zealot-class

[rotund shoal]

unwritten bonus

[hard nexus]

IJ and ds5 and agile

[rotund shoal]

everything else works as written

i think +15% dodge speed as well

[frozen trench]

dodge speed sounds wacky

and dont it make the dodge count reset faster?

[drowsy steppe]

makes playing thammer more smooth

[vast basin]

agile bad

[drowsy steppe]

no

[frozen trench]

i hate it here

[trail mantle]

hmm, considering not using thrust on the ironhelm, hmm

[frozen trench]

shock and awe fun

or you can take both power blessings

[lusty oar]

https://tenor.com/view/blahaj-gif-27048745

[cunning knoll]

damn, time to grind dueling sword levels tho

i only have lvl 2

[trail mantle]

I was gonna ask if shock and awe was still ass, but I know they made BM bypass cleave target caps, so idk if they did the same to it

[hard nexus]

consider dodge maxxing though

[frozen trench]

i can swing into hordes and not get clunked on nothing

with crucis

[vast basin]

consider thrust precog though

[frozen trench]

idk abt ironhelm

[trail mantle]

aye, but does the damage hit all of them is the issue

[hard nexus]

yeah but that’s overpowered and boring

[drowsy steppe]

pushing and blocking attacks hella underrated while you wait till your dodge count resets

[vast basin]

and dodgemaxing isnt?

[hard nexus]

decreasing hitmass doesn’t affect that

[trail mantle]

so they didn't make it busted like bm them

[hard nexus]

mk5 does fuckall for damage lmfao so yeah

at least

relatively

[frozen trench]

just take the 2 power blessings

[vast basin]

well thats on you for weapon choice

and with fotf it does decent damage

[frozen trench]

the on hit and kills ones

[fleet zealot]

focus target vet

[hard nexus]

yes that’s why i’m talking about a meme build that isn’t good

[fleet zealot]

doesn't tag captain

100 iq

[frozen trench]

i like the 15% dodge range on it

that's abt it

[trail mantle]

couldn't be me

[frozen trench]

you can dump defenses and cap out at 15%

[fleet zealot]

doesn't kill specials

he was level 37 idk why he was in auric

he just recon'd trash mobs

[trail mantle]

well that one actually couldn't be me

[frozen trench]

would be me

[full nebula]

he was helping

[frozen trench]

fuck the other players im racking numbers for scoreboard memory leaks

[trail mantle]

I def forgor a couple times that I was using focus target after running the swap buff keystone

[vast basin]

mobility is still a better dump on the ds5 than defenses

you only sacrifice some sprint speed

[frozen trench]

aint like the stats on defenses tiny?

[trail mantle]

does it have a min dodge amount? or does it hit that at 60 mob anyway

[frozen trench]

mkv has 2 dodge distance scalings

one on mobility and defences

[vast basin]

ds5 will always have 5 dodges pretty much

[frozen trench]

you can dump either and still hit max dodge distance

[drowsy steppe]

other vet keystones besides weapon spec doesnt exist to me

[frozen trench]

or

you can just rock and mk 4 and dump mobility there if you are worried abt dmg numbers

i just like fun dodge dancing

[drowsy steppe]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1131478813285548170/1289629552577872055/saltzpyre.mp4?ex=66f9849d&is=66f8331d&hm=3448241059c6044ff009cd5670d43d984dd10f12a134e7d2855764fc49acc60b&

cursed sword

barely reached 3 stacks of thrust

if at all

still 2 shotting lmao

[hard nexus]

yeah man vet needed that really bad

vet needed it sooooo badly

balance !

[frozen trench]

yippee more fun and variety in my game

[hard nexus]

no it’s fucking overpowered

[frozen trench]

anything else kills games by being boring

helldivers2.jpg

[trail mantle]

what did they do to the dueling swords, I remember them being agressively meh

aside from letting vet and zealot use them I mean

[frozen trench]

meh on psyker who is best ranged class, top tier on vet and zealot

buttt

[full nebula]

not meh on psyker

[frozen trench]

melee psyker kinda fun

[full nebula]

you can 1shot crushers lul

[solar gorge]

ds was always broken even when it was restricted to psyker

[hard nexus]

gave them to zealot and vet, gave them thrust and agile

[hard nexus]

and now it’s even worse !

[frozen trench]

peak

[solar gorge]

now it's turbo borken

like beyond broken

[drowsy steppe]

[trail mantle]

I think they where also massively overshadowed by the force swords when I last played

[drowsy steppe]

yea

[solar gorge]

because zealot can take it to a whole other level and vet also but less

[drowsy steppe]

then they buffed it to the moon

that was the same patch

that removed infinite dodges on force swords

which is a thing btw

[red mesa]

how do you solo bosses with chain weapons?

[trail mantle]

that also explains why my deimos felt so much worse

[red mesa]

the lock on does good dmg, but you get hit every time

[solar gorge]

you hit them

[hard nexus]

have thy wrath be swift

[solar gorge]

you can dodge out of revved attack

[hard nexus]

otherwise just don’t rev them

[solar gorge]

dodge

[hard nexus]

yeah that too

[full nebula]

I dont think ds is that bad vs something like knife. It could do for a little balancing to come down to that level, but even knife can 2 shot crushers once the the stacks are going.

[vast basin]

there are certain attacks you can rev, just gotta know the boss

[hard nexus]

yeah and knife is also a really big problem

[red mesa]

pointless to do it and doge out of it tho youll almost never have time to let it get its dmg off unless you tank a hit

i think its my big issue with chain weapons

[solar gorge]

no

[hard nexus]

knife and ds are both overpowered as shit

[red mesa]

i like the fantasy

[solar gorge]

plenty of openings

[red mesa]

but they suck at clutching

[full nebula]

i don't see why weapons that are made for armor penetration shouldnt be able to handle large armored groups with the talents+blessings

[vast basin]

or maybe its user error

[hard nexus]

i’ve clutched plenty of times in 3veg with a mk15 evis, and normal aurics with a mk3 evis

[trail mantle]

are both knives op or is it just the "new" one?

[vast basin]

both knives are good, mk3 gooderer

[full nebula]

ehhh

yeah kinda

a wee bit

the 3 is technically slightly better, and its technically easier to land consistent stabs, making it better

[hard nexus]

the problem is they just remove armor as a threat, as they have extremely high mobility, high high attack speed, and a relatively ok horde clear

thunder hammer at least is slow, needs to empower, has poor mobility, poor horde clear, etc

dueling sword and knife should be able to deal with armor, yes, but not nearly as fast as it can right now

[full nebula]

but its a lot preference

[hard nexus]

both good, best way to describe which to use i’ve seen was from cole

use the mk6 as a primary weapon, mk3 if it’s more just your single target weapon

[solar gorge]

ah yes, the very famous anti-tank toothpick

[full nebula]

Yes like i said it could go for some balancing. But i don't think knives are that crazy broken. They're extremely good but you also need to be able to use them well, most people can't take on a large group of mixed horde shit with just knife.

[hard nexus]

the problem is a good player can clear a map with absolutely zero struggle with a knife

[full nebula]

Idk, nobody talks about shovels but vets mk7 can easily 1 shot one crusher after another.

Mk7 shovel will 1 shot light attack flak ragers

[royal vortex]

carapace enemies aren't nearly as threatening as they should be. that's why they come in groups of 4+

[red mesa]

soloing a plague ogryn or chaos spawn with a chain axe just feels miserable to me

[full nebula]

Thats just not true, especially on auric

[hard nexus]

because it is on a shovel, with poor mobility, requires a lot of prestacking, and is just not as easy to achieve compared to a knife or dueling sword

[red mesa]

i want to like these weapons, against general hordes the chain axe mark IV feels fun

but i just had bossing with it lol

[royal vortex]

they're supposed to be armored and fairly imposing as a wall enemy and they just get melted

[solar gorge]

knife and ds just have it all

[rotund shoal]

knife is op cuz of mobility

[solar gorge]

the damage

and the mobility

so insane defense and offense

no downside

[hard nexus]

thunder hammer should be one of the only weapons capable of easily reaching crusher one shot

also increase the self stun on thunder hammer a little bit

[full nebula]

If you're playing below that, and someone who is experienced is coming in and cleaing house, sure. But in auric, you're not gonna find that many people doing it all. Especially queuing randoms

[fleet zealot]

add void staff to the finished list

ez asf

[full nebula]

Man people like to talk about this mobility thing like it means anything, i just run shout, kraks. The shovel is a clearing monster, revolver for anything else. I barely move playing vet.

The only thing it doesnt do is a ton of boss damage

[rotund shoal]

thats cuz voc is op as well

lol

[royal vortex]

one shotting a crusher probably shouldn't ever be something you can do without some sort of major sacrifice

[fleet zealot]

mobility means something if you are doing high level premade, duo, solos

[red mesa]

someone wanna take a little clip of them soloing a chaos spawn with a mk IV chainaxe

[hard nexus]

yes running the most overpowered build makes the game easy so you don’t have to think about mobility!

[red mesa]

and how you would do it?

bc its miserable

i can do it

[royal vortex]

the game is just balanced badly and unlike vt2 you can't make a rebalance mod 😔

[full nebula]

bro if everything is overpowered, then you need to balance and nerfed 1/2 of the abilities and weapons, which just creates different metas.

[red mesa]

but takes forever, i take a good bit of dmg

[fleet zealot]

you are right here

[hard nexus]

yah that’s why i want the thunder hammer self stun increased again, so you have to be super careful with it

[solar gorge]

i think having to endure the self inflicted stun of post-hit th is enough to warrant a crusher 1 shot

[fleet zealot]

i solo'd enraged rhinda on hardmode with chaxe due to unfortunate teammate death timing

it's basically just, block, dodge, use lights when you can

[red mesa]

ok at least its not just me haha

[hard nexus]

metas are fine

metas that make the game extremely easy are not

[red mesa]

i want to likethese weapons so much more

[fleet zealot]

use fotf for toughness and to empower a light attack that already connected

[red mesa]

guess you just gotta count on not having to 1v1 the boss, and use the big dmg when they are focusing someone else

[fleet zealot]

no you can

[red mesa]

i just have this "i need to always be able to clutch" mindset

[fleet zealot]

you just don't use heavies

[red mesa]

probably bc i play solo a lot

[fleet zealot]

it's all lights with mk4

[full nebula]

If anything zealots tree needs nerfed then, but im sure peoople agree with that too lmao.

[paper harness]

High mobility weapons count less for solos

[royal vortex]

"meta" is a sort of meaningless term. it encompasses any relative item power comparison structure a game has. it can be healthy, it can be shit for the game, etc

[red mesa]

oh, i wasnt taking advantage of this

[paper harness]

Zealot meta is ds4 flamer

[red mesa]

light attacks rev, not heavies like the other one

[royal vortex]

the problem people have is almost never the idea of some weapons being better than others

[red mesa]

this helps a bit let me practice with it thanks

[full nebula]

How about, turn up the difficulty, harder ai, better, new enemy design. New modifiers? Nah fuck it nerf it all

[solar gorge]

players overall are powercreeping the shit out of the game since class overhaul

[rotund shoal]

care to expand on that cuz i find it a hell of a lot easier to solo on knife than evis

but the evis clears a whole lot quicker

[paper harness]

That’s exactly why

[rotund shoal]

cant kite as well due to shitty dodge dist

[paper harness]

It’s why ogryn is the hardest true solo

[royal vortex]

saying "better enemy design" doesn't provide any specifics. same with "harder ai"

[paper harness]

And ds4 would be easy

I want event spawns and hordes fixed

[hard nexus]

just make the game better bro

[rotund shoal]

rager spawns are back to "normal"

[full nebula]

The knife and the dodge talents, recover toughness/ all the movement shit ect

[rotund shoal]

in the sense that you get 10000 of them a mission

[royal vortex]

there are a lot of ways in which you can improve enemies but this often makes the game easier in darktide because they've had or have stupidly punishing quirks that just aren't fun

like old bulwark shields

[paper harness]

Turn based enemy

[frosty herald]

the new infected moebians are cool

[royal vortex]

or muties launching you a couple feet into the air if you were near a ledge they jumped onto

[lean lark]

me doing trigonometry in half a second to get the perfect angle so I can headshot the bulwark

[frosty herald]

very tanky bruisers

[solar gorge]

players have been needing lot's of nerfs on multiple fronts

[royal vortex]

or bomber nade stagger having a larger aoe than the explosion back when the fire instantly took your toughness

[solar gorge]

for a while now

[paper harness]

Unyielding dps should cap out at 2000

[royal vortex]

or hounds being unpushable

[paper harness]

It’s double that and change

[solar gorge]

bring back insta kill fire

[full nebula]

Most of that wasn't intended though

[lean lark]

bring back burgled mutie not stopping the slams

[solar gorge]

i demand it

[paper harness]

For thammers, power swords, knives and ds4

[karmic sparrow]

Is knife the only melee weapon with bonus crit chance?

[paper harness]

The simple solution is just reducing damage dealt and fixing certain extremely problematic talents and weapons

[sour oxide]

Mmm just swapped my switches in my mouse out. So much better I could probably play tac axe even

[paper harness]

Smite etc

[solar gorge]

darktide needs a modded realms

fatsahrk will never provide

[paper harness]

THIS

[royal vortex]

most of it was not an explicit bug as much as a poor design choice. the point is "better enemy design" isn't a specific point

[full nebula]

Anyway I'm sure they'll do balancing. But if you check around theres also video of some of the devs talking about not wanting to nerf things. So if anything we'll just get more powercreep

[solar gorge]

ppl will say "just make a new diff", it won't change anything bro

[paper harness]

I will never bitch about balance if I have modded realms where we can fix it

[solar gorge]

just give us modded realms

[paper harness]

New diff, more power creep

Helldivers 2 model

[solar gorge]

a new diff could work in theory

but i don't trust fs to balance the game

[royal vortex]

the real truth is this game is only fun with 2 or less people until all your runs end because of stupid shit like a trapper shooting through a staircase 10 meters above your head

because the fkin gun clipped the stairs

[drowsy steppe]

pub carrying is where the fun is

[solar gorge]

the powercreep players will never be solved

[heavy arch]

whats ur pub carrying build

[royal vortex]

that was like 4 months ago and im still upset because it was so stupid

[full nebula]

Eh, when i duo im expecting one mistake to sink it

[lean lark]

elite resistance was the first fs attempt at a 6th diff

[royal vortex]

the "mistake" was booting up the game that day

[drowsy steppe]

Check my link in the zealot thread

[red mesa]

this is like most of what i do when i play lmao
why i like my builds to be able to solo bosses well

[paper harness]

Elite resistance works, so does this new temporary modifier

[royal vortex]

i hate trappers and their easily solvable problems not touched since launch

[paper harness]

Combine and you have diff 6

[sour oxide]

Elite resistance was the best

[paper harness]

Just do not increase rewards at all

[full nebula]

Ima get into the true solo shit, that way i can just do it myself

[lean lark]

I accidentally queued into an auric mael on my talentless ogryn earlier

[royal vortex]

elite res had like nothing spawn on damnation. it was so boring

[lean lark]

and 2nd top scored

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-gauntlet-ill-do-it-myself-marvel-villain-gif-16087834

[lean lark]

How far the players have fallen

[royal vortex]

you had like minutes of dead air and then 6 two million hp reapers

[solar gorge]

i do like the event's armored hordes

but hey

don't get too attached if you like it

it's not staying

[lunar fable]

Pugs seem to have some trouble with those armored groaners

[shell tundra]

Man the pointy sword being available on zealot is a blessing

[lean lark]

They should've kept the spawns normal and just have the stat changes

[lunar fable]

[drowsy steppe]

a curse

🙂

[full nebula]

lmao

[shell tundra]

Point of view

[full nebula]

here we go

[heavy arch]

whats best zealot horde clear melee wep

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/point-of-view-star-wars-obi-wan-from-a-point-of-view-gif-15770138

[paper harness]

I’ll trade the ds4 for the standard infantry shovel

[solar gorge]

at least they made it be able to combine with histg and be on the auric board, unlike the last time they did a modifier for an event

[royal vortex]

i got trolled because i thought the new modifier on auric was always armored groaners + hishock and it can armored groaners + lights out n shit

[paper harness]

Heavy sword

[heavy arch]

do u still need brutal momentum on hsword

[solar gorge]

can combine with anything yeah

[full nebula]

what about ogryn killing 4 crushers at once

[paper harness]

Depends on the heavy sword

[heavy arch]

the sideways heavy one

[paper harness]

9 you do

[full nebula]

MOBILTIY!1

[paper harness]

7 and 6 just require headtaker

[shell tundra]

I can never chain light with that sword, idk why

[solar gorge]

I remember wanting to try the rinda invasion modifier when it was a thing and it was only playable on normal unmodified damnation

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-cat-sillly-bleh-gif-5818201130354939958

[paper harness]

Heaving Deathblow allows funny 4 ragers killed per attack

[lunar fable]

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-bebop-brick-valve-frozenfroh-gif-5215022515693311456

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/kotique-cat-tongue-cat-lick-gif-20076599

[royal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-bitch-billboard-gif-24970858

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/deadlock-welcome-to-lash-city-valve-lash-gif-10522548350812131673

[fading vale]

the bolter makes me feel dirty

it so damn strong

[solar gorge]

it can get p absurd now

[lusty oar]

mmm showered in heretic guts

[fading vale]

yeah it's definitely too strong

[solar gorge]

but that's just the unlocked and loaded experience

[fading vale]

yeah

[lean lark]

new players will never get the dopamine of hsword chastise into killing 6 crushers at once

[fading vale]

seems like a ton of OP shit now

[royal vortex]

exe stance bolter vet is funny

consume the elites

[paper harness]

Yes

[royal vortex]

do not let other people hit them

[drowsy steppe]

gotta pull in the new players

because

[slender belfry]

Holla

[paper harness]

That’s not going to work

Game is ultra dead

[drowsy steppe]

casuals see the ds4 1 shotting crushers and go

[frosty herald]

bolter doing bolter things

https://tenor.com/view/theboys-perfect-gif-23821319

[drowsy steppe]

'NICE'

[slender belfry]

What a good knife look like

[full nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/the-incredibles-syndrome-ang-when-everyones-super-no-one-will-be-super-heroes-gif-5389961

if everythings overpowered...

[lean lark]

im surprised the game has managed to hang on to like 3-4k average players

[shell tundra]

Tbh I'm happy it took me just a few hours as a newish player to get the blessings I wanted

[paper harness]

Precog riposte flak unyielding

[drowsy steppe]

(real response to a video I share to friends btw)

[shell tundra]

I heard it was hell before

[red mesa]

dealing with crushers with the mk IV chainaxe is interesting, you basically light spam huh?

[frosty herald]

a loyal core audience

[slender belfry]

About the number

[lean lark]

its doing shockingly well right now

[solar gorge]

buffing everything skyhigh isn't a sustainable player retention strategy it will only result in a short burst

[lunar fable]

Ded game not 100k

[paper harness]

60 mobility

[frosty herald]

some had thousands of hours without getting thrust 4

[drowsy steppe]

yea

[frosty herald]

damn

[humble shoal]

I wanna make a chorus build

[drowsy steppe]

pulling in new players

[frosty herald]

the game is ultra dead now guys

[drowsy steppe]

make everyone feel powerful

[shell tundra]

Me who got it in 2 hours

[frosty herald]

😭

[drowsy steppe]

then tone things down later

[solar gorge]

yep

[frosty herald]

12k of those are bots guys...

[drowsy steppe]

no

[solar gorge]

they won't stick around

[heavy arch]

which blessings for bolt pistol?

[paper harness]

That number will drop massively

[shell tundra]

Guys don't forget gamepass people

[drowsy steppe]

theres no irl money at stake for botting to be an actual issue

[paper harness]

They are appealing to the core audience of 12k total players

[shell tundra]

Itsnnot only steam

[paper harness]

[lean lark]

its gonna decay by 2k every week until it goes back to 4k or less

only thing that personally kept me playing was getting perf rolls of my favourite weapons

[frosty herald]

probs like 6k or 24k

[lean lark]

but now i have every weapon as a perfect

[shell tundra]

The Warframe problem: "now what?"

[solar gorge]

i was kinda hyped to grind the mastery skins

[humble shoal]

Ughhhhh

[solar gorge]

little did i know

[paper harness]

It’s so sad that I can’t true solo with naked on

[humble shoal]

Lemme make a quick build

[paper harness]

If I turn it off it’s gone for good

[drowsy steppe]

wishing for true solo with rewards

[lean lark]

too much work for fatshark

[drowsy steppe]

my solo skill expression isnt worth not getting rewarded

[solar gorge]

remember when fs said they were working on solo play

[drowsy steppe]

😆

[paper harness]

[shell tundra]

How would you even play solo with trappers and hounds around

We could get a once per game save like in drg

[lean lark]

dont get hit

[solar gorge]

shrimple

[lean lark]

and/or kill them first

[shell tundra]

Even so

[lean lark]

for hounds you can usually just drop a nade at your feet if you cant guarantee avoiding it or killing it

[trail mantle]

that's basically what they do in Vermintide

[frosty herald]

gets hit by a trapper

[lean lark]

for trappers you have to focus on it

[trail mantle]

and the fucking hookrats are more annoying then trappers for me

[shell tundra]

Idk man I got trapped by trappers who literally just spawned, no reaction allowed

[solar gorge]

hookrats behind 20 stormvermins

yum

[trail mantle]

and I dont play vt at anywhere near the level I do darktide

[red mesa]

do you guys think chainweapons are also too easy to deal with crushers/armor?
this might not be as good as a knife, dueling sword or plasma/revolver but not bad

[solar gorge]

nah because you have to rev

[frosty herald]

good anti armor but bad at hordeclearing

[desert garden]

heavy chainsword blessings for crit build ?

[pale spindle]

no because reving makes u vulnerable

[red mesa]

its not that bad tho

and the evis are better at horde clearing, similar at armor

[pale spindle]

the best cara weapons are dualing sword and knife

[red mesa]

at least with IV chainaxe dont even need to rev tbh

it just helps

the lights auto rev, do more than the heavies

[pale spindle]

sure but the chain axe is designed to headshot

[trail mantle]

shred + savage sweep prolly

[solar gorge]

and they have insane mobility, ease of use, no need to hit the special feature before attacking armor and lightning fast heavies

[lean lark]

darktide does not feel like a serious game whatsoever

[humble shoal]

Spearhead bolbgun any good?

[lean lark]

i dont see how people can nolife this

[pale spindle]

chain sword is shit, evis is sorta ok but again u need to wait for the rev to complete

[acoustic dune]

game crashed @placid fiber

[red mesa]

i misread

[trail mantle]

aye, more saying that I suck at vt and don't play it past like diff 2-3

[pale spindle]

but then again I play this kind of evis: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d1122f5-8a50-4b29-a5a8-561f71ddb3a7/eviscerator-thru-butter?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[trail mantle]

so less specials and damage, and hook rats still anoy my more then trappers despite how bs trappers can be

[pale spindle]

its soo funny when I can just go thru bullwalk shields like a light saber

[slender belfry]

Bolt pistol or Revoler

[red mesa]

same, im getting better but dont play it as often. darktide's gameplay and flow clicks much harder for me and i play it at a much higher level.
im on a solo damnation level in darktide.
and im on a solo t3 level in vt, i struggle in cata with a group even

[acoustic dune]

polster

[south grove]

revolver is the bread and butter

[desert garden]

both are fine

[acoustic dune]

EXPLODE

[humble shoal]

I'm gonna try out bolt gun

[south grove]

bistol is when you want something spicy

[lean lark]

kinda miss elite resistance

closest thing is unspeakable soloplay

think thats what it was called

[south grove]

boltgun's absolutely goated rn

[humble shoal]

Wait... Bolt pistol or spearhead?

[slender belfry]

Bolt pistol

[paper harness]

Grimalackt’s mod yeah

[lean lark]

wonder if unspeakable is updated still

[trail mantle]

speargun

[south grove]

bistol

boltgun

bistol

boltgun

[humble shoal]

I'm trying to make a build with chorus, spearhead, and idk what else

[trail mantle]

can we get a harpoon gun

[south grove]

try the maul as well

[south grove]

omg

lemme get the image

[humble shoal]

Shock maul?...

[slender belfry]

Which gun is gud for zealot

[trail mantle]

most

[placid fiber]

@ornate bone did you dc?

[ornate bone]

no

[placid fiber]

Just checking

[south grove]

crossbow please

explosive crossbow

or silver tipped crossbow

[south grove]

yes

[red mesa]

chain axe, is dump stat mobility or defense?

[trail mantle]

a bolt pistol or revolver works well to quickly take care of special or ranged threats, the flamer is the flamer, and the bolt gun is quite good now as a slow but all purpose weapon

[south grove]

shock maul's good

[trail mantle]

but most guns work

[south grove]

always dump defence first

[humble shoal]

Alright

Hmmm now what skill tree...?

[slender belfry]

Which blessing for bolt pistol ?

[south grove]

the priority should be collateral/defense -> charge rate -> mobility

[lean lark]

if someone would pick up unspeakable and manage to make it playable in private games

that'd be fucking awesome

[red mesa]

ok ya, so something like this is good

[south grove]

deadly accurate/surgical

or go point-blank for meming

[trail mantle]

been using the bleed one and quite like it

[haughty basalt]

could this still be bugged? im PRETTY sure the mobility and pen were at 60 and 80

[south grove]

bleed's underrated ngl

[south grove]

outstanding

[trail mantle]

but I am also "old" so i am used to stuff like deadly being shite

[south grove]

it's a rounding issue/visual bug

[trail mantle]

hell, hearing that people actually use surgical suprised me

[humble shoal]

Loner, beacon, or Benedict?

[south grove]

mobility shouldn't matter that much after 51%

[south grove]

take benedict arnold

duhhh

[humble shoal]

Alright bbyg

[placid fiber]

tfw you get this on your Vet, and not your Zealot...

[frosty herald]

Normalize looking at your dms

[south grove]

Geedubs should give me this autogun furniture

[trail mantle]

do people mainly use the og revolver with the slow ass reload

[south grove]

I really need it

[south grove]

the reload's fine

[haughty basalt]

does this refer to enemies hitting me?

[lean lark]

yeah its been busted for a very long time

[south grove]

you gotta time it though

[lean lark]

every 2nd attack you get the buff

[south grove]

every time you hit an enemy you get a stack

[trail mantle]

and use surgical + the rend on crit right?

[lean lark]

surgical hand cannon yeah

[south grove]

yes

[trail mantle]

[red mesa]

flamer with blaze + everlasting flame and a piety build is nutty now. never reload

[south grove]

house escher has some of the coolest shit

[fast tiger]

fwiw weapspec vet basically never needs to reload it

[south grove]

give us some of it fatshark/geedubs

[trail mantle]

weap spec vet my beloved

[lean lark]

a thing im sad about is people not running db vet at all

shit is super fun and super fucking good

[south grove]

bolter/needler combi weapon

holy peak

[rocky nacelle]

I look at my dms it’s the other ones who don’t

[trail mantle]

db?

[lean lark]

double barrel

[trail mantle]

oh

yeah it's super fun

[south grove]

I see so many now idk what you're talking about

[trail mantle]

been trying to figure out the blessing to use on it tho

[south grove]

scattershot man-stopper

[lean lark]

i havent ran into one yet

not even when double barrels came out

[fleet zealot]

scattershot manstopper with piety, or both barrels deathspitter for other builds

[lean lark]

only saw them on zealot if i recall

[south grove]

infinite cleave on crits

[fleet zealot]

i play weapon spec dbarrel vet so much

[south grove]

they're so common round here

[humble shoal]

Piety or momentum?

[trail mantle]

momentum is my general go to

[south grove]

just go IJ

always go IJ

[fleet zealot]

i'd try the piety build with dbarrel just for manstopper experience

[south grove]

IJ is love IJ is life

[fleet zealot]

i never go IJ

[humble shoal]

That is momentum

[fleet zealot]

martyrdom or if i'm going crit, piety

[humble shoal]

Ij is momentum

[south grove]

I remember stuff by its given name :P

[trail mantle]

IJ feels like just the most general, martyrdom feels wierd for normal usage, but maybe I need to give it another go with a better set up

[lean lark]

my db vet build was exec focus targets

with very specific breakpoints that let me oneshot snipers across the map

[south grove]

why is the auric board so mid rn

I don't see assassination on there

[paper harness]

yay!

[lean lark]

they gave thrust to psword? why

[trail mantle]

no clue but thrust + bm seems like it'd be fun on the og mark of it

[lean lark]

unyielding maniacs in 2024 is wild

[humble shoal]

Thoughts?

[south grove]

queued into another lacerate/fleshtearer vet

I can't do this no more

[trail mantle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735819155608961044/1096153257497337938/mematicMeme.gif

[paper harness]

no

[red mesa]

seems good tbh why? flak just isnt that needed on the rashad tbh it crushes flak

[lusty oar]

hehe not sorry

[humble shoal]

What

Just saying no doesn't help at all

[lean lark]

on thammer maniacs is not needed

[red mesa]

oh the thumbnail looked like a rashad axe.
ya on thammer i would run carapace unyielding.

i was being dumb

[rotund shoal]

sainted gunslinger is certainly aa pick

[trail mantle]

hmm, has anyone checked if the event hoards are infested still or unarmored

[paper harness]

4 wasted points

[lean lark]

even hoarde is flak

[solar gorge]

they're flak

[calm marten]

dump stat on the duelling sword?

[trail mantle]

ah

[solar gorge]

where they have armor they're flak

[humble shoal]

Onnnn????

[rotund shoal]

unreleting + sainted gunslinger is a nonsensical choice

[red mesa]

flak with unarmoured heads right?

[solar gorge]

depends

[trail mantle]

I guess they are literally wearing flak armor aren't they

[solar gorge]

some have helmets

[south grove]

normal damnation teammates are so fucking ass

I can't do this anymore

[rotund shoal]

swift certainty is much worse than the red cdr node

[humble shoal]

Thank you

[paper harness]

Sainted and dance of death + wrong side of IJ pathing node

[trail mantle]

but the scab flamer was also wearing flak and it's hp wasn't counted as that so I figured i'd check

[rotund shoal]

restoring faith makes sense only on martyr

[solar gorge]

that's because fatshark

[rotund shoal]

even then its not really optimal

[solar gorge]

so you get scab flamer as maniac because lel

[red mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-amazing-so-beautiful-it-is-what-it-is-gif-22558916

[south grove]

praying for an auric damnation assassination mission

please give it to me on refresh

[rotund shoal]

you also have the dmg node on the chorus

no reason to ever take the dmg node on chorus

[south grove]

please I beg of you

[trail mantle]

have they nerfed the captains or do people just do more damage now?

[humble shoal]

Alright

[lean lark]

more dmg

[paper harness]

go duo a 3veg on one

[south grove]

dueling sword shreds them

[lean lark]

bosses in darktide are a joke in general

[solar gorge]

they buffed the melee damage captains receive to their voidshields

for what reason

idk

[south grove]

I'm not at auric maelstrom level yet

:P

[trail mantle]

I remember the train assasination mission being a pain becuase half the time random shit would start spawning becuase half the people did like no damage to it

[paper harness]

FS

[south grove]

the dreg captain is so fucking useless

I wish they used a regular scab captain

[humble shoal]

So I took away saint gunslinger, unremitting, dance of death

[trail mantle]

I mean the old train assasination not the new quick mission one btw

[south grove]

there's literally nothing different about them

[paper harness]

imagine when they have fixed event spawns

PEAK

[south grove]

the boss spawns are definitely tougher

[humble shoal]

Switched the node for swift certainty

And the chorus

[placid fiber]

Jesus the psyker tree...

[south grove]

no assassination 😭

I'm gonna cry

[trail mantle]

I could also swear that they have upped the number of daemonhost spawns

[south grove]

they did

[paper harness]

no

[rotund shoal]

get second wind

[lean lark]

remove crusher boss, only have psword boss, make shield have x1.8 more ehp, make boss enemies all have pox gas buff and all be flak body unarmoured head

assassination becomes somewhat more entertaining

[south grove]

espionage in sycorax and there's a host every other room

[lean lark]

bosses are random

if a boss doesnt spawn, you probably have a dh

[paper harness]

all dh is kino

[lean lark]

and viceversa

[humble shoal]

That leaves one point left

[paper harness]

devil claw practice session

[south grove]

can they make us assassinate someone else for a chance

like

[rotund shoal]

post current build after changes

[south grove]

a heretical official

[placid fiber]

@ornate bone game crashed

[south grove]

and fight multiple bodyguards or smth

[trail mantle]

heretical psyker boss

[lean lark]

you cant give fatshark too much work

[trail mantle]

like that one mf from vermintide

[south grove]

they're on vacation right now

[placid fiber]

relaunching the game x.x

[south grove]

they'll be back in november

[rotund shoal]

get the 10% attack speed node

[placid fiber]

The 10% attack speed node on psyker is so nice

[rotund shoal]

also duelist

[south grove]

• there's only 21 devs on darktide iirc

[rotund shoal]

duelist is more important than the 10% as one but 10% as is very good as well

[paper harness]

nooo

[humble shoal]

Uhhh no points remain

[fast tiger]

taking that random node and not duelist is certainly a choice

[lean lark]

remove toughness gain on the ij node

and get duellist

[rotund shoal]

skip the chorus extra point instead

thats just +20% tdr i think

[humble shoal]

Oh, now I see it

[fleet zealot]

you should have IJ stacks on dodge as well

[fast tiger]

^

[rotund shoal]

all zealots builds are the same

[fleet zealot]

you look like you are scared of throwing knives tbh

[rotund shoal]

all IJ builds are the same

there is no zealot builds

its just the one IJ build that is the best

that is so boring

[humble shoal]

...

[fast tiger]

it’s just a solved class for the most part

[merry flume]

goes to show you how zero brained purg psyker is @hard nexus

[frosty herald]

Another vacation

[humble shoal]

Brodie this chat is just chaos

[hard nexus]

i have a couple clips hold on

[rotund shoal]

penis nurgle gurgling

[south grove]

we don't actually talk about zealots here

[fleet zealot]

peak teammates

[humble shoal]

Yeah, I've noticef

[acoustic dune]

buff duelist to 1000 but make duration like a fraction

[lean lark]

crusher oneshot on db vet now

[rotund shoal]

Make knife your blitz

[lean lark]

thats cool

[acoustic dune]

lacerate my beloved

[humble shoal]

Ughhhhh

[rotund shoal]

Wait knife is actually the blitz

[humble shoal]

K.

[lusty oar]

that's zealot class

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/my-beloved-my-beloved-my-beloved-beloved-love-loop-gif-21565043

[long oasis]

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iLXuNwcKURnie1CLr/d13371VHKkaq?invite=cr-MSx4Vk4sMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[humble shoal]

So just yell at each other and don't say anything in specific

[hard nexus]

then

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iLXHA2ftX4fYOnvPI/d1337z65iURq?invite=cr-MSxZbU8sMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

and one more

[humble shoal]

No, I was using immolation

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iLXKQ8E7vsdSssXee/d1337UXwKmHV?invite=cr-MSx5Wk4sMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[red mesa]

me over here feeling like blazing piety builds are the strongest by a decent margin

https://tenor.com/view/saucelessss-soheb-monkey-gif-24441676

[lusty oar]

and be gay do crime

[paper harness]

Tanner fan

[lean lark]

dont know if you can now but you used to be able to just overhead bursters and they'd live on like 20 hp but get knocked back a lot and trigger the explosion

[humble shoal]

Im not gay

[paper harness]

IJ clears

[red mesa]

lmao no fuck that guy

[merry flume]

literally only turned around because they heard me ult and they were like "oooo free killsteals"

then they ignore the horde

and the ogryn goes to do the obj and immediately goes down AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[red mesa]

i posted this earlier but i was one of the first ones to post a disagreement on his original vet build video about uncanny being bad, and he called me a moron and then like 10 hours later dropped the 'uncanny is bad and this is why" video lol, i think my comment is still there

[stone fern]

how the fuck do you clear on ds4

[rocky nacelle]

on zealot?

[rotund shoal]

press m1

[merry flume]

lights

[rocky nacelle]

just press m1

lmfao

[rotund shoal]

do the thing where you dont perss it long

[trail mantle]

tbf most the class chats (at least from my experience) are pretty much just chatting until someone asks a question

[ornate bone]

m1 enjoyers rise up

[stone fern]

IM TRYING ITS TOO SLOW

[median steeple]

Press faster

[merry flume]

use mk5 ds then

[rotund shoal]

its just knife clear speed

[rocky nacelle]

sucks being a marty user I guess

idk

[ornate bone]

BROTHER PEOPLE DID HORDES WITH THAT WEAPON BEFORE PSYKER EVEN GOT AN ATTACK SPEED BUFF

[stone fern]

is it better on momentum than BP?

[rocky nacelle]

I use piety

so I dont need crit blessings

and just max out on dmg

[paper harness]

why would you use bp

[rocky nacelle]

with precog/thrust/chastise

[fast tiger]

I’d drop the random node and get the dr on dodge talent or the move speed/dodge ranged free talent

[humble shoal]

tbf when I ask a question, it's answered like 10 minutes later saying all my life choices are wrong

[fast tiger]

that’s largely just zealot chat

[stone fern]

i dunno to chastise more?

[red mesa]

often crit blessings are good with piety bc you can push close to 100% crit with things like the knife. or 70%+ with others

[hard nexus]

the ogryn and psyker both sucked, at least the ogryn did the objective
also we left the ogryn like 3 times lmfao, i was the only one that picked him up/freed him

i LOVEEE getting out damaged by a players im signficantly better than solely because they have a purg staff!!!!

[fast tiger]

everyone here is high on crack

[rocky nacelle]

no

[chilly kiln]

Do you not taking crit blessings as well as piety?

[rocky nacelle]

I do not need crit blessings

[humble shoal]

Makes me just wanna go back to ogryn

[rocky nacelle]

on DS4

with piety

[paper harness]

you do not need uncanny either

[merry flume]

skill staff fr...

[rocky nacelle]

im not running uncanny

[paper harness]

or on knfie

[hard nexus]

i hate psykers

[red mesa]

ive been using precog + thrust bc its so overtuned
but reposte is real good too

[chilly kiln]

Which one is DS4

[fast tiger]

frankly the two could not be more different

[chilly kiln]

Oh wait

[hard nexus]

para ur the only good psyker

[chilly kiln]

Nvm

I’m dumb lmao

[fast tiger]

PlayStation controller

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/steamhappy-happy-happysteam-steam-gif-1779654035932426850

[humble shoal]

They are very different

[chilly kiln]

True my bad

[humble shoal]

Got the names of those talents or what

[lusty oar]

zealot chat vs ogryn chat

i don't hav ethe meme without captions on hand

[trail mantle]

dr on dodge is called "a good balance"

[chilly kiln]

I was about to ask wtf is going on in ogryn chat

[rocky nacelle]

im still running uncanny/precog knife

[chilly kiln]

[rocky nacelle]

until they add thrust/precog knife

[paper harness]

Then dump pen

[rocky nacelle]

😈

[stone fern]

https://tenor.com/view/donaldtrump-youhavetogoback-gif-15200276093101548223

[stone fern]

precog thammer

[chilly kiln]

Lol

[fast tiger]

Good balance or swift certainty

[trail mantle]

Brutal momentum Thammer

[stone fern]

power cycler thammer

[humble shoal]

Mmmm....

[chilly kiln]

Why’d they give crusher an actual good blessing

[paper harness]

Remove brutal momentum and uncanny from game thanks

[chilly kiln]

I’m so sad now smh

[fast tiger]

should I ask why you have this specific version of this meme saved

[humble shoal]

And I was just told to get rid of swift certainty earlier.

[paper harness]

Also remove thrust

[rocky nacelle]

almost counter intuitive imo

since you wanna max stack thrust usually on a TH

[paper harness]

Swift certainly is terrible

[rocky nacelle]

and charging a heavy with precog up with a TH

might be a bit longer

[stone fern]

make precog last 4 hours

[fast tiger]

it’s nice going a bit faster. good balance is also good

[stone fern]

make thrust stack to 8

[humble shoal]

I need you to fight dorn

[cold aspen]

why am i able to empower other weapons ive barely used, but cant empower my crusher?

[stone fern]

people joked about giving psyker a suicide bomber talent

[paper harness]

5% is irrelevant compared with 5 backstab regen

[fast tiger]

give bolter 19 quadrillion rounds per mag

[stone fern]

but this is where we are

8 stack thrust

[chilly kiln]

I’m going to assume ironhelm is the better thammer

Right

[stone fern]

2 hour precog

[trail mantle]

no

[paper harness]

Shut up clad

[stone fern]

12994 swing pcycler

[fast tiger]

it’s actually in comparison to +15 toughness in this conversation right now

[chilly kiln]

Guh

[trail mantle]

afaik they are either equal or the crucis is better

[stone fern]

wake up to reality

[chilly kiln]

I c

[red mesa]

ya ds4 is nutty, no uncanny needed
note, no + carapace dmg perk either

[stone fern]

reality is thrust on everything

[paper harness]

Do you need purge the unclean tho

[stone fern]

blaze away on all ranged thrust on all melee

yup its balance time

[paper harness]

Pls shut up

[lean lark]

removing any blessing creates a power vacuum and we cannot have those happening

[stone fern]

no i'm the average fatshark dev

[paper harness]

Good balance

[humble shoal]

Jhit, I don't know, I don't play shouties

[lean lark]

it'd be catastrophic for the little balance darktide has

[rocky nacelle]

for whoever was talking about DS4 this is what im running

[trail mantle]

put that one cleave on weak spot blessing that the helbore has on more things

[paper harness]

The real solution is completely retooling every weapon’s damage pool

[rocky nacelle]

darktide 2

dw

[stone fern]

darktide 2 will be worse

[rocky nacelle]

good

[fast tiger]

which is the blessing I recommended first, and swift uncertainty if he didn’t want that

[stone fern]

rending will be a curio perk

[frosty herald]

It is

Allows you to cleave hordes and is faster than crucis

[trail mantle]

toughness damage reduction was a data mined perk for curios early on iirc

[lean lark]

the only option fatshark has to get out of this self-imposed rabbit hole is remaking the game almost entirely

or making very very significant changes

[trail mantle]

just straight toughness damage reduction vs everything

[paper harness]

To have lower damage values against armour in comparison to the damage to an armoured

[rocky nacelle]

dont tell them the secret truth

[trail mantle]

and it was like a pretty solid chunk of it as well

[rocky nacelle]

ignoring flak and just going elite/carapace and purge the unclean on ironhelm

[stone fern]

its okie guys two more weeks well get modded realm and a t6 thats gonna fix everything

[rocky nacelle]

kill everything

[lean lark]

rending (ever since the reworks) has been a topic of discussion for a lot but it goes nowhere like always

[paper harness]

Modded realm would fix it

[lean lark]

because the devs have their own ideas

[paper harness]

Unironically

[fast tiger]

it has an annoying moveset though unless you only spam charged heavies

[stone fern]

2 more weeks

[paper harness]

They have nobody in charge of combat design

That’s why patch 13+ dramatically scaled power

[lean lark]

idk what the playtesters are smoking

[paper harness]

Inside track, the playtesters are ignored

[stone fern]

thanks playtesters love the mercantile rework

[paper harness]

Fatshark doesn’t like taking feedback from playtesters

[trail mantle]

is it actually better, I love me ironhelm but the crucis was just better for a very long time, and I am decently out of the loop on things

I assumed it still was

[rocky nacelle]

ironhelm was better than crucis when it dropped

then both got power crept from HP changes

[humble shoal]

"so we listened to our players and gave you a new mechanic where you can kill yourself"

[rocky nacelle]

both are in a really good spot

[trail mantle]

I see

[rocky nacelle]

if I go ironhelm im using -> Elite/Cara

[trail mantle]

good

[rocky nacelle]

if I go crucis im using -> Flak/Cara

[stone fern]

i keep fucking myself when i go crucis

[rocky nacelle]

both utilizing purge the unclean

[lean lark]

ironhelm was noob-friendly thammer but now they're interchangeable

[trail mantle]

you go thrust + slaught on both or something more intersting on the ironhelm*

[rocky nacelle]

for unyielding dmg

[lean lark]

you can run both easily now anyways

[stone fern]

too much muscle memory from spamming activation on ironhelm

[lean lark]

its just preference and what you plan on doing with them

[rocky nacelle]

thrust + slaught

[chilly kiln]

Can fatshark give zealot a bomb vest perk

[frosty herald]

crucis has raw damage

[rocky nacelle]

theres a few other combos you can do

but not really

[frosty herald]

but ironhelm is vastly more usable

[humble shoal]

Pffft

[chilly kiln]

Fucks sake every class has a bomb collar with the prison jumpsuit lol

Let us use it

[frosty herald]

fatshark add this to psyker as an ult

[trail mantle]

I don't have much of an issue hitting power bonks on the crucis esp now but I like the more interesting movest of the ironhelm for the rest of it

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/majin-vegeta-final-explosion-dragonball-gif-10505338

[rocky nacelle]

you can spam activation on both now clad

tbh

[ornate bone]

ragequit on lobby

[rocky nacelle]

ironhelm is actually faster

[ornate bone]

the weapon was perfectly fine

[rocky nacelle]

but both can just special chain

[ornate bone]

post your WEAEAPONs

[chilly kiln]

💀

[rocky nacelle]

musedash music...............

[fast tiger]

i see this person on the subreddit all the time

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-sh-james-sunderland-harry-mason-heather-mason-gif-23302822

[fast tiger]

are they ok

[chilly kiln]

No

Obviously

[trail mantle]

I had to hold back so hard from being an ass earlier when I had to fucken carry with a build that I didn't realize I put together wrong

[chilly kiln]

What’s the best braced auto mk

[trail mantle]

been playing too much league

[chilly kiln]

[trail mantle]

the toxicity is infecting my brain

[chilly kiln]

Ngl

[remote bluff]

Hi everybody,

whats the dumpstat on the Flamethrower?

[chilly kiln]

League isn’t even that toxic anymore

[royal vortex]

unfathomably based

[red mesa]

how do you think if they did release a difficulty 6, it would be implemented alongside the auric system?
i feel like the mission board would be bloated with 3 tiers of aurics.
maybe they drop 4's out of auric board?

[trail mantle]

esp since I am ONLY playing with friends, Ican't solo que anymore even for arams

[paper harness]

League isn’t toxic, I am

[chilly kiln]

💀

[chilly kiln]

I think it’s mobility?

Like almost every other weapon

[paper harness]

They shouldn’t release diff 6 they should just fucking nuke player damage and survivability

[remote bluff]

thank you

[chilly kiln]

At least it used to be

[trail mantle]

if a weapon has defense it's that if not it's mobility

[chilly kiln]

I’ve been out of tune of the meta

For ages

[trail mantle]

esp now that it'll be at least 60% when maxed

[remote bluff]

i'll ride with it thanks for the answer anyways

[thorn sable]

True truths

[chilly kiln]

I’m just having the time of my life with like

[fast tiger]

damage

[chilly kiln]

Evisc and the revolver

[paper harness]

They can’t even fix spawns, they won’t fix player output

[chilly kiln]

In auric

[fast tiger]

flamer dumpstat is damage come on people

[red mesa]

issue is a lot of players have no idea how to take advantage of these things.
just queue alone in quickplay and it feels < 50% of the auric playerbase has a grasp on higher level gameplay mechanics/basics

[chilly kiln]

Yeah the average player is

Not great

Mechanically or like

mentally

[thorn sable]

people want to try different builds not just play the small number of incredibly strong ones 🤷‍♀️

[rocky nacelle]

when the VoC +Iron Will vet doesnt realize hes been crusher overheaded as he sprays his gun into a chaff horde

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-triple-h-head-nod-nodding-approved-gif-13272682

[chilly kiln]

Yeah pretty much

[rocky nacelle]

(he didnt even lose max toughness)

[frosty herald]

he dont let that shit bother him

[trail mantle]

I stand by the fact the d4 is easier then 5 becuase people generally are better

fuck

[chilly kiln]

What

[rocky nacelle]

vets dont let anything bother them

[paper harness]

It’s over for Gloriana isn’t it

[fast tiger]

you meant the opposite right

[rocky nacelle]

game off class

[red mesa]

im not sure what you mean
you can tell a good player with a good or a bad build. Sure a good player with a fun build wont carry or trivialize the match quite as hard, but you can still tell.

it still feels like <50% of the people who queue up for aurics have a good grasp on the game taking that into consideration imo

[trail mantle]

d5 is easier then 4 becuase people are better

[neon field]

what are best blessings for mk9 heavy sword

[chilly kiln]

I agree

[fast tiger]

savage sweep perfect strike

[neon field]

cheers

[fast tiger]

(Don’t)

[chilly kiln]

Auric with like high intensity engagement zone is easier then d4

[rocky nacelle]

if gloriana fucking

[chilly kiln]

Because d4 is full of uh

[rocky nacelle]

bricks

[fast tiger]

it’s Headtaker deathblow

[thorn sable]

That’s fair, but the reason is they got there playing ridiculous builds that carry you through all sorts of incompetence

[chilly kiln]

You know

[rocky nacelle]

im done

[chilly kiln]

[chilly kiln]

Define bricks

[fresh isle]

what perks should I take on the duelling sword

[rocky nacelle]

ill handle every other trash thing this game has, but if gloriana gets bricked

might be joever

[paper harness]

We play vt2

[rocky nacelle]

no

[lean lark]

dude i was in a pub earlier with a friend, we get a shout knife plasma vet

[rocky nacelle]

I play better games that arent Tide games

[lean lark]

he goes down to 1 unburgled bruiser

and ragequits

[neon field]

what you just said or the other blessings?

[pearl crown]

Does electric damage cause additional stagger? especially on heavy swings

[rocky nacelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1202399927322419230.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[paper harness]

How

[lean lark]

he was level 643

on plasma vet

[paper harness]

Fuck me

How does your brain not turn into soup at that point

[chilly kiln]

If I have another smooth brain vet popping the flamer backpack

[rocky nacelle]

oh dude

[frosty herald]

remove silo cluster from the map pool

[fast tiger]

perfect strike savage sweep was a joke

[chilly kiln]

While I’m a horde

[topaz citrus]

boltpistol perks?

[fast tiger]

the other two were serious

[chilly kiln]

I’m ending it all

[paper harness]

I put 100 levels on plasma and never used it again

[neon field]

oh ok, whooshed over my head

[lean lark]

i never played plasma because its not fun at all

[chilly kiln]

I hate how braindead plasma is

Like

Jesus

[thorn sable]

Others do it because they don’t know. I do it because it’s funny shit watching the guy in the horde run screaming

[lean lark]

prenerf shredder was more engaging than any version of plasma

[chilly kiln]

LOL

[trail mantle]

perfect strike needs the bm treatment(maybe not actually but you get the idea)

[chilly kiln]

Honestly I’ve been launched into a pit like twice by it

[red mesa]

wym gets bricked

[fleet zealot]

no

no way

[chilly kiln]

And both times it really like

[fleet zealot]

i refuse

[chilly kiln]

Annoyed me lol

[paper harness]

I should throw you into the ocean

[rocky nacelle]

I was playing like 2 days or nights ago and I had this fucking plasma psword voc vet, pretty sure i was running TH and flamer anyways man just spams plasma into everything whether its a horde or normal specials/elites, so I let him run ahead for 2 seconds to see if he was remotely any good or just was "good" cause he was next to the team

and he dies in 2 seconds and rage quits