zealot-class

[cunning knoll]

also im dumb, i already had this

why did i even roll for a new knife xd

[frozen kernel]

Your brain prolly saw the 32% and assumed it wasn’t max rolled

[cunning knoll]

nah, it just wasn't upgraded
and i was using a different knife already

[frozen kernel]

Update go crazy

[cunning knoll]

yeah

[broken walrus]

Its always funny when all your stats are at 80 and damage is randomly at like 45% out of 80%

[frozen kernel]

I had a mobility of like 3% on my laspistol before upgrading lol

It was always funny to see something like that in Melk’s shop

[acoustic dune]

you know its a good weapon when the dump stat is less 60 at max

[paper harness]

Deathblow, dump cleave

[sullen forge]

Curious, could the same be said for Veteran, just dump Cleave and use DB

[paper harness]

Cleave targets is completely irrelevant when brutal momentum is on the weapon

[sullen forge]

True

[placid fiber]

Wouldn't that mean one or more of the stats are like... 80.4%?

[paper harness]

No

[placid fiber]

Aw

[placid fiber]

I blame Cole and Dough, then

[queen ferry]

Is there a Zealot guide like the 'Ogrynomicon'?

[placid fiber]

No, but, we can guide you in the right direction here

[queen ferry]

Aight thx 👍

[naive stirrup]

i feel like someone should make one. i would think about it myself if i was good enough at the game or knew literally every weapon zealot has like the back of my hand but yeah i am neither

new @paper harness project

[paper harness]

I am already working on it

[naive stirrup]

course he is LMAO

[placid hedge]

With the addition to tdr on the Stalwart node is it worth taking left side in piety branch?

[naive stirrup]

not really

[placid hedge]

It still sucks you have to take one side or the other

[ashen pike]

Blazing Piety fury is not same as Fury of the Faithful, right?

[naive stirrup]

different buffs

[ashen pike]

ty

[naive stirrup]

piety gives crit chance based on enemies killed and number of crit hits

moar crit = moar crit basically

[ashen pike]

= moar ult as well, I guess. probably 100% uptime on it, I assume?

[naive stirrup]

fury of the faithful gives one singular attack that is 100% crit chance, adds some rending as well, and gives an attack speed boost

[ashen pike]

that +200% cd for 4 sec on crit, ability.

[naive stirrup]

with 50% chance just using scourge and a knife gives enough uptime on fury it's insane

[ashen pike]

it's 10% AS for 10 seconds, and restores 50% toughness too

[naive stirrup]

invocation of death buff pog

[north sedge]

20%

Attack speed

[trail mantle]

what blessings do we run on the heavier las pistol nowadays

ghost + dumdum seems alright

but also thing kinda needs to crit

[acoustic dune]

yes its here

the zealot chat

[ashen pike]

description is lying? Or it's not about fury of the faithful?

[acoustic dune]

you just need to filter the madness and stuff

also the femboyism

[trail mantle]

says 20% on my end

[ashen pike]

oh, rememb ered wrong then, in-game rn.

[acoustic dune]

man i love

what ever tf this is

[trail mantle]

rend on fully charged hit i believe, think it's on the hellbore right?

[acoustic dune]

yeah

oh think i remenber what it is now

[pure hare]

how important is cleave?

[acoustic dune]

i dont really use it

iz nice for horde

i guess

[paper harness]

Irrelevant

[placid fiber]

Malice and Heresy might not be the most interesting difficulties... but they do let me play a little game on them... "Just how many monsters can I 2 shot?" lol

I didn't realize how easy it was to 2 shot heresy monsters, until last night... still can't believe I 2 shotted every monster on that heresy run I did, including the assassination boss(without a +flak damage perk)

[ashen pike]

Zealot was one class I didnt level up before I dropped darktide due to itemization, a year or so ago.
But damn it's fun.
As for ranged weapon options, is double barrel/manstopper/scattershot solid for Fury (left column, in general) melee focused zealot? Or something else?

[north sedge]

That works for db

[hushed knoll]

Dough ily

[acoustic dune]

boiii i love bein out of memory

twice

[blissful frigate]

Man I love building for breakpoints so much fun

Is the fact that stat bars usually aren't whole numbers fucking me over here?

[arctic fiber]

Anything obvious I should swap?

[paper harness]

unarmored

to unyielding

[placid fiber]

Finally, it only took all night and 95% of the dockets I made the whole time as well... but I got it. A perfect caxe for my 3rd zealot. >:3

[spice ravine]

God the loner penance is truly shit

[arctic fiber]

Thanks, wasn't sure if any of the new blessings were worth the jump.

[west trench]

tried increasing the lua heap via command line?

[royal vortex]

i lasted 4 mins in a game with a dude who kept traumaing at my feet

that shit is so annoying

[blissful frigate]

Everlasting flame will also put ammo into your current mag, you won't have to reload it with a crit build

I don't remember if they fixed Overpressure not affecting dot damage though?

[west trench]

everlasting is love

[blissful frigate]

Always keep blaze away though

[lean lark]

pretty important since it just multiplies dmg vs certain armor types, but on duelling sword not as much due to rending/crits

so its fine

[fleet zealot]

Overpressure is fixed yes

[blissful frigate]

cool

[fleet zealot]

Maximum the eepy

[opaque island]

maximum eepy

[acoustic dune]

is that

a bear?

[frosty herald]

What if it was called the thunderhawk tuahship😂😂😂

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/snoop-dogg-outside-outside-your-home-gif-25093912

[trail mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735819155608961044/1096153257497337938/mematicMeme.gif

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrakill-minos-minos-prime-cat-speech-gif-10914291762743563558

[lavish maple]

I LOVE THE NEW TRAIN MISSION I LOVE PLAYING WITH RANDOMS I LOVE WINNING 10% OF THE GAMES AND WE'RE NOT EVEN ON DAMNATION

[ashen pike]

Where did ~~bots ~~randoms get stuck this time?

[lavish maple]

nowhere

just slow the whole time

[placid fiber]

tfw you only get 1 monster to bully...

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[acoustic dune]

the only time stealth zealot sound correct

or any stealth build

[rocky nacelle]

i did the train minigame once

really not that bad as people were complaining about

wasd issue I guess

[acoustic dune]

people are complaining about it?

skill issue

[lavish maple]

no

teammate issue

[acoustic dune]

i like showing my ass to the enemy

while my teamate fuck around

[drowsy latch]

So i've played like 12 hours but ive jumped between Vet, Zea and Psy but i cant tell which one i like, Zea and Vet feel so similar early game and the perk tree is a bit scatter for me to understand their differents othe than "more dmg in x"

Does anyone have a resource that explains the differences better? Since Vet/Zea use the same sort of weapons, where as Psy have their own magic weapons

[acoustic dune]

@rocky nacelle

[sour oxide]

https://packaged-media.redd.it/3xwd9bjsbsrd1/pb/m2-res_720p.mp4?m=DASHPlaylist.mpd&v=1&e=1727647200&s=6f437fe1d46097163967eb50ae5bd6055a95d158

[acoustic dune]

you know whats causing this

[sour oxide]

woof

[acoustic dune]

do that but actually kill it in one shot

[light badge]

Am I remembering incorrectly or did unchained not do well against bosses in vt2?

[sour oxide]

its a dueling sword not a slow ass hammer

[acoustic dune]

use that with the stealth one or smth

[rocky nacelle]

update numeric ui

noob

[sour oxide]

naw ds is awful w/ stealth imo

[drowsy latch]

Does Zealot get access to a full auto aim down sight gun?

[sour oxide]

yes columbus

or whatever they changed the name to

"Braced Autogun"

[drowsy latch]

Thats braced not aim down sight

[rocky nacelle]

.

[frosty herald]

i think i found a bugged helmet pattern

[rocky nacelle]

they changed alot of the weapon names

[paper harness]

It’s stronger with it

[sour oxide]

yeah but the movement feels off to me

[lusty oar]

yes they have infantry autoguns

[drowsy latch]

thanks

[solar gorge]

i want to customize the lenses so bad

[frosty herald]

I need my beaky helmet

[sour oxide]

like Mark VI?

[frosty herald]

Yup

It has leaked alongside the mk 7 helmet

[next warren]

What perks do i want on the flamer? Flak and Maniac?

[naive stirrup]

:3

only lost 2 from start to finish. lost 5 total 3 being joining mid run

[acoustic dune]

is it?

[acoustic dune]

ah ok thanks

https://tenor.com/view/kiss-love-good-morning-gif-13757633283970607331

[pulsar zinc]

shredder autopistol, any ideas for blessings?

[ember yew]

Throw it out.
Otherwise - Flak/Maniac Pinning Fire/Cavalcade or Inspiring Barrage

[acoustic dune]

now why would you want to use that

[pulsar zinc]

because i like to muck with new stuff, and running the revolver for 12 months has gotten tiresome

[placid fiber]

Man, it felt weird bringing the flamer to a mission lol

Especially without throwing knives

[acoustic dune]

go autogun or smth

[pulsar zinc]

i'd rather not, never liked any of them

[ember yew]

Depends on purpose, im using Elites + Unyelding to burn bulwarks + bosses

[acoustic dune]

god i wish we have like a range weapon for the zealot that are just

more knife

[spare dome]

Pinning Fire/Inspiring Barrage or some combo of Pinning/Inspiring/Blaze/Powderburb

[acoustic dune]

or a javelin

[pulsar zinc]

did autopistol get nerfed or something though? i seem to remember it being just fine around launch

[acoustic dune]

did it?

no one really use the thing

[ember yew]

It was

[pulsar zinc]

well that's... why im asking, at launch it was pretty popular

[ember yew]

Its the most shittiest weapon

[pulsar zinc]

now it seems to have extremely disgusted reactions lol

[ember yew]

right now

they forgot to buff it this patch

[acoustic dune]

make it a uzi

[ember yew]

i'l take it

[acoustic dune]

and it would be so good

[spare dome]

it already is an uzi. Its even shitty like a real uzi

[pulsar zinc]

how's the recon rifle for us, any good or just kinda mid without the vet synergy?

[acoustic dune]

nuh uh uzi are cool

[ember yew]

@pulsar zincIf you want similar experience

[acoustic dune]

it was in the terminator

[spare dome]

im still fucking around with the recons but its either the XII or the VI that you want

[placid fiber]

lol they keep offering me this exact stat cap on this gun type... they've offered me it like... 10-15 times since I started playing last night... :/

[ember yew]

@pulsar zincgo Vraks MK5

[lean lark]

was too good, now its pretty mid

[ember yew]

for similar experience, but much stronger perfomance

[lean lark]

usable but the columnus is just a bigger version of it, and better

[ember yew]

its called Vraks mk5

these days

[pulsar zinc]

see i never liked the feels of the autoguns in this game, it's why i've avoided em

though it has been... nearly a year since i used one too

and i can make one with good stats and good blessings now, who knows

eh, fuck it, i'll give one a go

[ember yew]

[pulsar zinc]

Why you gotta roll the ammo like that

[haughty basalt]

is the script count for the event stuck for anyone else? mine has been at 5 when it should be 9 or smth

[fleet zealot]

Wake up

[next warren]

What blessings are you using?

[fleet zealot]

Wifi down

Sad

[drowsy latch]

Chorus of Spiriual Fortitude is a channel heal right?

[ember yew]

This is Vraks mk2, i recommend mk5 first

[fleet zealot]

Have to do infected 21st missions

[pulsar zinc]

see i dont see a mk5 on my list

just mk2 from brunt

[haughty basalt]

ohhh thanks

[ember yew]

Blaze Away + Penetrating Flame (can be swapped with Overpressure or Insp.Barrage)

[winged shuttle]

I tought the same, mission modifiers event is not grim or scripture, but 21st moebian thing

[fleet zealot]

You change marks freely

[pulsar zinc]

Even then i see.. MK II, MK IV, and MK VIII

[fleet zealot]

Go to your inventory and click weapon

Ok good

[ember yew]

@pulsar zincits braced autogun

you need infantry autogun

or whatever its called

[next warren]

I was thinking of a more horde clear with blaze away and Everlasting flame, but your seems more useful

[pulsar zinc]

i see, since those are listed as agripinaa by default so the naming convention confused me

neat.

[ember yew]

everlasting flame sounds better than it actually is, you are also ammo hungry, so if you want better clear, its Blaze Away + Overpressure

[ember yew]

ez

[fleet zealot]

Some Weapons/variants have been renamed

[next warren]

I already have the chainsword for horde clear, your set up seems better overall

I am trying a crit build to spam the middle ult, forgot the name

[fleet zealot]

So some guides may be inaccurate

[next warren]

choir

[lean lark]

its a toughness regen heal yeah

it also grants people under its effects undying, aka the until death effect

[drowsy latch]

is that my health bar ort the blue one?

[lean lark]

blue is toughness

yellow toughness is overtoughness thats gained from chorus and vet shout

[paper harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtNopQkz010

boys.....

[drowsy latch]

yellow?? I see it now

[pale spindle]

Oh no

[ember yew]

you are googling R18 hentai darktide videos again

[fleet zealot]

Wtf am i to do with no wifi 😦

[pulsar zinc]

nothing

no wifi is boring :(

i'm sorry Ames

[broken walrus]

nowadays if I dont have internet, you might as well turn off my electricity

im such a nerd

halp

[gilded depot]

is the immolation grenade penance bugged currently? numbers barely going up

[unkempt olive]

what are the best knife blessings?

[fleet zealot]

Not as far as i know

[paper harness]

riposte precog

[ember yew]

Uncanny Strike, Precog, Riposte

[unkempt olive]

[nimble fiber]

play a story game u always wanted 2 play

[fleet zealot]

The ground fire has to get the kill

[nimble fiber]

if u have it downloaded already

[fleet zealot]

Burn dots from flamer, bleed, and of course normal attacks from you and your team can kill enemies and they wont count

(Immo nade does not apply burn stacks, just a visual effect)

[lean lark]

disdain for duellist is more than a good deal

other way around

duellist instead of disdain isnt even a decision

[paper harness]

insane take from a youtuber

[pale spindle]

"too tight on points"

[paper harness]

common L

[fleet zealot]

No toughness, lets go

[paper harness]

I told him to join maincord so i can out damage him by 200%

[fleet zealot]

Surprised no toughness regen to make loner better

[stone patrol]

Loner aura? More like, waste of points

[pale spindle]

Tbh the talent tree isn't too bad, he could have just ignored going for the right side and get a good crit knife build out and use the rest of the points to get dualist

[fleet zealot]

That would be nice except dragon age inquisition used cloud saves

[pale spindle]

Like yeah loner is cringe but you cna justify it for saving points

[hushed knoll]

BANCDIT NOOOO

BANDIT

[fleet zealot]

Iron and silver iron and silver

[hushed knoll]

Josho just said he thought I said "Bambi"

So I guess your name is Bambi

[fleet zealot]

No it’s not

I am surrounded by the coldest iron and purest silver

[pale spindle]

Something like this:

[hushed knoll]

What

[fleet zealot]

Ur fae antics can no longer harm me

[hushed knoll]

[vague depot]

Is it a good idea to pair dueling sword with the flamer or do I just stick with boltgun/revolver

[trail mantle]

up to you

[fleet zealot]

I wouldnt pair ds4 with boltgun or rev they both do the same thing

[trail mantle]

definetly not a bad call

[fleet zealot]

And you want to path throwing knives anyways

[fleet zealot]

So flamer is great

[trail mantle]

knoif

[paper harness]

MOGGED BY RYKER UNINSTALL

[gilded depot]

just did it with a friend where I sat there as ogryn with a shield and he naded the entire horde, they only died to the grenades and his count went up by 7

[fleet zealot]

Then it is bugged

[pale spindle]

Dualing sword is OK

[trail mantle]

fucken deletes crushers

*just ok

[pulsar zinc]

"No bleeds"

WHO CARES

[vague depot]

Why over flame grenade

[fleet zealot]

Because crit

[vague depot]

Fair enough

[fleet zealot]

Ds4 is the premiere crit weapon

[pulsar zinc]

Throwing knives are stinky :(

i dont like using em

[vague depot]

If it’s throwing knife wouldn’t I want to bring the revolver so I can inherit a blessing that lets my knife one shot a crusher to the head

[pulsar zinc]

is that bug not fixed still?

[pale spindle]

[vague depot]

Youtuber

[paper harness]

Ds4’s scale can reach 45k single hit

[naive stirrup]

just got a perfect roll heavy evis from an e gift

[fleet zealot]

No lmao

[naive stirrup]

let's go

[pulsar zinc]

so uh

if i do go for crit ds4

what blessings? thrust uncanny still?

or the crit chance on dodge

[sullen forge]

Thrust is a bait perk iirc

[naive stirrup]

i forgor what's good on heavy evis, or which mk is better

[fleet zealot]

You have ds4 why do you need to oneshot a crusher

[paper harness]

Nah

[fleet zealot]

When ds4 does it for free?

[paper harness]

Thrust precog

Insane damage

[fleet zealot]

Revolver throwing knife is for shit like chsword

[sullen forge]

Thammer 2.0 shenanigans from that

[paper harness]

I should record a pubbed I-II with it

[vague depot]

I used mk15 since the moveset is really simple and the heavy attack does more damage compared to the other version iirc

[fleet zealot]

Who wants crit but can’t handle a ton of crushers

Mk15 is easier and the heavy 1 is an overhead

[vague depot]

Can dueling sword heavy pierce through hordes or is that just the special attack

[fleet zealot]

I dont think it necessarily does more damage compared to mk3 h1

[vague depot]

I have been lied to once again

[fleet zealot]

Ds4 you want to use lights and Pa for horde

[vague depot]

I mean for situations where there’s a elite in the horde like a rager and I want them dead asap

I tried to heavy them usually but it never seems to land

[pale spindle]

@paper harness i didn't know u were a bot 🤖

[fleet zealot]

Yes then you special heavy shenigans cause you have fast attack speed

[pulsar zinc]

lol

we're all bots

[naive stirrup]

which blessing and perks now
i have no god damn idea

[pulsar zinc]

dead internet theory moment

[pale spindle]

Based Mechanicus: yes

[naive stirrup]

what in the hell

[fleet zealot]

He doesnt run precog so he doesnt know how cracked duelist really gets

[nimble fiber]

ah rip, my condolences

[crimson cradle]

Technically no because if they're bots, they're abominable intelligences

[sullen forge]

I keep getting them on my recommended and I just ignore the video

[crimson cradle]

That's just tech heresy lmao

[paper harness]

Guess I am playing knife in a pub

[vague depot]

I dont really remember sorry maybe flak and maniacs with rampage and shred?

I think bloodthirsty was a option too idk my memory is really bad

[naive stirrup]

it is

[vague depot]

Hurrah

[pale spindle]

Guys

Knife has a 20% backstabs bonus

[royal vortex]

scourge is 2 stacks

[pale spindle]

Dualing sword can't even compete 😔

[ember yew]

Dorn rename when

DornGPT

tm

No Points Duelist Club

[pale spindle]

Tanner Gang rise up

We will fight the bots together ✊🏻

[north sedge]

It does actually

[pale spindle]

I know it's insane

[sour oxide]

what is even happening

zealot needs nuke

[pulsar zinc]

wait

they seriously think that flesh tearer is the god tier and DS is weak because of THAT?

[ember yew]

DS is weak

pls buff FS

[sour oxide]

where is this nonsense

[ember yew]

Dorn is linking Darktide porn again

[pulsar zinc]

y'know this is a really neat and strong buff but also the 2 second duration makes me wonder, is it really always up for when ya want it?

[pale spindle]

When arnt u dodging in this game?

[ember yew]

Most of the time in a fight

[pulsar zinc]

i'm dodging constantly, still feels like a significant amount of time a dodge doesn't count as "Successful" because it was a little early despite making them miss

[sour oxide]

I dont notice it but thats purely anecdotal could just be my play style

[pulsar zinc]

guess i'll give it a whirl

can't hurt

[fleet zealot]

Jfc

Nothing like disconnected from the internet to hate the fuckin everything about the modern game industry

Why can’t i launch d2r offline

It has offline singleplayer!

Me when i get corpos

[pulsar zinc]

wut d2r again? Diablo 2 Remaster or somethin else?

[royal flicker]

Does it matter if you sacrifice green or orange weapons xp wise?

[fleet zealot]

Yea diablo 2 resurrected

[fleet zealot]

Orange is worth more xp iirc, but green is the most efficient if you are target boosting a weapon family

[lean lark]

orange more green less but green is very cheap and efficient for mastery levels

[hard nexus]

it does

[fleet zealot]

But is that more swing typing and the fact mk3 evi cleaves

[hard nexus]

are you talking about mk3 vs mk15?

[fleet zealot]

While mk15 is for single target only

[frosty herald]

Had to solo a ruthless because a french player ragequit after dying twice

[royal flicker]

yea, ive got like 90k plasteel though, so gonna squeeze a bit of those oranges, if you know what I mean

[lean lark]

nah not needed

[frosty herald]

Like chief im not soloing a neuranthrope on assault

[lean lark]

do blues instead

its like 20 blues for mastery 20 rfom 10

or something

[lean lark]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[hard nexus]

h1 cleave damage is so bad it’s not even worth using for hordes, it’s only good for cleaving through to a rager or something similar

[placid fiber]

Aside from the piss poor cloud radius on my flamer(I need to empower it more) this flamer is pretty damn good

[lean lark]

i solod ruthless at lvl 4 on my fourth game yamato. strive for greatness and you shall achieve it.

[lean lark]

oh inferno

🛌

[fleet zealot]

Ahh i wanna play an arpg

So bad

[placid fiber]

This is what my flamer was at in the mission I just did... time to empower it some more so it doesn't suck so much for the cloud radius lol

[fleet zealot]

Apparently you have to log in and play once a month to play d2r offline cause fuck u bobby

I hope ur yacht gets flipped by a whale

[trail mantle]

hmm, what perks for the crusher

[hard nexus]

slaughterer, skullcrusher/thrust

[trail mantle]

perks, I figured those'd be the blessings, though oppertunist may need to be tested, seems like a good blessing

[fleet zealot]

It’s meh

Crusher has high adms

Rending is usually best on low/average adm weapons

Same reason chainaxe doesn’t use thunderous

[trail mantle]

adm?

armor damage?

[hard nexus]

armor damage modifier

/multiplier

it’s multiplier i think

[lean lark]

made up word

the people here are mentally ill

dont worry about it

[hard nexus]

basically the higher it is, the more damage you’ll deal to armor

[trail mantle]

aye, just didn't recognize the shortening

[hard nexus]

yah

[merry flume]

tacaxe worth using now?

i guess yes but idk what to use on it

i wanna use agile with it

[trail mantle]

hmm, fuck it flakiak

[pulsar zinc]

yeah... using te knives again, cant make em work, cant land headshots with em worth jack and they hit for a pittance otherwise

wish they weren't forced on crit tree

[placid fiber]

lol I didn't realize I even completed this until I saw that I had a portrait for it

[merry flume]

brutal momentum agile tacaxe?

[trail mantle]

could be funni

[merry flume]

are there any tac axes that actually cleave multiple heads

[spare talon]

The mk2 heavies have diagonals

[hard nexus]

they aren’t, you can run IJ knife and do well

[vague depot]

can you dodge bullets or is it just sliding

[hard nexus]

dodge

[pulsar zinc]

uhh. no i mean

the throwing knives

[spare talon]

Both

[vague depot]

nice

[misty nova]

Needs timing

[pulsar zinc]

if i want to go crit i waste too many points otherwise

[trail mantle]

and sprinting

[hard nexus]

oh, just take blood redemption and second wind

[trail mantle]

at certain angles

[vague depot]

doesnt that need a perk to do so

[trail mantle]

nope

[vague depot]

or did the perk just enhance it

[trail mantle]

just gotta have stamina

[vague depot]

oh aight

[placid fiber]

Sounds like something that will get someone who isn't very skilled killed... and very quickly as well lol

[hard nexus]

oh ur complaining that u have to take knives with crit builds

i get what u mean

idk i love knives

[placid fiber]

cuz they'll forget they can dodge more and then tank the 4 crusher overheads <.<'

Followed by the bon bon spit

and the daemonhost that aggroed on them

[trail mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-scared-willem-dafoe-gif-17761333

[placid fiber]

With at least 36 and 1/4th reapers

Don't ask about the 1/4th...

[hard nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1110953288259608706/1280020756100677672/caption.gif

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/air-swim-cat-gif-25752697

[placid fiber]

Man... this is getting closer and closer to being at least useable for damnation. :\

[pulsar zinc]

it's weird, i love rocks

[placid fiber]

I'm honestly thinking about putting 10% elites over 25% unyielding

[pulsar zinc]

knives feel terrible to use for me tho

[placid fiber]

Ogryn rocks? :3

[pulsar zinc]

0 targeter, requires a headshot

[trail mantle]

rock has a hell of a lot bigger hit box afaik

[pulsar zinc]

overall feels icky

[plucky gate]

Is using puncture bolt pistol for scourge procs a meme or is it a thing people actually do?

I feel like trying it

[placid fiber]

Knives take a bit of... getting used to. And they aren't for everyone, so some people will just hate them no matter what

[frosty herald]

Can space marine 2 stop removing my pauldron emblem FOR 1 SECOND

[trail mantle]

idk about using it for scourge procs

[pulsar zinc]

if i could hold the g key for like .5 seconds to get a small reticle that'd be great

as it stands i hate em

[trail mantle]

but puncture is quite nice on the bistol

[placid fiber]

After playing my marty build for so long... I'm having to get used to the throwing knives again, since I am taking them with the flamer.

My poor aim isn't helping lol

[nimble fiber]

real yams they always delete my knee emblem 4 some reason

[trail mantle]

I mean I generally prefer stun nades as boring as they are

[merry flume]

the head tapper

[trail mantle]

honestly my metric on how well a game is going is how many times i have to use them

[hard nexus]

they’re 100% accurate, and u have a dot on ur center screen

are you on console or pc

[placid fiber]

I would prefer the flame nades/stun nades... if I didn't completely forget to use nades like... 80-95% of the time... :/

[paper harness]

Did you enjoy it

[hard nexus]

huh

oh

no.

[placid fiber]

Even on my Vet I forget to use the nades lol

[trail mantle]

controller knives seem like a pain

[hard nexus]

that shit is evil

[paper harness]

I left him on read

[hard nexus]

read??? i would’ve reported him

[frosty herald]

Since when does taxe have agile

[paper harness]

Can’t even post it in here

[hard nexus]

since now

i added it

[placid fiber]

The only thing that makes me remember them is when a monster spawns, in which I throw all of them at the monster on my Vet >.>'

[trail mantle]

I am good about using kraks

[placid fiber]

Kraks are easier for me to remember

[pulsar zinc]

I mean if you ignore any sort of dropoff sure i guess

[trail mantle]

literally never used smokes but I may need to

had a vet using them and they where kinda clutch ngl

[frosty herald]

Shits annoying

[placid fiber]

I have the frag nades on my one vet build cuz I have 0 extra talent points I can use to have krak nades with the build...

[frosty herald]

Knee emblems are fixed

But certain pauldron combos are fucked

[placid fiber]

Unless I want to remove the mag refill on activating ranged specialist...

[hard nexus]

honestly in most situations, you aren’t going to be needing to account for drop off, knives should be reserved for specials, who will be close

using tknives on snipers though is very fun

[placid fiber]

which I won't, cuz I have a revolver

[nimble fiber]

the game has something against our emblems fr fr

[hard nexus]

i have a bunch of clips of me hitting 40+ meter knives

my current record is 62 meters

[pulsar zinc]

even right in front of me i have to aim above their head most of the time or it hits their chest

so idk what you mean tbh

just had one literally a foot away from me get domed when i aimed above

[hard nexus]

knife drop isn’t noticeable until like 12 meters

and knives have head magnetism

[placid fiber]

So: rate my "psyker" >_>'

[pulsar zinc]

if they have magnetism i can't feel it :/

[placid fiber]

I seem to like putting the psyker insignia on my zealots. Not sure why

[vague depot]

What curios do I run on dueling sword zealot

All I got rn are wounds

[placid fiber]

Toughness, wounds if marty, or maybe stamina

I'm guessing toughness or wounds if marty

[vague depot]

Toughness it is

[hard nexus]

it’s very noticeable, at close ranges you don’t have to be precise at all, i’ve had shots where i’m aiming for a trapper’s shoulder and it hits their head

[placid fiber]

Cause I doubt the duelling sword's push attack is as good as the knife's...

[hard nexus]

my current favorite knife moment though is killing 12 specials with 12 knives

[vague depot]

Substats are toughness and stamina regen with damage res vs gunners right

[hard nexus]

proudest darktide moment in my career

my medal tv was broken though..

:(

[pulsar zinc]

well, idk

have no issues with my revolver headshots due to histcan but the second it's a knife i hit maybe 1/10

[obsidian prairie]

Revolver has a massive head hit box

[pulsar zinc]

well allegedly knives have head magnetism

yet i dont feel it

[vague depot]

Was the bolt gun or the bolt pistol able to stagger bulwark shields

[hard nexus]

revolver hitbox is enormous tbf

[hard nexus]

not allegedly, it was in one of the patch notes a while ago

i could find it if you’d like

[pulsar zinc]

i can also state that i have no issues with melee weapons or most things really, revolver is just the other "precision"

Okay, i get it, it exists

it sure as fuck does not feel noticable enough to make me like these stupid things

[hard nexus]

lmfao

fair enough

[pulsar zinc]

doesn't help that specials are almost always behind like 6 other stringbean assholes and they intercept knives

[obsidian prairie]

Knives are an acquired taste that becomes an addiction

[pulsar zinc]

and still, i'd love the ability to hold G for a moment just to get a line to get a feel for dropoff, the ogryn rock gets it and it feels way easier to get an actual idea of the dropoff when you can visualize it

[median steeple]

Bolter can but I've never tried with the BP since it has limited ammo

[hard nexus]

real

[spare talon]

This is so fucking real

[obsidian prairie]

I tried them once and didn’t like them but tried them more seriously later and then ran them on all my builds

[pulsar zinc]

though really, in general, i'd just rather blitzes and the talent trees be seperate because taking a blitz you hate to save points feels awful. at least on Ogryn i get 2 choices no matter where i'm going

here it's like "oh you want x build? you get y blitz, no takesies backsies"

[spare talon]

I put them on and missed my stun grenades for like a week
Then I would take them on every single build I have

And never use any other grenade again

[misty nova]

They were
Bulwark got buffed
They weren't
Bolt type weapons were buffed
They are

[vague depot]

What

[rocky nacelle]

@merry flume https://open.spotify.com/track/0TyV1hm9fz4J9I5QYQAgOc?si=f63308f483c54e93

[nimble fiber]

same for me but with fire nades

they felt so weird after

[pulsar zinc]

they're trying to say that they could, then couldnt after a bulwark buff, then can again after they got buffed

[sour oxide]

this broke my brain

[vague depot]

Ah ok

[pulsar zinc]

Sorry if i came off as rude btw, these things genuinely just frustrate me every time i see a white hitmarker while aiming head height, and it makes me not want to run them and learn them

[obsidian prairie]

For some reason I love nothing but right side blitz’s on everyone but ogryn

[pulsar zinc]

isn't right side vet Smork grenades? or is that middle

[obsidian prairie]

Yes, smokes

[sour oxide]

its okay no one love ogryn anyways

[fast tiger]

smoke grenade enjoyer??

[obsidian prairie]

Love smokes

Smokes are like psyker shields that don’t break and can be used offensively

[vague depot]

Do knives fall down the farther they travel

[sour oxide]

yes

[pulsar zinc]

guess i should just throw a flamer on this build and try to become reliant on my knives or something to brute force learning them

[sour oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[pulsar zinc]

otherwise i'll just keep whipping out my secondary for specials

[fast tiger]

i just like frags so much tbh

smokes seem good but take more finessing

[acoustic dune]

do bolter instead

[pulsar zinc]

rifle or pistol?

[hard nexus]

trust me they’re so worth it to learn

also people get mad in zealot chat all the time

dw about it lmfao

[acoustic dune]

the big one

[nimble fiber]

man I hate olives

[misty nova]

The dropoff is pretty forgiving

[indigo cosmos]

is ironhelm good now or we still rock crucis?

[acoustic dune]

have you tried

adding sardine

[obsidian prairie]

Throwing bricks at you

[obsidian prairie]

Ironhelm was better than Crucis until now

[nimble fiber]

would eat bricks instead of olives ngl

[obsidian prairie]

I don’t know how the current balance sits though

[indigo cosmos]

crucis: headtaker/thrust?

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/174-bpm-cat-vibe-dnb-cat-gif-18035373562603651328

[obsidian prairie]

Or slaughterer thrust

[acoustic dune]

thrust n momentum

[hard nexus]

slaughterer or headtaker, its preference, though i prefer slaughterer

[stable wing]

What's a good build for the Dueling Swords on Zealot?

[indigo cosmos]

what build do you play crucis with, i saw somebody last night saying IJ but I dont like ij :\

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-breakcore-250bpm-breakcore-amen-break-gif-26552382

[obsidian prairie]

Everything except piety

[acoustic dune]

thrust n the crit thing or finese one

[stable wing]

Oh I mean like skill point wise haha

[acoustic dune]

ah

i love me crit build

so eh

yeah

[indigo cosmos]

so crit marty is fine?

[fast tiger]

hammerblow momentum

[acoustic dune]

let me spam chorus

[stable wing]

I was trying to fit in the Faithful Frenzy but can't seem to work it in lol

[acoustic dune]

would you like to see my waxk ass build?

[stable wing]

yes

[fast tiger]

IJ helps with thammers low mobility a lot

[pulsar zinc]

so

boltgun blessings then

[acoustic dune]

hang

[pulsar zinc]

ravaged sounds funny but completely irrelevant

err, puncture, not ravaged

[empty python]

man, guys, anyone getting this issue? the blessings aint showing up for me :/

[hard nexus]

with what build?

[empty python]

sorry, general chat isnt helpful xD

[indigo cosmos]

so if im not running marty should i just stack toughness curios?

[spare talon]

Flak unyielding
Thrust precog

[stable wing]

Just trying to put together a dueling sword build, but I'm not sure what's the most important stuff to put on it.

[pulsar zinc]

Flak? damn i was told fuckin uhhh, cara

[ember yew]

learn them on your operative page Masteries tab

[stable wing]

Not even sure if I NEED Frenzy?

[fast tiger]

Can’t go wrong with toughness, I think people largely do 2 toughness 1 hp but it varies on preference and build

[stable wing]

Oh hell yeah, thank you

[empty python]

I maxed everything already, it's just not showing my blessings to rebless

[hard nexus]

copy epic_cole’s build then, his is good

[stable wing]

awesome

[spare talon]

It's a 2 shot with precog/thrust, 1 if you add fotf on crushers
Carapace perk wouldn't change thay

[hard nexus]

carapace won’t change BPs in any significant way

[empty python]

@ember yew it was actually working until like 1 hour ago

1-2

[stable wing]

let me see

so you just spam light attacks on trash mobs?

[ember yew]

Did you re-check? This happened on day 1, but was fixed already.
Can also try to close the game and login again.

[empty python]

also, the event isnt updating for me

[sour oxide]

coles fav special is a trapper i hear.

[rotund harness]

Anyone wanna help me get auric storm survivor title? Been cucked 4 times by barrles/pixbursters at 3/5 games and I'm about to pull out my hair

[fast tiger]

secret tech is to not get it because if you do people will just assume you cheesed it and you’re a shitter anyway

[sour oxide]

mahaps

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/nigel-marven-prehistoric-park-net-gun-shoot-gun-gif-26543120

[spare talon]

Without a carapace perk I've hit 1 million damage in a scab melee auric mael with duellimg

[stable wing]

Thrust/Precog over Uncanny/Whatever?

[fast tiger]

POV you’re Cole

[acoustic dune]

@stable wing

[sour oxide]

yikes

[acoustic dune]

there

[ember yew]

hentai

[stable wing]

oooo ok thank you

[spare talon]

Basically
With fotf+piety crit cdr, your atk speed buff from fotf is always active
30% attack speed with this build

It's so nice

[stable wing]

Oh hell yeah, that sounds sick

[acoustic dune]

for the occasion i get dogged down

[empty python]

I did, I jsut went on the game again to see, after trying 2 times. The event also isn't updating for me after getting 6 scriptures, it's staying the same :/

[acoustic dune]

can trade it for speed

[empty python]

server issue?

[indigo cosmos]

SO: i'll keep trying IJ thammer, im taking knife blitz, i want to pair a flamer in. what's good on flamer rn?

[acoustic dune]

you rely getting your toughness with chorus

which is neat because you spam the hell out of it

[hard nexus]

blaze away, penetrating flames/overpressure

[misty nova]

What woman calling you pretty does

[hard nexus]

if you take penetrating flames, take +cara

[spare talon]

Also with fotf giving 100% melee rending, you can use it occasionally as your "BIG HIT", which comes back in 10 seconds
This is that build with all buffs stacked and a damage stim

[acoustic dune]

''women''
''trapper''

yeah sure

[misty nova]

[stable wing]

oh that's hot, that's real hot

[plucky gate]

what the
does the game have different rounding on different screens? This is the same gun

[stable wing]

I guess you use thrust over uncanny strike because you hit so hard people stop existing in the coporeal realm

[plucky gate]

it's a 61% and a 60% at the same time

[hard nexus]

rounding errors, they’ll be fixed soon

[acoustic dune]

i got 62 from time to time

maybe its the empeor blessing

[plucky gate]

why is it different on different menus though?

surely they'd use the same rounding function

[stable wing]

oh yeah what ranged weapon do you pair with DS?

[hard nexus]

fatshark

[stable wing]

braced autogun?

[acoustic dune]

its fartshark

[acoustic dune]

i go with bolter

[ember yew]

Well, if you are sure that you have unlocked T4 blessings and they dont appear, could be a server issue or a bug.
You sure you got it unlocked for correct weapon marks/names/class? For me everything works normally.

[acoustic dune]

cause i dont feel like dealing with hordes

[stable wing]

oh man I forgot about bolter lmao

Flak/Maniac, Fire Frenzy/Surgical?

[acoustic dune]

or when i am in a pickle

[stable wing]

or pinning fire?

I'm just a baby zealot

[acoustic dune]

i mag dump

[stable wing]

LOL

[acoustic dune]

fuck aiming

[stable wing]

pinning fire/FF then

[acoustic dune]

i get it out n shoot

[indigo cosmos]

not everlasting flame?

[acoustic dune]

prob this

idk

barely use the thing

[stable wing]

lmao

the BIG GUN

[acoustic dune]

i just see ogryn and they are in a group me shoot

[trail mantle]

pinning fire shattering

or pinning ff

[hard nexus]

you’re rarely ever going to need more than one cylinder for a flamer for any situation

[trail mantle]

pinning fire is just in general really good

[acoustic dune]

i shou.d try that

delete a horde or 2

[frosty herald]

Some people should be banned from playing ruthless

[trail mantle]

so with the double barrel shotty how does one use it

[acoustic dune]

why?

[frosty herald]

This fucking dumbass decides to fight a terminator in the corner

[trail mantle]

I know people take man-stopper and scatter shot on it

[frosty herald]

With the daemonhost firing directly at him

[rough light]

Dueling sword is so good

[placid fiber]

Welp, my cloud radius is now 12% higher and now getting closer to the amount I want... aka 80% cloud radius...

[acoustic dune]

the dhussy firing?

what?

[nimble fiber]

sm2

[acoustic dune]

oh

[trail mantle]

spaece marn

[frosty herald]

Space marine 2

[acoustic dune]

ok

[placid fiber]

sigh so close, yet so far away...

[acoustic dune]

carry on them

[frosty herald]

I ping the stim 5 million times then ignores it

[acoustic dune]

i need to find one with 60 mobility

[broken walrus]

I swear pings dont exist for some ppl

[acoustic dune]

i got one with 60 damage

[acoustic dune]

have you try

[frosty herald]

If i see a single digit player in ruthless ill leave instantly

[acoustic dune]

pinning harder

[acoustic dune]

wtf does that mean

[trail mantle]

ruthless is high diff, single digit is the player level

[nimble fiber]

lvl

[frosty herald]

Under lvl 10

On the highest difficulty

[trail mantle]

be like seeing a level 15 or smthing in damnation

[spare talon]

They're just like the girls who dm me on discord (they want to lock me in their basement) (I wish I was joking people on discord are weird they've tried to find where I live)

[acoustic dune]

that would be funny

and i would ball

[nimble fiber]

I swear they never notice when I ping stims

[acoustic dune]

just use the stim yourself

i hate wasting stim

[nimble fiber]

nah

[acoustic dune]

i just stim them or smth

[nimble fiber]

u sadly cant stim them

[mint brook]

yo, what weapon has the highest damage (not conisdering one time use specials

[obsidian prairie]

What opposing tanners opinions gets you

[nimble fiber]

(sm2)

[acoustic dune]

why is there a stim in sm2

[obsidian prairie]

Depends on the context

[acoustic dune]

is it like space marine size stim

i gotta see this

[nimble fiber]

to heal yourself

[obsidian prairie]

Do you want damage in a single hit no conditions

[placid fiber]

This stupid flamer started at like... 30 something % cloud radius, so it has come a long way x.x

[obsidian prairie]

Or after 3 minutes of buff stacking

[frosty herald]

people are actual lobotomites in ruthless its insane

[empty python]

yeah I got everything unlocked, masteries and blessings and all. My buddy seemed to be able to rebless so idk, it's just me right now ig...

[acoustic dune]

have you tried scrapping your non use weapon?

i have like 4k left now (diamentes)

[nimble fiber]

lobotomite sounds like some sort of crab

[acoustic dune]

well we are all evolving into crabs

[placid fiber]

I did that ages ago lol

[acoustic dune]

you are calling them more evolve

[placid fiber]

I have nothing left that I can scrap for more materials

[nimble fiber]

nah Im evolving into a chocolate milk to then drink myself and die

[acoustic dune]

if you want i could some run to get diamentes with ya

[acoustic dune]

are you a dog?

[placid fiber]

iirc my mastery was only like 11 on the flamer when I started working on this flamer as well

[nimble fiber]

what

[spare talon]

I am swapping between flamer and agrip brauto to find out which I like more

[acoustic dune]

who die from chocky milk

[placid fiber]

Now it's 19

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/DknvOzqQCTo?si=WGANhYu_KgxsFIsa

[spare talon]

With dsword

[acoustic dune]

wait till you trie the hellbore

hate that thing

[trail mantle]

hellbore sights are the fucking worst

[frosty herald]

I wonder if my teammates gain braincells if i switch over to sniper

[nimble fiber]

try it

[placid fiber]

I ain't doing that for a while lol

I'm sticking with the revolver for my Vet

[lean lark]

no

[trail mantle]

thing almost requires the weapon customization mod

[frosty herald]

You shouldve seen it

[acoustic dune]

FART SHARK PREASE GIVE US SCOPE

[lean lark]

just play sniper regardless of teammates

sniper is the best

[acoustic dune]

i love the recon

[trail mantle]

or jsut like, not the worst iron sights i have ever seen

[acoustic dune]

burn

[frosty herald]

My teammate was so fucking dumb

[acoustic dune]

them

[trail mantle]

like i have nerf guns with better irons then it

[frosty herald]

Fought a kopesh terminator in a corner and got a full blast from the daemonhost

THEN GET THIS

[acoustic dune]

its not a iron sight its a metal plate

for scope placement

[trail mantle]

literally is just a top rail

[acoustic dune]

literal ogryn pipe ass iron sight

[frosty herald]

THIS FUCKING DUMBASS DECIDES TO GO UP THE STAIRS DOES A 180 AND CHARGES THE TERMINATOR WITH A CHAINSWORD AND DIES INSTANTLY

[nimble fiber]

very epic

[placid fiber]

For a seconed I thought this was a Vet with a thammer lol

[lean lark]

terminator is what again

[trail mantle]

beeg lad

heavy armor mf

[frosty herald]

I think it was an assault cannon one

[acoustic dune]

i want that but on psycher

[frosty herald]

Making it even dumber

[lean lark]

oh chaos?

[frosty herald]

Yeah

[lean lark]

I mean

Hold on let me pull up the clip

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-jevil-delta-rune-undertale-undertale-memes-gif-25575869

[hallow bane]

ds is bad

[acoustic dune]

so true so true

[trail mantle]

I love my nintendo ds

[paper harness]

Fuck off troll elsewhere

[obsidian prairie]

The instant violence

[trail mantle]

they did lol

[frosty herald]

Actual legend and a fucking dumbass

[trail mantle]

what a pleasant person

[nimble fiber]

lmao

[acoustic dune]

thats funny

[obsidian prairie]

They were tasked by psyker chat to post in all other 3 channels

[paper harness]

Hence the hostility

[lean lark]

Think I had a teammate melee a hive tyrant while they were on low hp

Unfortunately for them, they are not me, and died

[frosty herald]

I absolutely dont know how to handle the hive tyrant

1 teammate is always dead

[lean lark]

it's very easy

[nimble fiber]

,,just dodge"

[lean lark]

he spawns trash at 60% HP

[frosty herald]

And the non melee class is engaging the tyrant with me frantically dodging 5 little dudes

[lean lark]

just stick in-between the two spawn points while he's on the 60% HP mark or nearing it and focus the enemies

the easiest solution is hold onto shock grenades and wipe them with a couple melee and itself

then help with the tyrant

[nimble fiber]

nah but he do be annoying at times when u dodge, but the connection fucks u and u get damaged anyway

[spare talon]

Bait used to be at least a tiny bit believable

[paper harness]

You need to try autopistol is good

With enough conviction people take bait

[lean lark]

It's not connection it's just you probably overestimated the timing

[nimble fiber]

my wifi is rly bad sometimes so could be

[lean lark]

once you figure out the timing no matter the ping you can just dodge all attacks

wish I could play sm2 but the bubble blowers managed to whine loud enough for the devs to make the game way easier

[acoustic dune]

the souless eye of a vile creature

[nimble fiber]

[acoustic dune]

why is it called cole the dolphin

waht da fuck

[nimble fiber]

idk y not

[acoustic dune]

anyhow gaming

https://tenor.com/view/gamer-gif-20482851

[subtle cedar]

I mean, autopistol isn't terrible.... but it's just a worse columnus IA or w/e it's called now

[pulsar zinc]

crispy guardsmen

[mint brook]

anyone got a clue what zealot weapon has the highest base damage if we do not account for the 1 time special uses?

[subtle cedar]

Ummm

[echo furnace]

Atm I don't know it might be the new dueling sword, TH could one shot most things but the DPS I saw a Zealot put out yesterday with the new duelling sword was wild

or it was the tut heavy im not 100% sure

[subtle cedar]

Depends if we're talking no talent/blessing boosts

I'm tempted to say caxe heavies

[echo furnace]

yeah like base damage you'd have to look at all 80 damage rolls and then see without anything else on a gray to know that really.

[spare talon]

Thrust/precog on dsword with duellist and fury of the faithful

[mint brook]

last time i checked, it was the chain axe

[echo furnace]

Thanks it's that it was wild the dps it puts out.

[subtle cedar]

True, maybe ol chaxe lights

[mint brook]

yeah i mean, i need a weapon that has super high damage on its cleaves

[acoustic dune]

melee or range

[mint brook]

chain axe just has that and very stronger single target dps for when i needed it

[subtle cedar]

Eeeeh

[mint brook]

melee

[subtle cedar]

Chaxe cleave isn't great

[acoustic dune]

@spare talon present this man the dc

[subtle cedar]

Is more a horde control weapon than horde clear

[acoustic dune]

or i will with the knife

[mint brook]

i know but back then i managed to make caxe oneshot whatever i hit

[acoustic dune]

with laceration

[spare talon]

The devils claw?

[echo furnace]

Yeah that's the build it beats out everything atm.

[mint brook]

so i just decimated hordes very easily

[paper harness]

@pliant ice staff bash only

[acoustic dune]

yeah your fav

[spare talon]

What about it tho

[subtle cedar]

The best horde clear is heavy sword

For sure

[acoustic dune]

idk shit about this

[subtle cedar]

Caxe close behind i think?

[acoustic dune]

i thought devil claw have good cleave

[subtle cedar]

It does but its damage isn't quite as good

[echo furnace]

Time to take stimmies irl and Darktide time to pimp out a D/sword for my krieglot

[subtle cedar]

Huh, i should try martyr dc

[spare talon]

It has ok cleave, but good cleave damage
Rampage and shred still puts in work overall tho

[subtle cedar]

With how our crit stuff works these days it prolly does crit really quite well

[vague depot]

For dueling sword can I run precog uncanny instead of precog thrust or is thrust just better

[acoustic dune]

i perfer thrust n shred

[subtle cedar]

....can you fotf dc parry?

[spare talon]

with duellist, a fotf parry can one shot a crusher

[subtle cedar]

Excellent

[subtle cedar]

I'll need to try it out

That's not even martyr either

[spare talon]

I currently use a crit build but take ij as the keystone, as shred/scourge is all the crit I need for crit cdr

On dclaw

[trail mantle]

I had been massively underestimating duelist before I came back

[echo furnace]

Thrust is kind of needed I think it was for the TH and I think the whole point of this is that it cleaves through so the thrust counts too? Idk ask @spare talon I never used them legit the only weapon I don't have mastered out.

[subtle cedar]

Damn yeah why didn't i think of martyr dclaw earlier

[obsidian ore]

LIES

[vague depot]

Bat directly to the teeth

[spare talon]

block them before they send their next messages

[subtle cedar]

People kinda didn't believe me when i said it's just a 1.5x damage multi

Way back when

[obsidian ore]

FAKE NEWS

[trail mantle]

well for a long time + crit damage and weakspot damage was fucking terrible

so it is understandble people thought it was bad

[subtle cedar]

I mean yes but it doesn't work like those lol

[spare talon]

But 50% of both for playing the game is nothing to scoff at

[trail mantle]

oh

[gilded coral]

what are good ranged weapons to keep a group of ragers off you?

[spare talon]

Yes it does

[spare talon]

It's just that the value is high enough that it actually matters unlike the perks

[stone fern]

got two pogryn a dh in a non maelstrom

lmao

[echo furnace]

There's a neat guide/spreadsheet with all the multipliers, linear, buffs that stack vs don't ect. . I think it's updated or being updated for any changes/

[fast tiger]

^

[subtle cedar]

Afaik it was still a 50% overall damage increase way back when too tho

[fast tiger]

10% of either crit damage or weakspot damage alone isn’t gonna matter really at all in the average weapon

[trail mantle]

also, how does one use the double barrel

like what's it's purpose

[nimble fiber]

looking cool

[fast tiger]

blows up elites outside of crushers

right roll can one tap ragers and maulers and muties

yes I know mutants aren’t elites

[trail mantle]

so you just take the cleave on crit + crit chance blessings so you can pop groups of them easily?

[spare talon]

Either as a quick draw fuck you to whatever is in front of you
Or a cleaving menace with a crit build via manstopper

[trail mantle]

I see

well, i'll make 2 of them then

what blessings would you use on a non crit set up

[fast tiger]

i like deathspitter both barrels personally for the double shot spam

[trail mantle]

both barrels is pretty cracked as far as I can tell

[acoustic dune]

jesus

the nothing personal

[subtle cedar]

Wait i thought crit damage/headshot damage increase modifiers only apply to the bonus damage you get, while duelist is just 50% of the full damage

[acoustic dune]

move is that

[trail mantle]

I am also starting to be a crusher believeer

thing just holds the damn line

[spare talon]

Nope, duellist is also 50% of the bonus damage of both

[subtle cedar]

Oh the crusher is fantastic now

Huh, i must be misremembering my testing, apologies

[spare talon]

But 50% actually is enough to care on almost every weapon

[fast tiger]

did you test it before they turned it into a finesse weapon

[trail mantle]

refering to how duelist is calculated

[spare talon]

While this is vet, zealots can do this too but have to manually reload without both barrels

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1286877407663357984/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2024-08-01_2-51-20_AM.mp4?ex=66fab63b&is=66f964bb&hm=b216ad777037ededa89f93ebe05afd7e8f13f52408b8a16424c861c793a3692f&

Thrust precog, flak unyielding

[subtle cedar]

No no i'm talking aboit my duelist testing, not the crusher

[fast tiger]

ah