idk how i can explain better
#zealot-class
spare talon
paper harness
Hs 9 is the only good hs
cut your wrists š
copper hawk
Bro ??
jagged cradle
Yo?
copper hawk
Wtff
obsidian prairie
Hs 9 is the only good hs
Explode
copper hawk
Yo?
obsidian prairie
Itās so clunky
south grove
wdym
obsidian prairie
Special attack h1
That also feels like shit
copper hawk
I dodge in the direction of my attack like im dancing
spare talon
how is that not self explanatory
south grove
I feel lobotomised rn
jagged cradle
Hs 9 is the only good hs
I prefer the 6
south grove
how is that not self explanatory
please confirm cole
copper hawk
Dat shrimple
jagged cradle
Horde clear clunky
Clunky how to you?
copper hawk
Strikedown heavies
If i wanted to do a heavy light combo horde clear id just play a dclaw
south grove
@paper harness
copper hawk
A REAL atoman felinid uses a hs9 and decapitates their foes
south grove
did I do this right
south grove
A REAL atoman felinid uses a hs9 and decapitates their foes
and real felinid would be third class citizen
jagged cradle
A REAL atoman felinid uses a hs9 and decapitates their foes
I use the hs9 on my vet I promise!
copper hawk
I have lore for my char cuz i love 2 write and i love dnd
gleaming furnace
Why does chained death blow feel so garbage ?
copper hawk
I will not lore dump
south grove
Why they'd be an inquisitor
get back to whatever filthy underhive you crawled out of
copper hawk
Because it is garbage
south grove
felinid
jagged cradle
I will not lore dump
Iād listen
copper hawk
Just use normal deathblow
gleaming furnace
Sadge
copper hawk
It's just brutal meowmentum
gleaming furnace
I know that
copper hawk
Headshot kill ignores hitmass
copper hawk
Iād listen
Nop
gleaming furnace
It just seems they should have better synergy
fleet zealot
south grove
How can we be oomfies again I want to redeem myself
cica never forgives, never forgets
it's too late
violet hornet
<@1273699265243381802>
It's not exactly easy to line up multiple headshots with mk 7 so rampage is an option but deathblow works well too
jagged cradle
I didnāt even do anything bad tho???
violet hornet
What you have is exactly what I use
south grove
It's not exactly easy to line up multiple headshots with mk 7 so rampage is an o...
dorn gave me the combo but idk if you dump defences on the mk 7 too
jagged cradle
We had so much in common too š
south grove
that's my main concern
violet hornet
dorn gave me the combo but idk if you dump defences on the mk 7 too
I do personally dump defense
But I also take disdain over a toughness talent lol
obtuse solstice
Is it worth to parry hordes or is it better to just clear normally
hard nexus
Is it worth to parry hordes or is it better to just clear normally
dclaw 7, just heavy light
parry is for single target
or if u wanna feel really cool
visual compass
Does anyone have the parry stat table before they removed it?
obtuse solstice
dclaw 7, just heavy light
I am a IV enjoyer
hard nexus
I am a IV enjoyer
unfortunately the 7 is flat out better
obtuse solstice
nuh uh
hard nexus
the moveset on it is better
overhead heavy into overhead light
and parry into overhead light
r jsut better
jagged cradle
I never saw the appeal of the dclaw
obtuse solstice
parry
jagged cradle
Well yeah no duh
south grove
I never saw the appeal of the dclaw
huge giant knife???
jagged cradle
and itās not overpowered
Not op you say?!
jagged cradle
kk
jagged cradle
This is just my bolter build already besides a few minor things alright sounds good I need a break from homework anyway
pale spindle
God save me
"um scourge is applicable" š¤ āš»
hard nexus
thatās what the crit chance is for
fleet zealot
@unique elbow
unique elbow
<@132195428132192256>
based
undone flame
I completed some of the penitences from the last build
a lot of the other ones require shroud feild but for the moment i am going to do the fury one and keep chipping away at the incendiary nade one
hard nexus
I completed some of the penitences from the last build
a lot of the other ones r...
swap good balance for thy wrath be swift
undone flame
k
hard nexus
I guess i have to look at if any weapons can help or suffer
you could run a momentum evis
or thunder hammer
but ur damage output would suck
and pathing into second wind would cost a lot
the immolation grenade pathing is just absolutely terrible
gleaming furnace
You could free up a ton of point ditching all that middle tree junk
undone flame
these are the ones i have remaining
hard nexus
You could free up a ton of point ditching all that middle tree junk
theyāre going for beacon of purity
the
penance
gleaming furnace
Oh ew obvi
undone flame
i actually just got it last game
hard nexus
i actually just got it last game
oh ok
then switch to benediction
drop the middle tree
path into second wind
untold lily
I think beacon of purity gets far too much hate tbh
hard nexus
I think beacon of purity gets far too much hate tbh
healing corruption rarely is ever useful though
gleaming furnace
Itās not bad but the stuff before it is lackluster compared to the other sides
hard nexus
also true
gleaming furnace
And zealot tree pathing is pretty annoying since you kinda have to go all the way across for some great stuff
undone flame
have two more points
hard nexus
the pathing into immo grenades, and beacon of purity are really bad
hard nexus
have two more points
what weapon r you using for this
undone flame
what weapon r you using for this
untold lily
I main team support veteran, so the +15% toughness damage resistance aura is what I want to see the Zealot do, but the heart says white hair dye, sister haircut, eviscerator, bolter, immolation grenade, beacon of purity, relic of toughness, left keystone
hard nexus
have two more points
hard nexus
yah thatāll work, for immo grenades at least
itās a pretty bad build im ngl
but thatās what ur forced into doing with immo
undone flame
it is what it is
when i am done with getting all the achivments i can do whatever i want
8 years of playing destiny have rotted my brain into stacking objectives like this
hard nexus
8 years of playing destiny have rotted my brain into stacking objectives like th...
@spare talon
ur mood kindred
gleaming furnace
Bro itās ok
fleet zealot
healing corruption rarely is ever useful though
it's basically only good for grim runs in my experience lol
gleaming furnace
The first step is admitting you have a problem
untold lily
support
I save the weak from boss encounters with krak grenades, I fill their toughness bars with blue stuff until they become gold, I tag stuff to take more damage, and I buff their dps. I would name that support. The fact that I can shoot specials/elites and wipe out hordes and armor with a funny axe is a plus
hard nexus
it's basically only good for grim runs in my experience lol
grim runs and maybe pox gas modifiers
gleaming furnace
Iāve been clean from destiny for almost 3 years thanks to my faith in the emperor
fleet zealot
medstims
hard nexus
pox gas gives to many
med stims
undone flame
I haven't played destiny since the great awakening (beyond light being unfettered ass)
hard nexus
yerp
south grove
<@1273699265243381802>
@paper harness please reply š
hard nexus
<@1273699265243381802> please reply š
ur a dorn grub
confirmed
begging for dorn to reply
south grove
ur a dorn grub
I don't mind that reputation if I can get good gear
fleet zealot
and hereās the licker
south grove
I'm here to hopefully get better
hard nexus
I don't mind that reputation if I can get good gear
rampage ht is okay
misty ravine
And zealot tree pathing is pretty annoying since you kinda have to go all the wa...
Ideally it should be a difficult decision whether to go straight down one side to have more points for the capstone associated talents, or branch out more to poach abilities from other themes. Zealot just has a lot of shit talents that funnel you down the Standard Backwards-S
hard nexus
deathblow is better
south grove
rampage ht is okay
dump stat is what I'm worried about mainly
paper harness
not on 7
hard nexus
dump stat is what I'm worried about mainly
defenses is fine
paper harness
<@1273699265243381802>
flak elite defence dump
grizzled aspen
yes on 7!!!!
No, deathblow is only BIS on mk9.
grizzled aspen
Go back to evisc, noob.
south grove
flak elite defence dump
tyyyyy
hard nexus
Go back to evisc, noob.
grizzled aspen
Yeah that's me.
south grove
also seems like maniac is not a concern on melee?
fleet zealot
me giving up my ability to quadra kill elites cause it's too hard on the different mark
grizzled aspen
How did you get that?
hard nexus
https://tenor.com/view/ferret-lick-mlem-cute-funny-gif-25264237
this guy has no brain cells
bandit gets me
grizzled aspen
also seems like maniac is not a concern on melee?
No, the only thing you even slightly worry about, maniac wise, is dreg ragers, and you kill them in 2 shots, with or without maniac damage, anyway.
fleet zealot
this guy has no brain cells
hard nexus
also seems like maniac is not a concern on melee?
only affects dreg rager BPs, which, while important, you can reach with chastise (or iām pretty sure with buffs up)
fleet zealot
it's so hard to cancel into h1
grizzled aspen
me giving up my ability to quadra kill elites cause it's too hard on the differe...
More like I'm going to kill everything super fast anyway, so why not take a better blessing for more damage?
sullen forge
Oh wow, 15% weakspot!
Okay what are we arguing now
hard nexus
Oh wow, 15% weakspot!
oh wow, killing 4 ragers in one swing!
sullen forge
BM?
south grove
Okay what are we arguing now
rampage vs deathblow
hard nexus
Okay what are we arguing now
deathblow on the mk7 heavy sword
sullen forge
Agile?
south grove
v2
fleet zealot
Oh wow, 15% weakspot!
and 4 targets
south grove
on heavy sword
fleet zealot
of FT
grizzled aspen
You won't be killing 4 ragers in one swing with non mk9 hswords.
sullen forge
Deathblow is even more fucking cleave
paper harness
it requires dragging it
hard nexus
it requires dragging it
itās so easy to do
grizzled aspen
You have to flick the SHIT out of your camera.
sullen forge
You have to flick the SHIT out of your camera.
I do that :)))
hard nexus
You have to flick the SHIT out of your camera.
just move ur camera to the left
itās
not hard
fleet zealot
Lmao didn't know BM was just 15% weakspot
misty ravine
Enemies never stack up on the same spot
hard nexus
fleet zealot
next i'm going to advertise martyrdom as just missing wounds
hard nexus
LOL
grizzled aspen
Me when I'm in a "taking things out of context in a coherent argument" challenge and my opponent is Bandit:
jagged cradle
just move ur camera to the left
I suppose I see the merit in the dclaw I guess Iāll use it more often
hard nexus
I suppose I see the merit in the dclaw I guess Iāll use it more often
pawesome
fleet zealot
Me when I'm in a "taking things out of context in a coherent argument" challenge...
YOU Literally made the claim
like why tf
hard nexus
i love dclaw
grizzled aspen
Because it's much harder to use?
hard nexus
itās really not
jagged cradle
i love dclaw
More than evis?
fleet zealot
it's really not and I say this as a 9 lover
grizzled aspen
You have to flick the fuck out of your camera to get value on the mk6 and mk7 hswords.
fleet zealot
i love the 9
hard nexus
More than evis?
idk
fleet zealot
flicking isn't new
hard nexus
idk what my favorite weapon is rn
fleet zealot
nearly every weapon can flick for more effectiveness
grizzled aspen
It's far more simple and intuitive just to run rampage instead for those models.
untold lily
More than evis?
Eviscerator is so beautiful tho
grizzled aspen
Especially considering how hectic higher difficulty missions are.
fleet zealot
nah, the no fall off is always going to go past rampage
grizzled aspen
Less focus on flicking your camera is more focus on specialists coming to delete your team.
hard nexus
Less focus on flicking your camera is more focus on specialists coming to delete...
look at special, press mouse 4 (my throwing knife button)
fleet zealot
specialists are sound ques anyways get a semi decent audio setup
hard nexus
easy as that
fleet zealot
sorry i'm not one of the noobs
grizzled aspen
Interesting...
fleet zealot
that has bad audio for some reason
hard nexus
you both are noobs
south grove
specialists are sound ques anyways get a semi decent audio setup
tarkov trauma
jagged cradle
The real question is should I dclaw my psyker
fleet zealot
i had like, one patch until hotfix where my sound was fucked
hard nexus
The real question is should I dclaw my psyker
no
grizzled aspen
@paper harness do me a favor and explain why relying solely on sound is a terrible idea for specialists.
untold lily
Surround sound headset is definitely a pre
jagged cradle
Booo
grizzled aspen
And also why fatshark can't replicate the issues we have.
fleet zealot
SUMMON THE DORN
hard nexus
<@1273699265243381802> do me a favor and explain why relying solely on sound is ...
do me a favor and explain it yourself
paper harness
audio tracks over lap
south grove
me when the guy with a 3k dollar headset domes my head from 3km away bc his headset can hear me that far away
paper harness
so specialists are ignored because crushers etc
fleet zealot
i got the cat ear headset
jade sonnet
Ministorium Guardian shouldn't be a green title šµāš«
fleet zealot
and honestly, it's not as good as my favorite of all time
paper harness
only really happens in some conditions
fleet zealot
but it's amazing
south grove
Ministorium Guardian shouldn't be a green title šµāš«
rarity doesn't matter lol
just put it on
grizzled aspen
Where did the dog come from?
fleet zealot
specialists make so much noise and i'm autistic for hearing even the slightest specialist noise
grizzled aspen
Wait that's the wrong clip
grizzled aspen
Medal is being dumb
untold lily
I am sad that they no longer produce the nice razer kraken variant I use
south grove
specialists make so much noise and i'm autistic for hearing even the slightest s...
I'm half deaf
south grove
and I can't hear shit
fleet zealot
I'm half deaf
i'm legally blind
paper harness
I am old does that count
fleet zealot
like idk about my brain, but i can pick out specialist sounds that aren't the spawning or in your face warning lines
grizzled aspen
Ok so I clipped a magistrati oubliette mission and watched a dog spawn out of a fucking railing and medal decided I didn't, apparently.
south grove
I am old does that count
you're not that old yet
untold lily
And my right hand is blehād, so Iām the only Vet who canāt aim right. Somehow still pop more specials with one hand than my team with two
paper harness
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
south grove
25 is the age for young lads to be prancing in the fields and picking flowers
fleet zealot
footsteps, breathing, their moving lines
fleet zealot
I am old does that count
booemr
paper harness
did not alt tab in time to say "medkit where i died"
fleet zealot
And my right hand is blehād, so Iām the only Vet who canāt aim right. Somehow st...
effort is the biggest decider
there is no reason i should do so well on vet other than, I am aware of my weaknesses but want to perform my best
enemies can literally "vanish" into the background for me
especially dregs on hourglass and scabs in any dark/dark metal place
hard orbit
what is the dump stat for a duelingsword for zealot??
paper harness
cleave on ds4
copper hawk
Always meowbility of defences
Dorn hipster arc
Dump stat is achktually collat on boltie bruh.. takes drag off banana taffy freeze geekbar
paper harness
sorry you do not understand it cutie
paper harness
am bald
hard nexus
south grove
Dump stat is achktually collat on boltie bruh.. *takes drag off banana taffy fre...
was I not supposed to dump collat
:/
I made a whole new boltgun for that
paper harness
it is collat
gleaming furnace
Dump stat is achktually collat on boltie bruh.. *takes drag off banana taffy fre...
Iāve never been so called out
hard nexus
I made a whole new boltgun for that
dumping collat just means opening bulwarks is a bit harder, and stagger will be a bit weaker
fleet zealot
achtually collat 80 is one less bolt for bulwarks
hard nexus
not really a big deal though
fleet zealot
š¤
jagged cradle
Is there really that big of a difference
hard nexus
Is there really that big of a difference
combat and tac axes r very different
copper hawk
Takes a hit off the boof
hard orbit
should i upgrade this or not?
hard nexus
should i upgrade this or not?
no
paper harness
no
obsidian prairie
No
copper hawk
No
hard nexus
LMFAO
jagged cradle
combat and tac axes r very different
Would you mind explaining the differences
hard nexus
should i upgrade this or not?
you want to dump mobility
visual compass
Don't dump penetration š
paper harness
do on knife hehehe
copper hawk
Dorn be like
visual compass
do on knife hehehe
Is this bait
paper harness
uncanny
hard nexus
Would you mind explaining the differences
i summon you, grub @copper hawk
copper hawk
Man i hate tanner. Who dumpz dameowge ? ANYGLOOP dump 4 boltie is collat btw
hard nexus
Is this bait
uncanny makes up for low pen
copper hawk
jagged cradle
Cica doesnāt like me rn
hard nexus
Cica doesnāt like me rn
why
hard nexus
HE'S NOT TAKIN MY BAIT !!
paper harness
in game
south grove
dumping collat just means opening bulwarks is a bit harder, and stagger will be ...
bulwarks when I pull out a plasma gun
hard nexus
bulwarks when I pull out a plasma gun
plasma guns when i pull out yellow barrel
paper harness
how toxic and elitist to barrel people playing things you do not like xd
visual compass
uncanny makes up for low pen
So, doesn't penetration increase the damage you do to certain defense types? So even if you're getting the extra damage from Uncanny with the rending, wouldn't you get more damage from Uncanny with higher Penetration? Since it's a modifier to the attacks against those certain armor types.
hard nexus
how toxic and elitist to barrel people playing things you do not like xd
hey you do that
not me
paper harness
Is this bait
difference in armour damage betweek 80 pen and 60 with uncanny is 1%
hard nexus
Just joined an auric mael and got kicked for no reason?
they smelt u
visual compass
difference in armour damage betweek 80 pen and 60 with uncanny is 1%
Fair enough
visual compass
difference in armour damage betweek 80 pen and 60 with uncanny is 1%
No wonder ya'll were malding at me dumping 1st target
Lmao
zinc talon
vague depot
What blessings and perks for laspistol
copper hawk
Would you mind explaining the differences
Idk
I like the atrox ii
It's the most like the rashad
paper harness
dumdum raking/ dumdum ghost flak maniac flak unyeilding
vague depot
Alright thanks
hard nexus
So, doesn't penetration increase the damage you do to certain defense types? So ...
rending affects that damage modifier, (which is called an ADM, armor damage modifer). 1% rending increases the ADM against all armor except infested and unarmored by 1, until it reaches 100%, where rending is converted into damage at 4-1 ratio, 4% rending into 1% rending
copper hawk
Heavies stagger ragers
hard orbit
what about this?
copper hawk
Yes
vague depot
what about this?
Thatās good
paper harness
Meh
hard nexus
what about this?
perfect
hard orbit
alright cool š
copper hawk
PUNCH PUNCH FOR EVAH !!
jagged cradle
Heavies stagger ragers
Thanks I guess, still love you
obsidian prairie
Tac axes are faster
copper hawk
Oomf privilegez still revoked
paper harness
Thanks I guess, still love you
I hate you
obsidian prairie
Have better dodges
south grove
difference in armour damage betweek 80 pen and 60 with uncanny is 1%
should I... make a new knife?
jagged cradle
Oomf privilegez still revoked
Awww
obsidian prairie
and really strong push attacks
paper harness
should I... make a new knife?
can you keep it stacked 95% of the time
misty ravine
Come to think of it, I wonder if there are actual plans for attributes to go above 80%, if those plans will be scrapped and 80% will quietly be relabeled 100%, or if 80% will be the actual maximum forever
copper hawk
south grove
can you keep it stacked 95% of the time
lemme find out
visual compass
šæ
paper harness
Come to think of it, I wonder if there are actual plans for attributes to go abo...
scrapped
spare talon
ur mood kindred
obsidian prairie
https://tenor.com/view/scrumdiddlyumptious-hulkenberg-metaphor-refantazio-atlus-...
Watched a friend beat an optional superboss 13 levels above him by agilitymaxxing
south grove
I love you even more
jagged cradle
https://tenor.com/view/faith-cross-sign-game-horror-unholy-gif-26976630
What is it
spare talon
Watched a friend beat an optional superboss 13 levels above him by agilitymaxxin...
i think it will be really awesome and epic if i max out every archetype on every character
south grove
What is it
dorn grub
fleet zealot
Then what's THIS!
older than the game itself prob
obsidian prairie
The magla economy is crumbling
visual compass
older than the game itself prob
Yeah, this was back from the beta š©
All the weapons that got cut
obsidian prairie
If you get 80% you get a kickass accessory (an extra turn or smth)
visual compass
Sadge
south grove
Then what's THIS!
it's in the unlocked and loaded update image as a static object
its purpose has been served
visual compass
it's in the unlocked and loaded update image as a static object
š
paper harness
it's in the unlocked and loaded update image as a static object
boot game bitchtin
visual compass
A placeholder forevermore
paper harness
we have a spot
spare talon
If you get 80% you get a kickass accessory (an extra turn or smth)
WHAT
jagged cradle
Damn you brunt, might be sign to not use them
visual compass
its purpose has been served
š
It's honestly probably just the Scab Captain/Rinda Karnak Power Sword model
I doubt we'll ever get a 2 handed Power Sword, but one can dream.
south grove
It's honestly probably just the Scab Captain/Rinda Karnak Power Sword model
it's not
either scrapped or like the dbarrel gonna stay in the file forever until it drops
visual compass
That could be the case true
jagged cradle
Damn you brunt, might be sign to not use them
Should I just take what I can get or just go for perfect
south grove
Should I just take what I can get or just go for perfect
you can still buy it and gamble at hadron
the empower value can change at hadron
also taxe is one of my favourite weapons
jagged cradle
I kinda like caxe abit more tbh
south grove
I kinda like caxe abit more tbh
you do not understand how nuts crit weakspot ADMS is
jagged cradle
you do not understand how nuts crit weakspot ADMS is
Youāre so right but Iām looking for an axe for my vet horde clear preferably
placid fiber
I kinda like caxe abit more tbh
Taxe is for when you are good at the game and want to have fun with a different weapon, imo
People seem to have a ton of fun using it
jagged cradle
Taxe is for when you are good at the game and want to have fun with a different ...
I see problem is Iāve just never used the axes before like at all
placid fiber
taxes play more like the knife than they do the caxe or chain axe
grizzled aspen
Youāre so right but Iām looking for an axe for my vet horde clear preferably
Weapon spec taxe is insanely fast.
You are literally a human blender.
dense field
taxes have a surprisingly high stagger
hard orbit
best perks and blessings for a dueling sword??
grizzled aspen
Special attack is also funny because if you tap a mutant in his little noggin he stops dead in his tracks.
vague depot
best perks and blessings for a dueling sword??
Thrust precog flak unyielding
hard orbit
ok thanks
violet hornet
best perks and blessings for a dueling sword??
There's a few viable setups for DS, I use rampage + precog with carapace and unyielding
gleaming furnace
Uncanny riposte is hawt
grizzled aspen
Rampage on ds is definitely a choice.
gleaming furnace
One of the choices of all time
paper harness
rampage on 5
violet hornet
Eh I gave it a try after dorn recommend it
gleaming furnace
Or just use agile cus theyāll nerf it for being funny
grizzled aspen
Obese fish won't nerf ds.
violet hornet
I also don't really like thrust tho, I only run it on thammer
I'd rather stab faster
Rampage kinda nice for helping clear hordes out
I don't really get the appeal of uncanny if I'm two shotting carapace anyways
fleet zealot
Uncanny is more for weaker melee buiilds aka not zealot
paper harness
fleet zealot
Or just for consistency on zealot
violet hornet
Uncanny is more for weaker melee buiilds aka not zealot
Ahh okay
hard orbit
There's a few viable setups for DS, I use rampage + precog with carapace and uny...
what about riposte and shred?
fleet zealot
what about riposte and shred?
Why no precog with riposte
south grove
gleaming furnace
Crit chance tops out at 100% bro
spare talon
incredible
fleet zealot
No need to double dip crit chance when crit cdr is 4 seconds now
spare talon
and precog is right there
fleet zealot
Hell there just isnāt a need one crit chance blessing with scourhe and blazing piety
jade sonnet
Is tanner bad or something
violet hornet
what about riposte and shred?
Might work if you're looking for 100% crit rate consistently but I'd probably take precog riposte over it personally
vague depot
Holy shit wtf is that swing speed
spare talon
Is tanner bad or something
no hes really good
he just has very terrible opinions on a lot of things and is an asshole to anyone who disagrees with him on them
fleet zealot
Is tanner bad or something
Tanner isnāt bad he just has a massive ego problem and is an asshole, he will also have bad/terrible takes and die on those hills
jade sonnet
Oh I see
vague depot
Not one step back
spare talon
Holy shit wtf is that swing speed
pretty sure thats latency
jade sonnet
I used to be a tanner when I was younger
vague depot
pretty sure thats latency
Ah
spare talon
visual compass
Taxe is for when you are good at the game and want to have fun with a different ...
I really like Taxe
south grove
what should I run w/ uhhh
uhhh
knife
I need to see if I can maintain uncanny stacks
vague depot
How do you deal with hordes with knife
south grove
cole's running flamer rn
fleet zealot
Literally impossble to not maintain
vague depot
Is it just āuse another weaponā
fleet zealot
They never drop stacks
spare talon
How do you deal with hordes with knife
south grove
I do not want to be a copycat
vague depot
Alright LMAO
fleet zealot
How do you deal with hordes with knife
Flamer or weave PAs and kite it out
vague depot
Can you slide me your knife build and talents
spare talon
also smaller groups are perfectly fine to kill
i use riposte/precog and basically always 1 shot whatever i hit with a crit
vague depot
Flamer or weave PAs and kite it out
Push attacks look like a overhead though are you sure itās a good idea
paper harness
Holy shit wtf is that swing speed
Imma step it up
vague depot
Heās going all in
fleet zealot
Push attacks look like a overhead though are you sure itās a good idea
It has silly cleave
Hence weave
If horde is dense
PA can kill lot more than just light spam
spare talon
Can you slide me your knife build and talents
last point in either atk speed or 2nd charge
fleet zealot
Idk im tired
spare talon
i use 2nd charge and dorn uses atk speed
south grove
@paper harness shred or wrath on chainsword
fleet zealot
Someone who is a knife addict do the hrode clear talk
south grove
I forgot to spec it on zealot
spare talon
"lacerate helps with horde clear" mfs when i show them knife one shots with a light attack
fleet zealot
<@1273699265243381802> shred or wrath on chainsword
Wrath rampage or wrath shred on mk13g
Shred rampage on mk4
paper harness
"lacerate helps with horde clear" mfs when i show them knife one shots with a li...
me when i hc faster than you anway
south grove
Wrath rampage or wrath shred on mk13g
which one to run first
vague depot
What about the knife
south grove
ughhhghghh
spare talon
paper harness
What about the knife
smite is a crutch and teaches bad habits
vague depot
What
spare talon
what
violet hornet
paper harness
i heard what you said in vc
vague depot
I didnāt say that
paper harness
vague depot
Someone else in the same vc with me did
dense field
shooting is a crutch
vague depot
Wait when did you even hear this
paper harness
and you disagreed
vague depot
I donāt even remember talking about smite
No I did not
I was asking for help in game
south grove
dorn grubs everywhere...
grizzled aspen
I swear vet has the weirdest dodges.
grizzled aspen
I seem to always be out of dodges compared to zealout and psyker.
fleet zealot
south grove
I seem to always be out of dodges compared to zealout and psyker.
feels like refresh is slower sometimes
I know it isn't
paper harness
dorn grubs everywhere...
spare talon
you may just be used to IJ
grizzled aspen
No it's not that, I don't run out of dodges on psyker either.
And I have 4 dodges on my shovel.
I just seem to never have a dodge when I need one.
vague depot
For the record I just wanna say I was not involved in the vc smite argument
I was too busy getting jumped by maulers
fleet zealot
Vet has less stam regen so you lean on dodges more
grizzled aspen
It ain't that either.
fleet zealot
Psyker has dodged related buffs and kd and the fastest stam regen
grizzled aspen
I have plenty of stamina.
zinc talon
violet hornet
Hitting them with the flat side of that pick
hard orbit
what dump stat on flamer and the best perks and blessings?
paper harness
damage
violet hornet
what dump stat on flamer and the best perks and blessings?
Damage is dump stat oddly enough, it doesn't effect the dot where the damage comes from
paper harness
flak unyeilding
violet hornet
Burn stat effects the dot
paper harness
overpressure blaze away
violet hornet
Or penetrating flames if you really want to kill crushers with it I have heard (may be worth for CIVI maelstrom as well)
hard orbit
if i run a dueling sword and a flamer,should i use the rush in with speed ult or the stealth?
paper harness
you need extreme luck to kill crushers with pen flames
hard orbit
Damage is dump stat oddly enough, it doesn't effect the dot where the damage com...
thoughts on this?
violet hornet
Ahh okay, I pretty much only take flamer for horde clear anyways if I have a good anti armor melee
violet hornet
thoughts on this?
I have a flamer with mobility dump and one with damage dump and they're pretty comparable
obsidian prairie
thoughts on this?
I would recommend a damage dump but thatās pretty good
violet hornet
Having that little extra dodge distance can be nice in harder difficulties tho
hard orbit
yeah but will be using dueling sword for my sweet dodges
jade sonnet
Are any of you secret psyker experts
obsidian prairie
Are any of you secret psyker experts
Looking for a smite build?
hard orbit
Are any of you secret psyker experts
in survivability yes but in builds no
obsidian prairie
The secret is: donāt
violet hornet
I only use illisi or DS with trauma and BB on psyker so I'm certainly no expert lol
fleet zealot
hard orbit
I only use illisi or DS with trauma and BB on psyker so I'm certainly no expert ...
deimos is my favourite pick for a melee
fleet zealot
Carapace elites rending blaze away discount fotf crusher melter
hard orbit
heavy 2 knocks over crushers
violet hornet
Deimos is great I just suck with it, definitely need more practice
I see others doing work with it tho
fleet zealot
Ive been really liking the mk7 shovel lately
hard orbit
overpressure blaze away
what are the best perks?
paper harness
flak unyielding
fleet zealot
Even if uncanny is stupidly op it feels way more ethical than combat blade and duelistsword
violet hornet
flak unyielding
Unyielding for the beast of nurgle burndown?
violet hornet
Oh definitely that's a good call
fleet zealot
Unyielding for the beast of nurgle burndown?
Only mob type that lives long enough
For 15 burn stacks to actually tick down
jade sonnet
Looking for a smite build?
I have done a few successful runs in auric with mine but I just don't know that it's the most effective it could be for team cohesion
obsidian prairie
I have done a few successful runs in auric with mine but I just don't know that ...
Thatās because smite is absolutely abysmal for damage unless built just right
And itās just holding down two buttons all game and occasionally pressing F
fleet zealot
And you want smite to be doing damage at least
jade sonnet
The way I have it can kill most elites and specialists excluding the giant ones without needing to stop
fleet zealot
Just stunning is delaying the game and making it harder for your team to hit things
obsidian prairie
It also blinds everyone
fleet zealot
Ep plus creeping flames
jade sonnet
And yeah I feel like I'm just running away a lot
obsidian prairie
And nukes enjoyment from orbit
fleet zealot
It also blinds everyone
Who has bloom turned on
obsidian prairie
As people no longer have to engage with any of the mechanics that make the game fun
fleet zealot
obsidian prairie
Who has bloom turned on
Itās also blinding in general because now everything is sparkly blue
fleet zealot
Dw fatshark will give smite 25% more damage again!
fleet zealot
Itās also blinding in general because now everything is sparkly blue
Maybe i dont notice cause of my blindness
violet hornet
Dw fatshark will give smite 25% more damage again!
Maybe they'll patch in the smite is free bug again lol
obsidian prairie
Make it accumulate charges of a close range stagger blast
fleet zealot
Lol that bug is terrible
violet hornet
Smykers slow walking the entire level to keep their free smite activation running
fleet zealot
Cause you actually want high peril for creeping flames and other buffs
hard orbit
it was the most god roll of god rolls
violet hornet
(it was me I was the smyker)
fleet zealot
Literally just turning the game into a glorified psykanium
spare talon
it was the most god roll of god rolls
i had this from pre-crafting update for the longest time
was a perfect 550
dclaw stats barely vary so clean spread was very nice
violet hornet
Is it a perfect 550 if it has 70 damage?
spare talon
it was a loss of like
2 damage
fleet zealot
spare talon
dclaw stats barely vary
fleet zealot
it was a loss of like
2 damage
Pathetic
spare talon
fleet zealot
Literally unplayable
hard orbit
if i run a dueling sword and a flamer,should i use the fury of the faithful ult or the stealth?
fleet zealot
I hope you find a bp you are 1-2 dmaage short for
fleet zealot
if i run a dueling sword and a flamer,should i use the fury of the faithful ult ...
Fotf path has duelist
So imo that one
violet hornet
if i run a dueling sword and a flamer,should i use the fury of the faithful ult ...
Fotf is the only one I use lol
fleet zealot
Also just more use cases while stealth is fairly 2 dimensional
violet hornet
You can charge while brace firing the flamer too
obsidian prairie
FotF also has burster dodging
obsidian prairie
If they explode while you are actively charging it does zero damage
spare talon
FotF also has burster dodging
violet hornet
Zealot swiss army knife ability
fleet zealot
Crit 20% attack speed with no downtime on crit builds
obsidian prairie
Taxe is just knife but fun
obsidian prairie
I get the zoomies but I have actually good horde clear and unga bunga combos
fleet zealot
I want to dogmaxx
violet hornet
Can zealot get shovels
My god yes please
dense field
if i run a dueling sword and a flamer,should i use the fury of the faithful ult ...
It literally doesn't matter
jagged cradle
I see why the caxe is strong nowā¦ itās so boring already
obsidian prairie
I see why the caxe is strong nowā¦ itās so boring already
Rashad would be more fun if it wasnāt slow as shit
violet hornet
Stan has infected your phone
obsidian prairie
Gladly
jagged cradle
Rashad would be more fun if it wasnāt slow as shit
Iām not using Rashad rn
violet hornet
I see why the caxe is strong nowā¦ itās so boring already
Nothing like that heavy attack variety lol
obsidian prairie
Iām not using Rashad rn
What variant then
violet hornet
Out here chopping wood
fleet zealot
Vet or psyker?
jagged cradle
What variant then
Mk 5
obsidian prairie
Names
violet hornet
Antax is slow
jagged cradle
Vet
obsidian prairie
Not numbers
violet hornet
Antax is mk 5
jagged cradle
Antax
fleet zealot
Yea rashad sleepy
hard orbit
what curios should i be running, stam mostly?
obsidian prairie
For knife?
obsidian prairie
One Stam one tough and one hp is good
You can also drop the Stam because itās just for push attacks
frosty herald
Toughness/health/wounds depending on build
obsidian prairie
Do not the wounds
obsidian prairie
You canāt even justify it with martyrdom because knife sucks for it
frosty herald
Do not the wounds
0 wounds martyr
obsidian prairie
0 wounds martyr
Dornās current build
hard orbit
For knife?
dueling sword plus flamer
obsidian prairie
Oh you donāt need stamina for that
fleet zealot
Oh yea dorn has started to hate martyrdom
obsidian prairie
2 tough 1 hp
obsidian prairie
I should do that
I donāt have a 3rd tough on zealot and have never thought about it
Sounds like a tomorrow problem
jagged cradle
Taxe does seem really fun Iām just not running a crit build rn
fleet zealot
Got my last 17% toughness curio for vet tho
obsidian prairie
And a single 21% hp as well
fleet zealot
If you arenāt, just go caxe
Crit taxe is like the one thing it tries to do
With itās crit bonus and finesse
obsidian prairie
And a single 21% hp as well
Across all characters btw
obsidian prairie
Is it really the random melk stuff that is best
fleet zealot
If you wanna force it
paper harness
Power cut
fleet zealot
Yes
paper harness
Fuck
obsidian prairie
Well hey you can put wound curios on now
honest burrow
What are the better ranged weapon options for someone who doesn't want to click on heads?
fleet zealot
Stalking shops is just going to give you trash so often and only time youāll get good ones
jagged cradle
If you arenāt, just go caxe
Exactly what Iām saying
fleet zealot
What are the better ranged weapon options for someone who doesn't want to click ...
Braced autoguns
obsidian prairie
What are the better ranged weapon options for someone who doesn't want to click ...
Provide a usecase
subtle cedar
What are the better ranged weapon options for someone who doesn't want to click ...
Brauto, boltgun
untold lily
Light attack basically everything and win
It is a useful tool if you have to carry
fleet zealot
Brauto, boltgun
No
honest burrow
Provide a usecase
me left click things die
fleet zealot
Boltgun wants to dance of death and land headshots
obsidian prairie
Be more descriptive
fleet zealot
They buffed itās finesse values
obsidian prairie
Single targets or groups
subtle cedar
š¤· my boltgun use case is generally "crusher deleto"
untold lily
Boltgun wants to dance of death and land headshots
Boltgun also crits every shot due to the blessing, but headshots never hurt us
honest burrow
Single targets or groups
What are the options for either?
fleet zealot
Specifically the agripina autogun
grizzled aspen
Boltgun also crits every shot due to the blessing, but headshots never hurt us
?
You mean surgical?
fleet zealot
Boltgun also crits every shot due to the blessing, but headshots never hurt us
Not everyshot but yes cavalcade pinning fire,
grizzled aspen
Also cavalcade pinning fire isn't BIS anymore.
fleet zealot
There is no reason to not aim for heads with dance of death
grizzled aspen
BIS is shattering puncture.
grizzled aspen
It's a 4shot kill on crushers from any distance.
fleet zealot
It's a 4shot kill on crushers from any distance.
Yea
subtle cedar
tho actually, even if you use it for full auto crusher deletion it's not the greatest for someone who doesn't want to aim cos often you wanna run knives on it
fleet zealot
Still i dont think bolter wualifies as a bodyshot weapon
subtle cedar
and you wanna be aiming those
fleet zealot
Itās a finesse power weapon
dense field
What are the better ranged weapon options for someone who doesn't want to click ...
flamer
grizzled aspen
"Finesse" kek.
subtle cedar
so yeah, Brauto
grizzled aspen
It really doesn't matter whether or not you headshot with boltgun on anything that isnt a boss.
fleet zealot
So no go
dense field
just move closer you coward
grizzled aspen
Headshots do not change any bp's.
fleet zealot
Itās brauto
fleet zealot
Headshots do not change any bp's.
Hashtag doubt
grizzled aspen
Like, it's not gonna magically make my 4shot crusher kill become a 3shot.
And that's the main usecase for boltgun.
fleet zealot
What about specials and elites lol
subtle cedar
also, shotguns i guess? but they're all kinda meh
grizzled aspen
First off, if you're using boltgun on specialists, there's an issue.
fleet zealot
Shotguns are great just uhh
grizzled aspen
You have tknives for that.
fleet zealot
Manstopper reliant
Yea
I forogt
Ive become vet main
Destroyer of balance
But all the shotguns are good enough on zealot
grizzled aspen
Second, you aren't going to be headshotting maulers because bodyshots do more damage due to their bodies being flak, and every bp is the same due to the 8 stacks of bleed you inflict with 2 bullets. (1 hipfire lmb)
subtle cedar
tbh vraks infauto doesn't do terribly as a bodyshot gun if you're running a crit build. obv it's definitely better with headshots (cept against maulers) but it's still capable
fleet zealot
Second, you aren't going to be headshotting maulers because bodyshots do *more* ...
I just dont belive with dance of death and duelist active
fleet zealot
tbh vraks infauto doesn't do terribly as a bodyshot gun if you're running a crit...
The convo should be focused on agri brauto
But hyperfixation on boltgun is guess
subtle cedar
yes that's the main one
grizzled aspen
Maybe duellist can cut a bullet out of your crusher bp, but one, that's a pain in the ass to do, and two, bodyshots are right there and they're consistent.
fleet zealot
Maybe duellist can cut a bullet out of your crusher bp, but one, that's a pain i...
Dance of death makes it dumby easy
subtle cedar
shredder doesn't get that much out of headshots either
fleet zealot
And you always get it if you grab twbs
subtle cedar
but well
grizzled aspen
Dance of death makes it dumby easy
No I'm meaning you have to shoot them once ADS and once hipfire because hipfire always fires twice.
To shoot only 3 bullets, I mean.
fleet zealot
shredder doesn't get that much out of headshots either
Shreddr kinda doo doo
Is the issue
But yea
It doesnāt need headshots
paper harness
Duelist is pretty stupid with ciag + raking and stacking unyielding damage
fleet zealot
Si if you arenāt going heads
paper harness
1 mag full bon
subtle cedar
i wouldn't say it's awful... but it's a worse Vrinfauto
paper harness
And shotguns
paper harness
I once saw a book user hit 50k at the end of a 90 min silo cluster I-II
He would use the knife to run away
Then use book
????
dense field
knife is there only for the IoD
for more book
to stall the game even longer
asylum patient behavior
dense field
I've had a game like this today
paper harness
I donāt care about players being bad and not doing much
Just try and play the game
fleet zealot
Just try and play the game
He is carrying you
And your team
Because you can carry without doing damage or killing
fleet zealot
Because he played mercy in overwatch
spare talon
that match wanted to rip our nuts off
dense field
but instead of """"supports"""" we had a gunker with a dome instead of SG
fleet zealot
And now all games must be in that design
dense field
and a purg enjoyer with a dome
fleet zealot
but instead of """"supports"""" we had a gunker with a dome instead of SG
Tbf dome gunker
Isnāt that bad
DD still gives you a ton of bonuses
dense field
he had 200k damage
fleet zealot
well duh
dense field
in a 47 min game
paper harness
but instead of """"supports"""" we had a gunker with a dome instead of SG
Engee viewer
fleet zealot
The player personally sucked
But ive seen a few good shield gunkers
They play like they are in halo or titanfall
Aggressively moving forward with shield as portable cover
dense field
I wish
paper harness
Players that know they arenāt good are fantastic team mates
fleet zealot
Good enough i dont immediately discount it until i see it
paper harness
Players that donāt but do 200k are not
south grove
someone told me that orange means weakspot hit, double hitmarker means crits, and red double hitmarker means crit kill, and on top of that pogryn has its guts as a weakspot
dense field
oh my god
fleet zealot
Carrying- steam forums
hard nexus
I once saw a book user hit 50k at the end of a 90 min silo cluster I-II
how in the fuck do you play a 90 minute game
fleet zealot
Surviving, cc, kiting carries harder than kills and damage sorry sweatie elitist discorder
paper harness
Cannot just finish the map
hard nexus
oh
paper harness
hard nexus
well
fleet zealot
Silo cluster sucks ass lmao
hard nexus
silo cluster is the map with the stairway into the big open area at the beginning right
paper harness
Yeah
fleet zealot
It has zero chill at the start then it kinda calms down for the mid event only to get even worse
hard nexus
trying 3 remember the end event of that map
fleet zealot
The long tunnel of death into the finale from hell
paper harness
The one the pubs get cut to bits in the beginning and end
fleet zealot
Makes me wish for hab dreyko
dense field
I love hab dreyko
paper harness
The respawn has no cover
fleet zealot
Cause at least hab dreyko doesnāt have a million trash shooter hiding spots
paper harness
Flak unyielding flak maniac
fleet zealot
Silo cluster is bridge elevator down, corruption daemon
spare talon
Just move it
the respawn should be on the left side of the train in that room
fleet zealot
i never really found it too bad
They made it worse
paper harness
i never really found it too bad
You havenāt played eu pub
fleet zealot
Itās probably the worst map
paper harness
hard nexus
They made it worse
in a recent patch?
fleet zealot
Right now