sterile stone]

Hunting grounds isn't a issue

Neither is mutants

It's just the got damn gas

[drowsy steppe]

aah

[full nebula]

placement

[placid fiber]

Personally hunting grounds is the thing that makes me hate it the most, followed by pox gas...

[full nebula]

placement is as important as anything

[placid fiber]

I despise hunting grounds...

[drowsy steppe]

well Ive gotten busy with doing more art and less time playing games 😆

[violet hornet]

pox gas is the easiest modifier, but only because it drops you a million health stims

[drowsy steppe]

hate pox gas

[bitter anvil]

Pox gas wack

[full nebula]

just play martyrdom

[bitter anvil]

Soyker dies from that

Soygryn can tank but not for long

Veteran slap shout f

[rocky nacelle]

had a feeling the dog shit rashad zealot would take the medicae over the soyker that needs it

promptly gets trapped and dies 2 seconds later

i hate being right

[drowsy steppe]

havoc game mode 👀

[bitter anvil]

Not yet

We can pretend that

[grave robin]

goddamn sweats ruining everything

[bitter anvil]

Dmg dumpstats

[grave robin]

the game needs better replayability not something catered to the sweats

[lost pumice]

Anyone else pumped for the force great sword

[grave robin]

idk anything about swords but i dont like the existing longswords in this game

[bitter anvil]

Welll uhhh I did pick the damage bonus on chorus on one zealot (for experimenting)

[grave robin]

calling them that cuz idk their names, blaze sword power sword w.e

[misty mason]

Inb4 its a Force JustOKSword

[gusty orbit]

New strat just dropped

[rocky nacelle]

@merry flume https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhMH5OtaDvw

https://tenor.com/view/mario-dance-moves-party-gif-21254682

[drowsy steppe]

wdym

[gusty orbit]

All horde shooters boil down to the same, replayability is in the moment to moment gameplay, not much else

[grave robin]

chaos wastes saved verm

[drowsy steppe]

not accepting any other opinion other than this song is a BOP

[misty mason]

Removing locks removed the rng, which kind of broke the end game player's reward loop

[grave robin]

nope idc about that i like having weapons

[bitter anvil]

Reverting that pissed off lot people

[misty mason]

I mean

[spare talon]

i have nothing to do with all of this

[misty mason]

You liking having weapons doesnt change anything

[grave robin]

sucks to suck then ig

[drowsy steppe]

ok..

[grave robin]

maybe a bar would be nice

actual hub mechanics

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-suffering-from-success-this-so-cute-what-a-lovely-morning-oh-ma-gad-gif-11233135040670052230

[drowsy steppe]

and what about the catered to sweats

[misty mason]

Im just saying from a design perspective they need to reincentivise end game play

Thats what Havoc mode is supposed to do

[modern lintel]

youll have to spend some on the 3rd atleast

[drowsy steppe]

kinda agree

[misty mason]

But yeah, its catered to not just endgame, but high intensity players (sweats)

[grave robin]

true they should bring back locks and sunset everybodys current weapons

just like d2 did

[bitter anvil]

[drowsy steppe]

no locks good but it does mean end game loop is non existent

[misty mason]

Chaos wastes mode would be better cause it incentivises you to play through variability in play via the rng blessings

[bitter anvil]

Doing that just lose lot player

[rocky nacelle]

end game loop is being as stupid as possible

[gusty orbit]

If I have to guess havoc will have a month at most of people of all skill levels playing for curiosity and after that it'll just be a septic tank of degeneration and sweaties

[misty mason]

I agree

[elfin steppe]

Wow

[grave robin]

or it'll be a dead mode like Winds of Magic

[drowsy steppe]

fun fact: this is my Ogryn character's face after former friend forwarded it to a mod asking for it to be added as sticker

[elfin steppe]

I take my words back

[drowsy steppe]

you are not forced to play havoc tho

[violet hornet]

oh what up mal

[drowsy steppe]

and you are not forced to play chaos waste

hello jaaw

[violet hornet]

I didn't recognize you lol

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/froth-slober-gif-21006837

[drowsy steppe]

jawa

[misty mason]

Didnt say I was

[elfin steppe]

I thought they will never release a two-handed power sword.

[grave robin]

no chaos wastes is the good mode

[violet hornet]

hell yeah I remember that getting posted lmao

[grave robin]

winds of magic isn't

[misty mason]

Im just pointing out a flaw in the current design environment

[rocky nacelle]

coped a 2H FSword and 2H GS for zealot and soyker into existence

https://tenor.com/view/picklejuicelover69-gif-1483426411005875907

[bitter anvil]

1 more day

[zinc talon]

it exists because I want it to exist

13 hours

[bitter anvil]

And there’ll be bugs

[drowsy steppe]

no one mentioned anything about winds of magic other than you

[rocky nacelle]

real doom slayer build time

[spare talon]

bear in mind that the 2h power sword activations functions differently than 1h power sword activations

[gusty orbit]

Quite literally, inhaling copium worked

[zinc talon]

if it plays, I stay

[rocky nacelle]

2H PSword

• Dbarrel

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-366884463840825135

[misty mason]

Yeah sounds like it has a thrust activation

Rather than sweep

[zinc talon]

oh did they tease a new weapon or something

[misty mason]

Yes

2h FS and PS and single barrel heavy stubber

[drowsy steppe]

new devblog

[spare talon]

what

[rocky nacelle]

imagine reading

no one is gonna read that

[misty mason]

I thought I read that

[rocky nacelle]

and everyone will bitch

[zinc talon]

have they set a date?

[violet hornet]

3rd of december

[spare talon]

Special Attack: Sprinting Heavy stab attack for unique engagement tactics

Heat Activation Mechanic: Generates a heat gauge, building over time. Reaching the limit locks activation briefly (overheat mechanic).

[misty mason]

Oh uh huh

[spare talon]

i am allowed to say opinions on things

the overheat mechanic fucking rocks

[rocky nacelle]

you also did not read what i said

[misty mason]

How is a special attack going to fit on a weapon that has a charge mode?

[rocky nacelle]

which fits

[elfin steppe]

Do you guys think a two-handed FS will deal more damage than a PS?

[misty mason]

Like is it a push attack to activate or something?

[zinc talon]

all activation weapons should have an overheat or gas meter or something to them

[drowsy steppe]

oh so kinda like bretonnian longswords heavies

[zinc talon]

recharge for shock/power mauls

[spare talon]

para just doesnt want me to say things i know about the new weapons

smh

[spare talon]

arent those overheads

[full nebula]

nah that sounds tedious as hel;l

[zinc talon]

well don't spoil

[lost pumice]

I'm looking forward to playing that tomorrow

[drowsy steppe]

yuh but I mean the sprinting

since the french longswords have that small forwarding movement

when you do the heavies

[rocky nacelle]

me when I dont read

[gusty orbit]

I think so, or maybe like the executioner sword dash mechanic per heavy attack

[full nebula]

gimmie saltzpyre rapier pls

[spare talon]

para just doesnt wanna hear about the new stuff
smh guys
hes tryna silence me

[rocky nacelle]

ill be waiting for people to ask why a 1H and 2H have different special activations when they drop

[spare talon]

that will happen tho

itll be hilarious

[drowsy steppe]

100%

maybe it will be better activation or unnecessarily worse

[spare talon]

but theyre gonna make a devblog going further into detail on the weapons

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cat-girl-talk-fast-online-chat-gif-16273991575876544877

[spare talon]

so anyone who reads that will know its different

[rocky nacelle]

ill be waiting for the steam blog news

then i can get hype

[lost pumice]

I really want to like the chain axe. But it just doesn't feel good to use imo

[grave robin]

verm also had this issue, once you had a swift slaying weapon you didnt need anything else

[rocky nacelle]

(I am the swift slaying weapon)

[drowsy steppe]

swift slay deez

[lost pumice]

Is any mk of the chainaxe better than the other? Or more fun? I know that 2nd one is subjective

[rocky nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAt47pri79g

[vestal spade]

the 4 with thunderous and bloodletter?

[rocky nacelle]

@merry flume

[rocky nacelle]

@fleet zealot

[spare talon]

this is a bait roll

it can literally get 2 power blessings that can kill outright

[lost pumice]

I might try that out.

[spare talon]

and also applies to normal non revved attacks

it literally can get slaughterer and headtaker

and also thrust

[vestal spade]

special activations are fun, and if you dodge out it still applies full stacks iirc

[lost pumice]

That's what I've been using

[spare talon]

on the mk4 thats the ideal roll

[bitter anvil]

Gale

[lost pumice]

I don't think I've tried a bleed build in this game at all.

[spare talon]

mk12 can also use that but you can swap one of them out for thrust since the heavies are more single target there

[vestal spade]

i had this discussion with someone yesterday. please dont confuse someone asking for something different and fun to play with them asking for the meta

[elfin steppe]

I gotta say, the sprint heavy charge stab sounds odd for a two-handed sword.

[vestal spade]

a lot of experienced players want variety over the BIS

[spare talon]

i mean functionally the roll is to achieve the same thing

but one does 1 thing and the other does 2 things

[vestal spade]

sometimes i want to play something diff, even if it is just worse, its diff, and after 1k hours sometimes i want diff

[spare talon]

its not an argument of variety
its an argument of literally the fact that one does more

youre playing it the same way

[bitter anvil]

1 hit kill same boring build

[sterile basalt]

this reminded me
when is this game coming out again?

[bitter anvil]

Oh shit

More doom in medieval

[sterile basalt]

we're so back

[lost pumice]

11am est tomorrow

[spare talon]

the argument of variety is valid if it changes how you use the weapon, like using both barrels/deathspitter vs scattershot/manstopper on double barrel
thats a difference in variety/usage

but when its just a different way to do the same thing
you cant really make that point when its just the same as another thing but worse

[vestal spade]

bloodletter has other perks, with some synergy with otehr talents for yourself and others

[bitter anvil]

On zealot yes

[rocky nacelle]

gunker dbarrel better

dont care

🚬

[spare talon]

the 1 usage it has would be scourge, but its on a weapon that barely benefits from crit
and thats assuming you even get to land it before they die

the only other one would be ogryn with their delight in destruction, but that also requires the enemy to be bleeding and alive for more than 1ish seconds

[rocky nacelle]

anything bloodletter can be put on usually kills before the bleed takes an actual noticeable effect

excluding monstros

[lost pumice]

Maybe I'll try the mk 12 chain axe. See how that feels

[spare talon]

and if they have that, theyre typically already capped out from batter

[spare talon]

this was in the case of bloodletter thunderous, which indirectly one shots crushers

but comes at the cost of 2 power blessings that are near permanently active

[rocky nacelle]

yea thunderous doesnt take effect either

[spare talon]

which directly one shots crushers, speeds up their horde clear with the damage and cleave, etc

[rocky nacelle]

before death I mean

thunderous is better on oggy

[spare talon]

like im not trying to be like "you should always run meta"
but in this case its literally just a worse version of the way youd be playing anyway

theres a difference between mixing things up to keep things fresh and just making your builds worse

[rocky nacelle]

@modern lintel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q_oo2J433Q

[grave robin]

it's fun with ogryn

[lost pumice]

I need to finish leveling up my ogryn. I got to 14 or something like that and stopped

[spare talon]

ogryns when they get 52% dr for just playing the game

[rocky nacelle]

[spare talon]

wait no it was 48%

cuz its 6 stacks of 8%

[lost pumice]

I switched from ogryn to leveling psyker a while back. It was a shock

[obsidian prairie]

I have tasted the forbidden sauce of DR maxing taxe

[spare talon]

ITS SO GOOD

[obsidian prairie]

Holy shit this is balanced

[spare talon]

do you understand why i named this the build for it

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d542ea0-2eca-412b-979e-a74c9d3ede8b/left-click-lobotomite-immortal

[rocky nacelle]

most balanced brain dead shit zealot has

[obsidian prairie]

Ascension riser giving me the most ass teammates known to man on normal board high int dogs

[spare talon]

holy shit

[obsidian prairie]

(I didn't even trigger until death)

[sterile basalt]

enduring faith + stalwart?

[spare talon]

and good balance

[rocky nacelle]

EF Stalwart Good balance

[obsidian prairie]

And Good Balance

[full nebula]

Playing normal board and expecting people do anything is asking for trouble

[spare talon]

and benediction

[sterile basalt]

I might try it

what perks & blessings

[spare talon]

@sterile basalt #zealot-class message

[obsidian prairie]

Ran this with flamer and cara instead of unyielding

[spare talon]

i recently tried taxe 7 with bm ht and its also good

[obsidian prairie]

The two pogryns I had to fight were just

an excercise in carpal tunnel

Not a difficult one

But still

[obsidian prairie]

I ran taxe 7 first

Its moveset is neat

I might go buy one to have a mk 2 & 7

[lunar fable]

we love holding grudges

i am stuck in an infinite loading screen

[lunar fable]

yippee

[sterile stone]

Reminds me of Pablo

[full nebula]

mouth lookin like a primates backside

[drowsy steppe]

disgustang

[lunar fable]

bro looks like a peeled coconut

[opal star]

my stupid ass tried to hit a burgle from behind on the bridge of vigil station oblivium

[full nebula]

[sterile stone]

Wonder if beluga even uploads videos anymore

[opal star]

man FUCK that slam attack bro

[elfin steppe]

Why do I have more Diamantine

[lunar fable]

@hard nexus were you the one who told me to get cleave dump for the mk3 evis

or was it somebody else

[sterile stone]

I never in my 350+ years alive will never know why people choose to fight mostrisities on anywhere that has ledges

[opal star]

rashad gaming

[sterile stone]

Like they aren't gonna toss you like a frisbee with a single hit

[fleet zealot]

if you don't want to hold full revs just use mk4 and spam lights

[spare talon]

cuz ive probably spent more than you since the crafting update dropped

[lost pumice]

Gonna try this rn

[spare talon]

empowerment costs lots of diamantine

[opal star]

I thought I'd at least catch the railing like 😭

[spare talon]

and i made nearly 1 of everything on every character

[fleet zealot]

mk4 is imo slightly better, doesn't suffer like the mk3 evi, but mk12 is simpler and more straightforward

thunderous bloodletter is the meme-iest of the meme builds

[gusty orbit]

Sadly they do

[gusty orbit]

With no awareness of where their back is pointing at

[sterile stone]

There we go

Keyboard cleaned

[lost pumice]

Puncture/surgical would probably be best for bistol?

[sterile stone]

Seeing people get sent to Narnia and never learning from this mistake

Is one hell of a experience

[lunar fable]

i've seen a guy get smacked away like 3 times before

[placid fiber]

My dockets shop has 2 perfect end roll heavy swords... and I already have one on this zealot...

Meanwhile I have this one lol

[fleet zealot]

lethal prox puncture for crusher, puncture surgical or puncture run and gun otherwise

[frozen kernel]

Not me going “get away it’s gonna blow get away back up back up” and watching my friend try to run straight past a dead BoN on the silo cluster bridge and get saved by the railing

[opal star]

the blast radius aint all taht big trust

[lunar fable]

this blast radius ain't shi-

[median bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-team-rocket-blasting-off-again-fly-sky-gif-5141373

[obsidian prairie]

I love dodging crusher overheads with my -4/2 dodges on flamer

[elfin steppe]

I wish I had something to empower at all.

[lost pumice]

Thanks, ill try out the lethal prox. That sounds fun

[spare talon]

???

[obsidian prairie]

Flamer is just so much fun to go "Fuck this, taxe is not up to it" and just dump 30 kills of fuel into a crowd while being totally invincible

Massive stress reliever

[outer tartan]

bro i cant wait for 2h power sword

[misty mason]

Well that was probably the wildest match ive ever played

[lost pumice]

I got vermintide 2 for like 1.50. It's still pretty active on PC isn't it?

[elfin steppe]

I mean I basically have all the weapons I need by the time of the last patch.

[misty mason]

Mutated Horrors plus Hi intensity shock troop

We had 3 bon bons up at once at one point

[spare talon]

but are they perfect 80/80/80/80/60s

[misty mason]

Plus it seems to have also had sniper gauntlet and low vis somehow?

[elfin steppe]

They only need some minor upgrades.

[elfin steppe]

Ah I see, a wild perfectionist.

[spare talon]

i mean
what else is there to do with the extra money
its not hard to get them either

[obsidian prairie]

"wild perfectionist"

It costs like

[spare talon]

like i made a perfect bolter just earlier today with one that i had lying in my inventory

[obsidian prairie]

100k to get a perfect base

[frozen kernel]

I just buy out brunt’s whole shop to mass sacrifice weapons

If anything has a godroll I just favorite and sacrifice everything else

So if I ever want to use those weapons, I’ll have one on hand already with good stats. Just need to empower and bless it up

[elfin steppe]

Actually, I have. Because the game caps the money at 25000000, I still have a ton of weapons I didn't discard.

[frozen kernel]

One of my guys was malding earlier because he doesn’t have crafting material to experiment with new weapons

[spare talon]

did you buy out the entirety of the commissary

[frozen kernel]

But also pissed because he doesn’t play

[obsidian prairie]

About to establish crit build supremacy

[frozen kernel]

I told him he won’t get more material if he doesn’t play and that it goes quicker when we’re not carrying our brand new friend through malice

[spare talon]

EWWW

[obsidian prairie]

What the fuck

[frozen kernel]

“Nah I’d rather go play space marine”

[elfin steppe]

Space Marine sucks

[lunar fable]

incredible

[south grove]

this drawing of hestia makes me feel things

[lunar fable]

this vet in my mission

only used his bolter for trash mobs

[elfin steppe]

They definitely spent a year to just design the cosmetics.

[lunar fable]

he didn't use it on a single burgle

peak

[frozen kernel]

I only giggled a little bit when he said “Every time I’m playing Darktide or you guys start talking about it, I just think that I could be playing Space Marine”

[frozen kernel]

Like damn dawg if it’s an ordeal just like, don’t come

Sexy pilot Ogryn

[south grove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-the-voices-jolly-christmas-gif-5774532700081404887

[obsidian prairie]

this goon has 115 tough

[fleet zealot]

goon

https://tenor.com/view/diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-christmas-rowley-christmas-rowley-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-itchywill-cal-gif-13038586902348598381

[rocky nacelle]

i have 120 tough : ^)

(on me gunker)

[elfin steppe]

"precision" "marksman" for an Ogryn

Sniper Ogryn incoming

[fleet zealot]

i mean gorgon already exists so

i'm ready for ogryn to have the better VIAG

heavy stubber gorgon might as well be a sniper rifle/DMR at this rate

[blissful frigate]

I hope it gets ads and weapon customization lets you swap all the parts for a scaled up sized infantry autogun

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-like-that-will-happen-gif-14783019212194612503

attachment update anytime now copium

[frozen kernel]

Gorgon is the worst gambling experience

Shooting 14 rounds at an idol 8m away

[fleet zealot]

Chaos, Disorder, and Anarchy

[frozen kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-emperor-frenzied-shriek-gif-18454618

[fleet zealot]

how

just tap fire

[frozen kernel]

RNGsus likes to grab me by the hair and spit in my mouth

[lunar fable]

oh my god

just joined a chasm mission

there was a dh at the end of the bridge

and then a horde spawned with a burgle

disaster

[fleet zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meGfpzRG8Tw

[lunar fable]

just as the first one was about to die another spawned

[fleet zealot]

how i feel ogryn player minds work

[frozen kernel]

I think I have more consistency rolling non-fake +3 stamina curios than I do hitting that one idol in the first security checkpoint of hourglass

It’s fucking tragic

My Ogryn has more +3 curios than any of my characters AND I DONT EVEN USE STAM CURIOS ON OGRYN

[fleet zealot]

some just have weird invisible walls around them

[frozen kernel]

Funny quote from play session with newbie friend the other day

“Psykers don’t use grenades, and if they take a staff they don’t need ammo either. At that point, the only resource psykers consume is my patience”

[opal star]

smykers after not giving fellow varlets suicidal tendencies every match

https://tenor.com/view/hot-steaming-mad-tantrum-angry-gif-112746539204896193

[frozen kernel]

I said this unironically as I was playing surge gazer lmao

[fleet zealot]

[frozen kernel]

Psyker is fun to occasionally liberate yourself from the burden of ammunition

[opal star]

yeah but then you'd have to play psyker

(mortal sin)

[frozen kernel]

I feel like grenade boxes are like rare Pokémon cards in some matches

[spare talon]

wow

i finally

had my first game with the reddit knife zealot stereotype

[frozen kernel]

That or our veteran player is running a room temp IQ and forgot to take demo stockpile, so he’s just eating them all while I kill shit

[frozen kernel]

Did they run into a DH and call you all slow?

[spare talon]

no the vet ran into the DH and i stole the aggro from him and killed it

[frozen kernel]

Couldn’t be me, I let it eat them every time

[spare talon]

this zealot
just couldnt play the game

[spare talon]

it was going to be my dh anyway

i just took it back

[frozen kernel]

Oh god he really was picking his nose

My eyes went to specialist kills first and I was like “oh yeah not bad, he was at least contributing”

Then I saw deaths/downs, damage taken, etc

No ping counter/10

[frozen kernel]

How dare you not have the scoreboard plug-in that adds teammate latitude/longitude positions

Did he try to get ahead of the spawns and just…died?

[spare talon]

no im pretty sure he was just stupid and terrible

[frozen kernel]

ℱ

[spare talon]

refer to these stats above

[frozen kernel]

Yeeeeaaah…

[frozen kernel]

Lmao

[rocky nacelle]

seen a rashad zealot xbot run ahead after taking the only medicae charge then promptly get trapped 2 seconds later and die

[frozen kernel]

Bro eating grandfather’s moldiest knuckle sandwiches

[placid fiber]

Is this supposed to be the ranged version of riposte...?

It's for the laspistol

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/izutsumi-lord-giveth-gif-2067112575126305331

[frozen kernel]

HE SLID OFF

[spare talon]

this is why i love normal heresy

literally national geographic

[blissful frigate]

Cryonic rod

[placid fiber]

Welp... I have this in the works for when I ever want to try out the laspistol. :/

[spare talon]

based

[blissful frigate]

Zola getting cryonic brainrot

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/domgcat-donkeycat-gif-24380643

[rocky nacelle]

i never get national geographic normal board

so i suffer carrying aurics instead

[spare talon]

what hte fuck

his knife wasnt even bad either

this isnt terrible

[lunar fable]

i saw a psyker with sprint efficiency and lacerate

[frozen kernel]

Don’t leave your veteran unattended. Any unclaimed rejects may be collected by the airport police Admonition’s First

[placid fiber]

That was a random's knife? Is that even legal? For them to have a halfway decent weapon, that is.

[spare talon]

scroll up

[gusty orbit]

Bro almost nailed it

[spare talon]

now he just has to learn how to play the game

[placid fiber]

Was Dredd the guy with the knife?

[spare talon]

yes

[placid fiber]

He's worse at knifing than I am... Jesus that's a fucking achievement

[frozen kernel]

Lmao

[obsidian prairie]

Crit build supremacy established

[placid fiber]

I mean I'm bad at knifing... but I at least know how to play the game <.<

and by bad at knifing... I mean: on a non-crit build my crit rate is still higher than my weakspot rate a decent amount of the time x.x

[gusty orbit]

It took me a whole whopping 3 games to get decent at knives, that's just how those abominations are

[drowsy steppe]

spam PA on mk6 ngl

fastest dps

[placid fiber]

I mean... I have to basically relearn how I darktide when I use the knife compared to the weapons I've used in the past x.x

[gusty orbit]

And can't say I regret it, whenever I want to turn the neurons off I now know where to go

[obsidian prairie]

Exclusively doing that is kinda dumb

[placid fiber]

I'm not used to that type of weapon at all

[jagged cradle]

@spare talon take kez back

[obsidian prairie]

Works very poorly with FotF and doesn't let you close very quickly

[bitter anvil]

I may have shitty fps drop during gameplay

[obsidian prairie]

Also no horizontal swing

[gusty orbit]

What is pa? Idk I spam lights and some heavies in hordes and everything dies like it's heresy, and of course heavies for all elites

[obsidian prairie]

so falls off against scattered targets

[drowsy steppe]

push attack

[spare talon]

what

[jagged cradle]

I don’t want him anymore

[bitter anvil]

[jagged cradle]

Kinda smells weird too

[drowsy steppe]

just git gud with the timing

[bitter anvil]

That Britbong lad did something?

[spare talon]

if he could read he'd be very upset

[gusty orbit]

Mk6 knife is funny

Casually covering the whole screen with a cleaving finesse attack??

[jagged cradle]

Yeah I know

[obsidian prairie]

"cleaving"

[gusty orbit]

It's enough for what it is, I just find funny that something like that even exists for a finesse weapon of all things

[jagged cradle]

But I can’t help but tell the truth

Especially when he’s using power sword

[spare talon]

it actually barely has cleave and its cleave damage profile is not great

[obsidian prairie]

If you time a jump and a PA right on mk3 knife you can get over a bulwark shield

[exotic raft]

which chainaxe mark do you guys prefer?

[rocky nacelle]

works for me

[spare talon]

but its cleave profile is still the same

[frozen kernel]

The one where I max out the mastery and never touch it because my pp is small

[gusty orbit]

mk4, the og one

[exotic raft]

thanks

[exotic raft]

It feels pretty good right now

[frozen kernel]

Chaxe is a commitment weapon and I’m afraid of that

I say while maining the Mk3 Evi lol

But I only have to commit to like, crushers

[gusty orbit]

chaxe isn't hard to use, like, lights for elites and specials and heavies when you need cleave, just gotta develop the mindset to know which to use when and where

[frozen kernel]

Didn’t it get a change a while back that made it not drag as hard on everything?

[exotic raft]

think the other mark is just the opposite

[gusty orbit]

i used the other mark a whopping 1 time, called it utter shit for my playstyle and have never used it again

[exotic raft]

I think they changed it but I might be wrong

[gusty orbit]

i had totally forgot about that change but yeah, still sometimes you get your screen flipped when going full monke

[frozen kernel]

Lmao nice, quirks of the tide games

[sturdy abyss]

What mark and blessings do you guys like for the heavy sword?

[spare talon]

mk9
headtaker deathblow

[lunar fable]

i wonder what this guy was using

[copper hawk]

The operation

[copper hawk]

Yes.. yeeeees..

Mk9... goood boooy..

[spare talon]

nvm

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/8ballcat-catboy-petting-gif-3570089946320755717

[spare talon]

mk7 chained deathblow perfect strike

[copper hawk]

KRILL YOURSHELLF !!

https://tenor.com/view/you-should-low-tier-god-ltg-krill-one-in-a-krillion-gif-7939027577238167153

[spare talon]

me when i have the ability to use hsword on my exe bolter vet

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

A gif of it exists

[spare talon]

but i choose dclaw

[copper hawk]

I prefer the dclaw on vet

[spare talon]

[copper hawk]

To deal w rager packs

Press button 2 win

The utility of that is nice

[rocky nacelle]

hearing vet can 4 parry a DH with dclaw

[spare talon]

i still havent used hsword in a long time on zealot either

[rocky nacelle]

killing myself

[copper hawk]

Why not.

Use my build

Uuuuse it..

[spare talon]

and it seems like that will remain the case for the forseeable future

[rocky nacelle]

cole not falling for femboy hypnosis

rare w

[placid fiber]

Hey, look... the perfect antax...

[copper hawk]

U r intimidated by my imma-cat-late catboy swag nyaa

[spare talon]

"rare w"
keep yourself safe

[rocky nacelle]

rare w

not falling for catboy femboy hypnosis

👍

[copper hawk]

Ooooh u wanna use hs9 w piety ooooooh

Oooooh u dont need twbs oooooh

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

ooooo you want to shit yourself.............

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/alban-alban-knox-nijisanji-nijisanjien-alban-nijisanji-gif-7860048324262423627

[spare talon]

sorry i couldnt do it even if i wanted to
i dont have cat ears

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/propaganda-gif-19992759

[full nebula]

fire good

[plain dragon]

How make flamer work

[spare talon]

cringe ass clip

[sturdy abyss]

What do you find the best attacks for horde clearing are? Chaining the horizontal heavies or lights?

[plain dragon]

Understood it is now my mission to set fire to the underhive

[spare talon]

@copper hawk

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-soyjak-pissluffare-soy-gif-25061889

[rocky nacelle]

will post the same exact clip when people ask for flamer clips

yea gottem

[grave robin]

[spare talon]

yeah but my bgm is awesome and cool

checkmate

[rocky nacelle]

"gay and shit"

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/edgeworth-ace-attorney-big-brain-gif-5363889720252618555

[rocky nacelle]

check mate

[plain dragon]

Okay do we have an ogrynomicon for blessings and perks as of Locked and Loaded

[spare talon]

no

we have kuli's guides on everything but they are more like wikipedia for the game rather than a guide

[rocky nacelle]

also

my combo counter was 41

nice 22

noob

💅

[visual stream]

@spare talon How much does dclaw need sustained assault in a crit build

[grave robin]

wtf is a dclaw

[spare talon]

devils claw sword

[full nebula]

devils claw swords

[grave robin]

ohh

[plain dragon]

Parry machine

[visual stream]

Does this hold up with a bolter ranged?

[spare talon]

yes, puncture shatter

[visual stream]

I would've figured you'd want PtU and Anoint

[spare talon]

thats what i use with it

[visual stream]

Ahh

[spare talon]

its 4 shots to kill a crusher as long as you at least hit the head for some of the hits

[visual stream]

Also it'll crit often without Piety?

[plain dragon]

What's the talent setup for a flamer heavy build

[spare talon]

shred and scourge is 55%

and shred is basically always there

scourge is easily stacked because dclaw typically kills in multiple hits even if theyre crits

its like the complete inverse as to why scourge sucks on rashad despite being finesse

[rocky nacelle]

funny 80% crit dclaw + bolter

or you can drop 10% crit

go stalwart

and grab GB

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-factory-you-will-never-find-another-store-shelf-a-bunch-of-buzz-lightyears-gif-21719996

[visual stream]

Gotta modify it a wee bit to have chorus

[rocky nacelle]

this is why i play soyker rn

i look at my zealot loadouts

and its just

https://tenor.com/view/fight-club-gif-232248345825342653

0 desire to use anything

at all

dont even want to use DBarrel on zealot

[full nebula]

See this what I was talking about earlier, this game has the illusion of build variety, but theres about 8 between every character

[spare talon]

i would be lying if i said the standard zealot builds didnt feel great tho tbh
just slot in whatever weapon you want to use into them

[rocky nacelle]

feels better on gunk

[spare talon]

like buildcrafting is worse on zealot but the build itself is so fun

[rocky nacelle]

its not the results

its what makes the results

thats so fucking boring

behind the smokes and mirrors its all the 3 same builds and fucking sucks

[full nebula]

Thats every character too

[rocky nacelle]

i do not think soyker has the build limitation that zealot has

nor vet

[full nebula]

and the reality too is even if there are other builds, probably the majority of people are using meta

[rocky nacelle]

oggy maybe

[rocky nacelle]

no one cares about that

meta users suck

99% of the time

[full nebula]

even if it has a little more variety, you know people aren't using it

[plain dragon]

Do meta users know the optimal talent loadout to use flamethrower

[full nebula]

everyone uses voice of command

[rocky nacelle]

why would I care about people

im talking the builds in general

zealot has shitty build limitations compared to vet/soyker and oggy is probably in the same boat as zealot

but thats how it is when 2 trees get reworks and the others are just left how they are after talent rework

the new weapons we get are all zealots get to really play with in forms of "variety" and "diversity"

it blows

[bitter anvil]

Soyteran*

[full nebula]

just use chorus

[gusty orbit]

Ogryn, zealot and vet have like 3 builds and a bit more if we want to get nit-pick with excess talent point variations xd

[visual stream]

What perks for dclaw

Flakiac?

[bitter anvil]

Yes

[rocky nacelle]

ye

[gusty orbit]

Ogryn definitely is in the same damn boat

Vet kinda is too

[spare talon]

vet is in a different but similar boat

most of their talents are really good

[gusty orbit]

Psyker gets the good side of things at least, I think reworks for the rest of trees will come, in fatshark time tho💀

[visual stream]

Veteran having an endless treasure trove of yummers, impactul talents in the bottom third of the tree vs. the zealot line pattern etched into our brains

[spare talon]

but the ones that are better are the ones always picked, and they typically are picked because of their pathing with VoC

[full nebula]

nerf blazing piety when

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-gif-26826812

[visual stream]

You WILL take duellist, you WILL take second wind and thereby be forced to path tknives

[plain dragon]

Buff Martyrdom and Inexorable Judgement

[spare talon]

IJ is definitely zealots best keystone

[full nebula]

powercreep powercreep powercreep

[spare talon]

even in its current nerfed state

[plain dragon]

I want more powercreep to justify cooler enemies

[visual stream]

IJ doesn't really need it thou Yeah make it apply to the hit that activates it

Indirect Ironhelm buff

[visual stream]

Shred/Rampage deeclar?

[spare talon]

yes

[bitter anvil]

Deeclar

[plain dragon]

I will not rest until Vet is literally Ciaphas Cain, Zealot is a Living Saint, Psyker is Inquisitor Eisenhorn, and Ogryn is Nork Deddogg

[bitter anvil]

SS and ram it is outdated?

[full nebula]

The powerscaling ship has pretty much sailed me thinks

[spare talon]

rampage was previously damage
now it is strength, so it gives cleave
and shred is right there for both crits on a finesse weapon and crit talent synergy

[plain dragon]

I don't think there was ever a chance of powercreep not being vicious and heavy handed tbh

See: Vermintide compared to Vermintide 2

Or launch Vermintide 2 to current Vermintide 2

[rocky nacelle]

alright

now that we have new weapon announcement the real fun starts

[plain dragon]

Damn Vermintide 2, you put Warframe to shame

[full nebula]

Idk I wasn't there for it

[visual stream]

The tooltip is mislabelled?

[rocky nacelle]

WHAT BLESSINGS ARE THEY GONNA PUT ON IT

AND HOW MANY USELESS ONES DO WE GET

[spare talon]

yes

[visual stream]

I think I remember hearing that

Yeah xd

[full nebula]

thats another thing tbh

90% of blessings are nearly worthless

[plain dragon]

Praying Slaughterer and Headtaker so I don't have to think

[rocky nacelle]

boring

put skullcrusher hammerblow on it

[visual stream]

Matched with a zealot with a grey flamer and grey crusher

[rocky nacelle]

or thrust and sunder cause its a power weapon

[visual stream]

[plain dragon]

I want the most braindead zealot melees if I wanted to think I'd play Psyker

[rocky nacelle]

you just want people to ask you with images like this

u r noob

[full nebula]

heavy evis already exists

[spare talon]

i get a kick out of posting this image

[sullen forge]

Veteran is a weird- like

[rocky nacelle]

ill get a kick out of your corpse

[gusty orbit]

Sunder, brutal momentum, whatever power cycler equivalent it can have, headtaker

[rocky nacelle]

kicking it

[sullen forge]

fuck how do I explain this

[plain dragon]

Good, make the power greatsword as braindead as the power sword

[spare talon]

lemme check what they were again

[sullen forge]

a lot of talents are really fucking good

[full nebula]

that wont happen, it has a cooldown

[sullen forge]

like better than keystone good

[rocky nacelle]

i hope theres something related to the Heat mechanic

[sullen forge]

but its usually extremely taxing to try to take all the needed ones

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/devil-may-cry-v-dmc-devil-may-cry-dmc5-nero-gif-19587127

holy shit nero is real

bye goro majima I make dante/nero now

2H power sword

[sullen forge]

So you're usually forced into a handful of similar builds with a few varieties here and there

[full nebula]

just play shitty builds and make them work smh

[plain dragon]

Only mutated horrors mission is damnation :(

[spare talon]

i mean the last few weapons have had stuff specific to the weapons identity
like lethal prox on the bolt pistol, high voltage and lightning reflexes on the shock maul

[plain dragon]

I will absolute drag my team down past malice man I don't wanna subject damnation players to this

[full nebula]

See if you played psyker you'd become a better player.

[gusty orbit]

Power cycler equivalent/rework of power cycler/whole different thing (power with heat level yummy and basic)

[plain dragon]

I'm not even running my tankzel

[rocky nacelle]

so you mean

unstable peril from FSwords

[plain dragon]

I'm running a fucked up flamer

[rocky nacelle]

power scaling with heat %

[gusty orbit]

Yumyum

[sullen forge]

Psyker, Better player

LMAO

[plain dragon]

I have a melee psyker

[bitter anvil]

Same

[spare talon]

aint no way

[full nebula]

You'd get a lot better at dodging and movement if you played it frequently.

[plain dragon]

Scrier's Gaze + Shock Maul

[sullen forge]

PLEASE LISTEN TO YOURSELF

[rocky nacelle]

plays bubble

plays trauma staff

guys im dodging

[sullen forge]

Plays smite

[gusty orbit]

Xddd

[sullen forge]

Plays Macro EK M1 Staff

guys im carrying

[rocky nacelle]

guys im d-

dying

[plain dragon]

Wait I use smite I'm catching strays

[sullen forge]

Dont

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/horton-hears-a-who-sleep-deprived-gif-12369713

[bitter anvil]

I don’t need carrying people I can carry myself.

[rocky nacelle]

bad self report

you're done for

[gusty orbit]

Meleeker fighting crushers

[full nebula]

Smite is a niche utility, you shouldn't be using it as a primary weapon.

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-cat-ai-evil-messed-up-gif-8954148503011360396

[rocky nacelle]

this SA2 boss ass looking cat

[plain dragon]

Smite is a funny crowd control button I press for two seconds

[elfin steppe]

That's the most disturbing cat I've ever seen.

[sullen forge]

LMAO

[full nebula]

Its good for short bursts, knocking things over, breathing room. But I wouldn't rely on teammates to clean it up for you.

[plain dragon]

If they wanted me to run assail or brainburst they should let assail and brainburst cover the weaknesses of shock maul + boltpistol

[sullen forge]

I-

Im not even going to bother

[full nebula]

assail is an insane crutch if played right

[plain dragon]

I'm larping as an enforcer

[rocky nacelle]

the only time soyker makes you a better player

is if you go melee gunker

[sterile basalt]

Nah, most aren’t

[bitter anvil]

[plain dragon]

Sometimes I use a shotgun and have to switch to assail to cover shotgun weakness

[rocky nacelle]

any other time you can have your thumb up your ass and just play defensively and top dmg

[full nebula]

They said they had a melee one, thats a good way to learn the melee mechanics

you're just by nature much squishier

[plain dragon]

My psyker build is mostly good for giving other psykers anyeurisms

[sterile basalt]

Like, superiority complex (2 points) is straight up not as good as focus target + redirect fire

[spare talon]

i wonder if theyll list the blessings out in the devblog

[plain dragon]

i have really good toughness regen :3

[sterile basalt]

And superiority complex is prob the most common “extra damage node” people like to take

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/aneurysm-hhhhomeboyyyy-kings-dark-tidings-saga-by-kel-kade-reaperleviathan-head-explode-gif-21578105

[full nebula]

Psyker is squishier either way, even though it can make a ton of toughness

[sullen forge]

For the new weapons?

Im probably going to be playing Zealot a bit more

[bitter anvil]

Hsword meleeker, me

[spare talon]

yeah
so i can talk about them

[plain dragon]

As long as I'm 40 feet away from carapace melees I am usually unkillable

[rocky nacelle]

WAIT

NOTHING ELSE IS IMPORTANT RN

https://tenor.com/view/worm-dance-worm-dance-thug-gif-14075680893875498091

[sterile basalt]

Become crusher main

[full nebula]

Just use Duelling sword 4 like every other person, its the off button for everything.

[plain dragon]

I don't like dueling sword

[rocky nacelle]

probably in the week right before it

[bitter anvil]

Ds 4 like weapon I can kill armored target easily as psyker

[sullen forge]

I play it on the side with like the max DR build

really fucking funny

[bitter anvil]

For vet shredder stagger or plasma

[sullen forge]

but im looking forward to 2 Handed Psword

[full nebula]

DS4 with Scriers gaze can 1shot crushers and maulers to the head on damnation

Its brainless

[sullen forge]

Im also going to attempt helping Hahnda make the most like

[spare talon]

god this thing is SO FUCKING COOL

[sullen forge]

methhead force sword build

[plain dragon]

Shock maul makes gunners do a silly little dance before I cave their skull in

[sullen forge]

The Relic Blade?

[full nebula]

theres enough time to watch the dance at malice, but at certain point you're more worried about time to kill lmao

[elfin steppe]

Me too. I will probably finally dump the Evi even.

[bitter anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/black-and-white-toy-story-andy-toys-woody-gif-17285772

[plain dragon]

I long for a power axe

[rocky nacelle]

oh

so thats why you're invisible playing fart tide

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-think-the-rock-meme-gif-24810091

lucky bastard

[hard nexus]

that’s more for the mk15, not the mk3

[spare talon]

oh did i leave that on

thx for reminding me to turn it off

[sullen forge]

My only curiosity question is, is it easy to pick up or actually require some skill to use

if im even allowed to ask that

[bitter anvil]

Use what?

[rocky nacelle]

exactly

[full nebula]

Ayo

Zealot Polearms when

Zealot billhook pls

[bitter anvil]

I’m such a noob I ordered 10 pieces chicken but I order wings instead boneless.

[gusty orbit]

Power spear pls

[zinc talon]

PERTEC

[elfin steppe]

My dude wants to play BG3 in darktide.

[zinc talon]

LIDLWUNS

[gusty orbit]

What thing

[plain dragon]

Give me power glaive bungie

[full nebula]

Nah I want new versions of a bunch of the weapons from VT2

Use the animations again, idgaf

[plain dragon]

Staring longingly at Sword and Shield, Halberd, Billhook, Axe and Shield, Great Axe, Tuskgor Spear, and Dual Axes

[elfin steppe]

I miss elf girl

[full nebula]

Next thing this game needs is dual wielding something

[bitter anvil]

This is not destiny 2, speaking of that

[full nebula]

GIVE OGRYN TWO POWERFISTS GODDAMNIT

[bitter anvil]

Is there lord ogryn use power fist?

[full nebula]

Idk anything about lore or 40k

[bitter anvil]

Probably they won’t allow ogryn use power fist

[plain dragon]

Bungie please kill Destiny two players

[gusty orbit]

Don't think so

[full nebula]

Ogryns need some type of fist weapon, idc what. Need to recreate heavy from tf2

[plain dragon]

Anyway fatshark add Sweet Business and Actium War Rig from destiny 2

[bitter anvil]

TEAM TIDE 2

Destide 2

[jagged cradle]

Give the evis a lament skin

10/10 collab

[bitter anvil]

Big ass chainsword

[full nebula]

This game definitely needs more weapons to compete with revolver too

[plain dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny2-destiny-d2-sweet-business-specialist-feature-gif-15811479

[full nebula]

Revolvers just too quick and easy

[elfin steppe]

Sounds dope. It seems the Inquisition is finally willing to put some money on the rejects.

[spare talon]

reminder that all of weapons we have were ones that brunt just found on the sidewalk

[rocky nacelle]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4iWHHzondqddiRhaUCZNgi?si=bd5bf4ed2c7b4856

[jagged cradle]

Thanks brunt

[plain dragon]

"finally" like we don't have bolters and bolt pistols and power swords and shroudfields and other shit most humans will never see

[spare talon]

probably will have to wait for the blog

[full nebula]

Its 4 people vs a few thousand guys and daemonhosts and nurgles and whatever

Gotta have SOMEthing

[sullen forge]

Noted

[elfin steppe]

Pretty sure those are pretty standard in the astra militarum

[plain dragon]

Bolt pistols are standard to commissars, boltguns are holy relics

[bitter anvil]

How many weapon reject losing?

[elfin steppe]

Eh, are they?

[bitter anvil]

Every death they lost relic weapons

[copper hawk]

Heavies w the 9

Deathblow headtaker

Aim for heads

[elfin steppe]

Boltguns are holy relics?

[copper hawk]

You can kill up to 5 enemies at a time w dblow

[full nebula]

They should make a mission where we have to raid to get weapons that previous teams left on death

[copper hawk]

Dblow kills count as First Target hits so they do a ton of damage

[bitter anvil]

This work.

Recovery operation

[gusty orbit]

They are afaik

[zinc talon]

they can be

[copper hawk]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iSolyVfJJpN5dUCPf/spok?invite=cr-MSxrWXEsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iSosFsHfIzhsOo8i4/spok?invite=cr-MSxPd04sMjA0MjU2ODk0LA
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iTbdN7XMMkVTjhFt5/spok?invite=cr-MSxZdjksMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

[gusty orbit]

Should I always go twbs with heavy swords? I'm testing builds without it, haven't bad results

[copper hawk]

Would u like my builds

[elfin steppe]

They are definitely not holy relics

[copper hawk]

Depends on if u get hit a lot

I run it w/o twbs

But everything benefits from twbs

[sullen forge]

HS 9 be so good on Veteran- until the Crusher and Mauler come up to you to challenge you to a mewing contest

[fleet zealot]

it's not needed compared to thammer or chains

[fleet zealot]

really?

[sullen forge]

Heavy Sword on veteran even with rending takes a bit to knock down a Crusher

Maulers

[rocky nacelle]

@frosty herald

[gusty orbit]

That depends if I'm locked in or fucking around lol, today and yesterday I've only gotten damaged by toughness piercing stuff or straight up silent trappers

[fleet zealot]

i imagine with 10% rending baseline and desparado-> exploit weakness

[jagged cradle]

You mean hs6

[sullen forge]

3-4 swings

[bitter anvil]

Well you just gonna krak Grenade it

[fleet zealot]

i mean that's the same as zealot

[copper hawk]

Ill give u 3 builds rn

1 sec

[gusty orbit]

Yeah sure, I wanna go some games with them

[plain dragon]

I think you are ignoring the whole

Every Boltgun is handcrafted and blessed by techpriests, issued only to the Emperor's angels or VERY distinguished servants in his name, frequently receiving names from their wielders and being viewed as a symbol of human might as much as the aquila itself

[full nebula]

I want new knife that is just a prison shank, nothing but insanely fast pokes.

[bitter anvil]

Sacrifice some ranged build?

[sullen forge]

Crushers it’s usually like 7-9

[copper hawk]

One fuck around, one fuck around but still excellent, and a lock in one

[fleet zealot]

if you are taking heavy sword you are probably investing towards focus target or weapon specialist no?

[bitter anvil]

I think exploit weakness is okay for my view

Veteran dedicate ranged build

[gusty orbit]

Yeah, I'm figuring that much, activation weapons have it as a way more priority thing

[bitter anvil]

Like 25% melee build

[sullen forge]

You know I bet Exploit would be really fucking good if I didn’t constantly take that fucking banger of a node that is .25 Stam regen increase

Helps vet a shit ton in playing aggressively

[full nebula]

stam regen on curios?

[sullen forge]

Desperado though do help a lot

No it’s a talent node

Those small dots

[full nebula]

yeah im saying should just toss it on curios

[bitter anvil]

0.25 stamina delay regeneration

[sullen forge]

I already did

Lmao

[full nebula]

ah

[sullen forge]

So I have just shy around .5

[copper hawk]

@gusty orbit

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d34db3c-4ba5-4ce4-9df1-956e154251eb/thing-that-works-for-some-gloopin-reason Silly but still effective, has TWBS

[sullen forge]

It allows me to play extremely aggressive seeing stamina is vets issue

[full nebula]

Idk, I almost never have stamina problems on any character

[zinc talon]

yeah stamina regeneration, the stat, not only increases the number of pips per second you get, but also decreases the delay before your stamina starts to recharge

it's worth mentioning to the room, it's important to know

[copper hawk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5b8cc1-fd85-4229-a420-d6b5357d257a/snoozeful-sleepy-heavy-sword-training-wheels-build bog standard IJ HS 9 build. best way 2 build HS 9. has twbs

[zinc talon]

toughness and stamina regen both increase your bar fill and decrease the delay before it starts to fill after use/being hit

[copper hawk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d422661-125b-4083-9509-4f8394bb140d/pub-carrier this is what i use - use at own risk if ur locked in or rlly good

no twbs

or tknives

ur secondary (for the ones w tknives) can be anything

i recommend a bolter

it covers the weaknesses of the HS

[sullen forge]

Veteran with the active decrease in stamina regen as one of their draw backs

[full nebula]

See my stamina is almost never full drained though is the thing

[rocky nacelle]

(until death procs because pull out time of grenades)

[sullen forge]

Hence I get those

[copper hawk]

both in the carapace and the unyielding department

[zinc talon]

plus, magdumping the bolter into a crowd is practically free therapy it's so cathartic

[spare talon]

like the curio perk?

[zinc talon]

yis

[spare talon]

the curio perk only affects the stamina regen

not the delay

[zinc talon]

oh, well does toughness regen anyway

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jeff-goldblum-gif-24255491

hope they haven't gutted my toughness regen delay in the same intent too

[visual stream]

Block eff. affects parry, right?

[sturdy abyss]

Ok cool. I figured that was what was best. I think mine is just a low damage starting roll so it’s feeling bad while I’m leveling it up. Thanks😁

[zinc talon]

with 3 plus all my bells and whistles okri could get to 21.something toughness a second at a .71 sec delay before recharge

[sullen forge]

Im honestly going to do some fine tuning

[spare talon]

yes

[sullen forge]

and see if that Stam node

or Exploit would be better

[visual stream]

Based

[zinc talon]

it should, yea

just remember, you block 360* around you when you hold your guard

you'll block stuff directly behind you

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-deployed-alien-cat-gif-10264569409756179931

[sullen forge]

@rocky nacelle Mental break of darktide, from the Zombies camo grind

[zinc talon]

but blocking to the sides or back, takes like 3 to 5 times the stamina per hit

[copper hawk]

mobility is the dump stat

yah no problem

if u need help at all just ping me

[zinc talon]

I'm up to where a crusher overhead only costs me 20% of my stam bar, maulers just 10%

[rocky nacelle]

fix my marriage

[zinc talon]

but I sure can't take them unless I'm facing em

[rocky nacelle]

thx

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/211203478284926976/1284301038144196648/caption.gif

[visual stream]

I did not know that one

[sturdy abyss]

Yeah I know, I just mean I don’t have it all the way empowered so damage is only at like 60% until I hit mastery level 19 and empower it

[zinc talon]

and there's also this

[elfin steppe]

That's probably only for space marines.

[zinc talon]

at least with the shield, you weren't asking

[sullen forge]

I started abusing the shit out of that btw

lmao

[zinc talon]

but planting with the slab, doesn't start when the shield hits the ground or you stop moving or whatever

[candid shuttle]

What's the dump on bolter?

[zinc talon]

you're invulnerable from the first rendered frame of the action

[visual stream]

"NOOOO NEVER SHIELD PLANT "

[sullen forge]

Hear me out

Parrying

[plain dragon]

[sullen forge]

:)))

[zinc talon]

so you can active block with plant if you simply take into account that split second you're holding guard, you won't be moving

[grand tangle]

hear me out

[zinc talon]

it's almost an incentive not to plant cuz you stay mobile

[candid shuttle]

What's the dump on the bolter

[grand tangle]

dueling sword should have a parry

[plain dragon]

Planting parry is hilarious

[visual stream]

Mobility

[zinc talon]

mobility, or sometimes cohesion depending on talents

[visual stream]

Or stability if you're a mobility nut Ig

[zinc talon]

err collateral

[elfin steppe]

You think the guardsman have time for this shit?

[spare talon]

if they kneecap it sure
in its current state, absolutely not

[zinc talon]

that's why they get flashlights

[plain dragon]

Yes. Weapon maintenance is literally part of imperial religion

[grand tangle]

it makes a lot more sense for dueling swords to have parries than for catachan knives to

[zinc talon]

dense liquid state batteries, rough optics that aren't much more than a dot on glass

[plain dragon]

An upset lasgun will kill you far before the techpriest serving as a quartermaster ever will

[zinc talon]

very blocky and hard to dent or bend

cuz they're idiots

and they're overworked

[spare talon]

catachan knives dont have parries tho

[grand tangle]

they're all knives