zealot-class

[hard nexus]

and how i think they should be changed

but i do not have the time for that rn

[paper harness]

why is this the default response in this server

[hard nexus]

real

[south grove]

someone doesn't have friends

[ember wasp]

i mena thats fair, dueling sword is pretty strong. but thats normal for recently added things. they got the whole commissar gamestyle going

[ember wasp]

been traumatized

[placid fiber]

No, no better yet... make relic send specials... TO DA MOOON!!!!!!!!!

Like the hounds used to do to themselves! >_>'

[south grove]

it's not pretty strong, it IS the weapon now

[frosty herald]

remember catering to the 1% makes games die

[hard nexus]

sry i think this is the funniest thing ever

[ember wasp]

just play the weapon you like most fr
heavy evicerator goes brrrr

wont ever change

[paper harness]

heresy exists

[south grove]

it is

[frosty herald]

shouldnt your highness be playing maelstroms right now

[south grove]

but you getting tk'd by frog is funnier

[spare talon]

Oh my god

[hard nexus]

that argument applies particularly to games that don’t have difficulty options, games with difficulty options will let players sort themselves into their own difficulties

[hard nexus]

it scared the shit out of me when i saw that

[frosty herald]

the argument takes a hit when you gain the most materials at the highest level

[paper harness]

.

[hard nexus]

that’s why i agree with the take that heresy and damnation should have the same rewards

yah

[south grove]

tintin buff when

[paper harness]

Darktide is a joke at a5 because of the power scaling post p13

[hallow summit]

i realized i asked for chainsword blessings earlier should i have specified eviscerator

[frosty herald]

yuppers

[hallow summit]

ive been a dedicated knife user since drop apologies

[frosty herald]

rampage bloodthirsty is nice for boss damage

[hallow summit]

bloodletter?

[south grove]

bloodthirsty is 100% crit after melee weakspot kill I think

lemme check

bloodletter bad

it does the big damage number already, no need to add DOT

[hallow summit]

thats what i thought

[hallow summit]

its after special attack kill 😦

[graceful leaf]

I miss 5 seconds of crits

[south grove]

yea that's not bad

[graceful leaf]

It's.....fine

[hallow summit]

idk the special attack slows you down so thats a really slow set up while a big guys is floating around

its only for the one attack after too

[graceful leaf]

The best weapon for it is illi, but you'd be better off with shred

[hallow summit]

does the charged hit multiple times?

i havnt payed much attention

[graceful leaf]

Its a crit for a single attack, taking crit chance increase blessings are just better

[hallow summit]

ohhhh ok ty

[wispy hamlet]

hi can someone help me understand what is the max rank for curios

[stone fern]

3 knives
4 bleed blessings

bros...........................

[vast basin]

Woe, lacerate flesh tearer be upon ye

[graceful leaf]

17% toughness, 21% health, 1 wound, 3 stamina

[vague depot]

it can go up to 17%?

god damn

[graceful leaf]

The values are static when you get them

You can't increase by upgrading them, it only unlocks perk slots

[wispy hamlet]

i see

[paper harness]

It’s not even pretty strong

The ds4 is the strongest weapon in the game

[graceful leaf]

So if you get a 15% toughness curio it will stay that way

[wispy hamlet]

so my best bet is to buy from merek

[graceful leaf]

That or put curio chance perks on your current cuiros

[wispy hamlet]

oh to get drops

and what is the max rating currently

500?

[vague depot]

Yea

What perks and blessings for boltgun

I’m using throwing knife so I don’t think I need lethal prox

[wispy hamlet]

ok thx a loot

[hallow summit]

lethal prox and run n gun r fun tho

[placid fiber]

lol I had my knife and flamer build... but the randos included 1 zealot and vet that were basically designed for more or less the same purpose(together) as my build was for... so they were shredding everything before I was getting into it xD

[vast basin]

If you are going piety take cavalcade+pinning, if ij go for shattering+pinning

[graceful leaf]

Doesn't matter for curios just look for max value on the top feature

[paper harness]

Puncture shattering

[placid fiber]

it's nice to have good randos, but, they stole my job from me xD

[vast basin]

Puncture is for nerds, real boltgun players magdump

[hallow summit]

cavalcade shaterring impact

[vague depot]

I said the wrong thing mb

[hallow summit]

mag dump players unite

[vague depot]

I meant bolt pistol

[paper harness]

Puncture the crit weak spot one

[vague depot]

+Critical weakspot damage?

[paper harness]

Yeah

[vague depot]

Aight

[paper harness]

For some reason it is good

[vague depot]

Flak unyielding?

[paper harness]

Is what I run

[vague depot]

Ok

[vast basin]

Puncture DA on bistol? Alright then

[placid fiber]

Honestly... sometimes it is kinda nice to not be needed just to make sure the team doesn't omega wipe... but that was like... I was just there for the moral support at that point x.x

... why do I keep getting perfect end stat rolls on my emperor gifts? This is the 2nd time in 3 runs that I've gotten that

[vague depot]

So this is where all my luck has been disappearing to

[hallow summit]

whats yalls prefered tac axe set up

[placid fiber]

I got rewarded for... being the backround character of that run >.<'

The side kick's side kick...

the chump...

x.x

[hallow summit]

i mostly ask to see if im doing things wrong

[placid fiber]

Like literally just 1 of the 2 zealots and the vet were doing everything I would have been doing so I was like... the back-up this time instead of a team player >.<'

It felt weird

[spare talon]

...what?

On zealot?

[vast basin]

I had the same thought man

[fleet zealot]

activate l1 or activate h1 depending on mark (mk15 vs mk3) is very good

on low crit chance builds this is really good on eviscerator for consistency

if you are investing into blazing piety and scourge, tbh i'd rather just go shred cause you'll be critting most of the time

[fleet zealot]

not puncture DA weird combo

DA wants surgical everytime

puncture wants surgical or lethal proximity for nade boosting/cqc

[vast basin]

Hey tell that to Dorn man

[fleet zealot]

dorn, more like dork

[paper harness]

yes

[fleet zealot]

Unless something changed, DA only procs it's damage boost if both prereqs are met, crit and weakspot

and bistols base crit chance is pretty bad, even if you slap on piety and scourge

[paper harness]

scourge

[fleet zealot]

yes even then, it's half the time

[hearty nebula]

hai

stinkies

[fleet zealot]

if you go piety scourge you can partial charge surgical and get a crit with DA everytime

[paper harness]

puncture useful

[fleet zealot]

then go puncture surgical or puncture lethal prox if you aren't going throwing knives

unless there is another assail tier bug with puncture going around

[paper harness]

surgical not needed on the weapon at all

[naive stirrup]

me running puncture lethal prox for my crusher

[fleet zealot]

^ that to

25% bigger crusher booms

[naive stirrup]

i still hate that i can stack scourge with just the 5% crit chance plus fury

[paper harness]

I only play I-II type maelstroms

[fleet zealot]

i mean that's right, i don't run surgical on either of my bistols

[naive stirrup]

I-II
3VEG

[fleet zealot]

but what BP needs both puncture dot AND DA bonus damage

that can't be hit with surgical + 1 of the above

[hard nexus]

only if you have crits from weapon specialist or true aim

[paper harness]

why would i pick surgical when i can 2 mag a boss hip firing

[hard nexus]

even then it’s kinda eh

[fleet zealot]

i guess that's fair cause I use my other stuff to boss kill xd

[spare talon]

On my taxe build I'm unironically using my bolter against beasts to shatter bleed them when I can't directly do a shitty 1v1 against them

[naive stirrup]

FUCK burgles

[hard nexus]

same

[paper harness]

finally a real plus 3

[vast basin]

BoNs are the most boring boss and should be deleted

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[fleet zealot]

i don't think many new/learning players will be blasting bosses in the face 16 times tho

i like my puke puppies

https://tenor.com/view/gag-gagging-gif-21711851

[nimble fiber]

pan

[fleet zealot]

i think they'd need a rework cause of how polarizing they are depending on location

but I do like how they are nontypical monstro fight

[placid fiber]

Huh... with t4 uncanny the light 1 of the deimos does 900 damage to a crusher on the heashot... but with the warp heavy it only does 1.3k damage... and leaves me vulnerable for a bit lol

This warp attack fucking sucks >_<'

I might as well just go play my 1st zealot or my vet instead >.>

[stone fern]

ultra instinct right here

[fleet zealot]

how much does h2 do 🙂

[placid fiber]

Well with 0 uncanny it did 900 to a mauler headshot iirc, I've already swapped characters lol

[fleet zealot]

i'm just meme'ing that the deimos h2 is a nuke

[placid fiber]

Yeah the light 1 does like... 400 damage with no uncanny stacks to a crusher/mauler headshot

[spare talon]

#zealot-class message
After this I say in chat "I fucking hate beast of nurgles"

[stone fern]

@paper harness spawns worked for once in exise vault

we had little HP and little ammo all game shit was hype

[visual stream]

how about four

[stone fern]

i am like 60% sure you need rating 410 at least

[ornate bone]

french people seeing a beast of nurgle

[south grove]

anyone on?

[rotund shoal]

just woke up

i need to get some food though b4 stuff closes

[rotund shoal]

enlightenment

nobody who plays enough deimos ever uses the warp attack

its just l1 h2 always

and l spam in hordes

mixed hordes still l1 h2

[hard nexus]

insane clutch

zed commentary is peak

i wonder if he’s in this server

also yeah hate burgles

[paper harness]

@fleet zealot he is game banned

btw

[fleet zealot]

🤷

[paper harness]

prob on a two weeker

[fleet zealot]

i'm not antagonizing him, i'll send him on a wild goose chase

malicious compliance

also who tf is revelace xd

and why do they want to be banned

[naive stirrup]

400 is enough

[south grove]

what happened?

[misty nova]

General chat shenanigans

[stone fern]

r u sure?

[vague depot]

What version of the braced autogun do I use

[stone fern]

did they fix the stam bug?

[stone fern]

theyre all kinda similar enough with dps just find the one that you like best

[vague depot]

Fair enough

[rotund shoal]

(agripinaa)

[stone fern]

i use agri but i mainly use it for clearing trash

[rotund shoal]

agri cuz it has cleave

CLEAVE!!

[stone fern]

i think columnbus has better armor damage on elites tho

[vague depot]

All I got rn is grais and vrakz

[stone fern]

you can change marks

[vague depot]

Vraks looks like it does more damage and has more ammo

[rotund shoal]

highest damage is agrip

[vague depot]

Don’t have enough mastery for that

[rotund shoal]

there was a bug where switching marks in the psykhanium

[misty nova]

Braced auto?
Graia IV because brrrr

[rotund shoal]

would give you the same fire rate but different damage

im getting dominos anyone want anything?

[fossil crag]

@rotund shoal are you free rn 👀

[fossil crag]

im helping a friend do hard mode karnak twins and we need 2 more

[rotund shoal]

im getting dominos and buying more beer

free in like 35min

[fossil crag]

get metoer

[rotund shoal]

whats that

[fossil crag]

my fav one with bbq sauce

[rotund shoal]

aaah

[fossil crag]

its in the menu

[rotund shoal]

oh Meator

[vague depot]

What gun do you like to bring with combat axe

[rotund shoal]

i cant find it but close enough

[rotund shoal]

any

combat axes have no weaknesses

[vague depot]

Aight

[stone fern]

revolver bolter or boltgun sare good options imo

[vague depot]

Perks and blessings for caxe?

[rotund shoal]

brutal momentun/headtaker

and flak maniac or smth

i dunno the breakpoints doesnt matteer that much it just chops through everything

[vague depot]

Got it

When do I use the special attack

[rotund shoal]

on caxes you dont

you just l spam

[vague depot]

Just swing away?

Lmao

[rotund shoal]

yeah thats why ppl say braindead weapons

and h for stagger

mostly for crushers

push attack on antax is good iirc

not rashad

[misty nova]

Push Attack with 1 stack of Headtaker on the Rashad staggers 3 dreg ragers

[paper harness]

It is the second most brain dead weapon in the game

Ds5 even more so

[stone fern]

yes just mash m1

if you see bulwarks, crushers, reapers, bosses do heavy attacks

[vague depot]

What other enemies should I use heavy on besides crushers

Oh ok

[green horizon]

ATTENTION REJECTS! I'm looking to recruit some fellow Warhammer 40k rejects to my company in Starship troopers extermination. Let's show them bugs how rejects fight!! If you're interested message me!

[stone fern]

you can inspect the weapon and check damage tables

[vague depot]

Idk how to explain it but the way my character swings the caxe feels different than the other melee weapons I used

[rotund shoal]

you dont really learn how to fight anything with a rashad cuz your strategy never changes

face horde

press m1

fotf ragers

[vague depot]

It feels like they’re swinging like they have personal beef with whatever is being attacked

[rotund shoal]

win

[stone fern]

do push attacks every once n a while

prime example

dont run away from bulwarks like i did tho you just need to wait for them to attack then attack

[vague depot]

The double shotgun kill with one swing was sick

[stone fern]

ye the weapon is kinda overtuned but stupid fun to use

[vague depot]

Can I bring this into damnation or should I just level it up in diff 3

[sinful maple]

that'll work

[vast basin]

When BM worked on Ogryn enemies you could one hit 4 reapers with one heavy on the Caxe

[stone fern]

its fine

[vague depot]

Felt like the damage against crushers was a bit lacking

[sinful maple]

i usually take greys into dam lol

[vague depot]

God I need more dia

[sinful maple]

I wondered why it felt a bit lacking

used to 1 shot crushers with heavy and a dodge

[misty nova]

Me with low HP on persona

[hushed knoll]

Isn't persona like a piano rhythm game

[south grove]

you can but you'll perpetually be at -5 dodges

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-13134027

[hushed knoll]

I'm guessing no then

[vast basin]

That's like saying "isn't nier like, a bullet hell?"

[north sedge]

isn't mortal kombat a cozy farming sim

[south grove]

perks on thammer?

finally picking one up

[visual stream]

If it's ironhelm you want carapace and flak

[north sedge]

cara/unyielding/flak

unyielding is more of a "make the monster die even faster" deal

[sour oxide]

Allor

[north sedge]

though you can special light kill bulwarks

and reapers

anyway shame they nerfed the unyielding dmg lol

[wraith cipher]

i mean they turned it from alike 2-3 shot to 4-5

its not that bad

maybe like 10 more seconds

[strange cairn]

do you still need

[faint vapor]

mortal kombat is a stardew ripoff

[sour oxide]

I wanna do twins rawr

[visual stream]

A chastise'd, thrust'd, and IJ'd H3 still does a whole third of a BoN or Spawn's health bar

Still very gud

[north sedge]

you can still 2-3 shot

[wraith cipher]

in a perfect world

but sometimes your charges are down

sometimes you have to chase them around

so ttk spefically

[north sedge]

i mean that was still applicable before

[wraith cipher]

varies a lot

[north sedge]

only thing that changed is that fucking overhead when fighting a dh

[obsidian ore]

do you need help still or no

[wraith cipher]

so what im saying is that ttk increased because of the nerf but its pretty negligible

[hard nexus]

i summoned hamdol

[south grove]

errrrrr

[north sedge]

i dont think it really was in any noticable fashion

everything you just said was stuff that happened before too

[wraith cipher]

we're agreeing

so

[wraith cipher]

i dunno

[north sedge]

it might be noticable more on ironhelm? dunno i dont use it

on crucis its pretty much the same

[vague depot]

Should I heavy or light a mutant with caxe

[fossil crag]

we just finished it

[north sedge]

light still feels faster from what little i've used rashad

[visual stream]

Feels more or less the same to me honestly, just a slight bump down

[rotund shoal]

nice

i just came back with the pizza and beer lol

whats the strat btw

i never did it myself

[visual stream]

I don't even run PtU or unyield and I get really good boss damage

[rotund shoal]

iirc it was flamers

• knife (i guess ds now?)

[wraith cipher]

i think they changed it to where heavy is applicable on maniacs

[rotund shoal]

yeh

[wraith cipher]

and not before when its preferred to use light

[north sedge]

they did, but lights still faster, at least it was on my vet

[wraith cipher]

i mean theyre light attacks lol

[north sedge]

dont have rashad on zealot so never seen it

[wraith cipher]

fast as fuck boiiii

[shy kestrel]

What blessings go on Evis?

[hard nexus]

which mark?

they differ significantly

well

sorta significantly

[shy kestrel]

Hmm. III

Curious what the diff is though

[hard nexus]

mk3 wants savage sweep rampage,

mk15 wants rampage bloodthirsty/shred

[vague depot]

Rampage bloodthirsty on mk15 iirc

[hard nexus]

yarp

[rotund shoal]

i love how everyone in this chat has activation words

[hard nexus]

is mine evis

[rotund shoal]

yes

here let me try something

[sly pebble]

best blessings on a crucis thunder hammer?

[north sedge]

i trigger on 'banana'

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

[north sedge]

thrust slaughterer or headtaker

[hard nexus]

thrust slaughterer/headtaker

ur too slow

[acoustic dune]

wowzer lads

[shy kestrel]

Is any one of them considered preferable these days?

[hard nexus]

it’s so bad i’m contemplating writing an evis guide

[wraith cipher]

be funny haha and do momentum and never use a special heavy attack

[north sedge]

it's which moveset/focus you prefer

[vague depot]

Mk15 is more simple to use and I think does more damage on heavy swings

[tame mirage]

chaxe...

[hard nexus]

mk15 is better in most situations, but the mk3 is much more fun and can do just as well in good hands

[vague depot]

Light attacks are all sweeps and heavy is all overhead

Kinda bland but it does the job

Mk3 is for style points and that’s all I can come up with

[gentle crag]

For non-matyrdom zealot, what curious should I be going for? +toughness x2 and +stamina? or +health x2 and +stamina?

[shy kestrel]

Yeah tbh Mk 15 is kinda boring to use. I mean it is the exe sword

[hard nexus]

i take 3 toughness, some people take 2 toughness 1 health, some take 2 toughness 1 stam

[acoustic dune]

i do a 1 toughnesss 2 stam

[wraith cipher]

easiest is x3 tough

[hard nexus]

but you usually want 2 toughness at least

[wraith cipher]

i do x2 tough 1 stam

[tame mirage]

this

[shy kestrel]

Why do you guys need so much stam lol

[gentle crag]

And resistance to gunners/snipers?

[wraith cipher]

but 1 stam with a grain of salt

[tame mirage]

I LOVE STAMINA

[acoustic dune]

i run of cocain

inf push

[wraith cipher]

because unless your weapon has a broken push attack or you push attack a lot its not really worth it

[acoustic dune]

so i can panic push the pox burster

[hard nexus]

mk15 has better single target but slow horde clear due to damage caps, mk3 has worse single target but better anti elite packs and generalist use

[hard nexus]

fun

and push attacks

[acoustic dune]

we zealot really like our push attack

[hard nexus]

stamina is actually bad though, if you take desperation

and mk3 evis builds always want desperation

[wraith cipher]

all current gen zealots are second founding from the knife chapter lolol

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-dry-heave-vomit-gross-eww-gif-23254758

[hard nexus]

oh yeah i forgot u think going to zero stam is bad

ha ha

stinker

[acoustic dune]

gotta love that zero stam perk

free proc

[hard nexus]

i need to do some testing regarding mk3 evis horde clear times

using h1 L L L vs PA L

[shy kestrel]

Thought you said Mk 15 is better in most situations, how is Mk3 generalist use?

[hard nexus]

mk15 is just slow

it’ll kill everything you need it to

but it’ll take some time

[shy kestrel]

H1 L isn't in the running?

[hard nexus]

no, H1 has terrible cleave damage

[shy kestrel]

So would you say Mk15 is overall better in capable hands?

[north sedge]

better horde clear

[hard nexus]

first to second target has a 0.33 damage multiplier on unrevved h1

on a flak shotgunner it’s 525 to 175 damage

which is terrible

i have the graph somewhere in this chat

[hard nexus]

eh, depends

i can do very well with a mk3 and a mk15

[obsidian ore]

@hard nexus duo time

[hard nexus]

i don’t know if i’d say one is explicitly better than the other, at least in my opinion

but to players less familiar with the game, the mk15 will be easier to use

[shy kestrel]

I see so what is the best horde clear combo? PA L1 is obviously simplest

[hard nexus]

i’m eating french fries :(

[obsidian ore]

rip

[hard nexus]

yeah basically, or H1 L L PA L L H1 repeat

[opaque tangle]

Preferred blessings for eviscerator, go

[hard nexus]

which evis

[hard nexus]

in a minute maybe

[shy kestrel]

Go up a few messages, this was answered a few minutes ago

[opaque tangle]

The first one

[hard nexus]

i really need 2 write an evis guide

[opaque tangle]

Not the overhead one

[hard nexus]

mk3? savage sweep rampage

[obsidian ore]

rev it up + momentum

[shy kestrel]

Ain't no way I'm remembering that

[hard nexus]

i will kill you

[shy kestrel]

Too much mental overload

[rotund shoal]

wrath + shred actually

[wraith cipher]

once you do the string its pretty intuitive, to go the meat grinder

[hard nexus]

first heavy attack, then do two lights (horizontal lights), push attack, light, then one more light to reset your combo back to H1

because h1 comes out much faster when it’s a combo starter

opposed to mid combo

[hard nexus]

explode

immediately

shred isn’t terrible tbh

but still

grrrr

[obsidian ore]

momentum + opportunist

[wraith cipher]

my evis is better

[hard nexus]

does evis actually get opportunist

[rotund shoal]

yeh

[hard nexus]

i never really paid attention to that blessing

oh

[obsidian ore]

yeah lmao

[hard nexus]

does it proc during rev attacks?

[obsidian ore]

never ever used it

on eviscerator

[hard nexus]

yeah neither have i lol

[obsidian ore]

lemme test

[hard nexus]

thanks

[rotund shoal]

somebody in this chat was testing it

but i cant recall the answer

so whatever

[hard nexus]

we can duo in a bit if u wanna

[obsidian ore]

lemme test this first

[hard nexus]

as long as u don’t use smite

[obsidian ore]

lmao no

[hard nexus]

kk

[obsidian ore]

I aint gon use it

[hard nexus]

i’m still eating fries

[hard nexus]

yippee!

[fleet zealot]

the best case for new oppurtunist would be like

[shy kestrel]

Huh I must be doign something wrong

[fleet zealot]

mk4 chaxe lights but

not having double power sucks ass

[hard nexus]

how so

[fleet zealot]

it will basically only matter for curshers

[wraith cipher]

guys i actually am gated by gold now and its so easy to farm

[hard nexus]

yeah

troo

[shy kestrel]

the H1 comes out as overhead

[wraith cipher]

no longer days of platsteel starvation

[fleet zealot]

that's mk15

not mk3

[vast basin]

Does that smaul special stun count as a staggered enemy for skull crusher?

[hard nexus]

lemme get a clip for u

[shy kestrel]

nvm

[rotund shoal]

you are on the mk15 then lol

[shy kestrel]

Got it

[hard nexus]

ohg

[shy kestrel]

Must have been a tad too slow on it

[fleet zealot]

i don't believe so, stun and stagger is two different things from what i was told

[hard nexus]

yah maybe

[hard nexus]

@obsidian ore

he knows

[shy kestrel]

ok yeah it's not that hard

[hard nexus]

yah

mk3 is underrated as a combo weapon

tbh

i just

LET ME BE A PLAYTESTER!!!

PLEASE

I CAN FIX THE EVIS

the evis is so weird

[shy kestrel]

The Evis needs fixing?

[obsidian ore]

Stun effect needs to put the enemy into stagger animation for opportunist to proc on stun effect

[storm elm]

My dumbass wondering why I'm not doing any damage to big targets with my Heavy Sword:

My Heavy Sword, with Flak, Maniac, Rampage and Wrath:

[hard nexus]

it has some really weird properties, such as damage cap, h1 not latching onto stunned enemies, terrible cleave damage on h1

it’s a very strange weapon

[shy kestrel]

Hmm I see

[obsidian ore]

from what I can tell if the special puts the enemy into stagger anim rest of the shred gets rending

[hard nexus]

it’s a relic of older days, and it hasn’t really been changed in a while

[obsidian ore]

doesn't work on important targets tho

[hard nexus]

ah

unfortunate

[obsidian ore]

ill be back in a bit

[shy kestrel]

Yeah I've been playing since the start

It's definitely weird just in that the moveset of the Mk3 is odd as hell

[hard nexus]

i like the moveset

i want it to stay

[shy kestrel]

Idk what you mean by 'combo' weapon. It's literally just a weapon with weird strings you need to do to make the most of it.

[hard nexus]

yeah

combos

lol

crusher is the same way

if you want to get the most out of a crusher, you need to learn combos

[shy kestrel]

Right but combos kinda implies you get more value than usual

[hard nexus]

yeah

and you do

[shy kestrel]

Here it's not that, it's just
If you want as much value as other weapons, you have to do specific strings

It's not more value than other weapons because you learned a combo

[hard nexus]

i get what u mean i guess

[vast basin]

This can go both ways tbh

[rotund shoal]

its more fun

[zinc talon]

as can your mother

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[shy kestrel]

Sure

[rotund shoal]

if you know what youre doing you can be chopping a horde and perfectly throw an overhead into an elite/specials head

[vast basin]

Yes.

[rotund shoal]

it makes more sense after a lot of time spent playing the game

you get bored after a while of just pressing the same buttons

want to do fancy stuff

[shy kestrel]

I have like 500 hours in V2 and 300 here in DT so I do get what you mean

[rotund shoal]

yah then you get it

[shy kestrel]

I just kinda wish the Evis (Mk3) would reward the relatively high skill floor

But it doesn't at all really. There's a higher skill floor with no reward for it

[fleet zealot]

you got any games on your phone?

[rotund shoal]

i guess yes. also the existence of weapons which outperform it completely despite requiring no skill is kind of a bummer.

[shy kestrel]

Exactly

[vast basin]

The reward is not falling asleep when you use the weapon

[spare talon]

This customer constantly passing me regardless where I am as I replace price tags
And he leaves a stench trail that lingers for like 10 seconds everywhere he goes that is vile

[shy kestrel]

Sure but I would have liked an extrinsic motivation as well

[hard nexus]

i actually cant really tell

how much better PA L is

[fleet zealot]

get the hose

[hard nexus]

compared to h1 L L PA L L h1

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/water-jet-in-the-face-car-wash-dumb-getcha-ya-gif-16328366

[sullen forge]

just had my First TK from a teammate killing me from a flamer pack

[hard nexus]

the difference seems to be pretty minimal

[sullen forge]

led to the entire team getting wiped lmao

[hard nexus]

peak

[sullen forge]

The Assail shard perfectly hitting the flamer pack right when im meleeing them

and instantly getting killed

[fleet zealot]

yea don't rush flamers when assail is on your team

it homes in on tanks for some reason

[sullen forge]

followed with said Psyker immediately getting domed in the head by a sniper

[fleet zealot]

[hard nexus]

probably because its considered a weakspot

[fleet zealot]

maybe? but i think it's just cause assail likes to curve around and the tanks all have a spot sticking up at the back of the head

[frosty herald]

Put agility on ironhelm

[sly pebble]

which stat do you prefer to have low on the thunder hammer?

[fleet zealot]

defenses

[rotund shoal]

finally a based reddit post

next to some guy bragging about getting ASS

lel

[wraith cipher]

thats how i know someone is new

cause everyone tried that during launch

shit sucked

[pine glacier]

the rump or the tism

[flint birch]

I had one more Auric Maelstrom to complete the survivor penance and a zealot killed a poxburster that launched me off the map at the end of Hab Dreyko. End my suffering.

[rotund shoal]

tism

[pine glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cars-movie-mater-aw-dang-dang-dang-it-gif-2382149005641120105

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1290875887910129674/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2024-08-03_3-03-36_AM.mp4?ex=670d369a&is=670be51a&hm=6310d59e85474109b7a8fb9ca120c86e6c2ffb29544344add4cc5c1bd3826c9b&

I love this video

[rotund shoal]

i was begging for it to end with the mauler overheading the guy

[south grove]

I made my least favourite NV character

[sage river]

I've seen that guy before! I dont know his name

💀

[south grove]

you don't wanna know about him

[south grove]

"the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull and the bear and the bull"

[pine glacier]

bull and bear disapprove

[sage river]

Lightfall sucked in retrospect

Sucked during it too

[south grove]

courier it's your fault courier

[spring storm]

thunderhammer blessings? 👉👈😳

[south grove]

thrust/slaughterer/headtaker

[pine glacier]

he also shits on my favorite NV character, so he's gon die every time

[south grove]

take your combo outta that

[pine glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-new-vegas-ed-e-my-beloved-gif-1075299561463654145

[sage river]

I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM I HATE HIM SO MUCH OH MY GOD I HATE HIM

[obsidian prairie]

I somehow already know what this is

[sage river]

SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

[obsidian prairie]

I regret everything

[sage river]

I HATE HIS VOICE SO MUCH

[south grove]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-glass-deku-izuku-midoriya-realistic-gif-5950495279688466417

[hollow vector]

So whats the general consensus on the mark 4 dueling sword dump stat, mobility or cleave?

[spare talon]

Nimbus should have died instead of Rohan
Not only would I not have to hear from nimbus anymore
But it would be more interesting and less cliche for the mentor to have to accept and overcome his apprentices death

[vast basin]

[sage river]

Real

[spare talon]

But nope
More mcu jokes for you

[stone fern]

this isnt a branx.....

[obsidian prairie]

@spare talon

I have made some very poor decisions

[spare talon]

Lmao

I still haven't continued

I had a darktide urge last night instead

[obsidian prairie]

oh yeah final tier archetypes still get worse

Soul hacker has some questionable shit

[hard nexus]

:(

[wraith cipher]

Not a fan of the sweeping angle and time of swing delay 😭

[south grove]

I found it hard to get into destiny 2 ngl

the lore didn't make sense

[spare talon]

When did you try getting into it

[south grove]

like a year ago

[spare talon]

That checks out completely

[vague depot]

What’s the difference between infantry and vigilant autogun

[south grove]

burnt out immediately after like

4 hours of play time?

[spare talon]

Full auto vs semi-auto or burst fire

[vague depot]

Ah ok

[south grove]

idk I just stood in place and shot at things for 4 hours for gear

I think

I tried getting the lore but I can't grasp at it at all

[hollow vector]

I got burnt out after witch queen dropped lol

[spare talon]

New player experience after some very poor decisions for the game has been awful

[hollow vector]

Beyond Light was great

but Witch Queen kinda felt 😴

also burnout from trying to get a FUCKING VEX MYTHICLAST

I HATE VAULT OF GLASS I HATE VAULT OF GLASS

[spare talon]

So you didn't have a real direction in what to do cuz the game never gave you a direction
It had so much shit to do, but most of it is tied to expansions
Anything in the free to play is just playlist activities that don't really make sense to do as a free to play

[south grove]

so lemme guess

I have to buy expansions to have fun

[storm elm]

Just pulled off my first clutch

Damnation, map with the elevator and power cells at the end - entire team got killed by Bulwarks and Shotgunners when we're almost at the elevator. I killed about four Bulwarks, three Shotgunners, two Gunners who showed up behind me, booked it to the elevator and killed a Rager between me and the rescue point

Had to sacrifice some Scriptures but it was worth it, and boy oh boy that last man standing music had me spooked

[light adder]

nice

[rotund shoal]

gratz and you will chase this feeling for the rest of your darktide experience

[spare dome]

man, the last stand music in vermintide 2 was deffo better, more heroic. guess they were going for a spookier mood with this one but it just aint the same

not that clutches are any less intense for it

[spare talon]

That's why I play my own music

[storm elm]

I almost didn't make it, too; Until Death was on CD and I had 59 health left with no toughness
Nabbed a fallen teammates medi-pack before I went to the elevator and healed on the way down

[storm elm]

Oh you know it

[light adder]

i play with music turned off, i'll have to see if its on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmOkEEdNf88

this?

[lapis cave]

love VT music, but DT music is on another level

[spare dome]

its really only the last stand music where i can say VT2 did it better

on the whole VT2 OST is also fantastic but yeah DT is greater than that somehow

[lapis cave]

which one is the last stand music? Where in a mission would I hear it play?

or what's the soundtrack title?

[storm elm]

When you're the only one alive

[spare dome]

you have to literally be the last man

https://youtu.be/CiKiUb5sMK8?si=lfQHWhrcFJeYnRvU

[lapis cave]

oh hahaha yeah

[spare dome]

same as in darktide you usually never hear it or you don't hear it for long lol

[lapis cave]

man, that music brings back only bad memories lololol

[light adder]

thats some good stuff

[lapis cave]

it really is

the VT soundtrack is great though. I love h9wo this composer has such a unique voice

[rotund shoal]

did yall see the spacex booster catch?

gave me shivers

[spare dome]

jesper kyd has been knocking it out of the park for decades

[hearty nebula]

well

[spare talon]

Not necessarily
The expansions are just "more destiny"
So just fucking around with all the stuff that's free can give you an idea if you like the gunplay, abilities, and general loot chase enough to play "more destiny"

[rotund shoal]

https://x.com/kimbal/status/1845451222750306344

𝙺𝚒𝚖𝚋𝚊𝚕 𝙼𝚞𝚜𝚔 🤠 (@kimbal) on X

Booster starts in top right corner. Watch to the end. Sound on

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 1:07 PM

[south grove]

ahhh

might start it again

dunno though

darktide is my main focus for now

[spare dome]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuJonyx9Zuo

[spare talon]

Iirc jesper kyd is Mick Gordon's favorite composer

[south grove]

chopsticks

tasty

[hearty nebula]

I wouldn't doubt it

their music (albiet different genre typically) has a lot of similarities composition-wise

[spare dome]

darren korb is up there for me too

bit of a slow rise there

[hushed knoll]

Korb means basket in German

[spare dome]

basket of tasty beats

[hushed knoll]

I didn't quite get that

Did you mean;

Tasty beets?

[spare dome]

no ur thinking of the famous band, the Beetles

[rotund shoal]

what the fuck

[hushed knoll]

I don't like the Beetles

[rotund shoal]

thats not takeoff*

its descending into it

[spare dome]

i mean

if it stops and it didnt explode

its a landing

[rotund shoal]

a rocketship the size of a building slowly manuevering into a fking basketball hoop

[spare dome]

imagine if we still funded NASA

[pine glacier]

peak #zealot-class chat

[hushed knoll]

Smeef sounds like a verb

[rotund shoal]

NASA has been government'd for a long while

[hushed knoll]

[pine glacier]

thats what i was going for

[hushed knoll]

What happens when you smeef

[pine glacier]

you lose the game

[south grove]

what should I run with thammer

[hushed knoll]

What game

[south grove]

tryna get the mastery

[pine glacier]

exactly

[hushed knoll]

Do you mean THE game?

If so, you lost too

[pine glacier]

if you have to ask

[south grove]

lalalalala I can't read

[pine glacier]

brother, the name is smeef, i never won

[rotund shoal]

tintin im logging in

[hushed knoll]

Tinnitus you lost

[rotund shoal]

we can do some runs

[hushed knoll]

I mean tintin

[copper hawk]

Yorps your slorp

[south grove]

lalalalala I can't read

lalalalala I can't read

lalalalala I can't hear you

[south grove]

cica

what do I run with thammer

I'm bored

[rotund shoal]

agri brauto

[copper hawk]

Tintin idk

Whatever makes u die the least

[spare talon]

Piety and the fastest firing infantry lasgun

[copper hawk]

[rotund shoal]

anyone joining me and tintin?

[north sedge]

Stan can you share your psyker's soupblaze build

[pine glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-flamer-heresy-purge-warhammer40k-lightning-claws-gif-16488791

[north sedge]

You speccing into tortilla soup or something more exotic like a pho or ramen

[hushed knoll]

WTF

[hushed knoll]

[hushed knoll]

It's my phone

[spare dome]

soupblaze

[hushed knoll]

I mispelled it once and it thought it was what I wanted

[rotund shoal]

do you want a trauma soulblaze build? @north sedge

[south grove]

what combos better with thrust

[north sedge]

no, soupblaze

not soul

look at the screenshot!

[rotund shoal]

i bet stan doesnt eat soup with a spoon

only tacos

[spare dome]

stan probably eats soup with a straw

[left path]

Combat blade dump stat? finesse?

[spare dome]

and then pours all the solids directly into his mouth by tilting the bowl

[rotund shoal]

sentences by deranged people

mobility

[spare dome]

saying "this is the best part" and making slopping slurping sounds

[left path]

Thanks, who you calling deranged? lol

[copper hawk]

Tanner

[rotund shoal]

finesse is most important stat besides damage

[left path]

Ok haha, had no idea

[rotund shoal]

honestly all of them are important actually

mobility least cuz dodge distance already crazy

[south grove]

no

wrong

damage dump

lacerate flesh tearer

[rotund shoal]

tanner brained

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1294784277913010217/attachment.gif

[hushed knoll]

[hushed knoll]

Spoons are for nachos not tacos

[vague depot]

Combat axe heavy or light spam on maulers

[hushed knoll]

If you do overhead you're hitting carapace

[south grove]

heavy on carapace

[vague depot]

Ok

[south grove]

light on flak

[hushed knoll]

You lost the game

[vague depot]

Where can I see what enemy has what armor again

[south grove]

I can't read lalalalalalalala

[scenic dawn]

psykanium

[south grove]

go into the psykanium

[hushed knoll]

Too late

[south grove]

shoot at them

[vague depot]

Alright

[south grove]

I can't read lalalalalalalala

I can't read lalalalalalalala

@rotund shoal ready

[hushed knoll]

Too late

[rotund shoal]

https://imgur.com/a/AR0Nxo4

[south grove]

I cannae read

[hushed knoll]

Are you Scottish

[south grove]

tarkov ass chart

[spare talon]

Jokes aside I run headtaker

[south grove]

should I even run thrust?

people seems to not like it

[scenic dawn]

dreg ragers, mutants, unarmored ogryns and shield ogryns are generally unyielding, armored ragers, crushers (helm is carapace), scab gunners, scab soldiers, scab shotgunners are flak armored, pox walkers, cultists, dreg soldiers, pox bombers and pox hounds, snipers, are infested or unarmored, and bulwarks are carapace, those are the enemies i remember

[vast basin]

Dreg Ragers and muties are maniacs

[scenic dawn]

ah

forgot that was a dmg type

[vast basin]

Same with trappers

[scenic dawn]

i was close

[vast basin]

Many of the enemies are mixed aswell

Bulwarks are unyielding but have carapace shoulders

[scenic dawn]

yeah, dreg soldiers are unarmored with flak face shields

[vast basin]

Dreg gunners are flak but have unarmored heads

[spare talon]

Thrust is mandatory for activated swings

[scenic dawn]

not that my combat axe cares, axe go bonk

[spare talon]

It's literally the best thing on thammer

[vague depot]

Oh thanks

What weapon would y’all run with all 3 of the autoguns

[scenic dawn]

what class?

[vague depot]

Zealot

[scenic dawn]

dueling sword, combat knife, evis, thammer, or combat axe is what i would use

[vague depot]

Aight

[sage river]

Do I master the bolter until I can find better?

[vague depot]

It would be nicer if the dump was mobility but this can work just fine

[scenic dawn]

like level mastery to 20?

[sage river]

Somewhere around there

[hearty nebula]

no thanks he's bumpy weird

like @copper hawk

(owned)

[spice bear]

so true

[rotund shoal]

bolter dump stat is collateral

[south grove]

I kinda wanna run hammer and bolter but I feel like that's too mainstream

[south grove]

isn't collat good for pinning fire?

[rotund shoal]

yah but pinning fire isnt very good

used to be op but nerfed a long while ago

shattering/calvacade/puncture/fire frenzy

all better options

[south grove]

shhhhhhh

[obsidian prairie]

@spare talon the rot consumes

[hearty nebula]

no way its bardin

[rotund shoal]

switch pining fire to shattering

for anti crusher/mauler

[grizzled aspen]

I second this, puncture shattering makes for 4shot crusher kills from any distance.

[south grove]

I have another one lol

just kept that one for funsies

[vague depot]

How do I know what vaults to open in the excise vault mission

[spare talon]

Red light active on the door

[vague depot]

There’s no way I never managed to see that

[rotund shoal]

always go left cuz the first vault will be there

and theres always at least one vault on each floor

so if theres two up you know the 3rd ones down

i think theres more rules to the pattern but i never investigated too closely

[vocal pulsar]

@fakesmurfing

this is my silly build

[rotund shoal]

once again maybe talking out of my ass but theres a specific vault in the downstairs area which seems to have the capsule more often than not

but mission seeds in general seem to be weird in ways i cant explain

[south grove]

where we dropping john

do we wait for the refresh?

[rotund shoal]

whats the timer on it?

[copper hawk]

wut

[south grove]

few more sec

alr refreshed

there's a HISTG carnival

[copper hawk]

what if instead of vacuum capsule

it was

[rotund shoal]

lets do mercantile histg i like mercantile

[copper hawk]

freaky cpasule..,

[rotund shoal]

gimme a sec tho

[vague depot]

What perks and relics for infantry autogun

[copper hawk]

wym

[vague depot]

Perks and blessings

I’m mentally cooked idk why

[south grove]

alr alr

[rotund shoal]

what if instead of vacuum capsule it was vacuum capsule but spammed 100x timmes per match?

[hearty nebula]

[hearty nebula]

bumpy weird

[south grove]

https://tenor.com/view/shinji-evangelion-devil-may-cry-hair-hand-gif-4271964701858845682

[hearty nebula]

I'd just bludgeon him to death

Simple as

[south grove]

I need music recc

bored

[hearty nebula]

what genres you like

[copper hawk]

this is awful

lmfao

poor girl

[south grove]

anything

[hearty nebula]

actually i don't care what genres you like i'm just using this an excuse to post my playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0g8mmTrSUxIIMwv9gH4GJD

[obsidian ore]

damned na ping

[hard nexus]

listen to we had good times together, dont forget that

[vocal pulsar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikn6Z2fxMs4

[hard nexus]

by sewerslvt

[south grove]

I listen mostly to 50s swing but I can and will listen to anything

[hard nexus]

honestly i did pretty good

methinks

[obsidian ore]

what were you using again

[hard nexus]

crit evis

crit mk3 evis

with blazing piety

[obsidian ore]

strong build, especially if you go perfect strike

you did good

my fav on that is mk15

[fallen prawn]

🤝

[obsidian ore]

because I like spamming qq

but mk3 combos are fairly strong

[hard nexus]

it was savage sweep

shred

flak elites

[obsidian ore]

ditch savage sweep go perfect strike

you'll feel the difference in a crit setup

[fleet zealot]

i can't beleive i watched the whole thing

[copper hawk]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0Mtjq8Q6Z7gPVhqKkUPHtI?si=2f259dda364848b3

[spare talon]

And are you disappointed by the ending

[copper hawk]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0mQlLUtW0JNrYm2amqv7C4?si=eea9e776c53a4db6

[hard nexus]

it just needs damage cap removed

guhh

[copper hawk]

there's ur anything tintin

[hard nexus]

let me be a playtester

[hard nexus]

alright

[obsidian ore]

cleave dmg cap on evis is ass

[hearty nebula]

judging in progress

[hard nexus]

i’ll try it in a bit

[hard nexus]

yeah

i don’t mind it on mk15

due to being able to kill 6 chaff per swing with bloodthirsty

but it’s awful on the mk3

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

awesome tiktok

[rotund shoal]

@spare talon i just did the fotf 100% tdr trick against a burster

ty

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/923847030500114432/1293809874786058322/186e337415a516434-ezgif.com-speed.gif

[spare talon]

It's so awesome and goofy

[hard nexus]

the only issue with crit evis is that there aren’t enough enemies to keep crits up

[copper hawk]

what's the fotf tdr trick

[obsidian ore]

that's why I prefer perfect strike, you already will fulfill the cleave damage cap without any cleave blessings. Your attacks will have infinite cleave and ignore carapace mass, makes eviscerator feel like an eviscerator

[hearty nebula]

the wut trick

[hard nexus]

when in chastise, you have 100% tdr

[hearty nebula]

do you just

[copper hawk]

oh

[hearty nebula]

charge a burster when it leaps?

[copper hawk]

i thought it was something else

sigh..

[hard nexus]

so during chastise, you are immune to almost everything

yah

[copper hawk]

charge a burster right before it explodes

it'll launch u but you'll take no damage

[obsidian ore]

you need to time it well

otherwise it will cancel your dash

[copper hawk]

it's a lot of fun 2 do when u get the timing down

[hearty nebula]

nuh uh

[copper hawk]

since bursters can send u flying

[hearty nebula]

become bird

[copper hawk]

better than a barrel you set off yourself

[obsidian ore]

practice in psykanium, with low ping you can get it %80 of the time

[copper hawk]

it's my new fav thing 2 do in pubs

i throw a knife into a barrel and position myself 2 send myself flying at enemies

[spare talon]

See i can't say shit against this cuz you could use anything and run circles around me in terms of damage no matter how hard I try

[copper hawk]

i feel like a goblin from total warhammer

[hearty nebula]

slayer maxxing

truly the successor to bardin

[spare talon]

You also have to angle it well

[hearty nebula]

right here

[grizzled aspen]

You are a goblin.

[copper hawk]

downvote

[obsidian ore]

naw man all opinions are fair, sometimes even I learn new things about the game

[hearty nebula]

goblin dee-

[spare talon]

You can't have it target an enemy right next yo you and cancel the dash early

[obsidian ore]

perfect strike is only for crit setups for obvious reasons tho

[spare talon]

I had it target a bruiser directly behind me and proceeded to be ledged cuz my dash kept me in place

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1284395010539786303/1284399121960013844/sunaookami-shiroko-.gif

[spare talon]

Fotf targeting something behind you and keeping your in place, or even moving backwards, needs to die

[grizzled aspen]

Just wiped on hab dreyko because two teammates got thrown off the edge by a plogryn.

[hearty nebula]

have they tried not?

[grizzled aspen]

Clearly not.

[hearty nebula]

kill them

[obsidian ore]

If you haven't already, read through this new guide by kuli (vote it 5 stars as well!), you'll learn some new things and clear misconceptions: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3318538305

[spare talon]

OH FUCKING FINALLY

[obsidian ore]

he was cooking for a while, it's out

[spare talon]

So glad kuli has a misc guide

[south grove]

dodge of shame

[spare talon]

It was so rough jumping through tons of sources for info on anything not directly tied to blessings and talents

[hearty nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[obsidian ore]

kuli is %100 reliable for these sources, he fact checks his stuff religiously and uses the code for it as well

[paper harness]

we love kuli

[spare talon]

Yeah I'm not good at finding what I want in the code

[paper harness]

say otherwise and I have a tlam with your name on it

[south grove]

tlam?

[spare talon]

Cuz fatsharks naming and organization is a nightmare to keep up with in the code