zealot-class

[placid fiber]

Merc is op lol

If you don't use slicing winds that's you're fault

[sullen forge]

Can I bring up Executioner at all or are we strictly talking vanilla

[placid fiber]

executioner is goated

[dark spire]

I agree, still not as good as most of the cast

[placid fiber]

I mean if you want pure boredom just use loader

[sullen forge]

The Alt F4 the general area class

[dark spire]

Sniper / Loader / Acrid / Engineer

Based

[placid fiber]

Engineer relies on turrets, railgunner and loader are just op and are boring, Acrid is based

[dark spire]

Rex also insanely based, but not my playstyle

[placid fiber]

Rex is hit or miss

[honest burrow]

What should I be putting on my Curios?

[placid fiber]

Yes

[dark spire]

You can just place them inside rocks if you wanna be a cringer

Or trees

[placid fiber]

I played engineer more when I got an alt utility

default utility is boring

[dark spire]

Ability cooldown / Stam Regen / Health / Toughness / Gunner res

[sullen forge]

This Returns or 2 we’re talking here

[placid fiber]

ability cooldown sucks

[dark spire]

2

[sullen forge]

Cause I’m a hardcore pilot main on Returns

Occasionally on 2

[placid fiber]

4% cdr for a whole perk slot

[dark spire]

I played OG and 2, not returns

[placid fiber]

I played OG, 2, and returns

[sullen forge]

Returns is so good

Recently got modding support

[dark spire]

S tier imo. Let's agree to disagree.

[honest burrow]

So either Health or Toughness as the main stat and then the other three or mix and match all that depending on preference?

[placid fiber]

only returns achievements I'm missing are judgement skins

[dark spire]

Nobody agrees on this.
On Zealot I run 3x Toughness or 2x Toughness and 1x 3 Stam.

[placid fiber]

oh yeah... 1.2s cd is so useful... when you have 20% cdr on backstab kill and +200% ability rate on crit...

especially since it has diminishing returns when you use cdr talents

[placid fiber]

3 toughness or 2 toughness and 1hp/stamina

[dark spire]

Shaving off 3.6s ain't bad no matter how you put it.

[placid fiber]

unless marty

[placid fiber]

So I can give up 15% more health or toughness or a 20% resist and 10% of those for 3.6s lower cd?

Which loses value when you have cdr talents

[dark spire]

Yes

[placid fiber]

unlike more health and toughness which doesn't lose value

[sullen forge]

Paladin is kinda… strong

[dark spire]

Health and Toughness loses value the more you dodge / play correctly

[merry flume]

give love to acrid

NOW

[dark spire]

CDR just gets better the better you play

[placid fiber]

so having health and toughness when fatshark bullshits you is less valuable

[sullen forge]

Have you know I play Arsonist and Executioner

[dark spire]

Never happens

[merry flume]

i love all the nemesis classes

[placid fiber]

It happens in heresy, the only way it isn't happening is if you only play malice

[sullen forge]

The PEAK classes

[merry flume]

nemesis commando goes so hard

[sullen forge]

Prefer Nem Merc

[merry flume]

nemesis merc needs to be polished

[dark spire]

I'm done shitposting on discord for today, my workhours are over. Cya tomorrow for more hot takes.
I only play auric damn/maelstrom unless my friend is leveling a new char.

[merry flume]

but is VERY fun

[faint vapor]

man I wish I could say the same

[placid fiber]

next up: woundgryn, by Krets

[grizzled tusk]

I want something to complement knife; I'm looking at flamer, but I read many times that perks for it are flak + sth (elites / cara...)
why flak?

[dark spire]

I recently got my ogryn to 30 and absolutely hate playing that class.

[sullen forge]

Peak brain dead fun is NemForcer

[placid fiber]

You hate playing the easiest class to play?

[dark spire]

That's Zealot, not ogre

[placid fiber]

Good one lol

[dark spire]

Ogryn has only one true crutch talent that I can think of, the one that knocks shit back when you lose your Feel No Pain stacks.

[placid fiber]

Bro can't play the easiest class

which comes with 20% dr and 20% toughness dr right out the gate

[merry flume]

does it come with an egg roll?

[placid fiber]

I mean you can throw a rock, so yes

[merry flume]

if you think of rocks when you eat egg rolls you must be the most surburban guy ever

[placid fiber]

[dark spire]

Didn't say I can't play it, I don't like the gameplay loop.

[sullen forge]

My edible hard tack

[dark spire]

Spamming slow hitting heavies isn't fun imo. Reloading after every friggens shot with my shotgun as well......

[merry flume]

we have like 14th generation chinese family take out spot here that makes god tier egg rolls

they also have a philly cheesesteak eggroll that is actually crumb your jorts good

[obtuse solstice]

man fuck getting max stats curios

spenk 20k didn't get shit

[placid fiber]

I mean don't buy random curios from melk

just check the dockets shop every hour

until then work with the best you're given

16% toughness and 20% health curios work perfectly fine until you can get 17% and 21% ones

[plucky gate]

alternatively, do it anyways and just be luckier

gambling never hurt anyone

you could be 1 random curio away from winning big!

[placid fiber]

gets a 1 stamina curio on the ogryn

[mighty root]

Egg wuh

[placid fiber]

roll made out of eggnog

[mighty root]

@south grove

[placid fiber]

@acoustic dune

[acoustic dune]

i dont even use that website

[placid fiber]

[mighty root]

This implies he uses others

[acoustic dune]

no shit sherlock

[mighty root]

To spank his hog

[mighty root]

[placid fiber]

I think anyone with any ounce of intelligence could figure that out lol

[mighty root]

Ur so mean to me

[acoustic dune]

i crank my hogs in a lot of ways

including in your walls

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/general-chicken-with-rice-eggroll-can-i-get-a-eggroll-with-it-kq-it-come-wit-eggwuh-gif-3825448863695810314

lmaooooo

[mighty root]

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-gif-25011344

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/chihuahua-uncomfortable-gif-317720649137245860

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/merry-christmas-love-black-guy-gif-13356234737839029056

[merry flume]

its not even halloween

[placid fiber]

I love how the dog's eyes are on opposite sides lol

[acoustic dune]

yes its quite early chirstmas

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/mariah-carey-mariah-thaw-mariah-its-time-gif-16738709405623655812

[mighty root]

Kiss me homie

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/never-goon-goon-minion-never-goon-minion-gif-5467301625900076416

[mighty root]

[acoustic dune]

sure
pull your pants down

[zinc talon]

buy me dinner first

[acoustic dune]

no

yours stay up

[placid fiber]

I knew it! I knew you were in the Mafia!

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/pants-dance-funny-bounce-bouncing-gif-15206271

[placid fiber]

Sorry, can't. I'm broke af lol

[zinc talon]

chris christie, everyone

[mighty root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978850978335961130/1260711674227327017/twitter-1811041791376035840-ezgif.com-optimize.gif

[placid fiber]

Chris Christodoulou

[zinc talon]

the, uh....

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/cate-gif-24884841

[zinc talon]

I want to say governor of new york

[mighty root]

I love taking it in the back

[zinc talon]

something around that

[mighty root]

I’m freaky as hell

[placid fiber]

Guy who made music for risk of rain, deadbolt, and more stuff lol

[acoustic dune]

bro prob like a back shot

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/mei-mei-meimei-cat-hiss-lock-in-gif-17688478194235498727

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/pistol-airsoft-pew-pew-novritsch-airsoft-shooting-gif-24626193

[zinc talon]

what in the larping tactination

[placid fiber]

@zinc talon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGXPAoyP_cg

[zinc talon]

my god that dude's facial expression

[mighty root]

Me playing with my hog

[zinc talon]

wait til he hears about actual guns

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-sexy-pig-sexy-fat-bikini-sexy-back-gif-12315959

[zinc talon]

the male gaze is drawn by evolution

[placid fiber]

Damn it I've been around these people way too long lol

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/diddy-baby-oil-oil-him-up-xllcarolinellx-gif-12157753233357456797

[zinc talon]

yall all looked til it clicked

dnying it only makes you a weirdo

[acoustic dune]

so did you

weirdo

[placid fiber]

but... I am a weirdo...

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/birds-kiss-gif-13863382

[acoustic dune]

ok now lets kiss

[acoustic dune]

french animation

[mighty root]

Took so pre workout for darktide and some pills and now my stomach hurts so bad

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-typing-and-then-they-kissed-writing-blogging-gif-9529086

[zinc talon]

okay I haw'd

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/peach-and-goma-gif-16302490032000255283

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/wurm-worm-waves-floating-gif-17709777

[placid fiber]

Man... I need some blood on the dancefloor

[light badge]

level 68 ASS ogryn
presses W into ranged units
gets downed
leaves

[acoustic dune]

oh nice simulaiton

[light badge]

why are ogryn players just consistently the most terrible gamers

[placid fiber]

they can't play the easiest class

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/biden-gif-21350747

[acoustic dune]

might be great for like a bionic type snake

[mighty root]

Garloid

[acoustic dune]

with fake skin

[zinc talon]

yeah pretty sure it's a blender or something render demo

[placid fiber]

Also they think ogryn = tank @light badge

[acoustic dune]

that aint no render preivew

you pulling me jank

[acoustic dune]

also i gotta get good at blender

maya give me too much headache

in the idk what i am doing and more

i hat eit here

[placid fiber]

They meant all ogryn players besides you

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile I just run 5% health, 5% toughness, and 20% gunner resist on my 3 curios lol

[acoustic dune]

gunner with u toughness is neat

literal tank

[placid fiber]

and I still play like a dps lol

[acoustic dune]

more tank then ogryn

[acoustic dune]

i play like tis a arcade machine

walk

shoot

be done with life

its that shrimple

[placid fiber]

wait this is a point and click adventure, right?

[placid fiber]

Just like Doom

[acoustic dune]

erm no?

[zinc talon]

as of right now, mauler overheads only require 10% of my stamina

[acoustic dune]

its duck hunt

[zinc talon]

and crusher overheads only take 20%

I can out regen any single enemy in darktide

yep even that one you just thought of, bosses included

[placid fiber]

burgle

[acoustic dune]

when i ever want to touch ogryn again

i need to try the shield once more

[zinc talon]

and when my stamina hits 0% either by letting em whack the shield or I lower it on purpose via pushing

the blessing causes an aoe that assplants every single enemy around me

[placid fiber]

(cause burgle will puke on you then devour vore you)

[acoustic dune]

do you need block effiency?

[zinc talon]

by the time they get bakc up to hit me again, I'm already at 60%+

[acoustic dune]

just stab it until it puke

[zinc talon]

yeah, I posted the shield/curio setup

[placid fiber]

So what's your karsolas set-up?

[zinc talon]

blockmaxxing gets me 86% total block cost reduction as of now

[mighty root]

@spare talon

[stone fern]

who the hell hacked my feed and is shoving jjk sm2 memes down my throat?

[acoustic dune]

does toughness regen play with the keystone?

[acoustic dune]

OKRI POST THE ONE WITHOUT TEETH

[placid fiber]

Don't know, I'm too busy listening to Undead Man Walkin'

[stone fern]

what

[violet hornet]

What's your talent tree for this setup look like? Definitely looks interesting

[placid fiber]

That one has teeth

[placid fiber]

That one has tooth

[acoustic dune]

someone has a folder of these

i remenber

[zinc talon]

one sec let me find them, I have a couple

[placid fiber]

Someone has a folder of plenty of cursed shit lol

[acoustic dune]

i used to have some aswell

[placid fiber]

I used to copy every pic my friends sent in our dm channel

[zinc talon]

this vanilla inventory UI is punishment for sins I haven't committed yet

[acoustic dune]

its in my drive now

[placid fiber]

and I mean right click it as soon as they posted it

so it opened in a window on chrome

[acoustic dune]

omg

[violet hornet]

We love a little pre chastisement

[placid fiber]

I had so much fucking cursed shit lol

[zinc talon]

because reasons

[mighty root]

I should make a psyker build

[placid fiber]

Where's your Karsolas build?!

[rocky marsh]

heavy evisc fucking sucks

[placid fiber]

I mean it only sucks if you suck, tbh >.>

[acoustic dune]

look at these lads

[violet hornet]

We hate... Completely visible generalist weapons?

[acoustic dune]

aw i miss playing with horse

n pony

[rocky marsh]

idk the heavy making me get stuck in stuff, i don't like

[violet hornet]

The fuck are you talking about

[violet hornet]

Are you confusing a chaxe with an eviscerator?

[placid fiber]

The weapon that can dea lwith any problem lol

[hard nexus]

skill issue im sorry

[placid fiber]

mk15 auto revs into a target on the heavy

for like 2 ticks

[acoustic dune]

MEOW LOOK AT THE HORSE PIC

[violet hornet]

Oh pfft who uses 15

[acoustic dune]

I TOOK LIKE A DECADE AGO

[hard nexus]

evis are very good

[rocky marsh]

and yet

Are you confusing a chaxe with an eviscerator?

[placid fiber]

people who multiply 5 times 3

[hard nexus]

lol awesome

[violet hornet]

15 is for light spamming only

[acoustic dune]

i swill have the hat with me

i has feathers on it now

[placid fiber]

I mean the mk4 auto revs on lights, and iirc the 12 auto revs on heavies

[acoustic dune]

prob pigeon or smth

[hard nexus]

ok well

[rocky marsh]

i mean, get your facts right first before questioning someone else ? :v

[hard nexus]

evis mk3 isnt amazing

but

they both are very usable

mk15 is better, mk3 is more fun

[zinc talon]

swapping this one and the next one's blessings vs perks

[violet hornet]

Says the guy saying evi sucks

[rocky marsh]

how am i supposed to use it?
genuine question

[hard nexus]

which one

[placid fiber]

Yes

[rocky marsh]

15

[paper harness]

Psyker main

[violet hornet]

Ahh lmao

[frosty herald]

people are already posting rey dau hunt times

[violet hornet]

Back to ds4 for him I guess

[placid fiber]

the mk4 chai- Oh wait, you aren't Bandit...

[rocky marsh]

one can be argued to be a matter of preference or opinion. the other is completely factual.

[frosty herald]

your joking

[zinc talon]

I was testing how much of a difference in damage a non-80 pick is with thrust vs one with

also funnee numbarr

[frosty herald]

you dont know how to use mk15?

[hard nexus]

light spam for hordes, rev for single target

shred/bloodthirsty rampage

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iE9WgDUtBK69iLof4/d13372XcZ2go?invite=cr-MSxCQ3ksMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[rocky marsh]

idk either i build it wrong or im using it wrong.

[hard nexus]

this is with bloodthirsty

[violet hornet]

When you try to sound smart but sound barely literate instead

[placid fiber]

the mk15 is literally light spam for hordes and heavy for single target

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-beerus-dragon-ball-super-super-hero-gif-26606702

[placid fiber]

also marty with the mk15 is a trap

[frosty herald]

stop spamming revs....

[rocky marsh]

evisc suck --> could be matter of opinion.
You not knowing heavy evisc 15 auto revs on heavy --> ignorance

👍

[hard nexus]

its for bloodthirsty proc

[frosty herald]

every evis has a rev on heavies

[hard nexus]

for crit chains

[placid fiber]

Generally saying anything besides the autopistol sucks is a matter of opinion.

[frosty herald]

you get stuck on trash so you cant damage the entire cluster

autopistol sucking is a fact

[placid fiber]

exactly

[rocky marsh]

idk the guy says

The fuck are you talking about

Are you confusing a chaxe with an eviscerator?

[hard nexus]

you have a damage cap of 4 on unrevved lights, 6 on revs

yam

[frosty herald]

aaaaaaa

[hard nexus]

i am evis expert

trust me

[zinc talon]

who's evi

[frosty herald]

i know revs had some sort of upside on hordeclear

[placid fiber]

@rocky marsh Listen to Meow on the Eviscerator, and Bandit on the Chain-axe

[zinc talon]

so on the new evis

[frosty herald]

your an expert in deez

[hard nexus]

h1 on mk3 evis doesnt have a damage cap though

[zinc talon]

finding specials in big horde packs is hard

[hard nexus]

(the celave distro sucks though)

[zinc talon]

and easy to miss them cuz overhead swing arc

[placid fiber]

deez egg rolls?

[zinc talon]

if you activate the chainsaw

then light 1

[rocky marsh]

gimme 1 sec to go test some stuff before i ask you questions

[zinc talon]

it'll cleave through horde

[hard nexus]

alright

[zinc talon]

and stick to specials when it finds them

[hard nexus]

i can give u builds too

[acoustic dune]

Ey pg

Ey phil

[rocky marsh]

ya im not listening to some guy that gets butthurt he got called out :v

[zinc talon]

so you can use light 1 rev to hunt out specials hidden in hordes

[hard nexus]

mk3 evis is the more flexible evis, and can do a few different builds

[acoustic dune]

You are a brony right?

If I remenber

[zinc talon]

without risking missing them cuz overhead

[placid fiber]

Who?

[rocky marsh]

the jesse guy

[zinc talon]

the OG evis will do this too

[acoustic dune]

Jesse pink man?

[zinc talon]

but on heavy 1 rev

new evis does on light 1 rev

[placid fiber]

I mean I have brony history, not so much anymore

[acoustic dune]

I wanted to ask about music

[hard nexus]

have u seen my ranting about the mk13g chainsword

[rocky marsh]

a Jessie looked these days
jawaofjustice

[placid fiber]

I mean I'm not exactly a good person when it comes to music, but, okay

[zinc talon]

this jesse?

[placid fiber]

I mostly listened to Aviators, for the brony music

[zinc talon]

oh jeses not jesse yall been mispelling it this whole time

[placid fiber]

I suppose I listened to the Discord and Awoken songs as well...

[zinc talon]

I should know I read a book once

[hard nexus]

i ate a book once

[placid fiber]

Did you bark up the wrong tree?

[zinc talon]

I'm not allowed to carry scriptures back to the extract unless I pooped on the ship before we left

you mess up one time

[hard nexus]

you fuck one goat

[zinc talon]

and build a thousand bridges

[frosty herald]

shut

[mystic ether]

Crusher is fun weapon. No idea whether or not the powered up strikedown heavy is better than the normal one.

[violet hornet]

Hilarious seeing some clown trying to call you out in chat after you block him

[hard nexus]

more damage

but

[zinc talon]

H1 is the strongest swing crusher has except push attack

don't sleep on push attack

[hard nexus]

the empowered attacks all have different uses

[violet hornet]

Hmm wonder why he's been here one day 🤔

[frosty herald]

skullcrusher activates on crusher special aoe

[zinc talon]

but crusher detonation size and damage varies based on light/heavy attack

[mystic ether]

Been noticing that lately since I'm almost done with empowering mine.

[zinc talon]

to the tune of half damage or double damage depending on which you start from

[hard nexus]

empowered PA does more carapace damage than the empowered H1 (except with chastise

[hard nexus]

look in pins, theres a guide that lists combos and attack uses

blessings are inaccurate

but its still good

[mystic ether]

How is it with slaughterer?

[zinc talon]

crusher is my favorite weapon to bring hands down

I could firehose a brazilian things to know and tips/tricks

but!

[mystic ether]

Been running around with brittleness and hesdtaker.

[hard nexus]

slaughterer skullcrusher is the best way to run it

[zinc talon]

the agni shock maul's attack combo chains are identical to the crusher's

[rocky marsh]

this guy is funny. he blocked me yet view my messages.

[zinc talon]

if you're comfortable with one you're already good with the other

[rocky marsh]

@hard nexus uh, do you left click gunners?

[hard nexus]

ADMs are already great, brittleness isnt needed

oops

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOYRSUkPOq4HQjcXx?invite=cr-MSx6ak8sMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[hard nexus]

if theres more than like, 3, yes

[rocky marsh]

no blessing stack, 3 hit, with stacks, 2 hit

[placid fiber]

crusher doesn't have headtaker

[zinc talon]

prolly skullcrusher

[hard nexus]

although with bloodthirsty, crit revs kill them neigh instantly, so its also an option

[mystic ether]

Whatever the one is. Skullcrusher. Dmg on stagger

[hard nexus]

skullcrusher

yeah

[zinc talon]

skullcrusher's all but absolutely existential unless you've really found a niche setup you're good with

[placid fiber]

skullcrusher slaughterer is the way

[zinc talon]

the crusher's damage ramps like, exponetially as it is

[mystic ether]

I noticed.

Thing is way cooler than I remember it.

[acoustic dune]

THEY ARE BRONYS?

thats news to me

[placid fiber]

I mean it sucked for the longest time, but, then they reworked it

[rocky marsh]

weapon feels like horde clear isn't "great" and the mobility really is below average.
Im playing 5 stack wound build
do i need duelist for heavy evisc?

[hard nexus]

duelist is needed on every zealot build

its free damage

ill give u a build

[rocky marsh]

i don't run duelist on my cknife :p

[frosty herald]

what if every time we touched i get this feeling

[fleet zealot]

Dont need duelist on chaxe

[placid fiber]

I mean Aviators is a furry, but, that doesn't bother me since idc if you're a furry or not tbh

[fleet zealot]

Why?

[frosty herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1292603468497944698/RDT_20241005_190228553576971513151217.gif

[fleet zealot]

Literally the best weapon for duelist

[acoustic dune]

what baout the great furry brony wars?

that was orchestred by the scalies

[placid fiber]

Don't look at me, never heard of it

[rocky marsh]

eh points.
i run something abit off zealot-chat meta
my cknife build prioritizes killing gunners because i find killing gunners in one hit funny

[acoustic dune]

what do you mean?

[placid fiber]

I was a brony, furry stuff never interested me

[acoustic dune]

you were one of it general

[hard nexus]

carapace lets you chain oneshot crushers

bloodthirsty can be swapped for shred

[acoustic dune]

i remenber you giving a speech at the great friendship hall

[rocky marsh]

i don't like mommentum, esp after nerf

[placid fiber]

I don't know a lot of things, since you know... the whole adhd not paying attention stuff

[hard nexus]

its still extremely strong lol

[placid fiber]

[hard nexus]

and it buffs dodges

fixing your mobility complaint

[rocky marsh]

yeah about that, the rev one shot on crushers felt reeally cool in psk until i went in game and there were like 3 crushers together with 1 rager

[acoustic dune]

arent you a psycher main?

[placid fiber]

on the weapon that gets some of the highest returns from finesse damage?

[gleaming hawk]

👀

[hard nexus]

its not that hard to make use of lol

[rocky marsh]

i do dodge but like, the mommentum procs under a more strict condition compared to just "not get hit using dodges"

[acoustic dune]

are YOU the psycher main?

[hard nexus]

momentum builds stacks on dodge and movement, then you just attack an enemy

and then you get value out of those stacks

its that easy

its just free damage

[rocky marsh]

i tried mommentum multiple times with different weapons, i just don't like it :v

[gleaming hawk]

[frosty herald]

use piety instead if you dont like judgement

[rocky marsh]

i played zealot for a long while before i went to psyker

[hard nexus]

if you use piety, swap bloodthirsty for shred

[acoustic dune]

ok to the black ship you go

[rocky marsh]

wound build not good for heavy evisc?

[gleaming hawk]

They said I'm too dumb to be a sacrifice

[placid fiber]

YOu used wounds with judgement?

[gleaming hawk]

😔

[rocky marsh]

no wtf

[frosty herald]

martyr?

[rocky marsh]

ya

[acoustic dune]

the dumber the better

now get it

[placid fiber]

Marty is a bit of a trap, for some weapons

[mystic ether]

You gotta really build into martyrdom yeah? Does it even work?

[frosty herald]

iunno what to tell you then

[rocky marsh]

oh ya quick side track question
did they change the fire shotgun in the last 3-4 months?
(however long i was out)

nerf/buff in any way

[mystic ether]

You only need like two wound curios or something then the rest of it being that +4 wound shit

To get the 7?

[drifting wolf]

i think it was nerfed at some point but i don't remember what, might've been cleave count decrease on the special shell

[placid fiber]

I'm not the one to ask about the shotty, I've never really used the kantrael shotgun(or w/e they renamed it to)

[gleaming hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rangers-beast-morphers-dumb-mood-idiot-gif-15223106

[heavy arch]

kant shotty still fucks

[rocky marsh]

the fire cleave count i know
i meant like after that, did base weapon stats get changed

[acoustic dune]

wait a min

are orks just

ogryn but with psycher power?

[placid fiber]

fungus

[acoustic dune]

omg

[drifting wolf]

no

orks are mushroom men

[acoustic dune]

what if we

give warp power to ogryns?

[drifting wolf]

already exists

[acoustic dune]

wait wat

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iYFVnsnv0ZMkUUtW-?invite=cr-MSxnWXosMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[drifting wolf]

there's a female psyker ogryn and the eye of the storm exploding is implied to be making ogryns smarter in general

[obsidian ore]

no, I missed the convo, noooooooooooooo

[copper hawk]

Am NOT

[drifting wolf]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cassia_(Ogryn)

[paper harness]

You are

[frosty herald]

CASSIA

https://tenor.com/view/cassia-rogue-trader-40k-warhammer-40k-gif-7314184974718077922

[placid fiber]

Basically all I could tell you about the fire shotty is: It's not an autopistol, so it is viable for sure. As for how viable, not sure

[frosty herald]

the great rift made massive changes to the galaxy

[drifting wolf]

more psykers in general right

[frosty herald]

yup

lotta people had a psychic awakening

[drifting wolf]

truly an awful time to be a psyker-hating zealot

[zinc talon]

crusher? barely know her

[heavy arch]

awesome time*

[frosty herald]

more librarians and sanctioned psykers

[heavy arch]

hate is strength

[placid fiber]

inb4 Dorn does what I did, but, for psykers... and has 4 psykers...

[acoustic dune]

THATS A OGRYN?

[frosty herald]

no

a navigator

[acoustic dune]

goodness graccious

[zinc talon]

great balls of ire

(I need to see a doctor)

hate is stored in the balls

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-thumbs-up-muppet-disney-muppet-wiki-gif-17816760251279976348

[hard nexus]

i need 2 try lethal prox crusher

[placid fiber]

Does lethal proximity affect smoke grenades? lol

[zinc talon]

anyway whoever was asking the crusher's biggest offensive trait, counter intuitively, is its nimbleness inside of massed horde packs

[hard nexus]

dont think so

[zinc talon]

and the ease with which it will assplant rows of even big enemies

[drifting wolf]

he will have to eventually accept the growing number of psykers

[placid fiber]

I was imagining funny massive smoke nade twin nade meme-ery

[zinc talon]

^that clip was from my last mission just a sec ago, so current meta/weapon stats

[hard nexus]

for lethal prox, whats the other blessing on the bolt pistol? puncture?

[drifting wolf]

puncture usually

[hard nexus]

kk

[frosty herald]

the great rift has also increased the chance of an alpha level psyker to be born

[zinc talon]

right now I think run and gun which thanks for asking I need to swap off that one

run and gun is a ton of fun but

[frosty herald]

aka 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of an alpha level

[zinc talon]

with a good mobility pistol you're covering ground so quickly you hardly have time to use the sprint fire

[hard nexus]

yeah thats when im born

[zinc talon]

so just close the gap and swap to melee

[frosty herald]

theres only a handful of alphas in the galaxy

[hard nexus]

im one of them

[frosty herald]

2 twins a fire witch and magnus

[zinc talon]

oh wow I take it back

[placid fiber]

Pretty sure you aren't an alpha level psyker, you aren't annoying enough

[zinc talon]

run and gun stays

no wonder I'm fuckin lazer beem accurate at any distance

at the hip, on the move

[hard nexus]

imagine not dumping collateral

dweeeb

[fleet zealot]

I take puncture

Weirdly helps a ton of oneshot bps

[fleet zealot]

And you can blast 4 in a boss then swap to melee

[rocky marsh]

i don't like psk because its not good representation, esp since you will never have this much space.
I think the problem is that im not taking bloodthristy

should i take bloodthirsty plus the damage or bloodthirsty plus the cleave?

[zinc talon]

imagine thinking 20 points in reload speed is worth two tenths of a second

[drifting wolf]

i probably need a new jod rolled bistol if collateral is the dump stat and not mobility

[hard nexus]

cleave blessings are bait on the mk15 evis, its got 10 cleave innate, and due to the damage cap, you dont get much value from it

[placid fiber]

imagine thinking 80 points in charge speed is worth 0.25 seconds on 2 or 3 staves...

[hard nexus]

collateral is useless on the BP though

[rocky marsh]

hmmm, i saw savage sweep got recommended, so sorry could yo utype again what blessings you recommend

[hard nexus]

savage sweep is good on the mk3 evis not the mk15

for mk15, take shred/bloodthirsty and rampage

[drifting wolf]

is it useless or detrimental

[frosty herald]

0.25s does matter

[hard nexus]

just useless

[stone fern]

its so over

[drifting wolf]

thank god

[fleet zealot]

Shred for piety builds, bloodthirsty on martyr/ij

[hard nexus]

doesnt reach the only real important stagger BP, bulwark shields

[placid fiber]

iirc the charge speed difference between 0% and 100% is 0.3s total on at least 2 staffs

[fleet zealot]

So the extra crit chance isn’t wasted

[zinc talon]

hardly useless

[rocky marsh]

ah ok, so it was build issue, im going to go try again
thanks alot

[zinc talon]

and you're running lethal proximity

which lives and dies on its stun aoe size

why would you not want max stagger for a lethal prox pistol

[hard nexus]

crusher

[rocky marsh]

btw meow, do you play cknife?

[hard nexus]

crusher

[fleet zealot]

Cause there is no bp

Between 60 and 80

[hard nexus]

i used to, but i can still advise on it

[fleet zealot]

Literally nothing

[zinc talon]

I can fire off a round at my feet and have five seconds of total peace and quiet any time I want it

[hard nexus]

but others will know better than i tbf

[hard nexus]

just press special with ur crusher

[placid fiber]

btw the right one is 10% collateral

[acoustic dune]

question

[hard nexus]

and u get the same thing

[fleet zealot]

60 would do the same because of how stagger works

[zinc talon]

oh dangit

[rocky marsh]

im just curious, how do you think it compares to heavy evisc?
Im just wondering if im too spoilt by using good weapons

[zinc talon]

one of my meme weapons

yall mgith be right hold please

[fleet zealot]

And collat doesn’t change suppression

Tho lethal prox does

[hard nexus]

knife is extremely strong, evis mk15 is strong, mk3 evis is ok

[zinc talon]

lol I would pull that one in the moment wouldn't I

[acoustic dune]

how powerful would it be if a weapons in only made for stack effect

[zinc talon]

hahahaha

[fleet zealot]

Are you saying chainsword?

[acoustic dune]

like bleed n burn

and other stuff

[rocky marsh]

no im asking him if he plays combat knife

[hard nexus]

combat knife

[hard nexus]

her

[rocky marsh]

ok that explains xD\

[rocky marsh]

my bad

[hard nexus]

yarp

[sly pebble]

if you were to have a max mobility combat blade, which other stat would you dump?

[placid fiber]

I literally had that problem when I was looking at 2 weapons, but, then my brain connected the dots as to what I was seeing so I could spot that on yours

[acoustic dune]

pen

[hard nexus]

penetration, take uncanny

[zinc talon]

so a 10-15% difference on a 59 vs 80

interdasting

[hard nexus]

interdasting

[zinc talon]

I will compare, yall could possibly perhaps maybe hypothetically have a point here

still

[hard nexus]

"fuck"
he thinks to himself
"they're right"

[zinc talon]

.2 seconds on 2.6

[placid fiber]

It's almost like people here know their shit

[zinc talon]

naw I'm still using my pistol unchanged

I just concede the collateral point

[fleet zealot]

For example you remember flamer and fan the flames

[zinc talon]

two tenths of a second on two and a half still is the dump in my eyes

[fleet zealot]

And how despite those massive numbers

[placid fiber]

I mean 0.2 seconds every time you reload in the run

[fleet zealot]

It doesn’t change much at all

[plucky gate]

What's the discussion here? Collat vs reload on bistol?

[zinc talon]

can't reload sprinting

[hard nexus]

fair, but collateral does nothing

[fleet zealot]

You reload a lot in game

[zinc talon]

have to slow down or the animation breaks

[plucky gate]

Does collat not do anything for bulwark opening?

[fleet zealot]

That’s a good 5-10 seconds over the course of a game

[hard nexus]

if u need builds just lemme know

i have a few evis builds

[fleet zealot]

On bistol? No

[hard nexus]

its among my favorite weapons

[rocky marsh]

based on past experiences i much rather do my own builds even if it would take longer

[fleet zealot]

Bolter is the only one collat isn’t dump stat if you care about opening bolters

[rocky marsh]

like i will ask you for advice on my current build but i don't like copying other people stuff

[placid fiber]

opening bolters?

[hard nexus]

fair, but taking advice from other people regarding builds is important

[rocky marsh]

ya i do :v
i just don't like to copy builds.

[gleaming furnace]

Bulwarks lol

[hard nexus]

for example, disdain is useless

well

not useless

but its only every other attack

[rocky marsh]

wait were you not here when i was spamming josho and exhil in my zealot prime

[hard nexus]

and a lot of people think its worth the point

[zinc talon]

impact numbers differ by about the same as the %s

[hard nexus]

probabl;y was, i just dont remember

[zinc talon]

I don't care a thing about breakpoint hard numbers but I'll see if one jostles his shield away any differentely than the other

[plucky gate]

i swear it did affect bulwarks when i tried it but it was really inconsistent so maybe something was weird about how i did it

[hard nexus]

time 2 try lethal prox crusher

hishock gloriana

peak

[placid fiber]

take stun nades for the ultimate aoe build

[hard nexus]

never

[plucky gate]

also i remember some jank with how ads on bistol makes it stagger bulwarks faster

kinda weird

[placid fiber]

I was joking, so good lol

[hard nexus]

bolter does, bolt pistol does not

[placid fiber]

Yeah, bolter can open bolters

[frosty herald]

puncture doesnt activate on lethal proximity explosion btw

[rocky marsh]

i never see people say that disdian is worth the point
I do see people religiously arguing for second life even without wound build.

i think both josho, cole (and exhil?) swear by it.
But i had a build where it was only possible without taking 2nd life, and it was pretty good. (mommentum stealth. it was funny, pre nerf i could one tap minigun ogryn from the front, i could 1 tap >1 crusher if i hit them from the back)

Thats why i don't like copying other people builds and would rather just work on my own

[sly pebble]

thx to you and knify

[plucky gate]

which one is second life?

[rocky marsh]

until death ( and holy rev)

[plucky gate]

oh

[rocky marsh]

i don't remember the names so i just type 2nd life everytime

sorry heh heh

[plucky gate]

i take those on every build too

a safety net every 2 minutes is pretty huge

[rocky marsh]

Yeah but imo 4 points just for that is quite a trade.

[hushed knoll]

Hello screaming mushroom

[plucky gate]

hello stan

[hushed knoll]

What’s poppin

[plucky gate]

slacking off at work

[hushed knoll]

Wow

[rocky marsh]

@hard nexus tbh i think main issue other than the BT is just that my build sucks for hevisc (admittedly :p)
Its actually for caxe, i was kind of lazy to theorycraft another for hevisc so i used the same one
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d5ccefd-8707-4e8b-8339-027f7129a7c0

[hushed knoll]

You’re fired

[rocky marsh]

what do you do for work json?
I mean its kind of apparent but :p

[fleet zealot]

buwlars

buwularks

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-anong-us-drip-drip-drip-too-hard-sus-gif-20311600

[fleet zealot]

bolter for bulwarks i'm just stupid on my phone eepy

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-jan-gif-22252244

[plucky gate]

actually it's just data entry for ai training rn

[rocky marsh]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d5cd322-6813-4692-9758-0f6c1bcbe480
@plucky gate

[rocky marsh]

wait why do they have a guy on data entry for ai training.
I thought usually they would already have a dataset?

[zinc talon]

that's an 80 collateral vs a 57 (close as I had) collateral against t5 bulwark shields

bolter rifle can sometimes do it in one but more reliably in a hip fire 2 shot

[zinc talon]

angy

[plucky gate]

it's for a language model, and they kind of want some human input. Stuff like more localized writing, finding more recent data, classifying the types of data

[fleet zealot]

ooo

(not my pic)

caffeine free energy drink

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/furious-gif-26366448

[zinc talon]

gross

[fleet zealot]

plotting murder

[zinc talon]

then it's just going to be a horse sized enemy enema of b vitamins and taurine

like a five hour energy but in a tallboi sized can

[south grove]

ya pinged me for this?

[zinc talon]

(5HE has a ton of caffeine too)

fun fact

[barren ember]

So, I hear the new Dragon Age game is really good /sarcasm

[zinc talon]

the reason redbull has like, 1200% your daily dose of vitamin b6 and b12

[mighty root]

https://tenor.com/view/hiii-cat-wave-cat-wave-hi-gif-174708314057938083

[zinc talon]

is because one of the active ingredients, taurine I think

[fleet zealot]

sadly the discourse around it is full of grifters and reactionaries but there is legit reasons it was gonna have issues

[zinc talon]

actively demyelinates the outside coating of your body's nerves

[mighty root]

Wanna see my terrible psyker build

[fleet zealot]

the biggest one being lack of worldstate which????

what the fuck

[zinc talon]

basically chews the casing off the electrical cord

[fleet zealot]

what is up with bioware and cutting the 4th game out of the world state system

[zinc talon]

and b6/12 is what your body makes myelin out of

[fleet zealot]

also companions just being abilities on CD now instead of independent units you can micromanage

[zinc talon]

so they give you a brazilian percent of those b vitamins cuz their drink gives you functional multiple sclerosis

[violet hornet]

Terrifying

[barren ember]

skill up gave it a pretty nasty thrashing 45 mins of "reasons not to buy"

[violet hornet]

Surprised that's not banned

[fleet zealot]

basically

[zinc talon]

well it's not gonna do it to you overnight or anything

[fleet zealot]

skillup is also prefaced it with it being his own opinion and i believe has made comments against some of the hate weirdos and develop wellbeing

[placid fiber]

Is that what you want to do to me, after we chat? lol

[fleet zealot]

no

[zinc talon]

it's like havin too much fat and eventually blocking your arteries

don't worry

[placid fiber]

Aww...

[violet hornet]

Neither will lead in your wine

[placid fiber]

[zinc talon]

usually your heart will give out long before your nerves do

[fleet zealot]

remember the panera lemonades that fucking kill you

[zinc talon]

so practically non-issue

[violet hornet]

Yeah that's fair

[fleet zealot]

i need your opinions

on the panera lemonade scandal

[violet hornet]

Panera in general really

[zinc talon]

the 4 lokos?

[mighty root]

They made fun of my build in psyker chat

[fleet zealot]

no

[zinc talon]

they banned those here in texas I think

oh

[placid fiber]

I mean they used to drink radium, in the past... so stuff that kills you doesn't surprise me

[zinc talon]

oh it was a drink you got at panaera pantera

[fleet zealot]

the biggest issue, i worked here when they released

[violet hornet]

Holy shit lol

[fleet zealot]

is that they had these in the lobby next to the soda machine

so people were refilling

[rocky marsh]

my friend used some local llm to classify the types of data
anyway, i wish you luck boss

[zinc talon]

good god lol

[rocky marsh]

wait bandit are you the one that spams the ferret(?) pictures

[fleet zealot]

and it was part of our free drink subscription club

[fleet zealot]

yse

[zinc talon]

that'll give you the cold hands and spicy armpits

[fleet zealot]

yes

people died

cause they drank too much

[rocky marsh]

did you chjange your name or profile picture?
hmmm

[zinc talon]

I believe it

[placid fiber]

Oh, I take that much caffeine in 1 sitting nowadays...

[rocky marsh]

sorry it been 4 months

[violet hornet]

I would have had a heart attack right there in the lobby

[ivory marlin]

I drink 6 panera lemonades a day is that healthy?

[fleet zealot]

also imo, panera didn't label them clearly enough and put more warnings

[fleet zealot]

well the ones you get now aren't caffienated

they discontinued them

[zinc talon]

what was the intent there, lowkey baffling

[placid fiber]

but jesus that is a lot of caffeine for 1 drink

[fleet zealot]

also imo, a large shouldn't be 390mg

[zinc talon]

let's make a new drink and hype it a ton

and put six cups of coffee in every glass

[ivory marlin]

Darn

[fleet zealot]

it should be like, a 1/2 of that at minimum, if not even 1/4th

[zinc talon]

and not hype that too

[rocky marsh]

oh ya meow, thanks alot for the hints
duelist is very much needed for heavy evisc xd

[fleet zealot]

ok i do want more coffee alternatives

because i fucking hate coffee

[placid fiber]

I mean... they make drinks with 300mg of caffeine in them that are like... 16 oz cans...

[fleet zealot]

but i need caffeine or my chronic fatigue will have me fall asleep during the day

[ivory marlin]

I think 600 grams of caffeine should be put into any and all liquids

[fleet zealot]

yes but you can't refill a can for free

[violet hornet]

I like coffee but I'm caffeine sensitive, if only decaf didn't taste like burnt anus

[zinc talon]

thinning of bones

[placid fiber]

Wait you could refill it for free?!

[zinc talon]

and fractures

[fleet zealot]

and you don't get free cans for doing a cheap subscription

[ivory marlin]

So

[nimble fiber]

bread

[zinc talon]

that's a hell of a way to say it pulls the calcium out of your fucking bones

[ivory marlin]

What im hearing is

[fleet zealot]

yea for the first half of the time they had them released

they were out in the lobby

[placid fiber]

What the fuck?!

[fleet zealot]

next to the soda machine

[ivory marlin]

Drink caffeinated milk so my bones stay normal

[fleet zealot]

there was a gal who was drinking 3-4 a sitting

cause they are good lemonades

[placid fiber]

Soda only has like maybe 60mg of caffeine in it...

[fleet zealot]

great flavors

[ivory marlin]

I tried a caffeinated chocolate milk

[zinc talon]

I am such a tart drink simp

[placid fiber]

jesus, 390 with free refills...

[ivory marlin]

It made me sick

[zinc talon]

I had to quit simply limeade cuz of the sugar

[violet hornet]

Eeeew

[zinc talon]

I can tank an entire bottle of that in a sitting if I'm allowede

[ivory marlin]

Yeah it was gross

[fleet zealot]

yea and that was the assumption some people made cause of how unclear the caffeine count was (it was some tiny transparent text) and assume it would be like a soda of caffeine

not 390mg

[placid fiber]

yeah the caffeine makes the stuff mid

[ivory marlin]

I LOVE LEMONADE

[fleet zealot]

[zinc talon]

well and also

[nimble fiber]

[violet hornet]

Damn that's a shame, limeaid is fantastic

[zinc talon]

when was the last time your lemonade had caffeine in it

I daresay never

it prolly didn't click cuz why the hell would it

[violet hornet]

I prefer my anuses unburned

[ivory marlin]

If they caffinate lemonade im killing everyone

[nimble fiber]

ah gotcha

[ivory marlin]

Drink tea

[zinc talon]

yeah I'm team leaf water

[fleet zealot]

they fixed the signs and got new ones, and they put the machine behind the counter so an employee would fill it for you and you couldn't get refills

[zinc talon]

fuck team bean juice

[fleet zealot]

but

[ivory marlin]

I love tea

[fleet zealot]

the image was ruined

because it legit had a death count

tbh

[ivory marlin]

Tea tastes way better than coffee

[fleet zealot]

i'd die for strawberry lemon mint

[zinc talon]

that is vicariously hilarious

[fleet zealot]

it was so good

[zinc talon]

mint is a hard sell for me but I can see it

one of the gas station bottled tea cos make a mint honey sweetened flavor

[fleet zealot]

it blended perfectly while chilled, not so much taste as in mouthfeel

[hard nexus]

until death and holy rev are really good, they path into benediction which is the best aura, and they save you from one mistake

[fleet zealot]

so the strawberry and lemon really came through

[zinc talon]

(honey does not raise your blood sugar and as such can be used by people with those concerns)

[sullen forge]

Where you can visibly see the chemicals in a drink has to be one of the funniest things

[zinc talon]

or rather

[fleet zealot]

mango was kinda one note, just citrus and mango, but it was still pretty good, I don't remember the cranberry

[zinc talon]

it raises blood sugar but takes more than it raises to digest it? or hell now I gotta look it up

[fleet zealot]

honey is more complex so it raises your blood sugar slower

[hard nexus]

drop shield of contempt and the emperors bullet for either twbs or duelist and something else

[zinc talon]

that's the ticket

[fleet zealot]

so spikes less, doesn't decay as fast

[zinc talon]

its glycemic index reads like a snake oil salesman pitch

[hard nexus]

overall, should be taking tknives

but

meh

also

i only ever get outdamaged by gunluggers

gunluggers and meta psykers

i fucking

HATE

GUNLUGGER

grgrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[drifting wolf]

y

[hard nexus]

its overpowered

extremely so

its smite psyker with ammo

just hold M1 the entire game

complain why you dont have ammo

deal 600k damage

[drifting wolf]

damn i thought it was just because of the ammo obliterating part and being greedy with ammo pickups

[hard nexus]

take 3k damage

[zinc talon]

ah cuz it's fructose

[hard nexus]

i deadass

watched this fucking guy

[zinc talon]

fun fact

[hard nexus]

die to one rager and 2 poxwalkers

and he had a shield

[zinc talon]

glucose actually tastes fucking terrible

[hard nexus]

HOW?!?!?!??!

[nimble fiber]

dehydrated

[zinc talon]

your body won't let you like, sip/chew then swallow any

[drifting wolf]

i would imagine the thing with glu in the name would not taste very good because glue is not very tasty

[zinc talon]

cuz if it got into your blood it could kill you

[hard nexus]

HE TOOK

[sullen forge]

I respect gunluggers who actually use melee more

[hard nexus]

1500 DAMAGE

FROM HORDE

[zinc talon]

so you reject it like you reject spoiled fish

[ivory marlin]

Yall know how yall say i shouldnt buy mtg packs cuz i just lose money

Wrong

[sullen forge]

Try 4k

[ivory marlin]

I didnt even buy the pack

[zinc talon]

is the lotus card still the meme tier expernsive one

[sullen forge]

Had a shield Ogryn take 4k

[ivory marlin]

Yeah

[rocky marsh]

quick question right, when does the melee interrupt apply again?
context of twbs

[zinc talon]

yknow sidebar

one of the highest rated games on all of steam right now

is trading card store simulator

[ivory marlin]

I could have won one but i basically had to go flawless over multiple games

I lost my second game

[drifting wolf]

i liked playing achlys glugger on my ogryn but i noticed i usually got too excited about shooting everything that moves, so yeah smyker with a gun seems like a good comparison

[ivory marlin]

Took photos of my slow death

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iYGrw6slxMnMFcGeS?invite=cr-MSxGcFgsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[rocky marsh]

i thoguht it was like mid attack, then under any condition if the enemy attacks you your attack will get interrupted

[rocky marsh]

or must you be out of stam / shields?

[ivory marlin]

(This was over the span of 3 turns)

[sullen forge]

It gets especially bad when there’s a Surv Veteran

[hard nexus]

if you get hit at all, your melee attack will be interuppted, you'll stop sprinting, you'll be knocked out of minigames

[zinc talon]

not if I play it on my phone

[hard nexus]

not having TWBS can lead into taking a ton of damage just from one hit

[rocky marsh]

i know what you said is true for a fact, and i experienced it myself before.
but atm im in psk with heavy evisc, invuln turned off, no twbs and the attack isn't getting interrupted

[drifting wolf]

fortunately didn't really come across many from the few games i played with it, so i had to face the consequences of my magdumping shenanigans

[sullen forge]

But it’s a crutch!!!

[zinc talon]

sure, if you're expecting and banking on the swing keeping your fighting pace up

[hard nexus]

for example, hit by a poxwalker stunning you into a gunner wall

[hard nexus]

kills u

[zinc talon]

you get jostled all out of your rythm

[sullen forge]

Yeah okay kid… you’re just bad…. Stay out of my Aurics…..

[rocky marsh]

oh nevermind
it only interrupts attack windup, not the attack itself

[frosty herald]

i try to heavy with psyker in a horde a single time

[hard nexus]

maybe 100% shield you dont get interupted, but gunners are the most noticable reason for it

yeah

[frosty herald]

dies

[hard nexus]

real !!

melee psyker seems so fun

[zinc talon]

yeah a swing I think always...swungs

[drifting wolf]

i did like that build in the ogrynomicon that was a tankgryn with shield, more than glugger cause no ammo issues lol

[hard nexus]

if gunner stun was removed

thats all i want

THATS IT

!!

well

and my mk3 evis changes

[sullen forge]

Meow it’s never happening

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iYGApUFft0-nXCsfF?invite=cr-MSx5YnIsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[zinc talon]

I want gunners to push you back from their perspective

[frosty herald]

melee psyker sems fun until you realize psyker dies from a single melee stun

[sullen forge]

You know it’s never happening

[zinc talon]

not glue you to the fucking floor

like you're on the surface of inserthugeplanethere

[frosty herald]

i genuinely want tank psyker to be a thing

[hard nexus]

yeah

[frosty herald]

and its needs to be with biomancer smite

[fleet zealot]

pop goes the bomber

[hard nexus]

unchained psykker pleaseeee

[fleet zealot]

tanker even

you could say

[frosty herald]

the talent tree itself not smite itself

[zinc talon]

deflector force sword, 30% peril reduction plus other reductions, blocking raises peril before stamina

[hard nexus]

no i want unchained psyker that generates peril when u take damage

[zinc talon]

the psyker can I think still soak the higheset absolute damage amount of any class

[frosty herald]

biomancer canonically are actual powerhouses that are nigh unkillable depending on psychic rating

[hard nexus]

full on j9ust

[sullen forge]

They rework shield into like a pseudo void shield cause fuck you psyker needs more op shit

[mystic ether]

So are these 59%-61% rolls like real for real or?

[hard nexus]

unchained sienna from vt2

[frosty herald]

gale shush

[zinc talon]

heh I've forgotten

[frosty herald]

psyker personal shield would be cool as hell

[zinc talon]

I did melee battle wizard

can't remember why or how

[rocky marsh]

@hard nexus
i settled on https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d5cdc07-b02a-4899-9ac5-e7bb9715fb85

[frosty herald]

sienna genuinely works as a melee sorceress

[zinc talon]

oh right, I did it cuz I never played sienna

too busy breaking iron

[frosty herald]

the scythe flail and all

[zinc talon]

I'm prolly getting the class name wrong

[mystic ether]

Fire knife and sword are fun/

[hard nexus]

learn throwing knives !!

[zinc talon]

the first class you started as, I think

how was necromancer

[hard nexus]

throwing knives give u second wind

[zinc talon]

almost tempted me to reinstall

[rocky marsh]

but i want to play wound :p

[hard nexus]

play wound with throwing knives

[stone fern]

is that what i fucking think it is

did you really drop a portal?

[hard nexus]

u dont need the healing n such

[frosty herald]

people enjoyed it

[mighty root]

I with smite knocked everything over like shout and could only do 3 or 2 short burst

[surreal shore]

GUYS

whats the build

on knife?

[ivory marlin]

I got eldrazied

[frosty herald]

you can even specialize skeletons into tank or pure dps

[hard nexus]

also that build has poor toughness gen

[rocky marsh]

usually my wound build will be top heavy, taking second wind + another path
but i can't take SOC and second wind