zealot-class

[wraith cipher]

because most of the time when elites come to kill you its the chaff you cant deal with immediately thatll chip you to death while dealing with the priority problem

if you kill the chaff you can just focus on the elites

aka flamer

[frosty herald]

puncture shattering bolter

[frosty herald]

86

[drowsy steppe]

this is hard solely because it relies on how good your team is

[frosty herald]

mogged noob

[drowsy steppe]

downright impossible to progress on auric

[frosty herald]

shouldve done 100 runs of twins with me brock and red

[drowsy steppe]

nah

[paper harness]

solo carry

[violet hornet]

Just carry the shit out of every game

[fluid jackal]

I get simpletons who go down as lvl 30 on malice low

its tragic

[drowsy steppe]

thats what Ive been doing

[paper harness]

One of my boys took 1200 hours to do it because he jumps off the map every game

[polar cipher]

i do this but on accident

[violet hornet]

Lmao

[fluid jackal]

you make it look easy

true professional

[polar cipher]

is this an insult or a compliment truly

[paper harness]

screenshots borked beyond belief

[polar cipher]

i am just blind and think i can jump

[drowsy steppe]

bro plays on black bars res

[paper harness]

just windows

[polar cipher]

love this for u

does this work or does it look stupid

[stone fern]

you need until detah

[polar cipher]

so should I just switch the first half of the skill tree to the left side

[visual stream]

Martyr's purpose is the worst CDR in the game btw, wouldn't run it

[stone fern]

i dont like book tho

oh shit yeah

switch that to desperation

there we go

[polar cipher]

is desperation good or could i use ecclesiarchs

[golden anchor]

What weap is that for

[polar cipher]

I am using Thammer

[storm elm]

Me when Melk gives me a Grimoire/Scripture collection contract:

[polar cipher]

is that bad

[stone fern]

you REALLY should try chastise with thammer

[golden anchor]

no need for scourge, might as well take blood redemption for more toughness

[misty helm]

[stone fern]

ehhh

blood redemption doesnt do much

but yeah

[polar cipher]

where

[golden anchor]

bleed ain't doing much on thammer either though so

might as well

[stone fern]

for fast weapons use scourge for slower weapons blood redemption

[frosty herald]

il give you a neat build that works for me

[polar cipher]

OH U MEAN FURY omg

[stone fern]

yes

[polar cipher]

i was lookin all over my tree i feel dumb

[golden anchor]

lol right

[polar cipher]

I used to use fury

[stone fern]

its okie thats the old name

[polar cipher]

but

my problem was

[golden anchor]

boomers still calling it chastise the wicked

[stone fern]

we're old

yeah

[polar cipher]

I didnt care about taking dmg so I would rush ahead and get downed really fast...

[golden anchor]

member when holy revenant was 75% hp or something dumb

[stone fern]

chastise gives you a lot of damage

[visual stream]

Nope, you could get to full

Glad they didn't keep it that way after tree patch

[golden anchor]

oh right, that was before they nerfed it once lol

[opal star]

holy revenant used to be uncapped lmao

those were the days man

[golden anchor]

Bleed knife stacking with itself

[polar cipher]

why would I not want to take the loner on this one

or how do i change it up to where i can

[golden anchor]

That was when I swore to never use knife again lol

idiots back in the day getting carried by left click bleed knife thinking they were good lol

that shit went through bulwark shield as well

[golden anchor]

Loner is ass, think of it as the skill point penalty for thy wrath be swift lol

[polar cipher]

ooooh okay gotcha

[opal star]

pillar chase mentioned

[visual stream]

Who's your favorite killer

[opal star]

WYST

[visual stream]

I love Niloticus and Fuwatti, I wish Nilo wasn't kinda dogshit though

[opal star]

MX as a runner-up

[visual stream]

He's one of the only ones who scare me atp

[frosty herald]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d3eb9be-bbad-4f98-80aa-ddc7bd2d3cca/true-freak?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[polar cipher]

thank you

[frosty herald]

actual crackhead build

the voice of terra is for the very funny instant toughness bar when firing into a horde

remember bolter is a hordeclear weapon

[opal star]

talentless build

[opal star]

nilo beats my ass every time I’m ngl

[visual stream]

He can be either really good or really bad depending on the map

[opal star]

fucking

fazbear’s frights

[visual stream]

That steel map with buttons and vents makes him useless

Same with the campsite map

Mansion and Fnaf map he's goated though

[opal star]

Forest king + fazbear’s frights

[visual stream]

Forest King looks awesome, I was thinking ab picking him up

[opal star]

They’re indeed a strong killer

esp on the more cramped maps

lurking facade is bullshit and I hate dealing with it as a survivor tho

[visual stream]

EXE seems kinda overtuned, he's probably my least favorite to go against

Vita too

[opal star]

Oh I HATE vita mimic

And EXE.. eh

He’s aight

But Uncle Samsonite

Oooooooh uncle samsonite

[vague depot]

Would I heal more with holy rev by horde clearing or focusing on a boss/elites

[opal star]

oh right darktide

uh

[opal star]

horde

[vague depot]

Alright

[high blade]

ok so I'm new to the game and I have finally unlocked the holy trinity (assault chainsword, heavy eviscerator, and assault chainaxe)

What differentiates these 3 chainsaws on sticks?

[vague depot]

Heavy eviscerator is the most simple and efficient to use, assault chain sword is a smaller heavy evis but with more style, chainaxe is “oops all overheads”

[opal star]

The heavy eviscerator is pretty much the assault chainsword if it was bigger, heavier and more awesome

The assault chainsword makes for a solid all-rounder in terms of speed, damage and anti-armor

[golden anchor]

Chainaxe is slightly more single target focused but has serviceable horde clear too

[fleet zealot]

Chsword is a horde muncher

Chaxe has safe clear, at least mk4 does, but it’s up there with the slowest horde clear weapons

[paper harness]

it depends

[golden anchor]

Just run it with marty and slaughterer+headtaker

buzzsaw go brr

[high blade]

gimme the complicated ish answer. rn all I'm getting is that they all kill things

[paper harness]

chainaxe 4 with slaughterer headtaker has some pretty insane cleave on heavies

not as much clear as the assault chain sword but significantly superior armour damage

[golden anchor]

Unless you really like chainsword, evisc and chainaxe are probably better weapons overall

[fleet zealot]

I do

[fleet zealot]

It still is target capped at 4

The cleave and stagger are good on 4 yes, but it still has a target cap that fucks the speed

[golden anchor]

Evisc has better horde clear, Chainaxe has better single target, and chainsword trades off a bit of damage on mobility (but not enough to really be worth that tradeoff imo)

[fleet zealot]

Chsword has better chaff clear but add in bruisers and evis will catch up

Like just poxers groaners, chsword is a machine

[golden anchor]

For Evisc and Chainaxe they feel a lot smoother to use with some source of attackspeed, can use chastise, IJ, or marty to shore them up

no one wipes to poxers and groaners so a weapon being good at that feels pretty irrelevant lol

[paper harness]

It’s essentially brutal momentum

But with ungodly unyield

[fleet zealot]

Chsword is a great crit weapon, since it’s crit damage doesn’t fall off with cleave

Blazing piety, scourge and duelist

[golden anchor]

I did that build when BP was shit last patch lol

it just made me sad

[paper harness]

I need to research how to build my 3 assault chain swords

[golden anchor]

it was good memes because evisc cleave was dead lol

[paper harness]

Not my kind of weapon, but funny builds are still funny builds

[golden anchor]

but it just felt worse at everything unfortunately

[fleet zealot]

Chsword feels like a pool noodle gea

You can’t believe it has a 12 second horde clear

Until you actually test it

[hollow vector]

Fuck I hate shocking stuff

finally managed to cheese it

just changed my region to the opposite timezone from me and went to the mercantile on high intensity auric

took a few tries though

[paper harness]

Think I’ll play chain axe 4 now

[hollow vector]

still have like 2 or 3 stun nade pennances left

[visual stream]

Did you get the one where you hit a sniper from 40m yet

[hollow vector]

Nah, gonna try and find a sniper gauntlet or something

[vague depot]

How tf am I gonna do stun nade penances I’m too addicted to throwing knife

[paper harness]

I did it when I was playing malice

[fleet zealot]

I did shocking stuff pre patch 13

[paper harness]

The dark old days

[fleet zealot]

With a heavy sword

[paper harness]

I did it after

Flamer

[fleet zealot]

After doesn’t count they buffed stun nades in the talent tree /j

[paper harness]

They may be buffed but oh god they suck cock

[hollow vector]

Id like them if they exploded instantly

Also i wish there was an option to turn off auto switching after throwing grenades

[hard nexus]

evis is the most fun

[hard nexus]

me too

[violet hornet]

Blows my mind that normal grenades need to be brought out, then switched back off of despite you likely only throwing one while tknives which I'm often throwing a few of I need to press the grenade key each time for

[hard nexus]

it should be a setting

to hold a grenade or quick throw

[violet hornet]

I get that it's so you have the option to drop a normal grenade at your feet which isn't a thing with tknives but still, fuck pressing G multiple times

[hard nexus]

or a seperate key bind

[frosty herald]

i need to be able to hold throwing knives

[violet hornet]

Just give me normal grenade interaction for tknives and if I drop it on the ground it just sticks in my foot

[frosty herald]

i dont mind quickthrows but there are numerous situations where it would be nice to hold and aim them

[autumn void]

We’re zealots

We don’t aim

[violet hornet]

Yeah I completely forgot about the aim reticle, that'd be nice too

[autumn void]

We “Random Bullshit go”

[violet hornet]

It should show the arc just so we can ignore it

[hard nexus]

i do not think tknives should have a visible arc

[vague depot]

29 stability vigilant autogun this thing will not hit a single shot if I am not standing stone still and crouching

Wallahi

[autumn void]

Let faith guide your bullets brother

If you will it, you will find your mark

[vague depot]

Gotta jam the barrel right up the mouth of whatever I want to hit

[autumn void]

Sometimes I one shot Maulers

Sometimes

[hushed knoll]

s0mv80oehym

What the fuck

[vague depot]

With vigilant autogun?

[hushed knoll]

So violent*

[frosty herald]

hold the bolter in the general direction of something vaguely resembling an enemy

[autumn void]

Double barrel

[vague depot]

Oh ok

[north sedge]

s0mv80oehym

[visual stream]

HI STAN

[vague depot]

Redeem code

[paper harness]

Nvm I don’t like the chain axe

[opal star]

hm

zealot power sword

[vague depot]

For single target with dclaw should I do heavy light repeating or heavy push attack

[placid fiber]

cough ironhelm

[autumn void]

With Storm Shield

[placid fiber]

Sure it stops on an elite/special/monster... but with just hordes? It's more or less a power sword at that point

[autumn void]

Crusader Zealot mmmmm

[opal star]

I was running this thinking I had manstopper on it

deadass forgot to switch the blessings from agripinaa 😭

[violet hornet]

Ran a mk 6 ripper on ogryn yesterday because I forgot to switch the mark after crafting, you can't even full auto it while bracing

[opal star]

I sold my junk transcendent weapons and holy-

[shy kestrel]

What blessing should I run on Agri Combat Shotgun other than Full Bore?

[storm elm]

Completed a Hi-Intens Damnation Rolling Steel with 4 seconds left on the clock

[misty nova]

No respite

Unless Manstopper adds cleave when Aiming Down Sights

For uh

Finesse purposes

I guess

[shy kestrel]

Makes sense though the stagger amount of the Agri isn't that high tbh

[stone fern]

@paper harness https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1g3c85i/do_you_prioritize_thoughness_or_health_in_curios/

[misty mason]

Goes to DT reddit post:

"I only used curios with CDR, stam reduction and bomber resist."

That's enough DT reddit

[worldly belfry]

what yall using on the duelling sword?

[misty mason]

The rending and uhhh I think weakspot damage on dodge?

Something like that

[paper harness]

Precog rampage on 5

[violet hornet]

Does DS do enough armor damage you'd rather take rampage than uncanny?

[paper harness]

Ye

I am a power slut

If I can I will always use power blessings

[misty mason]

I prefer rending so I'm less reliant on stacks to poke a heavy in the face

Plus it's useful for mixed hordes

[remote lark]

does armor reduce bleed dmg

[stable cypress]

Yes

[hushed knoll]

[hushed knoll]

[native lily]

so what's the latest conspiracy for why obese shark hates chain axe ;_;

[plucky gate]

do they still? i thought chain axe got buffed like multiple times by now

idk i don't play the weapon

[pale spindle]

Then take thrust rampage

[native lily]

buff it as much as they want i think it'll continue to suck as long as its lights get stuck in trash 😄

[fleet zealot]

they don't hate chainaxe

[fleet zealot]

lights are good single target on mk4, and yea mk12 sounds bad but it's not a bad weapon

[native lily]

forgot there's another mark lol

[fleet zealot]

when the sushi place gives you extra wasabi 😻

[misty mason]

Stan

[spare talon]

idk man i played heavy sword again after maining it for a while back in the day
and i just dont vibe with it nearly as much as i used to

[fleet zealot]

deathblow lowkey ruined it for me

cause while it's now the best blessing for hsword

[misty mason]

Why play hsword when you can thammer

[fleet zealot]

i feel no reason to take it over rashad

when rashad uses deathblow better, and chaff clear speed isn't important and people got better at the game

why play thammer when chaxe?

i can one up that too

why thammer when dueling?

[misty mason]

Because I don't hate myself enough to use chaxe

And thammer got that bonk

[north sedge]

Chaxe good

[misty mason]

Big B energy

[native lily]

yall use slaughterer and headtaker with chaxe?

[hushed knoll]

DAN HI

[north sedge]

On the mk4

[fleet zealot]

slaught ht mk4, thrust+slaught or headtaker with mk12

[misty mason]

OwO

[gentle crag]

Loaded into this match of randos.. I guess it's hammertime.

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-hammer-stop-hammer-time-cant-touch-this-super-freak-hip-hop-gif-24612402

[drowsy steppe]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1158856643866533929/1292152344879955978/Dclaw_crusher.mp4?ex=670e8fa6&is=670d3e26&hm=6b139411f7cfe942fed533c666b3a6e009f03ece6dca3a8fe09025a32fa169e1&

counterpoint

[native lily]

ngl i wouldve never put thrust on chaxe guess i'll try it

[fleet zealot]

the audacity

[drowsy steppe]

power creep 😔

[fleet zealot]

i'd be a pissed off ogryn in hel

[vague depot]

Do you activate fotf before the parry goes through or after

[fleet zealot]

if someone did that to me

[drowsy steppe]

seems if you perfect parry

Duelist will proc so in that split second

you activate fotf

[fleet zealot]

i think you activate fotf to negate the possible mistiming since it has iframe

oh yea duelist

[drowsy steppe]

practice it in psykh

[vague depot]

How do I turn on ai again

[fleet zealot]

mods

[vague depot]

Damn

[drowsy steppe]

when the non anti armor weapon becomes anti armor

[fleet zealot]

how little puny parry big club with small knife

https://tenor.com/view/animation-disney-movies-the-emperors-new-groove-kronk-gif-14836333

[drowsy steppe]

with 10% elite damage to push the 1 shot bp btw

not 25% carapace

[gentle crag]

I have never seen a chaos spawn and plague ogryn dual spawn melt so quickly

Although these shouties seem to suck at raising downed teammates

[paper harness]

No

[frozen trench]

oi

which is the funnest combat axe to use?

like which feels fun, simple, yet mechanical

[gentle crag]

rashad

[stable cypress]

you're not going to find mechanical with caxe

[frozen trench]

aight

[north sedge]

Nothing mechanical about axes, you just mash m1

[stable cypress]

2 are identical with one having better stats, one is a wonky turd for sickos

[frozen trench]

just wanted one that feels the most expressive

out of them

[stable cypress]

achlys

[fleet zealot]

the only one with mechanical is the sucky one

[remote lark]

is there a wiki or doc that shows how much damage each enemy deals in damnation

i'm doing something i think might be helpful for people

[hard nexus]

don’t, the latency will mess up up

it’s better to just practice

in game

[drowsy steppe]

Ive done it in games

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOV6iJS6omTmAZzPd?invite=cr-MSxnbWksMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[native lily]

achlys mk succy

[hard nexus]

it’s much more forgiving in game

and the timing is a bit different

[leaden stag]

Why play zealot? They made ogryn for a reason.

[spare talon]

i find aiming down when you hit the parry more consistently hits the head

[drowsy steppe]

yuh

[spare talon]

not moving 2 inches when dodging

and finesse weapons

[drowsy steppe]

sometimes I miss parrys

[drowsy steppe]

ogryn boring to play

[frozen trench]

which zealot build would mesh well with a combat axe?

any of them?

[drowsy steppe]

pick your poison between heavy attack spammer, ranged spammer, damage sponge

[stable cypress]

just don't go piety with caxe

[leaden stag]

Ogryn not boring to play when you think about big gun and hammer go paraparaparaparap and squish squish squish

[spare talon]

standard IJ build with a bm/ht rashad

[frozen trench]

aight

[leaden stag]

Slide dodge. Also finesse weapon only necessary if you have soft hands

[frozen trench]

i went ij and the dash

went middle tree for immo grenades because i need penance

[leaden stag]

Tough hands hold big weapon and release into crowd of maulers

[drowsy steppe]

yea ogryns not for me then

my least played class

[stable cypress]

I play every class but rn ogryn less b/c I'm pretty tired of "Do heavies" meta

[paper harness]

All but one class of ogryn melees suck

[hard nexus]

why is everyone’s solution to any complaint about dodges slide dodging

slide dodges are not good

except in very specific situations

[paper harness]

Slide dodges can be optimal if you also cancel every time

For even more tdr

[hard nexus]

consuming 2 dodges isn’t really worth it imo

then again i usually run less mobile weapons

[paper harness]

Cancel

[hard nexus]

wdym cancel

[paper harness]

Press the opposite key

[hard nexus]

ohg

[paper harness]

It will only consume one dodge

[leaden stag]

Specific situation = no finesse weapons, non-soft hands

[hard nexus]

oh

noted

i will try that out later

[hard nexus]

u got soft hands woke

grind 500 levels on zealot rn then talk 2 me

get those hands dirty

[leaden stag]

Tough hands slide dodge cancel before 2 shotting Mauler

Zealots can only dream of the H1 shield spam

[hard nexus]

nuh uh

[paper harness]

Ah the brain dead pub ogryn weapon

[leaden stag]

"it's boring to help team win in a simple way"

[paper harness]

I’m a tonk guys see

Holds special and does nothing

[tight fog]

why are we slagging off our ogryn pals

shame on u

[stable cypress]

I think they started the slagging

[hard nexus]

h1 qq h1 qq h1 qq

[paper harness]

All of ogryn weapons fall into very op or trash moveset

[hard nexus]

actually no, ogryn zest asked why we play zealot when ogryn exists

pretty sure this is the 3rd time he’s done that

[golden anchor]

Ogryn exists when you have 1 too many drinks but still want a free win on auric dam+

[leaden stag]

1st time to zealots

[stable cypress]

thats what I meant lol

[leaden stag]

I am trying to gain understanding

[stable cypress]

not so sure about that

[hard nexus]

zealot is much more fun imo

[tight fog]

the sweet brute doesnt know what hes saying

[hard nexus]

mobility in combat is very fun

[leaden stag]

I asked psykers first and now zealots.

[paper harness]

Ognomicon victim #91002

[golden anchor]

I lose brain cells every time I play ogryn because it's so easy lul

[hard nexus]

wdym wrath is so good

[leaden stag]

I won't ask veterans because I know why (divorced parents)

[pure hare]

best curio setup for zealot?

[hard nexus]

hello less cool meow

[pure hare]

meow~

[hard nexus]

i run 3 toughness, but you can go 2 toughness 1 health, 2 toughness 1 stam

[paper harness]

2 toughness 1hp

[golden anchor]

3 wounds

[leaden stag]

You just sad because no holy book for zealots.

[paper harness]

2x gunner

[hard nexus]

because i don’t like thinking i also take 3x hp 3x toughness and 2x gunner resist

[paper harness]

Isn’t there

[spare talon]

he's making it

[paper harness]

[hard nexus]

cole has arrived

[leaden stag]

Don't much care, he won't be able to put ogryn in the title

[paper harness]

It’s sad I have to go against my ethics to write about the worst balanced weapons

[shy kestrel]

Why not just full on HP or full on toughness?

[hard nexus]

what do u mean

[hard nexus]

breakpoint regarding bursters and snipers

i believe if you go down once, you’re one shot to both without an HP curio

[paper harness]

Ds4

[spare talon]

writing about what is good to run on ds

[golden anchor]

functional fingers?

[paper harness]

Actually causing me headaches

[leaden stag]

He sad because have to recommend recommendable strats instead of "honorable" ones

[golden anchor]

well you can add knives to that too

[paper harness]

Yeah

[golden anchor]

ain't nothing honorable about knives lol

can't wait for knife nerf

[shy kestrel]

Hmm, I see.

[paper harness]

And thunder hammers

[leaden stag]

"use worst weapon and feel superior being revived for 13th time"

[paper harness]

Ogryn moment right there

Go bait post elsewhere

[drowsy steppe]

tf kinda ogryn iq argument is that lmao

[golden anchor]

Ogryns should be nerfed by making them take 10 seconds to revive

[stable cypress]

whats up with ogryn specifically attracting the most elitists and racists

[golden anchor]

takes extra energy to lift up their fat asses

[drowsy steppe]

they are the problem and correct on the latter

🙂

[tight fog]

okay ogryn time for bed

[leaden stag]

Was what I said racist? I am sorry I do not know why.

[spare talon]

i mean
im currently having a blast with tactical axe carrying DS users who use it cuz they were told it was meta

[stable cypress]

nah with the latter I'm referring to other ones

[spare talon]

i had to untrap 2 ds vets typing that

[paper harness]

I have been loving my grey dclaw

[stable cypress]

the great purge along with some dude complaining about DEI out of nowhere a few days ago

[golden anchor]

Commisar Dukane, victim of DEI

[spare talon]

i had to rez one typing that

[spare talon]

i had to untrap one typing that

im being serious

[leaden stag]

They were told to use something so they are not practiced in it. It could still be good even if meta. I don't really know

[paper harness]

The only ogryn weapons with a good moveset are all comically op

[frosty herald]

we styling

[paper harness]

The picks

[hard nexus]

ah

despair

[drowsy steppe]

lmao

we should purge more ogryns

[tight fog]

Destroy Erase Improve

[golden anchor]

Ogryns were in a great place on game release (they were trash lol)

[leaden stag]

Ogryn is just the best class, maybe it shouldn't be, but it is. I am not elitist I am just trying to save you guys time.

[paper harness]

Dairy eggs in my stomach

[frosty herald]

puritan inquisitor

[golden anchor]

only the mk3 knife was good, everything else was pretty meh

[paper harness]

Ya know

[hard nexus]

me using a mk3 crit evis and out damaging a knife user from this discord

lemme send u the screenshot

i sent it to dorn

[paper harness]

Perhaps heavy hitter should be nerfed

[hard nexus]

but he did not respond

[paper harness]

[hard nexus]

grrrr

[drowsy steppe]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1131478813285548170/1292375929028612116/gunlugger_cspawn.mp4?ex=670eb720&is=670d65a0&hm=907120900902d39e2785b9a9cf57a8c9b45d72f8b253bc1d0ea442a39a194b4d&

[golden anchor]

Lol the dark days where Pmaul was unironically one of the best ogryn weapons

[frosty herald]

you arent worthy meow...

[drowsy steppe]

engaging ogryn gameplay

(its not)

[spare talon]

HH is currently the only ogryn keystone worth using right now

and its just boring

[golden anchor]

Should delete the bleed damage reduction

and make FNP lose stacks on health damage

[frosty herald]

feel no pain

[stable cypress]

ogryn tree needs a rework in general but lmao the keystones are so shit in terms of design

[spare talon]

thats how it used to be

[golden anchor]

yea

its just OP when its stacked with the bleed DR

[spare talon]

then they gave it a 1 second grace period but let shooters and gunners chew it up

which is obscene

[golden anchor]

old FNP + no bleed DR or move it around so you can't feasibly stack both would be pretty reasonable

[spare talon]

and means youre always at low stacks in auric even if youre barely in danger

[paper harness]

FNP was shot for being extremely broken

[leaden stag]

Boringness is next to holiness. Novelty is the breeding ground of corruption.

[paper harness]

Lucky bullet sucks

[spare talon]

the good change they made to it was making it not additive

[paper harness]

Heavy hitter is bad conceptually

[spare talon]

but the toughness change means youre rarely actually making any use of it

[hard nexus]

heavy hitter is just sustained assault but a keystone

cole ignoring my dm

brocken

[spare talon]

scourge as a node is more keystone worthy than HH at base

[hard nexus]

real

[stable cypress]

distinctly remembering certain people getting intensely upset when I said this about pre-nerf fnp while they complained about other classes being broken

[paper harness]

FNP allowed you to essentially never die

[spare talon]

but in its current state

it does nothing

[stable cypress]

"wah wah wah gold toughness" while fnp ogryn fucking tanks 2 dozen gunners for a revive

[spare talon]

it should be based on health damage but keep its current dr calculation as multiplicitive with other dr

or just make it to where ranged attacks just cant trigger a loss in stacks

only melee

[stable cypress]

I am patiently waiting for critgryn to become an actual thing you can build for without it being massively garbage

[drowsy steppe]

pain

[fleet zealot]

because there was a good subset of ogryns who picked fnp to be brainless 0 dps tanks and not as "protects you so you can keep doing big damage"

[drowsy steppe]

kek

[stable cypress]

no they were just mad b/c "other classes bad ogryn good"

[hard nexus]

LMAO

[paper harness]

The amount of delusional people in ogryn chat is outstanding

[fleet zealot]

lets be careful here, don't want to start another war, even if we won the last one

[paper harness]

Nobody tell them point blank barrage isn’t healthy for the game

[median steeple]

me when the brain parasite tells me to hate ogryn

[visual stream]

B-but charmed reload

[opal star]

I thought this was a veteran thing wtf

ogryn have been the most-

well, they had been the most friendly class

[frosty herald]

most elitists with ogryn now that is a funny sentence

[solar gorge]

i think it's evenly spread out

the racist part now

those people used to be in ogryn chat true

but most have been purged

[plucky gate]

i thought being racist was part of being a warhammer fan

[opal star]

this truly is the warhammer 40k

[stone fern]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCK

ACCIDENTALLY QUEUED UP INTO ROLLING STEEL

[opal star]

see json gets it

[stone fern]

WHY GOD WHY

[opal star]

punishment

[stone fern]

Im gonna dodge to kms irl

[rocky nacelle]

@frosty herald ill play next inv

doing hella story shit

[stone fern]

only way out

[north sedge]

The holy jihad

[rocky nacelle]

since I did a fuck ton on my homeboys ps5

[frosty herald]

aint no way

[hard nexus]

real actually

every time i go in there it’s just bad take after bad take

[frosty herald]

bro im going to bed soon

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-part-2-stilgar-fremen-disbelief-gif-12317631084823747336

[opal star]

auric exemplar seekers being sentenced to hell (rolling steel)

https://tenor.com/view/lady-dragged-green-dark-horror-gif-22161451

[north sedge]

Memories

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/sasha-wolfdog-wolp-wolfdog-gif-13396037099532422410

[opal star]

if people are saying it's racist

[solar gorge]

back when this server wasn't full of woke liberals

[opal star]

then wouldnt one thing that it's probably racis-

[hushed knoll]

Lambda what

[frozen trench]

aight

[north sedge]

Well they did it so hard that some got the boot and others left so

[hushed knoll]

HI DOUGH

[frozen trench]

i used the combat axe

[solar gorge]

how woke are you stan

[frozen trench]

man

[hushed knoll]

[frozen trench]

was that boring

[drowsy steppe]

I forgot what does the penance required to do

[hushed knoll]

I’m pretty awake rn

[solar gorge]

good

don't fall asleep

[hushed knoll]

But I was just mermaiding while comfywomfy

[north sedge]

Stan has fallen asleep oj discord multiple times now

[hushed knoll]

So I felt a bit tired

[opal star]

complete 10 auric missions back to back w/o dying

[hushed knoll]

Oj

[solar gorge]

what's that

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/oj-simpson-confused-smile-wtf-whatshappening-gif-5043092

[solar gorge]

are you alarielle

ariel

the soap

ginger fish

[drowsy steppe]

alarielle 😍

[violet hornet]

Me looking in ogryn chat thinking "ahh I bet they ignored this" and seeing 45 mins of people complaining about zealot

[opal star]

FUUUUUCK

NOT ROLLING STEEL

[drowsy steppe]

typical

[opal star]

https://tenor.com/view/lady-dragged-green-dark-horror-gif-22161451

[drowsy steppe]

this was hella funny though

[violet hornet]

I didn't think people did that seriously, I thought everyone was just giving vets a hard time in general but not seriously lmao

[hushed knoll]

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/sasha-wolfdog-wolp-wolfdog-gif-13396037099532422410

who up

swaggin

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/vinesauce-earthworm-meat-msn-vinny-gif-26335063

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/real-and-true-lightskin-agreement-gif-25487093

[opal star]

oh we won

[modern lintel]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0RQAT5aOSMCAhwCrmRHNco?si=42073af7Ss-s6lq97H-IoA

[misty wraith]

i love rolling steel

too bad it gives you fuckin nothing for completing it thiugh

[spare talon]

i just got shittalked for being too good

unreal

[lean cairn]

anyone know why vigilant autogun is in there twice

[spare talon]

bug

[spare talon]

@hard nexus

[lean cairn]

one gives me graia and the other agripinaa

[spare talon]

but marks are fully interchangable, so it doesnt matter

[lean cairn]

very weird

[visual stream]

What does this even mean

In what context are they angry that you're good

[spare talon]

also killed 2 demonhosts with tac axe

[frosty herald]

this beast called a cat

is snoring so loud my god

[copper hawk]

Greetingz noobz

[spare talon]

theyre either pissed off that i was doing most of everything
or it was just a weird indirect way of complimenting me? idk

[visual stream]

Could've been a satirical compliment yeah

[spare talon]

i am certain they werent happy cuz they instantly left at the end screen after they said that

[visual stream]

Oh

Too gud xd

[spare talon]

sorry ill suck next time

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

[spare talon]

or resign myself to auric maelstroms at the behest of the heresy players

[hard nexus]

stay out of my heresy.

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-growl-snarl-girlwolf-shewolf-gif-9942770988235712676

[spare talon]

stay tf out of my normal board missions

stay tf outta my aurics

OK SO WHERE DO I GO

[frosty herald]

sedition

or outside

[opal star]

psykanium

[opal star]

1.6k damage taken as a psyker is crazy

[spring storm]

join my games 😳

[spare talon]

he was the highest level

[opal star]

SEVEN RESCUES??

[distant lagoon]

Opinion on tractical axe?

[pure hare]

end game is pretty much trying different builds and tuning

[fleet zealot]

exceedingly mid

[distant lagoon]

What is the build for taxe?

[fleet zealot]

all the carpal tunnel of the knife without amazing damage

[spare talon]

ive been playing taxe these last few days and honestly

its not as mid as i first thought

[misty nova]

Stack crit

[spare talon]

its crit adms against armor are quite ridiculous

its not going to be as strong as overtuned options like rashad or duelling sword or knife, etc

[distant lagoon]

Shred + headtaker?

[spare talon]

but its quite nice once you click with it

ive been having fun with it

[distant lagoon]

Also which mark is better?

[spare talon]

this is what i use with the mk2 w/ shred headtaker

[fleet zealot]

mk2 or mk7 don't use mk4

iirc

[spare talon]

heavy attacks on the mk2 dont really matter too much if youre not using brutal momentum

theyre 3 cleave diagonals that are fast, but not nearly as fast as the light attacks

[distant lagoon]

Should you ever use heavies with taxe?

[spare talon]

if youre not using brutal momentum on the mk2

[distant lagoon]

that's basically my knife build, so kinda same for taxe, yeah

[spare talon]

i think the mk7 heavies are all overheads and uppercuts, so it makes sense to use them there

but the mk2 single target is also light attack spam too

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/steam-uninstall-steam-uninstall-game-modern-warfare2-warzone-gif-27319191

[spare talon]

so if youre not using brutal momentum, the heavy attacks arent really that great for group clear, when you can just spam light attacks

[distant lagoon]

But what about single targets

[spare talon]

the heavy attacks on mk2 have a useful quirk tho, they can stagger ragers out of their combos, but thats really the only time i use them

[spare talon]

.

[latent vortex]

LMAO

[distant lagoon]

BUT WHAT ABOUT MK 7

[latent vortex]

this is PEAK

[distant lagoon]

Like are its heavies actually have higher dps than lights?

[spare talon]

mk7 single target is just an overhead and uppercut, so yeah theyre better for single target

wait

am i thinking of mk4

yeah i am

im stupid

[latent vortex]

it's ok, it's only natural for zealots

[spare talon]

the mk7 has a diagonal then an overhead for heavies

horde clear is using the diagonal then light loop
and single target is using the overhead then 2 lights to loop it

someone who uses the mk7 has also told me that light spam also works just fine for horde clear on this one

[south grove]

@rotund shoal?

[south grove]

super impact?

[spare talon]

but i like the monkey mode mk2

[placid fiber]

Yeah, but, that's not mk2 levels of cocainium(for the lights) <.<

[spare talon]

so goofy

[sterile basalt]

Is the horde clear still good without BM

[spare talon]

its not as good with bm, but after playing with lights during horde clear for a bit its not worse enough to sacrifice shred or headtaker for it

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/telmo-coca-harina-raquetaso-esnifar-gif-25660568

cole with the mk2 when he sees a crusher ^

[sterile basalt]

Tac axe is still in a weird spot to me I rly want to like them but they’re just so mid

[pale spindle]

On Zealot it's funny because u can spike the attack speed

[spare talon]

plus with the push attack having a really clean angle and the same damage/cleave as a heavy attack, its def worth weaving into your horde clear

[spare dome]

i just find them fun and involved

[sterile basalt]

Yea some weapons are just made for zealot

Like, playing knife on vet is 7 point cost (more than any other melee weapon)

Meanwhile u can grab everything important for knife with zealot basically for free

Same for Tac axe tbh

Also @spare talon try slaughter spree, might go hard

[spare dome]

did the left hand piety node always give an extra 2% toughness per kill

[spare talon]

thats the 100% crit on hs kill>

?

[spare dome]

slaughter spree is awkward af, i really tried it

[spare talon]

i already reach 92% naturally on this build

[misty nova]

Yeah
Unlisted

[sterile basalt]

Crit weakspot kill makes ur next melee atk within 5s guaranteed crit

U can run that with BM

[misty nova]

Or used to be unlisted

[sterile basalt]

And achieve unhealthy crit rate plus BM one taps

[spare talon]

doesnt help as much against things that dont die in one crit headshot

[sterile basalt]

Since u can force melee crits with FotF

[spare dome]

yea but only twice

[spare talon]

plus having 92% crit chance easily naturally is pretty big

[sterile basalt]

Yea but u still have piety + scourge for like 70% avg crit chance

[misty nova]

Theoretically with Stalwart and some other talents you could restore 17% toughness on heavy kill
Yeah?

[sterile basalt]

Yea but at that point it’s like
Why

[spare talon]

shred can kickstart piety and scourge, and shred+piety can kickstart it even harder

[pale spindle]

I've been trying to make crit TA work but the lack of attack speed is painful 😭

[placid fiber]

idk, man, having a 96% crit chance means you have half the chance to not crit...

[sterile basalt]

I just don’t think it’s worth for vet

[pale spindle]

No I mean for Zealot

[misty nova]

No real reason other than limit testing

[pale spindle]

Piety TA feels worse than Judgement

[sterile basalt]

Vet’s 10% atk speed is the hardest to grab out of the 3 human classes

[pale spindle]

Not sure why, especially since the crit bonus on the internal stat

[south grove]

I wanna kms

I got locked out of archivum sycorax's tunnel section

closed the door on me

[placid fiber]

for people who aren't a fan of weapon specialist*

[spare talon]

plus with headtaker being strength, and light overheads having 1.5 cleave, youre reliably hitting 2 enemies with the overhead lights in a horde, the 2nd target not dying with a crit but still taking decent damage, but the important thing is that theyre now bleeding, its really easy to maintain scourge even in hordes, not elites and such

[misty nova]

That was supposed to be patched no?

[south grove]

no idea

[spare talon]

so its not as unrealistic to maintain that 92% crit chance as it sounds

[south grove]

I got grabbed by a weakened cspawn and after it dropped me I was locked out

[sterile basalt]

It’s just generally more investment to grab

[placid fiber]

Maybe for you, but, I always take weapon specialist lol

[sterile basalt]

Depends on ur weapons

[placid fiber]

always

[spare talon]

if youre disabled when the door is able to be closed, it will

[sterile basalt]

Nah some weapons need breakpoints

[misty nova]

Saw it happen on Warren
Funny trapper

[spare talon]

WS for free reloads and melee atk speed/dodge buffs

[placid fiber]

^

[frosty herald]

The other vet keystones are too situational for me to use

[sterile basalt]

Yea it’s good
But some weapons need breakpoints

[placid fiber]

Literally reloading 1 ammo in 2 or 5 ammo guns for 1 melee kill is goated

[frosty herald]

And i am also horrible at pining

[spare talon]

i think you were critical of my WS build that just had plasma thrown on there cuz my plasma wasnt reaching breakpoints when it was just in the build cuz its literally plasma

lmao

[sterile basalt]

I just don’t think plasma is worth playing if it doesn’t hit 1 taps honestly

[placid fiber]

I don't think plasma is worth playing period, for me lol

[spare talon]

i was using it at that time as a cheap and cheesy get out of jail card as i was getting familiar with how to deal with dangerous things with SI shovel like crusher packs, but now that im comfortable soloing those with it i swapped back to db

[pale spindle]

Mods

Ban em

[placid fiber]

Oh yeah, ban the guy who isn't going to use Vet's most busted ranged weapon lol

[spare talon]

plasma isnt worth playing because the discord will eat you alive

[sterile basalt]

There’re more busted guns than plasma

[south grove]

Never forgive, never forget.

[spare talon]

thats what i should do

get a perfect statted plasma

[paper harness]

not really

[spare talon]

down to the percent

[placid fiber]

fully max it out

then never use it

[frosty herald]

Cant use the tools given to you in the game...

[steady heart]

how do you even get plasma gun

[south grove]

it was perfect before I pressed empower

[spare talon]

being vet

[south grove]

I'm going to end it.

[paper harness]

I like light spam on taxe

[spare talon]

me and dorn use the same taxe and general build but he uses IJ i think and i use piety

[placid fiber]

I mean maybe not the absolute most busted gun(idk what is, and idc tbh), but, literally one of vet's most simple guns for omega damage

[south grove]

Simple, you need to be on NAW server region, do karnak twins hard mode solo 7 times and shout praise nurgle after doing it with zero damage taken, now you will be allowed to use plasma gun on zealot.

[sterile basalt]

There’re guns that are simpler to use and still crank just as much if not more damage

[spare talon]

ciag

[paper harness]

Been a few days since I last did a twins carry

https://tenor.com/view/is-it-gif-20766212

[placid fiber]

Pretty sure I hear more bitching about plasma vets and voidstrike psykers than any other ranged weapon on either class

[blissful tendon]

convenient

[pale spindle]

At least u need to aim with plasma

[blissful tendon]

I haven't gotten my hard mode carry yet

[pale spindle]

🗿

[sterile basalt]

Yea because people think it automatically makes them good when it doesn’t (plasma actually cares about headshots)

[blissful tendon]

I think I did my damnation normal mode clear with shortcut in the first month and never touched twins since

[placid fiber]

and yet I don't hear people say "I did more damage than the ciag vet" its "I did more damage than the plasma vet"

[south grove]

Alr just making sure since I remember hearing this from frog I think, reload speed dump on zarona?

[hard nexus]

i haven’t seen a ciag vet in forever

[spare talon]

TWO MEOWS

[hard nexus]

actually

[pure hare]

meow~

[hard nexus]

i cannot remember if i’ve ever seen one

[blissful tendon]

mobility is ol reliable dumpstat

[hard nexus]

we’ve already designated the other meow as the less cool meow

alternatively

meow.

vs

meow!

[sterile basalt]

What’s more visually distinctive, a giant blue projectile going through a horde and hitting a gunner 30m away or a basic automatic rifle

[hard nexus]

very big difference…

[pure hare]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1182925253983346789/1193977116283392020/1704500817251621.gif?ex=65aeacd7&is=659c37d7&hm=cbe4325749a76a5fb03eda42473d59a88e39d46c0e5d5398e66048cd4f94e8fd&

[placid fiber]

Pretty sure they're going off of the scoreboards, not the projectiles

[south grove]

Thought the reload speed between 60-80 was negligible?

[pure hare]

https://tenor.com/view/weirdcat-funnycat-psychich-assault-gif-66649479801514757

[hard nexus]

he means as in, do you notice a plasma bolt killing an enemy, or a rifle killing an enemy

usually you notice the plasma

so you’ll be aware of a plasma gun more often than a ciag

or i guess it’s a viag now

[placid fiber]

Honestly I don't notice either most of the time cause I'm more on trying to do stuff and not die >.>

[blissful tendon]

the average revolver experience involves spending 60% of your time with it out juggling reload and horde management so honestly idc I'll take my marginal timesave where I can get it

[sterile basalt]

Yea, again, people think plasma automatically makes them play better (expecting anyone playing plasma to always top damage) which is not true, and are disappointed when it doesn’t

[south grove]

Yeh I saw it here, now it's the question to trust frog or not?

[hard nexus]

yeah

u can trust him with most of his advice

[distant lagoon]

third person mode 🤮

[south grove]

But he barreled me...

[placid fiber]

And how does this apply to the people saying they did more than the plasma vet?

[hard nexus]

mining away

[south grove]

Alr Alr, dumping out my zarona ig.

[spare talon]

im showing how goofy the atk speed is

[hard nexus]

i don’t know

what to mine

i’ll mine it anyway

on this darktide day

[distant lagoon]

So would you say shred + brutal, or shred + headtaker better?

[sterile basalt]

They think anyone playing plasma should automatically top damage because “it’s an easy gun”?
Was I not clear in what I said

[spare talon]

shred ht generally

[paper harness]

Shred brutal

Save your hands

[hard nexus]

depends if you’re taking blazing piety or not

if you are, then head taker brutal momentum,

if not, then what cole said

[south grove]

I need to grind dockets again, anyone playing?

[blissful tendon]

grinding dockets?

[hard nexus]

he’s gambling for godrolls

[plush estuary]

Do you want help with twins?

[hard nexus]

and failing

[blissful tendon]

sure but I'll be home in like 20min

[plush estuary]

Okay

[distant lagoon]

what

[south grove]

2.1m spent, never forgive, never forget.

[sterile basalt]

Specifically, he’s gambling for plasma godroll, which is worse

[blissful tendon]

holy gambler

[hard nexus]

headtaker shred has the downside of having to click a lot

[distant lagoon]

what if i want all the crits, why not taking piety + shred

[nimble fiber]

[sterile basalt]

I spent 5M
I hope u don’t suffer the same

[paper harness]

A lot

[blissful tendon]

I think I probably spent like 1.5m and got a 71% charge rate plasma, I'll take what I can get

[south grove]

Extreme poverty.

[hard nexus]

u do not need higher than a 80% crit chance

[paper harness]

50+ and still didn’t get my tactical axe 2 of my dreams

[distant lagoon]

What you use diamantine now for

[sterile basalt]

I have 3 diamantine rn

[paper harness]

[distant lagoon]

Actually how much normally zealot has with piety?

[sterile basalt]

72% with scourge up

[paper harness]

Full crit piety with double stacked power blessings could be funny

[spare talon]

dont give me ideas

[south grove]

New crafting consumes a ridiculous amount of diamantine now.

[sterile basalt]

Zealot 5%
Tac axe +12%
Piety +25%
Scourge +30%

[paper harness]

Imma make another taxe me thinks

[placid fiber]

cough double impact taxe when? COUGH

[south grove]

It takes 1.5k ish for me to build a weapon from the ground up.

[paper harness]

Before I even finish rolling my ranged

[sterile basalt]

It’s like 1k per gold weapon lol

[paper harness]

I have 3 of each melee on zealot

https://tenor.com/view/broke-no-cash-gif-25565154

Going to make it 6

[distant lagoon]

sounds to me like i still want tto have shred

[blissful tendon]

what do we need 6 dupes for wdf

[misty nova]

I just realized that tac axe without BM has worse horde clear than DS

[sterile basalt]

I literally do not care about plasteel anymore
It’s just not been going down

[misty nova]

[paper harness]

So I never have to swap blessings

[blissful tendon]

xd

[paper harness]

Actually the logic behind that decision

[placid fiber]

What about for off meta for the lulz testing ones?

[sterile basalt]

I’m not rolling another plasma fuck this RNG bs

[paper harness]

Hence why I have 6

3 for meta

3 for not

[copper hawk]

I HATE DTS !!

[blissful tendon]

what's your best roll now

[paper harness]

Imagine a world where we could manually assign the bar

[south grove]

it's time to go

[paper harness]

For plasteel cost

[south grove]

ughhhghghhhhhhhhhhh

[placid fiber]

3 double impact thammers?!

[south grove]

can you hop on rn

I'm depressed

[sterile basalt]

80 damage, 80 stopping power, 80 ammo, 69 charge rate, 72 thermal resist
Seems like ammo dip (?) but I still have 135/135 so it’s prob decimal dip in ammo & elsewhere

[copper hawk]

U mean ur broke

[south grove]

another mil down the drain

[copper hawk]

Nop srry

[south grove]

yea

[copper hawk]

I have 2 deal w army bullshit

[south grove]

:(

[copper hawk]

[paper harness]

Just solo qp

[distant lagoon]

wait,t axe has +12% crit by default? Damn

[copper hawk]

12.8 yah

[distant lagoon]

what knife has?

[sterile basalt]

80% crit bonus gives u +12% M.crit chance

[spare talon]

at 80%

[copper hawk]

It has a higher base crit than knife

12% even for knife

[sterile basalt]

+15%

[spare talon]

so 17% base

[copper hawk]

Hellow wolp

[hard nexus]

no knife is +15% i’m pretty sure

[sterile basalt]

Tac axe is up to +12%, knife is +15%

[frosty herald]

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[sterile basalt]

If they ever do red weapons I imagine it’d be going from 80% to 100%

[frosty herald]

Add molten beam executioner into darktide

[hard nexus]

give us a power sword

[hard nexus]

wha

[placid fiber]

so how many of those non-meta taxes are gonna be mk4's for omega off meta?

[frosty herald]

Currently most broken build in rogue trader

[hard nexus]

ohg

yah

[copper hawk]

#zealot-class message

[hard nexus]

i need 2 try the new psyker on on RT

i also need to finish RT

[copper hawk]

I just knew taxe was higher than knife

For some rsn

In terms of base crit chance

[sterile basalt]

It’s not

Knife is higher

[frosty herald]

The biggest hurdle is getting through commorah

[gentle hound]

is taking bleed talent proc worth it on tac axe i had this after a game

[hard nexus]

no, knife has +15% crit chance, tac axe has +12.5% crit chance

[frosty herald]

4 arena fights back to back

[hard nexus]

i finished that part

[copper hawk]

He said it was 15.8

[hard nexus]

yippee!

[blissful tendon]

assassination boss shields have damage limits or something similar right

[hard nexus]

he’s wrong

[copper hawk]

In testing

[sterile basalt]

Tac axe is up to +12%, doesn’t go to 12.5%

[hard nexus]

it’s 12.5%

[blissful tendon]

or like exponential damage reduction

[distant lagoon]

you take it for crit, not for bleed

[hard nexus]

use show crit chance mod

swing with a tac axe

[sterile basalt]

Ok maybe I’m forgetting smth

[hard nexus]

it shows 17.5% crit chance

[frosty herald]

The best value for void shadows is a new playthrough

[gentle hound]

oh you right

[hard nexus]

ohg

hrmrmrmm

alright

[placid fiber]

so it has a bonus +7.5% base crit chance with the base 5% crit for weapons?

[spare talon]

lmk when you are ready for twins, i wanna try hard mode again cuz its been a while since i did it

[hard nexus]

it has a bonus 12.5% crit chance atop the base 5%, having a default crit chance of 17.5%

[frosty herald]

Also make a very strong build and a guaranteed stun by atleast 1 character

[blissful tendon]

mf looked at a 30% crit chance talent and only saw the bleed 😭

[placid fiber]

tfw you get out maffed

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[hard nexus]

the taxe (at least on the mk2) has a weird property of the final hit in the light combo and the special combo has an additional 5% crit chance

idk if it does on the heavies

[gentle hound]

nah i know it gave crit but the scoreboard stats showed so little bleed damage i wondered ifi was one shotting things and not getting value

[copper hawk]

So for one attack it's higher than knife

[south grove]

I think I need to put my trainer wheels back on

[copper hawk]

I win,

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-smile-he-he-he-elf-frieren-gif-5058064641539350421

[blissful tendon]

yeah just got off the bus gimme a few minutes and I'll be on

[hard nexus]

@sterile basalt

[sterile basalt]

Didn’t know

[hard nexus]

i need 2 watch frieren

[south grove]

toughness curios might be necessary

[fleet zealot]

that's ebcause all the good crit weapons kill things faster than bleed does

[sterile basalt]

Prob gonna put that into guide

I’ll see

[placid fiber]

So do any other weapons get special bonuses like that? I know a lot of vt2 weapons had specific bonuses for certain attacks... like the dual swords having +25% crit on the light 3 and +50% crit on the light 4 iirc

[copper hawk]

Talvi and i watched about half so far

It's vry good

[sterile basalt]

But also Tac axe is so sad on veteran I kinda don’t care about it

[hard nexus]

test it with the different mks and the heavies specials n lights

[sterile basalt]

Nah

[hard nexus]

not that i know of

[placid fiber]

rip off

[hard nexus]

ok then i will when i get home

[frosty herald]

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Watch daima

[sterile basalt]

Also they nerfed lighting reflexes (but I don’t see people mention it)

[placid fiber]

I want a refund!

[sterile basalt]

On shock maul

Lightning reflexes can only stun 1 enemy at a time now

[hard nexus]

that’s stupid

[sterile basalt]

Guess it’s time for falter meta

[hard nexus]

falter grievous wounds gaming

[sterile basalt]

No seriously
Hammerblow 5 stack has the same rager combo break as falter

But falter does it all the time

[hard nexus]

i true duod a civi with a thrust skullcrusher carapace flak indignatus smaul

[placid fiber]

inb4 dorn has the thunderous thunderstrike thammer

[hard nexus]

with grievous wounds

(it sucked)

[copper hawk]

:<

[hard nexus]

i did 1.5million damage though

[copper hawk]

Im such a noob..