zealot-class

[dim edge]

I had to ask lmao

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/air-swim-cat-gif-25752697

[latent vortex]

they're pretty rare

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/dancingdog-cutepuppy-cuteanimals-cutedog-gif-17832375439683210471

[fading vale]

I still don't understand what the point of a stam curio is especially on zealot

[rocky nacelle]

i can actually block to pick up my bricks team mates easier

[fading vale]

I guess there is that...

[cerulean moth]

I stacked it on zealot to spam knife push attack on bosses for damage

[rocky nacelle]

you only need to do that if you use mk6

[cerulean moth]

Idc it was funny

[rocky nacelle]

im just saying thats the only situation you really need to do that

idc about what you did with it

[plucky gate]

I saw a solo clear ages ago that made use of it because they literally just ran through the entire mission

[opaque island]

it is a horrible feeling to be a half second away from rezzing and getting interrupted. a stamina curio does fix that

[rocky nacelle]

dont ask cole what his curios are on zealot

[cerulean garnet]

how do you get the ironhelm shotgun? was looking at a build and its recommended, but i dont see an assault shotgun option?

[rocky nacelle]

are you level 30

[cerulean garnet]

yep

[rocky nacelle]

do you not see it in brunt's?

[cerulean garnet]

not under ranged options, no

[fading vale]

combat shotgun

[plucky gate]

Do you see other shotguns?

[rocky nacelle]

oh they might have changed the name

[cerulean garnet]

only one i see is agripinaa MK 7

[plucky gate]

you can change between marks so

[cerulean garnet]

and it doesnt have any other marks to it

[tight fog]

double barrel shotgun?

[cerulean garnet]

has 2 others, but not ironhelm

[modern lintel]

playing w my buddy who hasent played since b4 secrets of machine god and this mf has not one single weapon fully mastered

[fast tiger]

i think they renamed it

[fading vale]

the names are so obnoxious now

[fast tiger]

i don’t think it’s called the ironhelm anymore

[shy timber]

I'm struggling with Shocking Stuff. Plz help. Level 30, gear's all orange.

[copper hawk]

Mmm gunshots

[cerulean garnet]

sorry, agrip has marks, the DB doesnt

[placid fiber]

Shotguns are: Slug, spread, and fire rounds

[opaque island]

ive been playing consistently througout the games release and most of my weapons arent either

[placid fiber]

for the special rounds

[copper hawk]

2night might of been the worst run ive ever had

[opaque island]

im not mad

[plucky gate]

the weapon renames fucked me up

[opaque island]

gives me more reason to play a game i enjoy

[copper hawk]

@hard nexus wasnt there 2 protect me..

[fading vale]

I don't think I had anything mastered cause i didn't bother with extracting shit blessings

[cerulean garnet]

yea i just dont see it as an option, the build im looking at is apparently updating for UnL but shrug

[rocky nacelle]

are u good

?

[opaque island]

i think you're right

[north sedge]

No dumbass he's evil

[placid fiber]

So close to perfect... yet so far away...

[rocky nacelle]

good as in ok dough

🙄

[hard nexus]

i was trying…

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-alpha-wolf-alpha-wolf-the-weak-should-quiver-gif-17759401881362908244

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cucuso-trippy-psychedelic-psychedelicguy-crazy-gif-12507069

[fast tiger]

just upgrade it

[placid fiber]

I would... but... <.<'

[shy timber]

I'm struggling with Shocking Stuff. Plz help. Level 30, gear's all orange.

[fast tiger]

felt

[fading vale]

have you sold all your old shit

[fast tiger]

my zealot is not gone dry except for ordos

[placid fiber]

Yep lol

[fast tiger]

but i have like easily 10 god rolls now

[fading vale]

damn

[placid fiber]

Sold or melted for proficiency

[plucky gate]

same bro

i regret all those times i spent millions chasing near-perfect gear pre-update

[rocky nacelle]

I won gambling before the update

[cerulean moth]

BROKE BITCH

[rocky nacelle]

and I win again

[cerulean moth]

BROOOOKKKEEE

[plucky gate]

oh well, won't take that long to build up ordo again

[fading vale]

it's only like what 300-400k to master a weapon from 0

[placid fiber]

And my game crashed lol

[plucky gate]

I just didn't have much going into the update to begin with

I think i had like 1 mill

[cerulean garnet]

@plucky gate the iron helm BECAME the crucis mk XI

[fast tiger]

someone else while you were gone said shattering impact puncture is good

[plucky gate]

wait what?

[fading vale]

It helped getting around 1.2m for selling

[cerulean garnet]

it was a family tree rename for the gun line

the ironhelm "hacker" is the Crucis MK XI shotty

which is why it has no marks either.

[plucky gate]

unfortunately i did my inventory cleanup before the crafting update was announced
and then after they announced it, i stopped playing for months

[cerulean moth]

I’ll fucking kill them

[tight fog]

all the based hoarders are rolling in currency

[placid fiber]

wait you get plasteel back for scrapping orange weapons now?

[fading vale]

because the bolter takes so many shots to kill things duh

[cerulean moth]

PUNCUTRE IS DOGSHIT

[fading vale]

I'm just running FF/pinning and dear god it's so overpowered

[cerulean moth]

What’s ff?

[fading vale]

fire frenzy

[rocky nacelle]

fire frenzy pinning

fire frenzy cavalcade

fire frenzy shattering

bolter can do whatever it wants rn

its great

[fast tiger]

i have it a try, it’s fine

i’ll be going back to pinning fire shattering on my zealot tho

the few bleed bps puncture provides is more relevant on the vet who wants to save bullets and use it like a dmr

[fading vale]

I think I had around 140 elite kills and 100 special kills semi tryharding with that bolter + hammer/tknives

Just feels silly

[copper hawk]

Im fine

If i tell u ud just bully me anyways

[rocky nacelle]

🙄

[copper hawk]

Brocken..

[rocky nacelle]

i would not

always lieful on my name

[fast tiger]

just turn off the screen then

[hard nexus]

oh wait

you meant

like

run as in running

for some reason i thought u meant run as in darktide run lmfao

i am not smart

[fading vale]

shattering just doesn't really do anything for me since idc about killing crushers with it

doesn't help any other enemy at all

[placid fiber]

I didn't realize you got plasteel and diamantine from discarding higher rarity weapons lol

[fading vale]

Yup

[tight fog]

yeah you do it's absolutely poggers

got over 100k plasteel back today

[plucky gate]

So what do you guys do with melk coins now?

just buy shit to discard/sacrifice?

[fading vale]

I spent 7k rolling for a recon lasgun

[tight fog]

not worth to sacrifice for sure

[fading vale]

melk coins are a useless currency now

[fast tiger]

i usually use it as my can opener and boss melter on my zealot and use it with poor armor or poor boss damage melees

i bet pinning ff is fun for mulching mixed hordes and ragers tho

[fading vale]

ye

[placid fiber]

Well since this is the case, I got the caxe capped before I started doing my other character's contracts >.>

[rocky nacelle]

fire frenzy cavalcade shits on everything even without the pinning/shattering

I can only imagine how much fire frenzy hits for

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-laugh-gif-21799013

[rocky nacelle]

with either of those 2 blessings

[twilit blade]

So what does bracing the agripina brauto actually do?

[drowsy steppe]

I use pinning and surg on my exe stance vet

for the bolter

[fading vale]

I could do cavalcade but idk what the reset time is like and I don't often dump a whole mag

surg is a good choice too depending how much you wanna aim or how much you shotgun

[drowsy steppe]

reduce spread when you spraying

[rocky nacelle]

i use bolter as a sprayer so

cavalcade for me

[tight fog]

calva is +25% crit after half the mag

i like pinning i reckon

[fading vale]

I mostly tap fire into elites and click the occasional head while moving, and magdump huge packs of ragers/maulers

[misty nova]

More suppression

[rocky nacelle]

im using bolter when I have piety

so I get more funny crits

for spraying

[fading vale]

yeah i don't run piety

[split canyon]

Thoughts on this fella?

[fading vale]

makes sense

to double up on crit

[rotund shoal]

now that they removed rngambling i have nothing more to spend resources on

[fading vale]

is good, manstopper to full bore or FF/DS

[tight fog]

i cant decide between flac & unyield or flak & maniacs on bolter tho

[fading vale]

I assume burn kills still don't stack on kill blessings for shotty?

I run flak/maniac but I hammer unyielding

[tight fog]

yer

[fading vale]

also why is the crucis overhead so much more fucky to hit monstrosity heads with

[tight fog]

i think ill keep unyielding on melee and go maniacs

[fading vale]

really frustrating

[fading vale]

that issue combined with the special getting canceled when you F sometimes was driving me up a wall on monstrous specials

[fading vale]

this is not ok

[novel forum]

rending flame kinda useless need to test it on monster

[fleet zealot]

i love that fatshark, in all their finest, decided to throw balance out the window

[vague depot]

Spamming click with the dueling sword is starting to hurt my wrist

And I think one of my knuckles

[fleet zealot]

it's good, just not competitively the best

all it does is let you melt crusher packs in a tank

[novel forum]

yea charmed reload is better i think

[fleet zealot]

otherwise OP+BA is better

nah

[fading vale]

Basically only for doing some damage to crushers

[fleet zealot]

i think charmed reload is just a waste of ammo

[fading vale]

it's not for shooting longer, it's for never reloading

[novel forum]

they fixed OP?

[fading vale]

yeah

[novel forum]

finally

[opaque island]

be honest, do you ever magdump into a basic horde?

[rocky nacelle]

on the occasion (yes)

i do not care

[rotund shoal]

you havent lived if you havent

[rocky nacelle]

I want to shoot my bolter

[opaque island]

💪

[fleet zealot]

or a wast eof blessing if not going piety but otherwise, you mostly use flamer in short bursts vs trash, and use the longer stream which will kill all elites besides crushers well before a full tank

[opaque island]

i feel validated

[fleet zealot]

i think it's fun

if that means anything

[rocky nacelle]

not shooting your bolter into a basic horde is a waste

just dont do it everytime

[lunar fable]

[fading vale]

even without piety I noticed i had to reload less often, flamer doesn't really need blessings a ton so it's kinda whatever

[lunar fable]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[sour oxide]

what blessings for bolt pistol?

[opaque island]

I mean the bolter is fun but i dont play zealot to use guns

[rotund shoal]

i actually do

1. you have great melee as fallback if you run out of ammo
2. you can gobble up all the ammo in the mission to annoy the vets/ogryns/gunpsyker

[fading vale]

but it's the best shotgun in the game with the plus side of doing everything else

[split canyon]

Now, how do I increase the stats on a weapon? Like can I level all the stuff up to 80% (Save Cleave which maxes at 59%)?

[opaque island]

👀

[rotund shoal]

hadron

[split canyon]

Empower right?

[rotund shoal]

yes

[split canyon]

Thank you

[rotund shoal]

if youre already running to all the chests for the plasteel just stop pinging the ammo and start taking it

magdump your bolter on every horde

[placid fiber]

... know what's stupid? I have a club and shield on my ogryn that are both lined up for perfect stats...

[rotund shoal]

not the 2nd one

[vague depot]

What blessings do you have on the bolt pistol

[eager gust]

Anyone else get guns over the 380 base stats?

[vague depot]

Lethal and puncture?

[placid fiber]

I could care less whether I had 80% defences or 80% mobility, neither affect damage and I am not losing a dodge

[plucky gate]

only 76% mobility... ur basically a snail

unplayable

[rotund shoal]

all i can hear is "I dont have a perfect weapon so my opinion is irrelevant"

not sure if youre saying something or not

[plucky gate]

would just uninstall at that point

[placid fiber]

I mean I got this >.>

[dense summit]

I'm level 24 and I'm trying to pick a weapon to level, any suggestions?

[fleet zealot]

surgical DA, surgical puncture, or puncture lethal proximity

[vague depot]

How do I choose

Between the 3

[rotund shoal]

i genuinely dont see much difference with lethal proximity

surgical and deathly accurate is probably bis

[fleet zealot]

it's cause the rounds have "safety" on them they won't blow up if you are too close

doing less damage, tho you have to be in that situation

[vague depot]

I’ll try surgical and deathly then

[grizzled aspen]

The selling point of lethal proximity isn't even the fact that your rounds explode before arming distance, it's that it makes your grenades have a larger aoe.

[south grove]

I love that he basically permanently have the joker paint on his face now lmfao

[grizzled aspen]

Run with immolation grenades and you'll cloak the entire battlefield in fire.

[rotund shoal]

fatshark code smh

[eager gust]

Finished my perfect crusher

[vague depot]

Like just passively having a bolt gun with proximity makes my grenades huge?

[ornate bone]

bricked

[vague depot]

That’s all I need to do

[ornate bone]

defense is dump stat

[south grove]

the throwing knife:

[ornate bone]

keep rolling till you get a 60% defense one

[grizzled aspen]

I hate to be that guy, but that's a brick. Defense is your dump stat and, for some reason, power output affects non special attacks.

[fleet zealot]

this is also true

tbh only matters for immo nades

if it even works on them

stun nades are already massive

[grizzled aspen]

Why would you run bolt pistol + tknives though?

[fleet zealot]

ill def drop off lethal prox in mentions in zealot chat

and just surgical DA/Surgical Puncture

[ornate bone]

same reason you run revolver + tknives right?

[grizzled aspen]

I dont though.

[south grove]

because I use one build for everything

[ornate bone]

surgical handcannon applies to knives

[grizzled aspen]

[ornate bone]

so your knives are dealing like 2k dmg to crushers

[lunar fable]

wat

[grizzled aspen]

I know they do, it let's you get crusher 1shots.

[eager gust]

Ahh ok I have one of those so i’ll just upgrade that

[south grove]

yeh

[lunar fable]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-whar-whar-what-cat-whar-cat-cat-whar-slow-blink-orange-cat-whar-slow-blink-gif-6291533950402242103

[south grove]

you can oneshot crushers with it

[ornate bone]

knives inherit blessings, they will one shot crushers

[lunar fable]

what the sigmar

[ornate bone]

simply hold your weapon and your knives will just get the blessings from it

[south grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1259717095382319218/1281987725955825695/attachment.gif

[grizzled aspen]

If you throw a tknife with a guaranteed crit while holding a hand cannon revolver (either type) your knife will have the rending from hand cannon applied to it.

[ornate bone]

60% rending? don't mind if I do

[grizzled aspen]

Cole has a video of him 1tapping a crusher with a tknife.

[lunar fable]

[fleet zealot]

idc i'm not using throwing knives and im not using revolver

i am chad chainaxe user

[vague depot]

Do I need to literally have the weapon in my hand or can it just be equipped

[ornate bone]

yeah, use both

[grizzled aspen]

Has to be in your hand.

[south grove]

#zealot-class message

[ornate bone]

has to be in your hand

[vague depot]

Damn

[grizzled aspen]

Though I'm like 95% sure that point blank also applies to tknives.

I like to run point blank instead of crucian roulette on my agri revolver with a piety build.

Get a melee kill while you've got your crit talents stacked and you can just yeet tknives without having to swap weapons.

[fleet zealot]

ew no

i use uhh

what tf do i use

i forgor

oh yea flamer

[grizzled aspen]

Probably hand cannon and crucian roulette, considering those are BIS for agripinaa revolver.

[ornate bone]

why crucian instead of surgical?

[grizzled aspen]

Because you want to spam out shots on agri.

You don't wait for surgical

I need whatever is in front of me dead NOW.

[fleet zealot]

agri is better with pointblank now that it is fixed

[ornate bone]

yeah but the point of revolver is so you can use your knives

not shoot the gun

[grizzled aspen]

I dont think you're getting the point here.

[hard nexus]

it also inherits uncanny, so you can one shot a crusher with that too

[fleet zealot]

point blank is just 20% and zealot gets melee kills with their melee constantly

[grizzled aspen]

I know.

[lunar fable]

[fleet zealot]

meanwhile crucian has to ramp to it's full bonus and frankly

you want your damage to be frontloaded with revolver

not backloaded

[ornate bone]

only acceptable zealot playstyle is melee weapons and throwing melee weapons

we don't use bullets here

[grizzled aspen]

They need to make point blank last a little longer though.

[fleet zealot]

that's fair

[hard nexus]

flamer 3 times a match

[fleet zealot]

i just don't like crucian

[grizzled aspen]

2s is not a lot of time to draw and fire a lot of bullets.

[hard nexus]

crucian is weird

[fleet zealot]

2.5*

[hard nexus]

i don’t get why people take it

6% per shot in a 5 shot revolver is not much

[ornate bone]

because I didn't have surgical

hadron hates me

[grizzled aspen]

It persists even when you put it away.

Fire 4 rounds, you'll have 4 stacks of crucian roulette when you swap back to your revolver.

[ornate bone]

anyways do you all have any good songs? I need new music

[south grove]

wtf did I just see

[ornate bone]

where did you find this?

why did you find this?

[south grove]

when you browse for warhammer fan arts you'll know what's happening

I wanna look for cool hive ganger art pieces

[ornate bone]

god no I'm staying the fuck away from fan art

[south grove]

warhammer art's always either goated or unhinged

[fleet zealot]

transisitioning would've saved "horus"

[rotund shoal]

Rubicae Estrogenum

[ornate bone]

who knew horus heresy was closeted

[south grove]

@grizzled aspen

[grizzled aspen]

Nice, I got a ledx and a gpu out of sanitars office earlier.

Pulled ~800k rubles out of that raid.

[south grove]

more FMJ for me

more back up SA-58 too

[grizzled aspen]

Killed all 3 of the goons and rashala earlier too.

[south grove]

I die a lot so this is all just for back up

[sinful widget]

Tarkovtide

[grizzled aspen]

Birdeye fucking jumped a corner at mach fuck and shot me like 8 times with bcp fmj and I somehow didn't die.

[south grove]

killa hosed me down with 9mm fmj a while ago

I wanted to kms

[grizzled aspen]

Lmao.

[south grove]

I accidentally killed birdeye once

bro ran into me in a corner and I hosed him down

I ran away immediately

no way I'm dealing with the whole gang

[grizzled aspen]

They aren't that hard to deal with, just gotta keep the basic boss rules in mind.

Don't peak the same corner twice, always keep moving, etc

[south grove]

80% of me is crippled

[grizzled aspen]

Also you won't be killing them without something that deals with class 4 armor easily.

[south grove]

I was on my way to extraction

[fossil kite]

oooh fuck they are in here too

[grizzled aspen]

I was running an ak74u with bt and it still took like 20 rounds to kill knight.

Also drums/fat mags are your friend when dealing with the goons.

[sullen iron]

how do you guys feel about the crusher?

[grizzled aspen]

It was already arguably the best weapon in the game.

[long oasis]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/339155308767215618/1067518248637177908/b9677d85fb81676fb66d6b5de51ae22f8d6630b3.gif

[grizzled aspen]

Now it's better than that.

[long oasis]

you hit things with it and they die sometimes

[south grove]

I'm running a stock SA-58

[long oasis]

10/10

[grizzled aspen]

@south grove do I go to labs?

[sullen iron]

im liking it

[south grove]

PVP?

or SPT

[grizzled aspen]

SPT.

[south grove]

go in

[grizzled aspen]

Current kit is an exfil with ears, comtac 4s, the chunky thor rig with the arm and groin armor, and an ak74u with 3 60r mags of bt.

[south grove]

there's no one killing you from 5km away

[south grove]

I run naked sometimes

[grizzled aspen]

[south grove]

just a boonie and my SA-58

pull up with a FAL

[grizzled aspen]

I need to get more ammo for my sr2m.

It's a beast of an smg and I fuck with the reflex on it.

Even more so than the mpx.

[south grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mYvYvYryaU&ab_channel=DanielHentschel

[placid fiber]

Sweet, I have a perfect pickaxe in the making! >:3

[grizzled aspen]

Erm, it's a 61% defences stat, so something is rounding. 🤓

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

[grizzled aspen]

@south grove behold the 5.45 box that I never touch.

That's like 900 rounds of decent-high quality ammo.

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-the-creator-dance-dance-on-top-of-car-gif-24425779

[grizzled aspen]

Most is bt/pp ammo, the bottom purple is ppbs, the top purple is bs, the top blue is bp, and the bottom blue is 7n40.

[opaque island]

do i want the same blessings/perks? for crucis and Ironhelm

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

Though you could argue for slaughterer over headtaker for ironhelm because the special will instantly stack you up mid horde.

[south grove]

VSS

mmm

they're not too expensive this wipe

maybe

[quick ruin]

anyone else not really see the value behind inexorable judgement? the attack speed is nice and all but with something like the crucius thammer where the horde combo is heavy spam, variable attack speed is hard to take advantage of because of muscle memory

[plush estuary]

☹️

[quick ruin]

at most it's +15 damage and i feel like piety grants more value in terms of raw damage

[plush estuary]

☹️

[rocky nacelle]

@modern lintel https://open.spotify.com/track/0bXRz9BtmEAhDJrldH4jmS?si=47292c8068fb4ae3

[misty nova]

Free attack speed

[quick ruin]

i find it hard to rewire my muscle memory, though

[misty nova]

But martyrdom
Nuh uh
Free attack speed

[rotund shoal]

15% dmg 15% attack speed 15% dodge distance 15% dodge refresh speed

vs 25% crit

[quick ruin]

it adds dodge distance??

[rotund shoal]

yes

also your dodges refresh quicker

[quick ruin]

hmm

[rotund shoal]

it doesnt say that it does but it does

[quick ruin]

i see i see

[copper hawk]

troo

i should just BLOCK para..

[broken walrus]

Piety is a lot better now that invocation of death was changed

[north sedge]

Piety is also not great on hammer

[broken walrus]

feels like Ability comes back super fast

[grizzled aspen]

Doesn't it also straight up give you another dodge?

[north sedge]

Hammer likes power

[rotund shoal]

No

only that one psyker node does that

[misty nova]

Anticipation iirc

[copper hawk]

yah

it doesnt

but it feels like it does

cuz of the refresh speed

[grizzled aspen]

Who up darking they tide?

[copper hawk]

dorn was telling me how he asked roundfish to include all this niche and important detail that is hidden from us for some reason by default to the tooltip

they never got back to him

i don't get why they can't just list these numbers on the keystones

[grizzled aspen]

Writing 2 sentences must be very hard.

[broken walrus]

Is there a word limit on those tooltips? Cuz IJ is pretty long isnt it?

[copper hawk]

seeing people with the enhanced descriptions mod makes me realize like a good portion of talents and keystones have like half of what they do hidden

[grizzled aspen]

They just need someone who can write these out shorter.

[copper hawk]

when you hover over the IJ keystone w the enhanced descriptions mod it fills the box

it's not a UI thing

they can fit it all there, they just don't do it

[grizzled aspen]

Weapon spec could be half the length it is right now if they changed it to a simple bullet list.

[copper hawk]

playing with dorn kinda blackpilled me a bit more about the game

[grizzled aspen]

Easy fix, dont play with Dorn.

[copper hawk]

he told me about a bunch of bugs that still exist in the game that FS knows about but they just dont fix

[grizzled aspen]

Anyway join up you goofball.

Or are you gonna go for your 15km run or whatever.

[ornate bone]

don't do drugs

[copper hawk]

i already did my run

dont rlly want to play w any nya rn

thanks though

[grizzled aspen]

Cringe!

[quick ruin]

toughness, toughness, max health curios or toughness, max health, max health curios?

[copper hawk]

for zeal i run 2 toughness and one max hp

[north sedge]

Toughness

[copper hawk]

with each one having +hp and +tness

i have around 171 tness and 310 hp

more than enough

[plush estuary]

☹️

[copper hawk]

hello mal

my favorite gooner

[edgy forge]

perma

[south viper]

It has been over a year since i played, is this the best my hammer can get? Or is there soemthing more desirable for it?

[spare talon]

defenses dump, unyielding perk, thrust replacing one of those blessings

[north sedge]

Need thrust

[south viper]

okay, thank you. Are you saying defence is a bad stat? And if so, is this weapon done for and should I just keep looking for a better base stat focus?

[north sedge]

It's fine, you just get more attack speed with a higher crowd control stat

You only need 51% defense to maintain dodge count

[vague depot]

Not that it’s bad it’s just that you currently can’t get max (80%) on every single stat so you gotta choose one to keep at 60, in this case defense is the least valued or the bunch

I think

[hoary lake]

kinda annoying to have private match only penances but not being able to do a private match solo

[north sedge]

Also change a perk to carapace for crusher killing

[zinc talon]

I'm prolly way off course but the headgear is from the current store cycle, the chest is the savlar chemsafe or something from The Forbidden Sale that I got that headwrap that hasn't been released yet, and the pants are I want to say Shrivener's

[grizzled aspen]

That look FUCKS, GIMME IT.

[zinc talon]

the skulls on my back are from the yellow backpack that was I want to say on the psucker's page when it was for sale but all smols can use, works great as a power pack on the blue and yellow space marine suits

the savlar coat did eventually hit the store for all four classes but it took em fuckin forever

it's always been flabbergasting to me, that they mistakenly put up an ass backwards store cycle refresh that was all sorts of grabass out of order

when they realized what they'd done they immediately shitcanned it, and then later in the day put up the one they intended to

if you bought what was incorrectly for sale before they killed and replaced it, you kept it

[grizzled aspen]

I want those coats.

I've seen an ogryn with one and it looked super good.

[zinc talon]

but the savlar outfits didn't hit the store for like, six months at least

[copper hawk]

i love the savlar cosmetics

i need 2 use for the drip on them

[zinc talon]

and the headpiece I snagged has never been for sale or been given as a penance or other reward

[copper hawk]

i still dont rlly understand how 2 use it

[zinc talon]

why

why do they have fully functional outfits they accidentally leak themselves

and then take half a year to actually put up

[copper hawk]

lmfao

[zinc talon]

why sit on it for so long

[copper hawk]

who the fuck knows man

[zinc talon]

it makes no sense

especially considering the headgear in question is legit awesome

[rocky nacelle]

I cope everyday

for that headpiece to showup okri

theres a few good chestpieces I want also

[grizzled aspen]

@spare talon give me your knife db vet build pls.

[zinc talon]

the savlar? it finally showed up for all 4 classes, eventually

[sterile stone]

It's called spite

[grizzled aspen]

Also need the db setup you've got, perks + blessings.

[rich linden]

How can you tell if a weapon is going to empower to max or not? Like how do you choose the stat that will be the lowest is it just luck?

[copper hawk]

it's just luck

you'll eventually find one from brunt that has the stat spread you want

[rich linden]

I take it it’s just the lowest number on each weapon is that right?

[copper hawk]

buy like four and the odds are you'll have a god roll

[copper hawk]

when you empower a weapon the stats approach the number on the right

[zinc talon]

the mix and match potential of the headwrap is top tier

[copper hawk]

the number on the left is stat the weapon has at that moment

[zinc talon]

they'd sell a metric fuckton if they released it

[rocky nacelle]

im going 2 consume this

[copper hawk]

the max you can get is 80 on everything except one being 60

[zinc talon]

but unironically a year or more later, still nothing

[copper hawk]

the max total stat score is 280

[zinc talon]

why

[copper hawk]

380*

[rich linden]

Right okay, that makes sense, thanks

[copper hawk]

np

[rocky nacelle]

they dont want us to be great okri

[rich linden]

Wayyyyyyy better than the old system

[copper hawk]

generally you want mobility or defences to be your stat dumps

yah it's so much better lmfao

all of it is

one god roll per mk is just so nice

very little gambling

more grinding

[rich linden]

Is the dump stat you want at 70?

[copper hawk]

the game rewards you for playing

[rich linden]

60*

[copper hawk]

yah

on mobility or defences

[zinc talon]

personally, me being me I like finding gear that has every stat across the board as high as they all can be, like 4 75's and 1 80

[grizzled aspen]

Ogryn names...

[copper hawk]

those two are the dump stats for like all weapons

[zinc talon]

instead of forcing yourself to choose which way your weapon is developmentally disabled

[copper hawk]

well

always the dumpstats for all weapons

if they have those

staves and plasma are special cases

[grizzled aspen]

And revolvers.

Dump reload speed on those.

[copper hawk]

revolver has mobility

60% mobility is like negligible

[grizzled aspen]

Reload speed is even more negligible.

[zinc talon]

they are ** incredibly ** hard to find

[grizzled aspen]

The difference in actual speed between 60-80% reload speed is like a 3% faster reload.

[copper hawk]

as you can see it gets semantical

[zinc talon]

and I'd wager even moreso now

[copper hawk]

mobility is always the dump stat, and in the cases it's not, it's the second dumpstat

but you will NEVER go wrong dumping mobility at 60^

60%

[zinc talon]

since so many weapons end up 4 80 1 60 or as close as they can get to it

[copper hawk]

you wont feel it

sometimes however, mobility and defences can determine dodge caps

[zinc talon]

mobility is not the dump stat on the power maul

[copper hawk]

which is where it matters

[zinc talon]

penetration is

and I will die on that hill cuz I have the math to prove it

[copper hawk]

like ogryn weapons are stupid for this

defences sometimes is the dodge cap

sometimes mobility is the dodge cap

sometimes on weapons with both stats for ogryn it's flip flopped

so just be careful and inspect the wpn b4 u blow ur dockets/milk bucks

i never realized how fun the power maul is

[rocky nacelle]

dump dmg

[copper hawk]

i havent used it since before the buff

[ornate bone]

Suffering

[rocky nacelle]

how good was it that 1 match we were playing

[copper hawk]

the buff to all the ogryn weapons, i mean

[zinc talon]

#ogryn-class message
^thread begins there

[copper hawk]

idr para

i run bm and sc

i imagine that's the bis for the blessings

[rocky nacelle]

i remember you bonking a bunch of stuff

in like 2 hits

[zinc talon]

I'm willing to bet the crusher and perhaps maybe even the thunder hammer are also actually penetration dump stat weapons

[copper hawk]

i was running heavy hitter on it

ogryn is so much fun

[zinc talon]

but I haven't found identical weapons for comparison testing

I had identical pauls with both stats being dumped, so I could with that one

[copper hawk]

okri ur like the ogryn guru

[zinc talon]

heh thank you fren

[ornate bone]

Help I'm being bullied for my hecking button loadout :((

[copper hawk]

what does powering up do w the pmaul

like

it says in that thread u use it to pen armor

is it like the zealot crusher where it's different per attack?

[lusty oar]

bottom

[ornate bone]

It's actually a bottom making fun of me it's funny

[zinc talon]

the crusher detonations do double damage and double radius area on heavy hits versus light ones if t hat's what you mean

pauls are the same for either attack type

but the crusher resets its combo chain like most activation weapons

[ornate bone]

E - Blitz, R - Tag, T - Interact, Scroll wheel - Reload

[zinc talon]

and H1 is an overhead; L1 is a sweep

[ornate bone]

tf is wrong with that

[zinc talon]

so the half sized radius doesn't really matter because you're sweeping horizontally across almost your entire front 180*

it'll catch em all

tthe H1 detonation will stun everything in arm's reach of the target, and send it flying

to give you the time for a follow up or to disengage before what was about to stab you recovers from the stagger

L1 sweeps send everything flying to clear a path for you

so 'half damage on light detonations' doesn't actually mean anything concerning

[hoary lake]

bottom

[stuck cliff]

Guys am I supposed to know who Doran Bot is?

[zinc talon]

cuz you're hitting all umpteen brazilian enemies in front of you

[stuck cliff]

Apparently I was just in a game with him

[zinc talon]

I do not

[stuck cliff]

Someone was going crazy over it in chat

[zinc talon]

https://tenor.com/view/fangirl-crying-gif-21671925

I conned my way into a twins fight night with main author and two contributors of the ogrynomicon way back

that's my fangirling peak

[stuck cliff]

@twin tiger bitch was that you in the game with me just there

[zinc talon]

oh, fun fact

the agni shock maul's attack combo swings are identical to the crusher's combos

if you've used the crusher, you're already good with the agni

[undone pewter]

Fucker.

[zinc talon]

ugggg

[undone pewter]

You are right

I hate that I just went over it in my head

No wonder that fucking mk1 worked so well when I switched crusher for it

They're the god damn same

[zinc talon]

@hard nexus The whole suite for you with name and description

[subtle cedar]

huh

did some testing

opportunist seems to kinda suck

[north sedge]

I like the eyebrows showing through the mask

[tame mirage]

I wish it wasn't broken..

waah

[gilded coral]

what are the recommended curio perks? is toughness regen speed any good?

[zinc talon]

which model you using it on

[subtle cedar]

i was testing it on the crusher

[zinc talon]

for ogryn, it's absolutely one of the best picks for the 3 slots

for zealot, so much toughness regen comes from talents like the dodge or heavy hit kill

that in combat, that's where you're gonna get your fastest recharge

[subtle cedar]

trying to set up a stagger into some light attacks

[zinc talon]

I've used all 3 curios with toughness regen on my zealot, just fine, for a good while a couple months back

they add up

[subtle cedar]

and the amount of time opportunist seemed to kick in for seemed really low

[north sedge]

Toughness regen only affects coherencey, not good. You want toughness hp gunner resist. A sniper resist aint bad either

[zinc talon]

but the slot is better filled with another 3 set that do better work

I would suggest you try toughness regen as a priority to your talents and curios though

if you start piling on the various ways you regen and stay in cohesion they perform just fine

make sure you use toughness curios though

because they increase your absolute toughness number

[spare talon]

this armor set goes so hard without the helmet

im considering getting it

[zinc talon]

and in effect, you regen more toughness per second by having more absolute toughness in total

[zinc talon]

(for legal purposes my lawyers are telling me to say if I am wrong on that point your first mistake was trusting me, I was left unsupervised so whose fault is it really)

that bionic eye is perhaps top 10 best cosmetics you could ever have to use

it's so versatile

[north sedge]

A zealot and coherencey is like oil and water

[grizzled aspen]

Give me your db build smh...

[north sedge]

Plus you're always in melee

[spare talon]

oh right

i was in an auric mael

[zinc talon]

good choice

[gilded coral]

ok thank you for the help!

[zinc talon]

opportunist hasn't blown my skirt up either

[subtle cedar]

thunderous is waaaaaaay better

[spare talon]

this is it for knife

[zinc talon]

you have to have em on the ground for it to start working, and when they're in that state other blesseings do much more work

skullcrusher and yeah thunderous, others besides

[spare talon]

if you want you can swap that elite damage for the weakspot power on ability cast

[grizzled aspen]

Hmm...

I dont like not having a stam delay node...

What curios are you using?

[spare talon]

2 tough 1 stam
3 tough 3 gunner resist 3 stam regen

[zinc talon]

3 ally revives has really been saving the day for me, since you mention

[grizzled aspen]

That's how you're getting away with not having stam regen nodes.

[zinc talon]

but I'm bible thump and stun grenades so rescues are kinda my wheelhouse

[spare talon]

the diminishing returns for the third gunner resist can be swapped for something else, and you dont NEED all of the +5% toughness

since about half the time you have overtoughness anyway which is a flat value

i am just a creature of habit

[zinc talon]

diminiwhat

I swear to god if you drop some knowledge on me about tripling resists

[spare talon]

damage resistances have diminishing returns

[zinc talon]

I will thank you and then

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/561332344053694490/1289783553915359346/angry_dome_futurama.gif

[spare talon]

i think its like 51% final at 3 20% resists

cuz of how the math is on it

or something like that

[zinc talon]

oh phew, that I can manage

[zinc talon]

also lemme say something that'll get the baboons in here throwin their feces

everyone should have one flamer and one bomber resist

and dog resist is not the shitstain yall think it is

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/tugcekulas-monkey-tugce-ceku-gif-19479077

[zinc talon]

ha

[visual stream]

Dog resist understandable

[zinc talon]

dog resist drops both the health damage and corruption dogs do

[visual stream]

All of them are if that's your preference tbh

[zinc talon]

by a flat %

so yeah if they tick just two or three times, what's the use right

but knocking 20% off the fifth, sixth and beyond

[visual stream]

Yeah dog is just straight up "10% of your hp is corrupted now "

[zinc talon]

gives you several more ticks

[visual stream]

Unless you have gold

[stuck cliff]

I've taken the DS pill so hard

Shits amazing

[zinc talon]

yep especially because dogs are increasing damage per tick

and the amount they take per tick also increases maybe not exponentially

but wait yeah exponentially geometrically is a line

[grizzled aspen]

Also @spare talon what's your other blessing on your db?

I've got flechette but I don't think that's right.

[zinc talon]

so you end up with like, five more ticks before they kill you, which is like fifteen extra seconds

[spare talon]

i havent played db vet really since the update yet

i was going to play with fletchette t4 and see how i liked it, cuz going shoot>melee x2-3>shoot is likely enough to kill an elite at any distance, with 12 bleed stacks

however, scattershot allows you to fire 2 shots in a row at realistically 100% crit chance, and can also fill in the gaps if you only get one kill before swapping back to DB

[zinc talon]

so none of this grabassery occurs

credit where it's due what a save tho

[gray ice]

anyone got a good psyker assail abuse build

asking for a friend

[spare talon]

yes

hold on

[zinc talon]

ass-ail

[copper hawk]

do either of those work now

[zinc talon]

using assail is the reason your butt itches so much

it's a disease

[drowsy steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-laugh-gif-21799013

[copper hawk]

from what ive been told they still dont work

[grizzled aspen]

Back into the grinder I go to keep playing with db vet.

I must master this bullshittery.

[zinc talon]

as far as I'm convinced they were fixed a while back when they changed how bomber damage works

[vague depot]

How do you deal with zerkers mixed in a horde with dueling sword

[grizzled aspen]

Special poke their head.

[spare talon]

@gray ice

[copper hawk]

aim for their heads

[vague depot]

Or any elite/special unit in a horde

[grizzled aspen]

Dodge slide sideways.

[copper hawk]

also yah

special poke to any part of their body

it staggers ragers

[gray ice]

ty my good man

[copper hawk]

for some reason

[zinc talon]

what are your other attacks

[grizzled aspen]

Block > turn 90 degrees > dodge slide away.

[vague depot]

Does the special pierce through the horde or something

[zinc talon]

ranged/special

[coarse birch]

yeah those curio perks do actually work now

[copper hawk]

huh

i might use flamer resistance then

i run two gunner resistance and one sniper

might run two flamers and a gunner

[coarse birch]

they got fixed when they changed how fire works iirc

[copper hawk]

those r the only thing that kills me consistently in auric

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1289391480808411169/Darktide_2024.09.27-19.58_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66f9f864&is=66f8a6e4&hm=e95d438c801560c9672e69bb5959022a4791f4a945314354dbd9f2aab75f8c9b&

[copper hawk]

it all falls apart after the third tox flamer hits the striketeam

zola is often in two minds

i which one guides her today

bro ??

[rocky nacelle]

oh wait flamer res works now

[coarse birch]

every day i pray to FS that EP is removed altogether and replaced with something that doesnt give me brain damage

[rocky nacelle]

time to get rid of sniper res

[copper hawk]

who up stealin they genes

[coarse birch]

iirc it was fixed yeah, might be worth testing to double check its been a while and i dont run it

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1289392758980870184/Darktide_2024.09.27-20.04_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66f9f995&is=66f8a815&hm=b19fe808c43d8024a29d9c79c92a3fd5c8af5aad6c4ba7c1bf45795510702586&

[rocky nacelle]

I got to a kill combo of 150+

by popping scriers

and spamming special L1 with an illisi

during a HISTG dreyko finale

(this involved ragers and maulers in the mix as well)

lmfao

[coarse birch]

only hsword psyker exists to me

[rocky nacelle]

thats not mk6 knife

[coarse birch]

and DS very occasionally

i played a lot of knife pre patch

ill probably go back to it once i get sick of Hsword psyker

[rocky nacelle]

is Hsword peak

[coarse birch]

i think ive done like 60 levels of hsword psyker

its not crazy but its good

[visual stream]

Remember kids bomber res only affects the kicks

[coarse birch]

yeah

[rocky nacelle]

what do you run tree wise

[visual stream]

Same with sniper res

[coarse birch]

this was fixed iirc

[visual stream]

[coarse birch]

when they changed fire

[spare talon]

i feel like zealot still makes the best used of hsword with their swing speed potential

[coarse birch]

did they break it again

[acoustic dune]

Ey ey Ealot

[visual stream]

Nah I was messing

[coarse birch]

its mainly right side, i can get a picture of the tree

[visual stream]

Unless they did, Idk I don't run it on my curios

[rocky nacelle]

also if flamer resis is finally real

[copper hawk]

alright

[rocky nacelle]

definitely picking it up

[copper hawk]

maxxed our smaul

[rocky nacelle]

because they love spamming flamers recently

[acoustic dune]

our?

[coarse birch]

i think they fixed it but i dont run

it

flamers dont kill me that often

[visual stream]

This is, to date, the one and only time I've ever seen a crusher do this attack

Does anyone know what makes him do that

[rocky nacelle]

maybe blocking

iunno

[coarse birch]

i would assume blocking

[visual stream]

That's what I thought

[coarse birch]

just a variation of the kick

prob

[south grove]

finally ran a good rolling steel

[south grove]

I was left to die on the objective once

but other than that it ran smoothly

pubs are finally learning the pace

[grizzled aspen]

WHY DOES FIRE FUCKING STUN YOU

THIS IS SO DUMB

[coarse birch]

the push back is dumb

yeah

[grizzled aspen]

NO JUST FIRE ON THE FLOOR

IT STUNS YOU

[coarse birch]

ah

[spare talon]

im making my psyker staves now
after flak, what perk on a blaze trauma staff

[south grove]

go vet

vet ignores the flame

[grizzled aspen]

I literally dipped my big toe in fire and instantly got stunlocked into a crusher overhead.

[coarse birch]

i think i went crit chance but its been a minute, elites is probably the most value

if not crit chance

[spare talon]

yeah i think that this is the one weapon where crit chance makes sense

ive not used trauma in so fucking long

is the soulblaze nexus combo still generally the best one

[vestal pine]

i wonder if i can be a betatester lol

[spare talon]

or is rending shockwave actually worth it

[coarse birch]

ye

[vestal pine]

rending feels like its just its own category

[coarse birch]

rending shockwave has been worse for quite a bit now iirc

[vestal pine]

not to be crossbred with blaze

rending shockwave is cool and all but i think thats the end for it

[coarse birch]

usually youd go flurry rending if you wanted that, but its def weaker

[grizzled aspen]

I had to leave that mission because these people were being so fucking dumb.

[coarse birch]

you can take rending in the tree now anyway

even if its a small amount

[grizzled aspen]

-I run in to save the psyker
-kill 12 scab ragers to pull off the res
-get the res off
-she dodges a trapper and the net hits me shortly after
-she walks away, leaving me to get blendered to death

Anyway db vet fun.

[coarse birch]

@rocky nacelle this is what ive been using for hsword psyker and it serves me p well, youll need zarona or something if you want to deal with cara quickly

i only went to one with the warp cause the builds a little low on toughness regen/total toughness

[rocky nacelle]

hard mode

[coarse birch]

i may actually swap off mettle cause im not going too hard into crit

[grizzled aspen]

No true aim?

[copper hawk]

oh wow

this looks pawesome

i should try it w the tacaxe

since i cant bring myself to use the knife

[coarse birch]

i debated taking it but honestly i wanted to use the new stuff

[grizzled aspen]

I think tac axe would compliment db vet nicely, especially with its new blessings.

[coarse birch]

with the agri revo i only really need it to crit into crushers anyway

[unique elbow]

How do we zealots feel about getting duelling saber? Is it good for our uses?

[coarse birch]

so not a huge loss

[grizzled aspen]

Dsmk4 can 1shot crushers. Let that be all you need to be told.

[unique elbow]

sick

[spare talon]

hsword doesnt really need cleave i dont think

it already has great cleave, and its minimum cleave damage at like the 5th target actually falls of so hard

[zinc talon]

jesus that took forever to find

this is with one 20% curio

an important thing to note, when a flamer gets you with the actual jet stream and you're pushed back by it

[coarse birch]

yeah its probably true i kinda just wanted to try it

[zinc talon]

you take damage for every tick they hit you with

and you take damage for moving across the fire that's on the ground as well

so you're hit twice per pushback

that's where flame resist really shines

[coarse birch]

i dont use DB, so thought maybe it would get value there

but i think it hits cleave cap for the most part anyway

[coarse birch]

glad i remembered right

[spare talon]

god why are psyker melee blessing pools so fucking stacked

i cant decide if i want riposte, precog, or slaught

[coarse birch]

i like riposte

it has decent crit value, although that was before we had attack speed

now you might be able to land precog in time more often

[quiet spruce]

[spare talon]

prolly gonna do riposte for deimos and slaught for illisi

[ebon flicker]

oop

[coarse birch]

slaughts fine too cause deimos horde clear is better than youd expect but yeah id lean riposte for sure

i should run deimos again its been a bit

swore off it for a while

[vague depot]

How are you doing this

[spare talon]

precog/duellist/thrust/fotf

[vague depot]

I can’t seem to get the same results with dueling sword

[vague depot]

I can’t remember names im just using this build

[spare talon]

this is what i use

[vague depot]

Sword has vs flak and maniacs with uncanny strike and agile

[spare talon]

this is the important talent

[quiet spruce]

yeah

[coarse birch]

you could run zealot DS with duellist as the only talent and do well

[vague depot]

Damn

[quiet spruce]

funny

[vague depot]

Unyielding instead of maniacs?

[coarse birch]

you one shot most maniacs

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-hahah-nelson-simpsons-haha-laugh-gif-12400026

[vague depot]

I thought cleave was the dump stat

[spare talon]

thrust is just too free in terms of extra damage
in most realistic situations, you end up getting 1-2 stacks by accident

[spare talon]

this is my psykers

lole

so idc

[ember yew]

[coarse birch]

im liking agile repeating strikes on psyker a lot

its def not optimal

but i do enjoy it

[ember yew]

did you see that some people start to complain

its too easy to get perfect weapons now

there's no salvation for these people

[copper hawk]

lmfao

yah

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-ben-kenobi-of-course-i-know-them-theyre-me-gif-25185969

[copper hawk]

noo ocole

why..,

i knew u were a gacha gamer,,

[spare talon]

im going to be able to get a perfect roll of everything on every character before i run out of materials

[coarse birch]

im gonna be able to do that and notice even notice a change in my mats

[ember yew]

xXxDarktideCoDGamerxXx: FS, Crafting is too bad RNG casino.

FS: Okay then, here's new one.

xXxDarktideCoDGamerxXx: FS, it's too easy to get perfect weapons now, do something.

FS: For gods sake #$@%@$^%$%^%^

[copper hawk]

im happy w the state of crafting

i love it

i like being able to progress with a weapon

the game is super thrifty with xp as well

today i maxxed out 4 weapons

[drowsy steppe]

the playerbase cant never be happy

[coarse birch]

i do kinda wish i got to experience leveling up a weapon

but its fine

[spare talon]

then again im in the rare position of not needing to level up anything
theyre all already max, so all that i needed to do was menu simulator from that point on

[drowsy steppe]

experimenting has become a lot easier now

you just need to upgrade 1 base of a weapon family

[copper hawk]

lmfao yah

[drowsy steppe]

then just switch marks as you need

[ember yew]

Crafting is too easy now
Me crafting silly shit yesterday like 4 perfect shotguns with Manstopper/Flech (im too lazy to switch marks)

i'l just craft new wep

[copper hawk]

upgrade one base of a weapon family

[plush estuary]

I saw a crafting update once

[ember yew]

instead of switching marks

[copper hawk]

and it doesnt cost much

instead of needing to brick a weapon over and over for a blessing to try out a playstyle

[ember yew]

also, im actually

in +++ in resources

after i sold my gold stuff

i sold for around 8 mil dockets and maybe 60k plasteel

not sure about plasteel

[coarse birch]

i am capped on dockets and i dont see a world where that changes

[solid solar]

What are the best curio perks?

[ember yew]

buy some garbage cosmetics for all classes

like Cole did

[coarse birch]

yeah thats like all i havent done

[ember yew]

%toughness

• toughness
• hp
• gunner resist would be your best start

[ornate bone]

stamina bar for psykers

oh wait perks

not main ones

[hot jolt]

help

[spare talon]

psykers dont need stamina

[ornate bone]

they run slow

[spare talon]

peril deflection for blocking
they have the fastest stam delay to the point where you can spam push attacks

[vague depot]

Don’t you ever struggle with horde clear with dueling sword

[hot jolt]

i do bc im bad

[grizzled aspen]

WHAT IS WITH PEOPLE AND NOT REVIVING TONIGHT

[spare talon]

on zealot?

[vague depot]

Yea

[spare talon]

no

[grizzled aspen]

IM LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT TO YOU MOTHERFUCKER

[vague depot]

Damn

[grizzled aspen]

RAAAAAAAAAAA

[solid solar]

Flak and Unyielding for the dueling sword?

[spare talon]

i have piety crit cdr so i have a permanent 30% attack speed

[spare talon]

yea

[coarse birch]

yeah DS attacks fast enough to keep you safe

[vague depot]

What is piety again

[coarse birch]

mk2 has a horde clear swing as well

[vague depot]

Was the dump stat cleave or mobility

[copper hawk]

mobility

[coarse birch]

mob

[vague depot]

Aight

[coarse birch]

if a weapon has mob/defences dump it

[vague depot]

How does piety give attack speed

[rocky nacelle]

it doesnt

[grizzled aspen]

Crits give cdr, ability is fotf, it gives 20% attack speed, and hes got the 10% attack speed node.

[rocky nacelle]

chastise does

[spare talon]

atk speed buff lasts 10 seconds
crits keep the +200% cdr buff active all the time

reducing fotf cooldown to 10 seconds

[vague depot]

My head hurts

I play vermintide I should understand this

[copper hawk]

vermintide isnt this complicated

[spare talon]

that also means you have your +100% rending every 10 seconds

[copper hawk]

dont worry

another serving of swift slaying mlord ?

[coarse birch]

ok but what about swift slaying

[grizzled aspen]

Watch these creatures struggle with a basic horde.

[coarse birch]

(i didnt play vt2 but i know swift slaying was good)

[spare talon]

which results in this (scab melee maelstrom)

[grizzled aspen]

Oh scuse me it only clipped a bulwark, but still.

[copper hawk]

swift slaying was a blessing basically

you "blessed" a weapon at its gold upgrade tier

it got one "blessing"

swift slaying was generally the best one for every weapon