we dont say /retry around here
#zealot-class
rocky nacelle
placid fiber
@spare talon Well, Cole... if you go full villain arc, none of us will blame you... hell... we'll probably support you instead
spare talon
disconnecting and immediately reconnecting
rocky nacelle
<@142046391504601088> Well, Cole... if you go full villain arc, none of us will ...
speak for yourself
spare talon
which i rarely use, i mostly use it if i REALLY want the game to finish, or we're basically at the end, or whatever
spare talon
like if i go down and i know that im going to die, and the mission wont continue without me and im wanting to get the team to the end, i might do it
or if im pissed off enough
but most times i just dont do it, like here too
they lost that game like 30 seconds later btw lol
placid fiber
like if i go down and i know that im going to die, and the mission wont continue...
I mean when the most competent player goes down... the wiping chance goes from 0% to like... 90%...
That's more or less the rule of randos
placid fiber
*whisper cadia stands and so should you*
💯
fleet zealot
IKR
fleet zealot
jesus fuck my teammates can go down 3 times each but if i go down once gg
fleet zealot
fert
placid fiber
jesus fuck my teammates can go down 3 times each but if i go down once gg
Yep, it's 100% a thing
broken walrus
When you turn the corner into a trapper and you realize the run is over
rocky nacelle
kid named throwing knife
placid fiber
kid named throwing knife
his cousin drawn autopistol
fleet zealot
i don't path to throwing knives cause i'm not a cod kid
rocky nacelle
whatever that means
broken walrus
If im locked in, sometimes the revolver pops up and blows its head off
placid fiber
i don't path to throwing knives cause i'm not a cod kid
fleet zealot
i caught up to one piece
what a great series, it's like those fuckin, tv dramas that's been going on for decades
placid fiber
i caught up to one piece
lucid dune
i don't path to throwing knives cause i'm not a cod kid
Second Wind is too strong to not take.
fleet zealot
rocky nacelle
its quite cringe tbh
rocky nacelle
I love immo nades but the top right nodes are literally just
fleet zealot
unless im going crit
lucid dune
Though if you are good enough you can use any build. =)
rocky nacelle
they're very stupid
fleet zealot
plus EWEW is just, dollar store second wind
vague depot
what perks and blessings on revolver again
lucid dune
I just love killing snipers at 60m with a throwing dagger...
placid fiber
plus EWEW is just, dollar store second wind
I love 4% toughness/sec
vague depot
i forgot if i asked this before do i generallyl use boltgun or bolt pistol
placid fiber
those were the days
tru
fleet zealot
two separate things really, bolt pistol is for pickoffs, for zealot boltgun is more of a magdump weapon
vague depot
pistol it is
placid fiber
two separate things really, bolt pistol is for pickoffs, for zealot boltgun is m...
I mean... boltgun is more or less a mag dump weapon until you get something u gotta snipe
vague depot
where do i shoot the bulwark with it to stagger them
vague depot
ah ok
fleet zealot
that slug staggers more than bolter
lucid dune
im miss 8% toughness/sec
I sometimes wish there was a toggle to go back to the old feat system...I miss 100% heal on Holy Revenant...and being able to get damage boost on a no +wounds build with old martyrdom passive.
fleet zealot
all honesty at this point of bulwark buffs just wait for them to open themselves up, or flank or have a teammate open them up
placid fiber
that slug staggers more than bolter
So THAT'S what it does better than the bolter...
fleet zealot
I sometimes wish there was a toggle to go back to the old feat system...I miss 1...
i hate 100% HR
25% is so much better, signed martyrdom player
also old martyrdom was stinky bad
vague depot
what perk and blessings for revolver
spare talon
100% HR in the current sandbox
with our current skill
absolutely insane
fleet zealot
So THAT'S what it does better than the bolter...
agri shotgun or whatever it is called post update is right underneath revolver when you give it manstopper
it's ridic
rotund shoal
what perk and blessings for revolver
handcannon surgical
spare talon
surgical handcannon
flak carapace iirc
vague depot
got i thanks
placid fiber
agri shotgun or whatever it is called post update is right underneath revolver w...
but... what if I wanna go ultra sniper mode with it?
fleet zealot
it just doesn't have the armor pen revolver has
lucid dune
100% HR in the current sandbox
with our current skill
absolutely insane
Yes...but in my mind it'd be a toggle between feat system and talent system. Your choice. So you'd be stuck with the old feats if you wanted to heal to 100% with revenant.
fleet zealot
but... what if I wanna go ultra sniper mode with it?
slug is dead accurate, bit of a harsh fall off compared to revolver but it is what it is
spare talon
Yes...but in my mind it'd be a toggle between feat system and talent system. Yo...
fuck that
current talents are massively better than the old ones even with 100% hr
fleet zealot
if every porkchop was perfect, we wouldn't have hot dogs
placid fiber
slug is dead accurate, bit of a harsh fall off compared to revolver but it is wh...
That and it doesn't have the ads bonus damage
like the normal shot
lucid dune
Sometimes I also miss old brumo...just pretend you're a blender and spin around in melee with antax, swinging at everything head-height, cleaving everything's head with infinite cleave.
Yes I know it was OP and broken as hell if you were good...but it was fun. =)
placid fiber
@fleet zealot Wait: agri slug + 20% to far enemies vet talent
placid fiber
if every porkchop was perfect, we wouldn't have hot dogs
Sounds like adhd. Attention deficit Hey, Donuts!
fleet zealot
<@301217938306760704> Wait: agri slug + 20% to far enemies vet talent
takes the edge off the fall-off
but doesn't solve it
lucid dune
fuck that
current talents are massively better than the old ones even with 100% ...
They are, for sure. Maybe let them use old brutal momentum if they want to use old feats too? =D
placid fiber
but doesn't solve it
fleet zealot
if every gun was revolver, we wouldn't have have brautos
lucid dune
And old pinning fire, etc.
fleet zealot
They are, for sure. Maybe let them use old brutal momentum if they want to use ...
no
fuck
AHHHH
lucid dune
In the old feat system if u weren't ready for a difficulty, u died.
north sedge
i mean, that's still true surprisingly
placid fiber
Just not as true as it was
spare talon
i mean, that's still true surprisingly
lucid dune
Could be a cod player that can shoot, but doesn't know which way to hold a knife.
placid fiber
It feels much easier to hard carry than it did before the talent tree
lucid dune
Yes
pure hare
which shotgun has the slug now
spare talon
agrip
north sedge
only smite psyker can mooch with any consistency and even then they chronically get overheaded
placid fiber
agri
lucid dune
only smite psyker can mooch with any consistency and even then they chronically ...
I quickly teach them when to stop smiting.
pure hare
is agri shotgun the best one
placid fiber
I quickly teach them when to stop smiting.
That's like trying to teach an old dog new tricks... only that would at least be somewhat doable...
rotund shoal
It feels much easier to hard carry than it did before the talent tree
before talent tree zealot was so much less mobile
and was afraid of gunners lol
north sedge
it was still the most mobile class
rotund shoal
it was still the most mobile class
yes but not like today
north sedge
and they were not if they knew anything
lucid dune
That's like trying to teach an old dog new tricks... only that would at least be...
Well, they sit there smiting 7 poxwalkers and nothing else while they're all 1-2m apart in a congo line, I look for a bigger target.
sullen forge
So Zealots, I want a genuine opinion on this, how does it feel knowing a Psyker can outdamage you 2x by literally spam clicking with a staff
placid fiber
it was still the most mobile class
followed by oggy right? lol
rotund shoal
and they were not if they knew anything
gunner stun
north sedge
gunner stun
twbs
placid fiber
^
lucid dune
So Zealots, I want a genuine opinion on this, how does it feel knowing a Psyker ...
Not true.
sullen forge
cause it made me beyond fucking depressed knowing the amount of time I dumped into this game means jack shit when someone can outperform me by spam clicking
placid fiber
not before skill trees
it was there before skill trees
north sedge
twbs has never changed
rotund shoal
nvm
placid fiber
my memory is wrong then
It was in the same row as holy rev
rotund shoal
It was in the same row as holy rev
ah that explains it
pure hare
So Zealots, I want a genuine opinion on this, how does it feel knowing a Psyker ...
as DS zealot who mostly poke, i end up killing more elites/specials usually
lucid dune
You dont know about Surge Voidstrike
I do, I play all classes, and am never out-damaged by that much.
placid fiber
So Zealots, I want a genuine opinion on this, how does it feel knowing a Psyker ...
No different than it has for a while now lol
lucid dune
@sullen forge Any class can put up numbers like that when played well.
placid fiber
Idc if they outdamage me lol
pure hare
^
placid fiber
I'm more about surviving and disablers
lucid dune
All classes are good.
pure hare
yea it's irrelevant metric
placid fiber
yea it's irrelevant metric
if anything I'm kinda proud of them for doing decently
rotund shoal
psyker is "best class" until they miss a dodge and get one shot by a rager and poxwalker
lucid dune
@sullen forge But yes, surge voidstrike is good bowling-ball killing power. 1-Shotting crushers never gets old.
rotund shoal
then you get to flex on them
placid fiber
psyker is "best class" until they miss a dodge and get one shot by a rager and p...
aka: what happens to at least 90% of rando psykers
lucid dune
some weapons better than others on diferent maps
sullen forge
Literally outdid them in weakspot and specials/disablers but they fucking tripled the entire team via spam clicking
like holy shit
fleet zealot
isn't the old be less op, tho
it's braindead easy
sullen forge
0 brain required
fleet zealot
current bm is better but at least players have to engage with breakpoints
i hate both
rotund shoal
0 brain required
if theyre under 100 damage taken theyre probably proper good
ornate bone
rotund shoal
on histg it can be difficult on psyker to both defend from heavy hordes and gunners at the same time
sullen forge
if theyre under 100 damage taken theyre probably proper good
over, I was literally the only one with like 75 taken
fleet zealot
can't believe assail got indrectly buffed
fleet zealot
on histg it can be difficult on psyker to both defend from heavy hordes and gunn...
assail and/or venting flames walks in the room
lucid dune
can't believe assail got indrectly buffed
I haven't tried it yet, how's the cleave? =)
sullen forge
can't believe assail got indrectly buffed
Kill all soykers
lucid dune
with the talent
fleet zealot
I haven't tried it yet, how's the cleave? =)
amazing
ornate bone
I need to up my ragdoll count because assail is literally just making shit disappear
lucid dune
Nice...
spare talon
I haven't tried it yet, how's the cleave? =)
wheeeeee
fleet zealot
i get hacker kill feeds if the elite packs don't have oggys/maulers in them
rager packs are just, free food
placid fiber
can't believe assail got indrectly buffed
assail got buffed?
fleet zealot
assail got buffed?
yes
placid fiber
How?
fleet zealot
100% cleave based on peril
placid fiber
oh lol
fleet zealot
and scrier's you can't blow up for 10 seconds
rotund shoal
assail and/or venting flames walks in the room
sure but it does take some skill
fleet zealot
so you can just dump all your assial
lucid dune
I need to up my ragdoll count because assail is literally just making shit disap...
lol...i thought about maxxing out my ragdolls and corpses, etc...I have a superfast PC but idk if it'd make it micro-stutter more
rotund shoal
just look at the droves of rando psykers killed
fleet zealot
sure but it does take some skill
the skill of moving your mouse a little bit 😔
thorn sable
Literally outdid them in weakspot and specials/disablers but they fucking triple...
Post it 😂
rotund shoal
and of all the level 1000+ people, psykers are the ones who go down most often
fleet zealot
like god damn
placid fiber
the skill of moving your mouse a little bit 😔
Impossible... moving my mouse...? Who would be of such skill?!
thorn sable
Show us this super psyker
fleet zealot
who thought that scrier's node was a good idea
sullen forge
Post it 😂
I would if my internet wasn't utter dogshit and DC'd multiple times at the end of it
lucid dune
and of all the level 1000+ people, psykers are the ones who go down most often
The ole glass cannon...
placid fiber
who thought that scrier's node was a good idea
cough doesn't work with surge staff rmb
spare talon
I would if my internet wasn't utter dogshit and DC'd multiple times at the end o...
what was their name
sullen forge
I'll check if it still has the logs
fleet zealot
you can go EP which adds a hidden +3 cleave on assail or just go DD for damage maxing
lusty oar
the left click machine gun psyker bringing +2 wounds because they keep blowing up 
lucid dune
I'd go down more as psyker if i didn't run 2x health 1x stam curios...
fleet zealot
*cough* doesn't work with surge staff rmb
or purge staff
placid fiber
or purge staff
Yep lol
fleet zealot
haven't tested with BR yet
sullen forge
what was their name
Psyker was named Nagisaku
sullen forge
Just peak surge spam
spare talon
ah so it wasnt cyra
sullen forge
Blame the dogshit modem
fleet zealot
but if you go BR -> scriers you should be tested by a shrink
spare talon
were they machine gun macroing it or just normal spamming it
placid fiber
with warp charges I can get 7% peril per surge staff cast lol
sullen forge
were they machine gun macroing it or just normal spamming it
Not once
lucid dune
but if you go BR -> scriers you should be tested by a shrink
Well...it is top boss dps with a columnus. =D
sullen forge
did I see them use melee
thorn sable
Wow incredibly based
sullen forge
so probably macro cause they had Psyker
ornate bone
but if you go BR -> scriers you should be tested by a shrink
haha yeah I never did that
spare talon
ok but was it like
1ms shots
placid fiber
but if you go BR -> scriers you should be tested by a shrink
Awww...
lucid dune
That was my first gunker build before I tried smite and assail.
thorn sable
If you do the wee balls you can spam those hard
placid fiber
I only have it on 1 build tho
fleet zealot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Lm8_0ijnk you won't believe what the first verse sounds like
placid fiber
1 build that I haven't actually used lol
fleet zealot
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/halo-halo-reach-halo-elite-halo-dance-halo-reach-elite-gi...
no tbagging, 0/10
placid fiber
darkpill looking for the tea bags
Yeah, I need my green fix
thorn sable
Must be Bri’ish
lucid dune
green tea is good
thorn sable
Nah, I just enjoy the finer things
Teabagging
lucid dune
🍵
placid fiber
Man... now I want tea lol
rotund shoal
oh i thought you meant weed
lucid dune
sorry
placid fiber
I've never had weed lol
rotund shoal
probably for the best
thorn sable
The first time I smoked weed I woke up on top of a dumpster in a converted warehouse in bushwick
That was twenty years ago 😞
rotund shoal
The first time I smoked weed I woke up on top of a dumpster in a converted wareh...
sounds about right
placid fiber
Man... that's more exciting than anything I did during my drinking days
Then again I only drank at home >.>
rotund shoal
if were talking bout exciting
i once took acid with my friends and we broke into a construction site and climbed a crane
didnt die (obviously)
placid fiber
I'm afraid of heights lol
When I look down... and see like... a 1 story difference...
rotund shoal
that thing was over 10 stories tall and the stupidest of our friend group got in the driver seat
it gave a shake and i thought he turned it on
but apparently its just what cranes do
frozen kernel
The first time I smoked weed I woke up on top of a dumpster in a converted wareh...
I’m convinced stories like this were people who either got laced weed or K2
placid fiber
Just you talking about that thing is triggering my phobia lol
Cause I'm imagining being 10 stories up on an unstable surface
rotund shoal
its actually quite stable but you do feel the wind moving it left and right
which is weird
rotund shoal
first theres stairs and once you get to the very top its just a ladder
frozen kernel
i once took acid with my friends and we broke into a construction site and climb...
I did this sober with my buddy when we were teenagers. We’d sneak into the local quarry at night and climb the big machine, then run down the conveyor belts and jump off into the massive sand piles if worker trucks came
vapid sun
Does curio bomber resist or corruption resist help with poxbursters?
placid fiber
I did this sober with my buddy when we were teenagers. We’d sneak into the local...
That really does sound like what teenagers would do lol
frozen kernel
One time we got “caught” during the day when my buddy sank waist deep into a swamp river we tried to jump across
placid fiber
Oof
frozen kernel
I mostly cleared it, got a lil wet. He threw his shoes at me and went to ford the river
He did not ford the River
frozen kernel
I was sitting there laughing my ass off on the bank with his shoes as the worker hopped out of his tanker truck, and just came to laugh at him with me
spare talon
Does curio bomber resist or corruption resist help with poxbursters?
the only thing that affects bursters is corruption, which will only affect how much corruption damage you recieve, not how much total damage you will take
placid fiber
I was sitting there laughing my ass off on the bank with his shoes as the worker...
sounds about right lol
spare talon
itll still be 100 with no forms of dr
vapid sun
poxbursters always seem to be a huge threat
frozen kernel
Couple of dudes that hit the trails on their ATV’s gave us a ride out of the woods on the other side
placid fiber
itll still be 100 with no forms of dr
so ogryns take 80 base damage?
rotund shoal
your story sounds so american banx
spare talon
so ogryns take 80 base damage?
why would that be
frozen kernel
Yeehaw, I live in Massachusetts too
placid fiber
wait do ogryns still have the 20% toughness and hp dr?
paper harness
@copper hawk I slept, stinky boy
placid fiber
why would that be
they at least used to have 20% dr as a base thing
spare talon
<@576701404475949056> I slept, stinky boy
theres a first time for everything
frozen kernel
mine happened in germany
Cause: No Lüften
placid fiber
they at least used to have 20% dr as a base thing
and this was for both hp and toughness
wait 20% dr implies that in general I think
placid fiber
itll still be 100 with no forms of dr
So... you're telling me that marty zealots who take the 40% dr on damage that does more than 1 wound in damage talent only take 60 damage from bursters?
placid fiber
It's for hp damage
placid fiber
lol
placid fiber
I mean you only get up to 250 some hp with 3 5% hp perks... so 100 damage on 6 or 7 wounds is over 1 wound in damage
south grove
dclaw zealot is so fun
I love being able to watch house while playing because it makes it so mindless
lusty oar
try dclaw ogryn
placid fiber
try dclaw ogryn
b-but... what about d-claw turkey?
paper harness
south grove
placid fiber
wouldn't d-claw oggy just be a bull butcher oggy?
placid fiber
Man... I haven't used a bull butcher in ages lol
south grove
Man... I haven't used a bull butcher in ages lol
big combat knife
placid fiber
big combat knife
except... on the bull butcher you pretty much just rashad it up...
fleet zealot
south grove
tank hammer
light badge
God I fucking hate nausea
fleet zealot
rocky nacelle
and theres nothing around for me to regen toughness with soulstealer
and im at 0 peril for quietude
that was such a free win
light badge
and theres nothing around for me to regen toughness with soulstealer
That revive was cool tho
remote lark
i just spent 3k to fix my car a week ago
and my cars broken again
wont turn over
smile
rocky nacelle
That revive was cool tho
which one
light badge
So swag
rocky nacelle
thats why im running agri revo anyway
I was surprised we even got the revives off
that staircase area is aids
spare talon
I imagine it would be like shred + rampage?
yeah p much
the crit damage is nothing to write home about, so its pretty much if you want on-crit effects from the skill tree while using evis
fleet zealot
I love carapace/bulwarks stopping assail
that's what the void is for
rocky nacelle
spare talon
with shred and scourge, you can easily scoop up enduring faith and crit cdr without even needing piety
you can do this with evis, chainsword, dclaw, knife and dsword (riposte)
basically any weapon that can get a good crit blessing can allow you to take IJ
non piety crit builds 
rose flower
I just realized the pirate zealot outfit from rogue trader is complete with the dueling sword
ornate bone
buzz lightyear gif
spare talon
I really wanna do a Scrier's BB build
pops scriers
bbs shooters and poxers
falls off ledge
ornate bone
did they elaborate
spare talon
no
ornate bone
did they leave
spare talon
no
rose flower
Warp fueled mental shennanigans
light badge
Tbf
spare talon
what a twist
subversion of expectations
light badge
Lights out
And they might have DD and are tunneling the only bright thing they can see
spare talon
Lights out
speaking of lights out and being ledged
foresight is amazing
spare talon
why no assail nodes
rocky nacelle
for regen I find it personally comes up fast enough for how I use it
and I learned actually that the 100% cleave talent
can just do the assail sub node for you
light badge
Psyker has combat shotguns now right?
rocky nacelle
(iirc 20% peril has assail pierce 3 targets)
spare talon
ig i just use it way more often than yall do
modern lintel
cowards wont give psyker the full size bolter
marsh plume
ig i just use it way more often than yall do
Nah same with me I use assail on every pack of chaff I see
rocky nacelle
why no assail nodes
modern lintel
shove and bolter shouldve been added to share list change my mind
rocky nacelle
also I literally do not feel a difference
with this off tbh
theres never been a time when I thought "I wish I had quick shards rn"
modern lintel
https://open.spotify.com/track/05xhhiw0lsuwIGO46zH8mc?si=yKEQ0wjrQGOOR3FJsWvA4g @rocky nacelle peak darktide music
rocky nacelle
also you havent played with my gunker cole
but when I throw assail out
its usually to follow up or initiate when im going to or during melee
other than that its all cowboy gameplay
rocky nacelle
https://open.spotify.com/track/05xhhiw0lsuwIGO46zH8mc?si=yKEQ0wjrQGOOR3FJsWvA4g ...
mmm grungy
spare talon
https://open.spotify.com/track/05xhhiw0lsuwIGO46zH8mc?si=yKEQ0wjrQGOOR3FJsWvA4g ...
peak knife zealot music
https://open.spotify.com/track/5no0OthLKsSyHwlsO8spgv?si=6cd80845474b45ec
(get it cuz the instrumentation is built around a bike rev and the joke is knife zealots are fast)
i am very funny
rocky nacelle
gunker knife is faster
spare talon
are you happy
rocky nacelle
oh god
modern lintel
https://open.spotify.com/track/5ixQCurcV2gKLqJGMeLvpz?si=OvccxqgJT3GcJ73vIp45qA unironicly in my darktide rotation
rocky nacelle
https://open.spotify.com/track/5XtbBgQM4PJae0CVmiuwBN?si=84fdcbf2abe04f40
I remember an era of just a bunch of random remixes using this as the base
rustic steppe
Yo okay so, chainaxe with that bleed blessing is brutal.
spare talon
I remember an era of just a bunch of random remixes using this as the base
you may be thinking of yo-kai disco
rocky nacelle
im not
it was either remixed with that as the base
or it was just used in a million meme montages
or both
spare talon
or it was just used in a million meme montages
this was the case for both of them
spare talon
or it was just used in a million meme montages
back in the day
albino made 2 fortnite meme montages, and those two songs were used
back to back
rocky nacelle
alb*no
🤢
he may be cringe now but thanks to him I know so many european people and have EU friends from being in a server with them
modern lintel
cole ex fortnit gmer??
rocky nacelle
then we left and made our own when he was turning giga f*rry crinfe
spare talon
ah ok
rocky nacelle
I know some based across the pond people
an aussie a few UK people
polish men who hate poland
(that seems like a common trait among the polish)
spare talon
idrc cuz at the time he had some of the best meme montages out there
until mpedits existed and no one can ever top hiom
rocky nacelle
thats not max0r
spare talon
absolutely ruined the scene for me, he is too peak
spare talon
thats not max0r
maxor is considered his own style at this point
modern lintel
iv met over two dozen irish ppl from dayZ specifically not sure what attracts them to that game
spare talon
mpedits just does the highest quality shitposts known to man for destiny
like 2 videos a year, if that
rocky nacelle
hey I know that gun
spare talon
like thats 80% of the reason to watch it
its just so good
rocky nacelle
(it absolutely fucks)
hard nexus
why are you on malice
spare talon
why are you on malice
was a malice mael, was bored
hard nexus
ah
rocky nacelle
im ngl cole
something was messed up with me over the time of doing D2 pvp
when I would PvP on my titan
(I would run dead mans tale or vigilance wing)
and I did not feel bad at all
you see a titan peaking you with these 2 things
better hope they cant fucking aim
though I suppose being an ace of spades hunter wasnt any better
spare talon
https://youtu.be/ZJTdPmFZzKM?si=0ADiljDHqVnW__C-
unironically rewatching this in full cuz i remembered it existed
hes one of those kinds of youtubers
rocky nacelle
kill someone
get memento mori
instant dodge roll to reload as hunter
ggs to anyone who was 1v1ing you
98-102 dmg per headshot
spare talon
hearty nebula
man I miss DMT
rocky nacelle
man I miss DMT
hearty nebula
sometimes i want to reinstall d2 just to use that gun again but man i fucking hate that game
rocky nacelle
I would only return to that game if I had a raid team
like I did in the first place
hearty nebula
i never got into raiding proper
rocky nacelle
(it also helps new DLC was coming out at the time)
hearty nebula
i think the only raid i did at launch in D2 was VoG
got the exotic
then kinda.. stopped playing
mostly bc that dlc and everything afterwards was kind of mid imo
rocky nacelle
just like my goat YMFAH
@spare talon may not be a souls guy
but these videos are peak
the actual first video I saw by him
(and it was my favorite souls game to boot)
instantly one of my top channels
hearty nebula
the only soul things i watch now are zullie and limit breakers
and occasionally go back to yung maestro's stuff cuz his editing was on point
remote lark
how troll is just stam on the knife for more PA spam?
i really don't have damage troubles with any specific type of enemy, and it oneshots ragers on crit and two without so i don't need maniac damage
only other option i think is unyielding but feels like less value than more stam
played in around in psyk for a while but other than apparently shotgunners survive with 25hp and bleed to death or whatever i'm not really missing any important bp's either
fleet zealot
how troll is just stam on the knife for more PA spam?
i really don't have damage...
pretty troll
you can just sack a curio slot for +3 stam + stam regen minor perks which is infinitely less value loss
spare talon
https://youtu.be/gRdjRtYhy8Q?si=lVgvI1cMOEVTEDet
para if anything watch specifically at 10:22 onward
liteal peak editing
rocky nacelle
and occasionally go back to yung maestro's stuff cuz his editing was on point
Krazy was my goat
dark souls 2 legend
loved maestro as well
but the real goat?
MrNosec
2015-16 humor
be ready for alot of airhorn and loud
rocky nacelle
para if anything watch specifically at 10:22 onward
liteal peak editing
ill watch it later about to go to the jim
fleet zealot
why sack 25% or even 10% damage on a weapon perk when you can sack +3 for a curio that doesn't do damage in the first place
and stam regen is always viable for minor curio perks
if you want to PA even more
spiral anvil
I played with evis new rending blessing
It feels really good vs crushers and maniacs 
frozen kernel
and stam regen is always viable for minor curio perks
B-but my games lantern build said to take toughness regeneration and sprint eff /s 
opaque tangle
how troll is just stam on the knife for more PA spam?
i really don't have damage...
Furry
But also super troll, like bandito said
opaque tangle
Teach me o wise one
hearty nebula
how troll is just stam on the knife for more PA spam?
i really don't have damage...
your roll is dogshit low tier bait and you should be ashamed of yourself. uninstall the game ASAP you fucking neckbeard
opaque tangle
Ooo
hearty nebula
(i jest)
opaque tangle
remote lark
you can just sack a curio slot for +3 stam + stam regen minor perks which is inf...
true
i forgot curios existed
lol
hearty nebula
curios my beloved
opaque tangle
Curious could use a little love
I miss how charms worked in vt2
They could go that route and add a little extra spice
opaque tangle
hearty nebula
no
opaque tangle
ok "dogtreat"
Name origin is not furry
hearty nebula
it is now
lusty oar
Name origin is not furry
idk man kinda sounds like you let dogs give you sloppy toppies
opaque tangle
Don't make me get the spray bottle
paper harness
Backup lmfao
south grove
opaque tangle
That is the worst way to put it lmao
paper harness
B-but my games lantern build said to take toughness regeneration and sprint eff ...
Sprint eff kino
opaque tangle
Dying to barrels needs to stop being a thing
south grove
then while arguing w/ me he got downed by the same dreg stalker 4 times
opaque tangle
Die
paper harness
I want to tk my team faster
south grove
Dying to barrels should be increased
I'll do it to him next time round
south grove
I want to tk my team faster
I agree
paper harness
Plasma? Off the map you go
paper harness
The only time I don’t leave or tk a smyker is if it is a friend
south grove
btw that guy had 6 wound as a psyker on malice
I'm leveling ogryn for the first time so :P
lunar fable
Incredible
opaque tangle
Wounds only serve one purpose, which is martyr zealots
paper harness
Martyrdom only exists for me to pull 70k boss dps
opaque tangle
Toughness regen on curios is basically just for loner zealots or vets running self sustain talent nodes.
lunar fable
If I see more than 2 wounds on anyone but marty zealot and ogryn
I'm expecting them to get downed
opaque tangle
I'm expecting them to get downed
They always go down at least 5 or 6 times per match
south grove
btw this is like the 3rd time today this exchange had happened
different people but always smykers
fleet zealot
only ever found one +3 stam curio
just melk gacha and you'll get it pretty quick
opaque tangle
I have a love hate relationship with smykers
fleet zealot
basically the only use for melk 250 gacha is curio
opaque tangle
Good ones make games a breeze
frozen kernel
If I see more than 2 wounds on anyone but marty zealot and ogryn
mfw 6 wound ogryn in T4
south grove
only ever found one +3 stam curio
I have 50+
lunar fable
The only smyker I can always trust is the friend I play with
south grove
20 of them are on vet
steep flame
About time
south grove
30 on zealot
opaque tangle
Bad ones fuck up everything, like zapping a pox burster and causing it to blow up on your team
fleet zealot
stay out of malice /j
fleet zealot
Toughness regen on curios is basically just for loner zealots or vets running se...
not even those lol
fleet zealot
loner is already fragmented down cause of it's own mechanic, and vet has amazing self toughnessr regen
lunar fable
No cleaver
paper harness
@unkempt dust what do you run on your cleaver
lunar fable
Club gaming
south grove
I love it when they zap a mutant I'm ready to one shot
when perfect parrying a crusher:
fleet zealot
the best case I've found for toughness regen curios is hardforcing pure gunlugger
opaque tangle
I swear the only thing I die to anymore is invisible or muted bursters, or knockback from them or barrels
south grove
I miss mobility
fleet zealot
like not ever bothering to put points into the heavy attacks=toughness
paper harness
I ask the only ogryn player who has out damaged me in a pub
south grove
I miss being able to turn quick
fleet zealot
invisible bursters?
opaque tangle
I guess you can put dogs ignoring all stagger so they can get a free point blank pounce
ornate bone
Silent bruiser gaming
lunar fable
But oggy have big shobel
ornate bone
Just eating half of my toughness out of fucking nowhere
ornate bone
Yes please fuck my shit up
frozen kernel
“Forgive me for not taking your advice on a T3 mission”
Player is hardstuck T3 because they have bad habits and dont listen because these new age gamers take any criticism as a personal insult
hollow field
https://youtu.be/8I6fmvp37TU?si=4W8cu1Z4xQ-xcYy4
God I miss funny Dark Souls videos.
Content dropped off sharply after Elden Ring released
south grove
“Forgive me for not taking your advice on a T3 mission”
>Player is hardstuck T...
level 30 +21 btw
frozen kernel
“Hey you should do this instead, you’re struggling and this isn’t doing anything for you”
“Who asked lmao lol xD”
south grove
a level 51 telling me to shut up about wounds
lunar fable
I don't trust true level
paper harness
level is never skill
opaque tangle
invisible bursters?
The ones who spawn in with no sound in spawn doors, or the ones that literally spawn on top of you when you're in a spot they are intended to show up when spawn rooms are too congested
south grove
level is never skill
true
paper harness
outside of the 400-900 range
south grove
I'm 150 on veteran and I'm ass
opaque tangle
I have had entire hordes spawn on top of me before, I'm honest to god not joking
paper harness
past 1000 players decrease in skill but have shit loads of playtime
gleaming hawk
Nothing stops you from reaching any level on sedition
paper harness
mathematically, time would
frozen kernel
I don't trust true level
I look at it like 100 Major’s in BF3. It was such a prestigious title, but when my friend who was so terrible that I was able to steal his tags 4 times on NOSHAR CANALS TDM hit 100 I realized that all level says is that they played a lot. It’s not like you lose levels if you go 2-47
paper harness
1600 hours of malice, shameful I know, got me 700 levels total on all classes
gleaming hawk
mathematically, time would
Wasn't there a bug at one point that let you catapult your level upwards?
paper harness
yeah
which is why you should never trust anyone's level above 2k unless you see playtime to match
south grove
My true level 34 psyker outdamaged a 400 vet with blue and purple gear
unless you main psyker and only have 34 I think he's a lobotomite and you actually got good at the game
gleaming hawk
1600 hours of malice, shameful I know, got me 700 levels total on all classes
I think 1600 hours of malice would make me unlearn how to play aurics, lol
fleet zealot
which is why you should never trust anyone's level above 2k unless you see playt...
i let gameplay speak for itself cause i've seen so many ass players with 5x my levels like
south grove
so yea I don't blame a lobotomite for being a lobotomite
fleet zealot
it's all they do
they just play darktide badly
but they won't change
cause they have playtime so it makes them correct
lusty oar
yes
lunar fable
I look at it like 100 Major’s in BF3. It was such a prestigious title, but when ...
It happens in a lot of games. Many games have people with high account levels, "special" titles, trophies, etc and they still manage to suck 
frozen kernel
God I miss funny Dark Souls videos.
Content dropped off sharply after Elden Ring...
I have a somewhat controversial opinion about ER. I actually think it’s one of the worst souls titles, for a variety of reasons. I’m really glad that it helped cement FS in the mainstream (even DS3 was still somewhat niche) but honestly I feel like it lacked so many of the aspects of the souls games that I loved
fleet zealot
ASS is even more bipolar than thousands of levels on a class players
literally either someone who is going to make you work to stay on top of the damage meters or someone you are going to struggle to save constantly
south grove
It happens in a lot of games. Many games have people with high account levels, "...
they got put into a good team and got carried
remote lark
reovlver takes carapace and..?
fleet zealot
cause they obv got carried
south grove
I'm not surprised
south grove
reovlver takes carapace and..?
yes
remote lark
paper harness
flak maniac
remote lark
ty
paper harness
flak elites
paper harness
DotNL has 6300 hours in dt but sucks
south grove
not carapace?
ofc no carapace
gleaming hawk
take carapace and infested
I think you mean crit dmg + stamina
south grove
they nerfed it a while back
south grove
I think you mean crit dmg + stamina
oh wait I know
remote lark
then wtf is the point of surgical and hand cannon
paper harness
he is a youtuber so i do not have to be careful with what i say
remote lark
if not to use revolver on crushers and stuff
paper harness
also speedruns pubs
south grove
stamina+sprint eff
remote lark
besides just specialists
paper harness
pls team kill him on sight
lunar fable
I only have like 600 hours and lot of that is probably afking in the mourningstar
south grove
he is a youtuber so i do not have to be careful with what i say
I don't have to see more he's definitely ass
gleaming hawk
I only have like 600 hours and lot of that is probably afking in the mourningsta...
Lol, I wish I had a stat for how many hours I was actually in-match
vast basin
gotta pump those numbers up
lunar fable
True
spare talon
about 1/3rd of my playtime is in the mourningstar
lunar fable
We need mission playtime
paper harness
I don't have to see more he's definitely ass
he uses macros and crutches on knife
paper harness
on staff psyker
south grove
he uses macros and crutches on knife
crutches on knife staff??
lusty oar
50% of my playtime ended up in for the drip
playing dressup is the true endgame
frozen kernel
they got put into a good team and got carried
I’ve found that it’s typically that these are the types of people who are (un)fortunate enough to just…have nothing going on. They don’t go to work/school so they aren’t as invested in doing well during the matches they get to play in their free time, because everything is their free time. It’s like actual NPC behavior, and they only exist to tank the average quality of player in games lol
gleaming hawk
.. macros on knife?
The punch-stab spam combo? Idk, it's probably what I'd do since my fingies are screwed
paper harness
he macros quell canceling
remote lark
The punch-stab spam combo? Idk, it's probably what I'd do since my fingies are s...
thats like clicking twice a second or elss though
paper harness
uses knife to run around instead of fighting
fleet zealot
I don't have to see more he's definitely ass
is that Aiden? /j
lunar fable
Knife solely for mobility 
frozen kernel
It’s just kinda sad that people feel the need to cheat in a CO-OP game that doesn’t even have a scoreboard vanilla
fleet zealot
if i see another quell macro abuser i'm going to join a inquisitio
gleaming hawk
ain't that cheating?
I wouldn't consider it so unless the macro is beyond what humans can do.
frozen kernel
Like folks are fiending for that small ego bump real bad, can’t blame them since the world’s been in a rough state but ugh
lunar fable
I actually don't even know what that macro enables
hard nexus
DotNL has 6300 hours in dt but sucks
what’s his character names?
frozen kernel
My buddy cheats at MH and I’m just like “ffffffwhy”
lunar fable
That's so dumb
south grove
I wouldn't consider it so unless the macro is beyond what humans can do.
it is
fleet zealot
ain't that cheating?
yes, any macros that go above human capability are cheating. Full auto and auto swing are fine cause they just swing like a normal player pressing the same key repeatedly. anything that uses an exploit/multiple buttons to go beyond the intended speed is a cheat
paper harness
I wouldn't consider it so unless the macro is beyond what humans can do.
15ms between staff m1
fleet zealot
I actually don't even know what that macro enables
you fire magic bolts as 15ms each
south grove
quell cancel macro is above human capacity
paper harness
even in comp play rts nobody is that fast
fleet zealot
over an entire match
hard nexus
it’s totally within human condition
fleet zealot
meow just built diff
hard nexus
over an entire match
yeah man
gleaming hawk
15ms between staff m1
ew
lunar fable
Yea I'm actually a robot so that's trivial for me
paper harness
what’s his character names?
DotNL on all
south grove
with 100% consistency
minecraft player:
paper harness
european
fleet zealot
i joined a game with 2 quell abusers and it just reminds me of the fuckin
hard nexus
DotNL on all
oh then i’ve never seen him
fleet zealot
infinite ammo rumbler
where i had 2 rumbleluggers in my lobby
and developed ptsd and hearing loss
hard nexus
sometimes in an elevator i’ll quell cancel to see how consistently i can do it
frozen kernel
Helldivers 2 Infinite Grenade Glitch
hard nexus
but i just don’t bother doing it at all
fleet zealot
and tinnitus
gleaming hawk
quell cancelling is not something I do either
hard nexus
and developed ptsd and hearing loss
lmfao
lunar fable
Was infinite rumbler back when the rumbler could stunlock bosses
frozen kernel
I’ve had psykers randomly blow themselves up in elevators and wasn’t sure what happened
hard nexus
I’ve had psykers randomly blow themselves up in elevators and wasn’t sure what h...
i’ve done that a couple of times lmfao
fleet zealot
i mean it's the same as the old QQ melee exploit
hard nexus
a few of those times were for a bit with my friend
frozen kernel
As a zealot I’ve just been like “do we shoot him or…?”
fleet zealot
where people downloaded a mod and then were attacking over 5 times a second
hard nexus
i should get a 3 stack of all psykers and the moment we get to an elevator with a random we all blow ourselves up
lunar fable
I’ve had psykers randomly blow themselves up in elevators and wasn’t sure what h...
I used to blow myself up in the ship so you'd see the explosion in the extraction cutscene 
gleaming hawk
As a zealot I’ve just been like “do we shoot him or…?”
That shouldn't be a question. Always shoot the psyker, just to be safe.
frozen kernel
i mean it's the same as the old QQ melee exploit
QQ just feels like it was a lot of extra effort for minimal payback on some weapons
gleaming hawk
i should get a 3 stack of all psykers and the moment we get to an elevator with ...
Synchronized daemon-pilling
frozen kernel
Although I don’t know what weapons were problematic. I just remember it wasn’t really worth for the Mk2 Evi back in the day
frozen kernel
It was nice to have quick access to the heavy M1 but during the QQ you could’ve just kept swinging
Plus Mk2 (now Mk3) H1 has been kinda cheeks so like
hard nexus
Although I don’t know what weapons were problematic. I just remember it wasn’t r...
i think h1 qq, even then, was actually suboptimal compared to PA, L repeat
frozen kernel
^ Exactly
frozen kernel
It’s just not worth the extra fiddling, and DT isn’t typically the kind of game I need to be sweating over like that
Just play better 4head
gleaming hawk
Also I tried playing dueling sword zealot and I can't do it. It hurts my fingies.
hard nexus
It’s just not worth the extra fiddling, and DT isn’t typically the kind of game ...
it’s also that h1 has awful cleave, whereas l2 l3 and PA have pretty good cleave
cleave damage*
buff h1 cleave damage, remove light damage cap, buff h2 damage to everything
sharp minnow
Also I tried playing dueling sword zealot and I can't do it. It hurts my fingies...
I was playing some endless hordes yesterday with team that kept on dying - I could feel my finger burn afterwards. Dueling sword is nice though - survivability is great.
frozen kernel
I love and hate this image
fleet zealot
h1 QQ h1 QQ
hard nexus
that people thinking h1 qq was optimal, actually wasn’t?
fleet zealot
i miss that
fleet zealot
that people thinking h1 qq was optimal, actually wasn’t?
it was when evi really sucked
fleet zealot
around the same time chaxe also really sucked cause fatshark couldn't do chain weapons that weren't weak
buff it
frozen kernel
It got huge buffs
Like across the board I believe. It was basically the “heavy sword at home”
hard nexus
around the same time chaxe also really sucked cause fatshark couldn't do chain w...
mk3 still is pretty rough even now :(
lunar fable
ratwave
frozen kernel
Dueling sword is burying Evi deeper into the soil
acoustic dune
Dueling sword is burying Evi deeper into the soil
i wish i could like stack thrust
hard nexus
mk3 isn't rough imo
it kind of is, it has really bad single target and damage caps
acoustic dune
the evil i could do
frozen kernel
Mk3 requires more brainpower to do what Mk15 does just M1 spamming, occasionally throwing out a heavy to delete specials
Which is so sad because I love using the entire Mk3 moveset
hard nexus
mk3 isn't rough imo
mk3 needs h2 to have more damage, h1 to have its cleave damage increased, and damage caps removed
fleet zealot
much like mk4 vs mk12, when the more difficult one isn't amazingly better and the other is just easier, people will gravitate to the easier option
hard nexus
the biggest thing i want though is h1 having cleave damage increased significantly
rn the cleave damage is awful
to the point it’s never worth doing it in horde except revved to snipe out an elite
frozen kernel
It’s kinda pathetic that a single wave of pox doesn’t just get deleted
Knocked down with a microfuckle of HP sure, but you won’t kill all of them even on headshots
hard nexus
to the point it’s never worth doing it in horde except revved to snipe out an el...
i don’t think it should kill like, 8 poxers in one swing, but it should kill 3-4 on a revved h1
south grove
let's go damnation!
frozen kernel
Meanwhile the swords have consistently just eviscerated everything except carapace for the entire lifetime of the game
fleet zealot
mk3 needs h2 to have more damage, h1 to have its cleave damage increased, and da...
how do you look at cleave damage on wartide again 💀
hard nexus
how do you look at cleave damage on wartide again 💀
you can’t, not in a way that’s easy to understand at least
you can look at the cleave targets stat
but idk what the number it says means
fleet zealot
yea but
hard nexus
but if you test in the psykanium
hard nexus
h1 has awful cleave values
long sluice
anyone know why I see so many zealots when running the heavy evis XV are using Wrath, isn't the weapon already hardcapped for targets?
hard nexus
im not openigndt
oh, if you mean the bp calculator, it’s bugged with the mk3 evis, it only displays one target, not cleave targets
acoustic dune
what is atabaxi
fleet zealot
anyone know why I see so many zealots when running the heavy evis XV are using W...
because some dumb guide on youtube or gameslantern
or people just fundamentally not knowing how cleave works as a stat in darktide
frozen kernel
what is atabaxi
Anthro catfolk. It’s the furry race
south grove
what is atabaxi
cat people
fleet zealot
not knowing it doesn't affect their actual damage output
acoustic dune
Anthro catfolk. It’s the furry race
KAJIT??????
fleet zealot
actuall i'm a ferretkin
frozen kernel
Basically better Khajit yeah
fleet zealot
using tabaxi ruleset
lunar fable
The zealot using savage sweep on their xv:
frozen kernel
Point and laugh
fleet zealot
deepstalker ranger+ twilight clearic
fleet zealot
The zealot using savage sweep on their xv:
savage sweep perfect strike
gotta cleave em all
long sluice
or people just fundamentally not knowing how cleave works as a stat in darktide
ok so you're thinking is the same as mine. I was wondering if I fundamentally got something wrong because almost every heavy evis player I see is running wrath.. I was going crazy...
south grove
why is elder scrolls races always an evil, fucked up version of a standard fantasy race
acoustic dune
doesnt mean it cant be a gigolo
frozen kernel
Just before we took a break, I told my patron to go kick rocks and now we’re on hiatus until the DM finishes his own new system to replace 5e
fleet zealot
doesnt mean it cant be a gigolo
hard nexus
how do you look at cleave damage on wartide again 💀
yeah just double checked, mk2 evis on the bp calculator only displays one target
acoustic dune
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
fleet zealot
i thought wartide had a way to look at cleave damage distribution
fleet zealot
oh just no fuckin
hard nexus
i thought wartide had a way to look at cleave damage distribution
it’s bugged with mk2/3 evis
frozen kernel
Does the inspect screen not properly show empowered stats?
Just whatever the weapon originally had
fleet zealot
I Dont care about the fuckin inspect screen im not opening darktide to mess with psykanium and evi
frozen kernel
Well I wasn’t asking for u, stinky ass
lunar fable
fleet zealot
yea
acoustic dune
fleet zealot
i just tested it
frozen kernel
That’s enough outta you
lunar fable
fleet zealot
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1287300193456361504/m...
we used to beat people with hammers for posting like that
lunar fable
Sleeb time
fleet zealot
🔨
lunar fable
lusty oar
🫃
acoustic dune
NO
NO NOT MALE PREGNANCY
o wow they building a space station
in
helldiver
the 2
hard nexus
how do you look at cleave damage on wartide again 💀
here, found this video from path, just is an example of how bad the cleave is
hard nexus
huh
hard nexus
touch tips
you mean like sword clash?
fleet zealot
here, found this video from path, just is an example of how bad the cleave is
not h1 QQ'ing obv
hard nexus
if so there is an actual answer
acoustic dune
you mean like sword clash?
no like in a sword fight
hard nexus
yes
hard nexus
no like in a sword fight
like when the blades hit each other
you’re asking what happens
lusty oar
no like in a sword fight
hard nexus
also that yes
its answered in gaunts ghosts, he says something along the lines of chainsword dueling combat being very unique due to the force of the chains hitting each other causing a degree of randomness to the duels
and that it can throw the blades around when it happens
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/clash-swords-echos-king-of-disappointment-song-sword-figh...
more like rapier vs rapier thrust type clash
hard nexus
not h1 QQ'ing obv
ah yes of course
lusty oar
more like rapier vs rapier thrust type clash
oh like chainsword docking
meager turret
They do not know
fleet zealot
its answered in gaunts ghosts, he says something along the lines of chainsword d...
both blades kickback and kill their user
fleet zealot
actually i know people give 40k shit
cause chainsaws in our reality would suck ass for fighting even with safety features turned off/not installed
acoustic dune
actually i know people give 40k shit
40k shit
fleet zealot
they are made for wood
acoustic dune
dats alot of shit
fleet zealot
but in the 40k universe, it would be safe to say the chain weapons would function differently
despite having similar appearance to our chainsaws
they would be built for anti armor/anti flesh use but would prob suck trying to cut a tree with
well, they would suck against trees, the casing would stop you from cutting deeper
acoustic dune
cause chainsaws in our reality would suck ass for fighting even with safety feat...
first you need a powerful but small engine for it to even work
like
hard nexus
cause chainsaws in our reality would suck ass for fighting even with safety feat...
yeah for many reasons the 40k chain weapons are pretty goofy, but one of the main outstanding reasons imo is how wide the metal surrounding the chain is compared to the chain itself, it’d make it a terrible cutting weapon
frozen kernel
They’d need so much torque to cut through the types of flesh, bone, and armor you see in 40k
copper hawk
<@576701404475949056> I slept, stinky boy
UR STINKY
acoustic dune
to cut wood alone
copper hawk
I just finished my run,,
acoustic dune
you gotta get a gouda engine
fleet zealot
gouda engine
ivory marlin
God i hope nothing bad happens to my chicken-
copper hawk
I shower,, when i get back,,
frozen kernel
Like a tree doesn’t really fight back. You can file that bitch in half if you’ve got long enough but flesh moves with the teeth
fleet zealot
copper hawk
he wants u so bad
He already has LAMIA-LOVER
frozen kernel
It’s actually what makes ceramic blades not cut flesh
acoustic dune
God i hope nothing bad happens to my chicken-
psycher chicken
hard nexus
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/cheesed-to-meet-you-gif-21409625
copper hawk
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Greeting . P00km31st3r
acoustic dune
And karnak se
god the karnak twin
copper hawk
Id kill rinda in a duel
acoustic dune
as i always say and will always say
ivory marlin
psycher chicken
Psyker chicken would be on the black strips instead of the black ships
copper hawk
If i got armor too id whoop her ass
acoustic dune
the tomboy and femboy duo that is the karnak twin
hard nexus
Greeting . P00km31st3r
hallo
acoustic dune
get me willy hard