#zealot-class
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also that build is identical to any crit build i have that uses a crit blessing
EXCEPT
Who the fuck said shredder is the dump stat ill chaxe them
i wish zealots bum ass tree got a rework cause half the talents are all over the place cough ranged talents cough
i already have 50% tdr from enduring faith
i think
Boltpistol then with style
I will mk15 chainsaw with the new IoD change
and abuse IJ
or maybe force perfect strike meme
kek
A real long time ago I asked for help with a evis build and someone linked me a martyrdom evis revolver build and told me shredder was the dump stat
Blood for the emperor, skulls gor the golden throne!
perfect strike bloodthirsty
you could also swap good balance for the second charge node
My favorite personality zealot
fanatic is peak
And I been using that ever since a week ago until cole gave me the dueling sword build
dueling sword is stupid
What is IoD again
invocation of death
crit cooldown reduction
above blazing piety
People who dont dump mobility/defenses are like that one dude in skyrim
With fury; i toast
“Do you run sprint efficiency often? What am I saying of course you don’t”
T*nner
vermintide
people seem to like killing his daughter but i never got the appeal
25% damage reduction after a successful dodge for 2.5s
I hate waterlogged pants
Surely I won’t need that if I just block and dodge properly
pro gamer decision im dropping good balance for faithful frenzy
Damn you rain
I do because its in the way of the best node know to man
sainted gunslinger
GUN ZEALOT IS REAAAAAAAAAL
Off to 😴
ITS REAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLL
TAKE THE SECOND CHARGE RAAAAA YOURE ALREADY AT 35% ATTACK SPEED RAAAAAAA
having 2 charges is literally so huge
take sained gunslinger
do it
do it
do it
u don't need duelist...
or the dodge momentum stack talent...
memes aside sainted gunslinger helps alot with bolter useage
🎑
🎑
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ok true spamming 2 charges with new broken cdr (I also have backstab cdr)
sounds funnier than more atk spd
🎑
I actually kinda like new IoD more
we are literally so back
we have never been more back than at this moment right now
It’s so much more visible
Whats lod?
And feels better
lots of dookie
It also helps support 30% crit weapons (with piety)
cuz 10 seconds is roughly how long it would take you to get your ability back with any fast weapon
but now you dont need multiple enemies to make use of it
Crusher piety doesn’t feel like shit either
so its drastically more useful in many more situations
i love getting out 3 fotfs on a demonhost in 15 seconds
May god ignore you like you ignored my question cole
What is this creature
Crit CDR
IoD is invocation of death
i thought you were joking cuz that question was asked and answered like 3 times in the last 5 minutes lmao
leader on duty
I wanna kms
did a match
matched with a smyker
alr whatever
he has 6 wounds on malice
Just leave
metaphor refantazio is literally just persona: racist edition
Or don’t play malice
gets downed every minutes
trying to relearn melee
doing it on lower difficulty first
I'm terrible at melee and want to improve
shouldve told him to make sure he used those wounds to the fullest if he was gonna run them
its easy
block shove
attack
Is the MC played by anyone funny and/or the antagonist (again)
I asked him why run 6 wounds and bro really said "to make up for dipshit teammates like you"
shrimple as that
I run wound curios on my duel sword crit zealot becuase I literally have no other curios and all the shop bot has been offering is +2 stamina
can I kill people through a screen
I wanna learn how to kill people thorugh a screen
the canonical english and japanese name of the MC is will
and he actually is voice acted in scenes where other characters are
love me stam curia
Complicatedly
No fucking way
He speaks
Hulkenburg is a baddie
He’s built like makoto of course he does
yeah but makoto was literally a gigachat of a twink
i think he gets a pass
I was leveling a shit lasgun with a shovel
only makoto I know
I was doing top damage melee only
and this guy's calling me the dipshit teammate
Give a last name
Command grab into victory screen
I hate how the metaphor protag looks
third strike bay beeee
The parry
talking about atlus's newest rpg, metaphor
same guys who made persona, the makoto we're talking about is the mc of persona 3
he has a surge staff and assail
Atlus will never create a protag with more aura than demi fiend
and I was outdamaging him in trash mob
Best bet is to just not worry about this type of stuff
This absolute Edgelord with a goddamned pixie in the background is killing me
Forget and queue up again
it hurts me to see someone with 6 wound on malice
Maybe write their username down in your own personal book of grudges idk
how do you even get so bad that you get downed 12 times and gets killed 2 times in a 20 minute mission
with six wounds mind you
lobotomites
My cat got up I can finally go to sleep
We call such people a penance farm
can we make a pocket dimension I can just put my dog into
he keeps sleeping on things I need
and I feel bad for waking him up
Same with my cats, except those things are attached to me
slept right on my pack when I built him a bed and everything
he sleeps everywhere except where I want him to sleep
As this legendary knife zealot once said after running off alone, dying to a DH, and being asked to play the team game with everyone: “hur durr worry about urself”
The caliber of player the update has brought back is horrifying
he literally is the pendejo
I’m trying to help friends level new characters, desperately pleading with them to let me bring them into T5 because I know that with 2 other competent players I can make up for my homie lacking, but the problem is that in T4 the entire team is lacking and I refuse to run a Marty clutch build 24/7 to make up for peepee players
Heresy is the hardest difficulty after all
I'm stuck in such a bad spot for darktide rn
Just run malice maelstroms
I can do auric missions mostly competently as long as my teammates can keep up with the pace
Speedrun sedition
I’m convinced that Heresy is full of people who are too shit/too scared to play anything higher
I'm not rushing or anything they just run backward to kill that one bruiser 2 km back
heresy maelstroms
has anyone messed with slaughter spree + headtaker tac axe? seems great since 1 shot headtaker can't get the extra 30% crit from bleed hits, and you dont need to worry about crit chance at all anymore
the wall in front of you:
do they at least play with audio on
how can they not hear that hammer
Bro is too busy listening to the same 3 Sabaton songs on repeat, couldn’t hear the whoosh
Had a dude kick me because I was wasn’t with the team because training a beast
I love the new flak horde
I turn around and people in T4 are literally back dodging off ledges
Im a tactical Axe II and 4 nerd, for me the best setup perfomance wise is Headtaker + Brutal Momentum
this is followed by Headtaker + Decimator, this combo is insane 80% power value if you can play to its strength.
I never feel a need to use Shred as base 65% + critrate from piety + scourge was enough
enough for crushers
they kill the incompetent people so fast
Yeah I went down after killing it because of he gunners lol
chew them up like paper
being in a better position for survival >>>>> being with the team
you just obliterate them with a barrage of lights
toxic elitism
with 80% power
He’s strafing it
They’re dying to fucking gravity without explosions 
I understand the imperium of man does NOT abide by OSHA regulations, we could do with some guardrails
I just got ledged by the mobile barrels yesterday 
But FAAAAAACK MAN
The worst change ever 
I don’t blame anyone for getting thrown around by flamers lol
But when you kneeslide backwards off a ledge while I’m fighting a chaos spawn
If you want to save your mate from the back from a flamer you better aim for their little feetsies
I cannot help I am sorry 
If the organics didn’t want to fall off ledges they should be more careful
No reason to waste metal on a worker filter
My dumb ass thinking I could get 7 hours of sleep when my entire respiratory and nasal system decides to go on vacation
I totally failed clutching a train QP the other day because I tried to save an ogryn who got ledged instead of just finishing the boss, died to the horde trying to get back
Big sad
I can’t breathe well enough to sleep, at least you can try
Pour one out for the apnea homies
Rip
It’s not apnea, just fuckoff congestion
I have other genetic diseases I need to worry about
like being a 40k fan
Other than that
It’s so good with that one perk that adds crit chance when you ADS
surgical
did you not have this???
no ive been said this
Haven’t gotten my mastery up yet because playing vet <30 licks cold wiener
Malice maelstroms
Do they give a butt load of XP?
Proportionally
Also lets you get Situational Awareness progress (because more barrels modifier)
Not home right now but when these people can’t even finish a T4 and regular T3 doesn’t even give a level at 20…it’s rough
im still of the firm opinion
there needs to be a reward for situational awareness
give us a barrel insignia or frame
👎
I don’t want to play 12 hours of veteran to finish the damn class because every other run is a failure, and Brunt doesn’t give me anything above ~40% damage so I can’t even hope to clutch
This is my fifth circle
some penances are such a PITA they should have "pity" rewards
honestly
do the maelstrom in the middle
even if you lose you get hella xp
Ima give maelstrom a try next time I play vet
I played a couple T5’s the other night but at that level I contribute so little that it’s not fair to them
Monstrous specialists or go home 
a heresy maelstrom gives almost double a damnation
Yeah I’m deleting some specials but when things get scary, I’m not helping when it takes ~3 hits to kill regular pox and a dozen to kill a single Moebian in melee with a PS
Don’t use power sword without power cycler
They appreciate my courage but I can’t be forcing people to just carry my alt to 30 lmao
Give us a cosmetic set where we just wear a barrel
Like in DRG there’s a barrel skin for Bosco
cycler + sunder
That would be a bit silly
its either that or power cycler
both would be goated on an ironhelm
power cycler would break crucis
lmfao
Sunder would be the goofiest shit in existence
double chastise + 2 special charged heavies in the span of 5 seconds
if power cycler was a thing on crucis
Screenwipe crushers
I’d love to see a modded try to get it working just to see what it would look like
they not ready for the conversation
sunder ironhelm
power cycler crucis
How many crushers could a sunder thrust Crucis kill in one swing
I would adore sunder ironhelm if it only allows cleave through specialists
crusher CLEAVE
crucis if it had Sunder
those side sweeping heavies would be fucking devious
Mid mid kaisen
It’s somehow easier to do empowered lights against shotgunners and shit now
I never thought I’d see the day
Shonen manga creators try not to create dogshit endings
yu yu hakusho
🐐
soul eater
fire force (by extension)
beelzebub
hitman reborn
im sure toriko's ending is good
is the isekai where the guy die in a plane crash?
I just havent read it yet
its not an isekai at all
lmfao
oh i am thinking of smth else then
baby with a gun
BABY WITH A GLOCK???????
i need to read that someday
so many live action
lot of good shounen endings out there
kenshin ended well too
(the author is cursed though so that blows)
In what way?
this was such a good anime
kenshin author is a pdf
Is that the immortal samurai dude?
Blade of the immortal thats it
The dude was caught with so much material the police suspected he was a distributor
you can do that yes
(it be funnier if it never played in the game)
i have not
and it was one of those original soundtrack CD only things
that songs that might play when you fight sans
I hated playing yakuza 3
N micheal jordan
Not because the combat sucked
yakuza 3 is hella boring at the start
But because when you do heat actions the enemy jaws dislodge really weirdly
are any of these the best starting yakuza game
How do you not have song of life and 5
yes
these are all from my brothers library
which were from humble bundle
wheres that yakuza turn base game
0 is the official starting point
oh ok cool
i might get around to it in 10 years


We gotta make cole buy the judgement games where you can date 18 years olds as a 35 year old man
sus
If someone actually does that near me I am introducing their head to the nearest hard surface
is it worth it to change cara to WS/CD with precog on?
the wat
Yes
my brother in christ we dont have the lock anymore
just do it
Alright my face has permitted my nose continued function I am going to pass the fuck out
Yes this is a thing in judgement
im just too lazy to test if it helps/drops any breakpoints
I knew what that was from the tenor link name I saw half of in the notif
ok
i use unyielding flak
what is flak for?
more damage against scab lesser enemies on light attacks
Oct 1st, roll out the Christmas music
weakspot and crit damage is always only the additional damage from that condition, so it in reality is less than 10%
even on really high finesse weapons
vs armor damage that is always there and always effective
does it not increase the precog bonus?
at 25%
im pretty sure weakspot bonuses are additive
it would be base + crit(1+0.6+0.1)
and same for weakspot
whereas the armor type perks are of the total damage of the hit after all bonuses
if they intend to keep it that ass for 2+ years might as well merge them to give both 10s in 1 perk slot
sure you could throw that on there to deal a slight bit more to bosses with that and unyielding
but why would you
idk? it already feels kinda broken on zealot, only missing the unbreakable block
How valuable is stun immunity on a Dueling Sword rapier goblin build? I'm trying to fit Benediction instead of Loner and I'm trying to cut points literally anywhere I can.
im actually gonna do some testing later honestly
and see how much flak actually affects bruisers
and shooter etc
with light attacks
i think you 2 tap them either way without martyrdom
cuz i know the 25% carapace perk doesnt reach any breakpoints
on crushers and maulers
please ping me with results of your testing because i really cba doing allat 
so if flak isnt doing anything useful (i legit just put it on there cuz its literally flak)
i will unironically use 5% crit chance
because not a single perk beyond that will be giving duelling sword any significant benefit
Just like vermintide you love to see it
attack speed crit chance gang rise up
Crit chance block cost reduction
tho i will say @austere lagoon our duelling swords differ
i use thrust precog, cuz im getting my rending from my piety cdr for fotf
tho thrust wont affect what im testing, uncanny will
cuz uncanny affects flak
so idk
thrust gives less on both stims dps wise
source: i made it up
but it feels like less bang per second of buff
How often does Second Wind (15% toughness on dodge) proc? Worth picking up?
i do not play without it
ever
pretty much all the time
Damn, okay.
it is literally the best toughness talent in the game in my opinion
mmm bloodthirsty spam moment
you will FEEL it lmao its so good
I'm trying to trim my build and see if I can somehow fit Benediction instead of Loner, but I'm having a hard time cutting a single talent point.
show me your build and tell me what you use with it
and ill see what i can do to it (im likely going to path you through throwing knives cuz im just evil like that) (just kidding tknives are awesome)
Running Dueling Sword (US/Riposte), not sure on the ranged weapon but right now I'm using a Columnus IAG (or whatever it is called now)
(Knives are amazing, I agree)
This is what I'm trying to do.
But I'm a point short.
Is it even worth it?
Really?
Actually, yeah, you're right. I'd be losing Loner and 5% TDR for better uptime.
damage resistances have diminishing returns, and you already basically have 100% uptime on enduring faith with a crit build (riposte/scourge), which is 50% toughness dr
so while good balance is great, it isnt needed
Thanks, you're a proper saint.
That is exactly what I was looking for -- just hoping that losing Loner isn't that big a deal.
tho while we're on the topic of duelling sword
i can throw my hat in for what i use
Absolutely.
i am in a flak/maniac club and scored 1+m two (and only played two tbh) matches yesterday
gonna enjoy it today too, godbless the variety in choices
I sort of went with that vibed the most with me.
its the worst of the 3 now that they removed the fact that it retained the original 7.5% tdr base zealot aura
Hey, I'm okay with solicited feedback! 😛
Right now I'm running 60% mobility (is there a better dump stat?), US/Riposte, Flak/Carapace. Not sure about breakpoints specifically, just went with my gut.
I'd be curious to other insights.
I use uncanny/precog and get all my crit from piety on DS
if it has mobility, dump mobility
I might poke with DS
but bloodthirsty mk15 my beloved
evisc is too fun
(fuck knife)
I thought Defense was first on the chopping block, not Mobility? (Not that it matters for the DS in this case)
Keep in mind as zealot you’re gonna be dodging to proc duelist so it’s nice to have
alright since cole is off its my turn to find the god tier rolling steel randos
did you do auric or normal board cole
(I doubt they'll be good on either one)
yeah true
Yeah, I was desperate enough for a point, but that's been solved now. 😄
normaly board
auric has good people
for rolling steel
idk i just always dump mobility because i don’t like thinking
is duelist additive to precog?
ive had good runs on auric rolling steel
but not everyone going into that mission is doing well
ill put it like that
I think I will run cavalcade shattering impact on my bolter with piety
plasma or voidstrike make it a lot easier than its supposed to be
even though manstopper DBarrel is peak
thats cause those make the game easier as a whole
if the math is still like pre-patch, then yeah
Is damage a good dump stat?
@spare talon Just wanted to say thanks for all the help, this isn't the first time you've given me great advice. 💗
hold on im typing a ted talk
Oh fuck.
just wanted to say fuck you your advice has never helped me win an auric once
@spare talon
maybe youre just that bad idk

5% crit chance makes a difference
top 1% of 5%
im of the opinion that its too costly to path over to stealth for it
so i get all of the raw damage from the blessings on my duelling sword, thrust and precog. thrust is honestly there for big dick damage, this can be changed to riposte for more crit chance, or uncanny on the account of it always being good
i build into piety because my lack of a crit chance blessing means that im not taking advantage of its huge crit multiplier, so this is the only way i can make use of it, which also works well cuz its right below the crit cdr node, which allows me to get fury of the faithful in 10 seconds, giving me much more attack speed and 100% rending on the crit hit from it (which is why i forgo uncanny), and with the attack speed buff lasting as long as it takes to recharge, im basically always at 30% atk speed, making horde clear a non issue
dont tanner gif me
youre so mean

but t*nner gifing someone who is actually knowledgeable is 10x funnier
its like cursing them
Any thoughts on how to better optimize this? (Minus rolling for a better DS cause i couldn't be asked lmao )
is sustained assault and +5% damage better than purge the unclean?
Cole posting wall of text
That sounds sensible. I'm gonna try copying that and seeing it in action -- my only issue is I'm coming from Ogryn so the charge being different fucks up my muscle memory.
cole posting wall of text, me explaining the same exact build but saying it hits shit hard

(I will intake the knowledge but I will not post walls of text)
not my deal
yes
because its 25% damage against everything vs 20% against bosses and hordes
nuh uh
i use it on ij builds
but its not mandatory for crit ones cuz theres so many good nodes for those builds
anything with damage
has my name on it
so im always gonna advocate for purge the unclean
even if I dont use it in every build
i mean i have exact same build except its purge the unclean instead of sustained assault
(I think its an amazing fallback talent if you decide to have your melee focus on carapace/flak like a Thunder hammer)
the zealot charge is basically a "YOU. DIE." button, and also has an attack speed bonus like ogryn does for a duration after it
so you can hit UNYLD Cara/Flak dmg points all at once
wish we had less(0) tax so i could just pick every single broken perk 
What are you babbling about
he already hates the current power creep
imagine giving players even 3-5 more talent points
lmfao
fuck no
(it would be so insane)
destiny 2 builds coming out
3-5?? just 1 point would give a lot of wiggle room on vet and psyker
What game do you speak of?
Wouldn't 1 point more make every class op
dropping faithful frenzy and double chastise or sustained assault
is tempting me
I want even dumber unyielding damage
What ranged weapon do you pair with that build?
flamer
I frigging love that setup.
(considering DS can literally handle the entire fucking game)
drop thy wrath be swift
its probably preference
flamer brittleness
ergo, you are stupid
ratio
Am I cooking with this support build
How do you deal with distant ranged targets? Charge, sprint slide, let other people handle them?
flamer brittleness uncanny stacking
noob moment
max your damage better
i can fix this
I will not use throwing knives
food poisoning inc
(remove extra book node, and remove everything under 10% attack speed)
free 3 points
Ey don't talk wack about my build
if thats the case you lose out on too many good nodes
If I don't have nades I lose out on too many wins
whats the weapon this is using anyway
id go IJ then
ogryn/vet nades are better anyway, you just use the dollar store blitz and feed them grenade boxes
exactly this
throwing knives are a ranged option for specialist that are faster than a gun, and replenish themselves by you just being zealot
people hoovering up ammo wont stop you from being able to kill that trapper or sniper
NORMAL BOARD GOOD MAELSTROM
CARRY TIME
(hot dropped)
it just started
prob
youll load into the beginning
i hope so anyway
like it just showed up on the board
What curios should i be running on Zealot? +3 stam, health and toughness?
I'll give knives a shot but I always feel gimped without my safety grenades
3 toughness, or 2 toughness 1 stam
all wounds on martyrdom
you should be as efficient as a immo grenade
you should be a walking immo nade as zealot
tbh
unironically, playing without that safety net will start to make you better at being able to deal with those situations where youd use grenades to begin with
or you can just run a flamer lmao
assuming your melee can deal with crushers
I don't think i've ever used those nades to not save other people, otherwise if it's me surrounded by shit i don't use em
I either gtfo and start kiting or perish for ever being in that situation in the first place
Pulling the grenade to toss if i'm surrounded takes too long
It's mostly for picking people up yeah
any rez situation a grenade can help with, a flamer can too
Sm2 is funny
What about the perks on curios?
Sniper has a massively increased revive speed versus other classes
Also. you don't run Everlasting flame on the flamer?
why would i need to
anything (besides crushers) that id be flaming dies before im even out of ammo in the mag
idk who's been advocating that, there's too many people asking about it
tanner at it again
at least 2 gunner resist
+5 toughness is always good
stam regen is good if you find yourself using it a lot
+hp is also good, but is less important than +toughness
sniper resist is good, but i wouldnt use more than one
can also use dockets if you really wanna farm money
So, i'm better off with something like overpressure or penetrating flame?
yes
blaze away and pen flame/overpressure
i like pen flame cuz it actually does noticable damage to crushers that way
like with pen flame and blaze away, i killed almost 20 armored melee elites in 1 mag, almost completely wiping the room
slap it
why would i want to have it reload itself a bit at the cost of the damage im outputting
burn stacks are capped at 15 anyway
half a mag of flamer and everything is already capped out
I mean, this def explains why tf i wasn't dong any damage with it LOL
its been really easy to get good rolls lately
idk what ur issue is
Naturally unlucky is my issue
imagine not having hoarded bases for 5 months
have u tried rolling better
Stray black cat crosses my path daily maybe thats it
black cats r pawesome
pray to the emperor
i love black cats
omnissiah is fake
its definitely an interesting blessing, but in practice with how the flamer/burn works, not really that useful imo
only use case i can think of is just not needing to reload between uses on a piety build, but also like, you can just reload when nothing is attacking you lol
i imagine perks would be, Flak and what? Unarmored?
Ended up giving it a shot, I might actually be converted to charge now. Will definitely have to test it more, it's definitely less braindead than low health Martyr stab spam.
fotf is probably the best zealot ability for most builds lmao
I suppose, I just really like stealthing and doing hacks while everyone else is busy getting dogged.
instant 50% toughness
ensured crit
100% melee rending
very high mobility lock on dash
10s of 20% attack speed for melee and ranged
up to 2 charges for 1 talent
30s cooldown, 10s with crit cdr
insane
Shroudfields sweeps
also fun and engaging unlike book
and doesnt delete the game for you unlike stealth
yeah i used stealth knife for quite a while
but my build was very unhinged lmao, i used all +3 stamina curios and banked on not getting hit lmao
i do not recommend this btw
im gonna aggro a hoard of crushers behind u and stealth
Id win
which blessings for bolt pistol? is surgical DA trap any good?
any demonhosts?
the ogryn (far left) was competent so it was chillax
no
actually
very crinfe
I did 3 shot a BoN though
(weakened)
and they could have spawned more bosses but thats just me
bitch
15 bosses
and?
I get a deep masochistic sense of thrill when 4 bosses show up (2 have their health bar showing and the other 2 just popped in un announced)
moments like that
@frosty herald welcome back, demifiend
what if
instead of demi friend
he was called demi freak
and
if they didnt have imminent impact mode
at the end of the mission
it be so much harder
ik
once the bar fills up, it starts a 30 second countdown
ive failed at that part as the last alive just when i entered the control room
cuz everyone kept fucking dying
as per usual
real
even with ds4 you dont 1 shot the terminals fast enough?
I guess breaking all of them solo would be aids
pretty sure you can heavy + alt them
ur noob
i had broken only 1 of them
before it hit 0
cuz i killed the boss with 3 seconds left
maybe the timer stops after the boss? theres surely 0 overtime before you finish him off
if imminent starts and the boss is at half or you have sufficient boss DPS and hes at full
its doable
imo
timer stops when terminals break
also funny thing this song came on mid way through the mission lmfao
mod to replace the entire Rolling Steel OST with blade club theme
thrust one shots it
it does
you can charge it up as soon as you break the last one
i normally have most of them broken by the time anyone else gets there
assholemaxxing
normalize being an absolute dick to everyone you speak to
@obsidian prairie voice acting
Why is bro so androgenous
Or how you spell it
androgynous
pretty cool word
ever since beta/release I was like what the fuck is a flash mission
then they dropped the auric storm update
and I was like what the fuck is a flash mission
ok
its 4 am
we're doing it
im not tired at all yet so we're doing it
the hard reset
time to take a nap 12 hours later and fuck it all up
dont end up in the news like
"diablo player found ded after playing 49 hours without sleep"
yeah no its just gonna be like maybe 30 hours, because ive been going to bed at 7 am and waking up at 3-4 pm
so im manually going to stretch it out up till like 9-10pm and then sleep, then i can adjust more from there
cuz i have slowly been going to bed later and later over the last 2-3 months, and soon id be asleep during the whole day and awake the whole night
its already been starting to fuck up my work shifts despite them being later in the day
Have you been levelling your friends’ characters on mostly melee Maelstrom
?
axes are good yes
I have 0 input on them personally because I find them boring
so I cant help you there
that situation was from me joining a random party finder for shits and giggles
and then i ended up helping level this new psyker from lvl 12-30 in like a day
OK. That’s based
and yes i saw heresy scab melee and said "ok this is going to be piss easy with ds/pen flamer"
but the 2 other randos were also leveling
so lol
I hate finding competent leveling randumbs..........
how am I supposed to boost my ego without MY BRICKS (team)
so real
ok since im going piety DS build
(my team dying as I proceed to only flamer for the next 30 seconds with Blazing Piety up)
the rot
amazing how dead party finder is
what is dump stat for shotgun? Im inclined to say mobility but idk how useful stability is. I like to schmove around
its crazy cuz its actually implemented well, unlike others
cough cough destiny 2
bruh dont even get me started about team finder for destiny
has the same problem of only being able to choose from keywords
yes but you can also just
directly join the party
insane to me that d2 party finder doesnt do that
In what situation do I want to use the flamer over dueling sword or throwing knives
cole
What
you'll get a natural feeling for it usually but cole can give some examples
Oh ok
use whenever you see cole 
I want to use my throwing knife the moment I swap to animation cancel right
You are guilty that he then will join those aurics matches
and drag down everyone

as fresh 30
at the end he queued us into auric heresy, died once but that was only cuz he went down after grim corruption passed wound threshold since one of the other guys decided it was a grim run lol
guys decided it was a grim run lol
A man of culture
im not even going to lie
i literally watched as this leveling player started to go down less and less by a noticable amount with each game
heres someone else using it (with pen flames) in an auric scab maelstrom, which is the game where i said "yeah no im gonna swap to flamer for this build" since he was running ds4 too
Oh that boss clip reminds me is there a guide to kiting every boss
In vermintide it was just walk into them and backdash but it feels like it’s probably a bit more complicated for darktide
in darktide its basically just backpedaling while you dodge their attacks, which you get a feel for over time
each attack youll start to just have a "oh i dodge this way/at this moment" thatll work its way into your muscle memory
like chaos spawn grabs, you want to dodge to the right specifically
the grab hitbox is left leaning
Idk about a little the chaos spawn cranked it up to 100
How are you pulling out the flamer that fast
plus if a chaos spawn corners you, you can actually get out of it by dodging to the right when they try to grab you, as their hitbox actually moves enough to allow you to
This does not feel like the type of info I can naturally learn ngl
thats default
im very bad at remembering to tknive cancel
its not worked its way into my habits yet
Strange
I feel its harder to compare because we also move faster in darktide compared to VT2
Maybe it just felt slower because I was in a situation
Oh you do have a point
that may just be a me thing cuz thats how i think about these bosses
outside of beast of nurgle honestly, you can get away without kiting them at all in darktide
Yeah it's pretty easy to kit the other two. I love 1v1ing a plague ogryn personally
They always spawn BoN in hallways
Assholes
Maybe I just need to fight more bosses
Their health bar usually disappears in seconds either by my hand or a teammates
Can you share you DS flamer build I wanna give it a try later
Wait that’s literally just a slightly faster version of the vermintide kite
There’s no way
I’m just ass
its more i-framing the attacks
I thought dodge just deleted attack tracking instead of making you invincible
im putting my back against a wall so he doesnt knock me back to a range where i cant hit him lmao
for plague ogryn single fist slams, i actually dodge to the side with knife instead of backwards, as that keeps me in perfect range
but duelling sword has enough range to where i can just dodge backwards for that
against most attacks
people keep telling me "erm theres no i frames actually" but im 100% convince there are with bosses like this
obviously you cant with crusher overheads and such
and if you dodge an attack from a bruiser then walk back into it, yes youll get hit
It feels like you straight up phased through one of the fist slams
thrust precog, flak unyielding
pen flames blaze away, flak elites
2 tough 1 stam
3x tough
3x stam regen
3x gunner resist
Cheers ill give this a try later
And become the problem haha
What’s the problem
plague ogryns literally the easiest boss to fight against with how easy it is to dodge
(without reloading)
its kind of fucking insane just having 30% crit how broken it is
on that new flamer talent
lmfao
Is it like vt2 outcast engie where we make the game too easy
duelling sword being incredibly overpowered on zealot
especially in the hands of a good player
Ah ok
i dont think ive died to anything besides trappers since ive ran it
Good thing I’m limited by both fps and brainpower
me with everlasting flame + blaze away
mmm yes the backup horde wasnt ready for my infinite fuel tank flamer
idiots
its quite a meme to be able to blaze away a horde in front then 180 and do it behind lmfao
all without reloading
btw
I'm looking at returning to the game after quite a long break, and I could use some insights as to what change and such. I've seen quite a few builds drop Shield of Contempt and instead get both the Flame grenades and the initial perks on the right side.
Also, would Perfect Strike perhaps be stronger for cleaving now that it also gives extra Crit Damage over Savage Sweep?
Lotta new things to get into
Are you coal
Whats the difference between Duelling Sword patterns? Is there a clear better pattern?
both eviscerators prefer flakiac
and for blessings on the Mk3
i'd go rampage/savage sweep
99% of players will do better with mk4, heavys are all stabs
if you really want to crit, shred/savage sweep and go blazing piety on a mk3
Perfect strike served only one purpose and it's been nerfed to the ground/erased from the game
here is a more generalist up to date evisc build
you can go ramp/shred or ramp/BT
and you can swap freely between weapon marks
so you can see whether you like mk15 or mk3 better
mk3 gets more use out of savage sweep cause H1 swing, and mk15 is just a very generalist and easy to use weapon
simple = strong
That's neat, I've always liked the feeling of mk3 better since I liked comboing heavies and lights when playing in melee. I might still look at going Piety since I really like running Chorus and keeping that off cooldown. Thanks for the advice though. Been quite some time since I played Darktide
guys what do u put on your martyrdom curios?
I go 2 wounds 1 toughness
ya but, like toughness regen/ordo dockets/???
2 gunner res, 1 sniper or flamer res, then 3 toughness sub perks and HP (I go stamina regen now)
surely dockets cmon
I still run XP just in case
lol
triple dockets sprint regen
outrun the corruption
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@rocky nacelle How does the gameplay get better and better with each new title
Youd think they peaked at lost judgement
akiyama + majima, it's gonna be fun
literally me
also
Flame nades still feel nice
majima everywhere
having my controller fall apart because i took it apart to fix something
@frosty herald have you thought about SC on new ironhelm
Is what I run. Lotta folks have been saying to drop maniac for elite on the mk3 and really the only breakpoint I've noticed is that I lose 2HKO on trappers, but the pistol can pick up that slack. It handles pretty much every kind of special in just a couple taps, reapers and bulwarks go down in about a dozen shots or less. Crushers gotta go the old fashioned way but you can kite them pretty easy with the evi's range
skullcrush
Revolver is still pretty bangin but I just wanted more dakka without the bolter's horrific reload speed, so I picked up the laspistol
Nah thrust is still worth it
Ehh
seems like a gimmick that works better not in solo queue
Crusher benefits from it cause the entire aoe explosion inflicts it
Damn that shits good
I actually dont mind this
but I want 80 CC for more atk spd
I will be using this for now though
I got this Thunder Hammer, but dunno what their status is atm
basically perfect rolled hammer
you empower it, it will only go to defences (which is the dump stat)
every other stat is maxxed and what you want already
Really happy that the new system is here too, cuz it also looks like this
Now go and 1tap crushers.
From the old system
rate how based this build is
Drop desperation for 2nd charge of chastise.
What perks/blessings for the hammer? I'm assuming Unyielding and Carapace/Flak, then Thrust plus something?
I'd have to abuse PA specials only
Unyielding, carapace, thrust, headtaker. You should be able to 1tap crushers with it using the crucis model.