zealot-class

[rotund shoal]

probably knife yes

[placid fiber]

Also: For real? Baja Blast pie is real...?!

[frosty herald]

Goku killing thr entire earth population by using spirit bomb 20 times versus the ginyu force

[placid fiber]

I thought I was way tf off base with mountain dew pecan pie lol

[rotund shoal]

or rashad

[fleet zealot]

Yea i tried the baja blast gelato, it was pretty mid sorbet actually

But the pie is supposed to come out december/january

[placid fiber]

I mean... it's baja blast... as something it shouldn't be lol

That's like putting peanut butter in your ramin

[fleet zealot]

I know i was just expecting something close to a gelato texture

[fleet zealot]

I mean that is an asian thing

Peanuts are in savory dishes

[placid fiber]

I'm talking peanut butter, not peanuts

[fleet zealot]

Yea?

Peanut butter isn’t normally sweetened

Sure your jif and skippy are

But natural peanut butter is just peanut and salt

[sullen forge]

It’s not American unless it’s jam packed with unhealthy amounts of additives

[placid fiber]

^

Like uh...

Radium...

[fleet zealot]

Lead

[placid fiber]

Don't forget paint thinner or w/e

[sullen forge]

Arsenic 😋

[north sedge]

peanut butter noodles are a thing

[placid fiber]

fuck that lol

[fleet zealot]

Yea lol dpw needs to up his palette game

[north sedge]

only had it once but pretty good

[placid fiber]

Next thing you know it's gonna be jelly and ramin... and mustard...

[fleet zealot]

Slippery slope fallacy

[placid fiber]

Someone's probably done it...

[fleet zealot]

Eat some proper pad thai as an opener

[royal vortex]

slopes CANNOT be slippery.

[placid fiber]

Okay, Stan...

Just like Cats can't eat cheese

[sullen forge]

Mustard Gas

[placid fiber]

Yummy

Deadly

[plucky gate]

I've been to a restaurant with peanut butter ramen

[placid fiber]

Might as well drink radium at that point

[placid fiber]

Whah

As they say in the game

Based on ur pfp

[plucky gate]

it was pretty good

[placid fiber]

since I've played hollow knight >.>

[plucky gate]

[placid fiber]

They got a roll at you attack?! Come on, man, what the hell?!

[royal vortex]

me full of all 3

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

That's what u think

[placid fiber]

Why are you trying to level up in the crab souls game?!

[rotund shoal]

is it wrong reply

crab souls is hollow knight no

[placid fiber]

No you use microplastics in that game to level up

[rotund shoal]

aaah

[rotund shoal]

wtf they made dark souls but crab

[placid fiber]

Yep lol

It's actually pretty decent as well

[rotund shoal]

never doubted it

[placid fiber]

I watched Barb(who has played and beaten all of from soft's soul games) beat it

[rotund shoal]

adding it to my list after i finish playing all the dead spaces

[placid fiber]

iirc Barb even did soul level 1 for the dlc for elden ring as well

[rotund shoal]

i did a sl1 run for base elden ring

dlc is different story

not that masochistic

[plucky gate]

that reminds me, haven't finished my sl1

haven't done placidusax

[placid fiber]

I mean he also beat all of the fromsoft souls games(including sekiro) without dying as well. Haven't seen him do a deathless of the dlc yet

[rotund shoal]

godrun was hob no

[placid fiber]

Even beat malenia

[plucky gate]

ngl malenia sl1 probably took me like 7 hours of attempts

[rotund shoal]

technically i didnt either then

[placid fiber]

Remember: Only you can raid Hyrule castle... as broccoli...

[rotund shoal]

only did mandatory bosses

[plucky gate]

did you at least attempt malenia?

[rotund shoal]

nop

although i probably could

never found it that difficult

[placid fiber]

Barb did malenia after he beat elden beast, on his no death run

dual halberds be stronk

[plucky gate]

idk if i'll bother trying dlc sl1

maybe i will since radahn nerf

pre nerf would destroy me i think

[placid fiber]

Behold: Broccoli link png file!

[paper harness]

Pussy

[rotund shoal]

elden beast is the worst

that star will haunt my fkin nightmares

[paper harness]

Terrible fight overall

[plucky gate]

good thing they added torrent to it

[rotund shoal]

lmao fr?

[drifting wolf]

i heard that

[rotund shoal]

huh seems they did

[drifting wolf]

big if true

[plucky gate]

they did on dlc patch

[rotund shoal]

the gap closing is not even the worst part since its easy to dodge all those attacks

[plucky gate]

new players will never know our pain

[rotund shoal]

but dodging a melee combo while you have the star on you

feels like rng

[drifting wolf]

elden ring is saved

[plucky gate]

took them like 2 years to fix the fight

[fleet zealot]

Im sorry buffalo wild wings

I wasn’t familiar with your game

[placid fiber]

For owning up to it, here you go

[fleet zealot]

Just had an ecstatic bacon patty melt for lunch

[placid fiber]

Sounds delicious

[fleet zealot]

14$, 2 patties, double thick cut bacon, bacon aioli, swiss and american cheese

And fries

And a drink

[opal star]

the amount of flamers and scab bombers on hi intensity

[fleet zealot]

The only place here that makes a better burger is a local place in the 18-25 price range

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile you get 2 mcdonalds are you can get 2 shitty mcdoubles for like... a little under $5... Yeah I'll take that burger over mcdoubles lol

[fleet zealot]

And that doesn’t include your drink

[fleet zealot]

Under 5? Lol those are on our 2 for 5 menu here

[opal star]

mcslople

[placid fiber]

For us it's buy 1 get another for $1

[fleet zealot]

I think they are 3$ at base or somethin insane

[placid fiber]

Yeah for shitty mcdoubles

I remember when they used to be on the dollar menu lol

times change tho

[rotund shoal]

in EU a mcdouble chili cheese is 4 euros

[fleet zealot]

Eu doesn’t have good hamburgers to compare it to /j

[placid fiber]

I blame obamacare

[rotund shoal]

i wish we had japan eating out prices

i was at one of those conveyor belt sushi places yday

[fleet zealot]

Japan has the opposite issue tho

[rotund shoal]

fkin delicious

finished 60+ plates

[fleet zealot]

Raw ingredients and cooking for yourself is more expensive but that is just how it be

[rotund shoal]

i only cook if im in a relationship otherwise the delivery driver knows me by name

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile here it's raw ingredients and cooking for ourselves is cheaper lol

Or I can go get 2 $8 tacos

or w/e

[fleet zealot]

Yea i’d prefer japan pricing

[placid fiber]

Honestly same lol

[rotund shoal]

its barely cheaper if you count it how many ingredients burritos have

since you need to buy and store everything yourself.. then you forget some of it in the fridge and it goes bad..

or you make too much and cant eat it all.. or not enough and you gotta make more

its only cheaper if you cook cheap stuff

[placid fiber]

I mean some of the ingrediants in it I can live without lol

gimme meat n cheese tacos

[fleet zealot]

Oh and my melt was on brioche like wtf

[placid fiber]

and some black olives

[fleet zealot]

How do they get away with it for 14$ with side and drink

[placid fiber]

The secret is: they can make 200 of those per box

[fleet zealot]

Screw the tacos give me a can of black olives

Enby dinner

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-the-simpsons-whatever-i-dont-care-gif-5239711

[nimble fiber]

[rotund shoal]

if you want cheap food secret is to know how to cook curry and go to a proper indian store once for the spices

then whenever you want curry just buy tomatoes and chicken

but it ends up being only like.. 50% cheaper than ordering

and it takes an hour+ to cook good curry

so honestly not sure if worth

[nimble fiber]

[placid fiber]

but... what if I don't want curry...?

[rotund shoal]

force fed

[edgy sluice]

How do we feel about opportunist on chainaxe? It seems to proc on the special, since it staggers literally everything except bosses and mutants.

I need to do more testing when I get home but I was 1 tapping a lot of things with reved lights and no damage buffs

[placid fiber]

But... but then we have a dead body... and curry on the floor...

[rotund shoal]

straight to my basement

[placid fiber]

but... then we have 8 dead bodies... and even more curry on the floor...

[rotund shoal]

arent chaxe adms pretty high already? feels like ht/slaughterer would make more sense

[edgy sluice]

I'm looking to 1 hit crushers reliably without crits, so my old setup was thrust/slaughter but it seems I can do the same without the full heavy by swapping thrust to opportunist

I guess boss damage would suffer though

[rotund shoal]

wait opportunist rev light will 1 tap crushers??

for real?

this is good info

[amber igloo]

this disc is seriously obsessed with crushers, I'll tell you taht much

[drifting wolf]

think it's usually either ht/slaughterer for better hordeclear while retaining solid single target and ht/thrust for all in single target

[rotund shoal]

which mk?

[edgy sluice]

No, just a half baked heavy

[drifting wolf]

mk13

[edgy sluice]

Mk 12 or w/e the newer one

[fleet zealot]

Mk12 thrust slaught/ht

[drifting wolf]

forgot if its 12 or 13 lol

[fleet zealot]

Or mk4 slaught ht

[placid fiber]

I mean it's the 1 thing that randos can't handle a lot of the time lol

[amber igloo]

they are also one of the least threatening enemies

[placid fiber]

To us? Yeah. To randos? lol

[north sedge]

🤔

[fleet zealot]

Since mk4 angle for rev’d heavy is weird and the light spam does single target dps

[amber igloo]

I will never ever build around em lol

outside of CIVI ofc

[rotund shoal]

some reddit posts are too funny about that "yeah sometimes you get a crusher pack and your whole team wipes thats aurics for you"

[edgy sluice]

I haven't tested opportunist on the older one because I was at lunch and In a hurry

[rotund shoal]

no moron you just havent heard of the dodge button

[placid fiber]

[fleet zealot]

Most pubbers only plan for a single crusher if at all

Which sucks but that is how it is

[placid fiber]

Yeah randos be lacking in the intelligence sections of the brain

[edgy sluice]

I'm just using ease to dispatch a crusher as a bench mark, I like to be in the front fighting and usually play with randoms in aurics

[placid fiber]

"Crusher? I harderly know her" -Rando, probably...

[fleet zealot]

Vet that somehow died in the first part of archivum, rescues him, immediately before the first door opening, he mag dumps a crusher with his iag, gets pancaked cause i guess no rending/brittleness

[placid fiber]

I mean you do you, if it works then more power to you

[placid fiber]

[rotund shoal]

i make a point to politely write to those people that the noise and blue icon theyre seeing means their attacks are doing scratch damage

[placid fiber]

iag would easily 1 mag a crusher with the brittleness and rending talents

[rotund shoal]

imo thats why i think healthbars would actually be helpful

[lapis cave]

that's because crusher packs are incredibly dangerous to the average group if you don't have a means to remove them quickly?

[rotund shoal]

so many players reach level 30 without understanding carapace damage (or armor types at all)

[placid fiber]

Yep lol

[fleet zealot]

Ogryn without can opener shooting crushers with rippers and killing everyone’s ears

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile I charge in and start strikedowning them

[amber igloo]

are they really tho, its not like pugsters will try to melee them to begin with

so its just you in melee range

[fleet zealot]

Yes

A proper crusher elite pack

Is a substantial threat

[amber igloo]

meaning they gonna be on you

[fleet zealot]

Especially if it spawns in one of the hordes

[placid fiber]

Is what gets your teammates killed

"I'm front, therefor they can't get hit"

inb4 the vet aggros them

[amber igloo]

who cares about pugvets, they'll be dying anyhow

[lapis cave]

speaking of which, I have better mass crusher killing options on my vet, psyker, and ogryn than my zealot.

Can folks suggest a melee weapon that has strong horde clear but still deals with crushers quickly? I love my mk XV but revved attacks aren't it when you have 10 crushers to kill.

[vast basin]

Rashad

[amber igloo]

crusher

crusher to kill the crushers!

[placid fiber]

Then the aggro gets dispersed onto the rest of the pug

making you have to solo clutch

[lapis cave]

I have a rashad, but wasn't impressed with its crusher ttk. What'm I missing?

[placid fiber]

Which not everyone wants to do if they can help it

[amber igloo]

in other words, tuesday for zealots

[placid fiber]

You're speaking from 3k hours of experience, not 500

[lapis cave]

perks & blessings? Are you still using charged heavies?

[vast basin]

Are you using heavies? Crushers are 2-3 hits based on various factors

[amber igloo]

never use charged heavies on crusher

its only for opening bulwarks, waste of DPS on anything else

thrust slaught for me

[lapis cave]

carapace + flak?

[placid fiber]

but by using thrust you are using charged heavies

[amber igloo]

oh, I thought he meant empowered

[placid fiber]

I mean either way

It's charged

[amber igloo]

ye, you can just heavy spam on crusher with the occasional pushattack

[lapis cave]

always heavies vs crushers yeah. Stupid that I can spec a vet to one shot crushers with a duelling sword, and can't manage the same thing on zealot

[placid fiber]

Vet has more stupid talents that allow for it

[rotund shoal]

how the hell is dead space supposed to be scary isaac is the biggesst badass ive seen in my life

hes basically smart doom guy

[placid fiber]

wall babies

and the tentacle

[vast basin]

Rashad can one hit crushers with ability use

Maybe even without if you are maxed Marty and get a crit

[lapis cave]

zealot charge or are you talking martyr? I prefer not to run martyr these days

[fleet zealot]

He’s an engineer

And he solves practical problems

[amber igloo]

@lapis cave the only time I will ever put carapace on my melee, is the DS4 used for CIVIs, crusher will keep em CCed anyhow.

[lapis cave]

so maniac + flak then?

[vast basin]

I was talking charge but rashad+Marty is a busted combo

[amber igloo]

can never go wrong with that 2

but I didn't check BPs, don't really care about em

[placid fiber]

Again: You're speaking from 3k+ hours of experience, not everyone has 3k hours of experience... you're skipping steps 1-9

[lapis cave]

I haven't been using those weapons since the patch. I'll get 'em leveled up and tinker

[amber igloo]

I can only speak from my perspective

[lapis cave]

oh any mark recommendations?

[placid fiber]

When giving good advice you need to put aside your personal preferences... otherwise you're giving people 3k+ hour advice, and not solid learning advice

[north sedge]

simply just one shot everything and dodge everything perfectly it's very easy

[amber igloo]

Telling newbies to put carapace on their melees in not misleading?

[placid fiber]

Other things you have told them are

[amber igloo]

Wasting a perk for a threat that takes up 5% of the enemy mass?

Fixating on the rarest and mildly threatening enemy type is not misleading?

[north sedge]

cara is good on certain weapons

[amber igloo]

Come on now

[placid fiber]

And yeah a lot of weapons would benefit more from elites, but, straight up telling them this sucks so don't use it doesn't give good advice

[fleet zealot]

Crusher and maulers for AP weapons

[amber igloo]

New players should focus on the fundamentals before caring about anything else.

[fleet zealot]

Those BPs are def impactful if the perk gives them it

[fleet zealot]

Bps is fundementals

[placid fiber]

And by removing some stress can help make it easier

[amber igloo]

Crutches will only get you so far, solid fundamentals let you do whatever you want

No, BPs matter very little with the density DT have.

[fleet zealot]

BP and ttks

Lol what

[placid fiber]

Depends on the weapon

[amber igloo]

yea ofc

[placid fiber]

If it's a rashad, it lives and dies on breakpoints

[amber igloo]

yes

But crusher BPs? Who gives a shit outside CIVI

[placid fiber]

Players who want that stress removed immediately

[amber igloo]

Get good at dodging and run circles around em

[lapis cave]

phra wasn't talking to me about the rashad for what it's worth.

But to contravert that, I'd rather hit crusher and mauler BPs than anything else

[north sedge]

simply just blow on a dandelion and wish away the enemies it's that easy

[amber igloo]

Yea, fundamentals before anything else

than you don't have to stress anymore

[fleet zealot]

Even minus the deathblow/bm weapons the slower the weapon/ the less ammo the weapon fires the more important bps are

Bolter, revolver

[placid fiber]

^

Slow weapons definitely live and die off of bps

[edgy sluice]

Shouldn't breakpoints determine what perks are equipped? Who cares if you are running carapace/unyielding if you are already 1 tapping all maniacs already?

[lapis cave]

CIVI?

don't recognize the acronym

[amber igloo]

the melee only one

[fleet zealot]

Singleshot vanguard cause fuck you fatshark vraks 7 headhunter for 2 years wasn’t goo enough

[amber igloo]

with shitton of maulers and crushers

[lapis cave]

ooooh gotcha

[placid fiber]

scab only, melee mostly, waves of specialists

no ammo pickups

[fleet zealot]

There is nothing stopping a normal auric from having a weird spawning seed or a variant horde full of maulers/crushers

[lapis cave]

yeah, the way I prefer to play zealot is to kill literally everything with melee except specialists, so that's the loadout I'm driving toward anyway

[amber igloo]

The way I see it, it's more important to get good at not dying, than you can worry about minmaxing later.

[placid fiber]

yeah even in normal damnation I've had packs of 6+ crushers spawn multiple times during the mission

[fleet zealot]

I not die by killing things gooder

Ooga booga cavezealot fundementals

[placid fiber]

Yeah, crusher breakpoints isn't minmaxing. It's making sure the threat you want gone first is able to be dealt with faster, rather than using something that helps you perform better overall

[amber igloo]

Yea I stopped playing zealot calculated before p13, run headfirst into everything, figure it out later

lot more fun

[fleet zealot]

A fuckin, worst variant horde ive witnessed was flanking reapers, bulwarks and crushers mixed in with the trash

[north sedge]

simply vibe your way to victory it's what the pros do

[fleet zealot]

Shit still gives me nightmares and waking up in cold sweats

[placid fiber]

We have the ability go to balls to the walls and make it out, new players don't

[plucky gate]

reaper flanks are actually the worst thing to exist

[placid fiber]

So giving people advice like just charging in with 0 thought altogether, will just get them killed faster

[plucky gate]

a reaper you didn't expect just blasting you is so disorientating

[lapis cave]

this, trying to make it more effective and survivable for me in damnation auric etc.

[amber igloo]

Now on a pyker for instance, I will minmax. For once, he is MUCH squishier, and also, I'm much worse at

But zealot is unkillable, you can just chill and do whatever the fk you want

And you get better at zealot by putting yourself into fked up situations.

At least that's how it worked for me

But than again, full heal pre13 with Rashad keklol.

[plucky gate]

yeah all my zealot builds have just been unkillable braindead shit

[amber igloo]

Having a full heal every 90s made it that much easier to get better at it.

[plucky gate]

i remember back in the days of abusing 75% crit dr

now i play martyrdom with some crit

[amber igloo]

Actually, it was Anthax before p13, Rashad still had body prio

That was some infuriating shit

Did they even say whether it was intended?

[placid fiber]

I remember when crab mastered the rashad when it was like that

[plucky gate]

no idea

[amber igloo]

You could use the Rashad, just not with BM

[fleet zealot]

I miss crab

My helbore crustacean

[placid fiber]

same

I also remember when he was doing knife revolver lol

[plucky gate]

yeah i remember his revolver clips

[paper harness]

He’s gone

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1284620687012659200/4x-2.gif

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[south grove]

crab?

did they kill off marksman's focus

[placid fiber]

tiny angry crab

[placid fiber]

No, no, it was something much more reasonable:

[fleet zealot]

40 fucking reapers

[placid fiber]

Nah, nah... it'd be 120 fucking reapers

[fleet zealot]

12 reapers is just a casual tf2 lobby

[placid fiber]

At that point you just alt f4 lol

when it's 120 of em

[fleet zealot]

Game would crash for you

[placid fiber]

Case and point ^

[rotund shoal]

forty fucking gooners

[placid fiber]

Nah, that's just a regular Tuesday

[shy river]

I do not like the SCP trollface

[placid fiber]

the happiest troll? lol

They are each seperate happiest troll emotes >:3

[fleet zealot]

Slaanesh hordes be like

[rotund shoal]

attack gimp go!

[polar nexus]

He was a god with the bolter

[timid bobcat]

Good player, ran into him a couple of times a year ago when I stopped playing

[polar nexus]

That's basically how I played dead space. By slowly dismantling enemies and crushing them.

[rotund shoal]

currently my biggest enemy is my lack of ammo and greediness

i have 20k credits but fk me if i will spend any to buy ammo

so im using the flamethrower and ripper blades but they feel amazinggg

[placid fiber]

inb4 dead space 2 where you could take the slashing arms with telekenesis and stab them with it

[rotund shoal]

i wish there was more stuff to impale them with

but theres plenty of explody canisters

so thats great

[south grove]

they're calling healthbars cheats again on the subreddit

[placid fiber]

Ah yes, barrels... in the 1 game you could use them offensively more easily...

[south grove]

said "you won't need to play lights out again"

[placid fiber]

Dude... it's reddit... reddit isn't known for intelligence or common sense

[polar nexus]

Wait you could not to that in ds1??

[fleet zealot]

It’s literally accessibility imo

[polar nexus]

I don't remember

[placid fiber]

idk about dead space 1, and I forget about the remake... but you could do that in dead space 2

[south grove]

they think the health bar is present immediately when the enemies spawn

[south grove]

blocked

[paper harness]

Sniping streamers again lmao

[polar nexus]

I just started the remake

[south grove]

I hate vtubers

[fleet zealot]

Def one of the gray areas but like

Im visually impaired and don’t want to turn off ragdolls

[fleet zealot]

Yea lol they have to be damaged first

[south grove]

healthbars is just breakpoint tracking

[placid fiber]

oh boy... they have a healthbar you can look at... so cheat...

[south grove]

any good players knows their breakpoint at heart

[fleet zealot]

Block me too 😢

[south grove]

it's an accessiblity feature imo

[placid fiber]

I don't know what a vtuber is lol

[rotund shoal]

healthbars 100% helps its why i have it but calling it cheating is dumb

[polar nexus]

God I hate those streamers using anime characters

[south grove]

CIA psyop

it's real

[placid fiber]

Sure...

[fleet zealot]

I can’t tell a dying body from a staggering body on some of these animations

[placid fiber]

Yeah ^

[rotund shoal]

its not just breakpoints its also for stuff like "my teammate left this crusher on 20hp so i can light attack it once instead of going for my cruhser combo"

[south grove]

yeh

me too

[fleet zealot]

Everyone just hates vtubers weh

[south grove]

I hate mainstream ones

that's all

[placid fiber]

I could care less about vtubers

[rotund shoal]

or "this mutant has been damage i can just go for face stab and not have to get a crit"

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/gura-gawr-gura-sad-sad-face-shark-gif-21064606

[south grove]

yea kill that thing

[fleet zealot]

That aint a mainstream vtuber dorn posted

[south grove]

I can't recognise which is which bc I don't follow

[shell steeple]

New to the game I see that there’s a no stealth meta build that’s highly favored I think but I thought stealth was the best thing about the class

[placid fiber]

Oh that's what a vtuber is

[shell steeple]

Specially Shroudfield I always hear about

[placid fiber]

Yeah I could care less about vtubers...

[rotund shoal]

those builds on gameslantern are pretty bad

[fleet zealot]

That’s easily a vrchat tier model

[south grove]

but whenever something comes up that looks familiar I start hating on it

[rotund shoal]

stealth is actually good its just easily a crutch for new players so people in this chat often recommend against it

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/fuwamoco-hololive-advent-today-moco-chan-mococo-gif-12731659572717252228

[south grove]

imagine putting it in a baseball game!

[shell steeple]

That’s what was I was wondering which is why I joined the discord im tryna find the best place for builds

[placid fiber]

It looks like anime...

[fleet zealot]

Oh yea that happened lol

[south grove]

basically that

[lapis cave]

advice on opening bulwarks with a rashad?

[fleet zealot]

The fuckin, gawr gura singing take me out to the ball game

[south grove]

you rig a model to your face tracking and now you're a live anime character

[wraith cipher]

the players the patch brought back are not it T_T

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/dodgers-gura-gawr-gura-vtuber-hololive-gif-1901184448985859362

[placid fiber]

Wait for them to swing... then Axe them a question head first

[south grove]

actual dystopia

[wraith cipher]

people be going down in the first 5 min of mission

[south grove]

late stage capitalism

[fleet zealot]

It’s so peak

[frosty herald]

They did not lie

[fleet zealot]

Imagine all the confused 40+ers

[frosty herald]

Great ape vegeta is extremely bullshit

[placid fiber]

Again it looks anime

[lapis cave]

haha advice on doing that when facing a pack of like 4-6?

[rotund shoal]

do you have a preference for weapons?

[placid fiber]

Pray

[fleet zealot]

Grenade or bolter

[placid fiber]

^

[south grove]

boltgun

[fleet zealot]

If you have neither you have to just kite them until they break up and avoid being cornered

[polar nexus]

There's a dedicated channel for that if you want more specific information. It's pinned.

[shell steeple]

So far Heavy Eviscerator . Haven’t tried the melee options unlocked past it but im curious of the thunder hammer

[shell steeple]

Thank ya thank ya

[polar nexus]

You can ask here

[placid fiber]

if the thammer what?

[south grove]

shock maul's a good weapon

easy to pick up after learning crushers

[slate notch]

on Kantrael do you want deathspitter or dum-dum? Both?

[placid fiber]

thammer is a bit of a skill based weapon of knowing when to do what, except on the ironhelm

[shell steeple]

lol meant to say curious OF my b. Just how it plays and feels

[placid fiber]

ironhelm you just special heavy 1/2

[south grove]

Ia?

[placid fiber]

unless big boi

then u special heavy 3

Crucis u heavy spam hordes

[wraith cipher]

how do you access heavies further down a chain?

special

[rotund shoal]

@shell steeple this is "the default" build more or less all optimized builds are just variations of this depending on the weapon

[placid fiber]

Push

[slate notch]

Sorry, meant Accatran

[placid fiber]

after the push is the heavy 3

[wraith cipher]

push three times for heavy 3?

oh

makes sense

[placid fiber]

They made that useful change

[rotund shoal]

if your weapon has crit you take scourge + enduring faith for that sweet 30% crit and 50% tdr

[south grove]

Recon Las works well with dum dum

I used to run dum dum infernus

but that's on vet

dunno about zealots

[rotund shoal]

eviscerator doesnt do well with crit necessarily so your build will look more like in the image

[wraith cipher]

recon las really shines on pskyer and vet, i wouldnt on zealot

[placid fiber]

dum dum deathspitter or dum dum infernus I think

[slate notch]

And mk? Anyone in particular?

[rotund shoal]

for eviscerator II (the first one you get) the best combo is usually rampage + savage sweep

rampage being the most important part

free 36% dmg

[south grove]

I heard the VIIa is dead now

wait there's new names

[placid fiber]

Feels vastly better than it used to before the big update

[south grove]

lemme check them

[rotund shoal]

for evis 15 its rampage + whatever (preference)

[placid fiber]

Still requires skill on knowing when to do what for the Crucis... but the crucis has heavier specials

[wraith cipher]

i would aruge sweep is the more important and rampage is interchangeable

[south grove]

yea avoid XIV this update

[rotund shoal]

sweep just helps your heavy horde clear

[slate notch]

Yeah, I'm so confused with the new names too

[rotund shoal]

which is actually pretty good without it as well

[slate notch]

gotcha

[rotund shoal]

rampage is a straight up 36% damage boost

[wraith cipher]

i know

[rotund shoal]

and sweep literally doesnt do anything on evis 15

[wraith cipher]

i know

[slate notch]

I'm enjoying MIc particularly

[placid fiber]

Imagine: Potatoes... with cheese...

[south grove]

yea it's getting more love this update

used to be VId and VIIa stomping

now the middle child gets to shine

[wraith cipher]

this is what evis 15 shouldve been

they massacred my boy

[south grove]

power claymore

trust

[plucky gate]

it's also cleave too unless they changed it.
It's power and not damage, desc is wrong

[placid fiber]

THat is what the mk15 eviscerator's moveset is

[wraith cipher]

yeah but 4 cleave

[placid fiber]

Only as a chain weapon

[wraith cipher]

or whatever

lol

[placid fiber]

It has like 10 cleave on the lights lol

[lapis cave]

I mean, it mostly is. It just falls off at high diff because it struggles with mixed hordes that have a lot of carapace in them

[fleet zealot]

Power is now strength

[spare dome]

like it ...

it just fucking is the xsword

i dont even know what to say

[placid fiber]

So now I just gotta be working out in the gym to do better in Darktide?

[wraith cipher]

i mean its not, with how vermintide works

[uncut steeple]

is the thammer worth getting into after the buff

[wraith cipher]

you get like 30% attack speed

and like additional 25% from talents

[rotund shoal]

i want the highland sword from chiv

[south grove]

absolutely

[rotund shoal]

so i can drag some ragers

like n00bs

[fleet zealot]

And exec sword heavies still took a year to come out

Just pretend the rev is part the long animation

[south grove]

I just hit a rabbit hole

[rotund shoal]

you sure about that? kulis guide says just damage

[placid fiber]

My wife has been learning from me... I said "Well?" and she said "It's an awful deep subject"

[rotund shoal]

also why the hell cant i find any blessing names in the source code?

your name is json do you know what theyre called

(assuming some sort of programmer)

[plucky gate]

maybe it was fixed? There was also a time it had both effects of damage and power and ended up being like 70% more damage.

dunno the blessing names sorry

[lusty turtle]

ye it got changed to power ages back iirc

they just forgor

[lapis cave]

I don't use it, but why does sweep do nothing for the heavy evisc?

[drifting wolf]

what does the mk15 want aside from rampage

[drifting wolf]

it can only damage 4 targets at a time

[rotund shoal]

lights are the only vanguard (wide) attacks and theyre capped to 4 targets

on evis II (now III) you have heavies which are uncapped

i cant remember if push attacks are capped or not

but you go push attack > heavy for horde clear

among other combos

[lapis cave]

so does that mean that all the cleave blessings do nothing on evisc? Common wisdom was wrath + rampage prev

[amber igloo]

we need a separate fuckin queue for smykers

fuckin tired of this shit

[rotund shoal]

on 15? yes its useless

adds very little damage

wrath is also just a worse savage sweep on nearly all weps

[lapis cave]

ah, only useful on tigris III because of heavy attack cleave

[wraith cipher]

just come to the chaxes guys, we have thrust and 16 stack bloodletter

[plucky gate]

All i remember is, it used to be damage
Then patch 13 came and they added power but it was bugged to still also give you the damage, giving you both buffs
Since then it probably has been patched to only be power now but idk
Patch note from patch 13

[rotund shoal]

36% power is crazy

[wraith cipher]

oh shit

[rotund shoal]

definitely bis

[wraith cipher]

its power

i thought it was just damage

i am wrong then bis

lol

[plucky gate]

it was busted when it was bugged to have both

36% damage + 36% power in a single blessing

wild times

i can only assume it has been fixed but i haven't been paying attention to patch notes around that time

surely it's just power now

[wraith cipher]

Surely

i use rampage sweep but never liked rampage becausei thought it was only straight damage

[north sedge]

Even it was just dmg it still would be bis

[wraith cipher]

i like utility

so i tend not to damage stack when i can fit it

[rotund shoal]

OK I found it, in the source code blessings are called "weapon traits" and they dont have their names at all, theyre just described by what they do. For example the Rev it Up is called templates.weapon_trait_bespoke_chainsword_2h_p1_movement_speed_on_activation

It is power

templates.weapon_trait_bespoke_chainsword_2h_p1_increased_melee_damage_on_multiple_hits
...
                                active_duration = 3.5,
                                stat_buffs = {
                                        [stat_buffs.melee_power_level_modifier] = 0.36,
                                },

cant wait to use my chainsword_2h_p1 with increased_melee_damage_on_multiple_hits!

for future reference the folder is scripts/settings/equipment/weapon_traits

its very weird to me that the name of the blessing is nowhere in the source code. either the localization data is not included or its all stored in the backend

[undone pewter]

Mod that makes all the weapon names, blessing and perks like that

[thorn sable]

Localization can often leak new features so devs tend to be more careful about it these days

Same idea as steam locking their database’s release info down

[rotund shoal]

makes sense

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-dog-extreme-violence-violence-meme-gif-163156379093848667

Sorry i must be soft hearted but the new twin vtubers are so cute

[plucky gate]

why is there vtubers in this chat?

[thorn sable]

Zealot chat be about zealots challenge level impossible

[timid bobcat]

How's flamer these days?

[thorn sable]

Pretty solid tbh

[plucky gate]

i like bringing the crit reload talent on my crit build

literally never reload

[placid fiber]

same as it has always been: Good

[plucky gate]

not even an exaggeration

[uncut steeple]

dump stat on thammer is defense right

[north sedge]

Yep

[uncut steeple]

ty

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/211203478284926976/1281888137626517504/caption.gif

[placid fiber]

ur damage is too high

[timid bobcat]

Makes me happy, I'm a DoTs enjoyer

[placid fiber]

What are you trying to do, show off on how maxorly your demage is? @paper harness

[timid bobcat]

Also you've been her since a year ago, just remembered seeing your name

[placid fiber]

[plucky gate]

why do you have 3 of the same emote?

[placid fiber]

Because... I hold the power here

The power... of trolldom...

[sweet onyx]

okay so
how the fuck do i play zealot

[placid fiber]

Dodge, duck, dip, dive, and dodge

Not only the 5 d's of dodgeball, but, also the 5 d's of zealoting

It's like the other classes: You need to know when to use your melee/ranged, and when to play it safe, what to watch out for, what to prioritize, etc

You have all the options from backstabber to berserker

to fucking shouty boi staggering monsters off of cliffs

Depending on your playstyle, that can limit what will work for you

For me I have bad aim so for zealot that removes the revolver as a useable weapon for me

[sweet onyx]

yeah i went with the relic but like
the intricacies and shit are lost on me with all the passives

i kinda wanna be melee focused

[placid fiber]

That can be any of the keystones

[sweet onyx]

actually if im melee focused i shouldnt be using the relic should i

[north sedge]

Everything is melee focused

[placid fiber]

but for melee focused you probably want chastise(fury of the faithful) or shroudfield

[plucky gate]

revolver isn't that hard to aim though

[placid fiber]

I can miss 3 shots on the same enemy, multiple times per run

[plucky gate]

if you take really long to aim, you can lie to yourself and say it's for stacking surgical

[placid fiber]

<.<

[plucky gate]

the bullets are also huge anyways

but yeah you don't have to aim it very quickly if you can't

[placid fiber]

I just am better off with other ranged weapons

That's a me thing tho

I still will advise them to use the revolver for the armor pen ability

since I know what doesn't work for me, could easily work for them

Revolver is one of the better ranged options on zealot, in general

Just doesn't work well with my aiming ability on zealot, compared to Vet(ammo regen aura)

[north sedge]

Ah well I have 3000 hours on zealot and simply wish my enemies away, no weapon needed

[amber igloo]

As a zealot, YOU ARE THE BULLET

[plucky gate]

average book zealots

[placid fiber]

Basically what I'm saying is: I'm going to give advice that'll help other players get better rather than trying to use my pov as a way to lead them, since I play vastly different than the average player >.>

[amber igloo]

I need a ragtag bolt pistol skin, fatshark plox?

[plucky gate]

I also don't find ammo being that big of a concern on zealot, since i just end up meleeing more

[placid fiber]

inb4 you get the crossbow vt1 skin

[amber igloo]

anything thats not shiny will do

cant be seen using shiny weapons on a hobo

[placid fiber]

I play pretty much the same no matter the character: Like zealot with a back-up ranged weapon

[plucky gate]

i just run in like 99% of the time with zealot

i feel safer with enemies around me than without

[placid fiber]

I also hyperfocus disablers <.<

[plucky gate]

as you should

trappers deserve it

[placid fiber]

Yep

[amber igloo]

I like punching snipers to death, that counts?

[placid fiber]

I mean specials and disablers deserve deth

[plucky gate]

me chasing a sniper from across the map to melee it

[violet hornet]

Ogryn club slapping the trapper to death

[placid fiber]

Sure getting downed is bad, but, getting disabled makes it so there's nothing you can do until you are freed

Whereas in the middle of elites you can fight tooth and claw

[plucky gate]

especially for zealots, because of until death

[placid fiber]

Yep, until death lets you get away with some whacky shit

[plucky gate]

if you hit me with infinite damage,i might still win
if you trapper net me, i'm fucked

[amber igloo]

proxy lethal works on fire nade as well I assume?

lethal proxy*

[placid fiber]

Not sure, tbh

[amber igloo]

I mean, if it does on shredder, it should on fire prolly

but than again, shredder has a node for it to begin with

[placid fiber]

Shredder has an aoe bleed effect as well

instead of a pool of fire

[amber igloo]

whatever don't matter, incin has giant aoe to begin with

[placid fiber]

So 50 50 I would say

You can probably test it out in the meat grinder

[amber igloo]

yea, not sure I wanna give up surgical for a niche tho

but than again, takes about 30s to make another godroll copy of it 😄

[placid fiber]

I mean bigger fire nades = bigger area cutting enemies off

I'd say it would probably be more worth it if you had the crusher as well

That way it isn't a niche nade only buff

[placid fiber]

Basically: Learn the basics, learn what you do best with, and learn to dodge dodge dodge

By doing that you will get better with all classes

[amber igloo]

I tend to avoid power up weapons, they don't mesh with me, I could be hitting em meanwhile

I will only ever power up crusher to open bulwarks

in which case, aoe don't matter

[grizzled aspen]

Biggest tips for playing zealout:
-run second wind
-master throwing knives
-slide a lot

[amber igloo]

doesn't it also has miniscule aoe range?

[copper hawk]

doesnt the power up push attack do a bunch of damage to carapace enemies

[amber igloo]

like a third of paul?

nah

[placid fiber]

This @sweet onyx

[amber igloo]

power up give you like 100 dmg

[grizzled aspen]

You are handicapping yourself then.

[amber igloo]

you could be charging another heavy instead

[copper hawk]

the push attack does more damage than like other attacks against carapace because of the finesse modifier

[amber igloo]

I doubt that 🙂

[copper hawk]

it's weird

[grizzled aspen]

BIS blessings for crusher are slaught skullcrushers, special attack staggers everything.

[copper hawk]

yerp

[amber igloo]

agree to disagree

[grizzled aspen]

So its literally free skullcrusher damage.

[amber igloo]

thrust enjoyer

no its not

ogryns will recover quicker

the only way to proc skullcrusher on ogryns is ulting em

[placid fiber]

You can enjoy thrust all you want, but, in general skullcrusher and slaughterer will do more for less skilled players

[grizzled aspen]

Ok then you're choosing an off meta blessing for something that is subpar and only really works on your h1.

Gotcha.

[amber igloo]

you cant skullcrush ogryns with power up

[copper hawk]

noob's gonna noob

[amber igloo]

they recover quicker

[copper hawk]

noob on noob violence wont be tolerate frog

[undone pewter]

No

[copper hawk]

ur goin 2 jail

[amber igloo]

damn, thanks

[grizzled aspen]

It's not even violence.

[copper hawk]

yah lethal only works on shredders

[grizzled aspen]

It's a mercy killing.

[copper hawk]

cuz they have bleed

this was tested a while ago

[grizzled aspen]

He chooses to be wrong on purpose. That's on him.

[copper hawk]

says u

[grizzled aspen]

🤷‍♂️

[placid fiber]

I thought you said you don't build around crushers? Thrust is more built around crushers than skullcrusher is

[amber igloo]

not really

[grizzled aspen]

It literally is.

[amber igloo]

thrust is just generally very consistent

[placid fiber]

Kinda is since you stagger non-ogryns vastly easier

[amber igloo]

its very easy to cycle thrust2 heavies

[grizzled aspen]

Your h2 is not very good at being able to 1shot anything, so you're only doing h1s, and that's significantly hindering your combo potential of crusher.

[amber igloo]

still better than the absolute dogshit side light

[grizzled aspen]

Yes, thrust + slaughterer with chastise can hit a crusher 1shot, but you sacrifice a lot of utility in being able to just turn off an entire pack of ragers and kill them quickly.

[amber igloo]

you dont need power up to stagger anything lol

[grizzled aspen]

Cause, yknow, special light knocks down everything that isn't a crusher.

[placid fiber]

Again you can enjoy whatever you want, but, when giving advice you need to consider what actually is better over your own preference. I love inspiring barrage on brautos, but, the better combo is fire frenzy and deathspitter

[grizzled aspen]

Without an impact blessing, yes, you do.

[amber igloo]

well I prefer staggering AND killing them at the same time 🙂

[grizzled aspen]

Dreg ragers cannot be staggered without hammerblow or slaughterer stacks.

[amber igloo]

😄

[grizzled aspen]

Hence special light.

[amber igloo]

ok dude, I have nothing more to say

[grizzled aspen]

Knocks everything down and grants free skullcrusher stacks.

[placid fiber]

You're just digging yourself into a hole

[grizzled aspen]

Lmao.

[amber igloo]

?

[paper harness]

Don’t bother interacting with the dude who runs coherency regen

[grizzled aspen]

You're wrong and backpedaling so you're dropping the argument entirely.

[placid fiber]

Enjoy thrust for all I care, but, don't go telling new players "omg thrust is so good"

[grizzled aspen]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, arguing with the frog is not worth it.

I WILL be the egotistical one, this time.

[amber igloo]

Thrust will easily stagger dreg ragers without any stacks, but hey, what would I know 🙂

[grizzled aspen]

He does? That's funny.

[grizzled aspen]

1 rager. Yeah.

Totally useful.

[placid fiber]

Saying thrust is better than skullcrusher is speaking from 3k hour experience, not from a new players perspective

[amber igloo]

its far superior

skullcrusher kinda sucks

and is mostly only good to hordeclear

[placid fiber]

80% damage sucks on a weapon that staggers everything?

[amber igloo]

crusher needs no help hordeclearing

[grizzled aspen]

1 special light knocks all of them down and grants my team breathing room, as well as granting 10% bonus damage to everything caught in the radius.

And I can just spam it and keep everything perpetually on the floor until my team recovers.

[amber igloo]

or you could just kill everything, so your team can chill and pewpew like they always do

[grizzled aspen]

Long story short, you're disregarding half the weapon and its BIS blessings in favor of an off meta blessing.

[amber igloo]

I use that works the best for me

[grizzled aspen]

Uh huh.

[placid fiber]

"that works the best for me"

[amber igloo]

dmg > CC

the best CC is death

[grizzled aspen]

Sounds like you're bad, then, tbh.

[amber igloo]

if I wanna babysit my team, might as well play a smyker

[grizzled aspen]

But what do I know?

[amber igloo]

I am terrible dude

you wanna do a run?

you bring skullcrusher and spam empower lights

I do my thing

we can compare notes 😄

[grizzled aspen]

First off, I'm at work. Second off, you'd be literally getting 10% free bonus damage on anything caught in my crusher radius.

So that's not a fair comparison at all.

[amber igloo]

is that a no?

who would have thought so

[placid fiber]

Isn't it 10% x 4 stacks?

[grizzled aspen]

Reading comprehension isn't your strongsuit, is it?

[amber igloo]

it literally is

he doesn't even know how it works

yet he argues with me

internet is a funny place

[grizzled aspen]

Yes, it caps out at 40% total, but I never need to bonk more than once with a special attack.

[amber igloo]

80

its 4x10 twice

at least learn how the game works before trying to be smart

[spare talon]

Skullcrusher applies twice to the target directly hit by the weapon, 40 for everything caught by the explosion

[grizzled aspen]

I'm referring to everything that isnt my direct target.

Because that's how it works.

[lucid cypress]

Reading comprehension isn't your strongsuit, is it?

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-fighting-smiling-friends-no-fight-stop-it-stop-arguing-gif-8713281799291953889

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/sh-quiet-india-indian-tiktok-gif-16906342

[placid fiber]

So the 1st direct hit to an ogryn would apply 80% damage?

[solar gorge]

stop arguing

[placid fiber]

Dedge

[amber igloo]

you can not use skullcrusher on an ogryn, unless you ulti

[fleet zealot]

What

[amber igloo]

they will recover quicker than you can follow up empowered hit

[fleet zealot]

Oh were you the person using thrust

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[solar gorge]

ok maybe keep arguing

[fleet zealot]

I think i remember

[placid fiber]

At this point he's just baiting

[paper harness]

nope just stupid

[fleet zealot]

You were holding thrust until the crusher recovered and shocked that it wasn’t giving bonus damage

[amber igloo]

huh

[fleet zealot]

Then cole immediately made a video for you

[placid fiber]

Yep

[amber igloo]

where he ULTID the crusher

🙂

the ulti triggered skullcrusher

[hard nexus]

me when i am insane

[amber igloo]

not the empower

[fleet zealot]

Skullcrusher works on ogryns if your weapon has enough stagger

Lol

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1274437110933229588/caption-17.gif

[fleet zealot]

Evergreen

[placid fiber]

Ulted into the crusher, staggering it with the charge, then hitting with a +80% strike with the ult buff

[amber igloo]

exactly

it wasnt the power up

it was the ulti

[fleet zealot]

I mean you can go test without charge

By actually comboing hits

[placid fiber]

Which means he was able to stagger the ogryn and hit it

[fleet zealot]

And not holding heavy until it auto swings

[south grove]

hi

what did I miss

[hard nexus]

phra is very argumentative and you will not change their opinions no matter how wrong they are

don’t even bother

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[hard nexus]

anyway

hello swaglings

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-lick-mlem-cute-funny-gif-25264237

[amber igloo]

that is correct

[placid fiber]

They are just baiting, I'm done trying to waste energy on him

[south grove]

penetrating flame convo in question:

[amber igloo]

you can't change my opinion

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[hard nexus]

true!!

[fleet zealot]

Sometimes you see someone get dunked and you have to jump em

[south grove]

I HATE UNCANNY STRIKE

[plucky gate]

does the heavy take longer than skullcrusher lasts or something? Doesn't the debuff last 5 whole seconds?

[amber igloo]

rofl

[south grove]

KILL ALL UNCANNY STRIKE USERS

[amber igloo]

penetrating flames is useless dogshit

[south grove]

DUMP DAMAGE

[fleet zealot]

Debuff is 2 parts

[hard nexus]

skullcrusher only applies while the enemy is staggered

[solar gorge]

i jump people in the streets, this is relatable

[south grove]

KILL EVERYONE WHO VALUES DAMAGE

[fleet zealot]

The damage bonus only applies if the enemy is staggered

The stacks last 5 seconds but enemies can recover quicker

[frosty herald]

I was almost tweaking over great ape vegeta

[hard nexus]

well, staggering the enemy applies skullcrusher, then while they are staggered, they take extra damage from skullcrusher

[plucky gate]

ah

[fleet zealot]

It’s worded semi poorly

[hard nexus]

very poorly

[hard nexus]

why is it 4 stacks of 10% that can be applied twice

it’s so dumb

[fleet zealot]

Yea

[placid fiber]

to give people who use thrust copium, maybe?

[fleet zealot]

But it was basically phra saying skullcrusher sucks cause he was using thrust and the crushers recovered

[hard nexus]

yah

checks out

[fleet zealot]

Yea that is why i say thrust slaught or slaught skullcrusher

Thrust skullcrusher have anti synergy if you dont have a backup keeping the enemies staggered

[spare talon]

That was another guy

[placid fiber]

Which thus spreads misinformation

[solar gorge]

turns out if you let crushers recover from their staggered state they don't receive the bonus damage from the damage on staggered enemies blessing, this is crazy

[hard nexus]

it makes me sad that slaughterer is just objectively better then hammerblow/trauma on the crusher

[fleet zealot]

Oop

My bad

[solar gorge]

fatshakr need to fix this now !

[spare dome]

the future is now old man

[frosty herald]

Hmm

Yknow

[spare dome]

slaughterer on everything

[solar gorge]

no

uncanny strikes

[placid fiber]

Screw the future, I want beef!

[fleet zealot]

Me when people are putting hammerblow on smaul and crusher

[paper harness]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d24f277-aa94-4230-8b6b-7574e32106f7/zealot-op

[solar gorge]

give the crusher uncanny strikes

[frosty herald]

Skullcrusher alongside an impact blessing might still be the play

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1288748112839708672/Darktide_2024.09.25-20.01.mp4?ex=6706ca75&is=670578f5&hm=55ade1010f0bcb4d49b27536c75daec05df1e2e9b703afc5304a35946ec74788&

[fleet zealot]

Slaught is an impact blessing

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-sit-on-the-chair-that-makes-me-yap-yakuza-gaiden-like-a-dragon-pirate-yakuza-in-hawaii-hawaii-yakuza-hawai-majima-gif-1875002789278146677

[hard nexus]

what do we think of hammer blow trauma grievous wounds crusher build

[spare talon]

Here's the crusher hitting a crusher whom is still staggered without an ult, thus recieving 80% more damage

[fleet zealot]

Help i’ve fallen and i can’t get up

[solar gorge]

slaught is just everything so it's better but sc + hammerblow stil performs alright

it hasn't changed so

[fleet zealot]

Ehh i had a purple crusher in my backup

Cause hammerblow could get annoying

Tho that was when punishment was 150% stagger

Knocking shit prone 5 feet away can be cringe

[solar gorge]

i hate that fs gave the crusher slaught i rezally do

[plucky gate]

ok coherency regen on zealot curios is actually pretty bad

[solar gorge]

i will say it until i die

[fleet zealot]

I prefer the non autistic zealot build

[plucky gate]

i wouldn't judge if it was like, 1 for comfort
but
3 coherency regen perks

[opaque island]

i argue that anyone willing to make an account on a website just to post a build for Darktide, is already a little tistic

[plucky gate]

stacking the thing that literally turns off in melee
on the melee class

[placid fiber]

If it isn't ogryn, I don't use coherency regen

[solar gorge]

gamelantern fucking stinks anyway

never go there

[plucky gate]

i take 1 on some builds to make downtime a bit shorter. 30% is a big number.
Stacking it on non-ogryn is such a waste though

[south grove]

kill this guy

tanner told me about these sort of people

uncanny strike is the devil's work

[solar gorge]

mr.lindberg

[haughty basalt]

whats the difference between the chainsword and the chainaxe? if the axe is more single-target oriented, isnt that nullified by the fact that you can just rev up the chainsword and be fine for single target

[north sedge]

Chaxe is much better at killing elites

And has auto revs on attacks (lights on mk4, heavies on mk12)

Chainsword is better horde clear

[haughty basalt]

thanks

[fleet zealot]

How tistic to make a games lantern build called “non autistic”

[fleet zealot]

Chsword is a horde mulcher

At least before bruisers get involved

But can kinda do everything

Chaxes are the opposite, slow horde clear compared to other options but much better elite and armor killing

[hallow bane]

What blessings do people run with flamer?

[rotund shoal]

blaze away (always) +
choice of:

• overpressure (probably bis)
• pen flames (for armor)
• everlasting flame (on piety to never reload and fun)

[plucky gate]

everlasting with piety is so funny

can actually fully deplete ammo without a single reload

[fleet zealot]

And my pubs will do that

Burn through all their ammo in the 1st horde spawn

[spare talon]

Yeah its funny but I always way
In what situation do you need that much flamer ammo when burn caps at 15 stacks lmao

[plucky gate]

i like to do it at the end of missions when people drop their ammo crates at the end

[amber igloo]

everlasting flames is to project a 30m fire epeen to assert dominance forever

[plucky gate]

it's not that practical but not thinking about reloading is just nice qol

[fleet zealot]

I mean at that point quickflame exists but i get it

It’s fun

[plucky gate]

like you don't really need it but it's nice

tfw you have an ammo crate in a team of 3 staff psykers, and you have everlasting flames

no one will be able to see anything but fire for several minutes

[hallow bane]

What perks as well btw?

[rotund shoal]

unyielding maniac flak

[lucid cypress]

wait is tanner known for darktide now

[solar gorge]

i used to have quickflame + overpressure on my flamer back when op didn't even work, good times

[plucky gate]

back when everyone gaslit themselves into thinking it worked

[fleet zealot]

Tanner is known alright

[lucid cypress]

oh trust me you don't know the half of it

"YOU SHOULD APOLOGIZE... NOW"

[drifting wolf]

is the other half warframe

[lucid cypress]

yup

[drifting wolf]

lol

[rotund shoal]

infamous across multiple communities is actually pretty rad

[spare talon]

What was this from

[lucid cypress]

gaz lore

[spare talon]

The only thing I can think of is

Yeah

That

[lucid cypress]

that shit was so fun to be a part of live

[spare talon]

Funny enough I do watch gaz as my main WF youtuber

[lucid cypress]

can we lynch this guy

[spare talon]

And he is comparable to tanner in many ways but he's not fucking insufferable

[lucid cypress]

gaz?

gaz is fucking insufferable

[spare talon]

I take what he says with a grain of salt every time cuz he obviously is very extreme with his opinions on things

[full nebula]

Was this late? Or game buggin?

maybe I was off the hitbox a wee bit

[amber igloo]

you hit the body

[full nebula]

with the pistol yes

[spare talon]

My experience with gaz is just someone rambling about a game their passionate about, and that rambling having tons of info from their history with the game in it
I can take the info from that and use it best to how I prefer to play the game, and not adhere to what he says like he is a god (cough cough tanner fans)

[amber igloo]

never even heard about those guys

[opaque island]

https://tenor.com/view/mondo-cool-dbz-dragon-ball-mondo-cool-gif-17720667

[amber igloo]

but than again, I stick with my old vermin pals

[spare talon]

Warframe yt

[shy river]

I like dumb montages that include fuck ups and if you make those I will listen to your youtuber opinion

[amber igloo]

oh warframe lol

the game with 0 challenge

[spare talon]

Yeah there's no skill in warframe so it's just build videos, weekly rotation update videos, and efficient farm guides

[amber igloo]

I am a founder

game had a slightly different promise back than lol

[lucid cypress]

mfw game is based on fun instead of difficulty

[amber igloo]

difficulty is my fun

but it's dong well, so I'm the minority

[lucid cypress]

that's your prerogative

[amber igloo]

exactly

[opaque island]

difficulty up to a point is fun, im not here for ball crushing but i dont want a cakewalk either

[spare talon]

Me logging on to play warframe

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-xqc-gambling-addict-777-gif-25803752

[plucky gate]

warframe is addicting until you realize you spent a thousand hours and didn't really get that much enjoyment out of it

[opaque island]

me logging on to play darktide

[lucid cypress]

i can't wait for the bugs to go back to hell where they belong

the cold needs to hurry up already

[spare dome]

not that i care for them much but it still seems weird to me that zealot didnt also get a weapon swap speed node put in somewhere

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/air-swim-cat-gif-25752697

[placid fiber]

Sorry, we have to wait for them to grow up to use them for cat nip

kitten nip is not a thing