zealot-class

[misty nova]

Damn blur is uh
Unsettling

Yeah

[spare talon]

I love getting ready to make an hour long drive then suddenly my phone says "haha no more mobile data" so I am not allowed to have a GPS so I can't make the drive

[lucid cypress]

limited data moment

(L)

[spare talon]

I have unlimited data

It's simply just not connecting to it

[placid fiber]

tfw the cell towers don't cover the area you're in

[royal vortex]

tfw when the

[placid fiber]

tf

[spare talon]

I am literally in my car outside of my house

[placid fiber]

Better remove the lead paint on your car

[fleet zealot]

Spidersense is cheating thanks reddit

[spare talon]

I am going to kill someone

[placid fiber]

Don't forget: Being a good player is cheating

[spare talon]

I love having spidey sense then just fucking ignoring it 99% of the time lmao

[fleet zealot]

A feature that fortnite made baseline for accessibility is cheating

[south folio]

what a shame

no speed for you

[fleet zealot]

I dont have spidey sense cause im not auditory impaired just visual so it gave me too much eye noise

[spare talon]

I literally cannot notice the 25% swap speed on any build that would path that way lmao

[placid fiber]

I feel like the only character you would really notice it on would be an ogryn

[spare talon]

The cleave visual is really good for silent crushers tho

[placid fiber]

or with the flamer/boltgun

Also I might noticed the swap speed for the brauto, tbh

due to the fact I can see hte difference between the draw speed of the autopistol and brauto

[spare talon]

I couldn't notice with db, the one weapon I'd want it for on vet

[placid fiber]

Db is a really fast swap tho

[spare talon]

But it's the only weapon I'd constantly swap back and forth from multiple times in rapid succession

[lost pumice]

I havent used zealot in forever. But this was the build I was using. Is it still viable?

[fleet zealot]

Why go bfte

Off martyrdom

[lost pumice]

I have no idea. This was like a year ago

[fleet zealot]

Bleed for the emperor

[spare talon]

Is that the zealot meta no stealth build from gameslantern

[fleet zealot]

Also drop IJ toughness extension node for 10% attack speed

[amber igloo]

invocation is just broken OP atm

[lost pumice]

That's exactly what it was lol

[amber igloo]

you shud try to use it with piety or a shred weapon

[lost pumice]

It was when I first started playing darktide

[hard nexus]

it sucks

[wary kite]

Do any zealot weapons have toughness blessings?

[lost pumice]

It did pretty well around a year or so ago. But I imagine there had been a decent amount of changes and things.

[north sedge]

nah it's a bit of a goofy build

[fleet zealot]

Yes but none of them use them

It’s all just massive overkill with how much toughness gen zealot gets already

[grizzled aspen]

Momentum on eviscerator makes you basically unkillable, though.

[wary kite]

From what? The toughness on dodge talent?

[fleet zealot]

So does using an eviscerator

[misty nova]

Momentum so yeah

[fleet zealot]

From melee kills, from ability, from ewew, and especially second wind

[wary kite]

I can't look at the tree right now so I can't remember other nodes

What is ewew

[fleet zealot]

All toughness blessings do is give you false security cause you won’t get punished for poor fundamentals but you will collapse in higher diffs/density cause you can’t beat the dps check

[fleet zealot]

Enemies within enemies without

[wary kite]

Ah word

Just wondering

[spare talon]

It generally takes half of the good talents, but some choices are questionable, esp with the weapons it uses and the blessings on them

[wary kite]

I'm coming from playing Ogryn which has lots of toughness blessings that help

I feel like to get the "good" nodes I have to path through ones I don't give a shit about

[amber igloo]

I mean, ogryn dont need those either

[lost pumice]

Yeah I changed the weapons that it had suggested. But I'm just gonna start from scratch tho.

[amber igloo]

maybe arguably lugger

[wary kite]

Yeah I just like to get ridiculous

[amber igloo]

facetanking a DH with slow and stady branx is kinda fun

[wary kite]

Trying to live up the days of old FNP

[spare talon]

One point in sc for realistically 5% sprint speed

[amber igloo]

rofl, old FNP was beyond broken

[marsh plume]

Zealot tree is some hot trash, although you could prob already tell when you’ve got 1 aura that’s good and the other 2 are trash

[wary kite]

Yeah

I'm still mad that I have to path through a node that gives me less.... Bullet Spread on dodge? On zealot? What the hell

[spare talon]

Dr change was good, toughness change w shooters killed it

[amber igloo]

70-90 TDR was not good

[wary kite]

It should still only activate on health damage

[amber igloo]

it was game breaking

You could get what, 97% against gunners?

rofl

but it would fit right into current patch

[wary kite]

Lore accurate Ogryn

[spare talon]

Yes
That's my point
They changed it to not be additive

[amber igloo]

welcome to darktide 2024, no skill required

[wary kite]

I never felt that challenged to begin with. Unless there's a room full of gunners

[amber igloo]

hi int used to fun before p13, as long as you didn't have shredder vets

ooh, elite resistance!

bring it back

[spare talon]

But with the toughness change, good luck having high stacks from shooter chips

[amber igloo]

but who am I kidding, you couldn't pug without shredder vets

or shredder psykers

[wary kite]

I'm just mad that theres a million veterans that are good at everything and Ogryn still has like 5 entire guns

[amber igloo]

or shredder zealots

gotta cater to the main population

VET MAINS!

[wary kite]

Yeah

[amber igloo]

I remember a forum thread crying about ogryns taking up space

[wary kite]

I just want to be a big man

[amber igloo]

according to vets, they shud just hug the sides

so they can freely shoot

[wary kite]

I mean that's what I usually do but I'm so wide I get in the way sometime

[amber igloo]

any weapon shoots thru anyone now

if you wanna hit targets thru me, learn to tag

[fleet zealot]

Yep it used to take a hitmass

[wary kite]

I would play Ogryn way more than I already do if they had cool cosmetics and if they had better build variety. Psyker can pick any blitz with any aura and ability this patch, and the other classes are still basically streamlined

Feels like to me at least

[amber igloo]

wdym ogryns look fkin awesome

[wary kite]

Most of it is just the same wife beater

[amber igloo]

cant even fit myself on the screen lol

the gladiator set is better than what most classes have

I love it

[wary kite]

That's my favorite chestpiece

[amber igloo]

by far

I need to get the peg leg tho

clink clink clink

[wary kite]

I got that pegleg

The pants are blue with it so it doesn't go with much

[amber igloo]

I love that jacket as well

[wary kite]

I want that one best that has like 3 bandoliers on it

I love running gunlugger but I need that chestpiece to finish the outfit

I also just feel bad eating all the ammo, but they made gunlugger better this patch

[amber igloo]

ok, your ogryn license has been officially revoked

fuck luggers

[wary kite]

BLO is still bad

What's so bad about shooting for 30 seconds without stopping

[amber igloo]

puglandia is filled with backliners, I'm not gonna add insult to injury

me stand front

me melee

[wary kite]

Who said anything about backline

I use inspiring barrage and facetank the world

I just like to be unique. Every. Single. Ogryn runs HH

I inspected a whole lot of them w while ago to see, and HH builds were by far the most common

[amber igloo]

well, ogryn is pretty one-dimensional, but excells at that at least

hey, I'll run FNP with karsolas

the fuck I need more dmg for

[wary kite]

Karsolas my beloved

I like power maul too but apparently people say it's bad

[amber igloo]

also, the loss of 10% TDR on HH builds is rather noticable

paul fuckin drives me crazy

that slowdown on activation is infuriating

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1292675787010605107/caption_1.gif

[amber igloo]

same reason I could never get used to the PS6

FUCK the slowdown

[night latch]

I like power maul but it’s too slow IMO

[amber igloo]

its noticable even if you slide

[twin veldt]

Turn on Darktide Discord
Look inside Zealot class chat
Ogryns

[amber igloo]

frontline brothers

[wary kite]

What's your Ogryns name

[spare talon]

There is another one in the tree you can take elsewhere
Functionally my build is unchanged

[night latch]

Haha

[fleet zealot]

Ogryn or zealot one?

[twin veldt]

I don't have Ogryn yet but I'll name him Brick

[wary kite]

Mines name is Gub

I don't know what level I am because I am Xbox

But it's probably up there

I ONLY played Ogryn until this patch

[spare talon]

Mine is Grokington the III

[amber igloo]

tusko means trunk

log

a giant blunt stick

[grizzled aspen]

Unfortunately, ewew can't really be picked with current builds due to point taxes, unless you forego anoint and purge.

[placid fiber]

Mine is Kirk Skullbreaker >.>

Had to look it up

[wary kite]

Gub is bug backwards because he is big, not like a bug

[amber igloo]

lol

[placid fiber]

Have no fancy rp reason behind the name <.<

[wary kite]

Maybe he was a starship captain somewhere

[amber igloo]

so whats the most common oggy name, my bet is on hodor

[placid fiber]

okri has to be up there

[amber igloo]

ah yea, some derivation of Bardin is up there as well

[rotund shoal]

ive seen a lot of Yordos

its a default name

[wary kite]

What voice do you guys use for Ogryn

[amber igloo]

the dumb one, what else

[wary kite]

Ah, me too

[amber igloo]

LITTLE GIRL WITH BIG NET

[wary kite]

I use the toughest, strongest, meanest one

[amber igloo]

Ogryns are so well done

[placid fiber]

I forgot the one I used

[wary kite]

Stopped twitching now!

[placid fiber]

probably bodyguard

[wary kite]

Does he talk about rashuns

[placid fiber]

Idk I forgot x.x

I blame obamacare, Cole, and uh... Bandit

[terse palm]

whats the stat prio for flamer?

[placid fiber]

Because of Dorn's attitude towards smykers

Yeah...

[twin veldt]

Damn, I wanted to share a pic but I can't

[amber igloo]

stat prio?

you mean dumpstat?

[placid fiber]

Burn(up to 76), Cloud Radius, Ammo

[amber igloo]

mobility or dmg

[terse palm]

preesh

[placid fiber]

With the dump stat being mobility or damage

[amber igloo]

I have 60 mobi, not like I'm gonna run around with

[placid fiber]

It'd be funny if we got a flamer variant that used damage lol

Then us people with mobility as the dump stat would be way ahead of the game lol

[placid fiber]

See what I mean? Dorn is calling me names again!

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[wary kite]

You guys think bolter with shattering impact would be a good anti crusher gun

[placid fiber]

I mean people use shattering impact and the bleed blessing

for the bolter

[wary kite]

I use heavy sword and that thing can't dent shit

[blissful grove]

Which combat blade do zealot's prefer, 3 or 6?

[placid fiber]

6 myself, but, I like a bit better horde clear(I also don't use the knife much)

[twin veldt]

what blessings should you use on bolt pistol? I run Surgical and Puncture, is there anything better?

[wary kite]

Explode

[placid fiber]

Surgical and uh... the one that makes crit damage higher

[terse palm]

found this on melk figured id give it a shot

[placid fiber]

I'm a sienna main in vt2, don't threaten me with a good time

[wary kite]

Is puncture even good on a bolter? Wouldn't the bolder delete the enemies anyway?

[placid fiber]

I've just heard the combo

[wary kite]

Word

[fleet zealot]

Surgical puncture, surgical da, or lethal proximity (makes your grenades better and lets you get full damage at close range) puncture

I wouldn’t use puncture on boltgun tho

[placid fiber]

Like I said: I've just heard the combo lol

[fleet zealot]

Shattering pinning or shattering cavalcade both sound better

[placid fiber]

^

[wary kite]

Word

[fleet zealot]

And then fire frenzy is good outside of straight crusher/bulwark engagements

[wary kite]

I just got a basically max rolled bolter so I'm gonna try it out

[twin veldt]

When I started playing bolt pistol, I had puncture on it and sometimes when I shot some hounds, they had like 1 hp left but died a second later due to bleed

[wary kite]

Been using cowboy revolver but I want to try something bigger

[placid fiber]

So better vs the poxwalkers?

[fleet zealot]

Mtf means

[placid fiber]

mtf?

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/scp-scp-secret-labatory-mobile-task-force-server-is-up-gif-22809841

[placid fiber]

Male to female...?

[fleet zealot]

It’s an scp joke yes

[twin veldt]

God I wish for this chest to be available in tomorrows rotation so bad. (It won't)

[placid fiber]

Went over my head, but, I'm dumb lol

[fleet zealot]

Mobile task force but also male to female plus at least 2 scps that can trans u

[wary kite]

Why no pegleg

[fleet zealot]

Oh i thought that was scp face

[twin veldt]

I don't like pegleg

[placid fiber]

I think 173 would murdicate me before I could get trans-ed

[wary kite]

So you're ableist

[twin veldt]

maybe I'll make some pirate type character later

[twin veldt]

[fleet zealot]

Pegleg + eyepatch is peak zealot

[wary kite]

Real

[twin veldt]

I got the mod that lets me preview paid cosmetics like the unpaid ones and it's edging me so much, knowing I can't have them

[wary kite]

I bought the pirate set way back when it was out and I'm waiting to wear it once I get to 30

[placid fiber]

I'm watching someone play deadlock and it just looks like overwatch :/

[wary kite]

I've gotten tired of those games

Darktide is more fun than that. Actually makes me feel cool

[placid fiber]

but with heroes of the storm vibes

[fleet zealot]

You aren’t innaccurate

[twin veldt]

With 90% destiny 2 gameplay

[placid fiber]

doesn't surprise me on that, i've just never seen destiny 2 gameplay

[fleet zealot]

Ehh is destiny 2 third person?

[wary kite]

I remember when I used to play destiny 2. I don't anymore, I can't keep up with it

[placid fiber]

I just definitely see heroes of the storm and overwatch in it

[twin veldt]

Oh you mean deadlock, I thought you mean Concord

[fleet zealot]

It’s an fps, deadlock is tps, warframe seems more apt of comparison

[placid fiber]

lol

[fleet zealot]

It looks like it will be a fun game but jfc

[twin veldt]

I retract my statement

[placid fiber]

Like I said: I haven't seen destiny 1 or 2 lol

[fleet zealot]

Im not touching ranked

There is so much metagaming and shit you need to keep track off while doing your mechanics

[wary kite]

What heavy sword mark do you guys like

[fleet zealot]

9 but they are all viable

[placid fiber]

6, but, all perform about the same

[twin veldt]

I used to love it but stopped playing it last year when it got worse than before, now its total shitshow and I'm really sad about it, had so much potential and they doomed it

[wary kite]

I use 6

[wary kite]

I know! Theres no other game that has the same vibe and they ruined it!

[placid fiber]

the 9's heavy 2 and 3 just... I don't know how to use them effectively and they come at the cost of a heavy 2 that does the same damage as the heavy 1

[fleet zealot]

Like okay you have dodging, double jumping, dashing long jumps, and of course just normal strafing

[wary kite]

Yeah, I like big vertical heavies anyway

[fleet zealot]

Then you have to last hit the enemy minion souls while also shooting your minion souls to deny them

[twin veldt]

I remember when I got into D2 not knowing what I'm doing just exploring the plantes and doing side missions, then 2 years later they deleted half the planets and half the story

[wary kite]

Yeah

I just wanted to be a space wizard

[placid fiber]

Ranked and go be shoved up the ranked gamer's asses

[wary kite]

It's like Star wars but cooler

[fleet zealot]

There is an underground and rooftop areas

[twin veldt]

But I still played the endgame stuff til after witch queen

[placid fiber]

I don't care for ranked, lol

[wary kite]

Yeah

[fleet zealot]

You have the “jungle” of neutral creeps you need to farm

Break boxes for more souls, break vases for stat buffs

[placid fiber]

cough heroes of the storm ***COUGH ***

[fleet zealot]

Yea but hots you could manage it cause you didn’t have hard personal mechanics

I can’t do the deadlock micro and macro gameplay at the same time my brain overheats

[marsh plume]

Can someone give curio advice for zealot? Obv for perks I want +toughness and at least 2 gunner resist, but what about the curio blessings and the third perk slot?

Is 2 toughness 1 health ok?

[wary kite]

No

[placid fiber]

Depending on how you play, definitely

[fleet zealot]

3x toughness or 2x toughness 1x stam or 2x toughness 1x hp

[wary kite]

Actually yes

[placid fiber]

I like 3x toughness myself

and for marty I like 2x wound and 1x toughness

[marsh plume]

Awesome haha I was running 3x toughness for my tank build but wasn't sure if it was overkill

[wary kite]

Marty is so good. I love swinging as fast as possible

[fleet zealot]

No such thing

[placid fiber]

I mean my non-marty builds have enough toughness that I could go 1 hp curio easily

[fleet zealot]

Toughness is additive

So no diminishing returns

[marsh plume]

Haha fair enough ty

[placid fiber]

And toughness recovery(besides coherency) is % based

[placid fiber]

So blame Cole if your toughness build fails

[marsh plume]

Will do sah

[placid fiber]

[fleet zealot]

Deadlock just has so many mechanics

[marsh plume]

15% toughness on dodge is crazy tho

[twin veldt]

fr

[placid fiber]

I'm seeing stuff fly by and I have 0 idea what any of it means besides the shooting/meleeing lol

[wary kite]

Isn't that the one where you have two bodies?

[twin veldt]

this good?

[placid fiber]

no

[copper hawk]

Nope

Low pen

Also, shred

[placid fiber]

You want mobility or cleave targets to be the dump stat

[copper hawk]

Ramp and sav sweep for the mk iii

[wary kite]

Needs more penetration

[copper hawk]

Mobility isnthe dump stat

Is the*

[marsh plume]

Also it seems like the zealot has limited options for aura and ability modifier, I mean obviously only tdr aura is good, and unless you're running a stealth build it seems you will mostly want cdr on crits

[fleet zealot]

Me when i have to memorize a roster of heroes that have their own abilities, own gun with different behaviors, who can be building wildly different items

[placid fiber]

You can dump cleave targets, tho, and get away with it(at least for the mk15)

[fleet zealot]

No deadlock is the shooter moba valve is making

[wary kite]

Oh word

Who asked for more shooters

Who

[twin veldt]

So I need more penetration get rampange

[wary kite]

Yuh

[copper hawk]

Team fortress 2..

[wary kite]

Always more penetration, can never get enough

[copper hawk]

Yah

Let mobility be the lowest

[twin veldt]

But Shred good no?

[copper hawk]

Not on the mk 3 no

[placid fiber]

rampage is power, so yeah

[wary kite]

I would do wrath maybe

But I don't know

[twin veldt]

getting 4% crit on chained

[wary kite]

I don't use eviscerator

[twin veldt]

when I slash into hordes it stacks well no

[copper hawk]

Crit doesnt do much at all in this game

[placid fiber]

Yeah like I said specifically for the mk15(I corrected myself) you can dump cleave targets, but, you're right. Mobility is the dump stat for the mk3 no matter what

[fleet zealot]

I didn’t have to last hit and deny in tf2, and know when to dodge, double jump or dodge jump

[copper hawk]

For weapons without a high finesse modigier

[copper hawk]

At least yah w double jump

[fleet zealot]

No

[copper hawk]

Crit is good for finesse weapons

For example, the chord

[fleet zealot]

Evi has shit crit dmg

[copper hawk]

The evis has a low finesse value

Finesse gives you better damage on crit iirc

[paper harness]

The hs has no finesse

[fleet zealot]

Chord has good crit damage and also a unique crit dmg not falling off with cleave

[paper harness]

[copper hawk]

So crit works w weapons w good finesse values per hits

[twin veldt]

So I should find a different chainsword to max out

[wary kite]

Is knife still good now that we have dueling swords?

[copper hawk]

And per stat

[paper harness]

IJ maxing

[copper hawk]

Nah evis is fun and fine

Rampage and savage sweep

The XV you can run shred

[twin veldt]

I mean one with higher pen

[copper hawk]

Because its horde clear is capped at 4

Oh yah

[marsh plume]

So is this just another thing where FS uses different words for the same mechanic? Like finesse = finesse damage = crit bonus?

[copper hawk]

Yah that one is slop

Low pen kinda makes it worthless imo

Cant kill elites

[paper harness]

Headtaker rampage obliterates everything on the hs7

[twin veldt]

found I got this one, way better base yes?

[paper harness]

Pls try it

[copper hawk]

Just a hunk of metal

[fleet zealot]

Finesse is both weakspot and crit dmg

[copper hawk]

Low cleave

Worthless

Mobility is the dump stat on the evis

[marsh plume]

Ahh awesome ty ty

[copper hawk]

Almost all weapons as well actually

Find one with 60% mobility

[fleet zealot]

And on the weapon modifier % finesse is also attack speed

But blessings and talents about finesse do not boost attack speed

[twin veldt]

true, I have one more cleave but shredder capped at 64

[wary kite]

They should

I want to be a blender

[copper hawk]

Yes and no

[copper hawk]

Use the pen one

Low cleave targets is awful lol

[marsh plume]

Also sorry for spam but is this accurate or am I just stupid again?

[placid fiber]

If that were a mk15 it would work

I mean you can change the mark, but, that's beside the point

[placid fiber]

sadge

[wary kite]

Unlucky

[copper hawk]

If i understand you right..

[frosty herald]

Extremely fun

[copper hawk]

Then crits yah rlly the only tjing they do for zeal is give u cdr lol

Crits do vry little damage except for specific wpns

[twin veldt]

man, I found one more in my inventory, looks about right but its 170 power

[frosty herald]

Rename sparking zero to stunlock zero jesus fucking christ

[twin veldt]

but best stats out of them right?

[placid fiber]

basically perfect

[frosty herald]

Try to vanish once welp infinite combo

[wary kite]

It's the best one I've seen

[twin veldt]

Time to spend all my diamantine now

[wary kite]

Now throw 5000 plasteel in the shitter to max mastery it real quick

[copper hawk]

That's almost perfect

[twin veldt]

how tf do I get more diamantine? I got 17k plasteel but only 3,7 diamantine

[copper hawk]

Empower it so it's above 55% mobility

[placid fiber]

give it time, you'll have 4398530498503495 diamantine and -432900498 plasteel and dockets lol

[copper hawk]

Harder difficulties

[wary kite]

Just lock in

[twin veldt]

and I pick up everything and get all the idols etc

[copper hawk]

Diamantine is more common in damnatio

Damnation*

From what ive been told

Ive only ever played damnation and i dont rember the time when i played any lower

So idk

[twin veldt]

I havent played the highest difficulty yet, I recently got back to darktide after stopping in the beta and barely maxed lvl zealot and vet this week

[copper hawk]

But i have a fuck ton of diamantine

And like no plasteel

Damnation has more dia

[marsh plume]

Oh I mean like choosing which cdr perk, most of the time its invocation of death and sometimes pious cut-throat if I understand correctly?

[twin veldt]

But I've found out I'm having better games on 4 bar difficulty than the 3 bar one, since that one is full of braindead people

[placid fiber]

almost double the plasteel of heresy as well

[copper hawk]

Which one is pious cut throat

[marsh plume]

20% less cdr on backstab

[copper hawk]

The best cdr is on the top right

Oh that's on ij right

The right node

Right before ij

[marsh plume]

Oh rly? I thought it would only be worth it for stealth builds my b

[copper hawk]

The top right one i forget the name

It's opposite second wind i think

[placid fiber]

50% tdr?

[copper hawk]

It's 50% dr on crit

Yah

It's like... a requirement for crit wpns lol

And the bleed one

Scourge?

[placid fiber]

^

For a crit build/knife yeah

[copper hawk]

I know piety has the left side nodes that do like

[placid fiber]

blazing has the +175% cdr rate

on crit for 4s

[copper hawk]

When ur in frenzy you get 25% tdr

It's multiplicative though so you get like 62 tdr in total

W the crit tdr

Which is still a hefty chunk of damage reduction

I was thinking of making a meme build using it

[twin veldt]

Well I upgraded the eviscerator

[fleet zealot]

+200%

So fotf can have 100% uptime on crit builds kekw

[twin veldt]

2k diamantine gone

[marsh plume]

Wait so pious cut-throat is the best cdr then?

[twin veldt]

[placid fiber]

[marsh plume]

Not what I was expecting lol

[copper hawk]

Yah

The one that gives you 50% tdr on crit

Plus the piety one would give you

62.5%

[marsh plume]

What?

[copper hawk]

But 50% is fine

[marsh plume]

It doesn't give tdr

[placid fiber]

it's dr or tdr

[marsh plume]

Wait or are you saying get pious cut-throat and also blazing piety?

[rocky nacelle]

no

they're just forgetting zealot talents

this is for crit builds

[marsh plume]

Ok sorry I'm really confused

[hard depot]

where are we on optimal knives?

[copper hawk]

This one steel

[twin veldt]

NO WAIT

[marsh plume]

Ok yeah this is what I'm asking, most of the time you want invocation of death unless you're doing stealth or is that wrong?

[twin veldt]

not that one

[copper hawk]

The only cdr node on the top right

[gray ice]

Is that sprint efficiency on my beloved eviscerator

[marsh plume]

Wait I thought cdr stood for cooldown reduction no?

[rocky nacelle]

you can do IoD on stealth

[gray ice]

Please report to your chapter master

[placid fiber]

That is tdr, not cdr

[rocky nacelle]

you'd just have to be on knife

[copper hawk]

Yah meant tdr

[placid fiber]

cdr is cooldown reduction, tdr is toughness damage reduction

[marsh plume]

But I was asking abt cdr 😭

[copper hawk]

Whaddaflipper..

[rocky nacelle]

even with no piety investment

knife gets 50% crit

[copper hawk]

I may be stupid..

Invocation is the best cdr

[rocky nacelle]

so you can abuse backstab and crit CDR

[copper hawk]

On the left

[rocky nacelle]

on shroud builds

[marsh plume]

.

[placid fiber]

there's 2 ones that do something: 20% backstab cdr or +200% ability rate for 4s on crit

[twin veldt]

THIS, is the final one. Anything else I should change?

[copper hawk]

Woopz

I thought tdr

[placid fiber]

the 1% base health damage = 1% cdr is ass

[copper hawk]

But invocation of death is the best cdr

[marsh plume]

Ok awesome ty that's what I was thinking but I wasn't sure

[amber igloo]

invocation is overtuned af, you wanna grab it whenever you can ideally

[copper hawk]

It reduces chastise to one every 10 seconds

[rocky nacelle]

yeah why do you have sprint efficiency on

[gray ice]

Reported to inquisition for sprint efficiency

[copper hawk]

Yah sorrgy

Im a lil stipid

[marsh plume]

No worries haha you're not

[twin veldt]

For sprinting at targets with my sword out?

[twin veldt]

Is sprint efficiency bad?

[rocky nacelle]

yes

[gray ice]

Replace sprint efficiency

with flak

[twin veldt]

I always find myself sprinting faster and farther than my teammates

[rocky nacelle]

just go stamina regen on your curios, no reason to give up 25% extra dmg to an annoying enemy type on your weapon

[gray ice]

if you really want sprint effiency put it on curios

[rocky nacelle]

just to fuckin hold shift longer

lmfao

[twin veldt]

Got some there too

I am speed

[gray ice]

put dmg on your weapon

[gray ice]

use weapon to kill things

[marsh plume]

So zealot seems to have some insane build variety
1 good aura
1 cracked ability modifier

[gray ice]

not run faster

[copper hawk]

This is an example ofna good build using cdr

[rocky nacelle]

the build cica posted I use with a mk15 evisc

its also the knife build nowadays

[marsh plume]

I was told double cdr was overkill lol but ig that's up for debate?

[rocky nacelle]

cdr only sucks on curios

talents that give CDR are way better

[marsh plume]

No yeah I asked abt the ability modifiers

They said having both invocation of death and pious cut-throat is doing too much

[rocky nacelle]

who is they

[twin veldt]

Ok done

[copper hawk]

Oh i take pious unconsciously

[twin veldt]

Thanks yall

[copper hawk]

Srry

U can use the other one

[gray ice]

I don't see an issue with both

[copper hawk]

But the other one i find is like

Comparatively useless

[gray ice]

just make sure you're actually using your ability a ton to make good use of it

[rocky nacelle]

(maybe you should backstab more noob)

😇

[twin veldt]

Now I'm afraid to share my zealot talent tree

[marsh plume]

Here was where I asked

[copper hawk]

Man i am stipid

[gray ice]

do it coward

[copper hawk]

Brain is moldy

[gray ice]

the criticism is cuz we want you to do better

[copper hawk]

[marsh plume]

Oh yes I love using stealth liberally

[rocky nacelle]

temmie brain moment

[twin veldt]

I need the mod to screenshot it better first

[gray ice]

hwat

just cut paste

unless you're on xbox ig

[rocky nacelle]

ah yes the mod known as windows sign + shift + S

to take screenshots

(yeah unless you're an xbot)

[twin veldt]

uhh

[gray ice]

no twbs

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption-iam-abir82-liverpool-kick-kick-kid-gif-22437195

[twin veldt]

no what

[amber igloo]

thy is a crutch, you don't need it 90% of time

[gray ice]

you're a crutch

[rocky nacelle]

if only people saw my dclaw bolter spec for train

no twbs memes

[gray ice]

it's not actually necessary but i'm not gonna pretend it isn't stupid strong

[amber igloo]

now that you have 10s ulti with invocation, it's even less important

[rocky nacelle]

having to ignore shitty ranged stun

sign me up

[amber igloo]

just rush them

[gray ice]

Yea but it only takes one time getting caught by the 40 gunner trap

I have a dclaw build without it but I know I play different without it

[twin veldt]

fuck it we ball, I'll go try the new sword

[amber igloo]

yea not having thy will land you in trouble once every 10 runs

but 90% of the time it's just QoL

[pseudo oxide]

is rashad horde clear just spam light?

[amber igloo]

yea

pushattack when needed, spam light

[gray ice]

deathblow is what enables the horde clear make sure you have that

[rocky nacelle]

real build

[pseudo oxide]

is there any better ranged weapon then the revovler?

[amber igloo]

chained deathblow does fine as well

[pseudo oxide]

it goes so hard

[amber igloo]

you lose some horde, gain elite dmg

[gray ice]

most ranged weapons are pretty good now

[pseudo oxide]

dumpstat for rashad is mobility right?

[amber igloo]

correct

on melee it's pretty much always defence than mobility

whichever it has

[gray ice]

bolter is real nice now, still wish they'd fix the recoil bug which is only more apparent now that it's more stable

[rocky nacelle]

?

[copper hawk]

U dont need piety w the dclaw when it has shred

[rocky nacelle]

I have not felt this recoil bug you speak of

[copper hawk]

The crit chance is negligible

[pseudo oxide]

tried it, didnt like how slow it was, revovler is pretty much ready whenever and however you need it

[copper hawk]

It's better to run IJ to compensate the lack of damage the dclaw does in general

Especially against armor

Plus all the other good benefits

Plus ur using a bolter

[rocky nacelle]

no i think i'll just keep crit spamming

[copper hawk]

That's meow's build

[pseudo oxide]

got a combad axe with 80 in everything and a 61 in mobil, looks like its time to try out the axe

[gray ice]

bolt pistol is more comparable, also in a better spot now

[copper hawk]

It's fantastic

U already are w shred

The extra chance piety gives you is negligible in comparison

[pseudo oxide]

blessed by the emperor

[rocky nacelle]

thats cool

if I was asking for build tweaks

[copper hawk]

You did

[spare talon]

And since the dclaw is not the best in the instakill department
Scourge is basically 100% active

[rocky nacelle]

I didnt

[copper hawk]

You posted it in a public discord

Im going to look at it

[rocky nacelle]

I posted real build

[copper hawk]

If you didnt want people to look and talk then dont post it

[rocky nacelle]

funny enough my dclaw crit build isnt even this

this is just bolter spec

crit dclaw

[copper hawk]

If you make a claim then dont be surprised if people disagree

This is good build (claim)

It's better with this (rebuttal)

[rocky nacelle]

so you act stupid with everyone else

[gray ice]

if you've ever single shot it for an extended period, the recoil gets really jittery and doesn't recenter properly

[rocky nacelle]

then want to actually critique my build

[copper hawk]

With all the constant shit talk u give me on a daily basis and this weird erm did i ask 4 advice noob

[rocky nacelle]

crazy

[copper hawk]

Naw it's joever

Bye bye

[rocky nacelle]

lmfao

[gray ice]

as in ADS

[rocky nacelle]

I dont get you cica

but alright

"constant shit talk"

the bi polarness is off the charts

[pseudo oxide]

not sseeing deathblow or chained in blessings?

[copper hawk]

There was a whole ass day where you shat on me incessantly

[rocky nacelle]

???

[spare talon]

I didn't shit my pants (claim)
No you did (rebuttal)

[copper hawk]

The teasing is fine but two whole ass days in a row is nuts

[rocky nacelle]

I really want you to show and tell me

lmfao

[copper hawk]

I pointed it out to meow and she agreed

It was a few days ago

[rocky nacelle]

alright yall got it

[copper hawk]

Every day it's like this dude

Anywho

[pseudo oxide]

what perks for rashad?

[gray ice]

srry axe version is brutal momentum

[pseudo oxide]

ah

other one?

[gray ice]

headtaker still probs for general use

[spare talon]

Ht mandatory

[gray ice]

for perks flak/maniac will do ya fine

[gray ice]

iunno, playin around with it more. I kinda like all or nothing more than headtaker

[pseudo oxide]

you want 3 max health or 3 max toughness curios right?

[spare talon]

Flak/unarmored till stats are perfect
Then you swap unarmored

[copper hawk]

taxe still needs armor

need unarmored*

so sad..

[gray ice]

3 toughness or 2 tough 1 max hp if you wanna mix it

[north sedge]

toughness generally better

[pseudo oxide]

max for health is 21, and toughness is 17?

[gray ice]

ye

[pseudo oxide]

melk keeps giving me dopshit curios

[spare talon]

Or 2 tough 1 stam

[gray ice]

I think i only do that with dclaw

[spare talon]

I do that with nearly every weapon on zealot and vet

[rotund shoal]

1 stam always worth

[gray ice]

i wouldn't know 90% of the time it's 3 wounds for me

[spare talon]

Stinky martyrdom

[gray ice]

marty supreme stay flexin

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-praise-gif-25000256

[opaque island]

💪

the only weapon i dont use marty on is knife

[gray ice]

marty on new hammer has been so much goddamn fun

light attack one tapping maulers is the hammer experience i always wanted

[spare talon]

I wouldn't be able to do tolerate thammer without ij dodges

[opaque island]

wait, how are you 1 tap light attacking maulers? i cant evne do that on heresy and i have a good hammer

[gray ice]

when i play marty im generally sitting on last bar of hp for max benefit. duellist + desperation + slaught stacks

[opaque island]

no thrust?

[gray ice]

It's not like a run around 1 tapping all the time like I do with gunners, it takes setup but it's pretty great

you can't use thrust on a light

[opaque island]

yea, so you're using lights mainly instead of heavies im guessing?

[gray ice]

not mainly but the lights pick out single targets and is faster than the heavy special

I have enough dmg that I don't have to charge to kill gunners, 2 lights to the head kills. shotgunners are a 1 shot uncharged

[opaque island]

ironhelm or crucis?

[hard nexus]

empowered lights?

[gray ice]

so I only charge for ragers, crushers, bulwarks and such

[gray ice]

ye

[gray ice]

crucis, actually haven't tried ironhelm yet

[hard nexus]

carapace, 5 marty stacks, sustained assault/slaughterer?

[placid fiber]

cough monsters COUGH

:3

[gray ice]

BonBON I COME FOR THEE

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-eating-delightful-taste-gif-21383868

[gray ice]

usually 6 stacks believe I have sustained too

[placid fiber]

We just need to edit one of those as a beast of nurgle head sticking out lol

[misty nova]

Grut me
I have to get knife mastery

[opaque island]

you're welcome!

:^)

[brisk island]

what flamer blessings u guys use

[copper hawk]

Penetrating flames blaze away

[placid fiber]

Blaze away and penetrating flames/overpressure/inspiring barrage

[brisk island]

what is "strength"?

[placid fiber]

the new name for power

[brisk island]

ohh

[copper hawk]

Yah

[placid fiber]

power is damage, stagger, cleave

[copper hawk]

Damage cleave etc

[brisk island]

kk thanks

did that change with unlocked?

[placid fiber]

and the damage bonus from power multiplies with damage bonus

[brisk island]

ah Isee

cool

[gray ice]

[brisk island]

Ive been running combat axe and flamer, its so fun

[placid fiber]

so 25% melee damage with 25% power would be 1.0 x 1.25 x 1.25 for the total damage multiplier

[brisk island]

[brisk island]

is fan the flames not good?

[copper hawk]

no not rlly

[gray ice]

uhh not really no

[plucky gate]

people only used to use that back when we had like no blessing options

[placid fiber]

No

[gray ice]

it makes the primary stagger more and it already staggers a lot

[brisk island]

ah okay

[plucky gate]

back when we had 2 dps blessings and one of them didn't even function

[placid fiber]

Yep

[gray ice]

PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH

welp, least we're passed that now

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/mission-impossible-we-got-this-you-got-this-aja-oh-yeah-gif-9140872

[misty nova]

Aaaaa I hate knife

[amber igloo]

I love the knife, but feel dirrty using it

the crutchest of the crutch

nerf knife already

[paper harness]

event is so good man

[placid fiber]

They did, by giving us the dueling sword

[amber igloo]

Outside of CIVI, I'll take knife any given day

DS4 is just dull as fuck

it's better on vet anyhow

50% WP + thrust goes keklol

[paper harness]

Heavy sword 7 supremacy

[placid fiber]

Honestly I'm more interested in the m2 dueling sword, since they gave it a good heavy 1

[amber igloo]

yea I prefer mk2 on zealot

DS4 mixed hordeclear is dog

but than again, knife6 is just better

I have a carapace unyield precog DS4 for CIVI and that's bout it

weapon spec at least have agile to help with light spam hordeclear

[placid fiber]

My friend who used to play Darktide mained heavy sword, and he always told me the mk7 was the best one >.>

[paper harness]

@marsh cape gg man

[amber igloo]

bro mk7 HS is like playing drunk

wtf is that moveset

not a single horizontal or vertical

[paper harness]

people when they lie

also people when they lie

[pseudo oxide]

just seems like a worse thunderhammer tbh

[rocky nacelle]

false

[pseudo oxide]

you 6 shot a crusher

or 7 idk

[paper harness]

5% of spawns

irrelevent

[pseudo oxide]

the other 95 still get heavy attacked

[rocky nacelle]

crusher can 1 shot crushers

and with a skullcrusher slaughterer IJ setup its a quick 2 piece combo usually

[pseudo oxide]

IJ?

[rocky nacelle]

right keystone

inexo judgement (momentum)

@spare talon (there's a woman behind you at this very moment)

[merry flume]

he doesn't play hardtide in mp mode

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/step-back-i-think-im-gonna-vommit-im-gonna-vommit-university-i-think-im-gonna-vommit-i-will-vommit-gif-24326354

why would u nerf ur crusher

w thrust..

[paper harness]

I have 3

[merry flume]

wow 100 win streak...

[paper harness]

Non auric

[copper hawk]

what's hardtide

is it good mod

!?

[merry flume]

i like it

its just a winstreak mod

[vast basin]

it counts your winstreaks on a loadout

but it also has a leaderboard

[merry flume]

prob the hardest thing to do in the game is to get multiple wins in a row

esp when you are a solo pubber

its possible to do but i do not feel like trying that hard every game, i use it mostly for finding other people in the wild

[vast basin]

man I just played a 12veg with 11 total deaths, that was fun

[misty wraith]

chorus is so stronk holy hell

[amber igloo]

why would you charge every single heavy lol

[merry flume]

its funny

[amber igloo]

its a giant waste of DPS

[vast basin]

clearly he just wants to watch the world burn

[pseudo oxide]

anyone got a nutty build they like to use on thunder hammer?
questioning whether to use fury or shroud

[paper harness]

You have posted your builds

You have no leg to stand on lmao

[amber igloo]

my build has piety my man

[paper harness]

I have also seen you play

[amber igloo]

but hey, keep twisting it to suit your argument 🙂

[misty nova]

Finally mastery with knife

Ugh I need detox

Hmm

Agile DS5 IJ

[paper harness]

Are you still certain of this

[copper hawk]

false

different niche

the crusher excels in crowd control and does tons of horde damage

moreso than the thammer does

single target is suffers

kind of

[paper harness]

Me when crusher applies 8 stacks instantly on light and the enemy cannot recover fast enough

[north sedge]

crusher is a combo weapon, hammer is big boom on a guy

[copper hawk]

yah

[paper harness]

You when you lie

[copper hawk]

i love the crusher

[copper hawk]

it's like the holy great hammer from v2

[amber igloo]

you are one angry midget aren't you

[misty nova]

Daaamn this mastery skin is hilarious

[copper hawk]

dorn plays darktide too much

darktide is like the warp

[pseudo oxide]

how is loner a useful talent?

[copper hawk]

if u come in contact w it too much u become angry

it taints u

loner isn't useful

[paper harness]

Phra, post physique

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

[brisk raft]

Time to cut off a fist

[misty nova]

It isn't

[copper hawk]

when u've lost an argument totally u go ape mode and ask for physique pictures

[copper hawk]

that shit is so funny to me

[amber igloo]

you'd hit for more than 800 if the crusher would be affected by skullcrusher 8

[copper hawk]

it's like people posting bench max

gymcel behavior

[rocky nacelle]

crusher propaganda

[amber igloo]

the debuff stays for 5s, but the dmg is not applied if you pay attention 🙂

[copper hawk]

@pseudo oxide if you want a better loner take EWEW

enemies within/enemies without

[paper harness]

You are just actually fucking dumb

[copper hawk]

enemies r ur coherency

[misty nova]

Or Fellowship Fortitude

[amber igloo]

numbers are hard to argue with buddy

[pseudo oxide]

im trying to make a build for thunderhammer cause online builds are dogshit and i want too many things

[paper harness]

That’s why you can’t consistently damage mog

[pseudo oxide]

not enough talent points

[misty nova]

FF my beloved

[north sedge]

i prefer fury on hammer, it's better overall dmg

[rocky nacelle]

thats not disdain

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[copper hawk]

what's the one on the left

use that one

benediction?

yah

[rocky nacelle]

benediction -> beacon of purity -> loner

crazy zealot only has 1 aura

[pseudo oxide]

for martydom you dont have to lose maximum health just be low on health right?

[north sedge]

yea the wound can just be empty, doesnt need to be corrupted

hey purity is useful (on twins only really)

[rocky nacelle]

purity is goated on twins

and pox gas

(but pox gas spams veggie stimms anyway)

at least middle tree nodes are funny for bolter maxxing

[pseudo oxide]

does hammer of faiths 30% impact damage, increase all damage by 30%? say a thunder hammer heavy?

[amber igloo]

impact = stagger

no more

[north sedge]

ive never actually done pox gas

[pseudo oxide]

it doesnt increase damage?

[amber igloo]

nop

[north sedge]

nope

[pseudo oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

i've been using it thinking it increases damage

[copper hawk]

nope

nice of darktide 2 make up all these words

when they could just say stagger

[misty nova]

It's ugh

[copper hawk]

Strength, Power, Damage are the only things that mean Damage

[misty nova]

Complicated

[north sedge]

they should add another one called knockabout

[copper hawk]

Or, well, also increase damage rather

[north sedge]

or slump em over

[brisk raft]

Name an effect Maybe Damage

[copper hawk]

Lmfao yah

And then on different weapons it does different things

[north sedge]

"daily special"

mystery meat

[copper hawk]

I love how Mobility on Ogryn weapons can be the dodge limit/distance

And on other Ogryn weapons it's not

Me when words mean nothing

[paper harness]

I should remember the “person” I am arguing with actually puts coherency delay on curios

[copper hawk]

Dorn how can u mald for this long

Go consult w the grubs

[paper harness]

Maybe phra can get a guest spot on the ogrynomicon

[copper hawk]

It is only game

https://tenor.com/view/calm-truth-nuke-truth-truke-soyjak-gif-1725426560853991281

[amber igloo]

you are really obsessed with me kid, take a deep breath, touch some grass

[merry flume]

im so glad the only game i'm this held up about is monhun

😌

[amber igloo]

It'll do you good

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-blingee-dolphin-picmix-gif-12978169509439366364

@hard nexus why don't you play games with me anymore 😔

queue up for a maelstrom and there are 2 xbox vets

https://tenor.com/view/electro-kingdom-black-magic-gif-19337815

[south grove]

yep

and I'm his #1 superfan!!!!~

also I straight up blacked out

dunno why

[lucid cypress]

:clueless:

[hushed knoll]

Why does this look like one of my folders from elementary school in 2002

[tame mirage]

FUNNY

[south grove]

me when I spread misinformation

[south grove]

you gonna use this?

[hushed knoll]

huh

[fleet zealot]

Finesse

Is weakspot and crit damage

[south grove]

I JUST found out you're a vtuber

[fleet zealot]

🤓

[south grove]

I dunno how

[fleet zealot]

Was

Im basically permanent vacation for the time being

[south grove]

retirement?

what happened

[fleet zealot]

Not really plus i wasnt corpo

[copper hawk]

Lmfao true

[fleet zealot]

Moved

New place has me stuck on bad wifi

[pseudo oxide]

is max + wounds 1?

[wary kite]

What do you guys think of bladed momentum

[fleet zealot]

Yes

[wary kite]

Yuh

[fleet zealot]

Bad too short duration

[tame mirage]

yes

im not empowering it

[south grove]

thank god you're joking

[fleet zealot]

Wont ever be up when you need it, makes your deathblow breakpoints on normal swings worse than ht significantly

[south grove]

I thought you're a damage dump lobotomite

[sour oxide]

goonin

[south grove]

I agree

I desperately need a pair of good nods

[wary kite]

Shame, was hoping I could finally get rending on my heavy sword

[hushed knoll]

[amber igloo]

Just use it with a hand cannon revolver, oh wait

good times

[wary kite]

What happened to hand cannon revolver?

I am out of the loop

[amber igloo]

it worked with melee

[sour oxide]

only 50 grand for a pair of L3Harris

[amber igloo]

you had rending on crits

[wary kite]

Ah I see

[amber igloo]

just by having one equipped

[copper hawk]

Tin y do u need nods

[frozen kernel]

He’s not a big fan of the government

[south grove]

I think I'll just enlist and steal a pair

[pseudo oxide]

how do you get 7 wounds?

3 from curio and 2 from talent tree

[wary kite]

Play on easier difficulties

[south grove]

there's +2 wound talent down the martyr tree

then you take 3 curios

then your 2 default wound

[pseudo oxide]

only at 6

[frozen kernel]

3 wound curios + node above Marty

[south grove]

2+2+3=7

[paper harness]

You work at L3?

[frozen kernel]

Oh yeah node(s) plural

I always forget about the second one

[south grove]

I like tinkering

[sour oxide]

I am L3

[pseudo oxide]

but you'll never get 7 active cause your last wound is the 7th and you'd die if that went empty?

[amber igloo]

Oh hey Trauma