zealot-class

[stone fern]

time for purge deimos now tho

[nimble fiber]

thinking about trying out bolter tho maybe possibly

cause Im sick of zarona

[stone fern]

bolter very based

[frosty herald]

bolter is insanely good now

[stone fern]

bleed also helps scourge get going

[frosty herald]

you can just point it at a general direction of a horde and theyll die

[rocky nacelle]

fire frenzy cavalcade gg

[stone fern]

no

bleed shattering

[frosty herald]

puncturing shattering

[rocky nacelle]

fire frenzy cavalcade or fire frenzy puncture

[nimble fiber]

chocolate milk shattering

[frosty herald]

the variety is good

[lusty oar]

NOOOOOOOOOO MY MILK

[fading vale]

does puncture proc on the explosion at all

[frozen glen]

no

[frosty herald]

no

[nimble fiber]

no

[lusty oar]

no

[fading vale]

no

[frosty herald]

puncture needs a direct hit

[rotund shoal]

wait why puncture am i being trolled

[frosty herald]

and shattering is just all around a good blessing

[frozen glen]

they took away bolter shrapnel review bomb the game

[rotund shoal]

or does the bleed not cap or is it power boosted dot

[frosty herald]

the funny

[rotund shoal]

oh aight

[frozen glen]

puncture hits bps

[fading vale]

6 months ago shattering was pretty worthless even for crushers

[frosty herald]

it also helps since bolter has a low magsize and might not kill everything with it

[rotund shoal]

bleed shouldnt do anything to crushers tho

which is the only thing that is alive after a ff + calvacade burst

[frozen glen]

if you have uncanny itll work

[lean lark]

it added 1 and a half crusher worth of kills

since it applied brittleness your melee could easily finish the crusher off

so you'd kill a crusher pack in one mag

[frosty herald]

since bolter has base rending bleed actually does damage

[fading vale]

oh I suppose also F armor downgrade isnt a thing anymore

[rotund shoal]

no its 100% rending now

[fading vale]

so yeah perhaps slightly more useful

[lean lark]

yeah its just rending on melee now

[frozen glen]

you shoulda been here that patch

it was glorious

[nimble fiber]

when u rly wanna play tide but the bed is too comfortable

[lean lark]

ok yeah shock&awe doesnt let you kill more than 1 elite with the charged on crucis

shit patch

[fading vale]

well its hard coded to stop on elites/specials

[lean lark]

yeah its also hardcoded to stop after exactly 2 enemy kills now

[rocky nacelle]

sex also fire frenzy making it do more damage (unless that’s not real then rip)

[lean lark]

cant kill more than 2 poxs

[rotund shoal]

i wanna see grey achlis 1dmg auric maelstrom 4man

[fading vale]

I'm killing 4 with sna

[lean lark]

with the special overhead

or with the special sweep

[fading vale]

sweep

[lean lark]

yeah overhead stops at 2

[fading vale]

I can cleave through multiple flak shooters to hit an elite on crucis lol

SNA meta clearly

[frozen glen]

sacrificing 25% less dmg just to cleave

[rotund shoal]

aight all this talk of thammers is making me wanna try one

[frozen glen]

sounds like the other thammer to me

[rotund shoal]

sorry for the millionth question but can i get quick bis rundown for crucis

[fading vale]

yes but its funny

[lean lark]

laz' turn

[rotund shoal]

carapace/elite thrust/XXX?

[fading vale]

slaughterer or headtaker

[rotund shoal]

great ty

[fading vale]

also unyielding perk

cara/elite is for raw thrust crusher bp

[lean lark]

uny + elite/cara

[fading vale]

with no buffs

[rotund shoal]

great

[lean lark]

+elite lets you thrust+momentum os crushers

[rotund shoal]

i have a brauto i wanna try out as well so this is perfect

[lean lark]

thammer brauto works well

[rotund shoal]

first roll lmao i love this patch

[stone fern]

hell yeah

imagine just months ago we were begging for one functional item

now we're making one of each mark

[lean lark]

thammer should have a mandatory 5m ordos 500k plasteel and 30k diamantine fee to unlock.

[frozen glen]

you only need one god roll of a mark to get it for all marks

[rotund shoal]

yes im kind of dissociating from the fact that i spent million of ordos and like 20k plasteel to make a hammer that was half as good as this one

and now i rulled a literal god roll in 5 minutes

[stone fern]

i paid that

[tame mirage]

@spare talon post DCS

c:

plz

[lean lark]

only 5m ordos?

pretty little

[naive stirrup]

i have 40k dockies

[rotund shoal]

i like to imagine that our rejects really do have all of these weapons

[tame mirage]

of course

[rotund shoal]

my murderhobo would have to be stashing like 300 space kalashnikovs for months in his room

finally the changes come and he trades them all

like a crazy person

[tame mirage]

it is a trader ship

so

[fast tiger]

the weapons are all canonically scavenged, so people with reeeeaaally nice weapons just started dying on tertium lately

[tame mirage]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fast tiger]

also yeah where do we keep all the grey weapons

do we just have a really really big locker on the mourningstar

[rotund shoal]

"servitor i want 250 shotguns so i can inspect them to see if they have minute differences i care about"

[fast tiger]

“i l-l-l-live to serve,,”

we should be able to give tasks to the traitor turned servitor to bully them change my mind

[rotund shoal]

i think the writing team at fatshark was smoking when they came up with that plotline

yeah the traitor is ||this random person you literally saw once in a cutscene||

[opal star]

it was actually ||multiple times but it was in the background so who tf cares||

[rotund shoal]

i think this is actually a great way to estimate how many people became "regular" players after the initial 120k player boom

5% of all players becoming regulars seems like a likely number for fs games

[fading vale]

SnA throwing knife meta

[pale spindle]

Imagine not dying for the Emporer smh

[glossy sparrow]

for ragers can special l1 with thammer kill

can thammer heavy swings stunlock them?

[rotund shoal]

brauto them

[coarse birch]

probably needs grevious for the first one or 2

[fading vale]

you need more stagger to get them out of swing animation

[coarse birch]

after that i doubt it

[hushed knoll]

Jello Laz and Yoshi

Hello

[glossy sparrow]

ok so i should just brauto them

[coarse birch]

hey stan

[rotund shoal]

much easier

[coarse birch]

yeah brauto them

[fading vale]

and special l1, maybe with max buffs but I haven't tested exactly

[coarse birch]

knife isnt great into rager hordes

[glossy sparrow]

graia or brauto

[coarse birch]

any of them

if you dont brace not graia

[glossy sparrow]

what does bracing even do

just lower recoil?

[coarse birch]

changes recoil pattern that is meant to make it a bit more accurate at range iirc

[glossy sparrow]

oh changes pattern too

[coarse birch]

i think it flattens it?

could be old info

but i never really used it on for anything other than the fire rate on graia

30% faster

[fading vale]

it did flatten it and make it slightly more accurate at range before

[glossy sparrow]

which braced will deal with ragers + do good dps to monstro if i'm unable to get close

[coarse birch]

agri

[glossy sparrow]

aite

they're marks now is it?

[frozen glen]

get dance of death

[glossy sparrow]

so i can swap to agri

[coarse birch]

yeah take DoD

really good for it

[coarse birch]

ye

just swap

nothing really changes

[glossy sparrow]

i always take dod for the two nodes below it

so thammer not so good vs rager

but all else it's the deleter

what's brauto perk blessing

[rotund shoal]

flak maniac

and the close dmg blessings

[slate notch]

Any idea why there's only a single duel sword mk at Brunt's and can't get an accatran?

[sterile stone]

@lean lark My back hurt carrying these pubs man

Came back from a 83-91 defecit

[lean lark]

welcome to my life in team games

[wraith cipher]

is hs bis still db ht?

[lean lark]

yeah

[rotund shoal]

train map normal damnations is the best shit with pubs

its the right level of where if you bring a good mixed horde clear weapon theres a good chance youll win but theres this level of randomness that comes with teammates

that makes it really fun

[pure hare]

I feel like Dream Team is much harder than Flawless Execution, but it has fewer people getting it

[wraith cipher]

dream team is something youll eventually get

flawless you gotta actively go for it

[pure hare]

oh so it's not consecutive?

if no one goes down one game, goes down next, no one goes down after, it counts it?

[wraith cipher]

ya

cause i def didnt do 100 games in a row lmao

[pure hare]

ah thx

[lean lark]

you can get both by just playing in a full team with your friends

achievements dont mean anything

in darktide

[left iron]

Max HT and SA, without momentum, with +elites. 10 stacks of momentum gets you to 1950~, but +maniacs might be a okay roll for thammer to get to the L1 special oneshot?

This is 9 stacks of momentum

[frosty herald]

Got my thunder hammer in rogue trader

Funnily enough cinder was harder than aurora

[glossy sparrow]

did they nerf aurora

i rmbr having to reset a lot

[frosty herald]

I dont think so

I was just very very strong and more knowledgable

[left iron]

Aurora is just a 'dont line up' battle, the hard part is the sniper blasting you from Narnia

[glossy sparrow]

wait, wrong aurora

my bad

ur still early

[placid fiber]

Anything, pretty much

caxe is a generalist weapon

I mean I'm able to get away with using the autopistol with it, you can literally use anything since that's the worst ranged weapon that zealot has access to

IJ or Marty for the caxe

Caxe isn't a crit weapon

[paper harness]

Low crit weapon

[placid fiber]

I mean IJ you get 20% cdr on backstab kill, marty you can get a permanent attack speed bonus

[paper harness]

Does anything else need to be said

That’s useless

[placid fiber]

That's like taking the cdr on health damage node for marty...

[rocky marsh]

whats the problem with having people better than you?

[wraith cipher]

wow i got like 6 points to all my weapons this morning out of nowhere

[paper harness]

IJ means you don’t have to take unarmored

[placid fiber]

You mostly want to light spam with a caxe

You only really heavy ogryn elites, maulers, or monsters

[rocky marsh]

also don't use piety with caxe

[wraith cipher]

isnt the crit multiplier on caxe not worth it anyway?

[placid fiber]

caxe is good enough you can get away with piety on it... but that's the same as the knife is good enough you can get away with using marty with it...

just because it is good enough to get away with it, doesn't mean you aren't hampering yourself

knife for one

dueling sword I bet

[rocky marsh]

cknife, uh whats the zealot maul called again

crusher weapon

[dry hill]

knife is the best weapon

no contest

[rocky marsh]

i think caxe is much better than knife
I find knife more fun though

[fast tiger]

Rashad is a finesse weapon so ostensibly it’s fine but I doubt it provides many if any bps

[dry hill]

the thammers are actually good again

better even

[rocky marsh]

its also how you wont get the hit on bleed proc since you kill enemies in 1 hit

[placid fiber]

rashad is great at mulching trash >.>

[hard nexus]

borderline OP now actually

[wraith cipher]

damn 4 perfect rolls in 1 day jesus

[placid fiber]

The thammer deserves to be OP, tho

[dry hill]

yeah actually

they really do

they're thammers

[placid fiber]

thammers deserve to be op

[wraith cipher]

sm2 would like a word

[placid fiber]

they're thammers ffs

[indigo quartz]

is TWBS still any good? not stopping ranged stuns seems like it killed it

[dry hill]

im glad because im having so much fun taking out a boss' health by half

[placid fiber]

It still stops melee hit stuns...

blaze away penetrating flames, I think

[dry hill]

i use blaze away and quick flame

[indigo quartz]

kinda considering the movespeed buff

even if it got nerfed

[wraith cipher]

blaze overpressure?

[placid fiber]

Not getting hitstunned into 5 more melee hits by that 1 poxwalker you didn't know about is kinda nice

[frozen kernel]

Damage blessings aren’t really needed on the flamer rn from what I’ve seen

[hard nexus]

darktide does thunder hammers soooo much better than space marine 2

[fast tiger]

20% brittleness makes it so you can kill crushers reasonably

[indigo quartz]

im a dedicated block + slide spammer

so that doesn't really happen

[wraith cipher]

ironically yeah its a horde wep in sm2 lol

[dry hill]

thats why i only use blaze away on mine and quick flame for reload speed

[pure token]

The issue would be that people would be able to outperform you by memorising button combos (instead of positioning and teamwork) if they were rewarded with buffs for completing complex techs

[hard nexus]

900+ damage per tick to a bulwark says otherwise

[placid fiber]

I am a vt2 vet, so I'm all about avoiding melee hits. They still slip through sometimes

[hard nexus]

it’s one of the reasons i do not like sm2

[placid fiber]

And at the worst times when I'm on my Vet

[fast tiger]

well frankly up to this point you should not have been using carapace because adding 25% of 5% is nothing. but yes now carapace is fine

[dry hill]

10% reload speed and damage to flak

but thats the speed run build

you can use others

[solid yew]

hmm

[fast tiger]

yes that is the use case

[hard nexus]

depends what you need

if your melee is good at armor (thunder hammer, knife, mk15 evis, etc) run blaze away with either overpressure or inspiring barrage. OP gives you much more damage (900+ per tick) and inspiring barrage makes using flamer very safe

if you can’t handle armor, blaze away and penetrating flames

[placid fiber]

I mean flamer is powerful regardless of blessings, tbh

[vocal pulsar]

Appreciate the honesty. That was big of you.

[indigo quartz]

yeah peneetrating flames is feeling overkill

[dry hill]

the 10% is prob negligible

[hard nexus]

as for perks, BA+OP/IB wants unyielding maniac, with penetrating flames you want carapace unyielding

[indigo quartz]

it doesn't make enough difference on crushers

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[indigo quartz]

and the toughness/reload safety

[fast tiger]

why would you say something so controversial yet so brave

[frozen kernel]

Some peeps were talking shit yesterday. I haven’t gotten to upgrade my mastery much so I’m inclined to agree lol

[indigo quartz]

is probably safer

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-cringe-cringe-oh-no-kimo-kimmo-gif-23168319

[indigo quartz]

bulwarks get cooked by fire

unyielding takes what

1.5x? 2x? from burn ticks

[hard nexus]

BA OP is great anti bulwark weapon, which is the main reason i run it

[fast tiger]

this is a good gif. u are redeemed

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

[dry hill]

quick flame make it a 36% reload speed on empty and feel so much better

[hard nexus]

it does 200+ damage to crushers

per tick

[frozen kernel]

[lunar fable]

[fast tiger]

ya but now there’s much more competitive options

[placid fiber]

That emote is amazing

[hard nexus]

and the fact it’s brittleness means all damage is increased

[indigo quartz]

doubt. i have blaze away and penetrating flames 4 and 25% carapace

[fast tiger]

well, not to unarmored or infested, but otherwise ya

[indigo quartz]

caps at 137

[hard nexus]

idk what to tell you, i was doing 200 damage to crushers

[indigo quartz]

137< 200

[hard nexus]

i can test it

[fast tiger]

TEST! TEST! TEST!

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/bobbyhill-kingofthehill-purse-gif-5029005

[fast tiger]

SHOW ME UR NUMBIES

[dry hill]

well i play zealot all the time so needed for me and the flammer is honestly op anyway so the reload doesnt make it weaker

[placid fiber]

did you have the +25% ranged damage at close range talent?

[solemn sorrel]

Hey so I had max vals 80/80/80/61/80 but after empowering the values changed to 79/80/80/52/80.. why is that? Sorry in advance because I'm a noob

[indigo quartz]

yes

[placid fiber]

Did you have: Sanity

[hard nexus]

rounding errors, they’ll be fixed soon

[fast tiger]

i main zealot since launch, but ya with pen flame or over pressure you don’t need throughput because everything should be dead in a canister. you can reload at your leisure

[fast tiger]

probably just a bug

if you start upgrading it it would shock me if it didn’t sort itself out

[fleet zealot]

Alright im killing the shark

[placid fiber]

What about zealot not getting the recon?

[indigo quartz]

standing at pointblank makes it do 141

[placid fiber]

[fast tiger]

don’t strike though. U are right and should say it

[placid fiber]

but I don't care if we get the recon... lol

[fast tiger]

this is so sad what

[lunar fable]

just saw a vet

with a ciag that had 60% dmg max potential

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepoleave-gif-20075315

[fast tiger]

honestly without shock trooper or onslaught I don’t see the point other than class parity

[fast tiger]

u just played with tanner that’s so cool

[placid fiber]

I mean... with dum dum it would be nice for long ranged special/elite killing

[lunar fable]

he was also shooting like every trash mob that was standing alone

[fast tiger]

isn’t dumdum repeated hits do specifically increased close range damage lol

[placid fiber]

Sniper killing with a recon is much easier than with a brauto/autopistol

[placid fiber]

I stand corrected

[fast tiger]

i mean there’s always infernus headhunter

[lunar fable]

if only vet pugs shot snipers with their recon las instead of the walkers

[placid fiber]

That sounds more like a monster killing bs build lol

[hard nexus]

you were right

my bad

i mustve had it mixed up in game

sorry

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-cat-shock-shocked-flabbergasted-surprised-gif-6472373116831647779

[fast tiger]

on a BP build you could probably just spray left and right at head height at a wall of gunners and get a bunch of burn kills

[placid fiber]

Oh, true, I wasn't thinking blazing piety

[fast tiger]

but ya it’s mostly an unyielding thing

[placid fiber]

I love that pic lol

[glossy sparrow]

hand me my accatran critter

pew pew pew pew pew

[placid fiber]

Honestly we do really need zealots to start reconning hordes?

[fast tiger]

not even a little

[placid fiber]

We already have vets and psykers doing that lol

[fast tiger]

the worst part of that to me is the vets can theoretically get away with it with the right build but never actually have that build when they’re gunning down horde after horde

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[tame rapids]

yeah to the bin the shockmaul goes, lightning reflexes was the only thing that made it unique in my eyes

[indigo quartz]

no worries

[fast tiger]

i still preferred skrusher high voltage but that’s a dumb blessing change

[placid fiber]

Honestly lightning reflexes didn't really interest me, but, yeah that's a dumb change

[tame rapids]

it allowed you to stun hordes of ragers, but now it usually goes on CD from a random mob hitting your block pretty sad change

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

[drifting wolf]

what armor do the 21st groaners use

flak?

[fast tiger]

flak presumably ya

[placid fiber]

Probably flak yeah lol

[indigo quartz]

does thrust 4 make any BPs on the dueling sword?

[drifting wolf]

just a lot of flak armor then

[indigo quartz]

shred and the power on repeated hit on same enemy don't feel good

[fast tiger]

with the right stuff you can get a crusher OHK

[placid fiber]

I mean it felt the exact same to me with a caxe

[indigo quartz]

even shred with blazing piety

[placid fiber]

with these buffs lists the 30 buffs you need

I am starting to wake up now that I've had my morning coffee

Now maybe I can go get that heavy sword for my Vet, that melk has

[fast tiger]

duelist and precog and this damage node and a full moon and

[obtuse solstice]

I've been running agile and precog

[placid fiber]

I needed to do 1 more run on my zealot to get the melk bucks for it

but I was so fucking tired last night

[fast tiger]

feel like in general agile is nice but redundant

dueling swords already have excellent dodges

[placid fiber]

Agile is really only useful for panic gamers, imo

[fast tiger]

and a lot of competitive blessings

[placid fiber]

For us people who dodge constantly out of instinct

Well or auric maelstrom players

[obtuse solstice]

it's definitely not needed but I don't feel like I need more dmg so the utility is nice

[fast tiger]

I’ll do all auric maelstroms but the pox bursters ones and I’m still meh on agile

gimme uncanny precog/riposte

I’m goin tin can hunting

[placid fiber]

This is all I need to do to get what I want lol

[rose dagger]

Hello, silly question, did they buff zealot speed? I haven't played in about 2 or 3 months but I used the same load out as I previously had and it felt so fast and fluid and fun when I played last night, I'm using combat knife and revolver and could see myself sprinting multiple times faster than my sharpshooter and psykers

[fast tiger]

actually they nerfed a sprint speed talent lol

[exotic raft]

was there some sort of change to mastery? I logged in and suddenly have way more.

[rose dagger]

Really? Is this just a cognitive thing where it feels like it's faster? I haven't changed anything but it felt much better than last time I played, if anything just for my speed and what not

[violet hornet]

Knife makes you run faster

[rose dagger]

True but it's the same load out as I had before but it felt as though it was faster than before I left

[obtuse solstice]

am I blind or is recon lasgun not at brunt

[fast tiger]

also there’s a bunch of rusty players because it’s a major patch who might be running very low mobility weapons

[fast tiger]

it’s bugged for the time being for zealots

[exotic raft]

you can still pick it up in the regular stores

[rose dagger]

That's fair as well, maybe it's just me misremembering or something but I'll have to investigate more after work

[placid fiber]

I got a fuck ton more mastery between last night and this morning lol

My heavy sword went from just at the 400 mastery line to fully mastered

[indigo quartz]

same here

was a nice surprise

[placid fiber]

I also somehow got to the 500 mastery line on taxes

my autopistol is almost fully maxed as well lol

[indigo quartz]

i love being able to like

swap marks

one of hte better changes imo

also godddaaaaamn do I love dueling sword

epic pokey stick

[placid fiber]

There I just maxed my autopistol out lol

Oh sweet I got t4 perks for my thammer now

[exotic raft]

yeah, no idea why but I guess some sort of bug was fixed overnight

[placid fiber]

Ain't perfect, but, good enough for now. :3

[grizzled aspen]

If you swap your perks to cara + elite you can 1tap crushers without any additional buffs.

[exotic raft]

what perks are people running for dueling sword now?

[vocal pulsar]

Carapace is a must

[grizzled aspen]

Pretty sure it's carapace and flak.

[placid fiber]

I ain't removing unyielding lol

It's all I know on the thammer

[grizzled aspen]

There's no reason to run it for bulwarks and reapers.

You'll 1shot them anyway.

[placid fiber]

I ain't running it for bulwarks or reapers

[exotic raft]

I'm still tempted to swap thrust or precog for uncanny

[grizzled aspen]

Well then you're a little goofy...

[exotic raft]

precog because it's only 2 seconds, thrust because I keep forgetting to use it

[grizzled aspen]

Both of you...

[fast tiger]

he clearly wanna bomk monsters

[grizzled aspen]

Uncanny won't be doing anything because you can brute force crusher 1taps.

[shy kestrel]

What curios are usually ran on Zealot?

[placid fiber]

And?

[exotic raft]

I want that more for just diving into hordes

precog just seems like it's not active as often as I want it, maybe that's just a me issue

[grizzled aspen]

This is painful to look at, though I also do prefer the agri autogun.

[placid fiber]

Oh right I didn't fix the 20% maniac

There

[grizzled aspen]

Fire frenzy instead of inspiring barrage...

Do it...

[placid fiber]

And I won't use the brauto then

I've gone over this time and time again when I had hit and run on instead of inspiring barrage

[fast tiger]

i mean inspiring barrage isn’t bad

[fleet zealot]

Just go fire frenzy maximize the damage ramp

More dakka

[exotic raft]

what do you need for the one taps anyhow? I was told you just need thrust but it doesn't seem to be the case in testing, though I'm not getting all my buffs here.

[fast tiger]

if you’re in an oh shit moment it gives good toughness

I prefer two damage blessings tho for the artificial increase to total ammo

[placid fiber]

And then I won't use it, because the safety blessing is the only reason the brauto even registers for me as a weapon to use in the first place

You guys don't game like I do, in the first place

[fast tiger]

Cole was using FOTF duelist precog thrust for crusher OHKs iirc

[exotic raft]

oh, that doesn't help against a group of them

[fast tiger]

I’m just sayin

the rest of them probably become easy two talks once FOTF is down

[exotic raft]

why does dueling sword's special stagger crushers

that is mad

[fast tiger]

and if you’re using BP it’ll come back up in ten seconds which isn’t insane

[glad wren]

Last night, I read few things about what Talents to use for Heavy Eviscerator. Mainly the bottom right tree, IJ. I've been mainly using bottom left, Blazing Piety.

Would it be wise to switch to bottom right instead?

[fast tiger]

but it’s not uncommon to kite out elite patrols for ten or twenty seconds in bad situations

[rocky marsh]

is that already not the ccase with the weapon combos lol.
And whats the issue with people being able to outperform you by memorizing button combos?

[placid fiber]

Wait they buffed this?

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

5% > 6.5%

[placid fiber]

Didn't even realize cuz I didn't check lol

[lunar fable]

lol

tbh i don't blame this guy

power supply is so lame

[fast tiger]

JFV

[grizzled aspen]

IJ will be better for consistent damage and helps a lot with eviscerator's poor mobility.

[fast tiger]

jesus fucking vhrist

[grizzled aspen]

Piety is more for a better cdr on your ult.

[exotic raft]

I'll stick to the stealth skill, I like the playstyle

[pure hare]

how does matyrdom work
do you just purposely take damage

[grizzled aspen]

No.

[fast tiger]

oh then I mean. probably still doing OHKs with that

[grizzled aspen]

Take chip damage and just don't heal.

[fast tiger]

i mean if you really want to

you can play normally and basically inevitably marty will come up

[exotic raft]

oh yeah, just fine

speaking of bp, why does it sometimes hit 25 but not trigger the buff

[fast tiger]

i play Marty usually as a tank class that is good in the oh shit situations so taking damage on purpose would be counterintuitive for me

[wraith cipher]

just play normally if you health goes down it goes down

[fleet zealot]

In low diffs yes, in high diffs you let chip damage build up

[fast tiger]

use the damage reduction if it goes past a wound talent and you have drastically increased health practically

[fleet zealot]

And you just dont heal unless you have a ton of corruption or if your team is struggling before a an event

[rotund shoal]

i swear i just cant rev at all with the ranged shooter changes

[fleet zealot]

If you dont mind skipping twbs, take that and restoring faith (heal 25% of hp damage taken over 5 seconds) you can meme extra procs

[wraith cipher]

so is mastery updating as we go on? cause i got more points this morning

[fleet zealot]

Do you have twbs?

[rotund shoal]

yes

[fleet zealot]

Yes

[rotund shoal]

doesnt work on ranged stuns anymore

[fast tiger]

i usually do reach for that talent as well but can’t remember if I sacrifice TWBS for it

full “fuck u i wont die” build

[exotic raft]

I really wish the specials explode blessing on flamer was good

[rotund shoal]

ive had ppl quit cuz i wont rev them but if theres 2 shooters anywhere in the horde i literally cant

[exotic raft]

one of the other benefits of the stealth skill

[fleet zealot]

I dont know what weapon you are using specifically

[rotund shoal]

eviscerator but it doesnt matter

its ranged dmg

[fast tiger]

I think I usually do something like this in silly zealot tank build https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d1c679c-253c-4948-815e-c5aa4fb806e2

[exotic raft]

as soon as I mention the bp bug I am unable to recreate it

[fast tiger]

haven’t fiddled with a Marty build in quite some time tho

[fleet zealot]

You shouldn’t need to use rev on evi even if it is nice but use enemies as cover, dodge the shots and try to take then around a corner

[rotund shoal]

No i mean revive

[fleet zealot]

Lmao

[exotic raft]

I need more loadout slots badly

[fleet zealot]

Rev

Fucking hell

[rotund shoal]

rezz

whatever

rizz

[fast tiger]

john ur a butt

[exotic raft]

please don't rizz me up mid game

I want a loadout slot so I can use beacon of purity for the penance without deleting any of my builds

[rotund shoal]

im rubber youre glue

[vast basin]

Embrace mods

[exotic raft]

I guess it's about time for it

[fast tiger]

I can’t believe uve done this

[exotic raft]

do I lose all my modded loadout slots after updates

[vast basin]

No

[mossy scarab]

Gonna turn around and give you those crazy eyes as a beast of nurgle devours me whole

[vast basin]

But some updates reset your talent trees on certain classes

Regardless if you have mods

So just be aware of that

[exotic raft]

I mean the mods break between updates, right?

[vast basin]

Occasionally

[exotic raft]

I've meant to at least get mods to make the thrust icon more visible

[vast basin]

I only had like 2 mods I had to update this patch

[exotic raft]

so I should take a look

Do I need to do a new launcher or is the game built to accept mods with the usual launcher

[vast basin]

No new launcher or anything

[exotic raft]

nice

[vast basin]

https://youtu.be/xQtXFlxPiho

[exotic raft]

I just need to avoid the fashion mods, I don't want that emperor's new clothes thing where only I see my armor

[hard nexus]

there’s a mod for that, if you’re on pc

[exotic raft]

yeah, someone told me

[hard nexus]

oh nvm

yeah

[exotic raft]

I just hope the game gets steam workshop like vt2

[queen oyster]

Is it just me but I don't see all weapons at Hedron to buy ?

[hard nexus]

marks can now be swapped between each other, buy one weapon from the family, and work sufficient mastery, you can switch the marks around

swapping marks can be done in your inventory

[queen oyster]

Oh ty nice

[rustic steppe]

Crit recon las how we feel bout it?

[exotic raft]

Okay, I recreated it. Where buff?

[hard nexus]

best on vet and psyker, not very good on zealot

[wraith cipher]

still feel like its better on psyker and vet

[hard nexus]

which buff

[exotic raft]

bp

I got my 25 stacks

where's my buff

[fast tiger]

it’s the one that says 25

wdym

[rustic steppe]

It seems like it'd be good with blazing piety.

[rotund shoal]

theres a mod to see your crit chance

[exotic raft]

here's the buff procced

second icon

25 is the counter to get the buff

[rotund shoal]

your buffs look bugged

cuz of the space between them

[fast tiger]

buffs are just janky as is

[rotund shoal]

happens to me all the time on dd psyker

[fast tiger]

it doesn’t always show what you have up and it’s been that way for months

[exotic raft]

that's the space between aura and coherency and buffs

[placid fiber]

Welp, I got my baby maxed out :3

[exotic raft]

how many wound relics do you guys run for martrydom? Is it worth it over health/toughness?

[rotund shoal]

yes all wound relics

[exotic raft]

thanks

[placid fiber]

Personally I do 2 wound 1 toughness, but, the general thing is all wound

[hard nexus]

run at least 2, i run 3, but some like a toughness curio

[placid fiber]

lol meow just summed me up in that xD

[exotic raft]

Honestly I have no idea what to run for curios anyway

[rotund shoal]

3x toughness 3x health

[placid fiber]

I do all toughness unless marty

[rotund shoal]

esp on martyr

[placid fiber]

on zealot

[exotic raft]

running toughness regen, gunner, and sniper 🤷‍♂️

[placid fiber]

on vet I do 2 health 1 toughness

[rotund shoal]

rest is preference but stam regen and gunner yea

[exotic raft]

not for martyrdom, in general

[placid fiber]

I ogryn I do 2 toughness 1 health or 1 toughness 2 health

[grizzled aspen]

You don't want more hp on martyrdom.

You actually want less.

[rotund shoal]

you want higher hp

[grizzled aspen]

Which is why that 10% hp node you HAVE to path through angers me.

[rotund shoal]

i was talking about +3 stam curios

[fleet zealot]

All wound, take minor hp and toughness to compensate

[rotund shoal]

you want higher max hp i mean

[exotic raft]

I have yet to see a 3 stam curio

[placid fiber]

Yeah marty is all wound with 3 5 toughness 5 health buffs pretty much

[exotic raft]

that's my general setup, not my martyr setup. Would feel a bit naked without gunner resist, though.

[grizzled aspen]

You still don't want more max hp.

[fleet zealot]

Get melk tokens and play the gacha

[lusty oar]

2 wound martyr

[fleet zealot]

The 250 curio

[rotund shoal]

Yes you do youre not planning to lose it all immediately

It means you have more chip damage

[lusty oar]

skip the +2 talent

[fast tiger]

toughness regen bad

[grizzled aspen]

I run toughness, gunner resist, and ordo dockets on all my martyr curios.

[exotic raft]

Is it? It feels great on ogryn.

[placid fiber]

Like how they made power cycler t3 equal to what t4 was before

[fast tiger]

that’s perhaps the only class you should use it on

[fleet zealot]

Of course you would be the one bringing back feats

[plucky gate]

toughness regen is especially bad on zealot because of how much we're in melee

[grizzled aspen]

That's because it's based on your overall toughness, and ogryn has an insane amount of toughness to begin with.

[paper harness]

Mastery completed

Kino

[plucky gate]

coherency regen stops working when you're in melee with a melee enemy

[fast tiger]

it just affects coherency regen which doesn’t do anything when you’re a zealot in the shit

[grizzled aspen]

Also ogryn has a shorter delay on toughness regen from coherency, iirc.

[exotic raft]

so what should I run for my non martyr builds? Right now I have gunner, sniper, and some toughness

[grizzled aspen]

Drop sniper resistance for hp.

[exotic raft]

no sniper resist at all?

[grizzled aspen]

I have no idea if it's still bugged and only works on their kick but it isn't worth it when you can just reposition to not get shot.

[fleet zealot]

Only coherency regen build is pure gunlugger purposefully avoiding heavy attack toughness gen

[fast tiger]

keep in mind resists have reduced effectiveness as you stack them

[hard nexus]

3x toughness, 2 gunner resist, 3 toughness, 3 hp

[grizzled aspen]

Also, typically, snipers get instakilled by somebody.

[hard nexus]

the last perk is up to you

[exotic raft]

this is what I have

[fleet zealot]

On left side ogryn you dont need coherency regen either

[fast tiger]

I’m pretty sure it works as intended now?

[exotic raft]

thanks

[hard nexus]

it was fixed

[rotund shoal]

one +3 stam should always be considered

[grizzled aspen]

Drop all the toughness regen speed for straight up toughness, it doesn't help you at all.

[placid fiber]

Man... I still wanna try bladed momentum on my Vet, even tho I know deathblow is the way to go

[rotund shoal]

it comes in way more useful than just a stat boost a lot of times

[fleet zealot]

Toughness regen speed to toughness, 1 set of resistances turned to hp, and the last gunner resist turned into sniper resistance

[exotic raft]

I lack your faith in my pugs

[fleet zealot]

Dont 3x resistances

It had diminishing returns

[placid fiber]

I ain't giving up headtaker tho

[fast tiger]

drop at least one sniper and one gunner and all toughness regen and replace with combinations of hp, toughness and stam regen imo

[grizzled aspen]

3x of one resistance factors to something like 48% resistance or something iirc.

[hard nexus]

i disagree with stam on zealot, but then again i’m also desperation-pilled so

[fleet zealot]

3x minor hp, 3x minor toughness, 2 gunner resistance and 1x sniper resistance for the breakpoint

[exotic raft]

Thanks

[placid fiber]

Yeah don't do what I do, which is run 3 gunner resists. You're losing out by taking the 3rd resist >.>

[plucky gate]

imo you only need just enough sniper res to survive 2 shots

[fast tiger]

agree

that’s why I just take one

[exotic raft]

I know about the diminishing returns, and I did know 2 sniper was overkill

[plucky gate]

that's uh, pretty excessive

[exotic raft]

I just had no idea what else was worth it

[rotund shoal]

i think the extra few push attacks and better block is worth more than extra toughness. i never take desperation

[plucky gate]

how much do you hate gunners?

[placid fiber]

I'm excessive

[placid fiber]

Yes

[fast tiger]

the answer will be yes

called it

[exotic raft]

I basically built my class around sneaking up to gunners and stabbing them in the brain

so a lot

[plucky gate]

I take 1 gunner res on some classes to give me a bit of time to react

[glad wren]

Thank you. Cooldown rate was the main reason why I used Blazing Piety. Will the CdR take a big plumet with swapping to IJ?
Occasionally I swap the Evis with a Crusher. Idk if that matters, but I like my variety for weapons in a single build

[rotund shoal]

yes

[placid fiber]

But this is exactly why I said don't do what I do, it doesn't work for everyone >.>

[rotund shoal]

it takes more active playing to get cdr via the backstab node

in hordes its easier by side dodging but even then the crit cdr node has more uptime

[fast tiger]

DPW stop pushing your advice on people unconditionally omg bro

[rotund shoal]

but ij makes evis feel a lot better to use

[exotic raft]

crit node especially post buff is insanely strong

[placid fiber]

Tru, fine... take 3 gunner resist if u want...

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

[fast tiger]

whenever I see that gif I just imagine how bad that cat’s sinuses must feel

[placid fiber]

Horrible I would imagine

[exotic raft]

Stop feeling the poor cat's sinuses

[fast tiger]

you can’t fucking stop me

[placid fiber]

^

Welp, I now have a workable sword for until I can get a perfectly rolled on for my Vet

This is what I had before lol

[rotund shoal]

just make a godroll

[placid fiber]

I will when I have the time to

[rotund shoal]

its super cheap now

[placid fiber]

I want a useable one now

damn it

[placid fiber]

I also don't have the dockets to change the 8% specialists to 25% unarmored/maniac yet lol

[placid fiber]

I spent them all on this

[lunar fable]

man the bolter feels great

[hushed knoll]

Blab

[lunar fable]

stan

[solemn sorrel]

Hey guys what blessings do you recommend for a XV Eviscerator?

[glad wren]

This Heavy Evis is the one ive been running with for ages. Mainly on that crit/BP build, but can't wait to get some proper upgrades. With IJ

For blessings, is Rampage + Savage Sweep the way to go? Or shred + Rampage fine?

[fleet zealot]

Mk15 does not want sweep

Mk15 wants shred rampage or bloodthirsty rampage

[flint birch]

I am a happy man.

[glad wren]

Bloodthirsty eh? Is that the crit chance after Rev'd kill?
Interesting, thank you

[fast tiger]

80% damage, garbage roll, turn it into dockets and mats

[paper harness]

https://www.vxreddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/VWEmsWTGud

https://tenor.com/view/coal-mid-joshinferno-bad-soyjak-gif-12718961185158622820

[grizzled aspen]

Yup, it lets you chain crusher 1shots.

[umbral yoke]

Has anyone tried the dueling sword yet? If so, how are you running it?

[lethal tree]

Running knife zealot speedy boi and just hit 30 - any advice on Curios setup?

I kinda feel like I just want max toughness and some stam

[formal locust]

whats the best autogun for zealot?

[fleet zealot]

100% at t4 yea, good for rev'd l1 into hordes and chaining h1 heavies into crushers

[lethal tree]

I was going to max out knife first since i'm new

[fleet zealot]

uncanny+thrust or precog (or thrust precog but i don't like both together tbh)

[umbral yoke]

Have you gotten it to be able to 1shot groaners/infested with lights?

Seems like a critical thing to get for damnation+

[grizzled aspen]

Remember revved lights don't have a target cap, too!

[fleet zealot]

rev'd lights can

[fleet zealot]

i thought it's a cap of 6 or 8

[grizzled aspen]

Oh it might have a cap, then.

[umbral yoke]

Rev'd? With a dueling sword?

[formal locust]

whats the best autogun for zealot?

[fleet zealot]

2 different weapons sorry

my bad

[umbral yoke]

Depends on what you're trying to do.

[fleet zealot]

i was on the evi conversation

in my head

[grizzled aspen]

I just noticed in the psykhanium that I can cleave the whole group of poxers with a revved light.

And kill the 5th one.

[formal locust]

i use melee just need something for snipers and gunners

[fleet zealot]

you should be able to with martyrdom and if not, martyrdoms sheer attack speed will make up for it, ds4 best pairing is probably flamer tho

[grizzled aspen]

Kid named IJ:

[fleet zealot]

i'm pretty sure precog duelist will let you 1 shot horde on lights

[hushed knoll]

HELLO ICE CREAM SUNDAE FROG

[grizzled aspen]

(you will be untouchable)

[fleet zealot]

but it's not the main draw of the weapon the main draw it can oneshot everything crusher and below

and that it's super mobile and quick

[lunar fable]

fuck it double unyielding bolter

[grizzled aspen]

WHAT

[hushed knoll]

Frogcast notice me

[lunar fable]

it's just a visual bug

[fleet zealot]

peak

[formal locust]

i just need something for sipers and gunners that are annoying me

[umbral yoke]

Then take the las pistol. Does that job just fine without the downsides of the autoguns.

[formal locust]

cawpy

[grizzled aspen]

Agri will kill in the fewest amount of shots if you insist on an autogun.

Laspistols are gas though.

Run with an AP melee to deal with armor and its very solid.

[formal locust]

i will take your word for it

[formal locust]

vigilant or infantry

[tough matrix]

Howdy Fellow rejects. I'm asking all the other Classes this and that's out of the 3 voices which is the best/your favorite?

[fleet zealot]

posting this to help with the conversation

[fleet zealot]

female fanatic

[exotic raft]

I feel like shotguns aren't great but this randomly dropped. Can I make it good?

[exotic raft]

I hate the new staff names so much. Where's the style?

[stone fern]

Male Judge ONLY

everyone else fukin SUCKS

[fleet zealot]

is numeric ui fixed?

i saw it was last updated 26th

[stone fern]

ye its good

[fleet zealot]

latest update

[placid fiber]

It isn't giving me errors rn

[polar nexus]

Can confirm

[placid fiber]

tfw you get too excited to perfectly bless your revolver... and you put gloryhunter on over surgical...

[hushed knoll]

Is this a “better than” list

[hushed knoll]

Hello Keet

[placid fiber]

and then you also only have enough dockets to put t2 surgical back on over gloryhunter...

[umbral yoke]

For the dueling sword, what do you guys think for a dump stat?

[exotic raft]

speaking of dockets, I better get to work collecting books

[coarse birch]

No

[exotic raft]

mobility

[hushed knoll]

What is it

[umbral yoke]

Do you have one like that? I bought 10 and literally all of them had 80% mobility.

[coarse birch]

Name changes

[exotic raft]

rng

[fleet zealot]

no it's name change list

[hushed knoll]

Oh

[umbral yoke]

Huh. You take that thing into aurics?

[hushed knoll]

I can contribute to a name change list if you want

[fleet zealot]

i forget stan may actually play darktide

[coarse birch]

You do that everyday stan

[fleet zealot]

and is not just a mere fae creature that stalks this discord

[exotic raft]

na, I'm a scrub who barely does damnation

[hushed knoll]

I meant for bandit’s personal list

I am not half bad at darktide if I do say so myself

[coarse birch]

Those are official stan

[umbral yoke]

Ah. I thought that might be the cause. Mobility is much less important down there.

[fleet zealot]

just don't name the flamethrower stan

[exotic raft]

People roll full mobility for damnation? A centimeter longer dodge probably won't help.

[fleet zealot]

it's literally post damnation tryhards

no offense to them

they are great players

[exotic raft]

oh, I meant to write auric

[fleet zealot]

but if you are pubbing auric damns and maels you don't need 20% more mobility for slightly more speed

[exotic raft]

I'm having trouble choosing mastery here

[fleet zealot]

i'm meaning auric, 80% mobility players tend to be doing duos and solo runs in auric

or full premades with people they know and trust

[exotic raft]

right, I guess in that case you might want to go full speed

[lean lark]

the difference in speed is meaningless

[exotic raft]

I'm doing non auric pubs and sprinting miles faster than my team at 24 mobility already

dueling sword is fast

[fleet zealot]

like, before this patch dont want to dump mobility under 55/50% mobility would lose you a dodge

but since that is literally impossible now at max potential

it doesn't matter for the vast majority of players

[exotic raft]

yeah

so is tac axe as bad as people say?

how's combat axe?

[fleet zealot]

it's exceedingly mid

it's usuable

combat axe is great

[exotic raft]

Guess I'll try that next

[coarse birch]

Combat axe is probably the best melee in the game

[glad wren]

Oh snap. I can see that being better than Shred. Thank you

[exotic raft]

shred is just lower maintenance

I turn my brain off too often in this game

hence why I am a scrub, but keeping track of buffs is not my style

keep forgetting to charge thrust 🤷‍♂️

[rotund shoal]

yes thats why i love shred

[fleet zealot]

crusher walks into the room

[rotund shoal]

nothing better than seeing a mauler pop from a random light cuz crit

[coarse birch]

Crusher is also up there yeah

[exotic raft]

Oh yeah, maybe I should do crusher first

[exotic raft]

I tried to roll it shortly before the patch and got a double impact crusher

[coarse birch]

DS competes with it now as well id say

[exotic raft]

and while wading into hordes and parting them like fucking Moses was fun I want a good crusher

dueling sword is nutty

it has it all

[formal locust]

why are weapons missing from brunts armory?

[exotic raft]

just recon lasgun

[fleet zealot]

you swap marks freely now

[formal locust]

wdym?

[exotic raft]

Hmm, I should see how tiny the armory looks for ogryn

[fleet zealot]

recon is missing but there is no more variants in shop cause you just swap marks

[fleet zealot]

go to your inventory

click a weapon

click marks

[exotic raft]

this is kind of sad

ogyrn has 11 weapons

[fleet zealot]

Oh i just got a lot of xp for logging in to the day

[exotic raft]

yeah, lot of us got a burst of mastery today

[fleet zealot]

heck yea

[grizzled aspen]

The graia is the good vigilant one, it's the single fire model. The agri infantry is the one I was referring to. Sorry I didn't reply quickly, I'm at work.

[formal locust]

BRUH

I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THIS FOR 2 DAYS

[fleet zealot]

it's okay

the majority of darktide players don't read or if they are visual learners, didn't go watch the official guide video fatshark had bricky make

[formal locust]

shouldnt have to watch a vid

[plucky gate]

I've literally never watched the videos in the launcher

I just assumed they were all shit

[fleet zealot]

you could've read the blog and patch notes

[solar gorge]

it ain't that convoluted, just have everything unlocked pre-patch and now you just have to click a few times

[fleet zealot]

i'm not saying anyone had to watch the vid

[rotund shoal]

it could have come to you in a dream

[full nebula]

Whats good for tac axes? Shred/Brutal Momentum?

[fleet zealot]

but fatshark had 2 different formats of guides on how the new system worked

[formal locust]

whats a patch notes

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-png-speech-bubble-gif-26086226

[plucky gate]

they could've had a tutorial in the actual game like how most game information should be conveyed

[fleet zealot]

i don't think they needed a full in game tutorial, that would have became really cluttered and overwhelming

[plucky gate]

patch notes are not a timeless tutorial either. People in the future aren't gonna read every old patch note

[solar gorge]

you have a help button bottom right if you're desperate

[red mesa]

they're going to nerf dueling sword arent they lol

[fleet zealot]

or they just keep going the full power creep route

[plucky gate]

they will buff everything until every build is invincible with infinite damage

[fast tiger]

it’s possible but the DS has exceedingly mid cheap horde clear so who’s to say

[fleet zealot]

it's not really mid or cheap, it's just light spam

[fast tiger]

they might consider it in a decent place

[fleet zealot]

sure it's not the fastest

but it does the job especially with zealot boosts now

[fast tiger]

cheap is not a description of the DS but the horde

[fleet zealot]

i see

i just know

i've been getting killstreak lines vs horde

[fast tiger]

I haven’t used it on zealot yet but I have used it on melee vet and I was very unimpressed by the horde clear

[exotic raft]

buff everything, add higher difficulties 🤷‍♂️

[fleet zealot]

for spamming lights and occassionally PA

[fast tiger]

maybe it’s better on zealot for whatever reason

[exotic raft]

the push attack feels so stylish

[fleet zealot]

divide playerbase more

[fleet zealot]

duelist, sustained assault, martyrdom or piety

[paper harness]

ah yeah helldivers mentality

[fleet zealot]

55% extra crit chance for existing if you go the crit route

[exotic raft]

I don't think most of the playerbase is running the hardest possible content

[plucky gate]

At this point we've had so much broken shit in the game that distinguishing exactly how broken shit is stopped mattering to me

[fast tiger]

ya I need to give it a shot

[fast tiger]

I’m pretty sure this is a confirmed statistic

[exotic raft]

I want to see how fast dueling sword at max martyr stacks can swing

what is the fastest possible swing speed in the game

[fleet zealot]

most of the playerbase is in malice but we shouldn't balance the numbers around malice

the balance around malice should be focused on outlier and feels

[plucky gate]

all the balance in the game is just a blur to me now
It's all some variation of deleting every major threat, or wiping half the map or being practically invincible
Dueling sword doesn't even surprise me

[fleet zealot]

the core number balance needs to be damnation

[exotic raft]

I like malice, it's comfy

[fleet zealot]

that is where the most dedicated players are

[exotic raft]

But damnation is not that much harder

[paper harness]

the balancing policy is to boost the malice players into auric by huge power creep

[frosty pecan]

check out this un-rated combat axe

[fleet zealot]

yep

[fleet zealot]

gohan ass combat axe

[fast tiger]

if only arrowhead did the equivalent balancing for HD2

at least the last patch was good

[copper hawk]

2 bsy balancing around diff 5

[exotic raft]

Now that we can get perfect rolls easily and hit breakpoints moving to damnation will be much easier

like in vt2, without random rolls it was all about breakpoints

[fast tiger]

and then those carried by those weapons lacking fundamentals will be CRUSHED fuckin HARD

[paper harness]

arrowhead has no concept as to how to play their own game, which is shown in how the updates have worked

[fleet zealot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxoX2uiMd_Y

[paper harness]

no they won't

[exotic raft]

🤷‍♂️

[paper harness]

they will be carried by blatantly op gear and abilities

[exotic raft]

What fundamentals do you need for damnation but not mayhem

[fast tiger]

i mean we already saw this happen with smykers

so

[fleet zealot]

they won't you can stat check shit

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

[paper harness]

why do you think smykers are so consistantly shit

[copper hawk]

We're so cooked

[plucky gate]

I wonder what the average difficulty people play at looks like when it's not immediately after a big patch.
Like when the game is in those dying states at 2k players and all the people left are just the dedicated tryhards

[copper hawk]

Erm

Consistently*

[paper harness]

because they arte carried by the gear

[fast tiger]

because they don’t know how to block or melee dance

[copper hawk]

[fast tiger]

and having good weapons doesn’t ensure either of these skills

[rotund shoal]

around 2k player count in eu about half the people are level 200+ in malice as well

[exotic raft]

I feel like I should block more, I basically always dodge

[rotund shoal]

but its been better the last couple months

[paper harness]

just add modded realms and everyone good will never play non modded diffs

[plucky gate]

damn that's wild.
was expecting most to be heresy at that point

[copper hawk]

Add cataclysm 2 snarksnide..

[paper harness]

Damnation is cata

[copper hawk]

Nop

2 easy

[fast tiger]

i think you’re underestimating how scared the average person is of diff 4

[paper harness]

cata is not hard either

[copper hawk]

If it was cata u die in 2 hit

[solar gorge]

cataclysm is a better diff than damn by far

[exotic raft]

should I be blocking in certain situations? Dodge always feels safer.

[fast tiger]

oh FUCK i lost a wound!!!!!

[solar gorge]

if u compare base damn to cata which is the only fair comparison

[rotund shoal]

if youre not doing something tht doesnt require not blocking then holding block is often optimal

prevent random hits

[fast tiger]

how will I survive without 4 wounds what the FUCK

[exotic raft]

But random hits have noise cues that you can dodge

[rotund shoal]

not always

[south folio]

dodging is extremely good in this game

[copper hawk]

Yah it's always peculiar to me to see high level players in malice

[south folio]

and blocking is quite weaker in this game

[exotic raft]

It's comfy brain off gameplay

[paper harness]

@spiral anvil

[paper harness]

.

everytime

[sullen forge]

Malice boy

[copper hawk]

Brain like not stimulated ofd

Off

Hardly anything spawns in malice and enemies have like no hp

[solar gorge]

only buff no nerfs, smell like hd2's playerbase

[exotic raft]

My dude, plenty of people in malice with auric titles

[fast tiger]

i assure you my brain is off in auric 5

[exotic raft]

I am a scrub, but I stand by what I said

[fleet zealot]

in fact

those hit sounds

[sullen forge]

They’re penance farming

[fleet zealot]

are acting completely crazy

[copper hawk]

My brain off game mode is hi int poxhounds

[fleet zealot]

im getting noises for enemies swinging at someone else 10 feet away

[copper hawk]

Or 3veg auric damnation

[exotic raft]

You asked all of them?

[fleet zealot]

post those schizo tier clips

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/she-is-mindless-gif-26820465

These r truly mindless

[solar gorge]

no need to think for dt i have music on

[exotic raft]

You guys get way too worked up at the idea that people might play a game to fuck around and not necessarily do top tier content

[sullen forge]

Bro I guarantee you right now if an Auric player is playing Malice they’re unironically penance grinding or a malice baby

Aka bad

[copper hawk]

I just dont understand it

[exotic raft]

Wait

[copper hawk]

I dont think I ever will

[fleet zealot]

teammate hammers are peak

[exotic raft]

I just realized

I meant heresy, not malice

Derp

[paper harness]

buff everything, add more difficulties, take a guess

[plucky gate]

an auric damnation player can turn off their brain in heresy anyways

[fast tiger]

i just gagged

[copper hawk]

Even then

[sullen forge]

Same shit applies

[copper hawk]

Like normal damnation isnt hard

Idk i just dont get it

[fleet zealot]

nah you can't turn your brain off in heresy

[copper hawk]

Akko shrug

[fleet zealot]

cause heresy teammates are the shittiest

[sullen forge]

Malice player?

[copper hawk]

[paper harness]

i can

[exotic raft]

Yeah, damnation isn't that much harder than heresy

[fast tiger]

this lmao

[fleet zealot]

it's literally the champion effect from vt2

[solar gorge]

there's genuinely nothin in normal damn it's a ghosttown

[fast tiger]

it’s where the shitters get bottlenecked

[sullen forge]

Bro I turn my brain off on damnation

[copper hawk]

Lmfao yah

[fleet zealot]

yea i do to

[sullen forge]

But that’s usually Material runs

[exotic raft]

Yeah, damnation players tend to know what they're doing

[fleet zealot]

that's why i dont play heresy

cause it's stressful

[exotic raft]

well

[paper harness]

no they don't

[fleet zealot]

damnation and auric damn players can be shit

[exotic raft]

more often than heresy

[fleet zealot]

but there is usually a maximum shit

[fast tiger]

ime there’s always someone who doesn’t know how to play the game “correcting” the behavior of people in their match that do

[lunar fable]

idk damn pugs can be deadweight

more often than not

[plucky gate]

Is it really? Even soloing heresy shouldn't be that bad

[agile forge]

How good is Thunder Hammer now?

[fast tiger]

good

[exotic raft]

I basically just play pugs 🤷‍♂️

[paper harness]

my brain off is pub auric on zealot

[lunar fable]

i only have one friend i play dt with and he's usually busy nowadays so quickplay is the only thing i do

[exotic raft]

I feel like ogryn works better brain off

[agile forge]

What dump stat would you want on it