zealot-class

[south grove]

what happened?

[sterile stone]

No one knows better

Than the guy who dedicated his entire personality to being a evis user

[plucky gate]

oh i remember this
this was back when 3 ticks of fire would just kill you

lmao

[stone fern]

omg why did you not hit the crusher 3.5 times and save the rest for the rager

you're being wasteful!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[plucky gate]

i remember when people getting revived on fire would just instantly die

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

Snoodle did that 2 frog once

And instantly killed him

[placid fiber]

is this for real fixed, or is it fatshark's version of "fixed"

[south grove]

idk

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-52-1-5-10-patch-notes/100887

[paper harness]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/solo-speedrun/100864?u=dornivanotic

[south grove]

LMFAO

[copper hawk]

Block efficiency stamina stealth zealot

Ffs

[south grove]

@paper harness

[placid fiber]

[south grove]

is this real?????

[paper harness]

no comment lol

[dark spire]

Imma queue up as stealth zealot this instant to please you

[placid fiber]

Like... I put +2 stamina on my knife to see what it was like to have 1 stamina curio... but I still had 25% flak on for my 2nd perk

Still block efficiency stamina stealth zealot?!

God, that sounds horrible

[plucky gate]

that's for 0 kills solo speedrun

walking sim

[paper harness]

i wil

win

[copper hawk]

Yah dont even play at that point

I think id use my chorus build for solo

For funsies

[placid fiber]

I mean... +2 stamina with stamina regen on my curios was eye opening when I was using the knife

[quiet heath]

I mentioned it when Strawhat dropped the announcement, it's been added and he said it's on their radar

[distant lagoon]

The catgirl we needed, but did not deserve

what is your opinion on health bar mod

i start to think it makes game much easier

[placid fiber]

If anything it literally gives you a tool to know when an enemy isn't dead

Other than auto double tapping

and watching the kill feed

[distant lagoon]

well yeah, which is kinda strong

and generally makes bad visibility non-issue

[violet hornet]

Makes not having your kills stolen easier lol

[distant lagoon]

like when there are flames ev erywhere

[distant lagoon]

Also stealing kills

[violet hornet]

And makes it much easier to judge when you've fired the flamer enough to stop and let targets burn out with the dot

[violet hornet]

Why yes ofc lmao

[sterile stone]

@frosty herald Stop being poor and get on zombies

[placid fiber]

Kill stealing? Mfs I'm trying to make sure the enemy is dead... if my allied killed it then nice, I had to put less effort into it

[distant lagoon]

exactly, all those things make game easier

[sterile stone]

We got camos to grind

[placid fiber]

Kill stealing is only something when ur chasing gold numbers lol

[distant lagoon]

everyone gansta until smite soyker comes in

[placid fiber]

I honestly don't care who kills the enemy, I just want the enemy dead lol

[violet hornet]

It's not a big deal but it definitely feels bad to do 95% of a crusher's hp to have a plasma vet last hit it with their first single uncharged shot

[placid fiber]

knowing my randos are competent enough to target the high priority targets is nice

[violet hornet]

I'd take them competing for priority targets over ignoring them any day

[placid fiber]

Same

I've dealt with the latter end of that so many fucking times...

sniper? all 3 randos ignore it and I have to use my autopistol to snipe it

while 2 people get downed

from it

[dark spire]

Only scenarios where "kill stealing" is relevant

[violet hornet]

I think it falls into the same category as leaving a staggering target that's clearly about to die from a brain burst for the psyker that's bursting it rather than killing it first

[placid fiber]

the former is you have to kill them, the latter is you or your allies for it

right?

for the latter one

[dark spire]

It's worded so weirdly that I cannot tell to be honest.

[placid fiber]

I can't remember tbh lol

[dark spire]

Lets pretend they are outside of coherency

[placid fiber]

I'm still in the mindset: I want that high priority target dead yesterday, so I don't care if they killed it lol

[dark spire]

Yeah I agree

[placid fiber]

Once you've had enough terrible randos, you start seeing the brighter side of them actually targeting enemies lol

[plucky gate]

Psyker with the talent has to kill, grants to allies when they do

[dark spire]

I'd rather have randoms who do proper target prio than randoms chasing scoreboard

[placid fiber]

^

[spare talon]

Both you have to kill them
Second one reduces allies cd too

Ogryn one is the one where any kill reduces your own

[placid fiber]

Ah

Good to know

[placid fiber]

Honestly I prioritize specials and elites enough that I'm probably giving randos tons of cdr with that on my psyker lol

It's just sad you have to use brain burst or smite to even get that

[plucky gate]

me taking smite to never use it

[placid fiber]

I take brain burst when I want that, since I at least have a use for that

Smite... I just don't want to use

[violet hornet]

I was so thankful when I finished that psyker penance and never have to take smite again lol

[placid fiber]

being able to pop snipers easily from a distance is nice

[violet hornet]

hides my trauma staff

[plucky gate]

the best use for smite is waiting for someone to die, and then smiting the enemies near their dead body to show that you could've saved them but chose not to

[placid fiber]

It's about sending a message

[visual stream]

And then dying to exactly one bruiser after fifteen seconds of looping smite

[violet hornet]

I do that with flamer inadvertently, but it has more to do with me only pulling it out once I feel like the horde is too much for me, and not too much for the rest of my team lol

[spare talon]

At a doctors appointment and I answer a question they ask and one of them looks at the other with a face

[frosty herald]

either get me gamepass or zombies

im not paying for both

[violet hornet]

Any time I used smite a single bruiser would crawl out of a drainpipe behind me and spank me right on the cheeks

[visual stream]

[dusky moon]

idk if number 12 works or not

[visual stream]

"Do you enjoy hurting small animals"

"Yes"

[red swift]

New difficulty? Ok I'm back now

Hey guy's what's up it's me it's ya boi

[frosty herald]

ok havok sounds like cancer

[dusky moon]

new diff?

[frosty herald]

each tier a new negative modifier

so good luck on 40 with so many debuffs you die from walking

[dusky moon]

tf are yall on about

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-sunglasses-book-reading-gif-17804335886508438673

[merry flume]

i miss the vermintide "die and stay dead rest of the game" modifier

[sullen forge]

Havoc more like time to solo and call players bad at the game

[hearty nebula]

yo???

havoc looks kind of sick ngl

[sullen forge]

Peak modifier perma death

[paper harness]

no map selection or modifier

[sterile stone]

Bruh it's like $10

[paper harness]

[sterile stone]

You can't be this damn cheap

[dusky moon]

i dont see havok

[south grove]

https://tenor.com/view/zazu-zazucoin-gif-11106189900355555271

[frosty herald]

10 a month

[sterile stone]

Don't you have a job

[spare talon]

Wait they just announced it? This early?

[sterile stone]

You can't be this financially irresponsible

[south grove]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introduction-to-havoc-game-mode-dev-blog/100893

who deleted it

I didn't

[dusky moon]

is it just an announcment? like its coming, or its here?

[violet hornet]

O fuck

[dusky moon]

also, idk if this works

[sullen forge]

Havoc is probably going to be the new HISTG-

[sullen forge]

Excuse me

[violet hornet]

Posted 11 minutes ago that's some fresh ass post

[paper harness]

it is worse chaos wastes

[hearty nebula]

thank fucking god

getting knocked out of power sword special was SO annoying

[frosty herald]

Thank god

[south grove]

it's just a mod that displays all cosmetic items

[jagged cradle]

Just wondering since you know I can’t see

[frosty herald]

Im not

[dusky moon]

yeah, but i dont see that

[south grove]

all around 200~

[frosty herald]

I just dont want another monthly subscription

[sterile stone]

It's time to disable that crunchyroll sub

[south grove]

your mod resets after an update

[hearty nebula]

agreed

Hopefully sometime next year they'll rework the vestures

[dusky moon]

ik, i did it

[south grove]

you need to re-enable it

[sterile basalt]

Havoc might be peak?

[south grove]

it worked for me last update

[hearty nebula]

There was so much other shit wrong with the game honestly now that I think about it

that i'm glad they haven't bothered updating the MTX & didn't make it a focus

[south grove]

maybe it broke???

idfk

[sterile basalt]

Isn’t havoc like

[hearty nebula]

Havoc is not like chaos wastes

[sterile basalt]

Darktide’s version of VT2 weaves

[hearty nebula]

Maybe?

[frosty herald]

Yes but worse

[hearty nebula]

Except not as shit

[fleet zealot]

seems closer to weaves yea

[sullen forge]

Shittier Chaos Wastes so far?

[hearty nebula]

probably

[frosty herald]

Since itl be a debuff per tier

[sullen forge]

Idfk but it looks decent

[sterile basalt]

Nah it’s not rogue type progression

[frosty herald]

And it WILL stack up

[hearty nebula]

VT2 weaves were worse because you had set gear

[sterile basalt]

I think it uses what u have

[hearty nebula]

You couldn't use customized loadouts iirc

[fleet zealot]

since it's additive, it will prob just be enemy damage, enemy stagger resist, enemy hp etc etc

[undone pewter]

It doesn't cost $20 as well lmfaooo

[hearty nebula]

💀

tru

[frosty herald]

No interresting stuff

[sterile basalt]

I wonder how hard it actually would be

As long as it’s not like

[frosty herald]

Like tentacle enemies moebian 21st alongside tzeentch modifier and specialist bosses

[sterile basalt]

Tier40
Every fucking enemy on the map is nurgle blessed

[sterile stone]

Only thing worth looking at is that Mob53 all black armorset

[visual stream]

"We're bringing back elite resistance get fucked"

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-gif-21922016

[violet hornet]

Actually havoc sounds a bit like slay the spire ascension

[frosty herald]

Ive wanted the tzeentch modifer since launch

Its so perfect

[violet hornet]

Smykers are nurgle blessed

[fleet zealot]

it's only 2 mutators and we don't know 2 of them

we know one is infected 21st for sure, and the tentacle explosion one is prob one as well

[naive stirrup]

holy shit new mode

playing that when i get home from voting

[visual stream]

Tentacle explosion?

[south grove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-crazy-cat-zoomies-gif-9877358298643393466

[desert fractal]

man we eating good sheeeeeeeeesh

[frosty herald]

Imagine its actualy armor tier upgrade

[desert fractal]

[visual stream]

Omw to vote after I get Bojangles too

[south grove]

I need to attend lectures

[sterile basalt]

That’s just what they’re working on

[south grove]

tell me about the update

[fleet zealot]

on the event that starts thursday, enemies in the mutated missions can have tentacles on them, if you kill them via shooting, they explode

[sullen forge]

It’s

Probably for the 2nd Anniversary

[hearty nebula]

Adding the Belakor modifier just to spite you

[sterile stone]

Mr.Torgue would cry.

[paper harness]

you want fixed spawns, map selection and modifer selection? no fuck you shit game mode

[stone fern]

holy shit

[sullen forge]

I’m praying we get new weapon marks also

[visual stream]

So flamers v2??

[frosty herald]

Fuck you

[stone fern]

IS THIS CHAOS WASTES?

[visual stream]

Damn

[sullen forge]

No

[frosty herald]

Power greatsword locked behind tier 20

[stone fern]

fuck you take our slop

[sterile stone]

Praying we get new weapons...

[frosty herald]

Melta locked behind tier 30

[sullen forge]

You know DAMN well

[sterile basalt]

There’re new weapon skins (black & bones) from playing the Havoc game mode they just announced (not released yet)

[sullen forge]

New weapons aren’t happening

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[sullen forge]

Marks though

Maybe

[stone fern]

These were chosen based on a few criteria, like zone, mission type, win rate in upper difficulties

[stone fern]

i cant wait to play yard 9999 more times

[south grove]

one day

[visual stream]

Coping that a mechanicus class is coming soon

[frosty herald]

Archivum for a solid year

Actualy no

[south grove]

no

don't

ewww

keep it away

[visual stream]

Lalalala can't hear you

[frosty herald]

Ascension riser hab dreyko and silo cluster

[stone fern]

(Note: Ogryns soon will no longer be suffering from the dark.)
what does this mean?

[sterile basalt]

I’m ngl
I’m a bit worried about the “previous modifiers carrying over to the next & any new havoc orders” part

[stone fern]

ogryn mantling finally fixed?

[sterile stone]

Hab Dreyko ain't even that bad.

[merry flume]

dont ogryns have night vision

[south grove]

imagine the amount of player base that will just shoot people and don't melee

[sterile stone]

Just don't be garbage.exe

[stone fern]

I NEED A MEMETUBER TO EXPLAIN THIS

[undone pewter]

Flashlight on the thugshot

[visual stream]

Explorators exist

[stone fern]

but muh gob smack

[fleet zealot]

Soon as in 2 years

[south grove]

exhibit A: gunluggers

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-transformers-one-megatronus-orion-pax-d-16-gif-1212958912190315010

[stone fern]

were not getting an admech class

[violet hornet]

Just in time for darktide 2

[sterile stone]

There's still those mechanicus portraits that haven't been used.

[south grove]

exhibit B: staff psykers

[stone fern]

admech are either lobotomized or too important to use in battle

[south grove]

exhibit C: recon vets

[visual stream]

I don't think a cool thing shouldn't exist just because people will use it wrong

[fleet zealot]

Yea the portraits follow a leveling style order as well

[frosty herald]

I might need to genuinely build hard into trauma scrier for havok

[sterile stone]

Bingo

[fleet zealot]

This but unironically

[lean cairn]

I'm gonna fucking kill myself

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-shaggy-plsdontsueme-gif-22032683

[south grove]

cool thing can exist

but counterpoint: the good old plasma gun

[frosty herald]

How tf would lights out vent purge work together

[stone fern]

double snipers

double blind

[visual stream]

Here we go with the blue gun gooning

[stone fern]

counterpoint to all of the modifiers: stealth

[south grove]

mf when they hinted at a radium carbine but call it the plasma gun

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-fran-healy-cant-see-i-cant-see-i-cannot-see-gif-27192529

[stone fern]

pretty sure he was joking

[visual stream]

It sounds like one of those people who are just a little clueless but sincere

[south grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUdfgAbvMys)

[paper harness]

no map selection fuck you

: )

[south grove]

https://tenor.com/view/rapping-kanye-west-all-of-the-lights-singing-spitting-rhymes-gif-18497385

[paper harness]

no modifer selection it is stuck behind havoc

[lean cairn]

No map selection, no mutator selection, no modifier selection

[visual stream]

If havoc rolls with commsplex I guess I'm just skipping it until next week

[lean cairn]

Is it seriously 1 mission per week

[frosty herald]

Yes

[south grove]

it's not out yet

[visual compass]

Can't wait for Havoc 40

[stone fern]

hey we know you enjoy the lack of mission selection so now we added another mode with even less mission selection 🙂

[lean cairn]

Why are they doing this before fixing spawns on the main mode

[south grove]

guess what

[visual compass]

This is like Eclipse for Risk of Rain 2

[south grove]

deep dive

[visual compass]

I'm hype

[visual stream]

Also if everyone's is different then like how do pubs work

[south grove]

literally deep dive

without cores

[lean cairn]

Party finder

[paper harness]

clad dm

[stone fern]

[frosty herald]

Havok 40 might be genuinely impossible without an ultra meta build

[undone pewter]

What maps do people die on the most I wonder

[stone fern]

im not falling for this again

[undone pewter]

Gloriana

[visual stream]

This mode was a ploy for us to finally use the party finder

[south grove]

silo cluster

[visual stream]

Chasm Logi and Hab Dreyko probably up there

[plucky gate]

Good thing I have people to play with

[sterile basalt]

Lights out + ventilation purge + pox gas + monstrous specialists + scab faction + mostly melee + no ammo spawns + nurgle’s blessing + infected 21st + waves of poxbursters + waves of mutants + waves of hounds

[visual stream]

You don't have to rub it in

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[frosty herald]

It will devolve into every modifier at once

[plucky gate]

I can't wait for havok level 1 players to ask for level 40 players to host and carry for them

[lean cairn]

I bet it won't be that hard

[frosty herald]

And the game will reach the spawn cap with every horde

[paper harness]

actually more true than you think

[visual compass]

I'd solo

[dusky moon]

did it say when havok comes? i didnt see

[lean cairn]

I wonder how mmt will work with havoc

[visual stream]

Audio issues galore :D

[copper hawk]

mechanicus has like

[visual compass]

It's going to be like Eclipse with Risk of Rain 2

[copper hawk]

a ton of melee units

[undone pewter]

Next update I'm guessing

[copper hawk]

rust stalkers, skitarii

all kinds of shit

[frosty herald]

If its uncapped help us god

[visual stream]

I hope they refine it a lil more before they release that mode

[sullen forge]

Sitting here knowing for a damn Fact you’ll get shitters in your Havoc runs anyways

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-call-of-duty-black-ops-6-zombies-terminus-cinematic-trailer-thinking-cod-black-ops-6-gif-17897772469147714495

[visual stream]

Looks cool though

[lean cairn]

There can only be 2 mutators at once so it can't get that hard

[sullen forge]

It’s the way of the game

[frosty herald]

20 trappers at once

[paper harness]

WHERE IS MAP SELECTIOn

WHERE IS CONDITION SELECTIOn

[sterile stone]

It's just level gated, not dogshit player gated.

[paper harness]

fucking fatshark

[lean cairn]

Me playing my havoc 40 mission just for it to be low intensity mutant waves Comms plex

[frosty herald]

No

[visual compass]

@paper harness I'm actually excited. Some of my AOE builds that scale better with higher enemy density are gonna shred.

[frosty herald]

Its normal and auric maelstrom gated

[visual stream]

I don't think low intensity will be a modifier

[sterile basalt]

No announced date, it’s in testing so probably 2 major patches away

[visual stream]

I hope it won't be

[plucky gate]

the map selection is having other friends at havok 40 with different maps to choose from

get fucked

[sterile stone]

So still dogshit players

[sterile basalt]

Did they say that in the blog post

[copper hawk]

are these changes they made

or are going to make

[lean cairn]

Why not have our havoc rank be tied to the mutators/conditions we choose

[visual stream]

Low intensity is point and click adventure game please don't let it be in Havoc

[frosty herald]

Are going to

[copper hawk]

yam what are they changing

[paper harness]

you think that is going to happen?

[copper hawk]

give me the tldr

[paper harness]

lmao

[copper hawk]

[sullen forge]

Exactly you’re gonna get shitters completely jeopardizing your Havoc runs

[sterile stone]

Honestly Havok mode looks alot like PayDay 2s crime spree mode

[paper harness]

they cannot fix spawns

[frosty herald]

This is legit the beat explenation

[visual stream]

Plasma damage against every armor reduced by 50% :D

[celest jolt]

if the havoc base line isn't hi shock, it's still going to be a snooze fest

[sterile basalt]

I’m pretty sure it’s a mode designed to be played with a pre-made team lol

[visual compass]

I hope they do eventually 😩

[sullen forge]

Exactly what I was thinking I was just afraid to admit it lmao

[visual compass]

I want infinite hordes already

[copper hawk]

will this even matter

[visual stream]

No

[copper hawk]

it already does a shit ton of damage

[sterile stone]

This means your streak can get absolutely fucked by a bad team

Which makes me think alot of people are gonna be closing the app if the run looks like it goes to shit

[visual stream]

It only demotes by one and you have to fail three times

[sterile stone]

To save their streak

[paper harness]

will never happen

[sterile basalt]

Ah ok so even tier40 can only have 2 mutators hmm

[lean cairn]

2 mutators max = snoozefest imo

[copper hawk]

lmfao yeah

[sullen forge]

It’s online so they might implement a punishment to leaving

[copper hawk]

that's the first thing that comes to mind

[south grove]

deep dive without procedural generation

[sterile stone]

This won't stop people from closing app to save streaks

[sullen forge]

But knowing them

[sterile stone]

This happens in tons of games

[sullen forge]

They won’t lmao

[visual stream]

Well mutators are separate from conditions

Which they said will stack

[visual compass]

I personally don't blame my team, if I lose I see it as a challenge to be better myself. It's that always try to clutch mentality.

[lean cairn]

There's gonna be so much alt f4ing to save runs

[copper hawk]

oh that's cool

[undone pewter]

What if they don't allow disconnects this time

[frosty herald]

Every condition at once will happen

[visual stream]

True tho

[copper hawk]

2 mutators w additional conditions is actually nice

[celest jolt]

but not all levels even have conditions and most of them won't be hi/shock

[sterile stone]

Here's the form of thinking you gotta have right

[copper hawk]

i thought they couldn't stack

[visual compass]

There's a lot of good get out of danger builds

[sterile stone]

I'd rather eat that 5-10 min ban penalty than suffer losing my 30 win streak

[visual compass]

I think Havoc is gonna show just how high the skill ceiling can get.

[sterile stone]

Thats the logic alot of people are gonna have

[frosty herald]

You get 3 tries per havok tier

[paper harness]

Mobian 21st locked to havoc, with only a few maps to chose from

[lean cairn]

I'm just waiting for that custom server mod

[frosty herald]

And then your demoted for 1 tier

[paper harness]

This totally is a good system guys

[quasi marsh]

If someone else alt4s and does come back and save the run though will you be upset? I get that kind of spoils the difficulty but man are failed missions a waste of time

[lean cairn]

It's gonna be the worst maps

[dusky moon]

@paper harness i think a few mods in your list are broken rn Enhanced Discriptions doesnt work rn, i dont think

[sterile stone]

Yeah imagine being on your 3rd match and you're about to lose.

[paper harness]

None of the mods in my list are broken

[frosty herald]

People will abuse alt f4

[sterile stone]

Someone who's having a bad streak is just gonna close app

[visual compass]

This I agree with, but I'm still excited to see how the modifiers will inspire people to overcome them.

[sterile stone]

If people abused the no deaths auric penance

[frosty herald]

Wont even blame them

[sterile stone]

People will do it with this

[sullen forge]

No longer will it be

[visual compass]

Also true

[dusky moon]

well, some arent working for me

[frosty herald]

If your at havok 40 and something threatens to ruin it i would abuse the shit out of it

[sullen forge]

Stay out of my Aurics

It will now be

Stay out of my Havocs

[frosty herald]

Get ready for spawning tech and other exploits will be used

[lean cairn]

Are they even gonna do a balance patch

[dusky moon]

same old basic bitch discriptions

[plucky gate]

just win 1 match again after you drop to 39

[sterile basalt]

This for zealot?

[sterile stone]

Not only that

[sullen forge]

Yeah

[frosty herald]

Imagine daemonhosts get added to the weakened boss pool for havok alongside captains

[dusky moon]

yeah

[visual compass]

All the H40 players are gonna just queue with each other

[sterile stone]

But people will purposely join to ruin people's runs

[visual compass]

No point in otherwise

[sterile basalt]

I actually don’t think hand-cannon is necessary for revolver on zealot

[lean cairn]

I'll be 30 years old by the time fatshark release darktide 2 and make it good

[south grove]

enhanced descriptions is working fine for me tho

[sterile basalt]

It only maybe matters for veteran

[sullen forge]

We

Do get

[frosty herald]

Did you run the auto mod load order?

[sullen forge]

10% rending for existing

[south grove]

@dusky moon did you do the file verification

[dusky moon]

yeah

[plucky gate]

I bet h1 players are gonna try to find h40 players to queue with to skip there

[visual compass]

Ugh

[sterile basalt]

Nah I mean like
Hand-cannon doesn’t change breakpoints for zealot revolver I’m pretty sure
Besides hitting crushers harder

[paper harness]

Nobody is seriously going to do these in pubs lmao

[dusky moon]

for steam, or the one the dumbass earlier told me to hit yes on

[frosty herald]

It should be tier based

[visual compass]

I'm gonna do the grind like I did it for Auric Storm Survivor

As well as the 15 consective wins on Damn

[frosty herald]

1-5 with eachother

[south grove]

the dumbass one

[frosty herald]

5-15 with eachother

[plucky gate]

can't wait for the
"lfg h39+ taxi"

[dusky moon]

i did, but i closed it and it worked fine

[frosty herald]

And then its 15-30 30-40

[dusky moon]

like, asked me again, and i said no

[sullen forge]

You will now be cursed with bad players that shouldn’t be lvl 200+

[south grove]

idk then

[visual compass]

I'll just start cheesing with all my broken strats

[lean cairn]

I'm gonna run an RMT business selling havoc 40 for low level players so they can get the max rewards from the season 3 havoc battle pass

[frosty herald]

Ill be cheesing with trauma

[paper harness]

No fixed spawns
No modifier combining so you actually have difficulty through that
No map selection

[dusky moon]

commadores ventures isnt working, and neither is the discription mod

[paper harness]

Fatshark making the worst decisions known to man, shocker

[celest jolt]

it does say more negative modifiers each order and that they are additive

[undone pewter]

This reminds me of when they released the balance patch notes early

[lean cairn]

"what if we had auric maelstrom but with even worse randomness and made the rotation 168 times as long!"

[frosty herald]

Which is ass

[paper harness]

This is just gigs coal

[sullen forge]

I’m more so concerned about genuinely bad players completely trivializing it

[frosty herald]

Toughness regen wont matter

But other modifiers may suck ass

[paper harness]

Why would you want to play lights out dogs

That’s what this will be

[sullen forge]

Masochism

[stone fern]

what about tox lights out

[copper hawk]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3358150469

[plucky gate]

nah
it's basically designed for premades anyways. just deny people if you care that much.
Personally i will enjoy trying to carry my casual friends who barely play through an h40 mission

[sullen forge]

All seriousness it’s going to be so easy to fucking grief Havoc tiers

[frosty herald]

Wait for another modifier

[dusky moon]

bruh, it was updated an hour ago, fuck me

[frosty herald]

Or let us reroll modifiers

[lean cairn]

There's gonna be an extra trappers mutator

All green dogs mutator

Every enemy is a bulwark

[sullen forge]

HISTG with the 8 trappers at once 🗣️🗣️🗣️

[south grove]

haven't checked mine yet

in the lecture hall

[plucky gate]

Does party finder not have a kick feature?

[stone fern]

no

[sullen forge]

Not that I recall no

[plucky gate]

lol

[frosty herald]

No specialists or elites just a non stop horde of never ending poxwalkers

[sterile basalt]

40 nurgle-blessed dreg ragers 🗣️ 💯 🔥

[stone fern]

trauma

[sullen forge]

50 Burgle crushers 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[south grove]

today I'm going to be cutting a dead guy open

[stone fern]

damn nice modifiers

[south grove]

this is going to be my job for the rest of my life

[stone fern]

what if a class existed with limitless scalling on damage?

[south grove]

maybe dead maybe alive people

ughhhhhh

picked the wrong profession

[lean cairn]

If this new event is blessed poxwalkers what does it mean when a green nurgle blessed poxwalker is blessed again

[south grove]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-crazy-cat-zoomies-gif-9877358298643393466

[sullen forge]

Personally I think it would be funny if there’s a modifier that adds one invincible elite that just chases you through the match and acts as a nuisance through the entire run

That’s just me

[lean cairn]

Full auto trappers

[south grove]

I'm assuming still the damage resist and stun immunity it grants

[lean cairn]

Enemies can merge with each other

[south grove]

their nets are single shots no?

[lean cairn]

Sniper trapper

[south grove]

please do not

[south grove]

I refuse

[frosty herald]

this would very quickly snowball with a single downed player

[lean cairn]

They'd have different nets when mutator is on

[sullen forge]

And that’s why it’s funny

The term “grabbing Agro” doesn’t exist with DT players unless they’re running stealth to fuck over their team lmao

[south grove]

Mr X

make it a boss fight actually

an alternative consequence to timer based missions

[sullen forge]

No I purposely want it to just be this fucking impending nuisance you have to cope with

[stone fern]

this dude is outhere playing fallout

[south grove]

you don't keep up = you have to fight the guy off

[dusky moon]

yeah..no pretty descriptions for me

[south grove]

dreg rager (invincible)

whole team fucking dies

[shy river]

Constant corruption damage when out of coherency modifier 😈

[south grove]

please do not

[sullen forge]

🗣️

[sullen forge]

Running Loner Zealot

Letting my team die so they can watch

[undone pewter]

Welcome back space marine 2 lethal difficulty 4.0 patch

[south grove]

I'll have to cope w/ slow ass teammates who depends on me to kill specialists

guess map

I can get most of them suprisingly

clandestium is not on it

[spare talon]

I did this a while ago and got all of them lmao

[south grove]

yea you did

ofc cole would know

only thing I don't know is the bright green one methinks

[spare talon]

That's a map based on where enemies can path to as well

[spare talon]

The tiny one?

[south grove]

and that is probably the tutorial mission

yea

that one

tankred bastion???

[uneven galleon]

How does one memorize them

[south grove]

idk the name actually

[sterile stone]

This, people underestimate the stupidity of the average gamer

[south grove]

I have to think about them like this for specialist spawns

not fluent enough to abuse it like dorn yet

[uneven galleon]

That one trapper behind the door while my back is turned:

[sullen forge]

I think it’s hilarious how 1 invincible enemy can unironically wipe an entire team

Average DT player moment

[sterile stone]

It's all because of altruism.

Altruism kills.

[south grove]

dorn in the clandestium end event spawn room

[hearty nebula]

vt2 has this and it is the most non-threatening thing ever

[frosty herald]

oh god

[sterile stone]

The enemy isn't the threat

[south grove]

dreg rager on a team without knockback

[sterile stone]

It's your teammates

[frosty herald]

imagine train havoc

[hearty nebula]

admittedly if someone isn't paying attention it can throw a wrench into everything

[south grove]

don't

[sterile stone]

Awful teammates are the ultimate difficulty curve in any game

[hearty nebula]

but

[sullen forge]

Imagine like 1 Crusher

[dusky moon]

noskul also doesnt work

[hearty nebula]

easily solved

[shy river]

There are times to be a hero and times to let your teammate suffer the consequences of their own actions

[sullen forge]

That’s invincible

[hearty nebula]

me when d+space

[sullen forge]

You can stun him

[south grove]

lights out HISTG rolling steel

[sullen forge]

But that’s about it

[dusky moon]

why tf nothing workin?

[hearty nebula]

i broke it

[south grove]

crushers don't hurt

what hurts is maulers

hides easier, faster overheads

[uneven galleon]

I don't mind maulers

[stone fern]

today i am going to click quickplay

[hearty nebula]

five

hundred

maulers

[dusky moon]

i got noskull, why tf there a damn skull

[stone fern]

and if i get rolling steel

im kmsing

[hearty nebula]

did you run patch for mods

[south grove]

all your mods are disabled methinks

[sterile stone]

He identifies as a miniboss

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/two-people-laughing-on-table-laugh-laughing-lol-gif-3006610283817764608

[south grove]

are you sure you reran the bats files

[uneven galleon]

Maulers are easier imo since they're more predictable in terms of sound

[dusky moon]

imma disable my foot in their ass

[plucky gate]

A regenerating beast of nurgle.
Constantly regens hp and if you kill it, it'll just stun itself instead until it regens back

[uneven galleon]

I can't hear crushers at all

[frosty herald]

dont

[south grove]

I'm hearing impaired so I can't hear anything anyways

[uneven galleon]

Regenerating + Rampage beast

[south grove]

I HATE BURGLE I HATE BURGLEI HATE BURGLEI HATE BURGLEI HATE BURGLEI HATE BURGLEI HATE BURGLE

[uneven galleon]

Same here, I can't hear from my right ear

Spidey senses my beloved

[south grove]

me too

[hearty nebula]

im not hearing impaired but i constantly have my music very loud

[south grove]

left ear's my friend

right ear is a bitch

[uneven galleon]

Ayyyy twinsies

[shy river]

exe stance bolter vet when beast of nurgle

[dusky moon]

yeah, these mods are fucked

[paper harness]

works for me lol

[uneven galleon]

You should try to reload em

[dusky moon]

noskull, descriptions, and commedores is fucked

[dusky moon]

i did, multiple times

[south grove]

dorn

my aim became actual ass after removing screen shake effects

😭

I was used to the crosshair swinging

[stone fern]

was it ever good?

[sullen forge]

Barrel him

[south grove]

yea

I could nail snipers 40m out

[stone fern]

too late

[lean cairn]

i can only tell sycorax

[lean cairn]

look at the utility!

[uneven galleon]

Based reaction

[jagged cradle]

Not too bad I might just be the best

[uneven galleon]

Smykers on random pubs

[sullen forge]

Barrel

All

Smykers

[uneven galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/god-slap-slap-of-god-nicolas-cage-slap-gif-1927807492062256907

[lean cairn]

what happens if the guy hosting the havoc missionleaves

[undone pewter]

Probably nothing? Maybe ask strawhat

[south grove]

I'm almost double your level on some characters

[carmine falcon]

ok this explains why we always lose a random when a smyker is on the team

people really dont like them huh

[misty spear]

rolling steel makes for a good drinking game

just take a shot everytime a veteran refuses to kill a ranged special

[merry flume]

take a shot every time a veteran

https://tenor.com/view/drunk-gif-24788965

[misty spear]

wrong its more like

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/pool-relax-watersleep-floating-refreshing-gif-17960787

[misty spear]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-gif-6090373173273048058

[south grove]

01: ||Archivum Sycorax||
02: ||Smelter Complex HL-17-36||

[paper harness]

Weaves for darktide before fixing the game

so another completely dead gimmick that FS thinks will be played

When the majority of players are gated in regular heresy or below

[lean cairn]

this mask looks like something you'd see in fart inhalation BDSM porn

not that i'd know

[south grove]

too lazy to do them

[carmine falcon]

is there something u wanna tell us

[south grove]

ughhhh

[gusty orbit]

XDDD

Weaves and crime spree from payday 2 flashbacks

Dead modes on arrival

[south grove]

so I'm assuming dukane's station is going to be deep dive (but darktide) right

[paper harness]

Nobody will play this

[spare dome]

why, is it cause ur too wussy

[carmine falcon]

deep rock style deep dives would actually be epic

[lean cairn]

i'll play it for the cosmetics that i wont use but other than that this sounds annoying

[gusty orbit]

DarkTide can only dream of having something remotely similar to deep rock deep dives

[south grove]

no procedural generation

yea

[carmine falcon]

darktide everything outside gameplay can dream of being even remotely close to deep rock more like

[plucky gate]

i'm glad to have something different to do in a premade with friends

[south grove]

it can't exactly be done on darktide

[paper harness]

No because the majority of the player base is malice and heresy players and will never progress above that

[frosty herald]

darktide could have randomized map layouts but they wont

[gusty orbit]

True true

[copper hawk]

meowlice and heres

y

[paper harness]

Weaves wasn’t played

[south grove]

y'mean like modules generation?

[paper harness]

Crime spree was used to boost through infamy

[gusty orbit]

Being a fucking hive it would make sense but yeah they won't

[south grove]

idt the regular players would be able to comprehend it

[frosty herald]

you notice how maps have chunks

[south grove]

yea

they kinda already reuse them a lot

[frosty herald]

like with excise vault when your going through the open hangars

[pine steeple]

I legit thought the rev/activation getting cancelled on hit was intentional this whole time

[south grove]

so it's pretty iffy on the module generation part

[gusty orbit]

And having like billions of continental coins just for show, still a gimmick mode that no one gave a shit about 💀

[carmine falcon]

i mean u dont have to copy the exact samy formula as deeprock
just make a special weekly mode like deep dives with its own conditions and rewards and stuff

[frosty herald]

every airlock and elevator could be replaced with a different map chunk

[pine steeple]

Weapons with a "be better" button are gonna eat good

[spare dome]

Weaves wasn't played because Weaves progression was 100% silod from the rest of your game

[paper harness]

Literally all that is needed is map selection, spawn fixes and balance

[south grove]

FS won't fix it

[frosty herald]

you start from the torrent go through chasm terminus and end in the carnival through generation

[south grove]

:3

[paper harness]

I am well aware of that tintin

[lean cairn]

imagine the pure dread after walking through a randomly generated mission and opening the final door to see the consignment yard end event

[gusty orbit]

We all thought that I guess? That's one of the many reasons why thy wrath be swift is mandatory on zealots as you can just ignore that bs

[paper harness]

Because the spawn rate was intentionally reduced

[paper harness]

Fall asleep time

[gusty orbit]

3 snipers on the ledge and no one bothering to take cover or shoot, classssic

[pine steeple]

We finally lived long enough to see the opposite of "It's not a bug. It's a feature."

[south grove]

make the consignment end event a midstage

pass through it

chasm logistratum

it fits the theme (kinda)

[gusty orbit]

Mix the consignment event with the new enclavum baross and whatever other terrible event

[south grove]

why did they remove the boss on the enclavum baross end

that was like the only fun part of it

[paper harness]

Baross is one of the few kino spawning maps in the game

[paper harness]

There wasn’t a boss at the end

[gusty orbit]

Yeah, it's fun, except when people don't understand the situation of hey I'm killing everything go take the damn cells 90 meters from here, maybe I should refuse to play with randoms lol

[uneven galleon]

Wait wait

[south grove]

I swear I had monstrosities at the end of enclavum like 90% of the time

[uneven galleon]

I don't understand what Havoc is

[south grove]

am I tripping

[paper harness]

Weaves but worse

[placid fiber]

I've given up trying to do the killing in like the mid enclavum baross event at the bridge... because if I don't get the cells no one will generally lol

[gusty orbit]

If you know what weaves is then you know what havoc is

[south grove]

deep dive without matrix cores, procedural generations, and only one mission per week

[lean cairn]

designing the perfect mission: clandestium gloriana beginning, hab dreyko mid event, excise vault geometry with no spawns late mission, comms plex end event

[pine steeple]

This is like telling me Invisible wasn't in MGSV

[uneven galleon]

I wish I knew

[south grove]

dreyko mid mission was the scanning right

[north sedge]

yes

[lean cairn]

yeah the one with no spawns

i usually just run around on that one

[violet hornet]

I've never found a shitty discarded havoc in a parking lot before

[uneven galleon]

I don't understand the point if it's only one mission per week

[gusty orbit]

Kinda same, but then people are overwhelmed by the endless horde because they can't handle high cleave situations or quickly changing to range to skill the specials🤣

[south grove]

it's "prestige gaming"

ranked somewhat ig

[placid fiber]

Yep, that happens sometimes lol. I just keep getting the cells

[paper harness]

Ego tripping (psyker clears 100% of the time)

[rough galleon]

died 2024 (when they gave us the weapon skins)
born 2024
welcome back weaves

[uneven galleon]

I mean

As long as it means that I can be challenged

I wouldn't mind

[lean cairn]

i wonder if it'll give class specific havoc 40 cosmetics

if they're not then they'll be too cheesable

[frosty herald]

no

[sterile stone]

It's dead ass a war hammer version of crime spree....no more no less.

[frosty herald]

you dont need to reach 40 for the moebian 53rd

[paper harness]

FS will never fix spawns so I doubt it

[lean cairn]

actually they'll still be cheesable because you could get carried by 3 psykers

[paper harness]

Exactly

[south grove]

200% peril generation rate

[lean cairn]

i mean like those border things

[frosty herald]

probably

[paper harness]

I did crime spree to farm maxed infamy

[lean cairn]

if one of the mutators is smite generates 1000% peril i'll partially forgive fatshark

[gusty orbit]

Put shackles on everyone and give them floaties as weapons while at that

[pine steeple]

Brainburst being a guaranteed mutual would make my day

[grizzled aspen]

Modifier that just neuters finesse damage:

[lean cairn]

"thick skulls"

[paper harness]

They will never do that

[grizzled aspen]

I think it would be hilarious.

[stone fern]

REMOVE BULWARKS FROM THE GAME REEEEEE

[south grove]

make 200% daemonhost spawns please

[paper harness]

It will just be nurgles blessing dogs lights out

[south grove]

ritual site

[grizzled aspen]

NOOOOOOOOO

[south grove]

force psykers to not spam their blitz everywhere

[gusty orbit]

Then At least I would be able to have some fun with the new hammer overhead I guess

[lean cairn]

im laughing and jumping up and down from how much fun i can see you're having

[paper harness]

you think they would do anything else?

[grizzled aspen]

Probably not.

[sterile stone]

Ngl doing a auric maelstrom when I forgot all the controls

[uneven galleon]

I'd love to see Nurgle Blessing trappers only

[sterile stone]

Nice to see I can just shout my way to extraction still

[gusty orbit]

They can't put more enemies in the game because it would implode, so more than likely fun damage sponges that receive 0 knockback

[south grove]

force soykers to actually not spam ranged and blitz everwhere

[gusty orbit]

And make all elites crusher patrols

[south grove]

make consequences happen

[opal star]

you did this

YOU DID THIS

[rocky nacelle]

@frosty herald

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/turles-dbz-gif-9742184

[opal star]

do they goon ethically

turles could easily snap gohan's neck right there

[pine steeple]

Ethical gooning isn't real

[placid fiber]

I feel like this will only be a problem for bad players, since most of the time we kill a lot of the enemies in melee to begin with...

[pine steeple]

It's the "learn your primary" modifier

[opal star]

me looking at my recon lasgun exec stance loadout:

[uneven galleon]

Prove it

[opal star]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-buzz-walkin-gif-4619349587537853035

[pine steeple]

No

[placid fiber]

Me when I bring my gunlugger loadout to a malice run to mow down hordes for the lulz:

[uneven galleon]

Of course you wouldn't snowflake

[south grove]

do they look different?

what enemies are applied

[pine steeple]

Gooner self report

[south grove]

I can't play rn

[stone fern]

me when i kickback the hoard

[opal star]

well I aint start the game yet holon

[plucky gate]

Do the explosions go through toughness?

[south grove]

yea

[undone flame]

everyone ready for new content

[plucky gate]

if they do direct hp damage i will cry

[opal star]

BOOOOOOOOO 🍅 🍅

[south grove]

I died to cica

[placid fiber]

ur face when ur face faces the hor- wait...

[south grove]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iTd0dEKtv1UH0rOqn/spok?invite=cr-MSx0NlIsMjA0MjU2ODk0LA

[opal star]

mods I want 8 billion stickers of tintin getting sniped IMMEDIATELY ‼️

[placid fiber]

barrels damage your health directly

[plucky gate]

not barrels

the new event

with the exploding enemies

[placid fiber]

idk about that lol

[opal star]

was the loud ass demon dog sounds not enough of a warning

[south grove]

that was like 100 level ago

[south grove]

this ain't my clip

I was the one who died

[plucky gate]

idk if i wanna play martyrdom and have "ally" shoot a poxwalker near me and instantly kill me if it goes through toughness

[south grove]

cica clipped himself killing me

[rocky nacelle]

so grub he posted someone else's clip of someone killing him

👎

[opal star]

real

[jagged cradle]

And I’m just alittle worse get better already

[violet hornet]

Why bring grenades and not use them

[south grove]

You brought smokes to a C-I-VI match, where there are a maximum of 10 gunner spawns.

[stone fern]

i go into a blind rage when i see bulwarks and lose all sense and logic

[placid fiber]

Dude just use the flamer

[fleet zealot]

I hope it’s toughness too but all the explosions that affect via launching the players have been straight hp

[south grove]

https://tenor.com/view/you-play-like-ass-im-leaving-gif-26982217

[violet hornet]

Same tbh

[drifting wolf]

fellas in here making fun of tintin won't be laughing when they have to go to the hospital and they see a familiar face enter the room.........

[stone fern]

no

[fleet zealot]

Maybe it will be more like bomber detonation or dog/mutant knockback

[stone fern]

if i bring flamer i have to bring knives

[fleet zealot]

And be toughness instead

[south grove]

you had a boltgun?

[stone fern]

yes

[plucky gate]

not like you remember to use nades anyways, judging from that clip

[south grove]

clad can't make a knife throw

[plucky gate]

clad can't make a grenade throw

[jagged cradle]

Tbf I thought I still had Kraks i changed that build recently

[lean cairn]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/mutator-suggestions/100901

[south grove]

and won't use his stunstorm anyways

[gusty orbit]

Knives are for pussies, based people refuse to have good special killing when using their flamer

[plucky gate]

makes no difference

[south grove]

vaper

[placid fiber]

You just stood there and took it up the ass, without complaining :/

[south grove]

vape supreme

[south grove]

level 31 psyker vs level 200 ogryn

don't flatter yourself

[jagged cradle]

I do like vaping

Yummy cancer

[stone fern]

Im not saying im good

[placid fiber]

You should have at least taken out your bolter during until death and shot them lol

[frosty herald]

https://www.gematsu.com/2024/11/bandai-namco-trademarks-nightreign-in-japan

[south grove]

you just posted a clip of yourself not using boltgun or stunstorm

[stone fern]

its just >people who play 1 class talking shit about build variety to people who play 3

[south grove]

I think that's proof enough

[frosty herald]

if this doesnt turn out to be the ac6 expansion ill cry myself to sleep

[south grove]

I have more build variety than you still

[frosty herald]

armored core 6: nightreign

[stone fern]

yeah oookay buddy

ookay friendo

[plucky gate]

bulwark hordes are like the biggest reason to have nades and you didn't throw them

[pine steeple]

Bulwark make brain go grr

[placid fiber]

You use any build that doesn't have tknives so you have the "excuse" to not be able to handle bulwarks by having a flamer... :/

[gusty orbit]

How come, I play 3 classes pretty good, and probably know how to play all weapons in this game, chill, everyone fucks up once in a while

[stone fern]

yes

[sterile stone]

Praying it's some shitty turn based gacha game

[pine steeple]

No ferocious fighty or big thinky. Only grr

[plucky gate]

clad took the nade point tax to do literally nothing with them

[placid fiber]

that means you use 0 build variety on the zealot

[south grove]

you use stun nades

oh wait

[frosty herald]

or it could be a code vein sequel

[gusty orbit]

Flamers melt bulwarks the second they remotely burn them anyway lol

[south grove]

no you don't

[carmine falcon]

pretty sure they already said its not happening

[placid fiber]

That's why I'm giving him so much shit lol

[carmine falcon]

after they were asked if its getting a shadow of erdtree style dlc

[south grove]

pop a nade right there and there would've been no problem at all

[stone fern]

fire nades suck

[sullen forge]

@rocky nacelle

[south grove]

throwing knife????

[jagged cradle]

Who doesn’t have build variety?

[sterile stone]

Is code vein that time traveling weeb game?

[stone fern]

theyre good i just dont wanna play them

[placid fiber]

And you're too rashad brained to use tknives just so that you can bring the biggest anti-bulwark ranged weapon since the plasma gun

[south grove]

clad thinks I have zero variety in gameplay

[frosty herald]

vampire weeb game thingy

[pine steeple]

Fire grenades are thematically sick as hell

[sterile stone]

I thought Hellsing was vampire weeb stuff

[placid fiber]

That shows that you are not racist against bulwarks

Which means you like them

[jagged cradle]

Sounds like

[gusty orbit]

Yeah having a pocket flamer is bad, so bad that it's the grenade with the most killing potential too xd

[south grove]

I run w/ everything but warp use psykers and ogryns

[jagged cradle]

But you do sorta

[placid fiber]

I figured it out

[plucky gate]

you could handle bulwarks just fine if the nades actually left your hand

[placid fiber]

Clad like bulwarks

It's so clear now

[south grove]

adrenaline comes w/ mobility

and I'm a mobility freak

[limpid oyster]

nope thats tknives

[rocky nacelle]

@merry flume https://youtu.be/HUA91srRwJA?si=yoHwhHIHE2F6jcgI

[stone fern]

you play the same builds on vet and zealot

[gusty orbit]

I mean they have a big pipe and like railing stuff, something adds up there

[stone fern]

i dont play psyker and ogryn

thats 50% of the game

[limpid oyster]

unless you think killing poxwalkers is killing potential

[south grove]

I play gunker

and melee psyker

[placid fiber]

I mean he actively avoids the biggest racist against bulwarks zealot ranged weapon there is: the flamer

so he must want to fight them

[limpid oyster]

lol

[lean cairn]

is it just me or does the lighting look better now

[south grove]

I don't like warp use that's all

[stone fern]

you cant play gunker without using warp

[plucky gate]

gunker and melee psyker are practically the same build

[south grove]

staff and blitz are crutches

[stone fern]

then you would just be playing vet

[plucky gate]

my gunker is my melee psyker

[gusty orbit]

Eh, exterminating infinite elites via keeping them in place is killing potential, knives have that for specials

[stone fern]

again

you're bitching at me for playing rashad while you play the same weapons on 3 classes

[jagged cradle]

True but you might as well use one of them atleast

[south grove]

yea point is I don't expend warp use unless scrier's gaze and force sword

[south grove]

same weapon how?

[placid fiber]

I'm bitching at you enjoying bulwarks, since you avoid zealot's biggest strength against them: the flamer

[plucky gate]

i actually try to not repeat using the same weapons in different builds

[south grove]

name one weapon I use across every class

[stone fern]

ur not bitching

[pine steeple]

Just put the grenades on the ground bro

[stone fern]

i welcome your thoughts :3

[placid fiber]

True, I'm finding it amusing that you love bulwarks

[limpid oyster]

it literally doesnt keep anything in place it has no crowd control. youre thinking of stuns

[gusty orbit]

Really having an argument about a zealot refusing to use their nade lmao

Remembers me of the heresy days

[south grove]

no it goes deeper than that

[spare talon]

this is entirely incorrect
its 1-15 on the left and 15+ on the right
(im assuming this is in relation to havoc)

[south grove]

I made fun of clad for using martyrdom rashad zealot

[plucky gate]

as you should

[south grove]

he saw me die on psyker bc I'm bad at psyker

[jagged cradle]

Is that why you hate Rashad

[south grove]

then said I have zero variety after playing one game

[south grove]

no

rashad is just boring

and kinda a crutch

[stone fern]

i use them all the time for bulwarks

[placid fiber]

marty rashad is very brain dead... I know cause I used it for a bit... I haven't used it for a while, now, tho

[stone fern]

the issue is

bulwarks shouldnt be spawning like this

[sullen forge]

COD Zombies (Black ops 6)

[south grove]

use HHA!!

every day

[gusty orbit]

Why do I need crowd control if I am a zealot, I am the crowd control while they burn to death, all zealot blitzes are amazing anyway

[stone fern]

fatshark said they stopped bulwark patrols

[sullen forge]

6+ manglers spawn on that wave

[spare talon]

oh then i wouldnt know
never touched a cod zombies game

[jagged cradle]

I’m likening the antax tbh I’m forcing it into a crit it’s uh funner sorta

[south grove]

immolation nades have no kill potential besides chaff and dogs

[plucky gate]

wow you got that far into a mission with martyrdom without barreling all your hp

[placid fiber]

You say that, but, you have 2 nades in this video and you use none, and you don't even use the bolter #zealot-class message

[plucky gate]

cringing

[south grove]

I have to agree on stunstorm being better here

[stone fern]

rashad functions exactly like heavy sword just with more carapace damage

[limpid oyster]

me when i am carried by my three friends

[stone fern]

yes i didnt use them there because i was mentally done with the game there

[carmine falcon]

i switched to knives so i dont have to wait for veterans to 1 tap the sniper 100 meters away

[stone fern]

again

bulwarks should not be spawning like this

[pine steeple]

Those mental checkouts are rough

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile me with my flamer: Ooo, some victims to broil

[south grove]

also flame nades have some awful point tax going through bad talents

middle tree is just... mid asf

[gusty orbit]

I must be the exception then filling the kill feed with flame grenades usually, I play with randoms too, that's important, fills the need to kill shit while they mess around

[placid fiber]

the best part about the middle top is the 20% unyielding and infested damage

[spare talon]

knives are the best blitz
on demand special sniper thats faster than your gun, doesnt need to reload, doesnt need grenades (saves it for the ppl with good grenades), doesnt need ammo (for when the vet/gunlugger eats all of it and you get none), and the best tree pathing around it

[placid fiber]

and the 2nd best is the 25% ranged damage to close enemies

[limpid oyster]

please explain in detail how zealot is "the crowd control", really having a hard time understanding