#zealot-class
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i mean crusher been fantastic but the addition of slaughterer makes it absolutely nutty now
80% damage
DPW are things alright at home
Crusher has kinda been... idk, a bit too jack of all tradesy for me
But now it's got the damage to really excel
I feel very in control with it
is it just me or is this somewhat similar to the fire wastes camo...?
every in control kinda worked too
Yep, it was just what I got for my roll and I am not going to make an 80% mobility 60% damage one unless I get a bunch of extra resources... since I have this flamer already...
Its a mechanicus camo
that red the canister has in the shadow is the red I wish they were in the light
Meh... I feel like putting the 25% unyielding back on it...
I am uh, not impressed with the mastery 20 skin for most wapons
Not too much of a difference in the end, piety allows for 100% uptime on the attack speed buff from fotf, and the ability gives you a forced 100% rending crit (which is more useful on this cuz you lack rending, its how the damage is so huge) every ten seconds to basically one shot anything
Not to mention having up to 60% crit chance reliably without a crit blessing is massive for a weapon like duelling sword with its like 2.71x or so finesse multi
whats the dump stat for duelling sword?
mobility
is there something similar to the ogynomicon for other classes if anyone knows?
ok thank you
psyker has one
nope unfortunately
agreed but it is what it is
guess there is a psyker one I didn't know about tho
No but many people here have an equivalent in their brain so just ask questions
🤣
I most certainly don't, my adhd makes sure of it whether or not I want it to...
what are the killer flamer perks/blessings now?
The documents we have are less guides and more detailed information on exactly how things work, but every other class has those too
Just realized I only had 3 hours before the contracts reset lol
hasn’t been updated since the patch I don’t think so it’s mostly just good for tips and a few weapon recommendations
Blaze away pen flames
Flak and elites/carapace
or over pressure if you have a melee that can take care of carapace and you don’t wanna double dip
You can skip pen flames if you have 0 interest in damaging crushers tho, and replace it with overpressure
@spare talon Wait, are you saying I actually built my flamer correctly?!

I still love the safety of inspiring barrage
I am undecided between pen flames or blaze away tho
damage is still the dump yea?
Oh and damage dump stat and at least 76% burn
yarp
On the Flamer/Purgatus? Yes, damage is the dump stat
Perfect, grazi
I dump mobil but damage is also a big dump
Even tho I ended up with a 80% damaage 60% mobility flamer lol
evidently inferno staff dump stat can be warp resist for those that wanna maintain high warp
are the thunder hammers any good?
Damage when dumped is a loss of 1 damage on the impact that applies the burn
damage being high decreases the time between direct damage stacks -> you inflict brittleness a bit faster
Yes, they're borderline op now
tearing my skin off atm
and also purgatus staff has more impact damage compared to flamer (according to someone in here earlier I did not confirm)
but it's so marginal whatever
brag about it
Almost triple
Warp resist is the dump for that staff
I mean I was able to 2 shot heresy monsters with only 3 martyrdom stacks with my thammer
Maybe not a plague ogryn, but, a spawn/daemonhost/assassination boss
does Blazing Piety have some sort of internal cooldown?
thanks
hot fuzz?
Jeeze, this blazing piety modifier makes them almost as tanky as marty lol
(peak)
Sad that it's on the side you don't want to take
For what part of it
And yet they still left this the exact same... aka: a forgettable...
Unfortunately it's a multiplicative stack unlike martyr
but it's still good, basically good balance
The other side is still better imo
I still can't believe they buffed this. :/
better upkeep on fury and %10 more crits is just godly
I've also never thought about this
Does left side stack multiple times for the group
Can you have a full group of left side piety and have a higher total crit chance
Seems like it was buffed to fit 130 toughness marty zealots or w/e...
it doesnt
Cole no

Wait, first u gotta go 2 shot a plague ogryn without shroudfield
Unrelated note what curios do you take in your dueling sword build
think of all the demonhosts you haven’t poked to death with the DSword
cole will u play sm2 now
My guess is: Toughness or Wound if Marty
martyrdom is sooo tanky rn
is it?
it is, since you can actually go left to get the cdr on crits as well now
I mean with 3 wound curios on damnation you get up to 39%* toughness damage reduction from the one modifier alone
it is so easy to upkeep your ulti, giving you procs of guaranteed crits without going crits
o ok
without any extra additive nodes you get %39 tdr from mmartyrdom
I was going off of my 1 toughness 2 wound curio marty build lol
ya u put an asterisk there
nerd
there's a proble mwith martyrdom rn tho
And I have 2 5% toughness dr talents
2 tough 1 +3 stam
3 +tough 3 stam regen 3 gunner resist
You have leeway in and can replace 1 of each with anything you want, I'm just a creature of habit and put x3 gunner res despite diminishing returns
it’s 8 seconds off of a cooldown per proc, right?
they hard fucked us martyrdom players by accidentally making flamers have different properties on explosion
4 seconds at 300%, 12 seconds?
pretty much
ok i wanted to be sure i was doing that match right
@acoustic dune my game crashed lol
if you can upkeep the buff %100 of the time, it's %66.6 percent cdr
it’s because the coding is identical to barrels, the fire is the same as barrel fire
gotta love darktide
so 30 seconds on ultimate is down to 10 seconds
ikr?
if you can just keep up the buff
which you can easily now
with anything that has a bit of crit chance
my favo build rn is martyr ds
give thunder hammer shred
I am running 25 unyielding carapace - riposte precog
I'm of the opinion flamer tank explosions should have 0 negative effects against players
The ground fire? Sure whatever, give it like a 2 second grace before it hurts players, but not the explosion
One stray shot from a teammate can mean you're dead
so, the problem is
It's so dumb
i love crashing every hour
agreed, it needs to either damage toughness first, or just not damage players at all
green flamers exploding -> works like thrown grenade
red flamers exploding -> works like fire barrel
why tf is this the case? fatshark
Im morbidly curious what you run to make Shredder not feel like you're firing a bunch of pissed off bees
wait green flamers are like bombers???

fartshark
you take initial barrel explosion damage
but the fire patch works like a bombmer flame
that’s so weird
Still waiting for Green Flames to give corruption
the weird one is the fire barrel effect
they should work like poxbomber insteam
make green flames super buff enemies they hit
free toughness and blaze away
lmao
despair
Okay that makes sense
Hatred in my soul
Inspiring and Blaze
but yeah
you can get up to %55 crit chance on martyr ds build
while having the god tier horde clear and single target dmg
it actually is bs
I still think piety is a better pick for ds
i thought so as well
So you can forgo a crit chance blessing
then I noticed I actually don't need to crit so much just to upkeep my cdr
I also just hate martyrdom
and the ds cleave damage drops low enough to hit things two times before they die with crits
on lights
keeps up your scourge very well
if you start the crit chain with %25 from base + riposte
or just start it with dash
it becomes a crit ds4 with the dmg boosts and attack spd boosts of marytrdom
here's a recent run we did with dorn for example to get a feel for the dmg numbers
The Thunder Hmamer has the same damage for light and heavy
does that mean i never heavy?
That still requires me to drop thrust precog which I just am not willing to do lmao
Which one are you looking wt
At
completely fair, one shotting things is funny af
but I believe thrust is complete bait
Hammer lights are strikedown
just stabbing twice is more dps compared to thrust stacking
The Thunderhammer?
And heavies are for hordeclear
also gives you more chances to proc crit synergies
since you attack twice instead of once
Yes
Which thunder hammer are you looking at
Crucis or ironhelm
the numbers it displays on the item for heavy and light damage aren't that meaningful
is it a horror type show?
the damage tables are better to look at
Crucis, its the only one in my list
Cuz the crucis light attacks only hit like 1-2 enemies
And the heavies on crucis are side swipes that hit like 10 and have decent cleave damage falloff
the soundtrack sounds pretty good imo
The light and heavy attack damage also only shots the first target damage for the first attack in the combo for both
Which is why you should ignore it and look at this
Its an adaptation of the uzumaki manga
From junji ito
def heard of him
So same damage, just if im doing aoe or single?
martyrdom is different from all other sources of toughness dmg reduction?
its based
it is additive with minor toughness dr nodes
so lets say you grabbed 3 minor nodes
of 5% tdr
you'd have 39 + 15% = 54% tdr
Basically? Light attacks are only ever used to finish off like 1-2 guys remaining, because the real single target damage is from an activated heavy
Damage from melee swings is still more involved than you're trying to make it tho
I LOVE UZUMAKI
very interesting, I think im gonna watch it 
whats the dump stat on the flamer
Colour outta space
This is my hole! It was made for me!
Damage
I was told it's damage
Unironically
oh aight lmao
what's a good second blessing for DS4 on Zealot? Non stealth zealot.
First is Shred.
Currently have Agile, but not sure.
Yeah the difference between 60 and 80 percent is 1 more damage on the hit that applies the burn
uncanny
blaze away is pretty much always good
the new ammo on crit one is fun but not amazing outside of that
thanks
Thunder hammer has the electric power up special move
should i use this regularly or is it more a when I need to stun
neither
it's for big bonkage
So when i horde comes
when I need to kill*
i only really use for the elites in the pack?
elites and bosses
which one are you using
I always need to kiill, one might say regularly
ironhelm can use it for horde clear
uhh i closed my game , default the other one
ironhelm with the speed buff it got is funni vs a mixed horde
ty
idk id go uncanny relentless or thrust precog
power cycler on thunder hammer
you can just spam the shit out of the special now on the hammer
imagine
I find it amusing that between space marine 2 and darktide the thunder hammers have vastly different use cases
yeah ofc
we use 1) human sized thunderhammers
2) trash
rashad is just a broken power axe
my zealot can 1v1 any space marine class from sm2 and win lol
I need a power axe, (or my godamn two handed chain axe)
now do it without talents
I mean a humie t hammer can probably put a space marine down
no second wind = lose
that doesnt count space marines from sm2 are restarted
imagine
it's just actually hitting the space marine with the hammer
a space marine tide game
I am an advocate for thrust precog on piety zealot
Hamdol is an advocate for riposte and precog(?) on martyrdom
He uses either precog or uncanny I think
for piety thrust precog is good for big dick damage, if you wanna lean into crit synergies also go riposte precog
But I'm just assuming
armor pen is good enough on crits to deal with armored enemies in two hits max on zealot
so uncanny is less needed
I am feeling like uncanny is better on vet tho, uncanny precog with +weak and the finesse nodes
uc is better %100 on vet and psyker imo
there's an argument for max power stacking one shot vet tho
Zealot with crit cdr having a 100% rending every 10 seconds at most is just huge
Fuck that, give me a power fist.
i want
did they increase the max toughness on curios? i thought it was 17%, or 17+5
unless you want to cheese dots
I will literally take the godamn chaxe from the mauler and consecrate it myself
17+5
It is exactly that
power axe
two handed chainaxe
force dagger
chain shovel
rock cutter saw
23-5=18
Real
I was drunk when I named them
wtf i had a perfect weapon and the potential changed while i was upgrading
rock cutter saw is for ogryn and zealots but zealots can only use it in the spawn
That’s my excuse
it do be doing that
oh, does pc or a pc mod let you name them i assume?
fatshark pls
I assume it's a rounding bug or smthing
pc mod
There’s a mod yeah
ah fair
yep
hence one of the reasons why I always choose uc on psyker
I've been at work for almost 2 hours and I've not been forced to the register
So I've just been hiding among the aisles and talking here
Employee of the month
cole go back to the register I saw you
I'm not the one running it
Someone else is
I'm currently unshackled
cole unhinged
cole
have you seen the movie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cashback_(film) ?
this looks funky
it is
a fate worse than death
Remember, guys: Eat your vegetables...
what exactly is hit mass?
is that where they go to pray to the grandfather
I’m just getting good views on memes so ima keep on doing them
How heavy the enemy is, making it cost more of your cleave to swing through
Think of it like a budget where the enemy costs cleave according to its hitmass
That buff reduces the cost when active
here's a simple idea to understand hit mass
This is a roundabout way of saying its outclassed heavily on thunder hammers
lets say you have 6 cleave on a weapon's light attack, and you are cleaving through a horde of poxwalkers
a poxwalker has a mass of 1.5 (might be wrong), you attack will go through 4 poxwalkers if you don't have any cleave or power buffs
Thunder hammers have one of the highest cleave capacities in the game
string will go like 6->4.5->3->1.5 -> 0
since you don't have any cleave left after 0, you can't hit the fifth guy
but if you have any boosts to power cleave or stagger the enemy for a mass reduction
you'll say have 7 cleave
7->5.5->4->2.5->1
you hit 5 poxwalkers
Yeah walkers are 1.25
does anyone have a piety build I can copy off of
yeah I knew it was wrong lel
but that's the idea
you can influence the cleave value, or you can influence the mass reduction on the enemy
cleave value is influence by power and cleave increases, and mass reduction is from staggering the enemy or using a blessing for it
No you had your example hitmass not line up with the hitmass of the enemy in the game
Therefore all of your information is incorrect and will be disregarded
for a simple idea this is a lot longer than cole’s explanation
nooooooooooooooooo
whatever these nerds are talking about who cares i just play still get top dmg
based
brunt is missing?
rannick asked for brunt's location on the voxcast
no one knows lmfao
Sure you're top damage
Now watch me damage 8 crushers in a single swing
Realistically you do not need to care about cleave or hitmass on most weapons (axes and chainswords are such exceptions)
Very few benefit from additional cleave because the additional targets you'd hit would recieve very low damage due to its minimum cleave damage value
Brunt is either smoking crack being used to store 3 loafs of bread
perfect strike eviscerator moment...........
Now that's hot
Or was thundercunted onto atoma via the airlock
fair enough, cleave might be one of the most complex topics in the game, just after stagger lol
darktide.jpg
Also just now learning that Assail prioritizes stuff near your cursor
FS, GIVE ME ANOTHER SLOT FOR CLEAVE BLESSINGS AAAAAAAA
Are you using the assail cleave build
Ramp/Shred/PS piety evisc
It's so busted
a man can dream
Perfect strike dclaw parries
No, its a Lawb Gaze build that happens to use psionics because I feel that deny destiny isn't good on it
But it does have all the parts for a psionics assail build
Put the cleave talent on it anyway
It's simply too good with assail to not run it
zawona combyat shshotgun
oh thats similar to what i cooked up with dbarrel
Sadly it showcases that you weren't meant to do sustained fire with special shells

It works really well, but I often fail to load one or fire twice because of input queuing
Me when I cast my ability 5 seconds later cuz it was on cooldown when I pressed it
So it was used when I didn't need it anymore
that’s how it is sibling
This isn't even an assail build it just can do that what the hell
Every game I see 30 shotgunners
And I get excited for scoreboard food
Then yoshi throws the assail
This is why you should just build more into assail lmao
its such a stupid blitz lmao
I just want a lawb build godamnit
thats not even EP or anything
DD is as far as i build for assail
it is simply like that
Psyker needed a buff guys
Tbh I still suck at survivability as psyker
The moment something less than ideal happens I still fold
Fuck it we're going back to this
wait im sorry i literally cannot comprehend this
whats the +3
+3 stamina
2 +17 thoughness
1 +3 stamina
Is it like 1 curio that gives 3 stamina
yes
I’m a bum
Oh yeah, whats the power level to get a not fake +3 stamina
Since they mentioned that vs gunners has diminishing returns what should I run instead
75 and below is a fake +3 stam
we can't see that anymore can't we
oh fuck I just rolled rolling steel with 3 very questionably kitted players
Movesets
Mk4 heavies are only stabs
Mk5 heavies are only overheads
Mk2 alternate between the two
All light attack combos are horde clear
Ds4 is generally the best overall imo
lol with what weapons
5 is best
Mk 2 has a sweep as the second heavy as opposed to the overheads on mk5
Unless im misunderstanding
lawb and ds4
what snipers see trying to shoot the zealot
@coarse birch ready???????????????
Pretty sure it was an overhead and stab
Para was saying that he liked it cuz he could do both
That's what it looked like to me when I was messing with it
Welp... knify had us do the auric maelstrom (3veg)... I did pretty pitifully for damage, but, I managed to at least kill the most diablers... I mean... that and I didn't go down that run, somehow. That was my 1st run in an auric maelstrom... since.... I mean Cole, was the thing you took me and that other person into an auric malestrom? Cause that was the last time I was in one then
Its like a diagonal sweep i suppose you could call it OH
Its a sweep profile though iirc been a while since i checked
lawbringer? ha, interesting
I think joshos still on break idk if you wanna wait for him
I would have done better if I had taken a different melee, I think
I'm not gonna wait for him
ASS vet
Word i will play then
Any decent stealth zealot builds now?
I think... if the things Cole had taken me into were auric maelstrom... then the last time I did one before that was... maybe a year before that lol
I don't do auric maelstroms with full randos... It isn't fun for me :/
Yeah I stop at auric damnation with 3 randos, thats the most I can handle
I also was taught what to do at the end event of mercantile hl-70-04... I didn't know what tf to do for any consistency before that. Granted most of the other times I was on that map I was with full randos <.<
curious to see your build on these with that tree if you get a sec
Turns out all I have to do is camp... :/
lawbringer on psyker ties my brain into a pretzel
What exactly does the grim do in this game
Kill you slowly
slowly builds up corruption at a static amount I think
More exp and money when you finish the mission with it
Slowly adds corruption over time to your team
Dissappears if you die or use it
It does add a chunk of corruption when its picked up
Extra hp and corruption resistance helps with it
I was just wondering why it gave so little corruption compared to vermintide
Never really realized that my corruption was increasing
Yeah... a no hp curio Vet basically gets over half hp in corruption near instantly with 2 grims(if they were picked up at around the same time) <.<'
That fucking sucks lmao
I mean... I run 2 hp curios on my Vet, usually... so that helps <.<
Wait I swear to god that name sounds familiar and not in darktide
Is it the dude in dai dark
I noticed knify was getting triple fucked by even 1 grim, since he didn't have hp curios on his Vet lol
Generally do I use primary or secondary fire with flamer
And is there any scenario where I want to use it outside of clearing hordes
secondary
7/10 auric operative
zealot lobotomite teammate
double dip medicae after I get down from doing obj
steals the med stim in front of me
hit barrel and down me
blame me for not managing health
kill me by shooting poxburster
blame me for team wipe
I wanna kms
Scattershot manstopper, vent on crit ranged, and Gaze
Spam alt shells
get infinite cleave x2 every shell
lawbringer?
works
use it for the speedloader variant
crucian roulette/handcannon
be a cowboy
I'm sure the random will swap terrifying barrage to handcannon mid mission
yes dude
trust me
I only trust John
are you happy now?
with my life
anyone wanna tell me Dump stat for Dueling Sword? and some fun Perks/blessings 🙂
mobility thrust uncanny precog and riposte all good blessings perk , carapace,maniac,flak, unyielding @vast fog
LMAO
Danke!
gods work
I LOVE THRUST PRECOG!!!!!!!
Terrifying barrage, I am an advocate of Agrivovler myself
so this is good?
scrap for plasteel
I personally like cleave damage dunp stat. 60 to 80 cleave damage is like 2-3% difference in flak cleave damage. Literally nothing
I'm too brain rotted to understand the changes to thunder hammer anyone want to explain?
Less stun after hitting and can cleave an extra target with powered attacks
Better dmg to non unyielding, slightly less unyielding dmg
And that silly overhead on special for crucis
Bonk
Silly overhead brings me great joy
It can fucking suck on certain enemies
is there a way to pull out the flamer faster
Throw a tknife at the start of the animation
PRAISE THE EMPEROR
so swap and throw?
Yes
2/2 joining into a loss on rolling steel
RIPBOZO
what perk would you recommend for the curio besides gunner, i was thinking about something like toughness regen or cdr
stamina regen
I watched the ogryn get vored by a burgle and thrown into a daemonhost right as a pogryn spawn in
its current stamina regen, toughness and vs gunner
perfect
this wasn't a maelstrom the director just decided to put 3 monstrosities in the same room in repair
toughness regen works only on coherency right
wait idk anymore
no clue
Toughness regen is coherencey only, not good
toughness it is
is the purgation flamer any good?
wdym purgation
am I stupid
have I been lobotomised too
the flamer
name of the weapon
yes
i was told it was good
trying it out rn and besides for the pull out time its doing good
works for me
take penetrating flame/blaze away
flak/unyielding
the new rending on flamer's excellent
damage dump stat
true
Burn 76%+
so is the last 4% just useless
Yep
HELLO DOUGHTHONY
thats hilarious lmao


What stat you guys dump on the double barrel shotgun
mobility
This new system makes getting perfect weapons trivial
Thank christ
I can just buy as many weapons with mob dumped
instead of spending millions of dockets
collateral -> defense -> mobility -> charge rate/warp resistance
I think I missed something else
i would never dump charge rate
warp resistance yes, especially cause it scales poorly on the rmb staff attacks
i think the sounds for the heavy sword arent satisfying enough for me
queued into a train mission and i joined with 5 seconds left. they weren't even at the part where the medicae was yet
like how are you that slow 😭
Ton of new people jumping into auric
for heavy sword defence is the dump stats right ?
indeed
I wanna see non-hostile / non-comantant enemy forces
like
all we've been fighting is moebian guardsmen
where's their logistics
kinda was a thing on lights out
where's their communications
I wish there was a place where you could find the exact adms for attacks against all armor
that's just fighting mechanics I just wanna see a few troops with vox packs every once in a while
So I can more accurately do math with rending and fotf
or carrying ammo cases
this game could use a loot rat
make them feel like they're real people yk
rn they just stand around with nothing to do
nah, they take cover too
they're smart, they normally just get obliterated before they can do much lol
Ive never seen anyone use it
I've only seen 4 vets plus myself use them
Every class has some type of weird passive
Most people probably doesn't know its a thing
yep, vet can peak over things without getting shot
Yah i never use that shit
at least not instantly
I rember when every1 had back in the day
They quietly removed it from every1 and i stopped using it
any enemy will lock your position eventually, and they will move around to get better angles
you can't peek corners anymore
Every1 had it in the closed beta
its not that useful imo, too many bombers and things that are going to flush you out later
that's too cod for fatshark
it's cute though
basically damnation+ forget about holding anywhere for any amount of time
I dont need cover anyways
I like using it every once in a while
Just stand still and press f and shoot the yellow guys
like on chasm terminus assassination
hide in the higher part during the data reschedule arena
aim down at specialists
turn around and bash a few melee guys
then go back to aiming
yeah its got some very niche uses for holds on maps probably
but again depends on specials, they really dictate where you can stay
vet sort of still has it
it's cute but I wouldn't use it in higher pressure areas
I like using it when entering new rooms too
like that specific part during the consignment yard where you enter and there's that big ballistic shield thing
im basically never standing in one place long enough to shoot from cover
I like shooting down it for fun
i break line of sight and whatnot of course if needed
The Mechanicus would not fw Replikas..
can we give ogryn the ability to throw groaners on a cooldown?
give it a big knock down similar to rock pls
Give ogryn the thing Kerillian had
Has i guess vt2 isnt quite dead yet
I think it was a lvl 15 or 20 talent
vermintide pvp is coming
I can't wait for it
U can dodge through enemies
As shieldmaiden
Except let ogryn walk through chaff
Ridiculous a poxwalker layin on the floor stops a 1 ton Ogryn
Astaghfirullah.
they should let reapers throw poxbursters
like halo infinite lets brutes toss suicide grunts
brute warrior which kind
the new brute berserkers ngl is brutal
tanking skewer shots is insane
id say they kill each other
If this existed
It would be ogryn twbs
Literally mandatory for ogryn
a bullgryn's equipment is worse ngl
brutes have access to full auto grenade launchers
and gravity hammers
Here's what I wonder... I wonder if they're gonna add another mk to the flamer >.>
perks and blessings for crusher?
I do think ogryn should be able to throw dudes, or make a mark of grenade gauntlet that doomfists dudes 30 ft into a wall
im thinking skullcrusher and slaughterer or slaughterer and thrust
there's smth in the files for it I think
but it probably got reused for cosmetic skins
slaughterer and thrust I think
Skullcrusher slaughterer 100%
what would another flamer mark even do
yea nailed the blessings
thrust and scrusher don't work too well together
Watch it be something like... a shorter ranged flamer that actually does damage as well as applying burn stacks(less than the current one tho for the burn stacks per second or w/e it is)
big october update 
Actually... that's be cool, imo
oh from a year ago
most of these parts in the weapon variants got reused for cosmetics and skins
finesse cahxe interesting
probably got used for the branx mastery or smth
hmm?
they were right though
Is this Devil's Claw good? I remember seeing something that any weapon with 55 - 60% damage had around 90% of the maximum weapon damage due to a weird stat display layout.
we got one of them
dump mobility
always dump mobility
never want to dump damage
only on flamers
basically, scrusher debuff only gives you that bonus damage if the target is staggered, fully charging thrust is enough time for a crusher to recover from stagger unless it's a full ass knocking
it's not that hard to roll a damage dump
Oh boy... here's the other type of lasgun they've been offering me ALL NIGHT INTO THIS EVENING... dump stat being damage... the other version was the dump stat being stability...
it's still completely viable to run both on crusher, i just personally don't like them
well, flamer sure but in general
there's practically no difference between 60 mobility and 80 mobility, whereas damage is perhaps the most important stat
Hey, Lazorr. What would you think of a flamer that applied less burn stacks, but, actually did damage to compensate for it? >.>
Big october update
Melta gun
Eh... that'd be like a longer ranged version :/
yeah I was gonna say this sounds like melta
wtf...
I was thinking like a shorter ranged version of the flamer for it
There's shot-gunny kinds of meltas
hmm idk
Wish we had two handed chain axes
Even if the 2h axe sucked on Bardin IB in v2
I still loved it
wasn't these two in the files at launch
Whats best for double barrel other than manstopper?
Oh wait, I know what we need: An autopistol that fires slower and more accurately
I love me 2h axe..

they finally buffed onehanded chain axe to not be tied for worst dodges in the game
the longlas + the chain axe
both barrels/deathspitter
manstopper+ scattershot combo or deathspitter+both barrels if not running piety
slaughterer dbarrel 
scattershot was what i was figuring
if 2handed chain axes came out they should just disable your dodge function cause fuck u
and make the camera spin 360 whenever you hit something
I mean... it would probably have like... -35% to -25% dodge distance on it and a cap of 2 dodges...
this one's a skin now
3 or 4
3 dodges is plenty for anything
think this one's also a skin
Yah
this is a skin
chaxe was tied with thammer
yea most of these datamined weapons either already got released or got repacked as skins
okay devil's advocate
only thing missing is melta for zealot, longlas for vet, and the 2h chainaxe
it's not because they repacked as skins, it's that when they make skins, they use a variant as a base, even unreleased ones
Yeah, that's why I am saying a 2h chain-axe should only have 2 dodges
I thought the chaxe always 4 dodges
when commissionary first released
Always had*
3-4
which I doubt is happening because those little banners were mined at launch
does anyone know who do the datamining?
can we talk to them?
What about... a 2h devil's claw?
why would you need to tbh? what information are you looking for
bigger than a heavy sword
there's no update recently
They're a reclusive mountain hermit who only sends info via one way carrier pigeon
either no one mined or we don't have anything
do you know hwo strength and slaughter increase damage, like what does strength mean
strength is literally renamed power
tbh I think it's the latter because fatshark got smarter
i'm guessing they changed it to make it differ from vt2 terminology
they only release the cosmetic stuff on patch before it
and power=damage
basically yes, people took datamines as promises and the average person can't fathom just because tox bomber was 2 legs for the longest time doesn't mean it's ready to release way back in year 1
strength = power = damage, cleave, stagger
Actually... scrap that. That sounds too much like a katana :/
same shit you'll have people do with Weapon Customization mod
is there a way to make it work a knife+revolver stealth build? not implying that is impossible or really hard, its just that I suck at building tbh
We don't need fucking katanas in darktide lol
boy that'd bring the weebs in won't it
Yeah... do you really want a horde of weebs invading us...?
Woo less than 30 seconds till new contracts
reincarnated again
bro went from WHFB to AoS to 40k
the contract swap price is too cheap imo
moebian troops is such a fucking filter holy shit lmao how can you not kill a shambler that has just a tiny bit more hitmass
do they have more hitmass?
and it's always a vet or a psyker that goes down to them because they're just damage farming behind people that can actually kill hordes
i thought they just had more health/flak
yeah they have armor
Hey, look guys! Melk has something to trigger all the ocd folks!
what should I do with the flip shovel
WTF LET ME JUST PLASMA OR PURG STAFF THEM TO DEATH
i dont think they have more health
they just have flak body unarmored head
i think they have 500
they might
opposed to 300 of groaners
I'm gonna kill this guy
but poxers have 500
they don't feel like that but maybe that's cause i optimize for bruisers anyways
so having mini scab bruisers as horde doesn't bother me
Yeah I've been getting that shit since last night lol
does anyone know the blessing to the flip shovel?
Those bastards make my sword feel like a pool noddle
I haven't played flip in a while
and perks?
Case and point
cause a folded hit is 2 hits
perks?
sigh I really want a way to trade diamantine for plasteel/dockets lol
Don't you dare slander orgyns
this I agree with
give them more weapons
I only see kickback / achyls stubbers nowadays
where's the ripper folks?
I don't use that type of stubber, I use the gorgon myself lol
What blessings and perks do you take on the flamer?
all of them
thank you
penetrating flame/blaze away
flak/unyielding
thank you!
me too
how do I reach this fucking breakpoint
W can opener i can do anythin
Do any zealots actually use guns hoard clear I mostly just use my sword for that?
Blaze away and pen flames (or overpressure)
Flak and elites (or carapace)
Pen flames makes armored targets take more damage, and makes you do real damage to crushers, if you don't care about that, just go overpressure for even more damage
Carapace is optional but only an option with pen flames
Dump damage stat
I'm a Mk 5 guy
I was just scrolling up and reading your post on it from earlier today haha, thank you
Wait, they fixed overpressure(finally)?
sniping with ogryn's fun
Perks are basically just more damage against whatever holds out the longest against your flamer lmao
Big rock : )
If you run Pen Flames, then you take Crusher yeah?
the mfing psyker that's barreling everyone

U can burst down snipers reliably with it
min pellet damage on mk v is better
Means more chances 2 hit
Highest damage of all rippers at close range
2-6 health remaining always
I assume you mean carapace, in which it's now an option
Personal preference, I like elites cuz it covers such a wide spectrum, including crushers and flak elites
Carapace, yes
ahhh ok
yeah
makes sense, thank you!
I'm running it with the dueling sword
But carapace is def more viable if you have a melee weapon that's OK to bad at cara damage
ahhh ok
Know what I kinda wonder? I wonder how the recon would pair with the thammer <.<
so with dueling sword, don't need carapace
Again, still personal preference tho
Just like how I take flak/unyielding on almost every melee I have lmao
Just cuz I want to
yeah I saw from earlier when I asked about ds lmao
cole help
ds4 is the best one for zealot?
should I take weakspot or elite
I mean in that case it makes sense cuz cara perk doesn't really hit any breakpoints
And unyielding is boss/bulwark damage
So lol
Can you one shot crushers with x3 thrust and x5 uncanny?
On the fold?
It's either a breeze or you're hard carrying
No in between
Augh
100% correct eitheir I'm sweating or sailing thru
But I don't wanna get up,,,,,,,,,
just launch yourself into aurics
Aurics are smooth sailing 80% of the time
Cuz people solve problems before they happen
It's why I play normal board most of the time
The game isn't fun without a bit of chaos
Rolling steel is 100% a wake up call for people who don't know how to properly melee and manage toughness
i just think its pretty funny lol
im like coaching these dudes, still kinda couldnt stick together lol
we got some of the defusals done, from me doing them, unfortunately they didn't know how to hold against anything significant
i died and they scattered
The people who are most liable to go down are literally voc vets and staff psykers
Two people can carry the match
It's insane
I played w a random as a shieldgryn on auric dam train and stuck a voc vet
i cant do it myself, i mean i probably could if im having that mindset, but they were watching my back lol
Tje other two kept dying
my shout plasma vets have a 100% turnover rate in the first 8 minutes of my lobbies
One person can carry as long as someone of average skill is backing them up
they just dont know how to clear well, probably dont know combos ect lol
is this a pickup?
He did the gizmo and i kept him protected
He killed the boss' shield a w chord
they NEVER get to the end screen
I just finger lightning for days and das
No
I whacked him
such cowardice
whats the dump stat for the shock mauls?
CC on shock maul influences attack speed
Mobility i think
im at the point where if a guy leaves after going down im just going to block him because i do not want to play with such BITCHES
Mobility
Or defences
u stick till the end
Whichever onr it has
Dump stat for all weapons is mobility but keep it about 55% if u can
And if it's not the dump stat it's because there's another dump stat
Never cuz it's important and u need it
Like the flamer dumping damage over mobility
yuh oh guise, ive got a level 14 smite psyker in my auric stg game
When mobility is dumped on a perfect roll it's at 60% which is always enough for max effective dodges
2 day is my rest day ,, no runnies ,, but i dont want 2 get up from my blahaj,,