zealot-class

[rocky nacelle]

time to get racist with max buff napalm

[stone fern]

i almost pissed myself in the middle section @paper harness

[paper harness]

when i am in a doing nothing comp and my oppenent is a stealth zealot

[visual stream]

It feels very weird that shroud doesn't restore any toughness

[south grove]

It's penance hunting time...

[hard nexus]

sry i’m not there to carry you

[south grove]

IHATEMYLIFEIHATEMYLIFEIHATEMYLIFE

[rocky nacelle]

lmao

im like level 200 soyker

still dont have that penance

never running smite

👎

[paper harness]

afk script

[rocky nacelle]

nerd noob script

more like

sorry i actually play the game for fun dorn

and your 4K hours have sucked it all away

https://tenor.com/view/filianore-dark-souls-the-ringed-city-soulsborne-dark-souls3-gif-21684088

[copper hawk]

Troo

But the heavy is so slow to charge

I hatez it

Both evis's need a buff

[rocky nacelle]

mk15 heavy is pretty fast cica

if you're trying to merk a rager at least

thats why mk15 needs thrust

1 shot crushers better

@modern lintel https://youtu.be/aQkPcPqTq4M?si=6cglTE4DQretAOCS

throw back time

[copper hawk]

I mean it's slow to swing

It feels so clunky

[rocky nacelle]

yea that part is true

i dont blame you for feeling that way with the weapon

[copper hawk]

That should be axed

[rocky nacelle]

but idk evisc's feel good (mk3 requires alot of user input) they're just yknow

could be better

[stone fern]

the reapers appearing here

[copper hawk]

They dont function properly

[rocky nacelle]

I dont think the mk3 functions

[stone fern]

@hard nexus better stun?

[rocky nacelle]

without alot of user assistance

[copper hawk]

The mk3 h1 does piss poor damage that's 100% and oversight

[rocky nacelle]

I think the mk15 is perfectly fine

mk3 tho

[copper hawk]

Mkxv having a damage cap on its lights is stupid full stop

[vague depot]

any idea why sometimes the fotf sound activates twice

[rocky nacelle]

yea mk15 dmg cap on lights is something shitty ive been forced to live with

[copper hawk]

The weird windup for the xv heavies need to be axed

[rocky nacelle]

shit should be like 5-6

[copper hawk]

Push attack rev should do more damage

[south grove]

Bug, happens w/ infiltrate as well.

[rocky nacelle]

push attack mk15 should be useful in general

lmao

[stone fern]

nope

[vague depot]

ah ok

[copper hawk]

I think both evis's need a buff in damage to their shreds

[rocky nacelle]

revved?

[copper hawk]

Why is a chord more effective against armor than the evis

Yah the rev

[rocky nacelle]

or when it latches on without rev

ah ok

[copper hawk]

The mg 13 or whatever is better against armor than the evis :p

A fact meow love love loves

[rocky nacelle]

yes we know

[copper hawk]

@hard nexus isnt that right

[rocky nacelle]

meow has bitched to me about it 4 times

twice in dm and twice here

or once in dms but same thing

evisc power crept moment

somethings always remain the same

[misty ravine]

My personal favorite is how insane the knife is when neither Realism nor Rule of Cool would make anyone think that would be one of the best weapons

[copper hawk]

It's just blessings that break the knife tbh

Uncanny

And the 3x crit multiplier

Which works nicely w the weakspot hits inflict bleed

[grizzled aspen]

Don't forget that the mk13 chainsword is also just a horde deleter on its own.

[copper hawk]

Plus crit on bleed plus rending on crit PLUS 3x weakspot damage

[grizzled aspen]

Like yeah it does better armor damage but it also just evaporates chaff.

[copper hawk]

Idr but i want to say it's 5x damage on a weakspot crit

No weapon should be doing that much damage WITH rending

[copper hawk]

Byeah

It's the quirky finesse thing and the cleave from wrath

I like that weird interaction tbh they should keep it

[hard nexus]

mk15 does not

[grizzled aspen]

Eviscerators need

light cleave damage cap removed
better overall damage (maybe like 20%?) or at the very least a finesse buff
faster swing speed

[hard nexus]

the heaviest are fine

[copper hawk]

I dont like the heavy wind up

Get rid of it !!

[grizzled aspen]

This is for both eviscerators, mk3 probably needs a bit more love after those changes.

[south grove]

Morrow was on Nox Alpha????

What the fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUdfgAbvMys&ab_channel=Fatshark

[grizzled aspen]

Morrow has been literally fuckin everywhere.

[south grove]

But he doesn't sound like he wants people to know.

Listen to the intercept.

[paper harness]

no

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, he doesn't want people to know how old and lethal he is.

[south grove]

Karnak twins started cannibalism on Nox Alpha.

[grizzled aspen]

Hes an old hand and doesn't care for boasting.

[hard nexus]

mk15 saw is completely fine

mk3 doesn’t need a buff to damage on h1 (maybe a slight buff to reach mauler one shot) but rather a buff to cleave damage, though h2 does need a buff to damage

[south grove]

That's also where the Moebian 6th were corrupted no?

I forgot the lore help.

[copper hawk]

It needs a buff to both

[hard nexus]

:(

[copper hawk]

It does like no fucking damage on h1 to the first target

The mk3

Compared to other horde clearing attacks from other weapons

[hard nexus]

yes that’s why the mk13g is better in almost every way vs the mk3

[copper hawk]

Yep

That shouldnt be a thinf

Thing*

Rather they buffed the evis slightly and nerfed the chord slighty

Mg13 anyways

[grizzled aspen]

Chainswords don't need nerfed.

They're fine.

[paper harness]

they kinda do

[grizzled aspen]

Eviscerators have just been powercrept.

[copper hawk]

The mg13 encroaches on the niche of the evis

Noh

The evis's have always been like neglected

Since the beginning

B4 ur time

They still are neglected

[grizzled aspen]

Then they just need outright buffed.

Pretty simple.

[hard nexus]

their current damage aside from mk3 rev is fine, mk15 getting a buff to swing speed alongside a damage cap removal could push it into OP territory,

swing speed needs a slight buff on mk3 h2 and mk15 heavies

[jagged cradle]

You’re old

[stone fern]

chainsword buff confirmed

[paper harness]

oooor

[copper hawk]

Damage caps on light attacks onna weapon where their horde clear is on lights

The chord does not

[paper harness]

we just nerf over performers down to the 3 level

[copper hawk]

Le finesse cleave damage go brrr

[plucky gate]

mk15 evis is fine

[grizzled aspen]

"Could push it into op territory" the crusher, ds4, rashad, and knives all exist.

It genuinely is fine if it's "op".

[copper hawk]

Lol the crusher

Not rlly

It pve game but other people play this game too

[frosty herald]

@rocky nacelle Rey dau solod

[copper hawk]

Not just u

Usin broken wpn that's op removes the fun for other people

[grizzled aspen]

Not like they're gonna be running the right shit on their weapons anyway!

[copper hawk]

It's why people complain about blaze away pen flames purg psykers

[grizzled aspen]

Pubbers are trash at this game lmao.

[hard nexus]

i think mk3 h1 should stay the same aside from cleave damage, but h2 needs to be buffed to be more inline with mk15 heavy damage

[hard nexus]

one of the current issues with mk3 is that h2 is entirely worthless

[grizzled aspen]

Is there an easy way to access the mk3 h2?

[misty ravine]

Mk15 is pretty good but Mk3 was always underpowered, it takes knowledge and effort to make the Mk3 decent

[grizzled aspen]

Other than like swiping the air and then going for it?

[hard nexus]

i don’t want more OP weapons

[hard nexus]

push into heavy, similar to ironhelm

[hearty tinsel]

😦

[grizzled aspen]

I'm not apologizing after seeing the things I've seen in auric mael qp.

Damage dump rashad, terrifying barrage brautogun, focused channeling on a lmb surge staff...

The list goes on.

The things most people bring into pubs are genuinely terrible.

And typically their mechanical skills are severely lacking.

[copper hawk]

Whiff l1 and do h2

Datz it

[grizzled aspen]

Fake. Meow just told me push goes into h2.

[copper hawk]

Im the real meower here

[grizzled aspen]

Noob!

[copper hawk]

Meow is a faker

[hard nexus]

push into heavy

goober

[copper hawk]

Nop

Fake newz

Ur wrong

Sulfuric acid !

[grizzled aspen]

Mom and dad are fighting again...

[stone fern]

mom and mom

[copper hawk]

SHUT UP

[grizzled aspen]

Despite his choice of language and his effeminate actions, Cica is still a man. A feminine man, but a man nonetheless.

[copper hawk]

Nuh uh

Im meownly as flipper

[stone fern]

TEN HUT OFFICER ON DECK

[median steeple]

Boobs

https://tenor.com/view/cat-umi-gif-26811378

[hard nexus]

LOL

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/transformers-transformers-one-megatronus-orion-pax-d-16-gif-1212958912190315010

[grizzled aspen]

I'll brb gonna go Google him.

[median steeple]

If you haven't seen this movie please watch it

it's peak

[hard nexus]

it is

it’s peakity peak

[hard nexus]

it’s actually the only transformers movie i’ve watched

[grizzled aspen]

OH MEIN GOTT

[hard nexus]

google en passant

[grizzled aspen]

You never watched the Michael Bay movies?

[grizzled aspen]

That's a chess move, I know that one.

[hard nexus]

norp

[hard nexus]

u don’t get the reference

[grizzled aspen]

No I don't, too much of a fuckin nerd to.

[grizzled aspen]

You should. Optimus rips people in half. It's great.

[hard nexus]

i’m ngl

would.

[grizzled aspen]

Also he rides a t rex transformer.

It's metal as fuck.

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah I already knew this.

Like I didn't know it was a reddit meme but I knew the existence of the move.

[grizzled aspen]

I was in a chess tournament when I was younger and the judges had to come inspect my board on one game because the girl I was playing against didn't know en passant was a thing.

Which, tbf, is fine, as it's typically never the best move you can do.

[grizzled aspen]

But still, it exists.

Same with castle-ing.

[hard nexus]

yarp

[void bison]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-big-nathan-jack-gif-18675724

[grizzled aspen]

I remember seeing a whole elaborate plan one of my opponents had and I just destroyed it by castling with the greatest shit eating grin I could manage.

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1120299759316520960/1302025674801811527/Shawty_had_them_apple_LQ_Abridged.mp4?ex=67269d67&is=67254be7&hm=95ca07dd79768dc12535bc349977ea09b16243f936514d23a87723a65f06fa8b&

[frosty herald]

i should try to beat a doshaguma herde

[void bison]

evil eldritch robot!!!!!

[grizzled aspen]

I won all but one game at that tournament, but it was a school thing so no one person could be the winner.

[rocky nacelle]

appl

🍎

[grizzled aspen]

My school still fuckin lost because the guy on my team that swore he was the best lost literally every game because he was so cocky.

[placid fiber]

[dusky moon]

prolly has to do wth me being shit at dodging, but what if i did lac and mercy killer?

[grizzled aspen]

It was an excellent experience to see him be humbled.

[rocky nacelle]

dorn

[grizzled aspen]

Then I would make you explode.

[grizzled aspen]

[void bison]

[jade sonnet]

This is always the most active chat

[dusky moon]

aw man, i dont wanna explode

[hard nexus]

u probably don’t remember me

i was

[placid fiber]

[hard nexus]

uhm

i forgot what my old name was

my old nickname

[grizzled aspen]

🗣️ 🔥

[mint imp]

any reccomended curio perks for zealot? i normally run health, toughness, and toughness regen.
any other noteworthy ones?

[paper harness]

No

[pale spindle]

https://youtu.be/CeXOMrKRGU0?si=7TkaGY2b_8MI-ceI

[jade sonnet]

Corruption resistance is nice for boss slaying

[void bison]

[dusky moon]

i just need to dodge better

[paper harness]

corruption resist is terrible

[grizzled aspen]

X3 toughness, hp, and gunner resist, or x2 gunner resist and x1 sniper resist.

[paper harness]

drop toughness regen speed for gunner resist or something useful

[placid fiber]

health, toughness, 1 sniper resist, 2 or 3 gunner resist

[dusky moon]

gunner resis, always

fuck gunners

bane of my damn existence

[mint imp]

i see

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-write-that-down-gif-27686706

[grizzled aspen]

[jade sonnet]

It has come in handy once or twice. Especially if you're in stealth 95% of the time. Guess it just depends 🤷‍♂️

[grizzled aspen]

The studious ogryns...

[hard nexus]

my name used to be captain confused on discord, my old PfP was initially a girl with a fish in her mouth, then the girl from a bag of milk outside a bag of milk

https://tenor.com/view/milk-milki-outside-gif-27646469

this girl

[grizzled aspen]

This is the thing, 99% of people in here don't use stealth because fotf is so much better.

[paper harness]

only enemy it applies to is beast of nurgles

[grizzled aspen]

The devious poxburster:

Also tox gas.

[placid fiber]

and daemonhosts, right?

for monsters

[jade sonnet]

Bombers and the chaos things

[grizzled aspen]

Corruption resistance has a place, it's just a very small place and other things are better.

[hard nexus]

this was my old pfp

[violet hornet]

oh shit I remember seeing that

[void bison]

my brain was last seen grey and cobwebby (doc was surprised I could think words and thoughts)
but I do remember this a little!!!

[grizzled aspen]

I personally run a corruption resistance perk instead of 1 of the 3 gunner resist perks, but that's also because I have a violent hatred for burgles.

[hard nexus]

hooray !

swag

[void bison]

I do not remember the fish munching!!!

[grizzled aspen]

I believe I also have a grim resist perk on but I am too lazy to get yet another matching curio and change it.

[placid fiber]

I sometimes throw 3 10% dockets perks on for some extra moola

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[void bison]

Kevin.

[copper hawk]

Noob parrot

Gray noob

[void bison]

his darkness is so immense. his thoughts are shrouded

[frosty herald]

Yog is back

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1292603468497944698/RDT_20241005_190228553576971513151217.gif

[hard nexus]

life is good

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

[grizzled aspen]

I have 10% dockets on all my martyr curios.

[hard nexus]

lmfao

real

[copper hawk]

Noov

Noob @hard nexus

Noob noob noooob

[hard nexus]

hi

hi

[copper hawk]

:3

[hard nexus]

hi

:3

[copper hawk]

Haaai

[hard nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1130953226611597413/1301219355929083905/wolpspin.gif

[copper hawk]

:3

[jagged cradle]

Lmao that’s fitting

[placid fiber]

Cica must be hanging out with stan

[copper hawk]

I do NOT hang w the Stannis Baratheon

[placid fiber]

is that his scientific name?

[void bison]

whats up cockatrice!!!!!

[stone fern]

🙏

[median steeple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1141605476807745606/1253751386651361300/attachment-41.gif?ex=672655f8&is=67250478&hm=d6f9be160740d5fe8830b283c025d4fa4a8ba81d20c1338004b661adfbd97ae8&

[copper hawk]

Welcome backsies yog frog

[median steeple]

Welcome back yog

[paper harness]

if you are taking that much damage from corruption you are doing something wrong

[copper hawk]

Meeee

[copper hawk]

Dorn would know

He's a freak

He has a full corruption bar irl

[copper hawk]

:<

[median steeple]

Sad kbitty

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-toji-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-18065753054839225306

[stone fern]

omg....

[hard nexus]

he is studious

[copper hawk]

What's this

[paper harness]

thats you?

[violet hornet]

just report all psykers on sight

[median steeple]

Horrific

[stone fern]

yeah

[void bison]

I teach him the essentials. I can't stop him from becoming too powerful to contain, but I can raise him to be a benevolent god

[hearty tinsel]

Is he going to be an ambassador between his people and the frogs? What's going on here?!

[stone fern]

the report page takes so long to fill out.....

and the website bugs out sometimes when you wanna upload videos

[copper hawk]

Lmfao wait

Are those reports

[stone fern]

no

forum

the report page is different

[copper hawk]

I wouldnt know

Ive never reported anyway

Anyone*

[jade sonnet]

Is it still a knife?

[stone fern]

i only reported one person so far

[copper hawk]

Is there a way to see if u were ever reported

[stone fern]

WAIT

couldnt find the quest font 😭

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, actually. Knife is still used with fotf.

[placid fiber]

^

[hearty tinsel]

Wait. Why would corruption resist be benefical if you're in stealth?

I ask, as a stealth zealot 😭

[paper harness]

it isn't

[modern lintel]

report cica for rampant noobism

[copper hawk]

Of u report me it's a hatecrime

Srry

[placid fiber]

I mean... the only thing I can think of is them getting burstered

[rocky nacelle]

how could it be a hate crime if I loved doing it

😇

[violet hornet]

bought a couple bags of halloween candy and forgot they ruined butterfingers

[jagged cradle]

We shouldn’t report Cica

[vague depot]

If I could only go with one should I take good balance or second wind

[stone fern]

second wind

[vague depot]

Alright thanks

I’m guessing maintaining max toughness is better than tdr for melee

[copper hawk]

Heavy sword

[copper hawk]

Nuh uh

[median steeple]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/MHWilds/s/pHFMDYLl9u god bless Capcom and their PC ports ( Game is still peak tho )

[jagged cradle]

Wdym I’m trying to defend u!!?

Noob

[frosty herald]

Im so glad i dont have issues with the beta

[dusky moon]

like, how do you know if youre dodging right?

[median steeple]

I didn't either

[copper hawk]

There's a near hit sound

Also if u dodge right u dont get hit

[dusky moon]

cause, i can hear the backstabs and dodge, but idk if im doing it right

[vague depot]

If you didn’t get hit you probably did it right

[median steeple]

the people who have had problems are all on older rigs

[rocky nacelle]

he cant read cuz hes noob

[vague depot]

There’s also a pretty inaudible whoosh noise

I think

[dusky moon]

well yeah, but idk if its proking my perks or talents

[copper hawk]

Troo

Wire is defendies me

MEOWEVER

[vague depot]

Oh yea that’s why some people change their ui to be in the middle for better viewing

[copper hawk]

Im like that 1 tiktok cat that runs around beefs w every1

[mystic ether]

Depending on which ones you take, they're spinning unless there's a bug idk about for zealots.

[copper hawk]

Stuff that procs will be at the bottom

Like second wind

Or duelist

Or good balance

[jagged cradle]

I love Maxwell

[mystic ether]

For the blindspot sound, a roughly 1.5 second after you hear it, attempt to dodge. You can also 180 and shove if it's little shitmen.

[copper hawk]

Or just dodge constantly

[dusky moon]

yeah, pother then my health, i havent been paying attention to bottom screen stuff

and ammo

[copper hawk]

Ammeow

[mystic ether]

Assume that it's working unless you learn something that proves stuff isn't working.

[copper hawk]

Some attacks u have to wait for

Like trappers and mauler/crusher overheads

And the walk forward attack

[mystic ether]

If you're dodging a lot and at range, most enemies have a lunging strike. Those lunges will follow you and sometimes it's better to just slap em or kill, whatever to disrupt. Main reason why things like push attacks are so valuable.

[copper hawk]

That bulwarks do

[void bison]

[mystic ether]

And yeah, overheads are the big spooky. You'll get used to keeping calm and peeping your opportunities over time. Depending on your weapons and ability choices, you can just skip a desperate elite squad trying to rip you to pieces by running away or into enemies (depends), just popping book or forcing it to end with shroudfield.

[placid fiber]

"the proof this isn't working is I didn't press the dodge button" (duellist)

[placid fiber]

[mystic ether]

I can be wrong here but I'm pretty sure everything with a heavy overhead are maulers, crushers, and monstrosities. Bulwark shield bashes can sap your stamina and promote guard breaking

[placid fiber]

Why are you bothering them in their shower?!

[jade sonnet]

It's better than gunner resist if you're in stealth 95% of the time because the gunners aren't going to see you, but you're still going to have to deal with corruption damage from bombers/bosses etc

That's just my take

[paper harness]

being in stealth that much...

[plucky gate]

if a gunner literally never aggros you, i wonder what's happening to the teammates...

[hushed knoll]

Hi screaming mushroom

[hearty tinsel]

I mean, I could see having some extra curios for corruption resist if you were carrying around grimoires or something maybe.

[plucky gate]

hi stan

[hushed knoll]

What's gucci

Don't say a clothing brand

[plucky gate]

damn you stole my line

[placid fiber]

I mean... you will still be vulnerable to getting swiss cheesed when you're out of stealth lol

[hushed knoll]

Everyone does it 😒

[nimble fiber]

a clothing brand

[hushed knoll]

AZRAVAL OMG HIII

[grizzled aspen]

Ask him, not me. I don't use stealth.

[hushed knoll]

DAMMIT

[jade sonnet]

That's going to happen -20% damage or not if you get caught anywhere

[hushed knoll]

Hello ice cream sundae frog

[placid fiber]

if you have 2 or 3 you increase the window of time you have to react by quite a lot

[paper harness]

did i do your twins i cannot recall

[hushed knoll]

Excuse me what

[hearty tinsel]

So Im running +20 health blessing on two, +2 stamina blessing on one, and +20 resist to snipers and gunners with 10% teammate revive. On each. Too much?

[jade sonnet]

I wouldn't bring corruption resistance to the twins

I like to change stuff based on what the run calls for

[hearty tinsel]

Yeah Im starting to collect a bunch of curios.

[paper harness]

I am 90% certain me and ainz carried you through twins

[hearty tinsel]

Still new, lol

[grizzled aspen]

x2 +20% health curios, x1 +2 stamina curios and all 3 have gunner resist, sniper resist, and revive speed?

That's a lot bro.

[jade sonnet]

Ainz a room of like 9 people did that for me because dodging on console is a real pain haha

[grizzled aspen]

Post your talents, let's take a look.

[hearty tinsel]

Snipers are scary bro

Afk.

lmao

[grizzled aspen]

Snipers are scary, yeah, but not scary enough to need 48% DR to them.

[jade sonnet]

I'm not sure what that has to do with the validity of an opinion of usefulness on corruption resistance, though

[hearty tinsel]

This is an experimental nonsense build Im running on Heresy, it's probably not good. Also, I've tried posting pictures and it won't paste in this channel??!

[grizzled aspen]

You tried now or when you were still a gray name?

[polar nexus]

the tanner build

[grizzled aspen]

Gray names can't post images.

[placid fiber]

the more hp you have the less corruption is going to do to you, due to it being a flat amount or by a % of melee damage dealt

[grizzled aspen]

Gotta have a red name.

[jade sonnet]

Right right

[grizzled aspen]

Post build.

I'm curious.

[placid fiber]

they said they're bringing 2 20% hp curios

[hearty tinsel]

I'm gray? It looks red to me?!?!

[grizzled aspen]

I was asking if you tried now or when you were still a grey name.

[hearty tinsel]

Oh, no I tried earlier to post some weapon screen shots.

Wouldn't go through.

[grizzled aspen]

Not sure then.

Idk man I just work here.

[jade sonnet]

We were just talking about perks for an experimental zealot build and I threw out corruption resistance might be useful to them depending on what they're doing and nobody liked that hah

[hearty tinsel]

Man, I'd be all about it for whenever some grabs a grim. Messes me up lol

[grizzled aspen]

I'm just curious as to why your justification is stealth, specifically.

I am speaking as someone that runs both corruption resist and grim resist at the same time.

And I also never swap it off, even if there's no grims.

Too lazy.

[paper harness]

because he cannot dodge

[jade sonnet]

Usually corruption happens passively or as an accident from an explosion. If you're in stealth you're not in line of fire or the main target a lot of the time.

[candid cloud]

corruption res is almost strictly worse than just running +hp

[grizzled aspen]

It just seems like you're taking a "plan to lose" approach with it.

[jade sonnet]

It's just not the easiest thing to do with a joystick. I'm definitely able to dodge, just not as effectively as PC players

[grizzled aspen]

I only run my corruption resists because it's funny to watch a psyker die to corruption and I have a vehement hatred for burgles.

[hearty tinsel]

LOL

[grizzled aspen]

My justification is valid, stealth isn't one.

[grizzled aspen]

If possible, claw grip.

[paper harness]

it is never fun to have a team mate drag overheads into others because they are reliant on stealth

[grizzled aspen]

Dodge with your index finger.

[candid cloud]

200 hp lets you survive 3 pox bursters from full or 1 from half hp

[grizzled aspen]

I clear 200hp, I'm fine.

[jade sonnet]

It's the joystick positioning. If you're moving forward at all, even 1 degree, it will not dodge in any direction

[grizzled aspen]

Brother I played all the dark souls games with claw grip, trust me, I know how it works.

[jade sonnet]

PC has the benefit of direct left and right buttons that make sideways dodging a breeze

[candid cloud]

on a similar note a single sniper res drops sniper damage from >100 to <100

so you can survive another sniper shot

[grizzled aspen]

Also I don't use target lock in those games so I'm freehanding the camera while dodging.

I'm just saying claw grip makes your life infinitely easier.

[plucky gate]

iirc it's like 98 damage

[grizzled aspen]

Counterargument, don't get sniped.

[plucky gate]

cause at 197 you survive with 1 hp

[candid cloud]

counterargument: maelstrom spawned a wave of 8 snipers

[grizzled aspen]

Counter-counterargument, back the fuck up into better positioning.

[jade sonnet]

the issues I have with dodging all come from the joystick. The buttons are fine, it's having a rotational movement field that gets me. I press the button and nothing happens because I'm doing left with a 1 degree forward tilt and die

[candid cloud]

i mean what else are you gonna run lmao

corruption res?

[grizzled aspen]

Quite literally, yes, that is what I run.

[plucky gate]

I know this because +31% max hp (a perfect curio and some talent tree nodes) on psyker/vet puts you at exactly 197. Perfect breakpoint

[hearty tinsel]

I have 276 hp. Too much? Should I go for another curio?

[grizzled aspen]

But thats not the point.

[grizzled aspen]

Too much.

[candid cloud]

sometimes they game just says fuck you and you get hit thrown into a pox and then pox'd into a sniper

[nimble fiber]

it do be like that

[grizzled aspen]

I've been mutant grabbed, thrown, airshot by a sniper while flying, landed in burgle puke, and then instantly got eaten.

This was before I had medal otherwise I would've clipped it.

[plucky gate]

on zealot i just don't give a shit about hp cause we have enough and there's until death

[grizzled aspen]

You want more toughness than hp, but you also want to break 200hp.

Ideally 2 toughness and 1 hp curio.

You can get enough hp from perks and that one curio to breach 200hp iirc.

[plucky gate]

is this for zealot?

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah?

[plucky gate]

we start with 200hp

you can grab literally anything and breach 200 hp

[grizzled aspen]

@south grove you goblin I am trying to join your strike team.

[grizzled aspen]

Perhaps I am stupid and am thinking of vet math.

Vet has to do some gymnastics to breach 200.

[plucky gate]

vet and psyker start with 150 so probably

[grizzled aspen]

I dont think psyker can breach 200 without running 2 hp curios.

[candid cloud]

vet needs 1 + 3x5% in talents + perks or just 2

I just run 2 bc more number and some breathing room above 200

plus vet has +50 toughness from curios and iron will and shout

[modern lintel]

https://open.spotify.com/track/6XVMz29FWmC904bsCd4SU7?si=tHDD0IltTgCMElvGJZq-uA
@rocky nacelle

[candid cloud]

so like, you're all good

[plucky gate]

yeah with vet it depends on your tree cause you might miss a 5%.
Psyker will almost always grab the 10% from above warp rider

[candid cloud]

with zealot you need some amount of +hp so you're above 200 and not just at 200

[plucky gate]

psyker with 21% + tree will land you 197 for the sniper breakpoint
1 more hp curio perk for 205 hp will land you a burster breakpoint

[candid cloud]

it probably doesn't hurt to run a full hp curio as zealot bc the perks are so much lower value compared to the full curio

21%/5% vs 17%/5%

[hard nexus]

but

toughness

[plucky gate]

i would much rather have toughness on zealot just because until death exists

[hard nexus]

yummers

[hard nexus]

also true

[plucky gate]

toughness is meant for constant overall protection because it keeps coming back, and hp stronger for big nukes in short bursts
but we are immune to big nukes

[candid cloud]

the modifiers are additive too though

[plucky gate]

sure but hp just doesn't have value for me

i end up playing at low hp most of the time anyways and not caring

[frosty herald]

https://open.spotify.com/track/4mx756ehrFAIky4IeJKOUa?si=ecdb7dff18924968

[candid cloud]

2x toughness + 3 perks is 49%. Adding one more 17% is a net increase of 11.4% toughness

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-squidward-meme-squidward-crying-gif-5817167124674521051

[plucky gate]

like mathmatically that's true but health just has less practical value on this class

maybe biased cause most of my zealot gameplay is martyrdom, but i do full toughness when not martyr anyways

[opal star]

getting revived on your last wound in tox flamer fire

[hard nexus]

i do full toughness on zealot

full toughness, 3 hp 3 toughness

[grizzled aspen]

RAAAAA I FUCKIN POPPED MY JAW AGAIN

WHY DOES IT MAKE MY ENTIRE FACE GET COLD

[hard nexus]

crack

[gleaming furnace]

Hope you shouties all had a happy helloween … jk I know zealot mains never go outside lmao

[plucky gate]

if you really think about it, we have infinite health for five seconds so actually that's a +0% gain relatively

[hard nexus]

pinching a nerve probably

[jagged cradle]

What?

[stone fern]

blood flow

[hard nexus]

says the one named downbad4dukane

[stone fern]

who isnt

[hard nexus]

me

[stone fern]

yer missing out

[hard nexus]

i’m down bad for other characters

[gleaming furnace]

I literally touched grass last night

[gleaming furnace]

Fuck off she’s mine

[hard nexus]

nope

[atomic wolf]

What’s the dump stat for thunder hammer?

[stone fern]

we live in concrete jungles

[hard nexus]

defenses

[stone fern]

theres no grass

defence

[gleaming furnace]

Def

[hard nexus]

slow

[stone fern]

.t

[gleaming furnace]

I confess it was just astroturf probably

[hard nexus]

you touched fake grass

[stone fern]

i dont even know what that word means

[frosty herald]

jane doe and yanagi

[hard nexus]

that’s worse than not touching grass

[hard nexus]

hell no

i’m not down bad for the gooner bait

[stone fern]

isnt astroturf a weird political word?

[hard nexus]

yeap

[candid cloud]

it's both

[stone fern]

should i care or remain ignorant?

[gleaming furnace]

Yes

[hard nexus]

@light badge

[stone fern]

NEVER GOON

[hard nexus]

u still wanna get carried in aurics

?

[stone fern]

wow

what about me?

[gleaming furnace]

No lol it’s just fake grass cus I live in a horrible desert wasteland that gets rain like twice a year

[hard nexus]

if i carry her i’ll carry u too

i can solo

it’s okay

[candid cloud]

i mean it's just like, a kind of deceptive marketing/pr where the marketer hides that they're a marketer

[stone fern]

(i was kidding i am going to sleep soon)

[candid cloud]

like fake grass pretending to be real grass

someone will pretend to be naturally recommending a product or endorsing someone

when they're actually just paid

[stone fern]

so im astroturfing meow into thinking i can play rn

[hard nexus]

it also applies to politics though

[gleaming furnace]

I’m sorry I have a condition that prevents me from understanding humor or sarcasm much like everyone else that lives in this channel

[candid cloud]

the trick is that politics is also advertising

[frosty herald]

tldr astroturfing is artifically boosting positivity by posting fake reviews/comments

[stone fern]

me too

[hard nexus]

you can say the a word

it’s ok

[stone fern]

i dont think anyone here knows what it means

[merry flume]

coworker core tier post

[gleaming furnace]

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-nah-id-win-gif-11399565856913576326

[stone fern]

"disguise (an orchestrated marketing or public relations campaign) in such a way as to present it as having arisen from unsolicited public comments."

were all wrong

[paper harness]

did lacerate get banned

[stone fern]

yes

[merry flume]

yeah i wonder why

[spare talon]

for what

that post?

[paper harness]

I told him more than once

[grizzled aspen]

My darktide just crashed on loading in wtf.

[hard nexus]

which one

what

[spare talon]

or was it the pinch discussion

[hard nexus]

why’d he get banned

[stone fern]

dt moment

[hard nexus]

oh hi vic

[gleaming furnace]

That was like a million years ago

[merry flume]

shouldn't have to tell them once

hi meow

[gleaming furnace]

Who tf cares

[hard nexus]

[hard nexus]

me because i’m nosy

[merry flume]

coworker core

[gleaming furnace]

You know there’s a dating app for the terminally online

[merry flume]

when the warhammer fan gets banned for doing something a warhammer fan does

[hard nexus]

was it a racist meme

[rocky nacelle]

discord

[merry flume]

probably idk

[paper harness]

it was not me who had hgim shot

[hard nexus]

what got him banned!!

[south grove]

uhhh

[merry flume]

being a redditor

[south grove]

I went to whole foods lol

I'm back now if you wanna queue

[gleaming furnace]

Good. R*dditoids gtfo

[merry flume]

please stop revealing your power level to me

[uneven galleon]

Relax, L*berals, it's called dark hmor

[jagged cradle]

If you find out tell me :3

[gleaming furnace]

Are you now broke ?

[south grove]

No

[frosty herald]

relax humor its called liberal dark

[south grove]

I have a decent job

[paper harness]

convo between him and orcka that 100% vilated the rules

[gleaming furnace]

Make me uwu

[exotic citrus]

How much are we loving the bolt pistol? Any good?

[gleaming furnace]

I enjoy it

[paper harness]

@hard nexus

[jagged cradle]

From yesterday or a new one?

[south grove]

Revolver sidegrade that synergises w/ the crusher

mag reload is nice

[paper harness]

It was not me who reported it so i am not sure who did

[gleaming furnace]

Being a discord moderator isn’t a real job lmao

[hard nexus]

did orcka get shot too

[paper harness]

last night

[south grove]

???

[paper harness]

no

[south grove]

I work a night shift

[hard nexus]

or was orcka being reasonable

[gleaming furnace]

That’s a shame

[south grove]

for a company's QA

pays well enough to support me through school & stupid shit

[grizzled aspen]

Dorn ain't a mod.

TINTIN I INVITED YOU JOIN MY TEAM MF

[south grove]

they think I'm a mod

[exotic citrus]

Trying to get away from the revolver. Wanted a side arm that felt better.

[gleaming furnace]

… I was kidding

[south grove]

restarting

[paper harness]

yes

[hard nexus]

ok but but what did lacerate say

were they being racist

inciting violence

[paper harness]

politics

[hard nexus]

homophobic

ah

of course

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1298101918517952542/1301842275663613974/attachment.gif

[paper harness]

i fuckin said can it multiple times lmao

[merry flume]

critical brain rot discussing politics during election season like nobody cares this is a videogame discord

[south grove]

The Margave family is incompetent, and should be dethroned from the Moebian Domain.

[paper harness]

Real and true!

[grizzled aspen]

@hard nexus start here and read.

[hard nexus]

it’s a 40k discord server no less, everyone here is going to be either super gay or dropping slurs every chance they get

[hard nexus]

swag thankyou

[gleaming furnace]

Yea fr I come here as a way to cope with reality not to engage with it

[gleaming furnace]

This is is truest thing I’ve ever read

[paper harness]

.

[grizzled aspen]

Note, I did not say anything or take sides there, I just told Meow where to start reading if she wants the tea that badly.

[frosty herald]

orcka was being the more annoying one

[exotic citrus]

I'm with it

[paper harness]

it is orka

[gleaming furnace]

Yea ofc

[hard nexus]

LOL

[gleaming furnace]

However he was responsible for this gem

[merry flume]

me when i post an emoji that makes incels burst into flames

[gleaming furnace]

So I vote to give him a pass cus he stopped the permanently

[hard nexus]

this reminds me of a certain post regarding escaping reality and space marine 2

someone here probably knows what i’m talking about

[frosty herald]

when the emoji specifically used to belittle someone makes someone upset

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-lateralus-parabol-third-eye-tool-gif-16499016

[merry flume]

if u smoke a bunch of weed and play videogames it's almost like that

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[hearty tinsel]

So, I want to be over 200, but 276 is too much. If the goal is to break 200, and if I start at 200, couldn't I just slap a refinement 5% (10%?) health on it?

On one of them*

[grizzled aspen]

I just wanted to make it evidently clear in case someone wants to report me for dumb shit. That's how I got banned from the d2 lfg.

[hard nexus]

erm mods

mods

frog is talking politics

and wants to kill women

killl this man

pinch emoji here

[void bison]

🥚

[grizzled aspen]

One of the mods in that discord really didn't like me because I insulted one of their grubs for actively disrupting a raid.

[void bison]

egg

EGG

[merry flume]

yeah but malding to the point that people now know ur being on the receiving end is the biggest part of the joke

[hard nexus]

why do eggful

[south grove]

The Margraves has done nothing to aid in moebian prime's chaos incursions and were the ones who welcomed the Traitoris Militarum regiment of the Moebian 6th back in with open arms.

[grizzled aspen]

🤏 🌭

[paper harness]

I would complain if you got banned

[merry flume]

NOOO NOT MY GLIZZY

[hard nexus]

dorn protects the personalities

[grizzled aspen]

Wack.

[south grove]

The family should be dethroned from the Moebian Domain and be replaced with another, more competent family to lord over this system.

[grizzled aspen]

HISTG gloriana because the maelstrom fucking sucks.

[south grove]

This si HI

not even HISTG

[merry flume]

i think the funniest part is that you really, reeeeally gotta try to get banned from this discord

[grizzled aspen]

BRUH

W/e

[frosty herald]

its extremely easy

[paper harness]

I would complain if any of the core zealot chat members got booted for something not worth it

[void bison]

[frosty herald]

post anything the mods are biased against

[grizzled aspen]

Not really, I feel like I was toeing the line when I said something about hating dreadlocks the other day.

[merry flume]

no its not i'm in like 30 discords actively and i never have been warned

[jagged cradle]

Aww love you too

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1298101918517952542/1301842275663613974/attachment.gif

[jagged cradle]

I was joking about that !

[void bison]

I think he deserved worse

[jagged cradle]

I know how to play smite properly

[merry flume]

its called ur concious screaming at you to abide by the "if u dont have anything nice to say don't say anything at all" rule

[rocky nacelle]

d word

[paper harness]

I got an hour mute for saying the eldar were equally as bad as the imperium

[merry flume]

d*mmy?

[rocky nacelle]

nop

[hard nexus]

craftworlders?

[merry flume]

worse? 😟

[jagged cradle]

That’s pretty funny

[paper harness]

the eldar as a whole

[hard nexus]

i think craftworlders are pretty good compared to the imperium

[paper harness]

including dark eldaR

[jagged cradle]

??

[hard nexus]

ok well then that’s an issue because the existence of drukari drags down that average significantly

[frosty herald]

both are good

[merry flume]

i don't think what you said is inherently bad but that line of talking always makes the creeps show up and start being a little too heavy handed in their metaphors

[hard nexus]

that’d be like saying “yeah humanity sucks” and then adding that that includes chaos corrupted humans and marines

[void bison]

penis.

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/pepsi-soda-bottle-of-pepsi-gif-1878277565018148786

[frosty herald]

🅱️ enis

[stable cypress]

Craftworlders more like crapworlders aah gotem

[void bison]

Pepsi would taste better if it was called Epsi

[merry flume]

honestly a cold, crisp, refreshing pepsi™️ would be so good right now

[void bison]

it is a TERRIBLE beverage

[merry flume]

the carbonated sugar drink...is bad for me? 😟

[void bison]

even in matters of taste it's value is in question!!!!

[merry flume]

i only buy soda if it's part of takeout or i'm out and about

i don't drink soda at home

[void bison]

if it has that much sugar it should taste better than a diet root beer/Dr pepper

[spare talon]

how does the fact that im currently playing the mobile destiny game make you guys feel

[void bison]

and it DOESN'T

[frosty herald]

now what if we destroyed commorrach by destroying its gelar fields

[void bison]

condolences

[merry flume]

lemonade, applejuice, grape juice, and cranberry juice are the only non-water beverages in my home

[pale spindle]

was talking about a Korean feminist movement, they started making shit up about a twitter post where the """""""movement""""" apparently laced bleach in a guy's coffee because they were a man in a position of power. They then made a comparison of Nazis targeting minorities.

I basically said that this shit sounds like MRA misinformation to try to compare feminism to Nazism and "men oppression"

[frosty herald]

how monetized is it

[hard nexus]

pawesome

[hard nexus]

pity

[void bison]

that's pretty sugar loaded too but it's all good dw I eat more sugar than a continent of people

[merry flume]

you could tell me apple juice was actively killng me and i would still drink it

[pale spindle]

i didn't even report them to the mods, they just sniped him themselves lmao

[merry flume]

i love me appy joos

[void bison]

we all die anyways so drink up!!!!

[spare talon]

idk yet but i know theres g*cha in it cuz ofc there is its made by net ease

[vague depot]

did you just censor gacha

it cannot be this deep

[void bison]

numbers.

[paper harness]

Yeah so you do not get addicted to another one

[vague depot]

martyrdom does not give any ranged buffs whatsoever right

[vague depot]

is now a good time to say i started playing snowbreak

[south grove]

ogryn lit the barrel.

[frosty herald]

a fella like me would bash the burster

[undone flame]

What

[paper harness]

more real than you know

there is only 5 mods anyway

[south grove]

OGRYN FUCKING BARRELED ME INTO THE FUCKING HOST

[paper harness]

the rest are for show

[south grove]

FUCK THIS OGRYN

[vague depot]

Is this destiny mobile

[jagged cradle]

…

[rocky nacelle]

destiny

[south grove]

@grizzled aspen

[frosty herald]

i no joke thought this was borderlands for a sec

[rocky nacelle]

bolter with scope

cursed

[frosty herald]

localization= 1

[paper harness]

perhapos mods who are not active should not be mods or have the perks that being one gets you

[undone flame]

What the fuck

[spare talon]

it doesnt have the mobile ui cuz i have a controller plugged in

[frosty herald]

only aquilla gawain and skele would be left lmao

[undone flame]

Bad or good?

[frosty herald]

i dont even know what sevenproxy does

most likely absolutely nothing

[paper harness]

admin

community support at FS

plus hank if you are a content creator and dilaria

mandatory hi jtc i know you search your name

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/mod-emre-gif-20881431

Honestly I could see you doing that, Dorn >.>

especially to a smyker <.<

[frosty herald]

i forgor

[spare talon]

Honestly, considering this is a closed alpha of a mobile game of destiny
It's not that bad

[void bison]

I should be alcoholic

[undone flame]

Hows the gameplay

[spare talon]

well i mean i have a video of a story mission boss right there

[frosty herald]

funny how the abilities and entire setting look cooler in this game

[undone flame]

It's uncanny to see

[spare talon]

they have a goth girl in this game so
idk which way western man and so forth

[spare talon]

tbf i have everything set on minimum graphical settings

[frosty herald]

i need names

[undone flame]

Whos the dev?

Not bungie i am guessing

[frosty herald]

netease

[undone flame]

Zamm

[merry flume]

oh so it's a gacha game

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-devious-rubbing-hands-evil-suspicious-gif-26037341

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/xrd-exrd-crypto-btc-eth-gif-23801255

[spare talon]

yeah entirely netease
supposedly a little bit of consulting to make sure its "destiny" enough but people cant complain to bungie about wasting resources making a mobile game when they didnt even make it lmao

[spare talon]

yeah unfortunately

i am still giving the closed alpha a shot and havent reached a point where i can see how tainted it is

[frosty herald]

destiny 2's story be so good when modern bungie isnt involved

[spare talon]

oh no this story is dogshit
dialogue is the most robotic shit ever

[frosty herald]

damn

[spare talon]

but youre not here for that youre here cuz its destiny but on your phone

but the game feels good enough in terms of gameplay all things considered

it both being a mobile game and also being in an alpha stage

[paper harness]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/how-to-make-darktide-more-challenging/100758/5

why do i fucking read the forums

"dreg gunners are unyielding"

[placid fiber]

Next up: The Darktide gacha game

[paper harness]

AAAAAAAAHHHHH

[frosty herald]

people saw the warlock scythe and went crazy

[spare talon]

like if you wanna know how alpha this game is, about half the dialogue lines are done by AI because they havent finished reecording them so theyre a placeholder for the moment

[placid fiber]

oh wait, we already had that

[south grove]

I went on a specialist racism run.

[grizzled aspen]

@south grove I will return after I eat, my parents have invited me for chicken fried steak.

[placid fiber]

Isn't that literally just every run?

[plucky gate]

i can only assume this is a joke

[placid fiber]

If you aren't being a specialist racist, are you really darktiding? lol

[grizzled aspen]

I use the scope only to snipe shit thats too far for tknives, otherwise its hipfire only.

[south grove]

That ogryn is missing his frontal lobe.

Unless he really hates us.

He barreled you first, then me into a host.

[grizzled aspen]

I would've but boltgun has some spots in the reload anim that you can't bash from.

So I just swapped to the sword.

[grizzled aspen]

Def missing his frontal lobe.

[frosty herald]

ok so

[grizzled aspen]

I was trying to break the ice on the heat shields and he just kept cycling the barriers.

[south grove]

And bro would not let the button go lmfao.

[frosty herald]

you can bash after you put in the mag

[south grove]

Button = Click Click Click

[frosty herald]

but if you bash before you touch the bolt you dont reload

[grizzled aspen]

Oh yeah ik but I'm not bothering to think that hard and my sword is right there.

[south grove]

What if I take VoC without Duty And Honour?

How would that make you feel?

[haughty haven]

Is it still shred and rampage for evis?

15 obvs for a piety build

[placid fiber]

make sure you path through twin nades as well

[south grove]

I use Perfect Strike/Shred :P

Idk if that's the optimal choice tho.

[plucky gate]

it has been raining all week and today my socks are slightly moist

man this sucks

[placid fiber]

it's probably either or

[haughty haven]

I take it perfect is new?

[south grove]

Shred might be redundant.

[south grove]

Yea

[haughty haven]

Does it allow you to hit more than 4 enemies?

[placid fiber]

what about for funny niche constant critting?

[pale spindle]

what weapon is this?

[placid fiber]

eviscerator

[south grove]

That's good n all but piety has already got it covered.

[haughty haven]

Evis 15

[south grove]

Evis

[pale spindle]

PS has been in the game for a while

long before this patch

[haughty haven]

On the evis tho?

[pale spindle]

yes

always had it

[placid fiber]

wasn't it something like only t3 before?

[haughty haven]

Oh I was always told everything but shred and rampage is mid cuz of the hard cap on evis

[placid fiber]

like blaze away

[pale spindle]

PS makes it so that everything is like hitting a poxwalker

[rocky nacelle]

does it actually work cause of the mod?

[pale spindle]

even bullwalks which is funny

[rocky nacelle]

thats pretty sick

[haughty haven]

Yee but still only 4 enemies

[rocky nacelle]

rampage/shred good on both evisc marks, mk3 can use savage sweep, and mk15 can use bloodthirsty

[south grove]

It's a holosight encased in a shell

[placid fiber]

except with the revved light which is up to 6 iirc

[south grove]

I can take a picture

[haughty haven]

I'm really bad at anything but piety lol

[plucky gate]

i do shred rampage on mine, but i'm not on piety.

[haughty haven]

@paper harness saw what happens when I try new shit on zealot the other night lol

[pale spindle]

yeah but the value of it is that you can always cleave thru everything in a mixed horde, even if there are things that would ussually block it

[rocky nacelle]

if you want a piety evisc build i can make 1

[haughty haven]

Although to be fair I was trying my best to keep this really bad pub alive and that ended up killing me like twice tryna get at him

[pale spindle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d1122f5-8a50-4b29-a5a8-561f71ddb3a7/eviscerator-thru-butter?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

its a fun build

[haughty haven]

Piety is p straightforward lol

[plucky gate]

mk15 evis is pretty easy to play

[pale spindle]

not sure it is optimal tho

[plucky gate]

has a lot of stagger and range

very safe

[rocky nacelle]

if I go a piety build nowadays

its usually stalwart

I think only my ds4 is using right side piety

[plucky gate]

i only really use it on martyr though cause i feel it needs the aspd

[rocky nacelle]

pretty nice cause stalwart is cracked and saves a free point to use

[haughty haven]

Yeah it's safe. I was trying middle of the top of tree instead of right and momentum instead of piety and got my dick handed to me lol

With ds4

But in the past I'd settled on mk15

That right side takes alot of being bad out of the equation lol

[plucky gate]

are you just finding piety easier cause the crit dr and the cooldown reduction node?

[grizzled aspen]

Yes, it zooms.

It sways like a mf though.

[rocky nacelle]

well yea thats bolter

no biggie for a borderlands gamer

(some guns have un godly sway)

[grizzled aspen]

Don't aim with your crosshair, just aim with the center of your screen, the sway is visual only.

[haughty haven]

Yeah i think it's the fact that it went mid on top instead of right and am used to relying on the crit dr to carry me through

[plucky gate]

i end up relying entirely on fotf and shred/scourge crits and taking these with martyrdom

[rocky nacelle]

enduring faith do be a little silly

[untold lily]

Yee

[haughty haven]

I hate Marty lol

[plucky gate]

the martyrdom damage reduction also helps

[plucky gate]

toughness just barely ever goes down

[grizzled aspen]

Then dodge.

[haughty haven]

Idk why but zealot is like my worst char for survival

[plucky gate]

i think stacking damage reduction with martyrdom is a lot more braindead than most people assume

it feels a lot safer in practice

[haughty haven]

I dodge alot lol I'm psyker I'm used to that shit all the time, it's just I get myself into a lot of predicaments with zealot that I can't fight my way out of safely lol

Whereas with psyker I tend to flatten literally everything before I move forward it's just easy to get ahead of my self on zealot

[untold lily]

I just do throwing knife -> toughness aura -> chargy ability -> left keystone with right tree -> then candy shop

[undone flame]

Use book

[visual stream]

That's strange, I find zealot the easiest to sustain as, only second to shout vet

Ogryn probably the least consistent

[haughty haven]

I find all of them easier than zealot lol

[plucky gate]

martyrdom zealot with crit evis
hold w and mash mouse 1
easiest gameplay ever (until 1 trapper appears)

[visual stream]

KD is huge for psyker though, I'll give you that

[undone flame]

Psyker has good passive regen of toughness but you have to be more active for zelot.
Though dodge to regain toughness is your best way

[untold lily]

Can confirm

[haughty haven]

Ogryn gets toughness from hitting or shooting things, vet gets shout and just is tanky, psyker recharges toughness from virtually everything

[grizzled aspen]

Post build.

[copper hawk]

Power YAWNi

[haughty haven]

Psykers only defense is active regen