zealot-class

[jagged cradle]

Good stop being a shame already

You can’t let a console player be better

[south grove]

I think I forgot how to play

I forgot my darktide bindings

[jagged cradle]

Noob

[south grove]

grail

unholy grail

we were missing a plasma gunner

but it is what it is

[jagged cradle]

You are the plasma gunner

[vernal terrace]

Yes

[south grove]

sold my plasma

[fleet zealot]

niche but very good at what it does

you kinda have to take throwing knives to offset it's weakness

[vernal terrace]

What if it doesn’t happen

Hard stuck tintin

[fleet zealot]

but since throwing knives has the best path in the game (talent second wind, and the crit talents for finesse weapons) it's something you should get used to anyways

[grand tangle]

does dodging by sprinting not trigger buffs when you dodge an attack?

[fleet zealot]

no because it's not the same mechanic

the sprinting dodge is automatic evasion of gunfire while sprinting at an angle, or various buffs like psyker's empathetic evasion

[south grove]

it'll happen

[fleet zealot]

to get the dodge triggers, you have to actually use dodge itself

[jagged cradle]

Why?

I thought that was your favorite

[spare talon]

im just using evis 15

is it really that hard for people to believe you can learn how to fight them lmao

[hard nexus]

u didn’t hit the head once

holy noob

[spare talon]

i think you should fall into a vat of acid

[mystic ether]

Fast enough, this time, Batman.

[hard nexus]

you

[spare talon]

yall are so mean to me

[copper hawk]

Bat of acid

[hard nexus]

just can’t handle my swag

[copper hawk]

What kind of swag

[hard nexus]

dog woman swag

[copper hawk]

They grow up so fast

[south grove]

I've only actually used it 12-13 times

[sterile stone]

Wise words from a wise man

Realize that half the people alive are really stupid

Then realize theres a percentage of them in that that are even dumber

[hearty tinsel]

That's no way to talk about Ogryns

[sterile stone]

Ogryns aren't dumb

They're just

Special 🙂

[hearty tinsel]

Enthusiastic.

Today I saw an Ogryn with like, a grilled rat? or something hanging off its belt. Amazing drip, lol

[sterile stone]

We need a commiar cosplay for ogryns

Just to see if it hits different from the dog water that Vet's call a commisar outfit

[jagged cradle]

Damn

[sullen forge]

I feel like making *orn slightly upset when he sees me use an Evis, @hard nexus I DEMANDETH a perfect strike build

Doesn’t matter Mk3 or 15

[merry flume]

the standard piety build noob

[hard nexus]

use a mk3 so u can despair over how bad it is

[sullen forge]

Suggested Curios?

[median steeple]

erfec trike

[hard nexus]

idk i just run all toughness, with
3x toughness
3x hp
2x gunner res
1x of whatever

[sullen forge]

Noted

[hard nexus]

its what i run on all zealot builds (except marty obv)

[sullen forge]

I tend to do 2x Tough 1x HP with 3x Tough/HP 2x Stam Regen 1x Gunner Res but that’s for Vet

And it does work

[hard nexus]

u dont need stam regen on zealot

epic mistype

[sullen forge]

Also the fuck was the combo on mk3 again

Horde and Single

Etc

[hard nexus]

#gameplay-help message

read this

[hard nexus]

single target is just revved h1, or light spam for l1 and l4

[merry flume]

mfs will be like "i need a build" and it's literally just this

[hard nexus]

LOL

can we get this pinned

[merry flume]

no reddit gold

[hard nexus]

there u go

[sullen forge]

You’re telling me the Mk3 has like

A shit ton of horde clear options

[hard nexus]

its got 2

and the horde clear sucks

[sullen forge]

Sad

[merry flume]

no it doesn't its just not op

[sullen forge]

I was about to say I just really enjoy melees that feel fluid

[hard nexus]

H1 L2 L3 PA L3 L4 repeat

or

[sullen forge]

Flowing between like

[hard nexus]

PA L repeat

[sullen forge]

Each attack type

[hard nexus]

no

it sucks

h1 will kill

ONE

groaner

revved will kill

2!

[sullen forge]

One

HOLY!

[hard nexus]

WITH BUFFS

[sullen forge]

WITH BUFFS!?

https://tenor.com/view/nintendo-switch-baahh-tada-hi-gif-12601447

[hard nexus]

h1 does pathetic damage

[quick fog]

Is the other career ability for toughness worth it?

[hard nexus]

wdym?

[sullen forge]

Blazing Piety

[quick fog]

Yeah

[sullen forge]

That or Book

Oh Blazing

No

Never touch that

[hard nexus]

its fine

[sullen forge]

Always do the Crit one

[quick fog]

Idk I just got back into dt

[hard nexus]

some builds can use it, but you only take the first subnode, the second subnode is bad

[quick fog]

And there was an ability similar to saltzpyres warrior priest where he pushes enemies back

And grants overshield

[hard nexus]

thats veteran

voice of command

[quick fog]

Theres an F ability that does that for Zealot

Enemies bow down and teammates get an overshield

[obsidian prairie]

Thats Chorus

The middle ability

[quick fog]

I still don't know the names but yeah

[quick fog]

Last time I played there was only one ability so

[spare talon]

lmao

[chilly vault]

peak

[vale carbon]

on thammer, shock and awe sounds interesting, is it worth or not?

[placid fiber]

No, for the thammer you want Thrust and either Headtaker or Slaughterer

[vale carbon]

yeah, looking at the pinned stuff

it just sounded novel

[placid fiber]

A lot of blessings may sound kinda neat, but, in practice they just suck

[north sedge]

Shock and blah

[spare talon]

not at all

its basically a roundabout way of more cleave

[brisk raft]

Maybe if it was straight up cleave and lasted longer?

[north sedge]

Even then slaughterer is right there

[brisk raft]

Imagine a charged up Thammer that can hit multiple elites

[placid fiber]

I would be the ironhelm+

[spare talon]

instead of increasing how much cleave you have
it decreases the cleave cost of the enemies you hit, therefore making your cleave stretch further
but not only do the best blessings make the weapon deal fucktons more damage, they also give them more cleave anyway
AND thunderhammers cleaving attacks kinda have really high cleave anyway

so realistically
shock and awe does literally nothing useful

[brisk raft]

It's a shame, I liked Ironhelm now it's overshadowed by Crucis with its heavy overhead change

[ornate bone]

infiltrate krak

https://tenor.com/view/grenade-german-ww2-wehrmacht-granate-gif-19355339

[placid fiber]

I mean... the crucis is better for single target damage <.<

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/potoo-bird-calling-call-dubsurgeon-gif-22981826

[ornate bone]

what a wacky ass fish

[sullen forge]

I love this bird

[brisk raft]

I suggest they change it so its kills actually suppress enemies in a radius, thus Shock&Awe

[brisk raft]

Even spamming Heavies its as good at horde clear

[brisk raft]

If you're brave enough...

[placid fiber]

Not quite exactly, but, it is decent at it at least. The ironhelm just can do what it always did when they made it better <.<

[sullen forge]

No

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/black-kid-oh-shit-omg-i-cant-blown-away-gif-10656319

crusher when I kill a poxwalker

[placid fiber]

Followed by one of them getting up and killing the smyker

[ornate bone]

real and true real and true real and true real and true real and true

[brisk raft]

"MF used a fully charged Thrust overhead on a Poxwalker!

I ain't messing with this freak!"

[placid fiber]

@spare talon Cole, I have an arguement for why I think poxwalkers are the good guys actually. Tell me what you think: "They kill a ton of smykers." Just think about how many times you see a psyker get killed by em, they're doing holy work

[spare talon]

real and true

[brisk raft]

It's still funny how they get up right after getting knocked down sometimes

[placid fiber]

It's that inner drive that they have to kill a smyker. And when one isn't there they're so mad they attack the nearest person

[obsidian prairie]

How did you spend the nights after doing skybound avatar

I have literally nothing to do

[brisk raft]

Also what is this Grim Protocols update about?

[brisk raft]

Havoc mission related?

[spare talon]

well i planned to make sublime spoonfuls but i kept fucking up and ended up not caring to fix it

[sullen forge]

What is he cooking

[obsidian prairie]

Oh fuck right those

uhhh

shit

[spare talon]

huge huge huge item

4 extra actions
can be spammed

[gusty orbit]

redefining meta

[spare talon]

hit them with the sans ultimate move
and just never let it be their turn

[obsidian prairie]

How do you craft them? Cook all food then use the silly fish or whatever?

[sterile basalt]

Turning veteran’s best melee into this is a genuine achievement

[spare talon]

once you cook everything yeah

[obsidian prairie]

Well I'm fucked then

[spare talon]

then just go cook some of the other good ones

i think the hex cure one can be bought with just money

and you can spam cook those

cuz they also give 100 mp to everyone

i just made like 50 of those and stopped caring about mp for the rest of the game

[placid fiber]

No... don't give mp to the smykers...

[spare talon]

could also make like amber stew

[spare talon]

which is a phys charge to the entire party

[remote lark]

cole ur a big noob

biggus noobus

[ornate bone]

ok budget cica

[remote lark]

biglius noblius

[spare talon]

was part of my initial setup for charadrius to take out as much of his health in the first turn which left him with like 1/4th bty the end

@obsidian prairie

[obsidian prairie]

I've been reading

[spare talon]

cuz strohl synth is fucking

[placid fiber]

I was gonna say cica v2.0, but, this works as well lol

[spare talon]

what

like stupid damage numbers

[remote lark]

mrow

[spare talon]

casual 30k damage

[ornate bone]

temu cica

[placid fiber]

dollar store cica

[ornate bone]

pepsi cica

[placid fiber]

dr thunder cica

[obsidian prairie]

Coliseum gauntlet battle when I cast miracle cirque for 30 battles straight

[sullen forge]

He managed

to collat snipe me

3 times

I just fucking left

[spare talon]

did not care for those
i just set it to easy and nuked all for 30 turns
not wasting mp items on that

[sullen forge]

after that I wont lie

lmao

[obsidian prairie]

(miracle cirque is the aboslutely free morning star)

[spare talon]

i tried that there with junah but it didnt kill everything so i didnt bother

[obsidian prairie]

I have it doing like

[sterile basalt]

Huh

[obsidian prairie]

1.5k damage

[spare talon]

mc prince did with a normal cast so i just did that

[hard nexus]

darktide reference

[placid fiber]

Darktide? In this discord server?! HERESY!

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-chokes-choking-ada-wong-gif-26380793

[brisk raft]

Kinda hawt ngl

[placid fiber]

Cole, it's just Meow... not a smyker...

lol I beat these 2 bosses so closely together in rogue legacy 2

[sullen forge]

@hard nexus is it normal to underperform at first with the Mk3

cause I wont lie I am having fun but holy shit

[hard nexus]

uhm idk

mk3 kinda sucks

so probably

when ur good with it then yeah

[sterile basalt]

Yes because it’s ass

[hard nexus]

i can easily drop like

[sterile basalt]

[hard nexus]

600-800k damage on a high spawn game

but if ur not super used to the moveset and it intracacies

then yeah

[hard nexus]

:(

[sterile basalt]

The highest dps combo is PA + light sweep loop

[hard nexus]

for hordes !

not single target

[sterile basalt]

Which has the same exact cleave damage distribution cap of 4 targets

So ur better off with XV anyway

And single target is inherently much worse than XV

[south grove]

Is using spidey sense a crutch?

[hard nexus]

not really

[sterile basalt]

Do u need it

[south grove]

hearing impaired

[placid fiber]

I mean... silent specials are a thing, so no lol

[sterile basalt]

No big deal, use as u please

[south grove]

used it for one game and I no longer get trapped silently

[hard nexus]

mk3 has the slight advantage of having much faster single target than the mk15

l1 and l4 can do a lot of damage

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j2B28Vcao8HeHnYv0?invite=cr-MSxBd1AsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

like so

[grand tangle]

how do i use the slug shotgun

[sullen forge]

let me guess

if I swap to MK15

[sterile basalt]

Sorta
But it only sometimes matters for lower health enemies

[hard nexus]

@sullen forge

[sullen forge]

its suddenly going to be better

[hard nexus]

ohg ur here already

[sterile basalt]

Probably

[hard nexus]

but

[sullen forge]

I left a match

another one

[sterile basalt]

But

[sullen forge]

take a guess why

[hard nexus]

that clip is the main strengths of the mk3

[sullen forge]

out of the plethora of why I tend to leave

[hard nexus]

smite psyker or ds4 zealot

[sullen forge]

this one might shock you

Close...

[hard nexus]

plasma vet

[sullen forge]

More so annoying reasons

[hard nexus]

spam pinging

[sullen forge]

How can you annoy Gale

No

[hard nexus]

hmrhm

[sullen forge]

A recent addition

thats your hint

Green Flames!

[hard nexus]

uhmmm

ohhh

flamer explosions

[sullen forge]

^

They kept fucking shooting flamers near me

[sterile basalt]

Oh lol

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177111856813449250/1298248978449563709/togif-4.gif

[sullen forge]

like my

[hard nexus]

anyway watch that clip i posted and thats how u play mk3 evis

[sullen forge]

I literally slowly turned to look at them

when they did it

for the 5th time

I was like

SURELY

they just must be panicking

[sterile basalt]

3 vets with Lasguns?

[sullen forge]

No a fucking

Psyker and a Veteran

just Kept

shooting their tanks when I rushed them down

[sterile basalt]

I’ll be fr

Don’t rush flamers

Let them come to u first then rush

[grand tangle]

yeah just knife them

[placid fiber]

Question: how tf do you do the archery target challenge in rogue legacy 2? The lowest time I've gotten is like... 40 some seconds... the barbarian one I like immediately understood, but, I have no clue how to do the archer one :/

[obsidian prairie]

I don't remember which is archer

[placid fiber]

1 sec, I'll show u the arena area

[sullen forge]

See thats the thing

you're asking me

NOT

to play Zealot

when you say that

[hard nexus]

wanna play me mk3 u mk15 and see who does better

?

i can play for a couple

[brisk raft]

I'm usually very confident in rushing Flamers and meleeing them...

Until one kicks me in the nuts and I lose all confidence

[sullen forge]

I play like a meth head as Zealot and will immediately rush the nearest target

[ornate bone]

real and true²

[remote lark]

i might get crucified by this but

[placid fiber]

Rip lady faye lol

[remote lark]

i feel like blood redemptino has more value than it seems

[sterile basalt]

No, I’m telling u to not dumb rush everything u see

[hard nexus]

it sucks :3

[ornate bone]

u sucks

[sullen forge]

You will not deny me this satisfaction

[remote lark]

i think blood redemption helps alot with preventing chip damage though

[sullen forge]

Dies

[hard nexus]

not really

[remote lark]

:(

[hard nexus]

RESPOND TO ME

[sullen forge]

Anyways yeah im down to do a match if you want @hard nexus

[hard nexus]

UR IGNORING ME

ok

[south grove]

too many points down

[hard nexus]

yippee!

[remote lark]

keep ignoring them

[sullen forge]

I HATE YOU

[sterile basalt]

It’s ok

[hard nexus]

ill play one

[remote lark]

it costs 1 point

silence

[sullen forge]

I can probably do multiple but like

Idfk

lmao

[hard nexus]

i am eepy

so

[hard nexus]

only one

[hard nexus]

thats 2 points down

backstabber then that

[sterile basalt]

This talent is only rly for non-crit weapons tbh

[hard nexus]

i managed to do 3k unyielding damage with mk3 evis on l1 once

[placid fiber]

@obsidian prairie This is the arena for it

[sterile basalt]

Like, if u play chainaxe/hammer

[sullen forge]

🗣️

I'll try Mk15

[sterile basalt]

Or u have no crit chance whatsoever

[hard nexus]

one shotted a heresy reaper with chastise

[obsidian prairie]

Oh that

[sullen forge]

see how that works

[sterile basalt]

Then u take that

Over scourge

[hard nexus]

kk

[obsidian prairie]

You use platform to get spore procs

[hard nexus]

PA sucks

on it

[sullen forge]

I mean its a Poke

[hard nexus]

basically never use it

[sullen forge]

so yeah I figured

but its there

[obsidian prairie]

I thinl

[placid fiber]

Huh?

[sterile basalt]

It’s a poke that latches

[obsidian prairie]

I don't remember the target layout

[sterile basalt]

So it’s bad

[south grove]

would it really matter?

[sterile basalt]

Push into light

[south grove]

I mean

[sterile basalt]

Don’t do pa

[sullen forge]

@hard nexus Add me btw cause like

If I attempt it with you

my game will fucking explode

[placid fiber]

Oh, that's why my arrow was exploding sometimes?

[sterile stone]

@spare talon Can you do me a favor and keep these lobotomy tier zealots out my match

[obsidian prairie]

Yes

Read

[sullen forge]

idk why Im cursed with crashing when adding people

[remote lark]

@sullen forge inv me too?

[obsidian prairie]

Your platform gives your shots spore burst

[sullen forge]

SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!!!

[placid fiber]

I never looked at the skill's description lol

[sullen forge]

Yeah just toss me an add

[south grove]

2.5% max toughness is... not good no?

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177111856813449250/1298248978449563709/togif-4.gif

[sullen forge]

@remote lark

[hard nexus]

whats ur code

[sterile stone]

It's painful watching a group of 3 zealots just staring at two BoNs and just doing miniscule damage

[south grove]

at least not good enough

[sullen forge]

Check my Bio on Discord

In here specifically

[abstract widget]

perfect strike or rampage for the mk xiv evicirator

[spare talon]

rampage

[south grove]

is rampage power?

I forgot

[hard nexus]

whos prince

[south grove]

it should be no?

[hard nexus]

is that @remote lark

[spare talon]

its coded as power

[remote lark]

yes

[sullen forge]

And my chat is FUCKING BROKEN

[spare talon]

it says damage in the desc but its power/strength so its damage, impact, and cleave

[sullen forge]

YOU KNOW THE BUG THEY SUPPOSEDLY FIXED

[remote lark]

my mouse wont stay in the window

wtf

[hard nexus]

lmfao

peak

[spare talon]

REBOOT YOUR GAME!

[sullen forge]

MALICE

[south grove]

is fatshark stupid

why can't they name their own fucking blessings right

[remote lark]

whar

[spare talon]

how often are tooltips wrong

[south grove]

😭

[sullen forge]

Chat's broken

[south grove]

a lot?

idk actually

[hard nexus]

for mk15 swap elites to carapace

[remote lark]

galeo my knees hurt

[spare talon]

exactly

[sullen forge]

restarting my game

[remote lark]

[sullen forge]

Me when Knee surgery is tomorrow

[remote lark]

nay

something swinging keeps

hitting them

[sullen forge]

istfg

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappi-steam-happi-steamhappy-gif-8354529502529721939

[south grove]

what's a good weapon to practice melee w/

I've been using HSword

dunno if that's a bad habit or not

kinda scared now tbh

[sullen forge]

@hard nexus @remote lark I'll do a match with Zealot to try this out

[sullen forge]

and then go to Vet

cause mandatory vet main match

[remote lark]

i have time for 1

then i give my bf attention

[spare talon]

shock maul is a pretty good one regardless of class

not broken and not bad

[remote lark]

someone said shock maul was the worst last night

[spare talon]

requires actual melee habits to work

[hard nexus]

fart sound

[south grove]

???

[spare talon]

maniac

[spare talon]

poopoo

[south grove]

ik skullcrusher might work

[spare talon]

also put skullcrusher on it

instead of reflex

[south grove]

it's a mid weapon

[hard nexus]

mutated horrors hi shock enclavum barross peak

[remote lark]

agree

[south grove]

everything else outshines it

[sterile basalt]

Ur bad habits are less weapon related and more game sense

[south grove]

it's not bad per say

[south grove]

weapon related is also bad

I'm back to PA spamming

gonna fix everything at once

[sterile basalt]

With what

[south grove]

everything

I sold my knife for now

[remote lark]

i want someone to tell me what my problems are

[spare talon]

tell that to the rashad user who taped down his W key and unbound his dodge continuing to win the game with one hand on his mouse and the other hand jorking it

[fleet zealot]

yea didn't they stealth nerf lightning reflexes

or something

[sullen forge]

That being

[sterile basalt]

Are u practicing veteran or zealot

[remote lark]

dt related

[south grove]

dorn threatened to delete my vet...

so zealot

[spare talon]

LMAO

[fleet zealot]

which sucks cause it's like, one of the few blessings that requires actual mechanics to use

[sterile basalt]

If he was actually playing Rashad I think he’d blow himself up when 3 Dreg ragers and a trapper show up at once

Because he’s gonna get overconfident and pop VoC in the middle of fighting ragers and get immediately trapped

[fleet zealot]

long

[south grove]

so flak elites then?

no idea

I made this maul before asking you guys

:P

[fleet zealot]

call me a gilf
God
I
Love
Ferrets

[sterile basalt]

Play crusher

[spare talon]

at least im playing evis at all
Be grateful.

[south grove]

I genuinely forgot how to operate my computer today so I think I can't start that large yet

[sterile basalt]

Crusher to zealot is what Rashad is to veteran imo

[south grove]

being in the outdoors for 3 days straight really disorients me

[sterile basalt]

All around versatile melee that can fight everything

U don’t get to run away from problems

[spare talon]

no thanks chief

im good

[south grove]

crusher is IJ yes?

[spare talon]

yea

[sterile basalt]

Perks can vary

I run maniac + carapace

Crusher + Boltgun is peak zealot to me

[fleet zealot]

anything

[south grove]

I still can't remember my binding

[fleet zealot]

literally has high enough finesse baseline you can run crit crusher

[south grove]

but the zealot and the psyker had DS4

I used a HS 7

[sterile basalt]

Crusher can work with all 3 keystones

[fleet zealot]

crusher is one of the best weapons, and probably the most flexible when it comes to keystones and what situations it can handle

[sterile basalt]

It depends on how much you want to invest into ur gun

[fleet zealot]

but last time i said it's THE BEST i got flamed on

so now i'm insecure

[spare talon]

the one thing it is subpar at is boss damage but its still decent at that cuz zealot

[sterile basalt]

If u play Boltgun I’d suggest IJ cuz ur prob gonna miss anoint in blood with piety build

[fleet zealot]

idk H1->PA to the head, it's def higher than some other weapons

[south grove]

bpistol

[spare talon]

plus IJ for the dodge distance

[fleet zealot]

like dclaw, heavy sword

[spare talon]

i constantly swap between IJ for dodges and piety for fotf spam

[fleet zealot]

not martyrdom 😦

[spare talon]

piety works for crusher cuz a lot of the single target damage attacks have a shockingly good finesse multi

[spare talon]

EW STINKY

[sterile basalt]

I kinda don’t get what that’s good for on zealot tbh

[spare talon]

[ornate bone]

sick dog

[south grove]

crusher explosion

[ornate bone]

hope he gets better

[spare talon]

crusher activation

larger radius w/ lethal prox

[south grove]

more horde control

[spare talon]

thats the only build i use bistol with on zealot

the only other one is shredderpilled vet lmao

[sterile basalt]

Using it just for that is kinda insane

It’s not even 1m radius increase I think?

[spare talon]

but its funny

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-sad-crying-wipes-tears-wiping-tears-gif-24991919

[spare talon]

i dont have any issues with it cuz crusher kinda handles everything

[sterile basalt]

I think it’s #3 for zealot

[spare talon]

specialists already covered w/knives

[sterile basalt]

Duelling sword
Knife
Crusher

[vague depot]

I still havent gotten used to how free crusher is

[spare talon]

fatshark!!!
GIVE ME MORE LOADOUT SLOTS

[vague depot]

Only been using push attacks for horde clear rn

[vague depot]

Found myself doing activated lights when I panic

[spare talon]

NOT EVEN MODDED AMOUNT IS ENOUGH

[spare talon]

not entirely useless

activated lights have literally infinite cleave

[obsidian prairie]

Real

[spare talon]

like literally the number is just removed and it just doesnt stop unless it hits carapace

[vague depot]

That’s hilarious

I only used it for the stagger though never noticed the cleave

I try to just do l1 h2 loops

[spare talon]

crusher with slaughterer is so balanced

16 kills in 2 swings

[vague depot]

Oh the diagonal light has some good cleave

Damn

I been using exclusively sweeps for horde lmao

[spare talon]

the diagonal lights have the same cleave as the push attack

but only about half the damage and 1/4th of the finesse damage

lol

lmao even

[vague depot]

Alright

So use it only for the squishiest of horde enemies

[spare talon]

real push attack numbers concieved by real fatshark devs

[vague depot]

Or does the power bonuses from slaughterer headcrusher still let it do good damage

[spare talon]

that was more a comparison to how crazy the PA is

[sterile basalt]

Basically

[vague depot]

Ah ok

[sterile basalt]

Push atk + H2 spam

Or

Push atk + [L2 + H1] loop

[fleet zealot]

Activate PA /hj

[vague depot]

I gotta start using push attacks on the crusher more

Activated push attack?

Is that for horde or single target or both

[fleet zealot]

I never see it mentioned so it’s prob not that good

[spare talon]

having like 30+% multiplicitive damage plus 80% debuff damage which is ALSO multiplicative to power and damage bonuses is what causes 13 kills in a single swing raw

[fleet zealot]

It’s just normal PA that i hear mentioned

[vague depot]

Ah ok

[fleet zealot]

Epiccoke

[spare talon]

activated push attack is more of just a damage bump, more noticable against armor

[sterile basalt]

I verified with kuli, skullcrusher is not multiplicative x1.8

[vague depot]

For armor I just do activated heavy bc loop

[sterile basalt]

It’s just all sources get +80% damage (additive with +damage)

[spare talon]

is it really
that info was FROM that

[sterile basalt]

Still insane number, but not as crazy as believed

[spare talon]

maybe im just restarted and read that wrong

[sterile basalt]

I kinda spread that misinfo

It’s +80% damage at best

[spare talon]

instead of being rediculously insane
its now
rediculously insane

thats still a LOT

[sterile basalt]

But it’s still really good

[spare talon]

especially cuz its basically active most of the time cuz youre using THE stagger weapon

[sterile basalt]

I run grievous wounds on it still

I’m debating if I want to drop that

Grievous wounds allows u to put crusher into medium stagger (lasts longer)

[vague depot]

What’s the best crusher combo against carapace

[bitter anvil]

Charge attack

Then beat the shit outta it

Repeat when it getting up.

[sterile basalt]

Empower, H1, follow up with L2 + PA + H1

Empower H1 with grievous wounds gives the longest lasting stagger

FotF helps a lot but u only get to use twice against a big crusher wave unless u take piety

[vague depot]

Never thought about crit crusher

I just run martyrdom

[wind dagger]

am i the only one that has a hard time figuring out when to use stealth unless it's to res a teammate or do an objective

[sterile basalt]

It’s very good but it takes away points from stuff that may matter for ur gun

[wind dagger]

i basically wind up playing like i have no ability for most of the game

[vague depot]

My gun is the bolt pistol

I’m not using it

[sterile basalt]

Then u can run piety

[spare talon]

now thats a thought
had some floating points but i might do that

[vague depot]

Crit crusher has better dps than martyrdom crusher?

[spare talon]

was using the toughness IJ node cuz i had nothing else lmao

[spare talon]

are you using crit cdr?

[jagged cradle]

I think I’m getting old I suck at blops 6

[spare talon]

cuz if you have that
you can basically use it as a "fuck this guy" button and still have it when you need it

[wind dagger]

yea, not having it isn't the problem i just like... forget to use it lol

[sterile basalt]

Piety crusher
Last point goes into either faithful frenzy or desperation

Faithful frenzy if u want to hit faster
Desperation if u want to hit harder

Both are good choices

[spare talon]

frenzy imo just better

keep the 30% atk speed going
big damage lmao

[vague depot]

Generally you can use it when you see something that’s either big or shooting at you from a distance it usually gives good value

[jagged cradle]

Do you use crusher with piety?

[sterile basalt]

Nah trust me desperation can hit insane numbers

And it’s basically always up

[vague depot]

Just make sure you don’t have enemies on you or else you will dump the aggro on your team

They don’t like when that happens

[spare talon]

you can
some attacks have really good finesse on it

activated push attack

[wind dagger]

when you say crusher do you mean the shock maul or am i cooked and ur talking about something else

[vague depot]

Crusher weapon

[spare talon]

the crusher is different from the shock maul

[vague depot]

Shock maul is something else

[jagged cradle]

What would you run on it in this instance?

[spare talon]

.

[vague depot]

It’s like a crusher but made for mall cops

How much crit chance would crusher have if you run the piety build

[hard nexus]

chat

i got outdamaged by malice boy

[sterile basalt]

It also give u weakspot break rager combo (any attack)

[spare talon]

a standard forced crit build would have 30%-60% depending on scourge stacks

[hard nexus]

its so incredibly over

[sterile basalt]

Which is quite nice

[spare talon]

[remote lark]

@hard nexus

[hard nexus]

oh

weird

[remote lark]

how you gonna die and still mog me

[hard nexus]

my scoreboard said higher

[remote lark]

[sterile basalt]

I need someone to test grievous wounds breakpoints

[sullen forge]

She uses the Evis too much

[hard nexus]

wdym

[hard nexus]

lmfao

swag

[jagged cradle]

You should probably just kys it’s less shame

[vague depot]

Insane statement

[remote lark]

oh

actually

i did outdamage meow

[spare talon]

you could just skip to the end and tell them to kill themselves instead of going through this roundabout way

[sullen forge]

honestly it proves how little I play Zealot though

cause I do stupid high Damage with veteran

[sterile basalt]

If I didn’t test it and tell u, u prob wouldn’t know tho

[remote lark]

get meowgged

[spare talon]

stagger testing sounds like actual suicide

literal hell

[remote lark]

maybe your scoreboard discards overkill damage

mine combines them

[sullen forge]

Haha

[sterile basalt]

Nah u only need to check 6 enemies

[sullen forge]

hahaha

ha

[hard nexus]

ah yeah

[sullen forge]

ahhh I want to die

[hard nexus]

mine seperates them

[sullen forge]

I have to test Falter BPs still for those who are curious

[copper hawk]

Noobs

Yah ok NOOB

[sterile basalt]

Don’t test falter, test grievous wounds instead

[remote lark]

https://tenor.com/view/joaquin-phoenix-commodus-gladiator-gif-12708896

[sullen forge]

On veteran...

[sterile basalt]

Actually useful talent vs peak dogshit 90% the time

[remote lark]

meowgged

[wind dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/king-king-baldwin-king-baldwin-4-rikoamv-riko-amv-gif-8479237540916603760

[sullen forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/973634251369095215/1102396490057519165/phantom_bb_jumpscare.gif

[sterile basalt]

Nobody care abt falter not even me

[copper hawk]

Dat my gif

Hands off

[sterile basalt]

I only use falter on shock maul

[copper hawk]

Paws* off

Noob

[sullen forge]

Die

[vague depot]

https://tenor.com/view/my-life-be-shot-failed-basketball-gif-13214316

[sterile basalt]

It’s really really easy

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-wyd-cat-scratching-cat-scratch-cleaning-screen-gif-15994084353171838166

[wind dagger]

would you build crusher normally for this or do piety builds have diff perk/blessing priorities

[remote lark]

blessings only change if shred is an option

i.e. if u take piety u can take something other than shred on ur weapon if it needs crit for adms

crusher doesn't change

[copper hawk]

Nop

Wronge.

[remote lark]

cica >:(

[south grove]

is shock maul a crit weapon?

[remote lark]

tacaxe only takes shred if u dont take piety

does it have finesse

if yes then yes

[south grove]

I may or may not have fucked up

[brisk raft]

How come you two have the same hat?

[remote lark]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-schwarzenegger-flowers-shotgun-surprise-gif-14837606

[copper hawk]

Dis y u will always be in malice, boy

Meowlice boy

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177111856813449250/1298248978449563709/togif-4.gif

[vague depot]

What do you all have your dodge key on

[remote lark]

cica

[copper hawk]

:3

[remote lark]

i will step on u

[vague depot]

I have it on space bar but I’m really starting to consider shift instead

[spare talon]

theyd enjoy that
dont

[remote lark]

i'd enjoy it too

[copper hawk]

=^.w.^=

[wind dagger]

space but every time i talk about my binds on here i'm called a heretic

[copper hawk]

Ur a freal

Freak

[remote lark]

meowzers

[vague depot]

Yea it feels more comfortable since I’m using my thumb but accidentally jumping is a suicidal situation

[modern lintel]

suspect emoji

[copper hawk]

Unbind jump and dodge

[vague depot]

Actually maybe I should rebind my jump key instead

[copper hawk]

Keep dodge on space

Bind jump to left alt

[vague depot]

Yea

[copper hawk]

That's what i dis

[vague depot]

Got it

[copper hawk]

Did

[vague depot]

Ach

[copper hawk]

U NEED to jump exactly in ONE place in this game

[vague depot]

My hands a bit too big

[vague depot]

Vaulting is cool though

[copper hawk]

Did

[wind dagger]

i use sprint/dodge on space, jump on ctrl, crouch on shift

[copper hawk]

Did u just call me..

Small hands..

[remote lark]

false

[vague depot]

No my keyboard is small

[remote lark]

cica

[copper hawk]

Well ud be right they r vry small and slender

[remote lark]

this is why u will always be a bottom

[vague depot]

My hand covers about half of it

[copper hawk]

So alt works fine

[remote lark]

i jump to overhead bulwarks over their shield

[vague depot]

Is this actually a thing

What direction does the swing have to be

[remote lark]

overhead

i can do it sometimes

[vague depot]

Do you need to be a ogryn or can a normal human do it fine

[remote lark]

i only play zealot

[copper hawk]

I will continue 2 ignore meowlice until they explode from frustration

[vague depot]

Nice

[copper hawk]

I dont talk to noobs

[vague depot]

Crazy work

[remote lark]

cicas trying to make me explode

[vague depot]

Does distance matter

[remote lark]

they're just mad because my hats better

[brisk raft]

Professional blueballing

[vague depot]

Like do I need to hug the shield or something

[remote lark]

i dunno its inconsistent and i dont practice it

[vague depot]

Ah ok

[remote lark]

just go into meat grinder and try

[vague depot]

So just for fun

Alright thanks

[remote lark]

@paper harness would probably know

[vague depot]

I sorta can’t run darktide rn

[remote lark]

but bulwark shield hitbox is bullshit anyway

[vague depot]

Which is horrible timing with the event and all

Probably gonna call a friend to clean my laptop that might fix something

Too scared of breaking something to do it myself

[remote lark]

what did u do

[south grove]

dorn might be dead...

also fuck darktide servers

I was at 26 ms and clutching

then when I started reviving I dc'd

[jagged cradle]

In what way?

[south grove]

death by frustration

wire I'm lonely...

[jagged cradle]

What did you do

Uh huh and

[south grove]

I did nothing

I'm practicing melee in damnation QP

[south grove]

when?

[copper hawk]

Tintin

Ill be on in a bit

Like, an hour

If ur still playing

[south grove]

I'll be

I'm practicing

[wind dagger]

what blessings 4 crusher

i'm assuming thrust and something else

[jagged cradle]

When what?

[south grove]

skullcrusher slaughterer

[south grove]

you've been replaced.

[jagged cradle]

Oh happy for you I’ll just play by myself then

[fleet zealot]

Skullcrusher slaught or slaught thrust

Thrust isn’t that good on crusher

[south grove]

I'm getting manipulated

[fleet zealot]

It is a combo weapon

[south grove]

I can feel it

[fleet zealot]

So it’s not a must have like thammer

[south grove]

too guillible to find out tho

[jagged cradle]

Why would I do that?

Play with cica it’s fine

I’ll just be by myself as I always been

[south grove]

I'm sorry come back...

I won't be mean again

[jagged cradle]

What did I say about saying sorry

And you said you replaced me?

Why would I come back

[south grove]

I'm sorry I didn't

come back

sorry

[jagged cradle]

You really are doing this on purpose

[sterile basalt]

Same perks & blessings

[south grove]

I'm not I'm sorry

please don't get mad

[jagged cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/yap-gif-12747786332838233040

I’ll play when cica gets on

[south grove]

I feel severely hurt

[wind dagger]

so maniac/flak?

[dense field]

That's what abusive relationship looks like

[jagged cradle]

Why’s that?

[jagged cradle]

I’m not abusive???

[spare talon]

i still wouldnt put maniac on melees cuz realistically thats just specialists and dreg ragers'

[south grove]

why does it feel familiar...

[spare talon]

specialists already take 3x melee damage and youre also shooting them a lot of the time anyway

and dreg ragers are like
literally 1 enemy type

and most people shoot them anyway too

[sterile basalt]

I run carapace + maniac

[dense field]

You could be if you'd wanted, you're doing great so far

[sterile basalt]

Maniac gives trapper throwing knife 1 bodyshot and Dreg rager throwing knife 1hs

I think it’s useful

[spare talon]

p sure anoint also gives that too

[sterile basalt]

And Dreg ragers are one of the worst enemies to fight in melee

[jagged cradle]

I’m not that bad of a person I want to try and help if I can

[sterile basalt]

Anoint in blood is active only when ranged weapon is equipped

[spare talon]

yeah which is why most people tend to avoid that in general and shoot them

[sterile basalt]

It doesn’t work when you have melee weapon out

[spare talon]

well that tells you how often i make use of that interaction

lmao

[south grove]

cryptids

I must find them

[spare talon]

but also in this specific case of ragers on crusher in melee combat
its literally the crusher
you can send them on their ass instantly

with a lot of weapons yea it sucks to fight them but this is not one of those weapons

[dense field]

I'm sure you are

[dense field]

Not a bad person

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/uni-cat-meme-gif-4079065483340370050

[sterile basalt]

I don’t remember flak notably changing dps for crusher

[jagged cradle]

I should get in dt now that tin is in a mission

[spare talon]

tbh nothing really changes its output significantly

[south grove]

barreled after 20 seconds

[dense field]

death

[spare talon]

the biggest factor is legit just whether something is staggered or not

[south grove]

new record

[sterile basalt]

Grievous wounds

Trust

[south grove]

they can't be serious

[spare talon]

i recall joshos schizo cursher guide

[opaque island]

whats the crusher good at doing again?

[south grove]

did josho disappear?

[spare talon]

and the fact that the section was literally titles

Breakpoints (and the lack thereof)

[south grove]

haven't seen them in a while

[opaque island]

I meant to reply to your second message

but this works too

[sterile basalt]

Everything except boss damage where it’s mediocre

[dense field]

Yes

[spare talon]

basically everything

except boss damage like path said

but its not terrible at that cuz its still in the hands of zealot

[opaque island]

I thought its whole thing was that it staggers EVERYTHING (except bosses)

[spare talon]

that is

and it has the blessing that debuffs them for up to +80% more damage taken whilst staggered

and then they gave it slaughterer

[opaque island]

I see

[spare talon]

whoops!

[south grove]

lacerate flesh tearer

[spare talon]

16 kills in 2 swings

[dense field]

I should use crusher more

[spare talon]

whoops!

[south grove]

erm...

[sterile stone]

"Hey guys, stay away from ledges when a plogryn or chaos spawn comes in"

[south grove]

actually

[sterile stone]

"No"

[spare talon]

dont you dare

[sterile stone]

Gets launched off railing

[spare talon]

i know what youre going to say

[south grove]

that was 13 kills

[spare talon]

its so miniscule

it doesnt matter

[sterile stone]

[south grove]

the 3 kills from before

doesn't count

[spare talon]

it was 1

1 kill from the gun
2 from the first swing
13 from the second

you tried to correct me but you did it wrong

[south grove]

@jagged cradle I hate you I hate you I hate you

[sterile basalt]

Actually

I should prob swap carapace to elite on crusher

[spare talon]

it was 15 kills in 2 swings but i didnt want to bother pointing that out

[jagged cradle]

What did I do???

[sterile basalt]

Maniac + elite sounds better

[south grove]

thought the ranged kill faded out

[sterile basalt]

I don’t think the 15% damage loss vs carapace matters that much

[spare talon]

i dont think it did

but if it did

that just proves my point more

[spare talon]

also you said 13 kills when i said 2 swings

cuz the first swing is important for skullcrusher for the second

[south grove]

I am hallucinating

[spare talon]

yes

[south grove]

I need vicodin

[frosty herald]

Im going to make sure rinda is nothing but an alive pile of flesh after im done with her

[south grove]

freak

certified freak

[sterile basalt]

U wot mate

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/super-janemba-janemba-demon-anime-fusion-reborn-gif-8745369643042905872

[south grove]

@jagged cradle gunlugger

no ammo for us

[jagged cradle]

Mhm he’s gonna get sniped immediately

So dw

[dense field]

You probably move faster so

[misty nova]

Good

[sterile basalt]

Gunluggers are weird

[south grove]

@jagged cradle are we on NAE?

ughhhghhh

[jagged cradle]

Yeah??

[delicate shadow]

if zealot is a melee class then why am I able to run ahead, collect literally all the ammo on the map and magdump my bolt pistol into the air and no one can stop me hmm?

[winter cobalt]

I agrred. The 60 - 70ish round of bolt pistol isn't enough to satisfy my dakka addiction. So I have to collect more ammo

[dense field]

Checkmate, atheists

[ornate bone]

blows up barrel with faith

[frosty herald]

Do you know when the grim protocol devblog is coming?

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

The pub experience.exe

[delicate shadow]

somewhere between now and 2026

(I have no idea)

[jagged cradle]

Where do you want to go then west?

[south grove]

are you east or west

I have to learn east technically

[jagged cradle]

I’m east

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/yv-yvxol-bruh-scream-bruhmoment-gif-26196685

[south grove]

so yea east it is

[delicate shadow]

imagine being east

this post brought to you by west gang

[jagged cradle]

Boooo

[spare talon]

this one was yet another instance in the recent past where i first hear about a fatshark annoucement from zealot chat
wild lmao

[vale carbon]

so crucius is the hammer that puts all it's power on one enemy right?
what are the arguments for using it over the other, because that just feels like overspecialization

[sterile basalt]

Crucis has better light atks for single target and easier heavy atk loop for horde clear

[delicate shadow]

you'd think I'd be more informed but I'm fucking terrible at keeping up with stuff lmao

[sterile basalt]

And crucis hits a bit harder on empowered attacks

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j3PqRh6yXaunM9PbX?invite=cr-MSxQYjIsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

gunner res

is just

[sterile basalt]

Ironhelm special attacks can still only hit 1 single elite/special

[hard nexus]

so

bad

[vale carbon]

well i've just been using ironhelm for mastery

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j3Q3RHvamjF3gHx1U?invite=cr-MSxUVEksMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[delicate shadow]

yeah that gunner res really got in the way of you getting martyr stacks

[vale carbon]

and i remember the crucius being absolute dogwater before

[hard nexus]

i forgot to swap my curios

its IJ