#zealot-class

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placid fiber
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There, I'm done upgrading my Flamer... I also got mastery level 20 on it as well. :3

fast tiger
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i mean crusher been fantastic but the addition of slaughterer makes it absolutely nutty now

fast tiger
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DPW are things alright at home

subtle cedar
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Crusher has kinda been... idk, a bit too jack of all tradesy for me

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But now it's got the damage to really excel

trail mantle
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I feel very in control with it

placid fiber
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is it just me or is this somewhat similar to the fire wastes camo...?

fast tiger
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every in control kinda worked too

placid fiber
# fast tiger DPW are things alright at home

Yep, it was just what I got for my roll and I am not going to make an 80% mobility 60% damage one unless I get a bunch of extra resources... since I have this flamer already...

frosty herald
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Its a mechanicus camo

fast tiger
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that red the canister has in the shadow is the red I wish they were in the light

placid fiber
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Meh... I feel like putting the 25% unyielding back on it...

trail mantle
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I am uh, not impressed with the mastery 20 skin for most wapons

spare talon
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Not too much of a difference in the end, piety allows for 100% uptime on the attack speed buff from fotf, and the ability gives you a forced 100% rending crit (which is more useful on this cuz you lack rending, its how the damage is so huge) every ten seconds to basically one shot anything
Not to mention having up to 60% crit chance reliably without a crit blessing is massive for a weapon like duelling sword with its like 2.71x or so finesse multi

gilded coral
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whats the dump stat for duelling sword?

placid fiber
stuck sage
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is there something similar to the ogynomicon for other classes if anyone knows?

gilded coral
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ok thank you

nimble fiber
trail mantle
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guess there is a psyker one I didn't know about tho

spare talon
placid fiber
fast tiger
ionic turret
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what are the killer flamer perks/blessings now?

spare talon
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The documents we have are less guides and more detailed information on exactly how things work, but every other class has those too

placid fiber
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Just realized I only had 3 hours before the contracts reset lol

fast tiger
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hasn’t been updated since the patch I don’t think so it’s mostly just good for tips and a few weapon recommendations

spare talon
fast tiger
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or over pressure if you have a melee that can take care of carapace and you don’t wanna double dip

spare talon
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You can skip pen flames if you have 0 interest in damaging crushers tho, and replace it with overpressure

placid fiber
obsidian ore
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I still love the safety of inspiring barrage

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I am undecided between pen flames or blaze away tho

ionic turret
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damage is still the dump yea?

spare talon
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Oh and damage dump stat and at least 76% burn

fast tiger
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yarp

placid fiber
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On the Flamer/Purgatus? Yes, damage is the dump stat

ionic turret
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Perfect, grazi

obsidian ore
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I dump mobil but damage is also a big dump

placid fiber
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Even tho I ended up with a 80% damaage 60% mobility flamer lol

fast tiger
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evidently inferno staff dump stat can be warp resist for those that wanna maintain high warp

stuck sage
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are the thunder hammers any good?

spare talon
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Damage when dumped is a loss of 1 damage on the impact that applies the burn

obsidian ore
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damage being high decreases the time between direct damage stacks -> you inflict brittleness a bit faster

placid fiber
royal vortex
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tearing my skin off atm

fast tiger
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and also purgatus staff has more impact damage compared to flamer (according to someone in here earlier I did not confirm)

obsidian ore
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but it's so marginal whatever

fast tiger
spare talon
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Warp resist is the dump for that staff

placid fiber
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Maybe not a plague ogryn, but, a spawn/daemonhost/assassination boss

ashen pike
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does Blazing Piety have some sort of internal cooldown?

stuck sage
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thanks

nimble fiber
placid fiber
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Jeeze, this blazing piety modifier makes them almost as tanky as marty lol

fast tiger
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(yes)

nimble fiber
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(peak)

placid fiber
spare talon
placid fiber
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And yet they still left this the exact same... aka: a forgettable...

obsidian ore
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Unfortunately it's a multiplicative stack unlike martyr

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but it's still good, basically good balance

spare talon
obsidian ore
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which is unfortunate

placid fiber
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I still can't believe they buffed this. :/

obsidian ore
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better upkeep on fury and %10 more crits is just godly

spare talon
# obsidian ore it %100 is

I've also never thought about this
Does left side stack multiple times for the group
Can you have a full group of left side piety and have a higher total crit chance

placid fiber
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Seems like it was buffed to fit 130 toughness marty zealots or w/e...

obsidian ore
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it doesnt

spare talon
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Shit game

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Uninstalling

obsidian ore
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same

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I should've a long time ago

fast tiger
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Cole no

ember yew
placid fiber
vague depot
fast tiger
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think of all the demonhosts you haven’t poked to death with the DSword

nimble fiber
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cole will u play sm2 now

placid fiber
obsidian ore
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martyrdom is sooo tanky rn

acoustic dune
obsidian ore
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it is, since you can actually go left to get the cdr on crits as well now

placid fiber
# acoustic dune is it?

I mean with 3 wound curios on damnation you get up to 39%* toughness damage reduction from the one modifier alone

obsidian ore
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it is so easy to upkeep your ulti, giving you procs of guaranteed crits without going crits

placid fiber
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wait

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wrong

obsidian ore
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without any extra additive nodes you get %39 tdr from mmartyrdom

placid fiber
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I was going off of my 1 toughness 2 wound curio marty build lol

fast tiger
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nerd

obsidian ore
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there's a proble mwith martyrdom rn tho

placid fiber
spare talon
hard nexus
obsidian ore
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they hard fucked us martyrdom players by accidentally making flamers have different properties on explosion

hard nexus
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4 seconds at 300%, 12 seconds?

obsidian ore
paper harness
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kino

hard nexus
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ok i wanted to be sure i was doing that match right

placid fiber
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@acoustic dune my game crashed lol

obsidian ore
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if you can upkeep the buff %100 of the time, it's %66.6 percent cdr

hard nexus
acoustic dune
obsidian ore
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so 30 seconds on ultimate is down to 10 seconds

placid fiber
obsidian ore
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if you can just keep up the buff

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which you can easily now

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with anything that has a bit of crit chance

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my favo build rn is martyr ds

hard nexus
obsidian ore
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I am running 25 unyielding carapace - riposte precog

spare talon
spare talon
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It's so dumb

acoustic dune
hard nexus
obsidian ore
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green flamers exploding -> works like thrown grenade
red flamers exploding -> works like fire barrel

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why tf is this the case? fatshark

sullen forge
# paper harness

Im morbidly curious what you run to make Shredder not feel like you're firing a bunch of pissed off bees

hard nexus
acoustic dune
obsidian ore
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you take initial barrel explosion damage

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but the fire patch works like a bombmer flame

hard nexus
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that’s so weird

sullen forge
obsidian ore
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the weird one is the fire barrel effect

acoustic dune
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they should work like poxbomber insteam

obsidian ore
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fucking one taps your martyr hp

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you'll die without until death

hard nexus
paper harness
sullen forge
spare talon
sullen forge
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Inspiring and Blaze

obsidian ore
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but yeah

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you can get up to %55 crit chance on martyr ds build

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while having the god tier horde clear and single target dmg

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it actually is bs

spare talon
obsidian ore
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i thought so as well

spare talon
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So you can forgo a crit chance blessing

obsidian ore
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then I noticed I actually don't need to crit so much just to upkeep my cdr

spare talon
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I also just hate martyrdom

obsidian ore
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and the ds cleave damage drops low enough to hit things two times before they die with crits

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on lights

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keeps up your scourge very well

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if you start the crit chain with %25 from base + riposte

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or just start it with dash

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it becomes a crit ds4 with the dmg boosts and attack spd boosts of marytrdom

frosty herald
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Uzumaki soundtrack is out

obsidian ore
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here's a recent run we did with dorn for example to get a feel for the dmg numbers

drowsy latch
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The Thunder Hmamer has the same damage for light and heavy

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does that mean i never heavy?

spare talon
spare talon
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At

obsidian ore
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completely fair, one shotting things is funny af

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but I believe thrust is complete bait

frosty herald
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Hammer lights are strikedown

obsidian ore
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just stabbing twice is more dps compared to thrust stacking

drowsy latch
frosty herald
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And heavies are for hordeclear

obsidian ore
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also gives you more chances to proc crit synergies

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since you attack twice instead of once

spare talon
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Crucis or ironhelm

fading vale
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the numbers it displays on the item for heavy and light damage aren't that meaningful

nimble fiber
fading vale
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the damage tables are better to look at

drowsy latch
spare talon
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Cuz the crucis light attacks only hit like 1-2 enemies
And the heavies on crucis are side swipes that hit like 10 and have decent cleave damage falloff

nimble fiber
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the soundtrack sounds pretty good imo

spare talon
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The light and heavy attack damage also only shots the first target damage for the first attack in the combo for both

spare talon
frosty herald
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From junji ito

nimble fiber
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def heard of him

drowsy latch
ashen pike
stone fern
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its based

obsidian ore
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so lets say you grabbed 3 minor nodes

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of 5% tdr

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you'd have 39 + 15% = 54% tdr

spare talon
south grove
nimble fiber
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very interesting, I think im gonna watch it Hes_Note2

vague depot
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whats the dump stat on the flamer

spare talon
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This is my hole! It was made for me!

spare talon
south grove
spare talon
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Unironically

vague depot
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oh aight lmao

ashen pike
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what's a good second blessing for DS4 on Zealot? Non stealth zealot.
First is Shred.
Currently have Agile, but not sure.

spare talon
vague depot
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thats hilarious

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perks and blessings?

trail mantle
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blaze away is pretty much always good

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the new ammo on crit one is fun but not amazing outside of that

south grove
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flak/unyielding

vague depot
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thanks

drowsy latch
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Thunder hammer has the electric power up special move

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should i use this regularly or is it more a when I need to stun

trail mantle
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neither

rocky nacelle
trail mantle
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it's for big bonkage

drowsy latch
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So when i horde comes

rocky nacelle
drowsy latch
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i only really use for the elites in the pack?

north sedge
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elites and bosses

rocky nacelle
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which one are you using

drowsy latch
north sedge
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ironhelm can use it for horde clear

rocky nacelle
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yea

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ironhelm can get away spamming special in a horde

drowsy latch
trail mantle
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ironhelm with the speed buff it got is funni vs a mixed horde

ashen pike
stone fern
south grove
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power cycler on thunder hammer

trail mantle
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you can just spam the shit out of the special now on the hammer

south grove
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imagine

trail mantle
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I find it amusing that between space marine 2 and darktide the thunder hammers have vastly different use cases

stone fern
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yeah ofc

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we use 1) human sized thunderhammers
2) trash

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rashad is just a broken power axe

obsidian ore
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my zealot can 1v1 any space marine class from sm2 and win lol

trail mantle
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I need a power axe, (or my godamn two handed chain axe)

rocky nacelle
trail mantle
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I mean a humie t hammer can probably put a space marine down

obsidian ore
stone fern
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imagine

trail mantle
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it's just actually hitting the space marine with the hammer

stone fern
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a space marine tide game

spare talon
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He uses either precog or uncanny I think

obsidian ore
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for piety thrust precog is good for big dick damage, if you wanna lean into crit synergies also go riposte precog

spare talon
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But I'm just assuming

obsidian ore
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armor pen is good enough on crits to deal with armored enemies in two hits max on zealot

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so uncanny is less needed

spare talon
obsidian ore
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uc is better %100 on vet and psyker imo

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there's an argument for max power stacking one shot vet tho

spare talon
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Zealot with crit cdr having a 100% rending every 10 seconds at most is just huge

south grove
stone fern
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i want

stuck sage
# paper harness

did they increase the max toughness on curios? i thought it was 17%, or 17+5

polar nexus
trail mantle
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I will literally take the godamn chaxe from the mauler and consecrate it myself

paper harness
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17+5

stone fern
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power axe
two handed chainaxe
force dagger
chain shovel
rock cutter saw

stuck sage
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23-5=18

paper harness
plucky gate
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wtf i had a perfect weapon and the potential changed while i was upgrading

stone fern
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rock cutter saw is for ogryn and zealots but zealots can only use it in the spawn

paper harness
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That’s my excuse

stuck sage
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oh, does pc or a pc mod let you name them i assume?

plucky gate
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fatshark pls

trail mantle
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I assume it's a rounding bug or smthing

paper harness
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There’s a mod yeah

stuck sage
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ah fair

obsidian ore
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hence one of the reasons why I always choose uc on psyker

spare talon
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I've been at work for almost 2 hours and I've not been forced to the register
So I've just been hiding among the aisles and talking here
Employee of the month

obsidian ore
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cole go back to the register I saw you

spare talon
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Someone else is
I'm currently unshackled

obsidian ore
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lmao

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I'll get you next time

polar nexus
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cole unhinged

polar nexus
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cole

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Cashback is a 2006 British romantic comedy-drama film written and directed by Sean Ellis. Originally exhibited as a short in 2004, it was expanded to feature length in 2006. Both versions were produced by Lene Bausager, starring Sean Biggerstaff and Emilia Fox.

rocky nacelle
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br*tish

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🤢

acoustic dune
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boobs

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😊

cunning knoll
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this looks funky

polar nexus
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it is

rocky nacelle
placid fiber
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Remember, guys: Eat your vegetables...

spare talon
cunning knoll
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what exactly is hit mass?

misty nova
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Every enemy has mass

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Every weapon has cleave

lusty oar
frosty herald
spare talon
# cunning knoll what exactly is hit mass?

How heavy the enemy is, making it cost more of your cleave to swing through
Think of it like a budget where the enemy costs cleave according to its hitmass
That buff reduces the cost when active

obsidian ore
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here's a simple idea to understand hit mass

obsidian prairie
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This is a roundabout way of saying its outclassed heavily on thunder hammers

obsidian ore
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lets say you have 6 cleave on a weapon's light attack, and you are cleaving through a horde of poxwalkers

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a poxwalker has a mass of 1.5 (might be wrong), you attack will go through 4 poxwalkers if you don't have any cleave or power buffs

spare talon
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Thunder hammers have one of the highest cleave capacities in the game

obsidian ore
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string will go like 6->4.5->3->1.5 -> 0

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since you don't have any cleave left after 0, you can't hit the fifth guy

remote lark
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second perfect

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🙏

fleet zealot
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internet is back !

obsidian ore
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but if you have any boosts to power cleave or stagger the enemy for a mass reduction

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you'll say have 7 cleave

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7->5.5->4->2.5->1

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you hit 5 poxwalkers

south grove
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does anyone have a piety build I can copy off of

obsidian ore
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yeah I knew it was wrong lel

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but that's the idea

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you can influence the cleave value, or you can influence the mass reduction on the enemy

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cleave value is influence by power and cleave increases, and mass reduction is from staggering the enemy or using a blessing for it

spare talon
# obsidian ore but that's the idea

No you had your example hitmass not line up with the hitmass of the enemy in the game
Therefore all of your information is incorrect and will be disregarded

lusty oar
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for a simple idea this is a lot longer than cole’s explanation

obsidian ore
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nooooooooooooooooo

rocky nacelle
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whatever these nerds are talking about who cares i just play still get top dmg

south grove
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brunt is missing?

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rannick asked for brunt's location on the voxcast

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no one knows lmfao

misty nova
spare talon
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Realistically you do not need to care about cleave or hitmass on most weapons (axes and chainswords are such exceptions)
Very few benefit from additional cleave because the additional targets you'd hit would recieve very low damage due to its minimum cleave damage value

frosty herald
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Brunt is either smoking crack being used to store 3 loafs of bread

rocky nacelle
obsidian prairie
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Now that's hot

frosty herald
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Or was thundercunted onto atoma via the airlock

obsidian ore
lusty oar
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darktide.jpg

obsidian prairie
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Also just now learning that Assail prioritizes stuff near your cursor

misty nova
spare talon
rocky nacelle
spare talon
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It's so busted

rocky nacelle
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a man can dream

spare talon
obsidian prairie
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But it does have all the parts for a psionics assail build

spare talon
obsidian prairie
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I have it

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I want double of infinite cleave

lusty oar
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zawona combyat shshotgun

rocky nacelle
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oh thats similar to what i cooked up with dbarrel

obsidian prairie
rocky nacelle
obsidian prairie
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Sadly it showcases that you weren't meant to do sustained fire with special shells

rocky nacelle
rocky nacelle
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current setup rn

obsidian prairie
spare talon
obsidian prairie
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What the fuck

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this is me just throwing shards until empty

lusty oar
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that’s how it is sibling

obsidian prairie
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This isn't even an assail build it just can do that what the hell

coarse birch
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assail is fair and balanced though

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cant kill stuff

vocal pulsar
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Every game I see 30 shotgunners

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And I get excited for scoreboard food

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Then yoshi throws the assail

spare talon
vocal pulsar
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And I get 1 or 2

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Yoshi gets 28

coarse birch
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its such a stupid blitz lmao

obsidian prairie
coarse birch
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thats not even EP or anything

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DD is as far as i build for assail

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it is simply like that

obsidian prairie
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Psyker needed a buff guys

spare talon
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Tbh I still suck at survivability as psyker
The moment something less than ideal happens I still fold

obsidian prairie
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Fuck it we're going back to this

vague depot
obsidian prairie
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1st line is main stat

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second line is secondary stats

vague depot
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whats the +3

obsidian prairie
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+3 stamina

vague depot
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How am I supposed to have 2 toughness and 3 stamina

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Wait a moment

lusty oar
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2 +17 thoughness
1 +3 stamina

vague depot
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Is it like 1 curio that gives 3 stamina

lusty oar
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yes

vague depot
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I’m a bum

obsidian prairie
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Oh yeah, whats the power level to get a not fake +3 stamina

vague depot
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Since they mentioned that vs gunners has diminishing returns what should I run instead

hard nexus
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75 and below is a fake +3 stam

obsidian prairie
hard nexus
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oh

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yeah i guess we can’t

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sad

obsidian prairie
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Yeah no power

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just overall rating

spare talon
obsidian prairie
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oh fuck I just rolled rolling steel with 3 very questionably kitted players

distant lagoon
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What the difference between dueling swords?

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Which one is better for zealot?

spare talon
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Mk4 heavies are only stabs

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Mk5 heavies are only overheads

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Mk2 alternate between the two

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All light attack combos are horde clear

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Ds4 is generally the best overall imo

ionic turret
paper harness
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5 is best

coarse birch
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Unless im misunderstanding

obsidian prairie
hard nexus
vocal pulsar
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@coarse birch ready???????????????

spare talon
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That's what it looked like to me when I was messing with it

placid fiber
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Welp... knify had us do the auric maelstrom (3veg)... I did pretty pitifully for damage, but, I managed to at least kill the most diablers... I mean... that and I didn't go down that run, somehow. That was my 1st run in an auric maelstrom... since.... I mean Cole, was the thing you took me and that other person into an auric malestrom? Cause that was the last time I was in one then

coarse birch
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Its like a diagonal sweep i suppose you could call it OH

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Its a sweep profile though iirc been a while since i checked

ionic turret
coarse birch
placid fiber
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I would have done better if I had taken a different melee, I think

vocal pulsar
obsidian prairie
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ASS vet

coarse birch
sterile dune
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Any decent stealth zealot builds now?

placid fiber
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I think... if the things Cole had taken me into were auric maelstrom... then the last time I did one before that was... maybe a year before that lol

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I don't do auric maelstroms with full randos... It isn't fun for me :/

sterile dune
placid fiber
ionic turret
placid fiber
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Turns out all I have to do is camp... :/

ionic turret
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lawbringer on psyker ties my brain into a pretzel

vague depot
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What exactly does the grim do in this game

misty nova
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Kill you slowly

placid fiber
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slowly builds up corruption at a static amount I think

spare talon
vague depot
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Oh it’s over time

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That makes sense now thanks

broken walrus
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It does add a chunk of corruption when its picked up

placid fiber
vague depot
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I was just wondering why it gave so little corruption compared to vermintide

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Never really realized that my corruption was increasing

placid fiber
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Yeah... a no hp curio Vet basically gets over half hp in corruption near instantly with 2 grims(if they were picked up at around the same time) <.<'

vague depot
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That fucking sucks lmao

placid fiber
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I mean... I run 2 hp curios on my Vet, usually... so that helps <.<

spare talon
vague depot
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Wait I swear to god that name sounds familiar and not in darktide

vague depot
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Is it the dude in dai dark

placid fiber
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I noticed knify was getting triple fucked by even 1 grim, since he didn't have hp curios on his Vet lol

vague depot
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Generally do I use primary or secondary fire with flamer

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And is there any scenario where I want to use it outside of clearing hordes

south grove
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7/10 auric operative
zealot lobotomite teammate
double dip medicae after I get down from doing obj
steals the med stim in front of me
hit barrel and down me
blame me for not managing health
kill me by shooting poxburster
blame me for team wipe

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I wanna kms

obsidian prairie
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Spam alt shells

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get infinite cleave x2 every shell

obsidian prairie
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Yes

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126 levels, on rolling steel

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FUCK

south grove
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use it for the speedloader variant

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crucian roulette/handcannon

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be a cowboy

lusty oar
lusty oar
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I only trust John

south grove
lusty oar
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with my life

vast fog
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anyone wanna tell me Dump stat for Dueling Sword? and some fun Perks/blessings 🙂

modern lintel
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mobility thrust uncanny precog and riposte all good blessings perk , carapace,maniac,flak, unyielding @vast fog

spare talon
modern lintel
spare talon
obsidian prairie
vast fog
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so this is good?

lusty oar
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scrap for plasteel

vapid sun
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I personally like cleave damage dunp stat. 60 to 80 cleave damage is like 2-3% difference in flak cleave damage. Literally nothing

fast scroll
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I'm too brain rotted to understand the changes to thunder hammer anyone want to explain?

vapid sun
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Less stun after hitting and can cleave an extra target with powered attacks

north sedge
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Better dmg to non unyielding, slightly less unyielding dmg

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And that silly overhead on special for crucis

fast scroll
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Bonk

pine steeple
north sedge
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It can fucking suck on certain enemies

vague depot
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is there a way to pull out the flamer faster

spare talon
south grove
vague depot
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so swap and throw?

spare talon
vague depot
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or throw and swap

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bet

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thanks

sour oxide
#

2/2 joining into a loss on rolling steel

young laurel
#

question

#

is the purgation flamer any good?

vapid sun
vague depot
#

what perk would you recommend for the curio besides gunner, i was thinking about something like toughness regen or cdr

sour oxide
#

stamina regen

south grove
#

I watched the ogryn get vored by a burgle and thrown into a daemonhost right as a pogryn spawn in

vague depot
sour oxide
#

perfect

south grove
#

this wasn't a maelstrom the director just decided to put 3 monstrosities in the same room in repair

vague depot
#

no changes?

#

aight thanks

#

was it toughness or toughness regen

south grove
#

wait idk anymore

vague depot
#

no clue

north sedge
#

Toughness regen is coherencey only, not good

vague depot
#

toughness it is

young laurel
#

is the purgation flamer any good?

south grove
#

am I stupid

#

have I been lobotomised too

young laurel
vague depot
#

the flamer

young laurel
#

name of the weapon

south grove
vague depot
#

i was told it was good

north sedge
#

Flamer is good

#

Always has been

vague depot
#

trying it out rn and besides for the pull out time its doing good

young laurel
#

works for me

south grove
#

take penetrating flame/blaze away

#

flak/unyielding

#

the new rending on flamer's excellent

vague depot
#

damage dump stat

south grove
#

yes

#

dump damage bc cole said so

vague depot
#

true

north sedge
#

Burn 76%+

vague depot
#

bricked

#

80 or bust

north sedge
#

Doesn't matter

#

76 is the last burn stack

vague depot
#

so is the last 4% just useless

north sedge
#

Yep

hushed knoll
#

HELLO DOUGHTHONY

vague depot
#

thats hilarious lmao

hushed knoll
#

Sorry sips

#

Caps

hushed knoll
north sedge
hushed knoll
sharp oyster
#

What stat you guys dump on the double barrel shotgun

north sedge
#

Mobility

#

Really need a gif for that or something

sharp oyster
#

This new system makes getting perfect weapons trivial

north sedge
#

Thank christ

sharp oyster
#

I can just buy as many weapons with mob dumped

#

instead of spending millions of dockets

south grove
#

collateral -> defense -> mobility -> charge rate/warp resistance

#

I think I missed something else

fleet zealot
#

i would never dump charge rate

#

warp resistance yes, especially cause it scales poorly on the rmb staff attacks

full nebula
#

i think the sounds for the heavy sword arent satisfying enough for me

merry flume
#

queued into a train mission and i joined with 5 seconds left. they weren't even at the part where the medicae was yet

#

like how are you that slow 😭

full nebula
#

Ton of new people jumping into auric

silver void
#

for heavy sword defence is the dump stats right ?

full nebula
#

indeed

south grove
#

I wanna see non-hostile / non-comantant enemy forces

#

like

#

all we've been fighting is moebian guardsmen

#

where's their logistics

full nebula
#

kinda was a thing on lights out

south grove
#

where's their communications

full nebula
#

lights out hordes that stay in the dark unless aggrooed

#

Similar

spare talon
#

I wish there was a place where you could find the exact adms for attacks against all armor

south grove
spare talon
#

So I can more accurately do math with rending and fotf

south grove
#

or carrying ammo cases

full nebula
#

this game could use a loot rat

south grove
#

make them feel like they're real people yk

#

rn they just stand around with nothing to do

full nebula
#

nah, they take cover too

south grove
#

yeh

#

the cover thing's cute

full nebula
#

they're smart, they normally just get obliterated before they can do much lol

south grove
#

too bad vet players won't do it

#

vets have cover mechanics

full nebula
#

Ive never seen anyone use it

south grove
#

I've only seen 4 vets plus myself use them

full nebula
#

Every class has some type of weird passive

copper hawk
#

What

#

The cover mechanic?

full nebula
#

Most people probably doesn't know its a thing

#

yep, vet can peak over things without getting shot

copper hawk
#

Yah i never use that shit

full nebula
#

at least not instantly

copper hawk
#

I rember when every1 had back in the day

#

They quietly removed it from every1 and i stopped using it

full nebula
#

any enemy will lock your position eventually, and they will move around to get better angles

copper hawk
#

Idk if u can still peek ariund corners

#

But u could then

#

It was fun

south grove
#

you can't peek corners anymore

copper hawk
#

Every1 had it in the closed beta

full nebula
#

its not that useful imo, too many bombers and things that are going to flush you out later

south grove
#

that's too cod for fatshark

full nebula
#

basically damnation+ forget about holding anywhere for any amount of time

copper hawk
#

I dont need cover anyways

south grove
#

I like using it every once in a while

copper hawk
#

Just stand still and press f and shoot the yellow guys

south grove
#

like on chasm terminus assassination

#

hide in the higher part during the data reschedule arena

#

aim down at specialists

#

turn around and bash a few melee guys

#

then go back to aiming

full nebula
#

yeah its got some very niche uses for holds on maps probably

#

but again depends on specials, they really dictate where you can stay

modern lintel
south grove
#

it's cute but I wouldn't use it in higher pressure areas

#

I like using it when entering new rooms too

copper hawk
south grove
#

like that specific part during the consignment yard where you enter and there's that big ballistic shield thing

full nebula
#

im basically never standing in one place long enough to shoot from cover

south grove
#

I like shooting down it for fun

full nebula
#

i break line of sight and whatnot of course if needed

copper hawk
#

The Mechanicus would not fw Replikas..

south grove
#

can we bring squats to tertium already?

#

ik devs said no already

full nebula
#

can we give ogryn the ability to throw groaners on a cooldown?

#

give it a big knock down similar to rock pls

copper hawk
#

Give ogryn the thing Kerillian had

#

Has i guess vt2 isnt quite dead yet

#

I think it was a lvl 15 or 20 talent

south grove
#

I can't wait for it

copper hawk
#

U can dodge through enemies

#

As shieldmaiden

#

Except let ogryn walk through chaff

#

Ridiculous a poxwalker layin on the floor stops a 1 ton Ogryn

#

Astaghfirullah.

south grove
#

they should let reapers throw poxbursters

#

like halo infinite lets brutes toss suicide grunts

copper hawk
#

Lmfao

#

Who would win in a fight

#

An Bullgryn or a brute warrior

#

A bullgryn*

south grove
#

brute warrior which kind

#

the new brute berserkers ngl is brutal

#

tanking skewer shots is insane

modern lintel
#

id say they kill each other

spare talon
#

Literally mandatory for ogryn

fading vale
#

it should be innate

#

or maybe an extension of bull rush?

south grove
#

a bullgryn's equipment is worse ngl

#

brutes have access to full auto grenade launchers

#

and gravity hammers

placid fiber
#

Here's what I wonder... I wonder if they're gonna add another mk to the flamer >.>

topaz citrus
#

perks and blessings for crusher?

north sedge
#

I do think ogryn should be able to throw dudes, or make a mark of grenade gauntlet that doomfists dudes 30 ft into a wall

topaz citrus
#

im thinking skullcrusher and slaughterer or slaughterer and thrust

south grove
#

but it probably got reused for cosmetic skins

fading vale
#

slaughterer and thrust I think

spare talon
fading vale
#

what would another flamer mark even do

fleet zealot
south grove
#

this was from a year ago

fleet zealot
#

thrust and scrusher don't work too well together

placid fiber
fleet zealot
#

big october update KEKW_ogryn

placid fiber
#

Actually... that's be cool, imo

fleet zealot
#

oh from a year ago

south grove
#

most of these parts in the weapon variants got reused for cosmetics and skins

fleet zealot
#

finesse cahxe interesting

south grove
#

probably got used for the branx mastery or smth

south grove
#

they were right though

split canyon
#

Is this Devil's Claw good? I remember seeing something that any weapon with 55 - 60% damage had around 90% of the maximum weapon damage due to a weird stat display layout.

south grove
#

we got one of them

south grove
fleet zealot
# topaz citrus hmm?

basically, scrusher debuff only gives you that bonus damage if the target is staggered, fully charging thrust is enough time for a crusher to recover from stagger unless it's a full ass knocking

fading vale
#

it's not that hard to roll a damage dump

placid fiber
#

Oh boy... here's the other type of lasgun they've been offering me ALL NIGHT INTO THIS EVENING... dump stat being damage... the other version was the dump stat being stability...

fleet zealot
#

it's still completely viable to run both on crusher, i just personally don't like them

fading vale
#

well, flamer sure but in general

quick ruin
#

there's practically no difference between 60 mobility and 80 mobility, whereas damage is perhaps the most important stat

south grove
#

WHERE ARE THEY

#

HAND THEM TO ME

placid fiber
copper hawk
#

Big october update

placid fiber
fading vale
south grove
#

wtf...

placid fiber
#

I was thinking like a shorter ranged version of the flamer for it

copper hawk
#

There's shot-gunny kinds of meltas

placid fiber
#

Then again

#

I'm crazy <.<

south grove
fading vale
#

hmm idk

copper hawk
#

Even if the 2h axe sucked on Bardin IB in v2

#

I still loved it

south grove
#

wasn't these two in the files at launch

full nebula
#

Whats best for double barrel other than manstopper?

placid fiber
copper hawk
#

I love me 2h axe..

placid fiber
fleet zealot
south grove
#

the longlas + the chain axe

south grove
fleet zealot
#

slaughterer dbarrel pogryn

full nebula
#

scattershot was what i was figuring

fleet zealot
#

if 2handed chain axes came out they should just disable your dodge function cause fuck u

copper hawk
#

Give them 3 dodges

#

Like the thammer

fading vale
#

and make the camera spin 360 whenever you hit something

placid fiber
copper hawk
#

Doesnt the crusher have 4

#

I think in vt2 the great axe had 4 dodges

south grove
#

this one's a skin now

copper hawk
#

3 or 4

fading vale
#

3 dodges is plenty for anything

south grove
#

think this one's also a skin

copper hawk
#

Yah

south grove
#

this is a skin

fleet zealot
south grove
#

yea most of these datamined weapons either already got released or got repacked as skins

south grove
#

only thing missing is melta for zealot, longlas for vet, and the 2h chainaxe

fleet zealot
#

it's not because they repacked as skins, it's that when they make skins, they use a variant as a base, even unreleased ones

placid fiber
copper hawk
#

I thought the chaxe always 4 dodges

fleet zealot
#

when commissionary first released

copper hawk
#

Always had*

fleet zealot
south grove
#

which I doubt is happening because those little banners were mined at launch

south grove
#

can we talk to them?

placid fiber
#

What about... a 2h devil's claw?

fleet zealot
placid fiber
#

bigger than a heavy sword

south grove
shy river
south grove
#

either no one mined or we don't have anything

topaz citrus
fleet zealot
south grove
#

tbh I think it's the latter because fatshark got smarter

fleet zealot
#

i'm guessing they changed it to make it differ from vt2 terminology

south grove
#

they only release the cosmetic stuff on patch before it

topaz citrus
#

and power=damage

fleet zealot
fleet zealot
placid fiber
fleet zealot
#

same shit you'll have people do with Weapon Customization mod

tardy quarry
#

is there a way to make it work a knife+revolver stealth build? not implying that is impossible or really hard, its just that I suck at building tbh

placid fiber
#

We don't need fucking katanas in darktide lol

south grove
placid fiber
#

Woo less than 30 seconds till new contracts

south grove
#

reincarnated again

#

bro went from WHFB to AoS to 40k

#

the contract swap price is too cheap imo

merry flume
#

moebian troops is such a fucking filter holy shit lmao how can you not kill a shambler that has just a tiny bit more hitmass

hard nexus
#

do they have more hitmass?

merry flume
#

and it's always a vet or a psyker that goes down to them because they're just damage farming behind people that can actually kill hordes

hard nexus
#

i thought they just had more health/flak

merry flume
#

yeah they have armor

placid fiber
#

Hey, look guys! Melk has something to trigger all the ocd folks!

south grove
#

what should I do with the flip shovel

merry flume
#

WTF LET ME JUST PLASMA OR PURG STAFF THEM TO DEATH

fleet zealot
#

they just have flak body unarmored head

hard nexus
#

i think they have 500

south grove
fleet zealot
#

they might

hard nexus
#

opposed to 300 of groaners

south grove
#

I'm gonna kill this guy

hard nexus
#

but poxers have 500

fleet zealot
#

they don't feel like that but maybe that's cause i optimize for bruisers anyways

#

so having mini scab bruisers as horde doesn't bother me

placid fiber
south grove
#

does anyone know the blessing to the flip shovel?

fast scroll
south grove
#

I haven't played flip in a while

south grove
#

think it was uncanny + something else

#

thrust?

fleet zealot
#

the rot consumes

#

uncanny thrust, skullcrusher being good as well

south grove
#

and perks?

placid fiber
fleet zealot
#

cause a folded hit is 2 hits

fast scroll
south grove
#

I mean I don't mind it's just it pisses me off a little

south grove
placid fiber
#

sigh I really want a way to trade diamantine for plasteel/dockets lol

copper hawk
#

I want 2 be a felinid..

#

Ogryns r boringggggg..

south grove
#

not even suprised

fast scroll
south grove
#

give them more weapons

#

I only see kickback / achyls stubbers nowadays

#

where's the ripper folks?

placid fiber
#

I don't use that type of stubber, I use the gorgon myself lol

south grove
#

shit

#

I'm like 2 health away from crusher breakpoints

#

is crusher an elite?

stable wing
#

What blessings and perks do you take on the flamer?

violet root
#

all of them

stable wing
#

thank you

south grove
#

flak/unyielding

stable wing
#

thank you!

copper hawk
#

I never use stubber

south grove
copper hawk
#

Hate glugger

#

Ripper ii does everything i need it to

south grove
#

how do I reach this fucking breakpoint

copper hawk
#

W can opener i can do anythin

south grove
#

I'm 2 health away from crusher 1shot

#

I took carapace already

fast scroll
#

Do any zealots actually use guns hoard clear I mostly just use my sword for that?

spare talon
# stable wing What blessings and perks do you take on the flamer?

Blaze away and pen flames (or overpressure)
Flak and elites (or carapace)
Pen flames makes armored targets take more damage, and makes you do real damage to crushers, if you don't care about that, just go overpressure for even more damage
Carapace is optional but only an option with pen flames
Dump damage stat

south grove
stable wing
placid fiber
south grove
#

sniping with ogryn's fun

spare talon
#

Perks are basically just more damage against whatever holds out the longest against your flamer lmao

fast scroll
stable wing
copper hawk
#

U can snipe w the mk ii

#

It's deceptively accurate

placid fiber
copper hawk
#

U can burst down snipers reliably with it

south grove
copper hawk
#

Much like the agri brauto

#

Dont trust the crosshair

#

More pellets w mk ii

south grove
#

how can I do this

#

fuck

copper hawk
#

Means more chances 2 hit

south grove
#

I'm actually flabbergasted

#

I can't get it

copper hawk
#

Highest damage of all rippers at close range

south grove
#

2-6 health remaining always

copper hawk
#

Can opener ogryn

#

Obliterate

#

Does everything

spare talon
stable wing
#

Carapace, yes

#

ahhh ok

#

yeah

#

makes sense, thank you!

#

I'm running it with the dueling sword

spare talon
#

But carapace is def more viable if you have a melee weapon that's OK to bad at cara damage

stable wing
#

ahhh ok

placid fiber
#

Know what I kinda wonder? I wonder how the recon would pair with the thammer <.<

stable wing
#

so with dueling sword, don't need carapace

spare talon
#

Again, still personal preference tho

stable wing
#

ye

#

I'll play around with it

spare talon
#

Just like how I take flak/unyielding on almost every melee I have lmao

#

Just cuz I want to

stable wing
#

yeah I saw from earlier when I asked about ds lmao

south grove
stable wing
#

ds4 is the best one for zealot?

south grove
#

should I take weakspot or elite

south grove
#

thrust precog

spare talon
#

I mean in that case it makes sense cuz cara perk doesn't really hit any breakpoints

#

And unyielding is boss/bulwark damage

#

So lol

spare talon
#

On the fold?

south grove
#

I think I forgot to proc uncanny

#

lemme check again

#

I'm an idiot

opaque pecan
#

Randos make me weep sometimes

#

Feel like I can't play new things at a heresy level

copper hawk
#

Heresy..

#

I should try heresy

#

See if it's as miserable as ppl say it iz,,

spare talon
copper hawk
#

Augh

opaque pecan
copper hawk
#

But I don't wanna get up,,,,,,,,,

hard elbow
#

just launch yourself into aurics

spare talon
#

Aurics are smooth sailing 80% of the time

#

Cuz people solve problems before they happen

hard elbow
#

yep

#

im grinding the event in aurics and its np 99% of the time

full nebula
#

Man talk about timing

#

right now im queued with some randoms thru the party finder

spare talon
#

It's why I play normal board most of the time
The game isn't fun without a bit of chaos

full nebula
#

failed train twice so far

#

ogryns who are worried about whatevers behind lol

spare talon
#

Rolling steel is 100% a wake up call for people who don't know how to properly melee and manage toughness

fleet zealot
#

and pacing

#

and how to be independent

#

and how to cover teammates

full nebula
#

i just think its pretty funny lol

#

im like coaching these dudes, still kinda couldnt stick together lol

#

we got some of the defusals done, from me doing them, unfortunately they didn't know how to hold against anything significant

#

i died and they scattered

spare talon
#

The people who are most liable to go down are literally voc vets and staff psykers

copper hawk
#

Two people can carry the match

spare talon
#

It's insane

copper hawk
#

I played w a random as a shieldgryn on auric dam train and stuck a voc vet

full nebula
#

i cant do it myself, i mean i probably could if im having that mindset, but they were watching my back lol

copper hawk
#

Tje other two kept dying

royal vortex
spare talon
full nebula
#

they just dont know how to clear well, probably dont know combos ect lol

distant crane
#

is this a pickup?

copper hawk
#

He did the gizmo and i kept him protected

full nebula
#

these people are all 100+

#

well over

copper hawk
#

He killed the boss' shield a w chord

royal vortex
#

they NEVER get to the end screen

opaque pecan
#

I just finger lightning for days and das

spare talon
royal vortex
#

go down once, leave

#

immediately

copper hawk
#

I whacked him

royal vortex
#

such cowardice

distant crane
spare talon
#

CC on shock maul influences attack speed

copper hawk
#

Mobility i think

royal vortex
#

im at the point where if a guy leaves after going down im just going to block him because i do not want to play with such BITCHES

spare talon
copper hawk
#

Or defences

royal vortex
#

u stick till the end

copper hawk
#

Whichever onr it has

#

Dump stat for all weapons is mobility but keep it about 55% if u can

#

And if it's not the dump stat it's because there's another dump stat

#

Never cuz it's important and u need it

#

Like the flamer dumping damage over mobility

full nebula
#

yuh oh guise, ive got a level 14 smite psyker in my auric stg game

copper hawk
#

Cuz damage does fuck all

#

I have 2 get up

spare talon
#

When mobility is dumped on a perfect roll it's at 60% which is always enough for max effective dodges

copper hawk
#

2 day is my rest day ,, no runnies ,, but i dont want 2 get up from my blahaj,,