zealot-class

[south grove]

I am a victim

[misty nova]

Heck yeah

• 2 stamina
  Block efficiency
  Dclaw time

Once my cable problem is solved

[grizzled aspen]

I do wonder, who has more effective stamina for blocking, zealout or psyker with KD?

[south grove]

Dorn would tear me apart alive

[paper harness]

Tintin when he doesn’t learn how to play

[misty nova]

Torn by Dorn?
Just parry

[south grove]

I'm working on it

[frosty herald]

Whis

Im fucking tweaking

[sullen forge]

Live TinTin getting his brains blown out by a sniper reaction

[misty wraith]

laser pointer lmao

[paper harness]

Ds5 mobility a little overtuned

I kept looping them

A little out of coherency

[south grove]

I spawned in yesterday with 6 snipers locked in on my head

[paper harness]

[misty wraith]

doesnt DS have same mobility as knife

[south grove]

I'm never doing sniper modifier maelstrom again

[wild isle]

real

[spice flame]

ayo did brunter drop me a 10/10? defence is dump stat right?

[plush estuary]

just dodge

[opal star]

it fucks me up that ADSing basically removes the cleave from shotguns because I always ADS out of habit

also average hi-intensity sniper gauntlet

https://tenor.com/view/lasers-concert-lights-gif-5102526

[drifting wolf]

i haven't fought one of those, how are they

is it just the vermintide equivalent of a bulwark

[pearl sparrow]

what are som good blessings for the shotgun?

[opal star]

depends on the shotgun
zarona/kantrael - scattershot + manstopper
agripinaa - full bore + no respite

well, actually, you can use either combination of blessings on any shotgun but those are my recommendations

[pearl sparrow]

thanks

[spice flame]

yes

[misty nova]

Same
Then I started using the Agripina

[spice flame]

it's horrible

[opal star]

kinda
their shields arent fucking massive though

their shields will still stop your attacks in their tracks tho

[drifting wolf]

before and after gym

[frosty herald]

Norsca war elephant in vt2 when

[opal star]

dreg gunner in vt2

[drifting wolf]

ratling gunner

[misty nova]

My honest shield reaction

[stone fern]

but reddit told me i need to pick chorus and stand in the same place chanting

[copper hawk]

Except shielded enemies in vt2 stagger faster

And dont have weird hitboxes

[opal star]

the trapper right outside the chorus radius:

https://tenor.com/view/2017x-2017x-rizz-hit-single-hit-single-sonic2017x-rizz-licking-lips-gif-11652327508459589829

[copper hawk]

And have weapons that strike around shields

[stone fern]

give bulwarks stamina bars NOW

NOT TOMORROW TODAYYY

[opal star]

I love dt bulwarks
I love breaking their blocks only for my revved eviscerator heavy to catch on the shield anyway

totally doesn't make me want to jump into Manufactorum HL-17-36

[drifting wolf]

how it feels catching that guy's revved eviscerator on my shield

https://tenor.com/view/hotdiggedydemon-stan-twitter-angel-wings-meme-gif-7651570284153077208

[opal star]

frightak I'm going to shoot your shield with 2196894013931 agripinaa shotgun slugs

[drifting wolf]

you cannot kill me in a way that matters

[opal star]

That's okay

[south grove]

Or you can use plasma for the pure purpose of dealing 3 damage through shield

[opal star]

3 whole damage ⁉️

[misty nova]

Should've eviscerated the shield first

Evis15 still winning

🗣️

[hearty nebula]

im so pissed

[misty nova]

Yeah
Plasma doesn't go through shield anymore

[copper hawk]

MREs r see through now

Apparently

[misty nova]

Unless charged shots
For a whopping 500 damage

[knotty roost]

For those who watched the dev stream, what's the word on the immolation blitz thing

[opal star]

fellow mk15 enjoyer

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[knotty roost]

fire grenade rework or are we about to be self-immolating psychopaths

[grizzled aspen]

I see yall were talking about shielded chaos warriors in vt2.

Actually a fun enemy.

[opal star]

self immolating what now

[grizzled aspen]

I dont want to kms fighting them.

[opal star]

Are grenades about to be doing self damage

[misty nova]

Uh I think they were referring to the penance

[opal star]

oh thank fuck

[misty nova]

How apparently the tracking for it is borked or something

Idk

[knotty roost]

tragedy, a subreddit post got me all excited

[misty nova]

I dunno
Didn't accompany the stream

Even though it probably stayed on the topic of level design

(or not)

[ebon urchin]

Any blessing recommendations on the crucis besides thrust?

[misty nova]

Headtaker or Slaughterer

[grizzled aspen]

Headtaker better.

You can bonk a boss and get lots of free damage to your thrust special heavy.

[dense field]

mk5 has better mobility IIRC

oh nvm it was an old convo

[misty nova]

Discord moment

[junior helm]

Yep

[south grove]

I spawned into it

I can dodge snipers pretty reliably now

[spice flame]

I didn’t buy it and now it is lost 😞

[south grove]

it's so easy to get 60 80 80 80 80 weapons now

should only take 3-15 pulls at brunt

[blissful frigate]

The real gold is a 58 80 80 80 80

[shy river]

60% DMG weapons💪💪💪

[spice flame]

Is there any point where you want the dump to be higher than 60?

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1294784277913010217/attachment.gif

[south grove]

afaik plasma gun's the only one

[quasi copper]

Fresh meat here, but that topic is pretty interesting as the thought has crossed my mind before, what's the break point?

That's me assuming there's a break point for a stat, what's the reason rather?

[south grove]

you want 69% thermal resistance for maximum magdump salvo and a 71% charge rate for faster charge ups

[quasi copper]

Ah I see, never used to gun but that makes sense

just enough for a magdump but not more

[south grove]

I reccomend talking to path in vet chat, he's the guy who helped me sort my plasma out

[quasi copper]

the one class I don't really play but the topic is interesting none the less 😄

fair though

[drifting wolf]

reject blue shooter return to pistol grenade launcher

[untold lily]

By the benificent god emperor, a dank roll

[south grove]

try double barrel weapon specialist

it's so fun

[quasi copper]

to be fair I have been leveling him slowly lately, roughly 25 or something now, will get there soon

[south grove]

you get an auto reload on shotgun every melee kill

[untold lily]

Cuter with a bolter, though.

[south grove]

and with man-stopper you can clear hallways with a single shot

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

chain sword/axe + double barrel

[shy river]

kino

[vague depot]

I was thinking about running that

Once I finished mastering the braced autogun

[paper harness]

Yes

However

Not really worth it

I’ll eventually get a list of all the perfect dumps if path doesn’t beat me to it

[distant lagoon]

Piety or Martyrdom for DS?

[gleaming furnace]

I’d say piety

[hard nexus]

is it regarding breakpoints?

where after a certain point damage is wasted

[paper harness]

yeah

if there is no bps to hit

damage is a wasted stat

[hard nexus]

fair

that feels super super build specific

and like more effort than it could
possibly be worth

[distant lagoon]

IS there any point in having Savage sweep over Wrath?

[hard nexus]

savage sweep activates faster

they’re both fine

but savage sweep is faster and more accessible if a weapon has even one high-ish cleave attack

wrath is better on weapons like the chain sword, with a lower innate cleave

but a faster attack speed

whereas something like the mk3 evis, h1 has very high cleave

and is very easy to activate

[untold lily]

Hm, flamer does not seem that good

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-cat-upset-annoyed-perturbed-gif-2678264647403754706

[plush estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-fish-this-is-bait-gif-11212449

[rotund shoal]

what a distinguished gentleman

[south grove]

is keystoneless vet still viable

I forgot

[visual stream]

Viable, I'm sure

[plush estuary]

yes

vet doesnt need a keystone

[visual stream]

Worth? Probably on very specific builds

[plush estuary]

only class that doesnt need keystones

[paper harness]

just run wep specialist

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1293615088523280416/attachment.gif

[paper harness]

lmao

[visual stream]

More often than not, at least focus target is better than nothing

[south grove]

wanna try something new today

I usually do wep specialist

sometimes do redirect fire with focus target

[hard nexus]

yeah, i run it on my helbore build

[visual stream]

What exactly is helbore good at btw

[south grove]

helbore my belvoed

[hard nexus]

anti elite

[south grove]

ogryn and boss racism

[hard nexus]

and anti specials

[copper hawk]

glubs

[hard nexus]

yah this

less good against crushers

but good against everything else

[visual stream]

It's good against ogryns and bosses??

[copper hawk]

hi meow

[hard nexus]

hewwo

[hard nexus]

yah very

whichever helbore is the middle between fast and slow

i don’t know what the names are now

is really good

[visual stream]

Maybe I should try building one for a sniper keystone/exe build

[hard nexus]

do it keystoneless

i can give u a build

that i ysrd

use

[visual stream]

Plz and thx 🙏

[hard nexus]

kk gimme a couple

[visual stream]

Always looked at helbore with curiosity but only tried once when I made a shitty stealth build for twins xd

[stone fern]

its ok path has to do 2845 more builds with one talent changed

[visual stream]

Oo a sneak helbore sounds fun for pubs actually

[stone fern]

does anyone have the exact range on anointed by blood?

[south grove]

gimme gimme

[stone fern]

is it also 15m?

[south grove]

first time clutching in HISTG damnation only to fail a second clutch

fuck

[south grove]

oh and I forgot

they make ragers a nuisance

[hard nexus]

honestly idk how well this is build, if someone like path comes along i’m sure they’ll correct it

but it works fine enough

but

this has one point remaining

actually

hold on

[south grove]

mk1?

curious on why mk 1

I see mk 2 and 3 more often

mk 2 for faster firerate and mk 3 for absolute racism

[weak sail]

Should I dump penetration or mobility on a stealth bleed knife build running revolver?

[south grove]

always mobility

[rotund shoal]

u should explode

[hard nexus]

one point remaining,

[south grove]

also yea

stealth is not cool

[hard nexus]

point can go into whatever you want

[hard nexus]

carapace damage

[south grove]

knive and revolver is a bad combo

[weak sail]

Chill guys I don't even play Zealot, just trying to figure out builds

[rotund shoal]

knife and revolver is a great combo

[south grove]

explode

[rotund shoal]

dont know what ure talking bout tin

[south grove]

single target damage

[hard nexus]

weight of fire means you shoot fast enough anyway, so might as well get the extra damage from the mk1

[south grove]

trueee

[copper hawk]

lmfao

[south grove]

but I like mk2 more

[copper hawk]

my bluetooth sound so bad thru my laptop

[south grove]

spam fire

[hard nexus]

mobility, penetration dump can be negated with uncanny strike though

[weak sail]

Might not run uncanny on this one.

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1294784277913010217/attachment.gif

[rotund shoal]

what do you mean by bleed knife

theres only 1-2 bleed knife builds that make any sense

[south grove]

bleed on crit + mercy killer?

[paper harness]

bleed without uncanny

wild

[weak sail]

Mercy/Flesh Tearer

[rotund shoal]

thats a vet build

[paper harness]

tanner build lmao

[south grove]

bleed is bad without uncanny

vets run serrated blade + uncanny/mercy

this isn't even a vet build

[distant lagoon]

you know what

Tigrus evi is pretty amazing with martyrdom

you basically one-shot with lights any non-elites

and one-shot any elites except ogryns with heavies

[south grove]

realised I run something similar

[fleet zealot]

go flesh uncanny so your bleed deals real damage to targets that actually live long enough for it to matter

[south grove]

I'm just obsessed with trench fighter drill tho

[distant lagoon]

I meant 15

I thought 3 was way better before than 15

now i think the opposite

[rotund shoal]

just dont run bleed knife

bleed is trash for anything but hordes

its just less dmg than anything else

no reason to ever pick

[fleet zealot]

bleed is just trash but people want to force bleed

i simply can't repeat don't use bleed over and over and over

people crave dots

[south grove]

I love vet

free bleed

[hard nexus]

number 1 bleed hate over here

[distant lagoon]

So what is opinion on evis?

[hard nexus]

about what

it’s good

[distant lagoon]

15 vs 3

[hard nexus]

3 imo

15 is really good

[distant lagoon]

Why?

also same question about chaxes

[fleet zealot]

3 can be better

but it's a lot more work

[hard nexus]

but i find i get more value from 3s horde clear over 15s single target

[fleet zealot]

mk15 is just straightforward and easy

[inner cargo]

Mk15 is easy fr

Lights for horde

Heavy for single target

Vermintide 2 executioner sword fr

[hard nexus]

mk15 is just so boring

[inner cargo]

Nuh uh

[distant lagoon]

elaborate

[hard nexus]

crit build for crit CDR for chastise to reach crusher almost one shot, either push attack light, or heavy light light push attack light light heavy for hordes

[paper harness]

3 is for people who can process movesets

[hard nexus]

this is true

[misty nova]

Can't hear you over the grating sound of clashing metal and loud engines (my ears hurt)

[hard nexus]

mk15 is fun for civis for bloodthirsty crusher one shots

that’s it imo

[hard nexus]

CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG

MAKE AN HEIR

MAKE AN HEIR

[misty nova]

[paper harness]

and brains

[fleet zealot]

i need to start a false flag event

[paper harness]

darktide players when a weapon needs more than light or heavy spam

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[fleet zealot]

uhh recommending harder variants is ableism

[hard nexus]

LOL

[inner cargo]

STOP

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/gibberish-discord-meme-get-this-man-a-shield-wakanda-gif-1239357558790190300

[paper harness]

oh well

[rotund shoal]

FUN FUN FUN

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/tell-me-how-the-grass-tastes-little-man-gif-22678489

[south grove]

common john L

[paper harness]

keep swinging

lemme guess you also use a push attack macro like someone else around here

[fleet zealot]

taxe without keep swinging on toggle is just speed running carpal tunnel+ arthritis in the hands

[south grove]

why do people even run macros

[rotund shoal]

i have keep swinging installed but i dont use it cuz i cant aim as well

and no push macro

[south grove]

other than carpal tunnels

[rotund shoal]

who pissed in your cereal dorn

[paper harness]

you did

[south grove]

Rinda Karnak

[rotund shoal]

why would you even macro push attack on taxe

[paper harness]

disgusting freak

[south grove]

should I do highlight for teammate or highlight ogryns on Exe's stance

first time running it in months

[paper harness]

someone uploaded a solo histg on mk6 knife and was push attacking the air a lot

ogryns

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-smoking-jadeyanh-gif-13814794647460690890

[rotund shoal]

love how in dorns world ppl who solo histg are noobs as well

[hard nexus]

PA macro doesn’t matter !!!

[rotund shoal]

oh to have 4k hours in dt

[vague depot]

i have light symptoms of carpal tunnel

[fleet zealot]

once again asking

[hard nexus]

macro only matters if it’s going past human capability

[paper harness]

if you cannot push attack

[fleet zealot]

does close damage affect frag nades

[south grove]

I HAVE carpal tunnels

[vague depot]

gap

[fleet zealot]

i will also ask vet chat

but they are fucking stupid

[rotund shoal]

i dont get push attack macro though what is there to macro

[paper harness]

do not push atrtack

[rotund shoal]

you just hold your mouse button down

[vague depot]

push attack macro sounds silly

[visual stream]

Thank you buddy 🙏

[vague depot]

why do you need to do it that much

[hard nexus]

use the second one i sent

[fleet zealot]

staff quell lmb macro users are scum

[hard nexus]

not that first one

[paper harness]

when have I said this

[hard nexus]

knife uses PA for fast single target

[rotund shoal]

its the implication

[vague depot]

fair enough

[remote lark]

can someone drop a crusher build

i wanna try it

[paper harness]

more shade about the macro than anything else

[paper harness]

Standard IJ build

[remote lark]

okk

[south grove]

is quick quell macro ever fixable?

[paper harness]

Standard Marty build

[remote lark]

perk/blessings

[paper harness]

hard delaY

[south grove]

met another quell cancel pskyer

[visual stream]

This one?

[paper harness]

flak elite flak unyielding

slaughterer skullcrusher

[remote lark]

literally the first fucking roll

im so good

[hard nexus]

yarp

[vague depot]

damn

[visual stream]

Suhweet

[paper harness]

Yam 2.0 over here

[visual stream]

Might make a stealth variation of that build

After trying exe

[hard nexus]

i have played with 2

[ornate bone]

purchased approved

[hard nexus]

one in pubs

one in a true duo

aids both times

quell cancel macro should be bannable

actually not that far

warned then banned

[south grove]

can they even fix it

[hard nexus]

push attack, keep swinging,

not bannable

[paper harness]

yes

delay

[hard nexus]

because they’re doable by human beings !!!!

[paper harness]

just delay output

simple

[south grove]

will they do it tho

[paper harness]

they should

[hard nexus]

who knows

i hope so

[rotund shoal]

I prefer Yap

[south grove]

who is yam btw

[paper harness]

are you going to ping me with "I hope you get humbled" xd

[untold lily]

?

[remote lark]

he gambled

sadgryn

[untold lily]

?

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-cat-upset-annoyed-perturbed-gif-2678264647403754706

[south grove]

bait used to be believable

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1291174300002418688/attachment.gif

[misty mason]

I love that reddit is arguing about whether gunner resist is good

[median steeple]

yeah👍

[untold lily]

?

[rotund shoal]

not b4 i get the shirtless mod

Hey Elite Gamer

Can you help an ELite Gamer out??

[untold lily]

Meh, never mind, past midnight. Gonna sleep and discard the flamer tomorrow

[sullen forge]

I hope you get humbled……….. smh

[inner cargo]

Ain't no way

[remote lark]

well something like 33 sacrificed green crushers later

i have a usable stick

[obsidian prairie]

Flamer is extremely strong so people think you saying it’s bad is bait

[misty mason]

TBF its less of an argument and more of a "Is it actually good?"

With most people saying yeh and some being like "I dun think that extra .2 seconds of toughness you save is significant"

[paper harness]

people when they are wrong

[misty mason]

Yeah I can see an argument for 2 vs 3

[paper harness]

I recommend 3

[misty mason]

But considering how often you eat gunner shots without a good ability to avoid it yeah

Yeah I mean I run 3

[paper harness]

48% is massive

[fleet zealot]

i run2

[misty mason]

But I can see an argument for 2

[fleet zealot]

i don't like icky Diminishing returns

[misty mason]

Maybe one sniper resist or something

[hard nexus]

why is it red

[rotund shoal]

vt2

[obsidian prairie]

Mods

[hard nexus]

ohg

[sullen forge]

I’d argue against unless you’re playing Sniper Gauntlet

[obsidian prairie]

Red weapon nostalgia

[rotund shoal]

i find that people when making build in any game tend to focus more on which things go well with each other rather than the specific benefits of each

[misty mason]

This is actually useful tho

[rotund shoal]

which is a fallacy

[hard nexus]

same here, i get hit by snipers so rarely i feel sniper resist to be mostly irrelevant

[south grove]

where's the nade copypasta

[remote lark]

found a neat mod that makes perfect weapons red

[sullen forge]

Reminding me to update my mods when I’m home

[south grove]

ughhhhhghghghhhhhh

can't find it anymore

[paper harness]

a little cringe

[rotund shoal]

it doesnt matter if theres diminishing returns to something if that something is more important than something else that scales well

[hard nexus]

what is this

[misty mason]

So going from one to two has the biggest difference

time to break toughness when getting lit up at point blank

[remote lark]

dorn thinks red is cringe

[misty mason]

By a gunner

[south grove]

video of gunner resist - toughness broken

[hard nexus]

ohg

[distant lagoon]

I do like crit builds... So how does it work?

[paper harness]

red weapons when they aren't real red weapons

[remote lark]

it helps me keep my inventory a little more asily sorted

[paper harness]

a tad cringe yes

[remote lark]

eat glass

[distant lagoon]

I assumed that it does not benefit much from crits

[remote lark]

should i take punishment on skullcrusher

or does it not need

[distant lagoon]

So what is opinions on chaxes?

[paper harness]

just uhh organise your inventory 4head

[fleet zealot]

huh uh except 1x sniper resist is a massive BP

[hard nexus]

shred perfect strike flak elites, blazing piety build

[paper harness]

Punishment is a wasted point

on crusher

[rotund shoal]

i meant in general

[misty mason]

It does show the diminishing return is very small going from 2 to 3

[rotund shoal]

i also take 2 gunner res

[fleet zealot]

mucho texto

[distant lagoon]

I just had this with heavy cxhaxe

[misty mason]

.38 seconds going 1-2 .35 seconds going 2-3

[distant lagoon]

and it is not even optimal

[hard nexus]

and crits are mainly for cdr for chastise attack speed and rev rending

[south grove]

• not optimal
• open box, basically optimal

one off penetration and one tier off headtaker isn't that bad

I think

idk I might not think

[paper harness]

@remote lark post build

[rotund shoal]

taxe 2 push attack staggers ragers out of windmill

[paper harness]

special also does

[remote lark]

after match

[rotund shoal]

i rebound my special to keep swinging

https://tenor.com/view/burn-gif-20530397

[paper harness]

so shred headtaker

?

[distant lagoon]

what about bloodthirsty?

al;so why not +5% crit perk?

[vernal terrace]

5 knives, dorns becoming british

[distant lagoon]

what

so which chaxe is better

[south grove]

chaxe 12 is good for anti armour, chaxe 4 is more general purpose

I like using chaxe 12 for crusher racism

[drifting wolf]

12 has simpler moveset and better drip

[hard nexus]

only use for mk15, its bad on the mk3

[south grove]

I agree with the drip part but I like chaxe 4 better

[hard nexus]

because that perk sucks, 5% crit chance is very little compared to a damage perk

also because elites helps you reach a crusher one shot with chastise rev

[distant lagoon]

Wityh thrust, right?

[distant lagoon]

but 3 specials cleave through horde?

[south grove]

yea

[drifting wolf]

thrust headtaker for crusher racism

[south grove]

thrust

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1296385100837294080/attachment.gif

[distant lagoon]

I was a biiig lower of chaxe 4

[hard nexus]

yes, but h1 sucks for horde, as the cleave damage distribution is terrible

[high blade]

quick question about backstabs, if I hit them in the back of the head does that count? going for a penance

[distant lagoon]

And when thrust was bugged and doinbg 4x more damage than it should it was so funny

[hard nexus]

it’s a .33 multiplier from first to second target iirc

might be different on rev but

it doesn’t really matter

h1 is really bad for hordes, revved or not

[south grove]

180 degrees of their back yea

pretty generous

like the old bulwark hitbox

[distant lagoon]

hm, i was spamming h1 l1 in hordes

[modern lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1289731767254781962/1726208110518117.gif?ex=66f9e3cf&is=66f8924f&hm=ca5535cd13244933198bf30e86af78f242cce53d55d08cdebd3edc31328f746a&

[high blade]

sweet, got a sick hoodie to get.

[hard nexus]

h1 comes out faster when it’s the beginning of a combo, in the middle of a combo it comes out much slower

[distant lagoon]

So what should i use in hordes?

[paper harness]

will delete but man

funny

[hard nexus]

PA light, or heavy light light PA light light repeat

why are you so evil

this is a dorn ego moment

[plush estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1291174300002418688/attachment.gif

[copper hawk]

Grub

[mental plume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055683073506816020/1284224702201593929/pewpew.gif

[paper harness]

smyker

[hard nexus]

oh fair

[hard nexus]

i am the anti-grub

like the antichrist but for this server

[copper hawk]

Nop

U have ur own grub,

Grubz

[copper hawk]

Tintin para aaaaaand

John

Those r ur grubs

Oh and jacket

Nyaaaahahahaha.,,

It ok 2 be a grub

[hard nexus]

oh so i’m a grublord

[south grove]

wasn't jacket the one who joined the server and immediately asked for breakpoints with damage

[copper hawk]

Erm

Grublady*

Siiigh..

[visual stream]

Thunder hammer keeps unsparking as soon as I vault something

[hard nexus]

this is horrific

[hard nexus]

true

[copper hawk]

Idk

She's pawesome

We stan jacket

[visual stream]

This recent patch fucked hammer activation for some reason

In many ways

[copper hawk]

[hard nexus]

she was a tannerite initially

but she’s since been educated

she got super defensive back then but

she’s good now

[hard nexus]

gay cats

lesbian cats

[south grove]

reeducation

[ebon urchin]

Is thrust/skullcrusher decent on the Crusher?

[hard nexus]

she was fixed

[hard nexus]

slaughterer skullcrusher is better

thrust isn’t that good

[rocky nacelle]

don’t project what you are onto me

[fleet zealot]

nah thrust or skullcrusher+slaught

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1294784277913010217/attachment.gif

[hard nexus]

LOL @copper hawk

[remote lark]

with lethal prox bolt pistol

@paper harness

[drifting wolf]

how it feels to blow shit up

[hard nexus]

what weapon is this

crusher?

get rid of inebriates poise for purge the unclean

[remote lark]

yeah

[paper harness]

Why no purge

[remote lark]

[hard nexus]

either inebriates poise or good balance for purge the unclean

[hard nexus]

wha

@stone fern i saw that.

[stone fern]

anyone know the range on anointed

i missclicked ok?????????

[hard nexus]

12.5 meters

[stone fern]

how does the scalling work?

[hard nexus]

no idea

[stone fern]

for max right?

[hard nexus]

for minimum i believe

if it’s working off of close damage calculations

[remote lark]

am i the only one tho thinks 20% unyielding is somewhat overrated
theres only a few bosses each round and i can't even remember the last time i've died to one
(excluding the i think 3veg modifier in maelstroms)

[stone fern]

🤔 okie

ill test it tomorrow then

[remote lark]

isn't reaper the only unyielding regular enemy

[plush estuary]

its ogryns

[paper harness]

You are, yes

[hard nexus]

inebriates poise and good balance are also not really that good

[hard nexus]

reaper, bulwarks, bosses

[rotund shoal]

do u mean retribution

[remote lark]

me when i share an opinion the hive mind disagrees with

reply reply reply reply

[rotund shoal]

how do u stack ij without poise

[stone fern]

boss damage good

[rotund shoal]

at least ive tried and i cant stack 15 ij stacks without poise

[stone fern]

theres 1-3 each mission

[hard nexus]

wait am i wrong again

[ebon urchin]

Is opportunist good on crusher?

[hard nexus]

whatever the stacks give toughness is

[rotund shoal]

poise = stacks on dodge
retribution = toughness on ij proc

[hard nexus]

is not that good

[hard nexus]

no

[ebon urchin]

Ty

[hard nexus]

ok retribitors stance, @remote lark , get rid of

for purge

[rotund shoal]

i like it retribution but u cant rlly pick it without giving up unyielding dmg or 2nd fotf charge

[hard nexus]

yeah

[paper harness]

20% free damage is huge

[remote lark]

ok

i forgot about bulwarks anyway

:B

[ebon urchin]

Anyone got a decent build with Beacon of Purity? I'm doing the penance.

[rotund shoal]

normal IJ build and take the point tax

its the worst tree IMO

[ebon urchin]

Brutal

[paper harness]

The last time you posted something like this was not taking shred rampage on dclaw

[hard nexus]

wdym hammerblow skullcrusher is the best on the dclaw

[remote lark]

dorn when i try to understand why things are good instead of just blindly believing him

[hard nexus]

with stam and block eff

[distant lagoon]

So what perfect strike even serves?

[hard nexus]

honestly sometimes i understand it though, some people keep asking questions about a topic n it’s just “please just TRUST ME”

[rotund shoal]

quick sketch @ebon urchin

[hard nexus]

cleave through basically everything

[rotund shoal]

ure really lacking toughness regen options though

might be worth dropping twbs

[ebon urchin]

Danky

[placid fiber]

Ah yes... the stamina and block efficiency thammer... from the world of tomorrow hell*

[hard nexus]

perfect strike will let you basically never run out of cleave

[hard nexus]

that’s fine, second wind is all you need

[distant lagoon]

So it works same as brutal strike?

[hard nexus]

no

[rotund shoal]

no enduring faith or good balance though

so that 15% toughness doesnt go as far

[distant lagoon]

You always have the best toughness regen option

[paper harness]

Perhaps I know a little bit about weapons and optimal blessings

[rotund shoal]

thats why im saying

[pale spindle]

Is Zealot chat imploding again?

[distant lagoon]

that is never being hit in the first place

[placid fiber]

Question: Are deathblow and bromentum basically the same thing? <.<

[hard nexus]

perfect strike ignores armor increase to hitmass, so you’ll cleave basically everything, including carapace

[remote lark]

perhaps i seek to 'know' as well instead of just follow you like a mindless cretin

[hard nexus]

he just wants to understand why something is good though

i’m mindless

[remote lark]

we know

[hard nexus]

this is me if u even care

[distant lagoon]

But does it increase cleave on horde?

[placid fiber]

I mean... Dorn's knife build works for me and I don't know how to knife lol

[remote lark]

mindless cretin

[hard nexus]

probably, it’s enough to the point i don’t run out of cleave in a horde on a crit

[remote lark]

tell me why the knife build works

[hard nexus]

even on mixed hordes

[rotund shoal]

cant improve if u dont understand why you do what you do

[distant lagoon]

what is the build?

[placid fiber]

It lets me deal with hordes better, deal with crushers easily, and in general take care of any threat

[pale spindle]

I mean I trust Dorn to some level simply because he plays Zealot like a crackadict every single day 🧍

[remote lark]

you're lacking context it was a rhetorical question

dorn wants me to just accept everything he says with 0 argument

[rocky nacelle]

*orn is a noob

[remote lark]

i prefer poking at his statements until i understand it completely

[distant lagoon]

You mean no-life nerd that needs tobe sentenced to touch grass?

[hard nexus]

ok tell us how you really feel

[pale spindle]

Idk what they do in their spare time

[distant lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6C6wj735kg

[placid fiber]

Dude, come on... no one deserves that sentence...

That's too harsh, man...

[rotund shoal]

I touched grass yesterday

[distant lagoon]

Sacrifices must be made

[rotund shoal]

(did groceries)

Was horrible

[placid fiber]

Exactly

[rotund shoal]

jk I had old people tell me good morning

was nice

i wonder if that means im growing older

[placid fiber]

I mean I was joking about touching grass being bad as well lol

[pale spindle]

Nah the people who need to touch grass are the people who spend all day on Kiwi Farms

[placid fiber]

I can literally walk outside and touch some and come back in probably 20 seconds lol

[pale spindle]

Literally glued to their computer and live in a different reality

[rotund shoal]

Honestly i kind of feel like joining animal pfp club

I do like the no pfp look

But i always enjoy talking to people with animal pfps

it makes me feel like im actualy talking to the animal

Like I imagine frog as actually that frog

[pale spindle]

Like me? 😊

[rotund shoal]

and Orcka as this specific orca

[placid fiber]

What about the ones who die on low intensity sedition?

with level 30 characters

[drifting wolf]

orcka has the blood of innocent great whites and seals on their hands

also baby whales

[placid fiber]

without getting disabled/barreled

[pale spindle]

Yes and it was tasty 😎

[rotund shoal]

Ah this strategy

Never works

For long

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/поч-пон-мем-кашалот-понятно-gif-12465154503404655709

[faint vapor]

got to be positive about things c:

[drifting wolf]

anti-orca contraption

[placid fiber]

Also I forgot there was a menu of commands you could open up... wait how do you pull that up? I messed up on my keyboard and it just popped up

[faint vapor]

it'll always work until it doesn't :D

[distant lagoon]

FURRY ALERT

[pale spindle]

Nah we eat the babies too

[distant lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer-heresy-gif-13154719

[rotund shoal]

manlet alert

[placid fiber]

I did scroll to the bottom and found these lol

[drifting wolf]

you eat the babies you run away from the bulls

[distant lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/dwarf-chad-chad-dwarf-gif-27635881

[vague depot]

what should i be using each version of the combat shotgun for

[pale spindle]

Skill diff

[rotund shoal]

some of them taste better

[vague depot]

from what i can remember one version has a stagger shot and another has dragonsbreath but idk about the 3rd

[faint vapor]

fan spread shot

[drifting wolf]

you are the high level player spawn killing noobs who immediately bails when a max level chadcalot enters the fray

[fleet zealot]

dude aggros dh

leave macros

doesn't rejoin either

[faint vapor]

yeah because I'm a winner baby 😎

[pale spindle]

If they are such Chads, why couldn't they protect the Lil uns?

[median steeple]

what the fuck is new discord notfication sound

this sucks

[rocky nacelle]

turned off every single discord sound forever ago

couldnt tell ya

[drifting wolf]

bulls are mostly solitary i think

[rotund shoal]

imagine not switching discord notif sound to grindr notfic

n00b

[merry flume]

@rocky nacelle https://x.com/3arthsGuardian/status/1847137676668948917

Dendel (@3arthsGuardian) on X

Watching the Namek Saga and Frieza shoots Dende

Twitter · Oct 18, 2024, 4:48 AM

[fleet zealot]

notfic

[placid fiber]

Oh I figured it out, it's ctrl + the / key lol

[rocky nacelle]

racism gone too far

[pale spindle]

Also Orcas CAN hunt bulls, the problem is that the adults can just dive to run away if things get bad

[fleet zealot]

imagine if frieza saw ssj4

[rocky nacelle]

he wouldnt care hes black stronger now

[rotund shoal]

i used to run a site about animal intelligence facts

and orcas were my #1 topic

[placid fiber]

I pressed both of these before I found the right keys lol

[rotund shoal]

imo they are some of the most intelligent animals

if not the most

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/killed-my-grandma-okay-trolls-gif-20630367

orcas killed my grandma

[rocky nacelle]

noobs killed my grandma

[rotund shoal]

schizoposting animal facts was my actual hobby

[vague depot]

theres a new notif sound?

hit me with it rq

[rotund shoal]

NOOB

[rotund shoal]

NOOB

[fleet zealot]

cause some randoms killed 20 minutes of my birthday

[vague depot]

i cant hear it

tf

[nimble fiber]

my grandma killed noobs

[pale spindle]

Orcas only can dive to about 1000 ft

Sperm Whales can dive 10k ft

[rotund shoal]

wait hit me with it i havent heard it either

[paper harness]

I’ll explain it

[vague depot]

one more time

[placid fiber]

Man... now that I'm awake again I want to go find the 2 new hades 2 pets :/

[median steeple]

update your discord

[pale spindle]

So yeah, sperm whales can just dip 🏃🏻‍♂️

[median steeple]

gwah

[acoustic dune]

ze frank torture me to gain certain knowledge

[vague depot]

it sounds the same

[paper harness]

Power is the single most optimal blessing outside of brutal momentum

Always

[remote lark]

what are you talking about

i didn't ask about power

[acoustic dune]

ey ey zealot

[paper harness]

Shred applies to all enemies hit, no matter what

[placid fiber]

Did you ask about potato salad? :3

[paper harness]

Which improves flak horde clear from rampage

[remote lark]

i think dorns talking about the dclaw discussion from yesterday

[paper harness]

That’s why they are paired

[remote lark]

for some reason

[south grove]

what's a good weapon to practice combos on

[remote lark]

i was experimenting with a cleave blessing and skullcrusher

[rotund shoal]

evis 3

[median steeple]

what the fuck

it's back to normal

what

[south grove]

I'm having difficulty trying to adjust between weapons

[median steeple]

why?

[paper harness]

20% unyielding is additive with 25% unyielding on weapons

[pale spindle]

Wait Devils can stagger? 🤔

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/schizo-cat-the-voices-gif-25415230

[paper harness]

45% extra damage to unyielding

[rocky nacelle]

schizo moment by psycho

[paper harness]

Which is massive

[pale spindle]

MASSIVE 🍆

[rotund shoal]

thats normal

takes a bit to learn the moveset flow on any weapon

dont expect to get it first couple of matches unless super cracked

[remote lark]

why is some stufa dditive and some stuff mult..

fatshark sucks

[south grove]

what are the combos on evis 3 tho

[rotund shoal]

ask meow

they usually start from PA

but she knows more

[rocky nacelle]

PA H1 for horde clear

H2s are more for ST

and iirc the 2nd and 4th strikedowns for the lights on MK3

do more ST damage than 1 and 3 in the attack chain

[drifting wolf]

it's a good hobby to info dump on random animals

[placid fiber]

holy shit my current build in hades 2 is bad... I went in and had to fight a boss wwith a build that currently fucking sucks lol

[rotund shoal]

i built an entire custom backend for a database to store, tag and relate animal facts to each other

[rocky nacelle]

i think they might have did something to the mk3 moveset with unlocked and loaded but I forgot what

[rotund shoal]

(in lisp)

i wonder if i still have the code

[placid fiber]

honestly I think this build was worse than a lacerate flesh tearer knife... :/

[rotund shoal]

what weapon u using

[placid fiber]

I have the new weapon, but, I was not warmed up for the 1st surface boss and my lunar ray was not upgraded lol

The new weapon is pretty cool, but, you really want either an aphrodite or apollo buff for the m1

[merry flume]

nope just the other one

made heavies faster (i can't tell)

[rotund shoal]

i used to do aphrodite + daggers

holy fuck i actually play the same build in every game

[rocky nacelle]

oh wait

thats what it was

mk15 heavies come out faster

later in the attack chain

yop

I remember now

shoulda done that for mk3

[placid fiber]

I used to do aphrodite for the axe, but, someone told me about apollo and holy shit is he much better for the primary attack... the extra aoe does a fuck ton for it lol

I'm looking for the 2 new pets, atm

I currently have demeter on this weapon and... honestly... I've never been a big fan of demeter, even tho the freeze is useful

[south grove]

am I an actual noob or is creature spawner's trials difficult

[rotund shoal]

u need to kite

[rocky nacelle]

both

you should try insane trial

[rotund shoal]

it is funny that the "easy" challenge is a relatively sizeable histg horde with pretty constant specials

[placid fiber]

I actually went all in at the start of this run for the trusted shield as my starter boon... since I'm been playing around with the new version of strength atm

[rotund shoal]

i dont like demeter very much either

[rocky nacelle]

the creature spawner mod creator must be an "elitist" surely

need to nerf the trials

[rotund shoal]

i like it as a sideeffect

[rocky nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[dark spire]

Collateral dump on both bolters?

[rocky nacelle]

mobi imo

[rotund shoal]

i take a main dmg boon on my main attack and for my seondary i take demeter

[rocky nacelle]

idk why you would dump collat on a gun that can shit on everything

in a room

[dark spire]

What's the main diff about the two bolters?

[rotund shoal]

it helps with daggers especially cuz you have to skill so close to your enemy slowing them is nice

[placid fiber]

Yeah freeze is hella useful, but, I want fucking damage/aoe on my primary/special... not freeze... tho the fire is actually pretty goated on the new weapon's primary

[rocky nacelle]

one is a pistol and one is an AA12

[rotund shoal]

also i dont like pan builds on daggers

too cheesy

[rocky nacelle]

I dont use bpistol at all

[dark spire]

Oh

[rocky nacelle]

compared to bolter

but Bpistol is pretty good rn

[rotund shoal]

i think pan builds got nerfed anyway

[polar cipher]

do you have some

[placid fiber]

ooo purple attack speed, free 20% lol

[rotund shoal]

which they shouldve cuz i ran it once and literally killed half of chronos health with one attack

trivializes game

[placid fiber]

... no... I ate it...

[paper harness]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3088553235

[polar cipher]

: (

[paper harness]

This honestly should be pinned

[rocky nacelle]

ok going to beat kino hill 2

noobs begone

[polar cipher]

i wanted some

[violet hornet]

running a rolling steel, team is doing fine up until the bit where you grab two power cells - one guy grabs the far one and tosses it between the train cars and the entire server crashes

[placid fiber]

but yeah... I used all 10 of my reroll points(4 rerolls) for that stupid starter boon lol

[rotund shoal]

LMAO

based

[paper harness]

Right

[violet hornet]

seems like an unnecessary risk lol

[paper harness]

So it wasn’t one off

[violet hornet]

I don't think I have seen it yet so I was curious lol

[paper harness]

Fuck my life

[rotund shoal]

How did they not test this lol

Ive wanted to throw it off the train so many times

but ive stopped myself to not be an ahole

somebody was bound to do it

[paper harness]

It happened to my lobby once

I could not replicate it

I assumed it was not related

[violet hornet]

It did respawn in the original spot before crashing so there was at least a tiny delay

[paper harness]

I know why it’s happening

I’ll have it fixed

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-the-builder-fix-it-hammer-gif-14492951

[paper harness]

This game makes me wanna kms sometimes

[dark spire]

Spearhead shoots twice on one click when not aiming down sight, straight in the bin.

[paper harness]

Spent 3 hours on the train attempting to replicate

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/who-asked-did-i-ask-i-asked-meme-get-real-gif-21114957

[rocky nacelle]

👍

[violet hornet]

goddamn

[paper harness]

Not even the worst one

17 hours of consignment yard before I got the door clip

[hard nexus]

it’s full auto when not ADS

[grizzled aspen]

I have purchased Hades again.

Now I can play it on pc in 4k.

[rotund shoal]

hades or hades 2

[grizzled aspen]

First one.

Liked it more than the 2nd one.

[rotund shoal]

fair enough

i liked both equally i think

[merry flume]

what about maelstrom CIVI that makes the average player so fucking stupid and bad at the game

[rocky nacelle]

no ammo = no gun

"wait i have to use melee the whole mission or be sparing with my shots"

[rotund shoal]

I need ammo!

I need ammo!

[merry flume]

everyone was zealot

[rotund shoal]

I need ammo!

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/kanye-west-kanyewest-yeezy-meme-gif-22503154

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/oryx-gif-26570562

[paper harness]

Yeah?

That’s never changed the behavior

[merry flume]

one also had mk2 taxe

[paper harness]

[rocky nacelle]

theres something satisfying

about getting to the end of the CIVI

[merry flume]

how do you fail at CIVI with the flak killer

[rocky nacelle]

and no one has 0/red ammo

[merry flume]

our vet didn't go scavenger :)

[paper harness]

How much streak was lost

[rocky nacelle]

you can tell who plays civi often or is not a brain dead idiot

if they're halfway empty before the first event or not

[paper harness]

I lost a 14 today to a vet team killing me with a poxburster

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-cat-cat-depressed-depression-gif-13240550249247957481

[rocky nacelle]

vets and bursters dont mix

it seems

[paper harness]

Did the same shit again on the same map

Didn’t die

Only 3 in the door

[rocky nacelle]

shoulda been 10

[rotund shoal]

"Poxburster! Shoot it before it gets close!"

[paper harness]

[merry flume]

gun ogryns that just kickback everything that moves :)

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1296385100837294080/attachment.gif

[paper harness]

He did

[rotund shoal]

Shoot the VA who recorded that

[paper harness]

He shot it onto me

Then a chaos spawn showed up

And 3 players got killed by it

[plush estuary]

your ammo

[paper harness]

[south grove]

can some teach me how to kite properly?

I feel like I'm doing it wrong

[paper harness]

The better one was the sycorax one

[rocky nacelle]

dont slide when your back is turned to enemies

[rotund shoal]

I love it when people write gg when they wipe and u gotta 1v1 cspawn

[rocky nacelle]

pro tip

i used to have a bad habit of sliding away from enemies

[rocky nacelle]

(it just makes them hit your back easier)

[south grove]

do they still ice skate?

[rocky nacelle]

no sliding with your backturned to enemies is pointless

[rotund shoal]

they always have

[south grove]

I've been doing side dodges so I don't know anymore

[rocky nacelle]

just use stamina and out run them

[rotund shoal]

its just how the game works

[paper harness]

Slide dodge less

[placid fiber]

@rotund shoal btw, John, have you had the triple beam attack boosted lunar ray yet, in Hades 2?

[paper harness]

It eats two dodges

[placid fiber]

It fucks >.>

[rotund shoal]

is that new?

[placid fiber]

no

[rotund shoal]

i did some lunar ray stuff but i found it underwhelming

in damage

[grizzled aspen]

attempt CIVI auric mael
join into mission in progress
I am spawned at the very start by myself

[rotund shoal]

compared to just stacking boons on primary/special

the best one was the defensive one

of the moon powers

[paper harness]

Team wiped

[placid fiber]

Get triple beam and the attack boost... I've melted bosses with it

[rotund shoal]

like a heal or invuln