#zealot-class
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Settle down
My time doing HEMA too long makes me a critic to melee in movies/games
Not like it detracts from it
golly gee willikers lad i might need to draw it those stinker ARSE
I just feel like how would real italian or german longsword or like
that really doesn’t matter when she’s capable of withstanding at least one thunder hammer hit, is blessed by nurgle, and can disappear and reappear
the karNUSSY
i wanna get good at hema someday
How a someone trained in traditional neapolitan or Fabris-style rapier would do like against melee enemies given the like endless cartoon energy our chars have
rapier/eepee thru the eyeslit/throat of a crusher as it spends 4 years winding an overhead
I feel like if someone who was also a chosen fought rinda with a significant amount of training in schools like Fabris or even like Destreza would kill her in moments
A powersword rapier would be fucking pawesome
if we took her animations and put it into a normal human, yes
Like most rounds in hema and like in an actual duel points are earned/hits are landed in loke
Like*
It’s just the rolling around that gets to me now. Outside of anime it just looks so goofy for an actual human being to drop down and ROLL OVER
2 or 3
oh i didn’t see the also chosen part
sry
Ive been on a huge traditional rapier (Italian, Spanish) kick lately
I can still enjoy a good swashbuckle because I used to work at Chuck E Cheese. My bar for “acceptable melee combat” is pretty low
speaking of spain the clother and rapier is neat to watch
quite interesting aswelll
which thrusting sword is the one meant to injure and not kill, you told it to me a while ago n i don’t remember
is it the eepee?
Im nowhere near good enough at german ls to start like digging into srsly italian ls

also the giant switch balde
Eepee de combat is what it's called like
Full name
It's designed with the purpose in mind for first to wound duels
It's in its design
thats what happens when im playing a game while im tired
what’s the other thrusting sword then, other than the rapier
Booo
This di-
Everything after the longsword in that avenue is meant to thrust
it’s a more popular sword
Estoc?
Yah
a gif related to our tanner guest yesterday
Blunt all the way down past the first like 6 or 7 inches
Hi insane freak
poor level 21
https://streamable.com/8009r6 Play every game like using Tac Axe
There's kinds of sidewords, types of sabers that are pointier and meant to thrust, and so on
bullying carrying low levels again
Estoc is the evolution after the ls
Simplifying a ton but
It's what lead to the rapier
I thought the evolution after longsword was halberd then gun
The length of a rapier of the like 17th century is long as fuck
im just playing quick play heresy
its where the goofy is
Italian and Spanish designs are like
well it was spear, halberd/polearms, pikes, guns
It's a thrusting weapon
Longsword wasn’t much of a skirmishing weapon, most footsoldiers had some mixture of short swords, spears, and shields for most of human history iirc
Polearms are theur own family
Halberds are their own family, too
There are so many polearms
From a field combat ues; but the ls was never a field weapon
do i just pick this one up and call it a day
Polearms were basically “I don’t care how much armor you’re wearing. If your horse runs into this 16 foot long pike, we’re all stabbing you to death”
It was a sidearm; most were traditionally shorter than that used in, say, a duel
yes
Polearms are almost always just repurposed farm implements early on
Also incredibly cheap to train and supply men to plant their feet and hold a long stick steady as opposed to sword techniques
it's perfectly fine
Billhool is a bush axe, bohemian earspoon is a long boar spear, warscythe (yes, they were real, but the blade ran parallel to the haft)
WOUND VET
a decimal rounding ain't gonna hurt ya
all 3?
you know it
lmfao
earspoon looks like a partisan
It’s kind of hilarious how human history went from cloth and spears, to fully armored in steel, then the gun came out and everyone went “Alright this armor is worth fuck all, give the important ones a breastplate and tell the others to pray in their coats/tunics”
he’s making use of suppression, he’s actually saving you guys
trust
Now we’ve come around to armor again with ballistic plates
Until someone invents the first laser/energy weapon
Then we’ll go back to shirts and skins again 😂
plates right now are pretty effective against heat
depends what plates though
Ultimate mirror armor go
what're the usual perks for the combat knife anw
ballistic plates would actually do well against energy weapons, as most are made of ceramic, meant to absorb and shatter to dissipate energy, which would make them fairly effective against energy based weapons
I think it's just better to melt people with radiation
since killing is wrong anyways
Skitarii is that you
i also think plastic plates would do well against laser weaponry, maybe
I feel like we wouldn’t skip to radium rifles from fallout because haha Geneva
you know it
But the point about ceramic is a good one
polymer plates yes
yah polymer
^^ I was just gonna mention reducing the weight because ceramic HEBBY
Fish react this man
generally flak and unyielding
most common armor type and boss/ogryn damage
9ne of my fav treatisies is one on how to fight with guns and a sidesword
(Sidesword is, to simplify again heavily, the evolution of what most would call the family of arming swords)
Lms if i can find it
radium carbine my beloved
I thought the vox log was talking about it
I got so pissed when it turns it's the plasmagun
it definitely was talking about something like a radium gun, but i’m guessing there was a disconnect between marketing and development, and they released that audio without having anything for it
two were actually within the same 8 seconds
at least he’s getting value out of it
the good ole plasmagun!

least shit "wounds r good" player
What would a radium gun ever do though. Deal health damage like old people plasma?
Actually they should bring that back
peak
if only he was a crystalline will psyker
hi arco
hi meow
did u find it
Does Christian will corrupt a full bar?
grrrr.
Found it in the depths of my saved pdfs on my phone for treatises
can I join the dev team
it was zealot fire, not bomber/barrel fire
https://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Michael_Hundt Hundt has plates on rapier and pistol (pawesome)
Michael Hundt was a 17th century German fencing master. His inclusion of a griffon with a sword in his heraldry may indicate affiliation with the Veiterfechter fencing guild.
In 1611, he authored a treatise on the use of the rapier entitled Ein new Kůnstliches Fechtbuch im Rappier ("A New Illustrated Fencing Manual on Rapier"). It was dedicated ...
yea it wasn't
that's why I said if
ohh
idk how you'd get down that fast
U should be
What difficulty is that lmao
it's aight I'm not grammatically correct
heresy

standard heresy/damnation
I read his name as Mike hunt for a second
pawesome
normaly heresy is so fun when you can hard carry it
you meet the strangest creatures
Under the table at Denny’s
Is my favorite grinding difficulty
finally
Mobility at 61
literally i spent like 600k ordo trying to roll this axe and then while i farmed mastery after grabbing it by just buying and selling axes
i rolled
LITERALLY
It’s bricked
Here is the famous one on the topic; Lt. Green covers it in a section, this is a fun resd and I'd love to practice from this treatise if i found anyone who sidesword or rapier at all
SIX PERFECT AXES
It’s bricked
If u dont trust Femboy Files™️ just look up "Lt. William Pringle Green treatise" and you'll find it
+1 mobility
It’s bricked
huh???????????
Delete that shit
Yeah meow we hate you
yea meow
Me and Marcie boy hope you die
syrup pawjob under the table at denny's I'm assuming
Alternatively the title
??????????????????????????????????????????????

I saw the words under the table at denny's
And u say u hate what i post..
and I saw pawsome
Anywho
See this is why I got someone else to say it
so I made the connection
They get all the flak
can confirm is great
logical
How do double stab with knife?
double stab?
I mea you can h2 > light and it'll do two stabs with the mk3 pretty quickly
🐟
other than that idk what you could mean
If u gave me power armor and i was a Mister of Battle w a power rapier (traditiobal Spanish Destreza school rapier) and like a plasma pistol
Id kill rinda
Full stop,,
No chosen of chaos needed,,
power armour loser!!!
Themster of battle
Ah
Wokehammer 40k pronouns
Lt. Green will save me..
get out of your glorified carapace plates
Sisters and misters im going a step further
fight me with power swords like a man
Themsters of battle
U traumatized precious ralsei..
America explain
NOOOOOO not the sssniperwolf pickup line
ewwwww betterdiscord
Absolutely insane reflexes
it's a message logger
Hate that mf
Im not a themster of battle
lmfao
Im a boy..
Oh
Mister of battle,,..
you're a gal
Freak,,.
Check your boy womb.
Cister of battle
face it
NOP
No im talking about myself

Fake newz
Sister
Ok u can be a themster my mom said it was ok
this was fact checked by true american patriots to be false
Sgt soft hands and feet
Man what the Fuck
i skimmed thru a bit of it, very interesting
YOU TOO ??
Yall 2 freaky
Im dming pookie
Bai freaks
where did the pudding go
we're not freaky the flags are there
In the trash because people forgot to refrigerate
I ated it all
ngl that was peak
I didn’t say that shit
U will take your kick back and you will like it
John Fallout the lore
Nate is so me
Consider blowing up little bro

I FUCKING HATE KICKBACK
GIVE ME SOMETHING MACHINED
can I take it apart
Spooky month
Kick back braced auto gun
why do games keep making pipe guns so primitive
Man I hate Gun Lugger Ogryns, on fucking God.
this is going to be amazing
all the fucking ammo
all the fucking ammo
It's not even that, dude.
THey just sit back 24-fucking-7 holding M2 + M1 and not a single goddamn time do they ever actually get in there and melee shit.
lucky bullet kickback:
holy fuck I hated that
And every time that happens, everyone else has to pick up their slack
And people get swarmed
thank god they patched that shit
And get shit on, and likely downed and then probably dead.
Tell u why?
think happy thoughts
Cause they don’t use kickback
what would new assault shotgun variants be like
the lucky bullet kickback bug
One grenade launcher doom style
where you just don't lose ammo at all
or reload
they just keep going and going and going and going and going and going
I stopped playing with headphones for a while
small rumbler
Yeah, or a las shot gun
I would love that
If that counts as a varient
Do ballistic and laser weapons have different armour damage profiles in this games
why did rumbler/kickback even get a forgeworld pattern
Like are bullets better against maniac and stuff
I refuse to believe forgeworlds actually produce that shit
just call it brunt's special or smth
Bet
cuz they're literally just tubes with a piece of wood on it
that's different
Oh
administratum needs is cool n allat
How dare you insinuate ogryns needs are not worth of forge world
They are mightiest warriors
Now die
I refuse to believe kickback is real forgeworld production
Mannny
I can somewhat believe rumbler is considering it's a grenade launcher
i mean it aint hard to make
a tube a pin n thats it
kickback at most is probably just broken rumbler stuck back together
Maybe brunt is a forge world
i mean its a giant flare gun
a forgeworld has way more important things to make than tube with wood
Dm me this I’m at the gym rn but this gave me drawing inspiration
and I don’t want to scroll up later
Grim Fandango
I know what it is
the luty for example
But
2
the grease gun from ww1
Post the fowl foot
I weap for peak fiction
If you wanna meet god, watch the old hunstman videos with that thing
hi everyone. which weapons do u recommend for beginners?
Video summary: BBRRRRRT
rashad II combat axe
revolver
simple and effective
That combo will teach you some really bad habits
easy to learn combos
good intro to melee
i have so many knife collection
Yes, too powerful even, people that start with it seriously suck at using anything else
I am gonna end up a rapier pleb?
O fuck
start weak then
achyls
and vraks IX
How good is it now
it's fucking ass
and it still is fucking ass
God I wish I could costumise gun for ammo type and scope
And prob flashlight in base game
ignore them
yk what I hate more?
infantry lasgun
holy fuck just give me surgical/headhunter combo like every other lasgun
infantry lasgun makes me fuckin snooze
it's vanilla flavoured
and I like vanilla
@modern lintel @acoustic dune https://open.spotify.com/track/3tDAE08rX2Rnsg7Hp943f1?si=V04W-bIxQzCb2nfXfZqCSg&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A5aq9vTRVDvWysJ2xgBxTZL
The lasguns are fun (when the hit reg works)
I at least like my vanilla with something else on/in it
kino rider drive
I have attained a decent axe
put it next to my shovel, headhunter auto, knife, and infantry auto
Is there any combo for the Radhad I should learn?
it makes me feel like I'm helpless
and it does that well

spam light for regular, overhead for carapace/unyielding
which of the dclaw mks is the best?
by regular I mean everything
IV, shred rampage, flak maniac
can we just get friendly fire enabled at this point
toughness only, no health
I wanna see wounds r good players earn their toughness back instead of downing themselves at a single groaner
Poxwalkers rolling a dice on whether or not to one shot me
Damn not a single sound from her until then
hi I'm gojo, freshman of seven years
ones of the GOATS AKFG
@modern lintel https://open.spotify.com/track/6VQGwkK0U0YcLJcr348Wqz?si=hHSXIaY_RgGv_VVZv4YTHw&context=spotify%3Aplaylist%3A5aq9vTRVDvWysJ2xgBxTZL
kk
ewwwww
it's a half breed
half tannerknife half pure
it doesn't know what itself is
Eugenics zealot arc want what I expected today
I hate iron warriors
get them outta here
stealing from iron hands is pathetic
press special action
time it like blocks
yea
single target only
I know that
the panic chastise
LMFAO
also take FOTF
whoops
well yeah
the point of it was to stagger the trapper so it wouldnt run before i could kill it
She looks exhausted
i shit you not like 90% of the times that i fail that particular map its on those stairs
I SWEAR BULLSHIT IS HARDCODED INTO THOSE STAIRS I CAN FEEL IT
lmfao it's you
I've been jumped by 2 bosses on those stairs before
ME TOO
A Cspawn and a Plogryn
trappers, or a bunch of muties and bursters at the same time
or a blender of ragers and bulwarks
Both were real and not weak
Bulwarks love that area
every time i get there i take the ladder before the enemies see me or i bum rush the stairs as fast as possible
they're literally cursed
2 bosses + a daemonhost in the next area in archivum descent
that was my biggest non-maelstrom jump
did you wake up the daemonhost
i've been knocked off those st airs by pogryns before
maelstrom jump was a daemonhost behind, a daemonhost ahead, and 2 bosses in the middle
same area
Since they're bigger (most of the time) so more shit spawns
they blindside me aroudn the corner and i get yeeted
we had to fight on the two flights of stairs + that small platform
if you didn't wake up the daemonhosts
you're a pussy

4 boss FFA
I carried with a shotgun
kill trash, man-stopper, throw krak, voc, repeat
then the ogryn purposefully ran into the host for 1 singular plasteel and dc'd after waking it
squeeb
I can wake up right now
gamers are gaming
Y is ur pfp poopmadness cat
I'm about to be.
Checking my russo-chud game for crafting then hoppin on the tide of the dark.
@spare talon what is dante's first ability in warframe
nope
stinger
EFT I'm assuming
woth picking picking up?

he casts an x and applies slash to everything in front of him, and makes the next page in his spellbook death
Nono
Ghoul too
The name.
vicodin is better
i return in the next 1000 years
I have to take them for my pancreas
it sucks though
Dont give me the medicine drug
he casts vorpal blade from shin megami tensei 3 nocturne featuring dante from the devil may cry series
Dr Peeper
Proof?
more mouse bites
None for you

Nice for u 2 come out though

Bros dodging hard
Ur queer awakening is real
she literally have a bridget pfp
Cica is a guy...
literally in denial
Frog im so cooked..
Tintin r u a dorn grub
No, Cica is a guy.
@paper harness is this ur grub
id kwhat you want from me
your behaviour just matches up
No
Dorn grubs smh...
One of the many grublings and grublettes
Wtf
This 1 is feral
Feral grub !
Aaaah !!
I'm a lobotomite
Dorn y r u awake
Wtf it's like tea time 4 u
Go 2 bed
Anywho frog do u play thundering war
The peakest dlc
No, I don't play the game of leaked military documents.
FNV mid
Kid named dead money:
I hate FNV fans

U can only take 1 bar it's an allegory for greed
Dead money fucking sucks unless its your last dlc.
we can nail them to crosses and I'd still not be satisfied
lonesome road is peak dlc
I love dead money
And at that point you cant even do anything with all the gold bars.
Me w a mysteriously gold shaped neck: oh damn that's deep..
cope and seethe
dead money is literally the best DLC
The easiest thing is to kill Elijah and carry his severed head to the exit with all the gold in his inventory.
it's lights out + ventilation purge as a DLC
Then you do the same thing to some poor viper.
LMFAO tintin
and I love that
That actually fucking sucks
he ended up being a goofy ass villian
THIS IS DARKTIDE DISCORD
i have a personal vendetta against dead money since i did it at low level like a dumbass
GET ON DARKTIDE !!

yesm
He's a schizophrenic idiot that decided to piss off the world's angriest mailman. That was a terrible idea from the get-go.
no because i'm bad
FML
can I?
DID THEY ASK
Not care
seems so
shittiest player incoming
Muggy my beloved
I prefer vc tho
there are vc channels

ok i will join because i am bored
jacket?
Ill drag him into a vc
Lmfao
69 again?
Morse code transmitter
ok i am kinda liking that setup a lot
the channel I mean
Yah sure
is duelling sword a reasonable swap to the dagger now
@copper hawk which channel bozo
69
Real and based take in chat
I have no issues with getting into a vc, youre just subjecting yourself to my bitching because this game has dogsht hitreg.
this is proof I'm not a dorn grub
Just kill them harder
I love dead money
I will find you.
this is mandatory
mandatory post again
AW HELL NAW CICA IS USING THE GIMP HOOD ON HIS ZEALOUT
No no, gotta kill ‘em wider, for better hitreg
how r u afraid of me
what can you be doing right now that's more important than blade runner
^ i don't want to type it's 3:20 am
I need to take a dose
gimme a second
I have to count pills like an old person
maybe
I still own a rat so :P
I wish I was house
I'm a med student with a shit lifespan
don't think I'll live long enough to be a dr
Bro is whiffing a huge fart...
@copper hawk new kanye album...
Noc tua
Deep in my soul I know I need space skaven
@copper hawk my rig is 7 years old
no because we already have orks
don't expect me to log on fast
no because we can* have all the things
KRUMP DEM STUPID 'UMIES
picnic table lookin ass
shovel knife
hh9
right ok game
@ripe quest are you still alive?
holy fuck the pinyin got butchered
if i say Exhilljuice 3 times, do you appear?
@grizzled aspen ACTIVATE WINDOWS
guzzling that exhill juice
HOLY FUCK
No.
1:'dmf'
2:'LogMeIn'
3:'animation_events'
4:'buy_until_rating'
5:'ChatBlock'
6:'CollectibleFinder'
7:'contracts_overlay'
8:'creature_spawner'
9:'crosshairs_fix'
10:'crosshair_remap'
11:'custom_hud'
12:'for_the_drip'
13:'for_the_drip_extra'
14:'FullAuto'
15:'Healthbars'
16:'InventoryStats'
17:'KeepSwinging'
18:'kill_tracker'
19:'ManyMoreTry'
20:'more_characters_and_loadouts'
21:'NumericUI'
22:'PenancesForTheMission'
23:'quickest_play'
24:'Ration Pack'
25:'reveal_blessings'
26:'settings_extension'
27:'SpecialsTracker'
28:'TalentRefundBelow'
29:'true_level'
30:'ui_extension'
31:'weapon_customization'
32:'weapon_customization_mt_stuff'
russian devs i think
dis all i got
Is this atom rpg?
trudograd sequel
Ahh
Im pret sure its also a shadow warrior refference
Since the main protag is called lo wang
whats gone
look at the missions
train
real
me when the days i scheduled off to go to an interview dont get scheduled off guess whos not getting a 2 weeks
One stim is a game changer.
Real game changer was dueling sword become universal
is Thy Wrath be Swift working on ranged?
yes
So…
huh
What’s the dump stat for the thunderhammer?
I just started using it and noticed the reaper/shotgunners weren't staggering me
any stun, knockback, slow, that isnt caused by a stamina break or something that knocks you off of the ground is completely removes
this means you can continue to use an auspex without dropping it from a hit
yeah noticed that aswell
which is great because my Randoms are too stupid to cover or do it themselves
also the parry into crushers while using fotf is sauce
SEX!!!!!!!
Say, k, what’s the agreed upon dump stat for thunderhammer?
defences
damage, first target, and penetration all affect the final damage of the weapon
crowd controll affects the attack speed
defences only affects dodge distance slightly beyond 51%
this is guaranteed if you aim for the head right?
Anyone tried the new evis rending blessing? I used it in a few games and it does do well vs carapace and maniacs
if you have duellest up, yes
.
gotcha
Is it bad that I use shock and awe for thunderhammer?
been saucy to do against pats
yes
Hmm.
quite possibly the worst blessing on that weapon
What would be better?
thrust and headtaker/slaughterer
Headtaker/slaughterer helps reaching the 1hit on bruisers
Pfeh…
thunderous trauma
I use martyrdom
actually hold on lol
I know what you are
Rather be safe than sorry cole
Shhhhhhh theyll hear you.
pull day death
no momentum????
idc thats only 15%
no wounds?????
Well it’s better than nothing
fine
FINE
How do you spawn those? Mods?
What do you guys think is currently the best melee weapon for Zealot for just general use?
That’s entirely build based
So, like. Just running a standard charge+piety build.
rashad, brutal momentum and headtaker with flak and unyielding (or unarmored unless all damage stats are 80%)
@hallow bane
that build structure can also work with every weapon on zealot too
if they didn't make throwing knives up on the dpad I would use them more
and can be tweaked for weapons that have a crit chance blessing (or flat out innate crit like knife) like this
This is why I use pc
Also, couldn’t you reconfigure the button commands?
wouldn't be an issue if I could remap my controls
not unless I have an elite controller iirc
can prob put it on a paddle
i have no idea how anyone plays this game with a controller
have 9k hours in v2 on it and like 2k here
not a problem other than using plasma and throwing knives
the sens for plasma is atrocious
and once again throwing knives being up on the dpad is dumb
Y'all think there's any way to make the flamer not redundant?
I guess pair it with knife?
eeeeh?
It’s meant to be a crowd control
Went to bed early
Idfk
not terrible but like
by using it with any weapon that isnt exellent at horde and elite clear
knife can get eaten by trash mobs when you're trying to shoot specials or like 30 shooters
Excuse me? What the?
Up on dpad?
Throwing knives usually handle them well
I can't imagine that melee weapon would even be worth using at that point
can't fight hordes OR kill elites?
knife fits that bill
duelling sword fits that bill
and those are what i run flamer with
wait what?
and they are two of the strongest zealot weapons in the game
true?
it costs like 8 flamer ammo to wipe out an entire horde
Think it’s supposed to be “Melee weapon that can’t do horde clearing well but does kill elites well”.
Zealot gets so many melee buffs I can't imagine you couldn't still wipe a horde with them
I have come to zealot chat to grant wisdom, drop grenade regen unless you are going for voc
zealot has grenade regen?
When weapon's mastery rank reaches the maximum, can I increase all its stats to the max values listed there? i can buy white tier revolver. The mobility value reaches a maximum of 60, while the others show a maximum of 80.
yes
this might be confusing
but throwing knives are gained by ammo packs
not grenades
so survivalist works with throwing knives since it gives ammo
and knives fall under ammo technically
the max potential of weapons are gonna differ per weapon
the highest a stat can be is 80% (ik its weird but its just how it is rn), and there is always going to be a deficit of 20 points
so one stat might be 75 and another would be 65 on that weapon
or one would just be 60
ideally you want to find a weapon that has 60% in the least desirable stat, so all the desirable stats are at their maximum potential
a good example of this is this revolver you just described
thats pretty much a perfect base stat roll
thank you
It is expensive to empower it all the way up from like 300 to 500 but it will at least reliably give u a max weapon
real
9 times out of 10 mobility/defences are going to be the ideal stats to dump, because their benefit is much less important than almost every stat
Say are they going to patch that stealth exploit?
you have unyielding on that thammer right?
after 51% mobility, every weapon has maximum possible effective dodges, and it only slightly increases dodge distance beyond that
which is like
ok cool but i could have more damage or reload speed or swing speed or crit bonuses etc
Certain weapons want 80% mob
Probably
like flamer
Like chain axe
oh that too
Even for a combat knife, isn't mobility as important as the others?
cuz they have both defences and mobility
and their dodges suck ass
so you want mobility on chaxe
i found 61 mobility, 80 all others
0 mobility 2 handed chainaxe
pretty much yeah
the dodge distance is already insane on knife, you will likely be unable to tell the difference between 60 and 80%
Guessing you know what I’m referring to?
whereas the other 4 stats literally influence damage in some way
base damage, crit/headshot damage and attack speed, damage bonus against the first enemy hit, and damage against armor types
are the other stats
So would Flamer want 60 Damage over 60 Mobility in your view?
so its like cool im fine with losing 3 pixels on my dodge for those to be max lol
yes
it is comical how little damage does on flamer
60 and 80 is a difference of 1 damage on the impact that applies the burn
i shit you not
I know the damage isn’t a big deal on the flamer, I’m just wondering how realistic a mobility difference is 80 v 60 Mobility
how many materials i need for upgrade to 500 from 260?
Yes
I’ve used the flamer like 3-4 games in 2K hours 
considering that youre mostly backpedaling with it as the stuff youre flaming is moving towards you, the dodge distance is actually going to be useful




