zealot-class

[placid fiber]

Any of the dragon age games actually

[north sedge]

they're varying degrees of good

[placid fiber]

That type of game never really tripped my trigger

[fleet zealot]

i can never manage a second full playthrough and since dragon's keep isn't being used i kinda lost all feeling to do so

[north sedge]

i still think the first is the best written

[placid fiber]

Then again story based games aren't really my thing

[north sedge]

i think i did another playthrough later on when i got the tresspasser dlc or something

[south grove]

rolling steel comment on FS's twitter

[north sedge]

my hot take is the train is cool but i kinda wish the mission was 15min instead of 10

[placid fiber]

You mean you wish we had 15 minutes?

[south grove]

I think 10's good

perfect for teaching casuals to go faster

[placid fiber]

15 minutes would be great, with how many mid players there are

[north sedge]

no i mean i wish the mission was slightly longer

[placid fiber]

Ah

[fleet zealot]

like i'm not very sure on the length of DA:I exactly cause i don't count my hours per playthrough

but it feels longer than me3

[north sedge]

it is very long

[south grove]

so many people complaining about a singular sniper killing their whole team

[placid fiber]

Yeah, the short build up to an assassination boss that is really good at ledging you is... >.>

[south grove]

lmfao

[north sedge]

well, you also have alot more side stuff and the resource gathering

[south grove]

just throw a knife back

woe

[fleet zealot]

yea that's the one thing i like

[south grove]

knife upon ye

[fleet zealot]

you get a mount, then you can never use it

cause you need to be picking up resources

[placid fiber]

It felt so much like a docket farming type of mission

Oh wait

u were talking about DA

[north sedge]

yep

[fleet zealot]

issue with DA:O is that it's just dated

[north sedge]

it's still playable enough

[placid fiber]

I think that was the 1st one I tried

[fleet zealot]

should really be a contender for a update

[placid fiber]

It wasn't as dated back then, tho

[fleet zealot]

so is nwn1

[south grove]

BEST take ever

omg

as if guarding the objective isn't a core part of the game

[placid fiber]

Guarding the objective is like... in almost every fucking mission

Only it's a short minigame

[south grove]

yes and I want RED weapons and a band aid for my boo boo bc I finally managed to do the mission as the team dead weight

[north sedge]

we got red weapons! (the mastery skin)

[fleet zealot]

like, i think DA:O could really do with a

not a remaster but like

[placid fiber]

and yet... the thammer red skin sucks ass

[north sedge]

yea it does

[placid fiber]

a remake?

[fleet zealot]

a modern edition? just a version to make it run on modern systems better and polish out the UI and mechanics

[south grove]

no I want a SPECIAL reward for my boo boo and my mental trauma of being a bad player

you don't get it

[north sedge]

fair point

[fleet zealot]

i don't want it being changed, besides like, a bit upscaled graphics

[placid fiber]

I think that is a remaster

[fleet zealot]

ok remaster

[placid fiber]

mostly

[fleet zealot]

it is

[south grove]

I want fatshark to personally send me a custom weapon for me and me alone

[placid fiber]

Remake would be changing how the game plays as well as updating it

like the dead space 1 remake

[north sedge]

DA plays fine as it is

[south grove]

and a congratulation letter about how I am a good player for going 1km/hr on the mission

[placid fiber]

Still faster than a lot of randos...

[south grove]

LMFAO

[placid fiber]

No, you just need less dead weight

Like... I'm pretty slow, but, I kept pace on that mission the 1 time I did it

we still had like 2 or 3 minutes left

[south grove]

so many people calling it too hard/terrible because it's impossible

[placid fiber]

the boss's 1st shield break ledged 2 players as well lol

[south grove]

I finish 2-9 seconds off always but I get it done pretty consistently

[rotund shoal]

normal or histg

histg is basically impossible unless youve got a good team

[placid fiber]

histg on that mission sounds like: Premade or suffer

[south grove]

just HI

did it once with HISTG with a decent team

[dim zealot]

I did a HISTG with a pug on it a couple times

[placid fiber]

I want to play the mission more, but, I also don't want to hard carry randos

[dim zealot]

Mostly failures tho

[fleet zealot]

sorry im too much '99 kid

also it didn't work for me last time, alt tabbing and shit broke the game

[placid fiber]

So, like my Antax? :3

[dim zealot]

The time pressure is kinda fun, but the weird puzzles to break up the high intensity flow seem out of place

[north sedge]

i played it uhhh....several years ago and it was fine

[fleet zealot]

yea so did i

i beat it

all the dlc too

[ornate bone]

Charge they phone, eat hot chip and lie

[shy river]

DA origins is unfathomably based and spending just a little time to install QoL/fixes mods is well worth it

[ornate bone]

DA2 enjoyers

[placid fiber]

DA is in general a story game, right?

[ornate bone]

Yesn't

[south grove]

not 500

press x

[ornate bone]

It's a BioWare game, so you have an even split

[placid fiber]

Fine, I'll find something to x to cap it

Oh I know, my Vet's brauto if I haven't

oh wait I have a knife instead

[placid fiber]

Get redy, I'm gonna sho u my 60 ft axe

@south grove

[lusty oar]

owo

[south grove]

https://x.com/dailyogryn holy peak

Daily Ogryn (@dailyogryn) on X

The plus-size heroes of Atoma.

Twitter

they post ogryn drip daily

[opaque island]

this is a fresh wound for me, just played a mission where i couldnt do the auspex cause no one was covering me

people running off to the corners of the room

[placid fiber]

Yep: my 60 ft per hour axe

[south grove]

I think the doors are pretty clever nooptraps

they think shutting them stops the horde

it only shuts once and after that you can't shut it again

so later your team's all gonna die from snipers

[ornate bone]

Get wound curios then

[placid fiber]

That's why you bring the recon with your thammer

[opaque island]

I wanna know where all these heretics are coming from on the train, there cant be that many nooks and crannies

[north sedge]

the expansion was quite good too

[placid fiber]

Still... recon thammer Lazorr sounds insane

[south grove]

@zinc talon https://x.com/dailyogryn/status/1837607810772632013

Daily Ogryn (@dailyogryn) on X

#warhammer40k #darktide #ogryn

Twitter · Sep 21, 2024, 9:40 PM

this you lad?

[spare talon]

theres so many cousin okris

[lusty oar]

let’s go bowling

[south grove]

idk :P

brain no work

[placid fiber]

I found the tanner shotgun!

[south grove]

I have so many tanner items

I keep them for fun

[placid fiber]

I've seen so many tanner weapons lol

I keep trying to autocorrect tanner isn't thammer xD

[south grove]

peak

give us squats NOW

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/beagle-fat-cat-squat-cat-fitness-gif-19877500

[south grove]

wtf

[placid fiber]

Just take a fuckin recon, dude. lol

[golden rain]

Or just throw a knife at 'em

[placid fiber]

Yeah

but a recon at least fits zealot better than the goddamn lasgun

[delicate shadow]

Zealot has so many options for dealing with snipers lol

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[placid fiber]

Even the db can kill snipers lol

At least snipers aren't as bad as blightstormers were...

God I hate blightstormers...

They made the old hounds seem like a fair and balanced thing

[trail mantle]

wierdly shotguns are one of the easiest I find to deal with snipers

[placid fiber]

I wonder how good the accuracy is with the spread reduction on dodge talent

[amber igloo]

Shotguns have guarunteed number of pellets landing, at distance, run'n gun changes nothing for DB

if one pellet lands, a set number lands

[trail mantle]

yep

[fleet zealot]

don't they act like tf2 shotguns do with that one toggle on, where it's a fixed pattern?

[trail mantle]

it's basically a cone of damage most the time

[placid fiber]

Hey, Bandit, does the spread reduction on dodge talent work on the shotguns?

[south grove]

mod alert

hide the scriptures

we're finished

[trail mantle]

if something is in the retical and not blocked by stuff, it'll hit it

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-goldberg-you-you-netflix-you-on-netflix-penn-badgley-gif-13243399

[trail mantle]

it do, it's wierdly almost annoying tho

[fleet zealot]

no idea i never path there

[south grove]

"I'm vexed"

[placid fiber]

I always path there cause of twbs

[fleet zealot]

oh yea

[south grove]

"dr house you can't administer the medicine drug"

[fleet zealot]

i never notice

i may be stupid

[delicate shadow]

[placid fiber]

I always notice the effects on the autopistol and brauto

I've never used the shotgun on the zealot tho

[trail mantle]

it feels amazing on the bruato

[nimble fiber]

ok thrust actually feels pretty good on crusher

[placid fiber]

it's god-tier on the brauto and autopistol both

[trail mantle]

on shotties it makes you acutally have to aim it

[amber igloo]

thrust slaught crusher is the best zealot weapon now

the dmg it does is beyond insane

[placid fiber]

If you're gonna thrust just take the thammer lol

Still I can see breakpoints being hit with thrust on the crusher

[amber igloo]

breakpoints matter very little in this game

crusher will stagger everything

[placid fiber]

uhuh...

Sure...

[fleet zealot]

yee

[placid fiber]

Breakpoints mean very little... as a general statement...?

[amber igloo]

in darktide, yes

in vermintide they did

[fleet zealot]

i prefer scrusher+ slaught

[trail mantle]

same

[fleet zealot]

cause if i wanted thrust i'd use thammer

[amber igloo]

the sheer amount of enemies in DT makes em less important

[trail mantle]

i don't charge heavies enough on the crusher

[amber igloo]

that is not true

[fleet zealot]

also scrusher and thrust have anti synergy on crushers

[spare talon]

the slower the attack speed of your weapon, the more important they become

[amber igloo]

you ALWAYS get thrust1 with heavies, as it takes .5s to make a light go heavy

[fleet zealot]

ttk and BPs are still important

[amber igloo]

thats free 20% power always

[fleet zealot]

and scrusher is 80% damage

[amber igloo]

and you get thrust2 at .75s

basicly you can just play the crusher like club1, and have thrust2 heavies spamming

[trail mantle]

• scrusher boosts lights

[amber igloo]

obliterating everything while also staggering

[spare talon]

the difference between 1 extra heavy with a knife/duelling sword is inconsequential compared to 1 extra heavy with an evis or thammer

[trail mantle]

which I alterante with heavies for clear, or single target

[fleet zealot]

tbf, 1 tap dsword is amazing

thrust is not a bad blessing by any means

[placid fiber]

Even 1 extra heavy on the rashad means something

[fleet zealot]

if you run it

good for u

[trail mantle]

yep

scrusher, sluaght and thrust are all amazing on it

[spare talon]

oh rashad is absolutely a weapon that lives and dies on breakpoints

[placid fiber]

Yep

[spare talon]

if you cannot one shot a bruiser innately, the weapon is drastically worse

[rotund shoal]

at least it used to before everyone got a perefect 380

[placid fiber]

Don't meet the breakpoint? U die on the hill

[rotund shoal]

now im not special anymore

[fleet zealot]

but like, as shown in gameplay help a night or so ago, unless you have a teammate helping you, you can't use both thrust and scrusher to max potential on say a crusher (Enemy)

[placid fiber]

Yeah, I've been running 25% flak and unarmored on mine

[amber igloo]

rashad will oneshot bruiser no matter what with martyr, with momentum, you do need that 25% unarmored

[rotund shoal]

yes but martyr is shit

no dodge

[amber igloo]

don't need to dodge dead enemies

[rotund shoal]

martyr means "i dont have the brs to pick ij"

[placid fiber]

but... it takes more points to get marty than it does for IJ...

[amber igloo]

I do agree tho, martyr in general is pretty shit

[rotund shoal]

nobody said anything about nodes

i was talking about breakpoints

[amber igloo]

in a world where dreg ragers are the scariest enemies, martyr is a risk

[placid fiber]

I blame the fact I've been up for the past... 14 hours...

[spare talon]

@obsidian prairie

safe rooms

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-majin-vegeta-dragon-ball-legends-dragon-dragon-ball-z-gif-16608221371907468706

[placid fiber]

Even tho I have an autopistol for my marty build, I honestly melee ragers a lot...

[amber igloo]

depends on your melee, they are fine with rashad, death sentence with hammer

[placid fiber]

Well yeah

Thammer is rough against ragers

[amber igloo]

and I wouldnt run martyr with anythign else so...

[delicate shadow]

Martyr is literally unkillable unless you just eat shit 24/7 for no reason

[spare talon]

i run a brauto with thammer basically as an anti ranger device

[trail mantle]

running ragers shit with the claw is so much fun tho

[placid fiber]

brauto is definitely vastly better against scab ragers

[spare talon]

say hello to a random assail hitting the tank of a flamer next to you!!!

[amber igloo]

yea brauto is prolly your best bet, but DB is more fun

[obsidian prairie]

Watching you continue to lose your shit is great

[delicate shadow]

Skissue!!!

[fleet zealot]

i swear they made assail do it on purpose

[spare talon]

ITS JUST PERSONA
THEYRE ADVERTISING IT AT SOMETHING ELSE
BUT ITS NOT
ITS JUST PERSONA

[placid fiber]

Still, the extra time to pull the brauto out compared to the autopistol is noticeable against surprise trappers when ur on -5 dodges

[trail mantle]

what game is it?

[amber igloo]

I might try that, haven't used shredder since the great pinning fire butchering

[placid fiber]

Don't

[amber igloo]

still dog huh

[placid fiber]

Unless you have inspiring barrage you're fucking yourself fully

[amber igloo]

I just have the DB with martyr hammer

but mostly because its fun af

[placid fiber]

Literally the only thing that makes the autopistol salvagable as a ranged...

[spare talon]

metaphor refantazio
atlus game that comes out in like a week (this is the demo)
same team at atlus that made persona 3-5

[amber igloo]

and it also kills maniac rather well

[placid fiber]

Autopistol is great vs maniacs yeah

[trail mantle]

so it's just fantasy persona?

[placid fiber]

It is the worst ranged weapon on zealot

[amber igloo]

I meant the double barrel

[placid fiber]

both be tru

I will actively argue against taking the autopistol tho

Even tho I use it on marty

[spare talon]

this is literally persona, but fantasy, racist, and has some systems from smt

[placid fiber]

Unless you have a melee that covers everything, you will get fucked over with taking the autopistol

[obsidian prairie]

WHY does this game start with a regicide into a fourth wall break within 3 minutes

[amber igloo]

I mean as fun as thunder hammer is now, it's still only shines vs monsters

[placid fiber]

and crushers

[amber igloo]

the pisslow maniac dmg makes it struggle vs mixed hordes

pff

anything with uncanny murders crushers

[placid fiber]

Yeah, but, funny crusher 1 shot

[spare talon]

(im not joking about the racist part thats literally a major plot point, in the index for one of the "tribes" the associated image is a person from that tribe being hanged in one of the cutscenes 5 minutes into the game)

[placid fiber]

I tried the ironhelm for 1 heresy round and it felt vastly worse than the crucis to me lol

[trail mantle]

holy shit

[obsidian prairie]

The first five seconds are a dude passing a purse and going "God likes generous people" and then someone kicking a beggar in the chest

[amber igloo]

I will never tailor my build over crushers, they pose little to no threat 90% of time

[obsidian prairie]

I think they don't like rich people

[placid fiber]

I don't tailor my build for it, but, I do take 10% elites with 25% unyielding

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/kang-the-conqueror-kang-variants-many-kangs-multiple-kangs-kangs-cheering-gif-13082239200333412930

CATBOY AND CATGIRL RACISM IS REAL

[amber igloo]

and for civi, I take crusher over hammer any given day

[placid fiber]

I mean crusher is great, I just love the crucis

[amber igloo]

fair enough

[placid fiber]

Crucis has been my prefered thammer the whole time

[rotund shoal]

go dclaw brauto then

see what happens

[amber igloo]

you do know, parry kills crushers right?

[rotund shoal]

parry kills one crusher with fotf

[fleet zealot]

if you spend your ability

[rotund shoal]

not 5 crushers

[amber igloo]

so you parry 5 times

ot 10

or*

[rotund shoal]

do u have 5 fotfs

u dont

[amber igloo]

doesnt matter

[fleet zealot]

tbf

[rotund shoal]

so what are you blabbing about

[fleet zealot]

10 second cd now

[spare talon]

the main character is part of the tribe that has no defining characteristics
looks the most defining out of all of them
yeah ok sure game

[fleet zealot]

repeated phrase

[placid fiber]

Depends on how much time you are talking about between the crushers. A few minutes? Yes. A few seconds/moments? No

[fleet zealot]

bps don't matter 🫡 limited ability use? doesn't matter 🫡

[amber igloo]

you can get back your ulti in literal seconds now with the new node

[placid fiber]

Know what does matter? Dat extra 0.03 sprint speed from 20% more mobility -tanner probably...

[amber igloo]

I mean, I just convey my experience, if you guys have different ones, that is fine too

[placid fiber]

Hey, you do you

[amber igloo]

the game is too easy to hang up on minmaxing

[placid fiber]

The autopistol works for me and my marty build due to my playstyle

It won't work for most people tho

[rotund shoal]

solo an auric with dclaw brauto

post the vid

i will believe you then

until then i dont

[red mesa]

whats good on the crusher now? any of the new blessings, opportunist or thrust maybe worth it? or just slaughterer + skullcrusher

[pale spindle]

tbf u can solo on this game with any weapon at grey rarity

if you are good enough

[rotund shoal]

maybe someone can but 99.9% percent of players cant

[amber igloo]

I never understood the solo runners in a co-op game, not my cup of tea, also you can believe what you want, you are entirely free to do so 🙂

[placid fiber]

minmaxing for auric/maelstrom? Does kinda matter. minmaxing for regular damnation and below...? Not really

[spare talon]

the latter

[obsidian prairie]

Oh my fucking god is the creature in my purse going to tell me to go to sleep in a second Atlus game

[pale spindle]

but like why are you saying "its just my experience" like an anecdotal statement when people criticize you but then go full on "objective analysis" when you criticize others? 💀

[trail mantle]

holy shit he went flying

[placid fiber]

@spare talon Does opportunist even do anything noticeable?

[amber igloo]

@placid fiber when you've played the game as long as I have, it's not that important

[obtuse jolt]

Which is the better dump stat on evis? Mobil or cleave?

[placid fiber]

I mean I have 1.7k hours in the game, which is why I'm agreeing with you

[trail mantle]

opportunist is good on a couple of the ogryn weapons that have it not sure about anything else

[spare talon]

mobility on mk3
cleave on mk15

[amber igloo]

@placid fiber for new players, sure go with the meta, after a while tho, anything goes really

[pale spindle]

wait, you can get slaughterer on crusher now????

[trail mantle]

and thrust

[spare talon]

yes

[pale spindle]

🏃🏻

nuff said fam

[spare talon]

but imo slaught skullcrusher is better than either of them with thrust

[placid fiber]

Yep, when you can autopistol rashad or heavy sword brauto(shroudfield) you can do anything lol

[trail mantle]

been my experience as well

[placid fiber]

Yep, just like you can inspiring barrage up ur brauto

[amber igloo]

Funnily enough ii_dollar was doing the dclaw build mentioned here earlier, and he was doing just fine 🙂

[trail mantle]

my attack patterns on it favor having the boost from scrusher over a thrust boost

[rotund shoal]

you can do just fine with dclaw brauto ive ran it many times but your entire team goes down

and u get bumrushed by 5 crushers

and some ragers

what do

[placid fiber]

Honestly, imo, thrust is more of a thammer/pickaxe/ogryn shovel thing

[amber igloo]

tell em to pick 4 zealots duh, than no one should die

[pale spindle]

whats the dump stat for crusher?

[red mesa]

@spare talon have you noticed weapons stat maxes changing as you empower/upgrade a weapon?

[amber igloo]

defense

[placid fiber]

defenses

[trail mantle]

power output afaik, uses a lot of push attacks so defense is actually decent on it, but either one should be fine

[pale spindle]

isn't oppertunist better tho? 🤔

[spare talon]

yes, it is a visual bug with how it was initially displayed

the stats they were changed to are the real ones unfortunately

[placid fiber]

better than power on kill and up to 80% bonus damage...?

[amber igloo]

@placid fiber don't diss it without trying, like I said, you ALWAYS get thrust1, and thrust2 is only 0.25s longer, what is as much power as a fully stacked slaughterer

[pale spindle]

yes

[placid fiber]

Yeah, those suck

[amber igloo]

its not 80% either

it works like crit dmg

[red mesa]

@spare talon example:
I rolled a white weapon with perfect 80's and 60 defense dump.
by the time I max empowered it and upgraded - it had fallen to 59% max defense and 77% first target down from 60 and 80.

so the lower stats were the real stats all along? so frustrating lol

[amber igloo]

we just don't know the part it amps

[placid fiber]

I mean you do you, it's just if I'm gonna learn the crusher I'm gonna take the blessings that will suit me better

[amber igloo]

skullcrusher is NOT a flat 80% amp

[placid fiber]

I know

[fleet zealot]

up to

[amber igloo]

no

it works like crit dmg

it only amps a certain amount of dmg

part*

[ornate bone]

wait how

[amber igloo]

you not gonna tell me you believe fatshark descriptions right?

[red mesa]

flak maniac on crusher, or carapace or unyielding worth it?

[fleet zealot]

you think we do?

[spare talon]

i will mathematically prove to you that it is a flat debuff

[placid fiber]

I'm not going off of fatshark's shit, I'm going off of what the people who use the blessings are saying

[fleet zealot]

fatshark's description is innaccurate by being vague asf anyways

skullcrusher stacks up to 8 stacks

[light badge]

I have a shitpost to make and I need a suitable candidate

Post fashion immediately

[ornate bone]

no

you can't make me

nerd

[amber igloo]

its 4 stacks times two

its 40-80%

[placid fiber]

I could care less what description fatshark gives it, the people who use the things and know what they are saying are what I'm gonna go off of

[light badge]

Please?

[ornate bone]

ugh fiiiiiiiine

[light badge]

Thanks :)

[placid fiber]

I know that fatshark's description of inspiring barrage isn't accurate to how it works. It should only gives 80% toughness in a whole mag... it gives 100% in just under 1 full mag

at t4

[amber igloo]

it is a flat amp, I was wrong

[spare talon]

in this clip, i hit him for 204 on a light atack with no buffs or debuffs
i stagger him, and he has 8 stacks of skullcrusher (ive noticed that activated crusher attacks are weird and seemingly count as 2 attacks, resulting in 2 instances of stacks being applied), then him him with another light, increasing the damage to 371
204 * 1.8 is 367.2
the last 4 damage is coming from the 1 stack of momentum, which if we multiply 367.2 by 1.01, that results in 370.872, which rounds to 371

[spare talon]

and i just finished typing it

[amber igloo]

but it only works on humans

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-people-gif-25984064

[placid fiber]

Can you get skullcrusher stacks by special hitting a crusher?

[light badge]

Hol up how do you preview the win poses on other classes that's rad as hell

[amber igloo]

also, if you put the red skin on 3b, first 2 lights become completely horizontal, never noticed that

[ornate bone]

I don't

it's my psyker with the psyker pose

[light badge]

I ask because I NEED to see Ogryn quelling if it's possible

[light badge]

Ah

[spare talon]

no it works on everything, even bosses

[light badge]

I saw the goggles

[ornate bone]

I just happen to look absolutely fucking rad as fuck

[light badge]

And thought it was a zealot

lol

[fleet zealot]

what's the hard counter to hiccups

[placid fiber]

average taxe user

[ornate bone]

BOO

[light badge]

You do look rad as fuck tho

[ornate bone]

get scared

hiccups cured

[amber igloo]

no, oggys and monsters reset stagger quicker than you can rehit

[ornate bone]

you're welcome

[tidal berry]

holy strawman lmao

[fleet zealot]

only if you use thrust to max stacks

[light badge]

Try to crack your spine over the back of a chair

[placid fiber]

@amber igloo They are literally getting skullcrusher stacks on this crusher...

[light badge]

Stretch and hold that pose

[spare talon]

i have have personal experience using a skullcrusher shovel on vet with voc and kraks, and the stagger has resulted in massive damage, even more so if the team was ganging up on them

[rotund shoal]

its cause we were talking about not needing to handle crushers

[amber igloo]

I mean hitting the crusher with a 3b as we speak

am*

[rotund shoal]

i was using reductio ad absurdum so to speak

[placid fiber]

They literally have a video proving skullcrusher works on crushers that they already posted lol

[spare talon]

here is me 2 shotting a crusher with the crusher due to skullcrusher

[merry flume]

my drip goes hard...

[rotund shoal]

if you cant handle crushers your team has to handle crushers

[fleet zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x-jhFVYlsQ

[spare talon]

take a shot every time i say crusher

you will die

[fleet zealot]

3b isn't crusher no?

that's oggy club

[spare talon]

indignatus mk4e crusher

[placid fiber]

3b was the basher iirc

idk what it is now

they changed the names of stuff lol

[spare talon]

3b is the basher yes

[placid fiber]

basher was my favorite oggy weapon when it was released

[rotund shoal]

i also just hate in general the "this game is too easy" messages.. the game is not too easy. the game is too easy when soloing with grey weapons is easy. it is not. its pretty hard. claiming the game is easy just seems like needless unwarranted bragging.

[spare talon]

this is why you should just call things by their most defining part of their name lmao

and not just marks lmao

or their manufacturer name

[placid fiber]

I mean when you get good enough regular damnation becomes a lot more chill

but yeah

[rotund shoal]

thats cause regular damnation is chill

[amber igloo]

with empower you can stagger oggies long enough indeed

[merry flume]

yeah i hate ego players that are too washed to play pvp so they just sit in co-op games and flaunt individual skill instead of teamwork

[rotund shoal]

i mean histg

[amber igloo]

I don't really use empower ever really, only vs bulwark shields

[spare talon]

hi meeeee omg thats meee thats so me

[fleet zealot]

it is too easy imo but not for grey weapon reasons

[modern lintel]

iv i want pvp i have hunt showdown or the forsaken warthunder

[fleet zealot]

there is just a massive power gap between even mid/good weapons and SSS tier meta

[rotund shoal]

yes its too easy cuz certain builds break the game

[merry flume]

hunt showdown is actually super fun

[rotund shoal]

playing the game, actually engaging with the mechanics, is difficult

[amber igloo]

not when you can just bypass em

[modern lintel]

untill you hit 6 star

[spare talon]

im not a fan
mostly cuz i suck at pvp games

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile I just hate pvp in general lol

that "rewarding" feeling of winning pvp/killing players just... isn't there for me

[trail mantle]

if hunt showdown was like either pve only or opt in pvp i'd play the shit out of it

[modern lintel]

i used to fiend over dayZ then i found inner peace (lies)

[trail mantle]

see it is there for me, I just get angry or salty or w/e and I don't like that

[tidal berry]

nah what you said is a wild strawman, you can run d.claw/brauto and still handle crushers fine. Vet has kraks, can also just magdump them with onslaught. Zealot has on demand %100 rending, both classes can parry. Psyker can pop brain, red stims exist etc etc..

[open pollen]

Does the Dueling Saber obliterate Cara and Unyielding?

[rotund shoal]

zealot has 2 charges of fotf. crushers groups spawn in 4-6

[urban scroll]

still hold true?

[rotund shoal]

what do

[modern lintel]

basically if it exist saber mulches it

[placid fiber]

For consistency? Yes

[rotund shoal]

also u can only one shot crushers with a very specific setup with fotf and parry

and u need to hit the 300ms parry window

(with ping)

[urban scroll]

ok thank you!

[tidal berry]

cool, you still do like 500 dps doing nothing but idly bashing at them, and you play a game with 3 other players.

[placid fiber]

So what you're saying is... I have like... 122ms to hit it with 178ms ping...?

[amber igloo]

well I've just put skullcrusher on my crusher, you can't put oggies into stagger long enough, not even with empower

[rotund shoal]

much less than 500dps but still

[amber igloo]

you killed it with the ulti, not the skullcrusher amp

[open pollen]

Yeah, that clocks.

I'm only disappointed that FS keeps making "Unwieldy and Powerful" weapons but forgets the "Powerful" and instead of adding it back later, just removes the unwieldy.

[rotund shoal]

yes you can rely on your teammates, its a team game, but i play 95% pubs and generally half the time my team is not very good and i have to duo or solo

[placid fiber]

the skullcrusher was amping the chastise hit

[rotund shoal]

which means builds have to build around the fact that i might be alone for a lot a significant part of the match

[amber igloo]

don't think it have

I do 1800 with slaught5, so you prolly have carapace on it

[south grove]

got res'd in fire by a 5 wound psyker today

[placid fiber]

@spare talon Do you have carapace on your crusher?

[south grove]

not fun

[amber igloo]

1720 without slaught stacks just with ulti

[south grove]

is there a reason why psykers need more than 2 wounds

[modern lintel]

the weakest is def the mk5 tho still a very good weapon

[south grove]

all 3 curios went to wounds

[broken walrus]

suicide bomber build

[rotund shoal]

honestly i have no clue how it works

[merry flume]

you don't have what it takes to be an ego player

[rotund shoal]

ping affects stuff in weird ways

[merry flume]

you can admit when you're wrong

[placid fiber]

^

[merry flume]

nothing more cringe than a person who can't admit being wrong

[rotund shoal]

with high ping i cant hit the parry window at all but i dont know if that just skill issue or actual serverside mechanics

[spare talon]

actually im never wrong

[final belfry]

each additional wound is 1 less time you have to pick them up again

[merry flume]

you got what it takes

[chilly kiln]

What blessings for dueling sword precog and uncanny?

[merry flume]

DS does not need uncanny lmao

[placid fiber]

I mean even tho I tell you why the stuff I use works for me, I'm willing to admit it won't work for most or a lot of people

[modern lintel]

mk5 does me thinks

[merry flume]

i like the ds that uses thrusts and slashes

[amber igloo]

oh I see what happened, the ulti staggered the crusher proccing skullcrusher

[placid fiber]

but... I want that sweet sweet 1.1k damage to crushers on a heavy...

[modern lintel]

the mk2

[amber igloo]

I don't know man

[merry flume]

the deleter

[fleet zealot]

it uses it better than knife

[modern lintel]

the mk5 is only heavy slashes mk2 slash and stab mk4 only stab

[fleet zealot]

for the sheer purpose of monstro damage, yea thrust precog is better

[chilly kiln]

But what if even bigger number

okay so thrust precog is the way to go?

[merry flume]

yeah but even without it, DS oneshots almost anything in the game that's not a crusher lmao

[fleet zealot]

but uncanny is actually pretty signicant vs carapace on heavies

[amber igloo]

but, apparently they still haven't fixed fotf with thrust bug

[placid fiber]

Now that the mk2 has a stab heavy1(a fucking useful heavy) I honestly like it

[fleet zealot]

and flak on lights

[merry flume]

i like thrust precog

[fleet zealot]

only on certain weapons now, and ds4 isn't one of them cause cole uses it

[merry flume]

thrust on DS is just

[fleet zealot]

if you ever plan to horde clear vs bruisers/21st, i recomnend uncanny wholeheartedly

[modern lintel]

lowkey fw the new agile blessing

[merry flume]

mutants just aren't a threat anymore

[fleet zealot]

basically doubles your damage

[merry flume]

agile goes hard

[amber igloo]

it doesn't work with crusher, you have to ulti first before thrusting like hammer @fleet zealot

[red mesa]

what guns you guys like pairing with hammer these days other than flamer

[amber igloo]

makes me wonder, is it still the same on the hamemr

[merry flume]

agri brauto

[fleet zealot]

brauto

[placid fiber]

sometimes autopistol(I don't recommend it, tho)

[amber igloo]

nop, hammer you can thrust ulti

[placid fiber]

brauto would be much better than the autopistol

and not by a small amount

[amber igloo]

crusher, you have to ulti thrust

[trail herald]

Shred/rampage for the mk15 right?

[placid fiber]

The biggest things the autopistol does better than the brauto is pull time in the middle of a horde and kill maniacs faster

[amber igloo]

depends on the keystone

[fleet zealot]

yea but autopistol isn't space rambo

[amber igloo]

shred perfect strike for piety

shred wrath for momentum

[fleet zealot]

it's more like, space tony bologna

[placid fiber]

The autopistol's effectiveness is why I actively promote against using it

[amber igloo]

dude, all this talking, imma roll one rn lel

[trail herald]

I have a bolt pistol for carapace

[amber igloo]

its not for carapace, its for mixed hordes

[trail herald]

Ah

[placid fiber]

What I've found on the autopistol is: inspiring barrage and pinning fire/blaze away with flakiac

[amber igloo]

cleaving thru everythign with 60% crit is just super comfy

[trail herald]

I just run flak maniac lmao

[tidal berry]

wildly silly argument at this point but there you go I guess

[amber igloo]

yea I like the sound of inspiring with hammer

just in case I need toughness NOW

[placid fiber]

but the brauto can have inspiring now

[amber igloo]

I have the 4% ranged node with double barrel

for emergency

you can just cleave the horde with for toughness

[placid fiber]

inspiring barrage is just a free way for 100% toughness back

[rotund shoal]

huh ok wasnt aware u can 500dps with dclaw on crusher

[amber igloo]

ye, I used to run it on flamer before everlasting

[rotund shoal]

with no rending

but still thats 8s per crusher.. or a full minute to kill a crusher pack with no other enemies

[placid fiber]

Just remember: Your melee must be able to kill everything

[rotund shoal]

solo in histg thats basically asking for director to spawn a bunch of specials

presumably that was all weakspot hits as well

[pale spindle]

new meta build everyone https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ce25c43-a636-4463-b1bc-dfab68cf8a66/max-impact?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[tidal berry]

Its dumb to build a d.claw for ''armor killing'' but talents enable silly things in this game and a zealot can crit almost every hit with some luck

[red mesa]

ya, i do love me a good space ak.
death spitter fire frenzy?

[trail herald]

I love a evis charged heavy in a crushers head

[red mesa]

ah inspiriing is cool too i see people mentioning

i didnt know it got that w/ update neat

[placid fiber]

honestly any of the chain weapons with chastise after the initial hit into saw are goated

[amber igloo]

@placid fiber rigth where a zealot should be 🙂

[placid fiber]

Tru

[amber igloo]

holy lol, the red shredder skin looks goofy

[placid fiber]

Inspiring barrage with a 170+ toughness build is goated

[rotund shoal]

i think dclaw max crit is near 85% iirc

[placid fiber]

Yeah I use one of the premium skins on the shredder

[rotund shoal]

5% (base) + 30% scourge + 20% shred + 25% piety = 80% and i think im missing something

[placid fiber]

@amber igloo Oh and: Shredder is absolute trash against bon bons

[rotund shoal]

theres also a 5% crit node in zealot tree i think?

[merry flume]

p much but i might start using insp

[amber igloo]

the fk are bon bons

[placid fiber]

Beast of nurgles

[south grove]

finished the game and I clutched

[amber igloo]

who cares, I have a hammer

[south grove]

this guy blamed the zealot who's an average player

[amber igloo]

the only thing I need my gun to do with hammer, is deal with dreg ragers

[south grove]

bc zealot had a health pack he could've save him with

tf you mean you have 5 wounds already

shouldn't you be unkillable?

[rotund shoal]

nah probably just thinking of perk

[south grove]

at least that's your logic as a smyker

[placid fiber]

a woundker with the no blow up on perils of the warp is at least useful-ish

On oggy or vet...? Dumpster fire

Literally a trap

made by fatshark... who likes noobtrapping...

[red mesa]

FF > deathspitter right?

[rough light]

I’ve invested so much Into martyrdom only to realize you are stuck on 6 wound on damnation no matter what

[merry flume]

whatever one stacks ye

[placid fiber]

Deathspitter is power that isn't affected by range

[placid fiber]

both stack

ff is damage that is affected by range iirc

[tidal berry]

yeah even with that it has terrible armor damage but throw some bleeds in and some of those worst case scenarios are suddenly a lot more bearable

[rotund shoal]

its what i use. it slaps so hard. space kalashnikov best gun

ff + deathspiter i mean

[placid fiber]

ff + deathspitter is goated

I just find a defensive blessing more useful for me and my playstyle than a 2nd damage blessing for my brauto

[rotund shoal]

bleeds only work on crushers if you have rending

[red mesa]

was gonna try inspiring to see how it feels but ya double dmg might just be best

[rotund shoal]

otherwise they do scratch damage

[placid fiber]

Inspiring is a free 100% toughness

double damage is the meta

inspiring is not what I would advise, even tho I have it on my brautos

[light badge]

dclaw dumpstat?

[amber igloo]

wait what, rclicking DB is more than double dmg, I never even bothered to check

[rotund shoal]

mobility

[placid fiber]

mobility

[rocky nacelle]

mobi

just get every dclaw stat >70s

[placid fiber]

I mean... >.>

[prisma violet]

Knife or thunderhammer?

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-just-a-little-trolling-we-do-a-little-trolling-skill-difference-skill-level-gif-22312836

[amber igloo]

I mean why would I, 2 barrels hits twice as hard as 1 no?

[placid fiber]

Yes

[amber igloo]

NO!

[tidal berry]

this is like the old recon infernus discussion

[amber igloo]

just fatshark things

[tidal berry]

dclaw vs carapace is bad enough that you'll feel the bleed difference

[placid fiber]

I've almost always used both barrels and the right click shot with it lol

[south grove]

dclaw

[amber igloo]

well I can almost get l-click to kill dreg ragers, sadge

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1283144548893069384/1290494643753975818/attachment.gif

[amber igloo]

it can point blank

[rotund shoal]

sure i guess.. i dunno i think we derailed a bit

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[rotund shoal]

dclaw anti armor literally makes no sense anyway

[opaque island]

only true zealot heads will get this right
What is the worthiest of goals?
A. Redemption
B. Faith
C. Atonement
D. Skulls for the golden throne.

[trail herald]

D

[placid fiber]

dclaw anti armor is like heavy sword anti armor lol

[amber igloo]

heavy sword actually kills armor with crits

[spare talon]

option E

which is

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-cat-alien-dance-gif-702725459712104069

[placid fiber]

no no, u had it rite da first time

😉

[south grove]

hawk tuah

[amber igloo]

I've used it before this patch even

piety heavy sword with bleeding bolt pistol for force crits on crushers

[opaque island]

please, god no dont let this brain worm in

[tidal berry]

I think the new crit blessing has potential but I'm told its bugged

[amber igloo]

its not the best, but its perfectly doable

[placid fiber]

My clutch build was heavy sword brauto with shroudfield, so I learned how to heavy sword crushers lol

[trail herald]

I have been playing with chastise evis mk 15 since launch and idk if that will change lmao

[amber igloo]

@tidal berry the TDR one, I was running it with tac2, musta been placebo

?

[trail herald]

All these new builds

Chainsaw go brrrrr

[placid fiber]

Still is better than a lascerate knife without uncanny lol

[amber igloo]

nah fam

knife needs no uncanny

just crits

[placid fiber]

but the less than 0.3s ttk on crushers...

[amber igloo]

you can pull 800 DPS with flash tearer + riposte

[placid fiber]

or w/e it is

[amber igloo]

flash tearer riposte momentum will net you around 50% crit overall

[tidal berry]

what do ppl run on bleed boltpistol? (as in second blessing) I'm kinda tempted to try this exact same thing on veteran, I want bleeds to amp up boss and carapace damage a bit

[placid fiber]

cause iirc they said 2s was really slow for the knife against crushers

[amber igloo]

and kills crushers just fine

[south grove]

holy peak

[trail herald]

Hipfire for me

[south grove]

they should bring back the SoH scheme

[amber igloo]

@tidal berry I would not do bleed on vet tbh, just surgical + crit dmg

on zealot I have surgical + bleed

[placid fiber]

the 10% bleed damage is tickling them lol

[spare talon]

the bleed needs uncanny to actually be worth a damn against anything that justifies the dot
otherwise most of your damage is going from the direct knife damage, which you could always just make better with other blessings

[amber igloo]

like I said, 800 dps without uncanny

its perfectly suitable

[tidal berry]

I've been doing this, it works pretty well for the most part. Though I miss the days of onslaught ticking off of bleeds on vet lol

[rocky nacelle]

uncanny/precog

or broke

[tidal berry]

ever since that nerf serrated has been pretty pointless too

[amber igloo]

yea bleed is more of a zealot thing

[spare talon]

on what exactly

[amber igloo]

smelly vets are just wannabe zealots

crusher

[south grove]

holy peak

[placid fiber]

800dps is like 3s to kill a crusher

[amber igloo]

and?

its not like he can hit you

[spare talon]

other blessings can kill them faster

[amber igloo]

most certainly

[placid fiber]

@spare talon How slow is 3s ttk on crusher with knife?

[amber igloo]

do I care about crusher TTK tho? not a whole lot

[spare talon]

and the bleed is NOT doing 800 dps alone

[amber igloo]

I notice almost every pug having carapace on their weapons, I don't have it on a single one literally

[rotund shoal]

its 4.5 seconds

[placid fiber]

I mean the ttk on everything that isn't unarmored or infested is reduced

[rotund shoal]

cuz 3600hp

[rocky nacelle]

a 2 shot or probably almost a 1 shot duelist/precog

[ornate bone]

bro found gfuel in the heretics

[rocky nacelle]

you can probably 1 shot with duelist/precog/chastise mk3

[paper harness]

good

[amber igloo]

@placid fiber I'm not saying uncanny is not the optimal pick, I'm saying I wanted 50% CC for flash tearer to worth over lacerate with momentum on knife, so I had to go riposte

and it kills crushers just fine still

[rotund shoal]

lacerate is for horde clear not dps

[placid fiber]

I was making fun of lascerate being used on the knife

[rotund shoal]

it literally doubles your horde clear on knife

try it in psykh

[amber igloo]

well I do have lacerate on my psyker knife, but its only for monster dmg

[rotund shoal]

that as well

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-yucky-yummers-homelander-homelander-yucky-gif-2160587119327000974

[amber igloo]

it doesnt really

[spare talon]

yknow what septuples your horde clear with knife
putting it away and pulling out your flamer

[placid fiber]

I mean I use uncanny lascerate, but, that's because I don't knife and my poor aim misses heads a lot

[rocky nacelle]

using a bolter

[rotund shoal]

but then i dont get to use my beautiful space ak

[amber igloo]

I never used mk3, never will, I don't light spam hordes with mk6

heavy will oneshot chaff on mk6

bleed is mainly for oggies

[spare talon]

i am actually disappointed with mk6s cleave damage on heavies

[amber igloo]

wdym, it can hit 5

[rocky nacelle]

peril cleave talent

my beloved

[spare talon]

crit headshots will only kill the first thing in a swing

[placid fiber]

wow that cleave damage is sadge

[spare talon]

with fleshtearer, the bleed will likely finish off the second target, but thats about it

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-officer-k-gif-3677116963982259370

[amber igloo]

well mate, I just killed 4 with 1 swing

right now

flash tearer kills em all

but you can only hit 4, not 5 mb

[paper harness]

Me doing a horde faster with mk3

[placid fiber]

mk3 is something I won't use past malice

[amber igloo]

the beauty of the game, many solutions for the same problem 🙂

[placid fiber]

Preferably not past uprising actually

[amber igloo]

mk6 is just flat out superior for me

but that's just my playstyle

[rocky nacelle]

me doing it faster with a flamer

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[spare talon]

i just feel its a waste to build such an insanely powerful finesse weapon around not that

[paper harness]

Kill all ranged weapons

[placid fiber]

Is the mk3 allowing for more skilled useage and the mk6 just easier to use in general? @spare talon

[rotund shoal]

but then it handles everything

[rocky nacelle]

vermintide 3

[placid fiber]

For the knife

[paper harness]

“People” often do

[spare talon]

YOU HAVE A GUN SLOT

[paper harness]

By that I mean YouTubers

[rotund shoal]

SO WHAT

[amber igloo]

@placid fiber how is light spam more skilled usage tho?

[rotund shoal]

my gun is a knife that works at long ranges

[amber igloo]

cuz thats the only thing you can do with mk3, light spam or pushattack heavy

[placid fiber]

I don't know how people use the mk3 in a good way, I was literally asking Cole

[amber igloo]

I'd get carpal at my age playing mk3

[spare talon]

mk3 is literally just getting into a flow state between all of the things it can do

[placid fiber]

Just be a ror1 bandit main lol

[rocky nacelle]

special light heavy

you are now top 1% of knife users

just do the dont die part

[amber igloo]

you mean, pushattack special light?

[placid fiber]

Nooo... my 1 weaknesss

[amber igloo]

why would you do special light heavy?

[placid fiber]

Don't look at me, I don't knife in general

[amber igloo]

oh you mean mk3

well you can do pushattack special light on mk6 for same dmg

quicker, because the stab comes out faster than a heavy

[placid fiber]

I'm so used to not push attacking that I forget about the knives having good push attacks

a lot

[amber igloo]

dude pushattack is the bread and butter of mk6

[placid fiber]

I know the push attack is the bread and butter of the knives

[rotund shoal]

push attacks are just amazing in general

[amber igloo]

both for single dps, and for resetting your horde combo

[placid fiber]

cough rashad, thammer COUGH

[rotund shoal]

yeh ok lets not use rashad for combo diversity examples lol

could teach a hamlet inspired monkey to play that

[placid fiber]

Hell even the heavy swords

[amber igloo]

JUST NEVER HEAVY MANIACS WITH RASHAD

oh wait

[rotund shoal]

they fixed it

this patch

[placid fiber]

Wait they did? lol

[amber igloo]

yea I know

it was stupid

watching new players intuitively trying to heavy maniacs

[modern lintel]

mk6 supremacy

[amber igloo]

I've given up explaining long ago

nwo I don't have to anymore

[placid fiber]

They finally fixed it... almost 2 YEARS AFTER THE GAME WAS RELEASED?!

[north sedge]

they fixed it but doing lights is still faster

generally

[placid fiber]

Yep

The main things I heavy are ogryns and monsters

Sometimes I'll heavy maulers

[amber igloo]

you can prolly 2 heavy muti with momentum

[lusty harness]

wondering what perks are optimal for rashad on zealot? I only know what vet needs on it..

[amber igloo]

2 light with martyr tho

shred BM

ooor, you can do piety with headtaker I guess

[placid fiber]

Ew, piety on a caxe

[amber igloo]

exactly

I wouldn't, but it would work

[placid fiber]

That's like marty on a knife

only at least that has some value

compared to piety caxe

[amber igloo]

with how the CDR node works now, any weapon with piety will be able to spam fotf

[placid fiber]

every 12.5s

[hot jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1256509975572774983/makesweet-53je05.gif

[light badge]

she's so goofy and stupid

[spare talon]

if you are going IJ with rashad, BM headtaker with flak unyielding, assuming perfect stats

[amber igloo]

thing is, you only need shred for the CDR node, if you don't have it, headtaker will be better

it's not like rashad has amazing finesse scaling

[placid fiber]

Yep, 80% mobility, 80% pen, 80% finesse, 60% damage/first target

[amber igloo]

okayish at best

[broken walrus]

How do you kill Crushers with the Rashad?

[placid fiber]

chastise and heavies

[amber igloo]

hit em repeatedly, until their HP hits 0

[broken walrus]

What if there are 5

[spare talon]

that still comes at the cost of all of the damage headtaker gives, which is huge all around, and also part of what reaches the bruiser breakpoint

[placid fiber]

dodge

and heavies

[amber igloo]

generally works vs every enemy type

[broken walrus]

I totally didnt just die to crushers just now

[spare talon]

dodging and heavies

[broken walrus]

btw

[lusty harness]

Thank you ❤️

[placid fiber]

That's in general how you kill crushers tho

[opaque island]

oh so thats where that skin type comes from lvl 20 mastery

[naive stirrup]

using random loadouts mod and uh
shroudfield, martyrdom heavy sword

[north sedge]

Yea red weapons

[placid fiber]

Jesus, that sounds worse than my shroudfield momentum build with a heavy sword lol

[naive stirrup]

it could be worse

i got pathed through benediction at least

[placid fiber]

Could've been chorus lol

[naive stirrup]

so my top of tree looks normal

[placid fiber]

Does loner still keep the base zealot aura?

[naive stirrup]

base aura is emperor's will
a weaker version of benediction

[placid fiber]

Yeah, I'm just asking in general

[quiet spruce]

recommended blessings for crusher?

[naive stirrup]

it replaces it

[placid fiber]

skullcrusher slaughterer

[spare talon]

skullcrusher slaughterer

[placid fiber]

loner used to keep the base zealot aura

it might still

[quiet spruce]

sweet ty

[naive stirrup]

oh fr?

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[naive stirrup]

shit that might explain why people get mad at me for not having it LOL

[placid fiber]

It wasn't as useless as we all thought

it is now just bleh, instead of useless

[vague depot]

any idea why playing on fullscreen doesnt cover up my taskbar for some reason

[paper harness]

It’s kinda useless

[placid fiber]

sounds like a glitch

[paper harness]

[quiet spruce]

I saw you were using dc, what would you recommend for it? trying to collect different weapons to use

[placid fiber]

Don't get me wrong, loner's effect might as well be useless a lot of the time... but the base zealot aura is at least of use

[amber igloo]

That took way too long to kill, imagine having a knife there

[vague depot]

it hurts so much and hiding it doesnt work

[amber igloo]

and think about how sad that is

a knife being the best weapon in the game

[spare talon]

i was playing safe considering i was the last alive against that many enemies that can one shot me
id also be playing as safe with knife, tho it would be faster cuz id have a flamer with that build and everything short of a crusher would die almost instantly

[broken walrus]

A knife in the night is worth ten thousand at dawn or something like that

[vague depot]

not using dueling sword anymore?

[rotund shoal]

The mightiest warrior fears the smallest knife

[amber igloo]

yea I am not trying to belittle you, I'm just sad how OP knife is

[spare talon]

that recording was before the patch

[vague depot]

oh ok

[placid fiber]

CLEAVE!!

[spare talon]

i was fuckin around with rashad cuz i didnt use it that much till then

[vague depot]

whats the point of having the cleave notification btw

[amber igloo]

I would get a headache with that many mods running lol

if they are horizontal, their HP has hit 0

that's all I need to know

[vague depot]

the only mod i have is a potato mod so that i can actually run the game

[placid fiber]

cough except for that 1 poxwalker with 1hp left

[rotund shoal]

if my brain is not being brainburst by the amount of information being broadcast into it

im not living

[vague depot]

its just that the visuals are slightly worse since its a potato mod

[amber igloo]

did you know, the less enemies are surrounding you, the harder they hit?

[broken walrus]

What game is that? /s

[placid fiber]

Eh, still looks more modern than oblivion

[amber igloo]

why the lone poxwalker will kick your kidneys down

[rotund shoal]

oblivion is still my favourite tes

and i know i will get shat upon for saying that lol

[placid fiber]

Just like the lone assrat that spawned behind you and was in mid swing as it spawned

[amber igloo]

yea its a tide mechanic

[spare talon]

i have it set to display when an overhead is happening within a distance i have set with the mod
mostly used for silent crushers or maulers, and overheading maulers who are perfectly blending in behind a bulwark or something
it doesnt help much in this situation due to the fact that theres almost always at least one overheading lmao so it just stays there the whole time

[light badge]

okay but why does this fuck

[placid fiber]

I don't miss ass rats

[amber igloo]

I miss vermintide melee, but I can't go back anymore after DT movement

[vague depot]

oh i thought it was to signal that you yourself hit a cleave attack

[placid fiber]

It's just sad how much less weight a lot of the melee weapons have, for how they feel

[spare talon]

heres an instance where i was too distracted by the m1 pinger to notice the cleave notification, and the audio of it being drowned out by the pings

[amber igloo]

2500 in VT2, 3k+ and counting in DT

[spare talon]

fuck these guys btw

[amber igloo]

Melee in general is better in VT2 imo

[vague depot]

m1 ping is wild

[rotund shoal]

feel wise no

mechanics wise yes

[frozen kernel]

I never played VT2. I played VT1 but only for maybe 10-20 hours. I don’t know if I could go back after this much Darktide lol

[amber igloo]

its a different take

VT2 is about finesse

[naive stirrup]

i do my best to get them to die as fast as possible

[amber igloo]

DT is brute force

[naive stirrup]

then i don't pick them up

for any reaso

[placid fiber]

only 1.9k in vt2, and 1.7k in darktide... meanwhile... my ror2 time...

[naive stirrup]

i would rather lose a run than hear ping spam

[rotund shoal]

I had one ping spammer that blew himself up with the plama gun THREE TIMES in a mission

[spare talon]

this is the only time in the history of the game where i have never assisted a player when they were down or trapped or whatever

i actively avoided it

[rotund shoal]

I dont even know how you do that

[frozen kernel]

I’ve hated it since the moment YouTubers started talking about it

[spare talon]

ive never done that before

[naive stirrup]

same

[rocky nacelle]

do it more

[naive stirrup]

everyone else, even smykers , i will go out of my way to pick them up

[rocky nacelle]

its a liberating feeling

[spare talon]

exactly

[placid fiber]

Yeah, fuck those guys

[amber igloo]

no no that's not how you do it

[rotund shoal]

nah revive humping people is funny as hell if they were rude before

[amber igloo]

you run away as far as possible from smykers

[rotund shoal]

best part is they rage quit after

[amber igloo]

well, I guess you can pick em up once they've died

they gonna ragequit soon anyhow

STICK TOGETHER GUYS

I have pinatas for you to hit

no thanks

[spare talon]

as much as i love clutching games
ill be damned if i let someone (whos not being a massive asshole) die if i had the ability to safely save them

[rocky nacelle]

I think I let someone who woke up a DH die to a dog once

[rocky nacelle]

think it was an oggy

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile, the smykers that apparently know what they are doing just mulch the shit before you can try to hit it

[amber igloo]

I don't mind ethical smite users

it's a powerful tool

[placid fiber]

I was today years old when I learned that smite could kill things

[amber igloo]

but slowing the run down by zapping everyhing is annoying

[frozen kernel]

I always just think, “Just because this one psyker is a cunt doesn’t mean I get to make an executive decision for the team to be down 1 player”

It hurts but it’s just not fair in my mind

[spare talon]

your team will take notice that you do this for them

[amber igloo]

you could always do a shitton of dmg with EP smite + soulblaze nodes

[spare talon]

and they will do the same for you

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile my thoughts are: "I've had people that made this moron look like a god-tier player... guess it could be worse..."

[frozen kernel]

Holy fucking revive time wtf

That’s faster than VT2

[spare talon]

cuz its a trapper

lmao

[frozen kernel]

Ohhhh I didn’t see the net

[amber igloo]

revive speed is legit good on oggy tho

[frozen kernel]

I saw the tox flamer and assumed they got gassed lmao

[amber igloo]

its not like you are killable to begin with

the only time an ogryn should die is getting netted in the middle of a horde

[frozen kernel]

The amount of people who don’t just turn and shoot dogs off of teammates is ridiculous

[placid fiber]

Just imagine, tho: +50% revive speed Vets

[frozen kernel]

It’s so free to un-dog someone

Just fucking do it please god

[rocky nacelle]

im pushing 20% revive speed on gunker

[frozen kernel]

ESPECIALLY IF IT’S OUR OGRYN

[placid fiber]

Yeah, I'll literally try to snipe the fucking dogs with my autopistol... and succeed faster than the TWO FUCKING PLAYERS NEXT TO THEM

[placid fiber]

wow

[rocky nacelle]

villain origin story

[placid fiber]

Indeed

[spare talon]

considering.....

[broken walrus]

Bout to say a gamer word?

[spare talon]

no i was about to use an exploit

[small lance]

this made me angry

[spare talon]

to get out of the trap