#zealot-class
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clean your inventory
i just wanna be a sister of battle with a bigass sword and a bigass flamer...
I have
I havent touched Orthus since it dropped, that's a shame though
if they do they definitely have some sort of brain damage
All my melees are my god rolls
i straight up do not believe you
All my ranged are god rolls
dorn probably did already
there i no way you cleaned 3000 hours in less than 3 weeks 
damn
i haven't read any message except this but i don't believe you either
you actually clean regularly
Bolter/bolt pistol...?
do i look like a space marine
Yeah I like organized inventories
ocd on top of autism so sad 😭
My goal is complete zealot managed inventory then vet
3 of each weapon, 6 if I need it
Does Argenta?
hey thats my wife youre talking about pal
i have a stack of hammers crushers bolters heavy swords and rashads
im done with zealot
Organized
ocd
i cant believe she wasnt romancable owlcat truly hates gay women
Might roll some more knives
thank god bruh
Watch the unluckiest creature on atoma is me,, and millions of other Warhammer 40,000: Darktide videos on Medal, the largest Game Clip Platform.
@hard nexus
Could do with a mk3 uncanny riposte etc
You've got what's her face
Navigator girl
shes straight
the freak
:/
no thanks
yall are so RUDE cassia is gorgeous
i cant say who i ended up with or the inquisition will take me away
jae is bi
@copper hawk is there a vc???
you have for the drip and this is what you're doing with it
i did it better 😌

it's not a mile long dodge roll
so it's basically worthless
every dodge should be a roll the size of untargeted fotf
anyways reheated my patty melt in an air fryer
and god
it's still so good
how tf can buffalo wild wings get away with it
12$ lunch burger includes fries and a drink, or a brioche bacon patty melt meal for 14$
such a good birthday lunch
you can do a lot of stuff with it
make the checkers shiny
I'm sorry about the barrel
The OP's comments are hilarious
thank you sir
I don't understand the po8nt of rolling in dark souls
Also the game is too hard
Dude is able to post on reddit but cannot fathom the idea of not getting hit
health bars is a cheat!!!!
you can't have fun!!!
no mods allowed!!!!!
spider sense is cheating idc if you are deaf
Brb getting a mod that autoplays the auspex parts for me
where was dodge rolling or health bars mentioned
unless you are deaf but yes
dodging in this game feels so smooth and natural that i have to spend an annoying amount of time readjusting my muscle memory for other games
why is every comment more depressing than the last
nah, spidey sense should be in base game
Wish that existed
yerp
what is dump stat on knives?
i LOVE it,,
mobility
Yeah the OP is either trolling or pathetic
mobility
So i got back into Zealot and it has been the first time i have since they reworked the skill trees almost a year back.
it's damage
he's being gatekept out of malice
ANy advice?
damage is dump stat
is fun
yes, bundled in the update that adds uncanny to crusher
knife go br
But how else can you spend 10 minutes doing tree minigame :p
Average QP lobby
DUMP DAMAGE EVERY TIME
hit things with melee
wtf this guy's real?
wat
i thought he was a meme
there's 100% iframes
I refuse to play them
I usually have a grub on mini game
🐬🌈
i'm friends with a psychiatrist
what
i can get him a referral
you can run straight into a sniper and slide/dodge and there are iframes
thats interesting
the shot goes literally right through you
cica
no
you can dodge while being physically stuck, so yes
this explains
should I go shred ramapage or rampage savage sweep
ive only done zealot and psyker
wrong emoji
Gayoji
u know like
because some attacks hit u when u should have i frames because u can code for some attacks to ignore iframes
for honor does this, darktide can too
undodgeable attacks exist
They're called barrels 😎
where we dropping next
all undodgables are grabs
yah this game has i frames
I need to complete clandestium on auric damnation to complete my missions penances
potemkin time
true beauty
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYIN
every projectile in the game should send poxbursters flying, even the enemies
make them bounce around the map
psyker self destruct should friendly fire at the very least
if they fuck up, everyone dies
Friendly fire does not need to be in this game.
1 exe stance vet with a shredder pistol and he will delete your entire team on spawn and alt f4 before you can do anything about it.
toughness damage only??
thoughts on this gif ?
let the crusher overhead deal with it
idk I just want an excuse to kill smykers
i need friendly fire for that guy who runs around at the back hunting 1 poxwalker while everyone else is waiting at the elevator
kill the scoreboard farmers
yeah, definitely hammerpilled now
psyker moment
I had a vet who was doing absolute dogshit earlier spam pinging and kept going down and I'm just like
"you can spam ping when you stop fucking sucking" and he left
It's not rng.
Get a teammate to help you.
Other zealout stuns count.
Takes 5 minutes with a pre-made team.
i have friends!!!!! i swear!!!!!
Honestly bots are better than some players
At least the bots can handle poxwalkers
If you want bots being better than players fuckin look at VT2 bots
VT2 bots are on fucking crack
Indeed
i miss slayer bardin bot
Vt2 bots bouta solo chaos gods
I guess VT2 is why the Darktide bots got toned down
Vt2 bots are actualy well designed
slayer bardin bot was gotrek in disguise
vt2 bots are decent only because they have the host's gear on the class it's using
and perks
Which is nuts considering how much you can customize them
And they will pick shit up when you ping it
And it shows :c
Meanwhile a darktide bot is light attacking with a random devil claw
yeah only vet bots fucking sucks
ya
Hell at least give each bot a random coherency aura from any class
it's because there's no host in dt
it's all dedicated servers
so no custom bots
it will never happen
anyone wanna help me get that penance rq :^) all of my uh friends are uh busy
They could just like. Y'know. Make a default set of bots?
For what you aren't playing?
At least give the bots VoC :c
Whats a good Db build
they will shout and push the poxburster into you
Infiltrate on bots (they will do absolutely nothing useful for 8 seconds and drop all agro onto you)
(and itll be unupgraded shout w/o overshield)
Don't worry, its still better than the average QP player
Voice of Barrel
only friendly fire will redeem darktide mashallah
used to be a tiny bit of it very early on
i thought for sure auric would have it
Ogryn Nuke instant downing teammates when
but nope
It lets me use frag bombs though
VoC now deafens you irl
We shall go on another holy crusade
Smite players when their problems aren’t disappearing in less than 5 seconds from their teammates
well then
cant you onetap hosts with shroud
and hammer
Vent smite is the "meta"
Have you tried with perfectionist, 5 t4 slaughterer stacks, 25% unyielding, desperation, and 6 marty stacks? With t4 thrust as well
And the crucis
I mean with 3 marty stacks, 25% unyielding, chastise, and t4 thrust you can 2 shot heresy hosts
2 billion damage
you'll catch me dead in the bathroom before i play stealth zealot
shroud funni
Well we won’t be able to catch you if you stealth
why does this game have an i need help button instead of Yes/No
also whats your problem with smite
Do people go surgical + crucian or surgical/crucian + hand cannon ? Is hand cannon worth it ?
The fact I need a mod for a y/n button
for the potato salad
fun fact that most is against terms of service
no its not
How would quick chat be against tos?
its not, lol.
yes it is
according to whom?
chat only is fine as far as i know
bruh
Wait, I need help is vanilla ?
all mods that effect others are not allowed
well duh
only client side mods are allowed
you said all mods
what
what
you said 'mods are against tos'
what
They said "most"
oh
Not "mods"
you said no "its not"
they misspelled "mods" as most
this is why we should ban the ESL here

Esl?
Mfw when people are too busy bickering to answer my question
im calling my esl homies to shit in your kabab next time you go have take out
acronym for english second (or nth) language
Oh
Also I usually just go crucian + surgical
of course mods are banned... I mean fun is banned, why wouldn't mods be as well?

Dude, 90% of ESL speak and write a better English than 90% of EFL
That's because we've actually had to learn a foreign language at some point in our lives
English as a language is fucked
you should not beliberal with that info
English fucking sucks, am i rite?
i don't claim to be a good person
im gonna be adding even more typos than usual
i like english
i don't intend to pretend a good person
never said you were good
Let me tell you about my first language honhonhon
Respectfully don’t
True, you're not a person... your a cat
Silent letters
perfect
handcannon is non negotiable
surgical for zarona
this guy
cruician for mk 14
has been smiting EVERYTHING
this
ive got yer handcannon right here
Gendered common nouns
No… queue is enough I don’t need any more words filled to the brim with silent letters
even the 2 bruisers standing by themselves
No…….
Does he at least have enhanced smite? lol
why do so many french people play darktide?
i swear i hear/see french people more than any other nationality in dt
what are good blessings on heavy sword
i only dislike people who can't interpret obvious misspellings or just go in circles arguing because they aren't good enough to articulate people or constantly misinterpret arguments
I wish I would know any of them
you already do this despite seemingly having decent english, so i dislike you already
Isn’t there a French discord server
Because I feel like I'm the only French guy who plays it
headtaker and deathblow are the main 2 in general
Headtaker deathblow for 9, headtaker rampage for the others
There is but I don't think it's very active
my work here is now job
F
That said I muted it because other humans scare me
yappers get the barrel
Nevermind, there's 12 people in VC right now
And ping spammers get the overhead AND barrel
⚠️ You have alerted the human! ⚠️
my favorite voip users are the ones that say FUCK when they die once in the entire game
lol Mine is a different one
But I'm guessing it's because Darktide is centered around nurgle, and seeing how many of my compatriots don't know showers and deodorant, it checks out
wheres meow?
i need a confirmation on frenchstank
It's not as bad as the memes but it's still noticeable
tbh
i think its because everyone smokes
it killed your sense of smell
I was on vacation in Switzerland last weak and I was glad I could breathe
Remember guys...
Thank god my nose barely functions so I will never have to deal with that!
bro is breathmaxxing
Gottem
That I really don't know where it comes from, French people don't smoke more than a lot of countries
Life isn't a Godard movie
For the low low price of 500% of your yearly earnings in 10 years... yes
ive known french a few french people all smoked
the women even out smoked(cigs)
ive never seen female chainsmokers before
how bad is it there jeez
yea
I know, only 50 years worth of earnings... with such low prices, who can argue?
but he was literally just
smiting all game
and he made me miss some knife throws cause of it

We’re poor! We’re poor!
France is number 15 smoking country in the world, which is high, but it's less than Croatia, Bulgaria, Indonesia...
Bro I’ve never seen anyone use that before so for one man to do it 12 times in one game

he needed help alright
I've seen it before, I think...
Kill them
^
he couldn't deal with hordes cause he was too busy smiting
he didn't want to deal with crushers so he used smite
facedesk
triple facedesk
I'd take a smyker over an assailer
Yeah, there's a surge staff smyker
a surge smyker sounds like cancer
At least smite still allows to get psykinetic aura
needler
Nah not the halo needler 
Even though brain rupture is the clear obvious choice
The only way I'd ever take smite is probably if I had a gun lol
even then...
probably not
You know what, I’m going to make a build once a 100% all masteries that literally only uses smite for the heavy attack effect that’s it
Never touching smite
Or using it
I only take smite on my autogun build
I already did it
Literally only nailing it to a build to make a melee stronger
It's fun
Smite is just kinda boring to play so I don’t get why people spam it
Force sword and fire spread with electric attacks
it pauses the game
Smite is only worth taking for psykinetic's aura... when you don't feel like using assail...
they can goon while playing now
Especially since it forces you to rely on teammates to kill stuff
And relying on teammates is how you die

The only time it doesn't is when you get +200% smite damage from enhanced smite and ACTUALLY FUCKING KILL SOMETHING
proper smite just melts everything
but it's equally uninteractive
You still spend like forever smiting them
no
I would use assail sometimes if it didn't prevent you from taking psykinetic aura (my beloved best node in the game)
not much to do except press lmb and move
a properly kitted smite build kills everything below a mauler in less than 8 seconds
1 smite cooks everything with enhanced smite, right?
besides crushers
Then the smite players I’ve seen are fucking worthless
with creeping flames, EP smite can kill everything under a crusher in 8 seconds or less
Never goon
This is a true statement lol
smite is a bait for mercy mains who won't use it properly
What blessings should I take for the fanning revolver (the one that doesn't aim down sights)
Rending one still ofc but what else?
You should use another gun
handcannon+ point blank or crucian
I've seen someone using smite in a way that was beneficial to me... like... 2 times lol
and I"ve seen smite well over 50 times
Appreciate the reply!
i was ready to rev kill a mutant
only for the smyker to stop him in his tracks
classic
Then when you actually hit the mutant it stops revving because you wasted your time
inb4 I surge it, run in and kill it before u can
i haven't tried the agri yet
Which ones which?
Me watching the Thammer zealot get denied a power slam into a crushers skull cause the smyker said it’s smyking time
And what's sad is even the agripinaa revolver is much better than the autopistol lol
Zarona can ADS
Zarona aims
Agri doesn't
and the thammer ends up hitting a poxwalker instead
Agri is actually balanced
Actually, now that I think about it... the 2nd time I think it was "beneficial" to me was just me gulping down an entire copium shake... It was only once, honestly, that it was beneficial to me...
Idk I like being able to aim with a gun
You know
What guns are made for
Yes but the Zarona literally 1 taps everything outside of a monstrosity or crusher
i mean even if they are using smite the right way
it's still really boring to play with
I saw a smite psyker lock down a horde so we can kill a chaos spawn once c:
one just actually kills things
So does the bolt pistol now
Barely acceptable
that's still a fail cause they didn't just melt the horde instead
I have had enough piss poor solo clutches that... unless it fucks me over, I'm probably not gonna bitch about it... even if it doesn't help me
They're trying :c
6 cleave vs 3 cleave
i actually think the number of support main psykers has increased
🤫🧏
And I know this is me coping real hard lol
IMO there's no better way to support your team than to kill stuff
You know it's bad when a slightly competent player makes the game 500% smoother than the shit you've dealt with in the past...
and I mean slightly... like... they didn't die to brutes... praise the emperor!
They know to melee poxwalkers! Wooo...
Man I've had so many bad players... ones that made useless players seem competent...

bro has NO ram
Inside of me are two wolves. One will absolutely destroy an entire mixed horde without taking damage, the other one will die to a random scab melee guy after messing up every push attack.
troo..
@south grove
new thammer came directly from the emperor himself
we need to talk tin tin..
my goodness
Dude... even the latter wolf is drastically more competent than the rejects I've gotten...
And I'm not joking
wtf happened
"nooooo you can't run a suboptimal build in heresy you're ruining my game" vs "level 20 in damnation? I like your spirit reject"
idek
2nd one is DRG in a nutshell
level 4 driller in a hazard 4? I like this greenbeard
level 500's dying faster in malice... than the level 15 in damnation...
Althoug I'll admit in DRG I ask people to be at least player rank 50 because holy hell sometimes I get a random level 3 engineer who joins my hazard 5 speedrun wtf
I mean it's also the same when you do an uprising and a level 30 dies... and you solo clutch with your level 1 character lol
drg is such a chill game i couldn't imagine kicking people unless theyre actively being assholes which never happens
Me too but when it means stopping every 30 seconds to help the guy who can't handle a glyphid swarmer it's annoying
L
Especially when the lobby is clearly marked "SPEEDRUN"
If I'm not speedrunning I'll gladly accept everyone
you guys are playing rn?
Unironically had a level 19 Bullgryn pull his own weight over a Smyker in Auric Damn
He only went down once
Well you said it, smyker
Usually I automatically force myself to recover my dodges when I get to -5 or -6 lol
Perpetual 0% Stamina
That's why I really don't like treating mobility like a dump stat
Come here, Scout, I have a sandwich for you. (2 whole pounds of c4 plastic explosives)
I’ve witnessed that too much lmao
I took 3 +3 stamina but I'm still at 0% stam 50% of the time
I've witness some real shit back when Vet had a much worse stamina regen delay
Vet moment.
and the +3 had sprint eff AND stamina regen
You get used to it
Stamina regen speed and delay fucking sucks on vet.
Like me had 0 stamina holding off all the elites and hordes while the 2 zealots and ogryn died to poxwalkers
60 mobility is the absolute bare minimum for me on a melee weapon
I get in so much trouble because I'm used to zealout/psyker regen speed and delay.
Especially since I took the desperation pill on zealout.
new favorite build
guys
look..
at the abomination i made..
the rest of my chainsword is literally also at 11~ mobility
Free 20% damage for just doing the bare minimum to supplement my moveset.
Especially on melee weapons with pathetic mobility like the psword or the chaxe
I mean just do what I do: Always take 1 -0.25s stamina regen delay talent on Vet
even just 1 makes Vet VASTLY easier to play
This is nothing special.
You're just taking 20% tdr on a piety build instead of faster fury buildup.
I take both because fuck not having stamina.
should I go broke to increase that chainsword's mobility
don't think I can play regular games with 11% mobility
fixed the link
I run 2 12% Stam regen with a gunner resist rest is usually toughness or HP
yah
but nobody uses it
nah. What if you need the ordos later? 
Cause everyone gasses up sniper resist
peakity peak peak..
I’ll be dead serious
It's a bit too low in the tree IMO, I only take it when I go down to the keystone
for what?
If you get shot by a sniper you deserve to take 80% HP
I can't do this anymore
nope
Because fury being built faster is better than some flat tdr.
hard disagree gale
This is what i have been running on my Vet, lately, with the heavy sword and revolver
if you're airborne enemies will always hit you
And you can take 10% more crit chance on top of base piety.
that’s the joke
dropping from a ledge, even if you dodged off it, due to no fault of your own, guarantees you get shot
or getting thrown by a mutant
or launched by anything
glooping
Not taking desperado is INSANE
gloopa
I agree
I do it my way, and fuck everyone else
desperado is necessary
I do listen to the people who know their stuff, but, I still do it my way
What’s desperado again
another “sniper res is trash” truther 🤝
My build is the exact same thing but I dont use the passive in the middle and rending strikes.
10% crit, 25% finesse damage
10% crit chance and 25% weakspot damage for melee iirc.
The holy grail
I mean it really is lol
I mean I could get desperado, but, I just don't have it rn
I'd honestly rather grab krak nades myself >.>
and drop the 10% rending
Desperado + reciprocity
When the vet wants to outmelee the zealot
Meh, I'm here to keep myself alive and use things that I know work for me. I'll probably try desperado instead of 10% rending at some point
I just haven't felt like gaming the past few days
I did contracts for 30 hours straight... kinda burnt myself out a little lol
I finished up my Oggy's contracts, did all 3 level 30 zealot's contracts, and did my Vet's contracts
Also did a couple of my psyker's as well
3 zealot char is insane
what the fuck
I"m honestly thinking about changing my 2nd psyker to a 2nd oggy
What can I say? I really like leveling new characters a while back... <.<'
@south grove Know what's sad tho? My 1st zealot doesn't have a 17% toughness curio... but my 2nd and 3rd do have 17% toughness curios...
do you not farm curios
I just play when I feel like it
I have like 9 copies of each max
I sell stuff when I want dockets too >.>
I'm here to have fun, not get a bajillion of everything
at some point I stopped switching out curios perks every time I need to hop in a certain modifier
iirc I got 3 perfect thammers, 2 perfect flamers, and 4 or 5 perfect caxes in the 30 hours I was doing contracts lol
just better to make one copy for every circumstance rather than switching over and over again
I just focus on whatever lets me have the most fun more than making sure I don't screw myself later <.<
@south grove btw, what are your thoughts on trogdor Link?
Oh God... I can use a sailor moon skin as well in this
It’s a fact if you get shot by a sniper it’s usually a one and done situation unless you’re experiencing Skissue
"snipers" when the 7 smoke grenades in my pockets gets to them
Ogryn I can see why you’d get away with it but again you can still avoid it
Just any human
So far I have a great roster lol
"sad ones" when I have ublock origin
Lmao
I'm sorry what the fuck
@hard nexus @copper hawk I'm sorry ;-;
I'll get better next time
LMFAO it's otay
we did play the hardest map and mode
we're takin a break rn
:3
It made sense if you weren't interested in the other classes and wanted to farm specific blessings from melk/requisition. Now? Not so much.
ngl I'm thinking of starting over my vet after mastering everything
I'm wayyy to high of a level for randoms to think I'm bad at the game
leveling isn't very fun in my opinion
it's better to be lower level so they don't yell at me
eh, most randoms aren't running true level and have no idea
the ones that do are always cunts about it
you could change your name to DisabledGamer
at least in my experience
IPlayByBraille
let them die mad
anyone have a flamer ammo build i wanna use the flamer as much as possible
assholes will be assholes
wdym flamer ammo build
you mean like less reloads or less ammo pickup?
less ammo pick ups i feel like when i use the flamer i spend alot of time looking for ammo wondering if theres a build that negates that
I don't think there's a build for free flamer ammo, alas, like there is for lasguns, right?
There should be, mind you.
free las ammo is vet only
free las ammo is also the only gun type with something like that
foulmouthed too
there isn't much you can do with ammo replenishment other than surgically graft yourself to a survivalist vet's ass
big boss??? in my ratling???
Everlasting Flame blessing lets you reload less, but feels like a wasted blessing slot to me. But I know 0 about the flamer, really. I dislike how it screws visibility so I never use it.
yeh
everlasting is redundant imo
timing reloads is important
- with a good build nothing should withstand a full mag of flamer
a full mag should kill off a pack of crusher no problem
Lets you use a specialist crusher/monstrosity weapon like the thammer, while having a tool to deal with hordes. Apparently it's good vs armor. I don't know shit about flamers lol
I hear about it being used on elite packs but I never see it personally, so I don't know what that's about
what're the blessings/perks for that, Tin?
toasting crusher packs, I mean
another consistent FyreStone cringe post! not even surprised anymore
lemme find another cole video
he has one somewhere
I don't record me playing so :P
if it's good for crusher packs, then I guess the opposite is true. Lets you use a hugely effective mixed horde weapon like heavy sword, but one that doesn't do well vs armor, while giving you tools vs armor I guess.
Sweet, I just got some beer!
hordeclear option to go with weapons that are big on single-target damage like the thammer
is there a damage build then more damage equalls less ammo to use since the die quicker?
also it’s a flamethrower cmon man shit’s cool
equals*
exactly
This is one of the reasons I have that cretin blocked.
Best Heavy Sword Mk?
his constant braindead takes got him blocked
I like mk9 the most.
goonin?
blaze away accumulates power as you spend your mag
who, where?
Mk9 is very simple, it's h1 > special loop for single target, otherwise it's light > heavy and then just spam heavies while dragging your screen.
Im seeing so much Smykers right now, ffs
best perks and blessings for it?
The other models require you to flick the fuck out of your camera to make use of deadthblow.
I'm gonna lose it
Infinite smite op
my life is meaningless without dan
I run
damage dump
flak/unyielding
blaze away/penetrating flame
Showstopper looks fun and effective, but is it? Imagining something like overpressure is better in practice? Or penetrating flame?
Razgriz on gameslantern says everlasting is good so, again, wtf do I know about flamers
his takes are often different from what I see here though
they need to sell your FPS to fund their peril edging addiction
never trust gameslantern
I find all the Heavy Swords enjoyable but I mean that’s bound to happen they turn hordes into actual meat putty
I fell for cole's sprint efficiency/block efficency limbsplitter/all or nothing tac axe there
Ignore all gameslantern takes.
The only time a gameslantern take is correct is if it is said and agreed upon by knowledgeable people that aren't on reddit.
total fyrestone death
this is kinda kino ngl
in that case, thoughts on precog vs riposte on duelling sword?
in combination with Uncanny Strike, which I love
crit rate vs weakspot/crit damage
why don’t ogryns just pull themselves up if they’re hanging on a ledge? are they stupid?
oh that’s not-
haha well yes, but is one generally considered superior to the other?
I mean with piety why even use riposte
Brodie has a bright future ahead of him
precog is better when you already have a good crit rate
that was my thought. Guaranteeing crit headshots I guess?
yea that's an option too
people more often shoot for precognition because there’s other effects that’d up your crit rate and it gets kinda redundant
such as fury of the faithful, blazing piety and, iirc, lot of right tree talents
To add onto this, you’re aiming for headshots most if not all of the time anyway and are very likely to proc Precognition if you dodge anything at all ever so the +headshot damage is damn near free
wdym
vultures 2 is literally the BEST ALBUM EVER
darktide

I know
I need new slop
zazu burger
Pilgrim!
@hushed knoll Hey, Stan, a catburger!

Made fresh for Stan lol
I have virtually every crit and damage increasing talent available, and run piety, so riposte never made sense to me, just making sure I wasn't missing something.
Yes
don't post that
I am aware of the majesty of Duellist hahaha
How am I supposed to know how people or cat taste lmao
You can use riposte if you’re hurting for crit chance I guess but really it’s just redundant
yeah, for sure. This game has lots of hidden mechanics.
Which makes it more sad when people come in asking for advice and then tell us off when we give it to them
I'm still surprised they never nerfed the hidden stun immunity on Thy Wrath Be Swift. I miss it in my current build, but it was giving me bad habits anyway
come to think of it it’s so stupid how blazing piety’s uptime is damn near infinite
But I mean hey I fw it
eh, Desperado exists. At least piety is conditional
Veteran as a whole is on its own level of crack
their talent trees are still weird. I've been speccing away from keystones to get other stuff and not missing them, like, at all.
It still angers me that point taxes exist.
It’s amazing how people don’t run always run desperado
Very minor differences that don't make or break any gameplay on most passive talents.
fatshark explaining why a veteran’s mid-tree node is made to be considerably better than a zealot’s similarly-functioning keystone
+1 stamina is nice and all (I'm referring to vet tree) but I do not want to spend points on that shit.
Even on zealout, half the nodes are fucking dogshit passives.
our mid tree stuff is all pretty great?
Either just a very minor addition (+5% melee damage, doesn't help or hinder anything) or a passive that is awful to get (hammer of the emperor).
On zealout? Hell no.
Most mid tree nodes are garbage.
those little passives add up.
I love zealot charge and relic?
are we talking about different things?
I'm not saying zealot mid-tree stuff is bad, I'm just saying it's funny that Desperado is better Blazing Piety
Cats can’t be burgers
Chorus is alright, but it's the only ability with a mandatory point tax.
Like, fotf and shroudfield can completely disregard their aux nodes. Chorus is forced to get one.
Yeah, a very obvious bandaid and a 'I want to be viable in melee' button
So yeah, most zealout talents are terrible. The ones that aren't are balance shattering.
And if they aren't terrible or balance shattering, they're stuck behind said terrible talents.
I still find it fucking hilarious that chorus doesn't do this from the jump
For example, sainted gunslinger is great, but both the talents before it are awful.
pretty happy with a lot of the pick ups in my build tbh. They all do stuff aligned with what I want to be doing.
Yes this is what I was referring to by the mandatory point tax.
It's fucking rage inducing.
it's funny how that bounced off of my consciousness. That should 100% be built into the talent.
yeah sometimes wins and losses aren't recorded but it only seems to break of there's a crash or hard disconnect
maybe they feel it's strong enough to be worth 2 points, but there's no provision in the game for making a talent cost 2 points?
I mean hey they made Relentless part of executioner’s stance 
it's an ability that accomplishes a lot of shit at once. CC, healing, etc.
You look at smite and tell me chorus is worth two points.
but executioner's stance is. . . executioner's stance

like veteran’s shout?
Exec really strong
Chorus is not worth two points.
That node should be baked in, or, at the very least, be optional.
shout is awesome, but doesn't give a party tools to delete a pack before it can react at all if they're on the ball
different universe
It literally does???
This is what I hate about zealot, I feel like I have wasted points but the "good" talents are all locked behind useless one s
I’d imagine knocking every enemy within range on their ass is a pretty good tool
Instant knockdowns on everything in the aoe, 50 overtoughness, and several damage buffs.
Shout is a 30 second timer free overhead
idk
why wouldn't you?
That's the exact gripe that Dorn and I can consistently agree on.
not on the same level. The one-time stagger isn't the same as chorus' continuous pulses.
I want a tree rework
I love vet too
And thats saying something, because Dorn and I only agree on factual information 99% of the time.
Opinionated information is a different animal entirely.
to be clear
Like "thy wrath be swift" is locked behind the most useless talent ever
oh my GODDD
I think shout is incredible. I'm playing devil's advocate regarding why a dev team might have valued chorus more
Dod is really useful
Actually, I think dance of death is great.
Dance of death should be where hammer of the emperor is.
(exact same spot but in the middle tree)
Well Kant shotgun has the highest spread 🤷
And move sainted gunslinger up to be right underneath it.
Also, the node under Fury of the Faithful is.... Suppression boost? What?
Yeah, right? That's such a fucking shit talent.
I mean sort of
The Hammer of Faith perk, does it in apply to ranged as well?
But that's because of how suppression value works
suppression boost on my fotf melee build ⁉️
Like, when I play Ogryn I never feel like I have wasted points, with zealot I feel like I'm level 27 at level 30
I feel like writing a zealout tree manifesto.
and what the fuck are YOU doing over there
You think other trees will get reworked like Vet had?
ngl old vet tree had it really fucking bad
Most likely, yes.
probably not to that extent tbh
like actually
i'm expecting them to rework zealot tree and fuck it up massively
I can't see how they could.
damn bro, same
And impact strength, does that also work on ranged if it’s not specified as just melee?
It's kind of hard to fuck it up worse than it currently is with current point taxes.
ya
they'll either make a new tree that's somehow more dogshit or massively overpowered
generally anything that isn't specifically stated to be melee or ranged works for both afaik
I cannot tell if this is Beautiful or horrendous, but I’m going to see if it works
I don't have confidence that fatshark knows what zealot is even supposed to be like
Zealot is faith
my guess is that they'll make it busted
they dont
watching the dev stream confirmed it
Zealot is obviously the main melee class, featuring playstyles for high single target boss killing melee strikes and sustained horde mobbing
but then things just sorta muddle it
@paper harness what do you think about a zealout tree manifesto?
It can do fire too but not really? It can do crit but eh?
piety is purty good
Ogryn is melee too though
i mean crit build is one of the best
not piety
but just scourge + tdr talent
is already quite busted
It's the Jojo scene of the gun coming out of the piece of paper.
i think the keystones are mostly fine
just the layout of the tree and the tax nodes randomly spread out
Yeah but it is one sub playstyle of Oggy while Zealot has a few ways to do it
is so cursed
the tree is incredibly inflexible
Keystone are great, actually, though I think piety needs to lose two nodes to standardize it with the other two.
IMO the actual nodes and keystones are greaat
Make any ability other than fotf good








