And how to properly use special on Zarona shotty? Just shoot? I remember I tested it recently and kinda wasn't impresses compared to Fire Breath from Accatran - they just melting and rotting from few specials
#zealot-class
ocean geode
elfin steppe
True,but I like bolter more.
amber igloo
fuck the bolter
dark zealot
rotund shoal
bolt pistol fires bolt though
amber igloo
cumbersome pos
rotund shoal
they stop at first thing hit and explode like shaped charges
dark zealot
fuck the bolter
the codex astartes does not* support this action
rotund shoal
less cleave more armor damage makes sense
ocean geode
cumbersome pos
Heresy
fleet zealot
And how to properly use special on Zarona shotty? Just shoot? I remember I teste...
yea, if it's a wide spread out area load a special, if they are in a tighter area use normal shot
and just fire
rotund shoal
fuck the bolter
they call me the weird one
fleet zealot
two shots minimum
amber igloo
if I wanna play a reload simulator, I'll use a zarona
fleet zealot
one to proc scattershot, the future ones will all proc manstopper if you are going piety
amber igloo
oh wait, I hate reloading, so I just won't use either
rotund shoal
yet you also hate everlasting flame flamer??
elfin steppe
cumbersome pos
After they reduced recoil and sway, it just feels so good to use.
rotund shoal
a complex man
amber igloo
all that time spent reloading, you could be in the middle of the enemy slapping em
ocean geode
Bolter is spray and pray simulator, and in context of zealot literally
grizzled aspen
they stop at first thing hit and explode like shaped charges
This is assuming that's the ammo it is loaded with.
ocean geode
And after spray a few things stay alive, but usually none
amber igloo
and you just spent 15 ammo doing what you could have done with 0
rotund shoal
This is assuming that's the ammo it is loaded with.
yeh i think in game theyre actually .22 bolt pistols
ocean geode
I did it faster, on range, suppressed and scattered everyone else around, and most importantly have fun
grizzled aspen
and you just spent 15 ammo doing what you could have done with 0
Ok, but I need those 4 crushers dead NOW.
amber igloo
why you need em dead NOW?
ocean geode
And it ain't that bad in ammo management if you use it wisely
dark zealot
infinite flamer?
grizzled aspen
I could kill them slowly with an AP melee, but they need to be dead effective yesterday.
median steeple
spare talon
dude the new thammer doesnt make me feel like im helpless
its awesome
elfin steppe
all that time spent reloading, you could be in the middle of the enemy slapping ...
Personally I prefer bolters because sometimes I need to deal with aggravated gunners, ragers and reapers.
ocean geode
Also surprisingly nice boss burst dps
dark zealot
so i can burn through the veterans ammo faster?
obsidian prairie
dude the new thammer doesnt make me feel like im helpless
its awesome
What model
spare talon
What model
crucis
grizzled aspen
Shattering puncture boltgun consistently kills 1 crusher in 4 bullets from any range.
spare talon
prevents me from meleeing
tho you have moments when there is nothing to shoot or melee
ocean geode
They tweaked it a bit, i think. Not as bad, but yeah it slow, but it's justified - it is a bolter
grizzled aspen
Also 80% reload speed actually reloads pretty quickly.
fleet zealot
rotund shoal
They tweaked it a bit, i think. Not as bad, but yeah it slow, but it's justified...
they make human sized bolters
amber igloo
all the time playing with friends, nerf range spam plox
elfin steppe
Well there are many enemies you can't just melee.
rotund shoal
the imperial guard has them
grizzled aspen
Burgles do exist.
dark zealot
Shattering puncture boltgun consistently kills 1 crusher in 4 bullets from any r...
real?
grizzled aspen
Yes.
elfin steppe
Yesterday I got instant locked by four bulwarks.
dark zealot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h36oAI9N994
gege's next manga
grizzled aspen
I can post a clip in a minute. I have a perfect boltgun.
rotund shoal
Well there are many enemies you can't just melee.
technically no
ocean geode
they make human sized bolters
M? What do you mean?
dark zealot
I can post a clip in a minute. I have a perfect boltgun.
please do
rotund shoal
M? What do you mean?
bolters arent just space marine guns they make bolters for humans as well
spare talon
god i love super impact
dark zealot
ive always hated having great horde clear but crushers tearing me a new ass
rotund shoal
theyre smaller obviously
grizzled aspen
bolters arent just space marine guns they make bolters for humans as well
No shit, almost like we USE ONE.
rotund shoal
No shit, almost like we USE ONE.
we could be using a space marine bolter
grizzled aspen
So do the Sororitas.
dark zealot
a human using a space marine boltgun would be turbo heresy
lunar fable
No shit, almost like we USE ONE.
elfin steppe
One of the reasons that chastise is not that effective is because bulwarks and reapers exist.
grizzled aspen
we could be using a space marine bolter
If you shot one, you would die from it.
rotund shoal
If you shot one, you would die from it.
depends on the author
ocean geode
bolters arent just space marine guns they make bolters for humans as well
Well yeah and we are wielding the human version, compacted as much as possible so regular mortals could feel the only a glimpse of power of the Astartes's bolter
obsidian prairie
If you shot one, you would die from it.
Not really
grizzled aspen
You could, but only once.
obsidian prairie
Would just hurt a lot if you did it wrong
ask lore chat any time
they will rip you several new holes
grizzled aspen
Which is unbelievably easy.
dark zealot
Well yeah and we are wielding the human version, compacted as much as possible s...
according to space marine 2 their bolters suck
modern lintel
So do the Sororitas.
elfin steppe
according to space marine 2 their bolters suck
True
grizzled aspen
And many broken bones at once can lead to shock, which will kill you outright.
spare talon
Auric Exemplar
grizzled aspen
So... don't fire an astartes pattern bolter.
ocean geode
according to space marine 2 their bolters suck
Shush I am lore nerding!
rotund shoal
>Auric Exemplar
oh the poor panic revive
dark zealot
who needs them, we have daemonhosts
dark zealot
So... don't fire an astartes pattern bolter.
if you arent a space marines serf, dont touch it
or a tech priest i guess
ocean geode
You could, but only once.
Every astartes bolter have DNA "keylocks" on grips of their bolters
Only owner can fire it
obsidian prairie
That doesn't sound right
dark zealot
>Auric Exemplar
also what skin is that?
spare talon
also what skin is that?
basic thammer
mastery brauto
grizzled aspen
Every astartes bolter have DNA "keylocks" on grips of their bolters
Yeah, but assuming you even could bypass that, you would still probably die from shooting one.
rotund shoal
And many broken bones at once can lead to shock, which will kill you outright.
once again it depends on the author. humans fire space marine bolters and dont die or have broken bones, it just hurts
amber igloo
we got red weapons now
rotund shoal
and for some authors it breaks every bone in your body
dark zealot
we got red weapons now
very orky
rotund shoal
its inconsistent much like 75% of lore
spare talon
@dark zealot
ocean geode
Yeah, but assuming you even could bypass that, you would still probably die from...
Naturally, but probably something far worse would come after you if you somehow could get around this locking system
grizzled aspen
I COLORED MY KNIFE RED TO MOVE FASTER
dark zealot
I COLORED MY KNIFE RED TO MOVE FASTER
chaxe built for speed
grizzled aspen
Naturally, but probably something far worse would come after you if you somehow ...
Yeah, the Inquisition or any astartes chapter would eat you alive.
ocean geode
I COLORED MY KNIFE RED TO MOVE FASTER
Silly you should paint it blue for more plasteel spawns!
red mesa
shred + rampage on devils claw for crit build, not shred + savage sweep right?
obsidian prairie
Reminder:
grizzled aspen
Anyone that violates the sanctity of arms of any chapter equipment is hunted like dogs.
grizzled aspen
shred + rampage on devils claw for crit build, not shred + savage sweep right?
Yup.
elfin steppe
<@394231385872662529>
dark zealot
Anyone that violates the sanctity of arms of any chapter equipment is hunted lik...
tell that to john
elfin steppe
Look at my magnificent bolter.
opal star
shroudfield but it's just you pouring purple paint on yourself
ocean geode
shroudfield but it's just you pouring purple paint on yourself
Stealth Ogryn new ability leak?
opal star
have you ever seen a purple ogryn
ocean geode
No...
opal star
exactly
dark zealot
what does green do?
ocean geode
Damn they are good at this
opal star
da best
grizzled aspen
Green is best.
dark zealot
if green best, why orks lose?
grizzled aspen
Blue is lucky, red is faster, yellow is more dakka, white is more killy, purple is sneaky.
grizzled aspen
if green best, why orks lose?
Da fight better.
Can't have good fights if you can't lose.
opal star
if green best, why orks lose?
ocean geode
if green best, why orks lose?
They like to give stoopid speihs mareeens an opportunity and fair game so it would be interesting to stomp each other again
hard nexus
it is not a divider
confirmed
if it was, h1 would deal 525 to first target and 55 to the second
grizzled aspen
a white scar or blood angel?
Depends on whether or not the white scars have bikes.
hard nexus
it does 175 to the second target
ocean geode
a white scar or blood angel?
Question irrelevant, whatever Blood angels are going to face against is already have been stolen by other members of Blood angels
ocean geode
Shame on me
dark zealot
how to beat zealot chat
ocean geode
5 Am doing bad things
trail herald
Angels are the gay vampires
dark zealot
ask lore question
dark zealot
Angels are the gay vampires
no thats jojos
trail herald
rotund shoal
Angels are the gay vampires
gay vampires with daddy issues*
dark zealot
gay vampires with daddy issues*
now that angles
ocean geode
Blood ravens are the magpies.
I am going to sleep now I can't let myself be so bad again
grizzled aspen
@dark zealot
amber igloo
btw, we agreed on shield of con having a global cooldown aye?
grizzled aspen
4 shots on headshots with anoint, 6 without.
dark zealot
<@394231385872662529>
thats crazy strong
dark zealot
its ranged dmg
dark zealot
infinite dmg reduction
opal star
just make it iron will 2
grizzled aspen
4 headshots at 20m still kills without anoint.
dark zealot
iwon within iron without
grizzled aspen
It'll take a second though.
opal star
iwon within iron without
type shit
dark zealot
wait thats just no iron
misty nova
if it was, h1 would deal 525 to first target and 55 to the second
So we back to square 0
opal star
iron with
dark zealot
dont mind me, im just gonna take that
hard nexus
So we back to square 0
h1 has a cleave multiplier of .33 repeating, for first to second target, but cleave damage does not decrease linearly
because it goes like this
rotund shoal
@grizzled aspen since you annoyed me
quote from Dan Abnett's Necropolis:
At Hass West, Gaunt’s men met the tide of Zoicans spilling from the engaged siege engine. In the
narrow defiles of the ramparts, it became a match of determined close combat. Gaunt personally
killed dozens with his chainsword and cut a flanking formation down towards the tower-top of the
engine. Daur was with him, blasting with his borrowed boltgun, and so were a pack of more than
sixty Ghosts and Vervun Primary troopers mixed together.
Daur is a non augmented human
Fires a boltgun no problem
says borrowed because he took it off a space marine
rotund shoal
theres other quotes where firing a boltgun does break their wrists
dark zealot
oh no john read the lore
rotund shoal
once again its author dependent
but dan abnett is the best author
so my point stands
grizzled aspen
oh no john read the lore
He is literally John Warhammer.
Now he has to go collect the other 39,999 warhammers and defeat the Horus Heresy.
dark zealot
Now he has to go collect the other 39,999 warhammers and defeat the Horus Heresy...
vulkan basically
dark zealot
hersey
heresay*
hearsay*?
"zealot crit assasin" - combat blade: felsh tearer riposte
misty nova
because it goes like this
It couldn't be a multiplier though
So what the hell is it
Is that stat trolling us
misty nova
Functions
Oh my agony
hard nexus
i geniuenly have no idea what it could mean
spare talon
THANK YOU CHAOS SPAWN FOR PUSHING ME BACK INTO THE PLACE I WAS BEFORE I DODGED THE TRAPPER SHOOTING THE NET AT ME
I AM SO THANKFUL
THAT YOUR KNOCKBACK CAN DO THAT
hard nexus
Is that stat trolling us
cica said it possible could be some asinine hidden cleave stat, that its doing some operation on
which could make sense
knowing fs
drowsy steppe
didnt arco or exploit already said its the hit mass value
opal star
chaos spawn 180 degree turnaround attack can go to hell
drowsy steppe
or is this another thing that yall calculating
hard nexus
didnt arco or exploit already said its the hit mass value
this what does distribution mean
spare talon
i literally dodge the chaos spawns attack
but you still receive pushback from it
rotund shoal
does anyone have a link to said code
hard nexus
copper hawk
yeah teh damage is exponential
spare talon
and it pushed me back into the place the trapper was shooting me from
hard nexus
48 is min cleave damage
drowsy steppe
this what does distribution mean
hmm is this the cleave target stat
spare talon
so i get netted despite dodging the trapper
copper hawk
somewhere between target 4 and target 5 it hits the minimum
hard nexus
hmm is this the cleave target stat
yes
spare talon
cuz the game just decided to move me back
copper hawk
we need to employ someone who is a math nerd to solve this
someone actively taking calculus
spare talon
cuz chaos spawn STILL PUSHES YOU ON DODGED ATTACKS
drowsy steppe
cleave damage is cleave damage distribution while cleave target is the hit mass of your cleave
but I dont know how that is calculated to the damage dsitribution
rotund shoal
its probably just some form of power law
rotund shoal
but what is the distribution value
you need the distribution value and one curve and another distribution value and another curve
then you can reverse engineer the formula
copper hawk
it's an exponential function
it's calc and i havent done calc in years
and i had 2 retake it
drowsy steppe
does anyone have a link to said code
ask exhil how he access it
copper hawk
find the rate of change on this exponential function as it approaches Y
but as u can see somewhere between target 4 and target 5 the game decides it doesnt give a fuck about this function
sicne the number should be more around 119
fading vale
just use the calculator https://dt.wartide.net/calc/ and get a few numbers from changing the value
copper hawk
(since it's infinitely approaching a number around 118 or 117)
it just says nop ! u get MIN cleave..
min cleave damage*
hard nexus
just use the calculator https://dt.wartide.net/calc/ and get a few numbers from ...
calc doesnt work on evis h1
its broken
fading vale
oh evis
rotund shoal
i can do it but i need the actual nrs
fading vale
yeah evis has never worked in calc
misty nova
does anyone have a link to said code
It's on GitHub like all codes
rotund shoal
It's on GitHub like all codes
its all in lua?
fading vale
uh the weapon code is on github yeah
copper hawk
you need the distribution value and one curve and another distribution value and...
yah
misty nova
its all in lua?
Seems like yeah
misty nova
And the code has things like
medium_cleave
big_cleave
rotund shoal
dont forget large_cleave
hard nexus
misty nova
Which I'm still not sure how to interpret
rotund shoal
theyre just constants
fading vale
yeah you have to dig pretty deep through the layers of abstraction to find things
north sedge
i simply consult the chicken bones for my answers
rotund shoal
theyre defined in scripts/settings/damage/damage_profile_settings.lua
oh lol
its in the name
fading vale
it's probably in the default weapon template cause all weapons have a cleave damage distribution
rotund shoal
lerp
thats linear interpolation
which is also what the graph looks like
damage_profile_settings.damage_lerp_values = {
lerp_3 = {
2.22,
3.78,
},
lerp
hard nexus
this is for hsword btw
just posting it to see the difference between cleave damage and cleave targets
rotund shoal
which mk
dark zealot
Consult the white powder
dark zealot
That’s how I solve my problems when games are vague
rotund shoal
i was about to compliment fatshark for naming things descriptively once
but which fucking combatsword_NUMBER is heavy sword 7
fk
misty nova
Lmao
hard nexus
but which fucking `combatsword_NUMBER` is heavy sword 7
LOL
hard nexus
it was the stat displayed
rotund shoal
l1, h2 etc?
rotund shoal
ill do that then
misty nova
Chainsword 2h are easier to find on the code lol
rotund shoal
i dont like it either but linear interpolation is one of few maths centric things software engineers learn
hard nexus
fair
rotund shoal
its useful in a lot of scenarios
hard nexus
thank god someone here is competent
misty nova
Yeah
hard nexus
who else are number nerds
dark zealot
i hate math
Do meth instead
rotund shoal
done both
dark zealot
Still hurts your brain though
hard nexus
drugs r gross
ornate bone
i hate math
id rather dislocate my own shoulder
misty nova
who else are number nerds
Guess those are pretty rare around here 
rotund shoal
it is in no way as simple as i thought lol
the basic stuff is linear interpolation
then they have fuckiness added to it
misty nova
Of course lmao
rotund shoal
at least theres tests
huh players are unarmored a different armor class but largely the same as unarmored
merry flume
@rocky nacelle @sullen forge way too high gonna call it lol
sullen forge
Lmao fair
rocky nacelle
heres what I say to that
merry flume
rocky nacelle
sullen forge
Rolling for a cleaver rq
hard nexus
rocky nacelle
hard nexus
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOyAtHJSm8kS_PeXY?invite=c...
@grizzled aspen
my worst instance of a trapper double shot
grizzled aspen
You should've seen what happened to me.
merry flume
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTH1VNHLjng
both the games i played i was fighting keeping my eyes open lmao
sullen forge
agri revo supremacy moment
Mighty revolver shit blast
grizzled aspen
I jumped to the floor below to save the teammate that got grabbed by the cspawn and there was a trapper shooting a net at me before I even touched the ground.
Literally no way to dodge it.
hard nexus
peak
sullen forge
I like how we were both neck and neck Boss DPS wise
hard nexus
anti air trapper
opal star
they should have an aura that just kills all trappers within a 100 mile radius
hard nexus
Literally no way to dodge it.
going 2 take break for now
rocky nacelle
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOyAtHJSm8kS_PeXY?invite=c...
LMFAO
I just watched closer at the end
why is the other zealot just spamming Tknives
hard nexus
no fucking idea
rocky nacelle
what is bluud aiming at
hard nexus
bros just pressing buttons
grizzled aspen
There were 4 trappers at the same time.
I counted them as they ran past me down the stairs.
rocky nacelle
both the games i played i was fighting keeping my eyes open lmao
ive been high like that b4
(its annoying)
rotund shoal
attack_result, damage_dealt, damage_absorbed, damage, permanent_damage, one_hit_kill, actual_damage_dealt = _handle_attack(is_server, instakill, target_is_assisted, target_is_hogtied, attacked_unit, target_breed_or_nil, calculated_damage, attacking_unit, attacking_unit_owner_unit, hit_zone_name, damage_profile, attack_direction, hit_actor, attack_type, herding_template, is_critical_strike, hit_world_position, damage_type, target_weapon_template, unit_data_extension, wounds_shape, attacker_buff_extension)
trynna game and demons taking over
rotund shoal
this is an assignment
cerulean moth
imma say it
rocky nacelle
@sullen forge
cerulean moth
run n gun on bolt pistol
rocky nacelle
ggz
spare talon
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOyAtHJSm8kS_PeXY?invite=c...
what the fuck man
sullen forge
<@820414945543716944>
alr you're good
misty nova
```
attack_result, damage_dealt, damage_absorbed, damage, permanent_damage, one_...
Having fun 
merry flume
ive been high like that b4
usually do like a 150mg dose
spare talon
dude i had so many issues with trappers on that 3veg
sullen forge
gonna test this in a random match
rotund shoal
Having fun <:dyinginside:415235556868358154>
actually yes
sterile basalt
but which fucking `combatsword_NUMBER` is heavy sword 7
combatsword_p2_m2
spare talon
they always spawned in sets of 2-3, one always blessed
rotund shoal
i love reverse engineering
rotund shoal
combatsword_p2_m2
tyvm
rocky nacelle
issue
merry flume
i guess im about 90~100 cause i can feel it but not enough to be geeked
rocky nacelle
me vic and gale smoked that 3VEG
merry flume
oh wait that was a 3veg lmao
sullen forge
both the games i played i was fighting keeping my eyes open lmao
My caffeine addicted ass does this when I crash out on not drinking any caffeine drinks lmao
rocky nacelle
sterile basalt
for combat swords
p1 is DC sword
p2 is heavy sword
p3 is duelling sword
rocky nacelle
I might get some edibles
merry flume
My caffeine addicted ass does this when I crash out on not drinking any caffeine...
OH I HAVEN'T DRANK MY MONSTER
spare talon
me vic and gale smoked that 3VEG
i was playing thammer and we had 2 duelling swords on the team so
i didnt really get to play the game
merry flume
if you guys are still playing i might be down after a monster
rotund shoal
having to wait to get high
nah i get that
sullen forge
He's horroring his games right now
rocky nacelle
if you guys are still playing i might be down after a monster
horror games time
merry flume
how horrible
sullen forge
Im still up for the time being
merry flume
twisted tea and monster time
merry flume
ew
rocky nacelle
nah i get that
yeah glad someone does
rocky nacelle
i was playing thammer and we had 2 duelling swords on the team so
i didnt really...
its ok I didnt get to cowboy it up
gale was gungryn
sullen forge
Look I got a bit carried away with ceasless barrage and coward culling
and then got really self aware
and started doing melee for a bit
hard nexus
LOL
sullen forge
Fucking Gungryn does that to you dude lmao
FREE SUPPRESSION DAMAGE INCREASE FOR EVERYONE!
then I fucking wake up realizing
holy shit I ate like 3 ammo crates
hard nexus
so was it the first trapper despawning and being replaced? or the first trapper teleporting and shooting immediately?
rocky nacelle
rocky nacelle
so was it the first trapper despawning and being replaced? or the first trapper ...
I saw 2 trappers
rotund shoal
oh hey this is the line that makes voc OP:
if toughness_broken and damage_profile.on_depleted_toughness_function_override_name then
if has_bolstered_toughness then
remaining_damage = 0
where?
amber salmon
piety crusher is insane, are there any other weapons i should be running crit on now that IoD has changed?
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/boccicord-gif-3989917567552955671
Me when i become self aware of the bad habit im indulging in even though im heavily helping my team
rocky nacelle
1 sec lemme forward it
rocky nacelle
first trapper shot
immediately runs away and another one replaces her right at the start of the stairs
rocky nacelle
2nd trapper appears from "thin air" (the stairs)
I had to pause between both trapper instances
hard nexus
ah
hard nexus
amazing
hard nexus
i thought it was a double shooting trapper
rocky nacelle
super fucked up
hard nexus
but the first one ran away?
rocky nacelle
Ill rewatch it again
spare talon
i wonder how troll it would be to swap kraks and weakspot power on ability for swap speed and out for blood on specifically DS DB vet
rocky nacelle
@hard nexus when you pan your camera around
you can see the other trapper running down the stairs
unless there was some how fucking 3-4
hard nexus
unless there was some how fucking 3-4
there might have been, one trapped frog earlier
rocky nacelle
considering frog got grabbed also
misty nova
piety crusher is insane, are there any other weapons i should be running crit on...
Afaik crusher is one of the few hidden finesse weapon
So probably no
hard nexus
piety crusher is insane, are there any other weapons i should be running crit on...
dclaw
crit evis
rocky nacelle
there might have been, one trapped frog earlier
either thats the first one running away
hard nexus
ah
amber salmon
i might run more dclaw but i hate clicking it with 30% speed
rocky nacelle
I hate that staircase
modern lintel
amber salmon
crit evis I might try with mk2
rocky nacelle
i might run more dclaw but i hate clicking it with 30% speed
spam chastise
unless you specifically point tax yourself to somehow get 2x chastise with crit CDR and faithful frenzy
for more atk spd
rocky nacelle
crit evis I might try with mk2
crit evisc feels better with mk15 imo
hard nexus
that’s the one that got frog
sullen forge
Winning the lottery
remote lark
so
hard nexus
she just hauled ass lmfao
rocky nacelle
yeah she fucking teleported outta there and swapped with her shadow clone
fucked up
sullen forge
she just hauled ass lmfao
I GOTTA GET OUTTA HERE!!!
hard nexus
the game had to spawn two trappers mid shooting animation on me
misty nova
crit evis I might try with mk2
Then spam L1 lol
hard nexus
to kill me
remote lark
after dropping 3k on car repairs last week, both my fuel pumps went out two days ago, just got quoted another $1400 for repairs
Pain
hard nexus
crit evis I might try with mk2
mk3 sucks with crits in my experience
rocky nacelle
to kill me
better than what happens to me when I get netted even once
hard nexus
better than what happens to me when I get netted even once
i have a clip for this hold on
rocky nacelle
I got netted into 2 flamers and 2 bombers immediately nuking me
merry flume
after dropping 3k on car repairs last week, both my fuel pumps went out two days...
why does ur car have 2 fuel pumps
amber salmon
spam chastise
fotf? i usually go for faithful frenzy but still would be at 20% atk speed most of the time
rocky nacelle
(I got corrupted in literally 5 seconds and died)
amber salmon
arthrtisi simulator
merry flume
what about the blinker fluid pump
rocky nacelle
merry flume
i hope it hurts really bad for your sake
grizzled aspen
I just had someone blame me for waking a dh because they barreled me into it.
rocky nacelle
shoulda killed it
grizzled aspen
They were the one that died lmao.
hard nexus
I wonder what it feels like to be in the trapper net
probably not good, ur getting tazed by it constantly
grizzled aspen
I was dodging and blocking for my life and they wound up dying somehow.
hard nexus
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOdfC9dP0Hn-Qg_Oy?invite=c...
also note the silent burster in that door
im pretty sure that trapper spawned behind me
and then that silent burster manifested around the corner
rocky nacelle
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOdfC9dP0Hn-Qg_Oy?invite=c...
honestly
I prefer your way out
at least you go down and get picked up
hard nexus
true
hard nexus
i have a clip of that happening
rocky nacelle
its the worst shit ever
paper harness
after dropping 3k on car repairs last week, both my fuel pumps went out two days...
Owned f word
grizzled aspen
I-E auric mael, I sleep.
hard nexus
grizzled aspen
after dropping 3k on car repairs last week, both my fuel pumps went out two days...
At this point, sell your car and buy a bike.
copper hawk
after dropping 3k on car repairs last week, both my fuel pumps went out two days...
Hope the car's worth it
Im sorrgy goober
hard nexus
I literally get insta corrupted and die
rocky nacelle
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iLdqujs1UqosRpPj8?invite=c...
oh
copper hawk
Lmfao
rocky nacelle
the one where they put everything but the kitchen sink
to stop me from rescuing you
lmfao
hard nexus
why do bursters do that
hard nexus
LMFAO
rocky nacelle
oh that clip is even worse
re watching meow
cause I actually managed to push a burster
but I had no HP to tank a revive
abyss
(and then you would have auto died upon revive anyway cause corruption put you at 30) while being inside 2 tox bombs
sick game
visual stream
Fatshark releasing a mission where you have to hijack a vehicle that is going to crash into a very important building in September
Curious
rotund shoal
@sterile basalt what is "power level" in the code?
How is it different from cleave distribution? Dont understand why its two different values
hard nexus
hard nexus
<@366562874039992331> what is "power level" in the code?
How is it different fro...
is it power affecting cleave?
remote lark
will cursed images get me banned
hard nexus
vast basin
lol this pubber has double rending blessing on his knife
rocky nacelle
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iOdrHwfpmHmCv4ITP?invite=c...
sayu theme mention
have you even played NSR
rotund shoal
is it power affecting cleave?
its static values which are stored alongside the cleave distribution so probably no
obsidian prairie
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d2b5f78-2b35-4d80-b2bc-c597a67e32e8 Peer review time
remote lark
obtuse solstice
how do I build knife
hard nexus
how do I build knife
depends on the build, @spare talon and @rocky nacelle can help u though
rocky nacelle
how do I build knife
what are you trying to do with it
remote lark
I dont think flechette is right on the shotgun
obtuse solstice
good ol momentum
hard nexus
i havent used knife in so long i dont consider myself a knife expert anymore
rocky nacelle
I hate knife all my friends make fun of me for using it
but when cole uses it hes clutch master
remote lark
And precog/riposte is better than uncanny
rocky nacelle
🙄
remote lark
@obsidian prairie
obsidian prairie
Guh
remote lark
But not bad
hard nexus
obsidian prairie
I dont think flechette is right on the shotgun
I specificed substituions for it
hard nexus
check out my aim
remote lark
Wait I hadn't scrolled all the way
misty nova
I dont think flechette is right on the shotgun
Fire shotgun+Flechette+Manstopper
For the funny
obtuse solstice
do you have a current build
rocky nacelle
check out my aim
carried by ultrakill
obsidian prairie
And Vet doesn't have zealot crit chance
fleet zealot
And Vet doesn't have zealot crit chance
yea vet has weapon specialist
rocky nacelle
ok this is good (also my exact knife build)
hard nexus
carried by ultrakill
real
remote lark
Meow
rocky nacelle
but tbh
hard nexus
And Vet doesn't have zealot crit chance
reciprocity and weapon specialist
rotund shoal
OMG
hard nexus
LMAO
rotund shoal
Its also in thee same part of the file which deals with power curves
hard nexus
its ok we're all a little stupid
rotund shoal
This fatshark code will give me an aneurysm i feel like im becoming wiser and stupider by the second comprehending it
rocky nacelle
kill all cat enjoyers
rotund shoal
Its literally a grimoire
hard nexus
kill all cat enjoyers
i like cats but i also have 8 dogs
rotund shoal
kill all cat enjoyers
fuc you
hard nexus
dogs r pawesome
misty nova
This fatshark code will give me an aneurysm i feel like im becoming wiser and st...
Tzeentchian knowledge
rocky nacelle
well your build is fine
obsidian prairie
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d2b5f78-2b35-4d80-b2bc-c597a6...
Forgot to rebuild my curios, swapped two 5% health for two gunner resist and one 21% health for a 17% toughness
rocky nacelle
I run flak/unyielding
and uncanny/precog
on both mk3/6
if you want a crit knife build
precog/riposte
if you want to piss people off but can somehow use this stupid setup
uncanny/lacerate
hot jolt
^
rocky nacelle
I used uncanny/lacerate and uncanny/executor on a mk6
I got 700K damage same mission, same talent setup
so its really just preference
once you get familiar with knife
hard nexus
obtuse solstice
rocky nacelle
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iNaZlz9q6xhMbB5Yw?invite=c...
hell
hard nexus
dclaw is fun
but
oh also
please
please
please
PLEASEEE
give the dclaw like 25% more flak damage
its so bad against flak hordes
rocky nacelle
no then it would be good
@frosty herald @hard nexus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDO39mY2gq4
rocky nacelle
discord didnt recognize yam
hard nexus
rocky nacelle
cause his name is fucking
spare talon
but how do I build knife
thats what i run for my knife when im using fotf
hard nexus
no then it would be good
its so fun but it desperately needs just a bit more flak damage
to help with flak hordes and flak helmeted bruisers
rocky nacelle
if it got better flak damage
can actually just run maniac unyielding
it be peak
or carapace/unyielding for more memes
hard nexus
it also does need more unyielding damage im ngl
obtuse solstice
shit hits like a wet noodle I only use it cause parry is cool
hard nexus
its a big ass sword meant for unarmored targets
rocky nacelle
it also does need more unyielding damage im ngl
its because Dclaw only shines against spam/flurry bosses
hard nexus
why does it take me like 5 hits to kill a reaper to the ehad
rocky nacelle
i.e CS and DH
hard nexus
its because Dclaw only shines against spam/flurry bosses
i suck with it against bosses
ngl
hidden vessel
if i wanted to use devils claw for purely when I'm fighting monstrosities how bad of an idea is that.
hard nexus
i need 2 get better with parrys on bosses
atomic sparrow
dueling sword thammer crusher all so equally fun cant decide which to bring into mission. locked in on improved bolter for melee
rocky nacelle
you evisc bosses I thought you'd be fine with a Dclaw
hard nexus
im plenty good with ragers n parries
misty nova
its a big ass sword meant for unarmored targets
*big ass knife
Catachan lore
hard nexus
you evisc bosses I thought you'd be fine with a Dclaw
most of the time when i parry, the attack knocks me out of the range of the parry
fleet zealot
spare talon
i love when dominos has their stupidly good deals
im ordering 40 dollars of food but only paying 16 bucks
rocky nacelle
most of the time when i parry, the attack knocks me out of the range of the parr...
yes this happens alot
hard nexus
having a good anti rager button is fun though
hard nexus
also
rocky nacelle
stupid ass repulsor field
hard nexus
stupid question, the parry has 2 states right
rocky nacelle
wym
fleet zealot
i love when dominos has their stupidly good deals
im ordering 40 dollars of food...
me too but their pizza sauce is garbage
spare talon
most of the time when i parry, the attack knocks me out of the range of the parr...
backing up into a wall:
fleet zealot
tastes way too sweet
spare talon
me too but their pizza sauce is garbage
i get alfredo
because it is based and awesome
fleet zealot
their mac and cheese, alfredo and chicken parm sandwich are all bangers tho
hard nexus
wym
where in the beginning you super reduced stam damage, and the later part you take more stam damage
fleet zealot
idk why tehy have such good sandiwch bread
nimble fiber
oof some pizza would be kinda fire rn
rocky nacelle
where in the beginning you super reduced stam damage, and the later part you tak...
this is a "perfect parry" mechanic and only works for overheads like crusher/mauler
spare talon
their mac and cheese, alfredo and chicken parm sandwich are all bangers tho
i redeemed a mac n cheese since the had a thingie for that
hard nexus
this is a "perfect parry" mechanic and only works for overheads like crusher/mau...
ah ok
pawesome
rocky nacelle
if you fuck up against overheads you eat stamina shit
spare talon
the new mac n cheese they have
rocky nacelle
if you perfect parry overheads you lose little to no stamina
hard nexus
this is a "perfect parry" mechanic and only works for overheads like crusher/mau...
@copper hawk this was ur problem a bit ago then
rocky nacelle
I asked cole this a long time ago when I was getting into dclaw
if there was a point to "perfect parry"
and its only overheads
every other enemy is fine
hard nexus
backing up into a wall:
the issue then is cspawn grab/plogryn stomp
if im against a wall, dodges feel much less safe for those moves
spare talon
the issue then is cspawn grab/plogryn stomp
cspawn actually changes its hitbox so you can dodge to the right when they do this
hard nexus
let us parry the grab and cut off the tentacle
rocky nacelle
cole post the chaos spawn dodge while you're literally hugging it
hard nexus
cspawn actually changes its hitbox so you can dodge to the right when they do th...
yeah i know that
still
it feeeeels weird
rocky nacelle
I dont know
spare talon
cole post the chaos spawn dodge while you're literally hugging it
i dont remember which one this was
rocky nacelle
it feels fine to me
spare talon
what weapon was in it
hard nexus
it feels fine to me
(idk i just be saying shit)
rocky nacelle
running up to a chaos spawn or a pogryn in the small hole it spawns in
and trapping it in there
melee looping and dodging
is peak
get spawn camped idiot
rotund shoal
what the fuck the only time i see cleave_distribution used ever is to calculate the hit mass of enemies
afterwards the calculated curves for attack and stagger distribution (which are the same, despite being in two different variables) are just never used
fuck this i give up
rocky nacelle
what weapon was in it
iirc ds4
soyker
or wait
that was the pogryn spawn camp
I think the chaos spawn camp was something else
hard nexus
what weapon was in it
ds4, it was in the cubby that they come out of
rotund shoal
misty nova
what the fuck the only time i see cleave_distribution used ever is to calculate ...
Good try 🫡
fleet zealot
hard nexus
what the fuck the only time i see cleave_distribution used ever is to calculate ...
do you feel smarter or brain damaged
fleet zealot
idk how dominos stays in business when their pizza sauce sucks
hard nexus
which path did it take
fleet zealot
cause like
rotund shoal
do you feel smarter or brain damaged
i dont know so i think brain damaged
fleet zealot
if i am craving tomato sauce cheese and bread with maybe some toppings
it's never dominos
hard nexus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1289049466627948617/D...
ds is so fucking broken
paper harness
We shouls put u in a trapper net
Too strong for you
hard nexus
guh
dark zealot
Weird looking knife
nimble fiber
it's never dominos
dominos seems 2 suck everywhere huh
dark zealot
What the hell is that dmg
rotund shoal
dominos is amazing
spare talon
What the hell is that dmg
this is before the latest patch too
just scriers and a precog/riposte ds
rocky nacelle
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1289049466627948617/D...
god chaos spawn is so peak when its not activating its tard repulsor field
paper harness
god chaos spawn is so peak when its not activating its tard repulsor field
Shit mechanic
Just make it attack more
rocky nacelle
I love when I can actually get into melee range and circle it
paper harness
Remove the forcefield
dark zealot
this is before the latest patch too
just scriers and a precog/riposte ds
Oh no
sterile basalt
<@366562874039992331> what is "power level" in the code?
How is it different fro...
Power level is now called “strength” and it’s multiplicative to +damage, +cleave and +stagger (it affects all 3 in 1:1)
rotund shoal
Power level is now called “strength” and it’s multiplicative to +damage, +cleave...
Yeah i figured that out after. If youre still here: why is cleave_distribution only used once, and it never seems to affect damage?
I only see it used in damage_profile.lua
And then the calculation for attack and impact distrubtion
hard nexus
Power level is now called “strength” and it’s multiplicative to +damage, +cleave...
for context path, this discussion started trying to figure out what this stat means
rotund shoal
is just thrown away
sterile basalt
Cleave distribution is damage spread through targets hit by cleave
rotund shoal
No i get the mechanics i mean in the code
sterile basalt
for context path, this discussion started trying to figure out what this stat me...
This is “cleave amount”
dark zealot
He got hit by a bloody train
hard nexus
what does damage distribution mean
visual stream
heres the current ds on zealot
"We're toning down the hammers' unyielding damage to prevent unhealthy amounts of damage on boss monsters" and then there's duelling sword
modern lintel
do you know the dmg values for charged attks on the psword btw @sterile basalt
spare talon
kinda weird how they changed power to strength so that it wouldnt be confused with the power level of a weapon
when they could have just called it strength level and leveling it up is called strengthen
cuz now it differs from vermintide
rotund shoal
Besides being defined in the weapon files, this is the only time cleave_distrbution is brought up:
local max_hit_mass_attack, attack_distribution = _max_hit_mass(cleave_min, cleave_range, scaled_cleave_power_level, cleave_distribution, "attack", lerp_values)
local max_hit_mass_impact, impact_distribution = _max_hit_mass(cleave_min, cleave_range, scaled_cleave_power_level, cleave_distribution, "impact", lerp_values)
attack_distibution and impact_distribution are just never used again
fleet zealot
dominos seems 2 suck everywhere huh
no the bread is good, the toppings are good to at least bearable
the alfredo sauce? to die for
hard nexus
This is “cleave amount”
yah, but what does damage distribution mean, does it factor into actual cleave damage calculations? it seems to say it should
rocky nacelle
spare talon
the alfredo sauce? to die for
this is why you slap that shit on the pizza
epic style
spare talon
i should get ready to pick it up tbh
sterile basalt
do you know the dmg values for charged attks on the psword btw <@366562874039992...
U can use DT breakpoint calculator for that I think
hard nexus
yah, but what does damage distribution mean, does it factor into actual cleave d...
because if cleave targets doesnt effect cleave damage distribution, it is 100% the dump stat on evis instead of mobility
fleet zealot
i get chicken, bacon and black olives on my alfredo pizza
dark zealot
Is t there pizza in 40k?
nimble fiber
olives eeewwwww
modern lintel
<@346218953862938626> https://open.spotify.com/artist/7HNhnD4Yu2sJWyvWbRyc2e?si=...
my Spotify weekly and discover has been so mid for like 2 weeks
rotund shoal
cleave targets matter for thicker enemies
yes it affects hit mass
fleet zealot
maybe at 60 it doesn't matter
sterile basalt
yah, but what does damage distribution mean, does it factor into actual cleave d...
Cleave damage distribution has a set attack profile for every target hit by ur attack that cleaves
It’s not exactly a formula-based decrease afaik
hard nexus
cleave targets matter for thicker enemies
evis takes savage sweep
sterile basalt
Both damage & stagger scale down through cleave
rocky nacelle
my Spotify weekly and discover has been so mid for like 2 weeks
I actually never use that
rotund shoal
Both damage & stagger scale down through cleave
where is that in the code though
look
hard nexus
Cleave damage distribution has a set attack profile for every target hit by ur a...
this is on a mk7 hsword
rotund shoal
~/Darktide-Source-Code$ rg -g '!scripts/settings/**' 'cleave_distribution'
scripts/utilities/attack/damage_profile.lua
42: local cleave_distribution = damage_profile.cleave_distribution or PowerLevelSettings.default_cleave_distribution
43: local max_hit_mass_attack, attack_distribution = _max_hit_mass(cleave_min, cleave_range, scaled_cleave_power_level, cleave_distribution, "attack", lerp_values)
44: local max_hit_mass_impact, impact_distribution = _max_hit_mass(cleave_min, cleave_range, scaled_cleave_power_level, cleave_distribution, "impact", lerp_values)
69:function _max_hit_mass(cleave_min, cleave_range, scaled_cleave_power_level, cleave_distribution, power_type, lerp_values)
70: local distribution = cleave_distribution[power_type]
73: local lerp_value = DamageProfile.lerp_value_from_path(lerp_values, "cleave_distribution", "attack")
actually wild
nimble fiber
my Spotify weekly and discover has been so mid for like 2 weeks
its rarely not mid for me
rotund shoal
Its only ever used once outside the weapons settings folder
sterile basalt
where is that in the code though
I don’t rly look at the code much
spare talon
actually wild
i find new music by just playing the radio of my playlist
dark zealot
Isn’t that saying you can hit 11 enemies?
sterile basalt
Isn’t that saying you can hit 11 enemies?
11.7 cleave = 12 enemies hit
nimble fiber
I just use the thing that recommends u new music from artists that u listen 2
rotund shoal
Oh ok I thought u knew cuz u had the combat sword stuff memorized
modern lintel
iv got like prob half of my 2000 liked songs from discover and weekly release playlist
dark zealot
11.7 cleave = 12 enemies hit
Mb then
hard nexus
I don’t rly look at the code much
also i graphed the damage distribution on the mk3 evis h1, the last one is the min damage
nimble fiber
(expect ass)
modern lintel
its always rlly hit or miss
rocky nacelle
ok I like the first song for now
hard nexus
also i graphed the damage distribution on the mk3 evis h1, the last one is the m...
it multiplies by .33, then .8, but i didnt do any others
rocky nacelle
oh heres mine
dark zealot
Don’t use the Spotify AI
rocky nacelle
sterile basalt
also i graphed the damage distribution on the mk3 evis h1, the last one is the m...
Yea it’s a weird system
dark zealot
It once started playing dicked down in Dallas
sterile basalt
I gave up on understanding fatshark’s arcane mathematics a while ago
nimble fiber
I want spotify to make good playlists for me smh
sterile basalt
It’s super complicated
modern lintel
nimble fiber
way to lazy to make them myself
hard nexus
It’s super complicated
yeah
rocky nacelle
kino
hard nexus
despair
sterile basalt
The main thing to know is that
rocky nacelle
no way
dark zealot
I don’t even like country music
dark zealot
Like I listen to some Johnny cash but that’s it
spare talon
It once started playing dicked down in Dallas
last night the spotify radio for my VG ost playlist handed me this
thanks spotify embeds, KEEP YOURSELF SAFE
sterile basalt
+strength, +damage and +damage.taken (debuff on enemy) are all multiplicative to each other
Finesse scales based on weapons’ innate finesse
Rending affects ADM
That’s pretty much all u need to know
sterile basalt
Crit “rending” is a weird thing
rotund shoal
Wait new avenue
weapon_template.overclocks = {
cleave_damage_up_dps_down = {
combatsword_p1_m1_cleave_damage_stat = 0.1,
combatsword_p1_m1_dps_stat = -0.1,
},
Theres also "overclocks"
dark zealot
He really is John warhammer
spare talon
last night the spotify radio for my VG ost playlist handed me this
#zealot-class message
heres a working embed for it if you dont wanna click the link
sterile basalt
Combatsword p1 m1 is DC1
dark zealot
He has the games code
rotund shoal
He has the games code
everyone can have nobody fkin understands it
nimble fiber
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719/129168968327...
I clicked the link, u have all my data now
rotund shoal
probably not even the developers
dark zealot
That would explain why the flames blessing still is broken
spare talon
also barely related to the games code
i remembered that the psyker exploding without downing talent was in the code for months before it was announced
then i remembered that when i was fucking around fighting the twins earlier today
i saw people make use of it no less than 5 times
sterile basalt
I’m still counting on them to fix my godroll plasma gun that got borked by their buggy empowerment system
dark zealot
also barely related to the games code
i remembered that the psyker exploding wit...
We can still fight the twins?
spare talon
I’m still counting on them to fix my godroll plasma gun that got borked by their...
it was never a godroll
the bug was it displaying incorrect stats from the start
drowsy steppe
seems they have no plans to remove the special assignment
spare talon
i wouldnt be surprised if they added new missions to that tab down the line
rotund shoal
i wouldnt be surprised if they added new missions to that tab down the line
i thought they would add rolling steel to it
sterile basalt
it was never a godroll
the bug was it displaying incorrect stats from the start
It was 70-70 at the start
spare talon
also them removing it makes no sense since theres cosmetics and penances tied to them
north sedge
We can still fight the twins?
It's the giant button in the mission select
sterile basalt
Idc I want my 70-70 distribution back
dark zealot
also them removing it makes no sense since theres cosmetics and penances tied to...
I don’t think I’ve actually done it yet
I remember doing it when it was added
But the pubs were mostly bad
And I wasn’t exactly following any meta
(Mostly because I had terrible gear)
spare talon
its so goofy
thrust/precog/duellist/fotf will instantly phase transition when you hit rodin in the head on damnation
spare talon
thanks discord
for adding this shit
median steeple
lmao
spare talon
so i will misclick it
median steeple
the emoji
spare talon
and look like an ass
rotund shoal
3 states of my soul
median steeple
why add it
nimble fiber
so dont update discord got it
dark zealot
its so goofy
thrust/precog/duellist/fotf will instantly phase transition when yo...
So how do I beat them on the hardest mode?
rotund shoal
happy/nerd/no femboys
spare talon
So how do I beat them on the hardest mode?
On the secret hardmode?
dark zealot
Yes
spare talon
Get a team
dark zealot
Well already failed that
spare talon
It's like actually fucking hard
drowsy steppe
haes
nimble fiber
haes
grizzled aspen
and look like an ass
🫃
spare talon
I don't either
But he said it took 5 hours straight
misty nova
Oh ok 5 hours
Seems reasonable
dark zealot
Proof or it didn’t happen
drowsy steppe
creature spawner's insane melee trial should give an idea how hard soloing that fight
spare talon
creature spawner's insane melee trial should give an idea how hard soloing that ...
But there are also ranged enemies in the hard mode
eternal dagger
How does zelots charge work, sometimes I go like 2 inchs other times like 30 feety
rocky nacelle
@grizzled aspen you lost to cica in for honor
reaction privileges for you arent real
spare talon
How does zelots charge work, sometimes I go like 2 inchs other times like 30 fee...
It locks on to an enemy
grizzled aspen
<@433418308453138433> you lost to cica in for honor
So? He lost to me, too.
Dumbass.
rocky nacelle
weird I only saw him kill you
eternal dagger
It locks on to an enemy
ahhhh, gotcha gotcha
grizzled aspen
It was a 2v2 both times I killed him but ok.
dark zealot
For honour? Real people play chivalry
frozen kernel
Chiv 1
grizzled aspen
Fair fight, especially because he was playing lb.