zealot-class

[stone fern]

why does taxe have like 2 stamina?

[misty nova]

Good question

[stone fern]

if anything it should be +4

since its lighter than a combat axe wich is +3

[vagrant blade]

hey guys i just made a zealot help me find a fitting name

[keen tinsel]

Doug

[opal star]

jonkler

[stone fern]

#🎒support-issues

[opal star]

what

[stone fern]

i couldnt find the channel i had to link it

[light badge]

good morning zealot chat

I did the thing where you go back to sleep after waking up to elicit lucid dreams

it was awful because I imagined playing a dead by daylight match for some god forsaken reason

[stone fern]

good morning someone ran 2 rooms ahead of the team died then told us to eat dookie

i am firing up the report system for the first time in my life

[hard nexus]

it’s one of the best toughness generation talent in the game

[stone fern]

where can i upload lossless videos? at ~500mb

[merry flume]

worst part is that they don't even let you know if they took action anymore

second worst part is that there's no report system in game

why

why do you have to go out of your way to figure out how to report, just for you to not get a confirmation if it even fucking worked

[stone fern]

my biggest regret is not saying you're not that guy before leaving

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle-frustrated-garbage-trash-gif-27186872

[misty ravine]

If it was too easy it would be used frivolously? Best I can think of

[merry flume]

fatshark moderation team

[merry flume]

oh no they have to do their jobs

[stone fern]

all they have to do is scan the text chat for bad words

thatll filter out 80% of the results

[merry flume]

honestly

fucking team...

@stone fern he's in the discord lmao

[light badge]

I've discovered a very weird negative team synergy

[stone fern]

[merry flume]

maybe

[stone fern]

no witch hunts blah blah 😭

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/bedtime-mouse-despereaux-big-ears-im-all-ears-gif-17642125

[light badge]

on my build I usually stand in front of firing squads to build peril > shriek

[merry flume]

wait i have eggs and sausage in the fridge

BREAKFAST TIME

[spice flame]

But everyone says it's bad?

[vagrant blade]

shoot teammates to build up stacks of blaze away and dumdum

[spice flame]

Or it has been updated now?

[light badge]

if I have a bubble psyker on the team though, I'm suddenly no longer building peril

[opal star]

who tf is "everyone"

[spice flame]

this entire server

all I've spoken to

for the past 2 years lol

or ever since the talent tree update

I have never in my life heard anything good about second win

wind

[misty ravine]

They can have a bot trawl through text chats for offenses of that sort

The people who most deserve to get smacked by moderation are griefers and they can fuck everything up without saying a word. Fatshark has left a skeleton crew on DT, I imagine their moderators hands are already beyond full

[visual stream]

"Everyone" has brain damage and they must not have been in this chat

[vagrant blade]

being a jerk is not a reportable offense

it would take something outrageous for the mod team to swoop in and save the day

[light badge]

I have a very high standard for what I consider reportable

[spice flame]

I've heard for ages that Second Win doesn't do what it says it does

and that it's a trap to take it

[opal star]

you can look up second wind in the search rn and see (mostly) positive words about it

[visual stream]

Maybe you're thinking of Swift Certainty?

[spice flame]

maybe idk

was quite sure it is SW

[vagrant blade]

what talent is second wind btw ? replenish toughness on dodge ?

[opal star]

ya

[light badge]

for example, the psyker I met the other day named "Loli-Khan". criminally unfunny name

but, then I noticed he was using an lmb spam build with smite

[merry flume]

the golden rule in videogame discussion boards of any type is to take any opinion with a grain of salt unless you've:

• played with the person yourself
• tested the theory yourself

[light badge]

straw that broke the camels back

[vagrant blade]

oh yeah then it's a really good talent. I take it even on non-crit builds just for the value it provides

[wary timber]

On successful dodge? If its that one then yes this is very good

[visual stream]

He will be stoned trust 🙏

[merry flume]

funniest Warhammer fan

[wary timber]

I honestly dunno how to feel about this..

[light badge]

I hope so

[visual stream]

Loli-Khan sounds like the type of mf to kriegpost

[vagrant blade]

psyker with unfunny name: I sleep. Psyker who holds smite 99% of the mission:

[light badge]

their username is a reference to child pr0n
that is the report reason

just shitposting about the lmb spam portion

[wary timber]

Bru moment.

[light badge]

though I'd be lying if I said it didn't make me more inclined to report him lol

[wary timber]

Understandable

[visual stream]

"It's just a fictional character"

https://tenor.com/view/jojos-bizarre-adventure-milton-jojo-kicking-fight-gif-16647809

[merry flume]

I consider myself kinda weird but compared to the average internet dweller I am the most normal person ever

[visual stream]

Truth

[wary timber]

Yuh

[visual stream]

I'm strange but I'm not degenerative

[light badge]

"she's actually 1000 years old in the official lore book"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1173401290492100718/dtdontcare.gif

[visual stream]

Don't mind that the character still acts completely like a child too

[merry flume]

I am a vrchat player so I experience the pot meet kettle situation often

[light badge]

on god

[opal star]

lolicons get too much of a platform on twitter

[merry flume]

also the conversation will attract a mod to tell you all to stop yapping

[light badge]

probably, yeah

[hard nexus]

i have never seen anyone call second wind bad

[vagrant blade]

prepare for orbital strike to nuke this discussion

[light badge]

everyone gets too much of a platform on twitter X

[hard nexus]

you’re def thinking of swift certainty

[opal star]

you're so real for this

[merry flume]

second wind can keep you indefinitely alive if you always play like you only have 25% health

[visual stream]

This was after I tried to reason with them

[stone fern]

[visual stream]

Of course most people with vices are steadfast in being unreasonable

[merry flume]

that's ur first mistake

[hard nexus]

vic

[merry flume]

hi

[hard nexus]

do u wanna play in a sec

[stone fern]

im sure the loading screen has 90 quotes for that

[merry flume]

yeah making brekky

[hard nexus]

kk

[stone fern]

WITHOUT ME?!?!?!?

[hard nexus]

dm me when ur ready

[hard nexus]

yeah we can carry you if u want

[vagrant blade]

hey lets do a zealot only party and do monster maelstrom

[stone fern]

i litearlly did the second most damage in my game with u and in the dev stream

however if its scabs

[merry flume]

90% of the games I play in this discord are zealot only lol

[stone fern]

yes pls

gaa gaa goo goo carry me

[hard nexus]

doing second most damage is easy lol

[misty ravine]

Just double checked the Zealot mechanics guide on Steam and found out Second Wind procs on sliding too, which I didn't know after all this time. Do we still say poggers here?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3088553235

[hard nexus]

doing most damage is also easy

[stone fern]

this is kinda old

[hard nexus]

no we don’t say poggers

but

yes

[visual stream]

poggers

[hard nexus]

no it’s not

[stone fern]

dorn is making an updated one

isnt it?

[hard nexus]

kuli’s guide is still accurate

[merry flume]

doing damage in general is easy because there's always shit in melee range in this game

[hard nexus]

dorn is just making an in depth guide about zealot as a whole

[hard nexus]

unless u have a purg psyker

or smite psyker

ok brb

[stone fern]

when do i get one but with trappers

[light badge]

total damage < elites and specials killed

[wary timber]

Daily reminder kriegers in 40K are 17 and are pizza faces.

[stone fern]

more like their faces are fused to their masks

[opal star]

kriegers in 40k are 17 and what

https://tenor.com/view/pizza-tower-pizzaface-peppino-evil-gif-5116348687349507916

[light badge]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-buddy-the-elf-morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-gif-9065696250474316443

[rare geyser]

What are 17 and what

[stone fern]

ewwww

wtf is this weapon

this is gross

[opal star]

chainaxe

[opal star]

oh you're gonna LOVE the lights

[drifting wolf]

17 and NERDS!!!

[stone fern]

heavy 2 cancels on sprinting

on both marks

@hard nexus r u going now or should i qp?

[fleet zealot]

Business trips are tax deductible

[opal star]

how many ferrets do you have

[stone fern]

awkward.......

[misty nova]

A business

Heh get it?

[misty ravine]

Helldivers 2 Mentioned

[opal star]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-salute-gif-8108032990738097175

mine's cooler

[misty ravine]

Well I just stole it, now mine is just as cool

[stone fern]

gonna kms

[heady rapids]

DIED WITH THREE STUN NADES LEFT

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/929905868403798076/1141167409672241163/0001-0074.gif

[stone fern]

by the time i switch to them i woulda died

[misty nova]

Clad sees bulwark then gets blinded by rage

[stone fern]

alo tru

i usually leave and let the team deal

[misty nova]

Bring back chastise into squishy bits to stun bulwarks

[wary timber]

Ah I love zealots stealth ability lol

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

what are you doing!!!!

also why did u jump

[dense field]

tried to fly away

[feral falcon]

heretic spotted

[stone fern]

me

[dense field]

same

[distant lagoon]

trying to carry uncarrable potatoes

[hushed knoll]

Potatoes don’t play video games

[distant lagoon]

little do you know

[dense field]

how

[paper harness]

Imagine leaving score on like it matters

[merry flume]

wonder what it says for them

why does my "who are you" mod not work anymore after updating

grrr..

[pure tree]

https://tenor.com/view/treyreloaded-gif-25522323

[paper harness]

I need more ammo

[pure tree]

Stinky Dorn, stanking up the chat

He hunger

[paper harness]

Hungy

[pure tree]

You became the gungryn to destroy the gungryn

[ember yew]

FS backend server is dead

[visual stream]

Double bleed knife

[ember yew]

all these mods (who are you, true level) sometimes dont work

or work with delay

[visual stream]

I asked a psyker why ft/lac last night and they said it's good for starving out big groups

Where do so many people get the notion that it's good? Which DT youtuber says this

[merry flume]

flesh tearer with one crit and scourge gives 3/4 of the max bleed stack

i don't get why people use both

[visual stream]

His perks were also crit chance and crit damage

[merry flume]

anything that doesn't die to that initial burst would get 16 stacks almost immediately

[visual stream]

While using blessings that make you ignore the finesse modifier

???

[dense field]

poor guy

[misty nova]

Crit chance I get it

[merry flume]

idk people just like bleed builds

they also like spamming lights and turning their brain off

[visual stream]

I've never heard of people actually enjoying watching paint dry but double bleed knife is like the same thing but DT

[dense field]

https://tenor.com/view/river-of-blood-gif-14895915217785340697

[visual stream]

True that

[merry flume]

i hate using lights with the knife, give us more weapons that force you to mix heavies in

[visual stream]

The lights are the least fun part of the knife

Heavy big damage, PA big damage, heavy sprinting is zoom

Lights are just there

[hushed knoll]

[visual stream]

HI STAN

[hushed knoll]

[jagged cradle]

Omg Rob

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-funny-cat-bonk-bonk-bonk-bonk-bonk-bonk-bonk-cat-funny-hammer-gif-22703304

[surreal shore]

guyss

on zealot

[stone fern]

i got dogged reading that

[surreal shore]

whats the build on bolter?

[stone fern]

unyielding carapace/flak shattering impact puncture

carapace if you're too lazy to aim for crusher heads

[surreal shore]

puncture????

[stone fern]

flak will pretty much make you one tap all elites

[surreal shore]

isnt that like

[stone fern]

puncture

[surreal shore]

troll build?

[stone fern]

no

[surreal shore]

seriously?

[stone fern]

yes

[surreal shore]

like i thought you only used it on bolt pistol cuz you coudlnt aim with it XD

so pinning fire isnt meta anymore?

[stone fern]

nah

puncture is really nice with bolter you can spray bosses and instantly get them to max bleed stacks

helps get scourge going

and gets you to one tap a lot of things on non weakspots

[dense field]

yeah, tox bombers just bleed out even if you only land a body shot

[surreal shore]

i see okay

so its legit now

thx

whats the build

on bolt pistol then?

[dense field]

Puncture and surgical or lethal proximity is the usual

[distant lagoon]

puncture again?

[dense field]

Yes, puncture again

[hard nexus]

machasm station

i dealt 600k damage

none of my teammates breached 150

and we lost

because

a teammate left

instead of getting the dog off of me

wasnt even at the end of the mission

it was before that drop down into the tunnels

[stone fern]

noob

[visual compass]

I always try to run TMR

The knockback is so insanely powerful

I think it still works on monsters too

[untold lily]

god it's so good, I can level all shitty ranged weapons without ever holding them

[misty nova]

Peak 15 behavior

[visual compass]

Do share

[untold lily]

Nah isn't mine so I'll leave that to the author

respect is important in that regard

[hushed knoll]

[paper harness]

@hard nexus

[untold lily]

I don't even think it is publicly listed as I can't find it on the site

I can show you how I butchered it tho

But then he will be like "look what u did to my boy"

[visual compass]

I'm just curious if it's anything like my Evis build

[opaque island]

ive been playing this game for almost 600 hours and i havent even touched an auric or maelstrom mission

[visual compass]

I'm at the point where I'm trying to kinda expand how I'm playing Darktide since I've already kinda beaten the game lmao

So new builds new ideas new matches etc.

[hard nexus]

uhh

gimme a sec

in a game

[visual compass]

nw

[ornate bone]

[visual compass]

I'm just eating breakfast and seeing if anyone needs a queue

[hard nexus]

yall

chain sword

mk13g chainsword

is a little broken

im ngl

[hard nexus]

do u want mk3 or mk15 evis

[surreal shore]

GUYS

whats hte build

on chainaxe

on zealot?

[hard nexus]

@paper harness

i think he knows

[paper harness]

IJ

[amber igloo]

stalwart

[paper harness]

Slaughterer headtaker

[grizzled aspen]

I thought mk12 wanted headtaker + thrust?

[paper harness]

Mk12 is shit

[grizzled aspen]

You're shit.

[visual compass]

I perfer the 15

[paper harness]

It’s just a worse mk4

[grizzled aspen]

You're a worse mk4.

[hard nexus]

kk

[paper harness]

If your auric storm survivor reset would you be upset

[grizzled aspen]

Perhaps.

But it's also a game so...

[stable cypress]

No

[grizzled aspen]

Is this some dev-ass-kissing threat or something, Dorn?

[hard nexus]

theres a few options, but the best is probably this

faithful frenzy can be swapped for the second chastise charge if desired

[surreal shore]

mkiv

whats the ubild?

whats the build on it?

[hard nexus]

or, you can forgo crit cdr entirely as you dont really need it on the mk15, the chastise attack speed is nice but the damage isnt needed to reach really any breakpoints

[lean cairn]

@paper harness whats the best mission for true solo

[plush estuary]

sycorex

or whatever its called

cant spell

[visual compass]

Any reason for picking Rampage over Perfect Strike?

[hard nexus]

don’t need it

[hard nexus]

you have 10 cleave by default, and you’ll one shot any carapace

[frank jasper]

man the OG thunder hammer is bloody amazing.

[visual compass]

Is that with a revved heavy headshot?

Or body?

[hard nexus]

yarp

[visual compass]

CTW or?

[hard nexus]

crit rev on carapace head will one shot

no need for chastise

bloodthirsty is my preferred build, instead of shred

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iE9WgDUtBK69iLof4/d13372XcZ2go?invite=cr-MSxCQ3ksMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[paper harness]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d553908-4f1d-4313-bf9d-9c296f29c4e0/standard-zealot-build-ij?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[hard nexus]

bloodthirsty lets you do this

[paper harness]

Sycorax

[opaque island]

whats the absolutely worst build you've ever seen

[visual compass]

Je vois, I've only ever used it on the Illisi sword.

[lean cairn]

i got sick of sycorax

[paper harness]

It is 50/50 between engee and phra

[hard nexus]

idk what that means

oh

i see

[visual compass]

I've seen some really bad ones before the Talent tree update, but since then it's kinda hard to go wrong.

[hard nexus]

evis is pretty flexible, you can do a lot with it

mk15 is strong enough on its own

[paper harness]

The hardest solo maps are chasm station and magestrati oubliette

[hard nexus]

that u don’t really need much more

mk3 evis is built entirely differently though

[paper harness]

Basically twins fight at the end of the run

[visual compass]

I guess tbf I was running PS back when the crit for cdr was based on enemies cleaved

So it's not as good now

[lean cairn]

i was trying mercantile but it gets so full of enemies at that first event and it's a 50/50 whether i can plant the data interrogator

[paper harness]

It’s timing

[visual compass]

I've been too busy playing mobility weapons

[paper harness]

You need stealth or double charge

[hard nexus]

perfect strike is better on the mk3 on a crit build, it’s just unnecessary on the mk15

[lean cairn]

i was doing it without stealth which made it harder

[hard nexus]

it’s a fun meme

[paper harness]

Double charge is required to solo plant

[hard nexus]

but it’s not very valueable, and it’s counterproductive to bloodthirsty

[visual compass]

Solo plant?

[paper harness]

Both are counter productive

[lean cairn]

i got like 3/4 of the way through sycorax no stealth no rushing then a beast and trapper spawned on that staircase part and i shit myself and got trapped

[hard nexus]

how does charge give u plant?

[visual compass]

As in a wall charge?

Or?

[hard nexus]

what’s counter productive

[lean cairn]

data interrogator

[visual compass]

Ah

[paper harness]

You need to hit that drop with a charge, land on the floor and charge

It’s really annoying

[hard nexus]

ah

i see

[surreal shore]

ehm

where is teh axes build?

that has devil calw on it XD

[paper harness]

Slaughterer headtaker flak unyielding

[surreal shore]

THanks

[lean cairn]

@paper harness do true solo rolling steel

[surreal shore]

also mark 12 i say i smore of vet item

[hard nexus]

bloodthirsty and perfect strike?

[surreal shore]

cuz vet can 1 shot crushers with it

[paper harness]

I have

Never again

[lean cairn]

proof

[paper harness]

Guess I need to record it

Fuck my life

[visual compass]

dw I get it

[paper harness]

I don’t wanna play vet with infiltrate

[visual compass]

I like infiltrate

But that's cuz I don't play it like a stealth ability

I treat it like an adrenalin rush/ambush ability per se

[hard nexus]

soooo like stealth

lmfao

[visual compass]

I usually take the 50% dr and 15% and 30% dmg nodes

[paper harness]

It takes 2 charges and a full double charge per obj

[lean cairn]

i forgot vet had stealth

[visual compass]

Frag nades

[paper harness]

It’s literally impossible to do without stealth

The spawns too close

[hard nexus]

not for me though

stay safe yall

[visual compass]

If I had to

[paper harness]

I think mk3 evis does too much damage

[lean cairn]

record you doing true solo rolling steel with chorus

[paper harness]

[visual compass]

I'd do a Grenadier Stealth build

[visual compass]

against what

[paper harness]

I did a duo with chorus

On high shock rolling steel

[visual compass]

Actually don't listen to me I've only touched the Mk3 once

[paper harness]

Maybe the mk3 evis heavies need to have a 30% adm reduction

[lean cairn]

i recorded a 3veg true solo running through the whole map not killing anything and idk why people upload this

[visual compass]

adm?

[lean cairn]

it was boring to play and to watch

[paper harness]

Because people think that is the only way to solo

Knife, stealth

[lean cairn]

a heresy level player could do it

[paper harness]

My record on sycorax solo was 6 mins 10

[visual compass]

I used to be a Low Profile enjoyer

[paper harness]

Docket farming

[visual compass]

no longer

I'm a Hunter's Resolve main forever now

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/mimimimimi-cat-sleeping-snoring-cat-sleeping-cat-drooling-cat-gif-23979759

stealth..

[lean cairn]

im still annoyed about that run i did on ascension riser where i did the hack without stealth but died from falling off a clif because of the weird geometry in the big room with the collapsed bit

wasnt auric though

[vague depot]

Should I take shroud or fotf on knife

I keep getting told both are good and I can’t choose for myself

[paper harness]

Shroud is for pussies

[hard nexus]

i know ur baiting me

but

explode anyway

[visual compass]

lmao

[paper harness]

Think I will have it nerfed

[visual compass]

Y'know what I hope they don't nerf? How good Flamer Zealot is now.

[hard nexus]

on that note, i think mk13g chainsword is like

actually really strong

probably the best generalist weapon on zealot

[visual compass]

I do like the chainsword now

[hard nexus]

tbh

[paper harness]

I hope they kill all infinite cleave weapons

[hard nexus]

mk13g doesn’t have infinite cleave

[paper harness]

Trauma, purg, flamer

[hard nexus]

ohh

yeah

ehhhehehh

idk

[paper harness]

Add in plasma for that as well

[hard nexus]

purg yes

but idk about flamer

[visual compass]

I ran 2 wounds 1 toughness curio for martyrdom with that chainsword and it's amazing.

[blazing pulsar]

Shroud is usually better with knife due to the mobility and crack oneshots you get etc but fotf is just fun but not that great with knife imo

[vague depot]

Can I take on a group of bulwarks with the evis

[visual compass]

They're so fun though!

[lean cairn]

evisc should always be revved and when you hit an enemy you get locked into an unskippable 4 second animation of cutting them in half doom glory kill style

even if its a groaner

[hard nexus]

i run with IJ with crit CDR, you one shot everything and attack so stupidly fast

[heady rapids]

yeah with perfect strike easily

[visual compass]

It's really satisfying playing flamer zealot now

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

no iframes either

[hard nexus]

kinda

[paper harness]

Why are you using perfect strike when a single vertical does the job

[visual compass]

Honestly I still think they coulda gave the chainsaw rip iframes

[stone fern]

HUH

[visual compass]

Instead of what they did

[stone fern]

how

explain combos

[visual compass]

But they made that choice long ago

[stone fern]

perks and blessings NOW

[paper harness]

Nothing has iframes outside of running away from gunners

[paper harness]

Clad just shit fr

[visual compass]

And dodges I mean

[stone fern]

didnt know i could put shit on a chainsword

[visual compass]

Unless those aren't I frames just not able to be hit frames

[paper harness]

Dodges don’t give iframes

You can still be hit

[lean cairn]

bruiser moment

[paper harness]

It’s toughness damage reduction

[visual compass]

I was thinking moreso chaos spawn grab ie

[ember yew]

damage

is a dumpstat

[hard nexus]

wrath shred, flak elites (i think), with standard IJ build into crit cdr

light attacks for horde, heavies for single target, chastise rev can one shot crushers and maulers

[paper harness]

Owned

[hard nexus]

it’s an objectively better mk3 evis

lol

[stone fern]

thats exactly what i had for mk4

[paper harness]

[stone fern]

[hard nexus]

mk13g is better

[paper harness]

Mk3 evis coper

[stone fern]

I tried blood letter for a while

[hard nexus]

:((((

[stone fern]

its ok but eh

[hard nexus]

ITS

SO SAD

[stone fern]

combos?

[paper harness]

Are you sure it is not your setup with perfect strike

[stone fern]

i just spam heavies on mk4

[lean cairn]

whats the most bleed you can get on a build on any class

[hard nexus]

doesn’t help with any BPs except bosses

[paper harness]

16

[hard nexus]

what i just said

[lean cairn]

i mean like whats the most bleedy build

[paper harness]

Lacerate flesh tearer piety

[stone fern]

lmao chat moved too fast sorry

[paper harness]

Crit chance

[hard nexus]

even with rampage savage sweep still struggles

and rampage shred

they all struggle

[fleet zealot]

actually and not a joke? bleed caps at 16 so you want uncanny strike+flesh tearer

[visual compass]

Alright I'm bored I'm gonna go stab things with my Helbore

toodles

[stone fern]

blood letter on mk4 lets me one shot muties and ragers i think on revved lights

[hard nexus]

all good

[fleet zealot]

and going scourge->fotf->blazing piety

[stone fern]

its not horrible

but idk

its too conditional

[hard nexus]

also throwing knives should put one stack of bleed onto the target hit

for scourge

i think that’d be cool

[fleet zealot]

at least bloodletter chsword is full 16 stacks

[violet hornet]

Flesh tearer lacerate knife

[fleet zealot]

on evi it's 8

[visual compass]

They do if you have a bleeding weapon equipped

[jagged cradle]

You can stab things with it?

[hard nexus]

yah ik but i mean by default

[visual compass]

Knives get weapon blessings

[hard nexus]

it’s 14, chain axe is 16, evis is 8

[visual compass]

I'm currently led to believe it has the longest melee range of any weapon

[jagged cradle]

Uncanny tknifes my favorite

[visual compass]

Except Ogryn Pickaxe

So it's a literal speargun

[hard nexus]

actually no evis is 6 lol

[fleet zealot]

manstopper tknifes

[lean cairn]

i dont like the mk6 knife at all

[fleet zealot]

LMAO

[visual compass]

Besides the Helbore also has the bayonet charge movetech

[paper harness]

Because it is worse than the 3

[placid fiber]

Just imagine: Manstopper uncanny tknives

[jagged cradle]

I unfortunately use the mk3 for a gimmick build so I don’t have that luxury

[fleet zealot]

that's rough, only weapon that can actually cleave the bleed stacks has it nerfed to 6

[lean cairn]

thats what im sayin

[visual compass]

mark 5

[lean cairn]

harder to hit headshots

[hard nexus]

a few other personalities here massively disagree lmfaooo

[jagged cradle]

Also valid

[hard nexus]

but i agree tbh

[lean cairn]

not really better in horde clear

[hard nexus]

i think mk3 just feels better in general

[jagged cradle]

It does

[paper harness]

They are wrong

[jagged cradle]

But that’s were all the positives end

[paper harness]

[paper harness]

You can no longer have opinions

[jagged cradle]

Lmao

[paper harness]

Mk3 coper

[hard nexus]

i can

[paper harness]

[hard nexus]

explode

[stone fern]

you guies...

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-meme-ratio-mald-cope-gif-27600841

[stone fern]

you're both wrong knife sucks ass in general

[hard nexus]

get this man a true

[placid fiber]

I tried that earlier, it sucked

[paper harness]

I mogged you with the worst dueling sword

[hard nexus]

i haven’t used knife in so long that when i tried it again, i did awful

[paper harness]

When you were running martyrdom Rashad

[jagged cradle]

Can you guys argue in a more entertaining way

[paper harness]

[stone fern]

my mercy killer executor knife doesnt do damage

[hard nexus]

yeah like this

[jagged cradle]

wtf meow I didn’t want to see that

[paper harness]

Yeah you did

[jagged cradle]

Not at all actually

[stone fern]

I was at full hp most of the time except two rooms

[placid fiber]

could have been worse... could have been pregmando...

[stone fern]

i had no keystone

[jagged cradle]

….im not going to ask

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-poe-hop-on-path-of-exile-hop-on-poe-path-of-exile-gif-14696285276794066676

[stone fern]

go ahead

[ornate bone]

I'd watch

[stone fern]

spend 40 minutes rechecking the footage

[placid fiber]

Good, you don't want to know

[visual compass]

||Dorn how do you feel about the Mark 5 Duelling Sword having the most dodge distance out of any weapon because FS forgot to patch it when they killed Defense giving Vet Shovel's dodge distance.||

[violet hornet]

When you run martyrdom but your team doesn't leave any enemies alive for you to drop health with

[visual compass]

Barrel

[stone fern]

count my wounds frame to frame

[jagged cradle]

o7

[paper harness]

I have literally dodged two overheads at the same time

[stone fern]

do it

[paper harness]

It is crazy

[vague depot]

Should I go martyrdom or ij for caxe if I want the most damage

[stone fern]

nah fatshark was just eating most of the aggro

[visual compass]

Alas I think dodge distance is capped at 15%

[placid fiber]

I didn't want to know either, but, I found out... x.x

[paper harness]

You got mogged

[scenic chasm]

which combat blade mark is better?

[placid fiber]

Yes

[visual compass]

I prefer the Mark 7

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-cat-upset-annoyed-perturbed-gif-2678264647403754706

[paper harness]

3

[visual compass]

But again, I'm using Helbore

[placid fiber]

that's the devil's claw

[visual compass]

And Helbore has one of those fun blessings

[visual compass]

Mark 6*

I'm dyslexic for roman numerals okay

[placid fiber]

but... iv means 4...

[visual compass]

IT SAYS VI

[stone fern]

i had 3 wounds or less for most of the game except the bathrooms

[placid fiber]

Yeah I wrote it backwards x.x

[stone fern]

go ahead check the footage and tell me my keystone uptime

[paper harness]

Sucks to suck

[stone fern]

damn

[paper harness]

Rashad stronger than ds5

[visual compass]

proof

[stone fern]

i was trying to bait you into wasting 40 minutes 😭

[paper harness]

What is this

[placid fiber]

I know, and VI backwards is IV

[visual compass]

Serrated Blade Vet

[heady rapids]

vet chat is a channel above

[paper harness]

Crafted crit chance and first target dump

Why are you like this

[vague depot]

Should I run martyrdom or ij on caxe

[paper harness]

Martydom makes you not be able to go within 500ft of schools

[visual compass]

Well feel free to critique me

[paper harness]

See clad for that

[stone fern]

HEY

[visual compass]

lol

[vague depot]

So is it dogshit or just really really damn good with caxe

[visual compass]

Also yes ik but I'm using the 10% brittleness for Crit, helps make it easier to hit the Crusher BP without proper Uncanny stacks

It's mostly just a weakspot build since I'm using Hotshot with my Helbore

But again this is Vet stuff

[lean cairn]

dorn can you review my gameplay

[paper harness]

cringe

[paper harness]

go post in telos

[placid fiber]

You do know the 10% weakspot is only adding like... 10 damage right?

[paper harness]

they will give real feedback and not 3 words

[vague depot]

How is it

[placid fiber]

10% elites would do a lot more lol

[paper harness]

precog is better mercy killer

[placid fiber]

that's for a Vet, I think

[paper harness]

50

lol

no

[lean cairn]

i'd use hellbore if it didnt sound so weak

[paper harness]

20 to carapace

[desert fractal]

hallo shouties

runk 'opes you all are doin good

[placid fiber]

and how much does 10% elites add?

[visual compass]

Elaborate

Does finesse dmg scale better than weakspot?

[placid fiber]

finesse is weakspot and crit damage

[visual compass]

Noted

Also I get where he's coming from but like

[visual compass]

Vet has serrated blade, so it just takes 1 light attack to proc Mk on a target

Plus lights actually clear hordes now

[placid fiber]

hence why I stated this

[fleet zealot]

Huh

[visual compass]

exactly

Either way I've mostly been playing Flamer or Support Zealot lately

[placid fiber]

MK is viable on the Vet

[paper harness]

60% weakspot

or 60% more finesse modifier

[placid fiber]

viable does not mean better lol

[fleet zealot]

Don’t use weakspot perk it calculates terrible (only increases the bonus damage of said weakspot, not the entire hit)

[visual compass]

Again, I know.

[fleet zealot]

Then why did you craft it

Are we being baited

[placid fiber]

We are

[fleet zealot]

Professionally

[paper harness]

you said the trigger word

[plush estuary]

support

[fleet zealot]

Nah i have support zealot censored in my brain

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

[fleet zealot]

Just like i have suppressing gunners censored

Cause if i see it

Ill go feral

https://tenor.com/view/jimbob-gif-20937633

[visual compass]

I'm missing the lore

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-attack-gif-24550066

[visual compass]

I just mean Zealot with Chorus and all the talents that buff teammates in coherency.

[fleet zealot]

Person was claiming it is better to shoot above the gunners heads for suppression rather than shooting them directly to damage

[placid fiber]

They deserve this

[stone fern]

being banned from school zones?

[fleet zealot]

All 4 of them?

[lean cairn]

i play support zealot with invocation of death and a critmaxxed build so i can do chorus more often

[vague depot]

No lmao martyrdom caxe

[visual compass]

lmao

[paper harness]

die

[fleet zealot]

When shooting directly at an enemy suppresses and staggers them

[stone fern]

its very good however you wont get much cooldown on combat ability

[visual compass]

Yeah so, the 60% dr, the 1.5 corruption cleanse, Chorus with the defense buff, and then Blazing Piety with the 10% crit spread.

[vague depot]

Why

[fleet zealot]

Tbf martyrdom doesn’t need it

[paper harness]

whyyyyyyy

[fleet zealot]

I hope i never meet you ingame

[paper harness]

negative dps build

[stone fern]

u dont get it support zealot is very useful!!!!!!

[visual compass]

Why not?

[gilded coral]

are there any advantages the mk v and ii duelling swords have over the mk iv?

[surreal shore]

GUYS what perks you run on crusher?

flak/maniac?

[lean cairn]

i love anti fun builds

[paper harness]

flak elite slaughterer scullcrusher

[placid fiber]

Yeah! They let Clad reload his bolter!

[stone fern]

YEAH

[light badge]

Smite Chorus on the same time

Agonizing

[paper harness]

chorus users when i shoot them off the map

[surreal shore]

not manaic?

[stone fern]

no

it was chorus into stuns into smite

[lean cairn]

i want to see 4 smykers speedrun sycorax

[placid fiber]

Dorn, we need the chorus zealot version of the smyker one

[stone fern]

i felt very supported for the first time in my life 😭

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1291174300002418688/attachment.gif

[visual compass]

I'm not getting the hate.

[light badge]

Chorus turns off the enemies

Bad

[placid fiber]

Hate? We're amusing ourselves lol

[visual compass]

This is an acceptable answer

[visual compass]

The whole point of the game is to turn the enemies off

[placid fiber]

I mean it's funny when people take builds that make their gameplay less effective

[stone fern]

yeah

[fleet zealot]

Killing>>>supporting

[visual compass]

living>>>>>dying

[lean cairn]

if every map had a karnak twins bell that let you skip to the end and collect all the plasteel automatically would you ring it

[fleet zealot]

No that is vt2 cause everyone basically had skullcrusher and crits

[paper harness]

me when i 7x a chorus user then they get kicked for it

[visual compass]

Until I got bored of fighting them

[placid fiber]

Yeah, I do that... and I don't run chrous lol

[lean cairn]

if you get bored of fighting enemies in this game how is looking at the end screen more fun

if you're bored of fighting in darktide you're bored of darktide

[fleet zealot]

Killing== less damage incoming to you and your team and more Durability

[vague depot]

Why else do you think smykers are so hated

[visual compass]

I'm not gonna be gaslight into saying I'm burnt out of a game I love by a guy named eggfever lmao

[fleet zealot]

Smyker is a twofold problem

[visual compass]

J'exodus

[lean cairn]

you have a fursuit on in your pfp

[vague depot]

It’s not fun watching every enemy be perma stunned

[fleet zealot]

It’s both really op and commonly used by people who suck ass and aren’t even abusing it properly

[placid fiber]

and I have a unicorn pony in mine

[lean cairn]

bunch of freaks in this server

[vague depot]

like vt2 battle engie

[fleet zealot]

Oy

Calm down

[visual compass]

It all becomes clear 🙄

[lean cairn]

im not serious

[heady rapids]

battle engie had a different problem of denying your team thp regen

[placid fiber]

True, the firekeeper's soul is a bit offputting on him

[paper harness]

Chorus users when they do less than 200k damage when everyone else is pushing 600k

[vague depot]

No he just killed everything straight up

It wasn’t thp regen he just denied you the game

[visual compass]

I could beat that I bet

[paper harness]

you crafted weakspot onto a first target dumped knife

...

[heady rapids]

well its the same for shotgun bh but denying you the game it would have to be a top 0.1% engie

[visual compass]

Cuz I wanted it that way yeah

[placid fiber]

wait it was first target dumped?! That's hilarious

[paper harness]

just dump pen....

[visual compass]

If I really wanted to do the most damage to stuff I could very well

[visual compass]

Obviously

[placid fiber]

They didn't want the 1.15x damage bonus of first target

[heady rapids]

they should cut support for darktide and make vermintide 3

[vague depot]

Shotgun bh at least struggles with far away targets and armor since all that has to be handled with his ult or melee

[fleet zealot]

Probably if you focused on dps, but to hit 800k-1.2k+ damage you need a good build and to play well

[vague depot]

Engie does not have such weaknesses

[heady rapids]

hardly tbh, but yeah a bit worse then engie

engie on the other hand doesnt have access to rapier

[placid fiber]

they literally are baiting us, this is hilarious

[stone fern]

oh nein mein first target damage ist 1.38475 not 1.38675

[vague depot]

Engie doesn’t need it

He has a minigun with infinite ammo

[fleet zealot]

But a support crutcher typically hovers inbetween 150k-300k

[placid fiber]

I love it

[fleet zealot]

Clad stop baiting

[vague depot]

All his melee needs to do is make him thp and hammer and shield does that way too well for a back liner

[stone fern]

stop buying ferrets

[heady rapids]

oh im playing coghammer for maximum damage output

[paper harness]

losing what 5% base damage from first target which is more than 10% weakspot damage

[heady rapids]

also that thing is too addictive

[vague depot]

That’s crazy

Coghammer is mad fun though

[heady rapids]

coghammer and trollhammer

[vague depot]

Love how it sorta bounces when you land a heavy

[placid fiber]

my beloved...

[heady rapids]

its so good

[placid fiber]

trollhammer...

[vague depot]

But if you are going full meta scumbag engie it’s hns trollhammer with a bomb build

Everyone will hate you

[heady rapids]

yeah bomb builds are stupid

[vague depot]

Infinite ammo trollhammer

3 regenerating op bombs

Why even bother playing at that point

[placid fiber]

I mean if you're going full meta w/e the 1st bardin career is you can do the free bomb use on carreer skill use

ranger vet?

[heady rapids]

i mainly played before the overhaul patch when engie was uhhh

kinda mid

[vague depot]

Yea ranger vet

[heady rapids]

so i didnt get to actually experience him in all the glory

[placid fiber]

Haven't played vt2 in a hot minute lol

[vague depot]

He’s like the most hated class in the game it’s insane

[heady rapids]

i stopped playing around the time it dropped

[placid fiber]

I was busy getting double throw free morgrims bombs in the wastes lol

[paper harness]

You picked that fight

Speaking of freaks

[heady rapids]

wondering why they're doing the progression update

[placid fiber]

Me

Me

[placid fiber]

Pick me, Dorn!

[heady rapids]

maybe in preparation for something big

[placid fiber]

Pick me!

[paper harness]

@copper hawk hai sgt soft grippers

[placid fiber]

:3

Aw

damn it...

[lean cairn]

vt3 so darktide can finally get content

[misty ravine]

Implying most of Fatshark didn't move to the next project the instant Darktide launched

[vague depot]

The minigun kills all trash and specials, the trollhammer is just a weaker bomb that has infinite ammo, he has 3 regenerating bombs that do no friendly fire damage and also have the properties of both fire and regular bombs, and shield bash can near instantly fill his thp

I fucking hate him

[visual compass]

tbf I did. I'm not one for super uber optimizations unless I'm tryharding and I don't do that much.

[paper harness]

Development started last week

[heady rapids]

real shit

[visual compass]

I went for weakspot damage cuz I wanted to stack as much as I could lol

[vague depot]

Why does trollhammer get conservative shooter

[visual compass]

That and it also cleaves well against hordes

[vague depot]

Why is that a thing

[placid fiber]

I never ran outcast engineer, except when I was getting the chaos wastes okri's challenges

[misty ravine]

Because there's no such thing as a liberal shooter

[placid fiber]

I wanted something fun lol

[paper harness]

Next release in 2027-2028

[desert fractal]

smyker is the palpatine lightning right, i've never actually played psyker in any capacity so idk the terms for anything

[heady rapids]

yues

[vague depot]

Yea it stunlocks everything

[paper harness]

Yes, kill all smykers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/211203478284926976/1293134993211658303/caption.gif

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1291174300002418688/attachment.gif

[lean cairn]

the fact they're doing a ps5 port before fixing xbox is insane

[desert fractal]

i've noticed every time I get a smyker the game gets boring very quickly lol

[paper harness]

Nobody cares about xbots

[heady rapids]

what's up with xbox

[lean cairn]

if they're gonna release it on xbox they should at least make it good

[vague depot]

It’s kinda hard to have fun when everything won’t fight back or move

[placid fiber]

it's a box with a x on it?

[paper harness]

Fatshark

[lean cairn]

runs 5fps on series s and constantly disconnects and crashes for some people

[paper harness]

Stable release

Pick one

[lean cairn]

#enslavefatsharkemployees

[vague depot]

It’s like vermintide give it 5 years and it gets better

[placid fiber]

... was even vt1 stable on release? lol

[paper harness]

No

And the engine was new then

[placid fiber]

There's your answer: none lol

[paper harness]

[heady rapids]

new? it's the same engine from the times of magicka 1

and that was how long ago

[paper harness]

FS developed stingray

[vague depot]

Why was martyrdom caxe struggle with ability cdr

[solar gorge]

might aswell be new it evolved a lot since then

[heady rapids]

holy shit magicka released in 2011

[placid fiber]

2011 for magicka, 2015 for vt1

[heady rapids]

i felt old

for a bit

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/929905868403798076/1141167409672241163/0001-0074.gif

[paper harness]

Bitsquid AB, the company that created the Bitsquid game engine, was founded in 2009 in Stockholm, Sweden, Niklas Frykholm and Tobias Persson, two engineers who had previously worked at game studio Grin, and by the owners of game developer Fatshark.[2][3]

[merry flume]

@hard nexus hehe i fell asleep

[visual compass]

Depends on if you take Shred is my guess

[placid fiber]

I played wc2 when I was a kid lol

warcraft 2 in case you don't know

[paper harness]

Why would you put shred on a combat axe

[vague depot]

I think I took brutal momentum and headtaker

[placid fiber]

bait

[visual compass]

If you wanted to crit with a combat axe ig?

Why you would idk

[heady rapids]

agony

[surreal shore]

thx

[heady rapids]

actual psyop

[placid fiber]

When even the baiter can't figure it out

[vague depot]

Oh I get it now

It’s caxe not the keystone

Whoops

[placid fiber]

It's probably for making blazing viable on the caxe

[paper harness]

Martydom cannot afford cool down deduct

[stone fern]

i cant wait for darktide 2 to be made with unreal engine

[paper harness]

Dude do not put shred on a combat axe

[stone fern]

imagine all the new bugs wed have

[solar gorge]

unreal is overrrated

[lean cairn]

they dont have unreal 4 yet in sweden though

[stone fern]

imagine all the PROBLEMS we can have from having devs learn a new engine

[lean cairn]

they're still on 3

[heady rapids]

shred is good on caxes only if you spell tactical with a c

[surreal shore]

guys is deadly accurate and surgical not good on

[placid fiber]

Aww... you ruined my new chorus blazing piety build idea... that ran loner...

[surreal shore]

bolt pistol?

[stone fern]

bruh its gonna be so amazing

[paper harness]

You do not have the points to spend to reach iod if going Martydom

[stone fern]

darktide 2 is gonna be worse than darktide 1 on release

[heady rapids]

everyone is going on ue5 and it might be a problem

well

not everyone

[paper harness]

Because you have to spend most of them on defense IJ in the upper tree

[heady rapids]

but a lot of studios are dropping their engines in favor of ue5

[vague depot]

I’m not doing that

[lean cairn]

in like 5 years it'll eclipse darktide 1 and have most of the original maps

not that anyone cares about that

[vague depot]

Idk how to word my thoughts rn

[solar gorge]

can't wait for darktide 2 to have the beautiful and very good ue5 grass

[placid fiber]

You're so mentally fucked up that you can't figure it out

[heady rapids]

did you just reference payday 3

[placid fiber]

Been there

[lean cairn]

no i meant vermintide 2

[vague depot]

I asked for a comparison between ij and martyrdom caxe and clad told me that martyrdom caxe struggles with cdr

[surreal shore]

im suprised no one runs dxeadly accurateo n bolt pistol

[vague depot]

I thought it was because of martyrdom but it was just that caxe isn’t really a crit weapon

[surreal shore]

that shit is so op on any gun its on usually

[placid fiber]

marty is mostly for dps

[paper harness]

I was a playtester for pd2 and pd3

Never again

[heady rapids]

did they force you to playtest pd3

[placid fiber]

IJ is safer

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/suicide-jump-pink-pantern-gif-14045004

[heady rapids]

i played the closed beta

it was uhh

[paper harness]

They stopped listening 3 weeks into development

[heady rapids]

idk if im allowed to saying stuff i wanna say about it on this server

[visual compass]

What talents defensive talents do you prefer for Martyrdom?

[heady rapids]

the only thing that felt good was the general combat

[solar gorge]

you can say it's dogshit, that word is allowed

[heady rapids]

i was actually looking into the game after they switched up all the people behind gameplay design

[placid fiber]

I mean I can give you a defensive marty build, since it allows 172 toughness lol

[heady rapids]

they put the funny guy in charge instead

their cm what was his name

[merry flume]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/837748521636855888/1201193529821626480/IMG_3509.gif

[visual compass]

I just want to know what you guys run to see if it might be something I'd try

I really only ever take the 50% toughness dmg reduction on Crit and 15% toughness on dodge

[placid fiber]

Defensive marty

[fleet zealot]

Dt has the most people working on it

[stone fern]

no second wind

unplayable

[vague depot]

How’s this

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[pliant palm]

wouldn't you have sighed a NDA tho

[placid fiber]

stronger, overall, probably

[stone fern]

switch good balance to twbs and its perfect

[paper harness]

On content development, yes

[pliant palm]

a NDA to prevent you from saying this

[heady rapids]

almir!!! yeah so i think payday 3 might actually become playable in a couple years

[paper harness]

Nope

[vague depot]

Do I really need twbs none of my attacks are really slow

[paper harness]

[stone fern]

wait

axe?

if axe nah

[paper harness]

Just to protect content release

[visual compass]

What weapon is this with btw? Looking at this, this would be something I'd run TH with.

[vague depot]

I thought that was for stuff that had activation specials