zealot-class

[hollow dove]

I guess i'll run auric with my brunt dsword lmao

[rotund shoal]

wait rlly

[fast tiger]

yes

[lean lark]

mission xp goes to mastery xp too

[rotund shoal]

i sacrificed like 50 random weapons for mastery 20 bolt pistol lol

[lean lark]

so at most you have to play like 10 auric hishocks

[rotund shoal]

didnt know i should have sacrificed boltpistols

[fast tiger]

sacrificing the same weapon you’re upgrading is much much more exp

[lean lark]

best method is just buying greys and upgrading to green/blue and sacrificng

[hollow dove]

na i meant from like, old blessings converted

[fading vale]

all you need to do is buy a gray, upgrade to green, and sacrifice - takes like 30 weapons

[hollow dove]

oh pog

[royal vortex]

sacrificing weapons is fucked up

ur hurting their feelings

[solar gorge]

it's so funny to me looking at ppl tryna figure how it works

idk and i will never have to

[royal vortex]

same (until new weapons are released)

[fast tiger]

dude it’s such a fuckin strange system to get used ton

[solar gorge]

that gives us a good 6 months to get around to it

[fast tiger]

but once you figure it out it’s like ok I guess I’ll make literally picture perfect weapons why not I guess

[hollow dove]

so just buy 30 dueling swords and get em to green and toss them to hadron

and i'll have the godroll dsword?

[royal vortex]

[fleet zealot]

Once you figure it out you can just make a bis weapon daily

[placid fiber]

I find it funny you can start getting t4 blessings unlocked before you can even get the weapon upgraded past 300

[fleet zealot]

True bis

It’s so much better

[rotund shoal]

i dont think ppl will post their godrolls anymore cuz its super easy to get one

[lean lark]

perf godrolls no longer a usable term

because everything is a perfect godroll

[rotund shoal]

with like 300k ordos and 5k plasteel

or less plasteel actually

[rocky marsh]

how do i get new blessings?

[rocky marsh]

apparently im at mastery 14

[lean lark]

they also fixed the old rating bug for curios

[fleet zealot]

Open up the mastery page in your inventory

Spend the points

[lean lark]

my 260 rating curios are now 430

[placid fiber]

As you spend points you unlock the next tier of blessings

[fleet zealot]

If the blessing points don’t load, close and reopen the menu

If they still dont, restart your game

[heavy arch]

what blessings for ds

[fleet zealot]

If they still dont, write a bug report

[vast basin]

precog thrust

[heavy arch]

sick

[fleet zealot]

Uncanny precog or precog thrust or uncanny thrust

[heavy arch]

thrust sounds fun

[fleet zealot]

I like uncanny thrust on martyrdom

[heavy arch]

pokes u

[fleet zealot]

Problem with thrust tho

[rocky marsh]

si there any point of going beyond mastery 15?
assumign i don't need all level 4 blessings.

[fleet zealot]

Is that dsword attacks really fast

[rocky marsh]

oh wait

19

then i can empower right

[fleet zealot]

Need 19 for 500

[heavy arch]

is the dump stat cleave for ds

[fleet zealot]

Need 20 for the skin

[fleet zealot]

Dump mobility

Cleave damage and uncanny helps a ton vs flak trash in hordes

Imo uncanny is a must for this event

60% mobility changes basically nothing on all weapons

[rocky marsh]

wat skin?

[rotund shoal]

santa skin

[unkempt olive]

It sucks being broke in this game

[rocky marsh]

i made it to 20

how to see the skin>? is it cool

[royal vortex]

u know what really sucks

[rotund shoal]

u need to go to your penances for the skin

[fast tiger]

vacuums

[royal vortex]

not having to spend 10k plasteel to get the blessing combination u want

[rotund shoal]

then inventory > cosmetics

[royal vortex]

theyve taken all the fun out of crafting

[fast tiger]

it varies

some look like candy canes

[rocky marsh]

WAIT

[coarse birch]

i miss needing to buy 4500 of the same grey item so i can get it bricked

[unkempt olive]

wym you get the god roll you want now

[coarse birch]

that was the real DT exp

[rocky marsh]

I MADE IT TO 20 BUT INVENOTRY MASTERY IS STILL 14

[unkempt olive]

where was the fun lol

[heavy arch]

is brunts still the way to go to get weps

[unkempt olive]

getting cucked on rng rolls

[royal vortex]

buy 50 of a weapon with only one dump stat, half are below 330 in rating

2/3rds of the remainder have the wrong dump stat

[mint crest]

they yearn for the gamblecore

[coarse birch]

i never used buy until rating either

[royal vortex]

all of the usable bases are bricked by the time you get to purple

[coarse birch]

i pressed that button

[unkempt olive]

Letssss go gambling 🎰

[coarse birch]

thats what i played DT for really

[rocky marsh]

thank god apparently the game just got bugged

[unkempt olive]

I do enjoy rng rolls too tho

[rocky marsh]

and my stuff is still hjere

[royal vortex]

i remember getting a near perfect mk19 shovel that was 15 damage off a specific bm breakpoint and i almost uninstalled the game

then i rolled an even better one right after

[coarse birch]

now everyone can have that shovel

what happened to gatekeeping

[royal vortex]

now they added the fkin woke DEI crafting

this is even worse than ghost of yotei...

[placid fiber]

I honestly expected mastery levels to be more annoying to get lol

[grizzled aspen]

How... how can... how can crafting be woke..?

[royal vortex]

made by swedes

[coarse birch]

its equal for all

i dont stand for it

make the single dads with 5 minutes of game time a week work for that psword theyll never get to use

[royal vortex]

you WILL fail to roll power cycler

[coarse birch]

and you WILL like it

[glossy sparrow]

ok ignatius crusher W weapon

complex but great

[hushed knoll]

HI JOSHO

[coarse birch]

there is no joy

without suffering

[royal vortex]

good god

[lean lark]

i loved having to scrap 8+ 380 thammers because of a single perk/blessing being fucked and ruining it being perfect

[hushed knoll]

notices u nuzzles

[royal vortex]

stay away

[mint crest]

oh dang you're a darktider? I thought you strictly limbus guy

[frosty herald]

Please cabba i need this

[glossy sparrow]

i play all the horde shooters

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/pickle-octo-squidward-bump-gif-15057642

[glossy sparrow]

literally all of em

[mint crest]

good man

[glossy sparrow]

sm2 hd2 dtide vtide

[lean lark]

im pretty sure that

[fleet zealot]

Crafting to change and modify what is on the weapon is trans propaganda aka woke

[lean lark]

in the lore

[glossy sparrow]

anyway which blessings for the ignatius now

it should be slaughterer?

[fleet zealot]

Crusher or smaul

[glossy sparrow]

crusher

[lean lark]

cabba could've wiped most dbz

[heavy arch]

smaul

[fleet zealot]

Yea

Scrusher slaught

Or thrust slaught

[frosty herald]

Gogeta toyed around with a shadow dragon that was actively destroying the universe by merely existing

[glossy sparrow]

i saw it had thrust and slaught

so i immediately went to that

ogryn brain

[fleet zealot]

I dont like thrust on it

Id just run a thunderhammer

[fast tiger]

reported

to God

[spark pier]

is the dagger set up still very good?

[glossy sparrow]

fair then run a stagger 1 instead?

[hushed knoll]

[spark pier]

or is using the big hammer a thing now and a fun build i should do?

[rocky marsh]

leggo i got my dream knife

[glossy sparrow]

slaughterer hammerblow?

[rocky marsh]

ft riposte 80* 61

[fast tiger]

slaughterer skullcrusher

[fleet zealot]

No

Sluaght is stagger

Strength (renamed power) is cleave damage and stagger

[fast tiger]

STRENGTH

[glossy sparrow]

ohhhh

[fast tiger]

rip power

[fleet zealot]

No reason to ever run hammerblow again

[glossy sparrow]

ahhh

i'm so old

[fast tiger]

hammerblow was only ever the least bad second blessing

[placid fiber]

I hath expanded upon it!

[fleet zealot]

The only reason you took hammerblow was it being the best of the worst blessings

[fast tiger]

crusher is spoiled now

[fleet zealot]

And crusher only having one damage blessing, not even thunderous

[acoustic dune]

golly

[fast tiger]

who allowed u this much power

[acoustic dune]

is it that time of year again

[glossy sparrow]

slaughterer skullcrusher then

[placid fiber]

Well... Lazorr was busy being a mountain man before... so I kinda hi-jacked the power >.>'

[acoustic dune]

ill go expand then

[glossy sparrow]

just keep bonking them with stagger till they are dead

honestly is special spam h1 a viable way to just kill 1 big boi

[hard nexus]

not flamer

bad

[fast tiger]

push attack spam also works

[glossy sparrow]

i saw the guide say H -> L for a loop

[fast tiger]

but yes

[hard nexus]

i should try bolter

[lean lark]

thammer bolter pre-talent trees was the ultimate skill expression

[rocky marsh]

where can i play the infected moebian 21st missions?

[hard nexus]

PA, H1, and L2 do good single target

[lean lark]

you just magdump into big elite packs and bosses

occasionally shoot trappers/snipers (if needed)

[south grove]

@spare talon what do you think about take a swing

[lean lark]

just big revolver

[hard nexus]

flamer does that perfectly already trhouhg

tbhnough

though

[glossy sparrow]

wait the PA isn't multi hit?

or am i thinking of charged pa

[hard nexus]

PA is a very high finesse damage attack

so a headshot with it does a ton

[fast tiger]

skill expression
pre nerf pinning fire
pre buffed enemy health pools

[fleet zealot]

PA is a finesse damage

[glossy sparrow]

ohh

[ember yew]

when your trusted 1 year old hammer was a hidden BiS all this time

[glossy sparrow]

so pa into h1

[lean lark]

disagree=wrong

[fast tiger]

u got there buddy

[glossy sparrow]

ok, this weapon is sick

it ain't branx but it's fun

[fast tiger]

fuck ive been bamboozled

[hard nexus]

its branx but better

[fast tiger]

hoodwinked even

[royal vortex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1207357680977444987/uni_fnaf.gif

[glossy sparrow]

no shot it's better than branx

branx legit 1 taps on headshot

h1 branx i nut

[hard nexus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1040430876263186572/1097590111593582652/togif.gif

[lean lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/929807268994744340/987689324453724180/diagnosis-skill-issue.gif

[hard nexus]

wait r u using crusher

or thammer

crusher is pawesome

[glossy sparrow]

ignatius crusher

[hard nexus]

but thammer is better than branx

oh

fair

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/women-talking-snitchin-subaru-anime-gif-16793487

[fast tiger]

mods this man is out of control

[hard nexus]

the branx has better horde clear though

[glossy sparrow]

yes it does

i dont wanna play thammer

too slo

[hard nexus]

use IJ

its very fast

[glossy sparrow]

hm

[hard nexus]

u can one shot a bulwark with a charged light

[hard nexus]

idk what exact buffs r needed but i get it pretty commonly

[glossy sparrow]

dunno, i'm mixed cos i just wanna be able to just win no matter how long

[hard nexus]

i think its weakspot, duelist, and a couple slaught stacks

[glossy sparrow]

and ignatius crusher is like, win

but it takes a while

but i never feel like i'm gonna get overwhelmed

[hard nexus]

hammer does that too

with absurd stagger on h1 and h2

[glossy sparrow]

maybe i played thammer too long ago

[hard nexus]

u can stagger crushers

[glossy sparrow]

i'll try it later

cos back then thammer felt super slow and unwieldy

[hard nexus]

well

it was reworked

and now it is much faster

and now that IJ thammer is a much more viable option

[spark pier]

so hammer build works well?

[hard nexus]

its super fast

[hard nexus]

very

[heavy arch]

wats IJ

[rocky nacelle]

THammer fucks

[spark pier]

ooo

[hard nexus]

inexorable judgement, right keystone

[spark pier]

whats the tree set up for it?

[south grove]

flak unarmoured for rashad?

[rocky nacelle]

I actually dont feel like a detriment using TH now cause its got virtually no self stun

[heavy arch]

oh momentum hammer always fucked

[rocky nacelle]

IJ hammer always fucked

its just self stun was a brick

[rocky nacelle]

but with self stun virtually gone on both hammers

its quite peak

[hard nexus]

standard IJ build

[full nebula]

Whats dumpstat for flamer?

[median steeple]

I should make a hamr build

[heavy arch]

dmg

[hard nexus]

damage and mobility

[hard nexus]

honestly i think they buffed it too hard im ngl

[rocky nacelle]

@hard nexus gamer gaming in a sec?

[full nebula]

damn, this ones almost all 80s but 63 cloud radius

[hard nexus]

sure

[rocky nacelle]

kk ill be on in a bit

[median steeple]

yuckers

[hard nexus]

cloud radius is how wide ur flames are

u want it high

[full nebula]

yep

[glossy sparrow]

so thammer moveset now is what?

[rocky nacelle]

the same but better

[paper harness]

@spare talon

[full nebula]

bladed momentum descriptions broken

[rocky nacelle]

crucis got access to an overhead

[hard nexus]

identical, except after special, u get an overhead

[glossy sparrow]

oh wait i just remembered crucis has the overhead thing

lmao

that was in the pnotes

[rocky nacelle]

it is pretty janky looking and funny

but its great

[glossy sparrow]

they will fear the wrath of my overhead

i always hated that i had to land the stupid horizontal swing

after i special

[ornate bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254313274325995570/1286452588224708718/caption.gif

[glossy sparrow]

some small boi gets hit

[rocky nacelle]

can chain special overheads into each other

so you dont drown in self stun and carapace anymore

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[acoustic dune]

@placid fiber

[glossy sparrow]

what's the new ideal combos for single and horde now?

[acoustic dune]

soon

the wall will be here

[glossy sparrow]

special heavy for singles?

[rocky nacelle]

yea

[rocky nacelle]

H1 and H2 still deals with hordes fine

[lunar fable]

[glossy sparrow]

then heavy spam for horde

[rocky nacelle]

or even light attacks

cause IJ

[fast tiger]

I HATE first target stat

[glossy sparrow]

is the light attack still the bonk

overhead bonk

[fast tiger]

I HATE multiplying my damage

[rocky nacelle]

yes all crucis lights are bonks

from different angles

[glossy sparrow]

ok

is there 2 thammers?

[rocky nacelle]

ironhelm and crucis

[glossy sparrow]

i dont recall using ironhelm

[fast tiger]

it’s the one with more special cleave

goes through hordes but has less damage

[glossy sparrow]

oh ur special cleaves through the hordes one

ah if i play that i might as well use ignatius kinda

[paper harness]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH8YdmQzICI

[glossy sparrow]

ok i'll go get a crucis

[paper harness]

AAAAAAAAGGGGHh

[rocky nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xti_6Bzpa8A

[glossy sparrow]

if i take a crucis then my gun just becomes zarona i guess

[rocky nacelle]

I use crucis bolter/tknives

[glossy sparrow]

why u need the boltor

[rocky nacelle]

to kill everything

[grizzled aspen]

Because it's cool.

[split sable]

is agile good on the duelling sword? i haven't had a chance to try it out yet. whick blessings do you all like for it?

[rocky nacelle]

agile is a funny meme but theres better options

[lusty oar]

there are two frogs in chat

[rocky nacelle]

a second frog has hit the chat

[lusty oar]

the harvest is bountiful today

[split sable]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-1105617598331461830

[paper harness]

worst builds ever

[ember yew]

i mean there's some debatable things, but when you talk about meta builds

you dont start your video

with Antax

for gods sake

[fast tiger]

what is that shred Headtaker?

[shy river]

youtuber rolls worst loadout blunt ever, asked to leave mourningstar

[fast tiger]

bro u stop dumping damage in your blunts

[paper harness]

instantly better

[paper harness]

yeah

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/scrooge-donald-duck-swimming-in-money-gold-coins-gif-16654576

[acoustic dune]

@placid fiber

it is here

[fast tiger]

I can’t see flesh tearer lacerate so im pretty sure the whole build is bad

[fast tiger]

power has gone to you peoples’ heads

[acoustic dune]

what ever do you mean

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-mecore-cute-love-special-gif-18245380539414234591

[fast tiger]

where’s that furios cat gif I need to thrust it at you

[fleet zealot]

I love ferrets

[fast tiger]

this gave me acid reflux

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-wardance-cute-excited-gif-15831988

pov: the ferret poster

being happy

[full nebula]

Anyone else tried duelling swords yet?

[shy river]

he's just a silly little guy, you really gonna hate a silly little guy

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/competitive-shitting-cats-two-cats-toilet-2-cats-gif-16736555535898909183

[ember yew]

no second wind

but disdain
and no duelist either with piety

[fast tiger]

i needed to see this. thank you for your generosity

[fleet zealot]

I did a costco run for my grandma, unloaded it for her, and got sushi on the way home

[fast tiger]

aaaand saved

[fleet zealot]

From the grocery store that has surprisingly restaurant quality sushi

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-slide-gif-21101138

[rocky nacelle]

that’s bandit and me being slaves to the desire known as firehouse meatball subs

[placid fiber]

Yeah... my cat does the same thing when she notices I'm in the room

[fleet zealot]

Im trying to avoid thinking about it

The meatball sub

[fast tiger]

do u guys have Ike’s sandwiches near you

[fleet zealot]

Sushi is a bit healthier

No

[fast tiger]

their Dutch crunch bread is sex

[rocky nacelle]

had one a few days ago with pepperonis and the garlic bread

[fleet zealot]

We have subway, firehouse, mike’s, jimmy john, and topz

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-dance-gif-20625579

[placid fiber]

That too lol

[fleet zealot]

I think pickle barrel is closed

[rotund shoal]

im a sucker for italian bmts from subway

[acoustic dune]

should i increase the number phil

[glossy sparrow]

thammer is slaughterer thrust?

[fast tiger]

ah I think Ike’s is like a more limited west coast US chain

[fleet zealot]

Bozeman still has their pickle barrel sandwich shop open

[glossy sparrow]

with unyielding cara?

[placid fiber]

Increase it... to... 403985904385034985034985 of them!

[acoustic dune]

roger that

[placid fiber]

And then ping stan with the picture

[lean lark]

unyielding cara/elites

[fleet zealot]

Yea im in montana

[lean lark]

up to you

[fleet zealot]

We dont have all the chains

[fast tiger]

i think Cara elite lets you OHK crushers no buffs

if that’s important to you

[glossy sparrow]

well i always have buffs

[ember yew]

first purchase

[glossy sparrow]

🧠

[ember yew]

okay, i'l take it

still no recon lasguns at brunt

[glossy sparrow]

i'll go unyield elite probably

[acoustic dune]

@placid fiber my laptop is dying

[placid fiber]

I've said this before and I'll say it again: at least recon lasguns fit the zealot more than the kantrael lasguns...

[placid fiber]

Okay: Abort mission. I repeat: ABORT MISSION

[ember yew]

they fixed Duel Swords (at brunt)

but forgot to fix recons

[acoustic dune]

no

i'll make it happen

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/x3-gif-24301743

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/stoat-mustelid-ermine-cute-fluffy-gif-8275845410501701710

[fast tiger]

you can’t keep getting away with this

[acoustic dune]

ill make it happen

[misty mason]

They didnt fix it

Cmon mang

[fleet zealot]

Lmao

Happened to my revolver

At least you can recycle it now

[hushed knoll]

HI DAN OWO NOTICES U

[fleet zealot]

Stan

[lunar fable]

power sword

[hushed knoll]

Owo notices u

[fast tiger]

is he ok

[hushed knoll]

hey balod

Blab

[misty mason]

You can get it to work by alt entering twice

well once

[lunar fable]

[hushed knoll]

I am totesiewotesie ok chan desu

[fast tiger]

why’s it got a doorknob for a handle

[misty mason]

but you probably want it to go back to full screen

[hushed knoll]

Dan go to bedge

[rocky marsh]

how to do nakey?

[misty mason]

sugoi

https://tenor.com/view/gg-gif-27092095

[fast tiger]

black market mod

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/chief-keef-playboi-carti-lucki-gif-7609018038122769620

[formal locust]

whats the best shotgun? not double barrel

[rocky marsh]

everyone can see?
also get banned?

[fast tiger]

it’s technically not allowed because mods are supposed to be client side only

but the nude mod makes you nakey to everyone

but idk that ive ever heard of people getting banned for it

[lunar fable]

i also got a 1h evis

[fleet zealot]

Stan are you on drugs?

[rotund shoal]

that skin looks beautiful

[paper harness]

dorn magic

[rocky marsh]

thanks dude

[hushed knoll]

Nopesiewopesie

OwO

[median steeple]

the rot

[fast tiger]

no but really is he on drugs

[hushed knoll]

NO

I donf do rugs

[paper harness]

not anymore

[rocky marsh]

also other than the unplayable frames due to 1 ram
my knife build got even stronker

[hushed knoll]

I'm just high on life

[paper harness]

patched out

[hushed knoll]

ASRIVAL OMG COME OUT

[paper harness]

only mine works

[rocky marsh]

critspam is twice as strong before prior nerf holy shit

[acoustic dune]

stan

soon

SOON

[hushed knoll]

NO

[rocky marsh]

teach me da ways pls

[paper harness]

no

[fast tiger]

built differnt

[rocky marsh]

ok

[hushed knoll]

Welcome to the server owo

You should put tacos in bowls

[paper harness]

Not even sure why mine was not purged

[fast tiger]

stan ive been here multiple times over the past 2 years

[acoustic dune]

@placid fiber

[hushed knoll]

[nimble fiber]

stan scaring away oldnewcomers amazing

[acoustic dune]

my ram

[hushed knoll]

NO

[fast tiger]

certainly not new

[rocky marsh]

wat this

[hushed knoll]

Omg hi ly

[fast tiger]

i just leave and rejoin periodically

[acoustic dune]

taco stan repellent

[rocky marsh]

don't get

[fast tiger]

i was here in the overtly femboy zealot chat days

i was even given a name by Stan at one point

[lunar fable]

stan repellant is just any gif of a chimp playing sports

[fast tiger]

also how’s tinyangrycrab doing does he come in here anymore

[nimble fiber]

the dark days

[fast tiger]

you get it

[rocky marsh]

azraval was your previous pfp purple

i rememebr you had a different pfp

[nimble fiber]

I think I nearly witnessed the end wich is quite good actually

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-gif-27609617

[paper harness]

he left

[fast tiger]

i’ll fucking destroy u

[nimble fiber]

ye my profile picture changes a lot

[acoustic dune]

@hushed knoll I AM EXPORTING IT

SOON

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-gif-27609617

[paper harness]

the darcy fans annoyed him out of the server

[smoky pewter]

What weapons eat through bubble shields for zealot? Is Eviscerator best here?

[fast tiger]

fucking darcy

[fast tiger]

for zealot yeah

[rocky marsh]

please don't post that shit

[fast tiger]

achlys stubber is also insane, way more than it should be

[misty mason]

Iirc the bubble has a limit on damage per hit

[rocky marsh]

darcy is now regular in hd2 disscord

[misty mason]

So chain weapons work best

[misty mason]

cause they hit real fast on revved attack

[fast tiger]

that’s absolutely disgusting

[misty mason]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-gif-27609617

[fast tiger]

someone turn this man’s name grey and take away his multimedia privileges

[smoky pewter]

ty ty

[rocky marsh]

pretty sure its not allowed but i wont be here long enough to call admin

[paper harness]

It is allowed

[smoky pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-eat-chew-cat-gif-4781269048622652873

[misty mason]

Why wouldnt it be allowed lmao

[fast tiger]

idk suggestive content I guess

[rocky marsh]

iirc admins say they want to shy away from that.
Also i understand agentchaos now.

[misty mason]

HAHAHHA

Suggestive content hahahha

[fast tiger]

to be clear im not saying it wouldn’t be allowed that’s just all I can think of

[misty mason]

hahaha

[nimble fiber]

olives aren't allowed

[fast tiger]

im a they them so ya

u read me like a gay book

[rocky marsh]

apparently she does greet some regulars butr thats about it, not much of a following over there.

[fast tiger]

I don’t really understand how she ever would have had a following to begin with

[full nebula]

duelling sword is insane with charge+bp

[rocky marsh]

apparently some people found her english as second language way of talking cute

sometimes i type like that when im lazy

nobody finds me cute though

[fast tiger]

the bar is on the floor apparently

[nimble fiber]

[glossy sparrow]

how do i get the shirtless drip

i wish to be donned in faith

[south grove]

is exchange between brauto bugged?

mark exchange I mean

[acoustic dune]

fuck

[south grove]

I think it's because collateral -> stopping power

[fast tiger]

it wouldn’t be the only weapon family that does that

[stone fern]

does marty feel different to anyone?

feels like i have higher attack speed but lower toughness

[fast tiger]

the combat axes do that with cleave targets and finesse

[fast tiger]

speculation? new patch means fresh/rusty meat and people are ignoring ranged elites again

and you’re getting shredded by gunfire more than usual

[stone fern]

pure speculation

i went down to a poxie backstab today hasnt happened to me in ages

i thought i could tank it and push forward but no

my schizo theory

[paper harness]

boys

Ds5

[stone fern]

new talent didnt register since the buff so i gotta click and reclick it

[paper harness]

Is so hard

Pure kino

[stone fern]

ye i thought so

ds4 has good clear on zealot

ds5 must be disgusting

[paper harness]

If you put thrust on it you deserve the wall

[stone fern]

damn..........

putting thrust on it

[vast basin]

is ds5 good now

[stone fern]

it was always ok

[misty mason]

Poke sword is v gud

[stone fern]

ok armor damage and crazy mobility

[misty mason]

Doesn't need thrust

[vast basin]

no poke sword is 4

[stone fern]

EVERYTHING NEEDS THRUST

[paper harness]

It feels faster than the knife

[stone fern]

I NEED TO THRUST

[misty mason]

It's a valid build

But I prefer rending

So its better on trash

[stone fern]

uncanny relentless is actually stupid too

[grizzled aspen]

@stone fern to the vault with ye.

[stone fern]

err

[full nebula]

Idk if it needs thrust tbh

[stone fern]

i meant uncanny relentless

[vast basin]

I mean I guess it is faster because of the sprint cost reduction on defense

[full nebula]

i use uncanny precog+duellist talent just like knife, and it shreds

[violet hornet]

Thrust is for thammers only

[grizzled aspen]

@hard nexus HELP THEYRE PLAYING WEEZER AT MY STORE

[vast basin]

lol just got an out of memory crash

[visual stream]

I miss Beat Saber but my vr controller is broken

[lusty oar]

ask clad to thrust you

[full nebula]

had one of those lastnight

need this game in vr

[paper harness]

I will thrust you

[misty mason]

So happy thammer has been brought back to where it needs to be

[full nebula]

have a major pump going by the end of auric

[misty mason]

Ba bonking crushers

[visual stream]

Crucis was just objectively worse in almost every way compared to helm for a bit there

[full nebula]

wat

[acoustic dune]

@placid fiber

@hushed knoll

[misty mason]

You're very owo today

[hushed knoll]

NO WTF

[hushed knoll]

HELLO ICE CREAM SUNDAE FROG OWO NOTICES U

[visual stream]

Hi Stanathan

[hushed knoll]

What's wrong with that

[hushed knoll]

Hello owo

[hushed knoll]

[stone fern]

dualling bosses with thammer is more fun now TBH

isntead of a two step goodbye

[fast tiger]

and they said it couldn’t be done

[misty mason]

Nothing, enjoy your owos

[stone fern]

you have GAMEPLAY

[vast basin]

after testing both hammers in psyk I might prefer crucis more now

[acoustic dune]

a weapon to surpass metalgear

@fleet zealot FERRET POSTER IT IS THAT TIME AGAIN

WHAT SHOULD I ADD

[misty mason]

Jesus too much stuff releasing

[twilit blade]

This node is kinda interesting now

can choose to either do +1 perk point and 25% TDR or +10% crit chance on the tree now

[misty mason]

Byzantine update for ck3 yesterday, locked and loaded the day before and new Book of Hours DLC today

[fast tiger]

now that you only need 1 crit every 4 seconds it’s kinda easy to justify not maxing crit chance with BP

[misty mason]

An all zealot party all running shared crit piety node would be interesting

Dunno if it stacks tho

Probably not

[twilit blade]

Also apparently anything dying in the radius causes it to give you some toughness back?

Even if its an ally kill, which is interesting

[fast tiger]

i would imagine “triggering Fury” is just the moment it hits max stacks

[plush estuary]

it doesnt

[misty mason]

Boo

[twilit blade]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGtbVrcu4-4 Check this video around 1:10

[visual stream]

I feel like it's treated like auras are

[twilit blade]

He mentions it and in the vid hes getting small chunks of toughness while doing the objective

[misty mason]

I just want to play thammer, but I should be raising my mastery

[faint vapor]

They should have tripled ragdoll physics on a killing blow

[visual stream]

Where only one counts but I could be wrong

[faint vapor]

Getting weapons to sacrifice is still gaining mastery

[rocky nacelle]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3KtHScWKrsLVlEh4ghoGBI?si=7b541e7bb6164f07

[visual stream]

Thammering pogryns is funny when they just slowly, awkwardly fall backward or forward

[misty mason]

Yeah but that's slow af

[fast tiger]

please don’t make me

[nimble fiber]

[misty mason]

I do have a tonne of trash sitting around tho

[fast tiger]

so it’s something different going on then? Small chunks aren’t full 50% toughness back

[twilit blade]

Yeah its something seperate from the 50%

Or at least it looks like it

[pine haven]

gamers

[quartz dagger]

Did any of the weapon changes make any of them better at swinging into hordes?

[pine haven]

which perks should i get for my knife

[fading vale]

there's another thing built into that piety talent

uh what was it

I can't remember, but it wasn't listed in game

[misty mason]

Enjoying your thammer lazorr?

[shrewd karma]

hello! i haven't been on Darktide nor this server in a long long time, and i was hoping to get some advice since i stopped playing before the talent tree rework(s)

currently im grinding on my trust 23 zealot (i want to rearrange my veteran later on once i get my bearings) and i just wanted to get some opinions of it before i go and make an embarrassment of myself because my build turns out not to be very practically applicable

if needed, im running a tigris mk iii eviscerator and a locke mk iib spearhead boltgun, i want to get a mk xv eviscerator but im not quite sure where or when i can get it

[misty mason]

I dont remember if the 10% toughness on heavy kill was always there but i feel like an ogryn now with it

[quartz dagger]

Make one in the armory exchange

[fading vale]

I don't like the heavy overhead but otherwise yes

[twilit blade]

function: recover_percentage_toughness

stat buff: toughness_damage_taken_multiplier

When reaching 25 stacks of Fury, does two things:

(1) Replenishes 50% of maximum toughness immediately. Then, while maintaining 25 stacks of Fury, also replenishes 2% of max toughness per kill; stacks additively with Zealot's base 5% max toughness gained on melee kill. The effectiveness of this toughness replenishment is affected by certain player debuffs like toxic gas.

Found it

[hard nexus]

NOOOOO

[misty mason]

It does feel weird

[hard nexus]

im so sorry....

[misty mason]

I know it's probably better

[fading vale]

it's just boring and eh

I prefer the horizontal

[shrewd karma]

this is the only heavy eviscerator i can see, won't that mean i'd just get a tigrus mk iii eviscerator?

[fading vale]

yeah this is it

[fast tiger]

you can freely swap weapon marks now

[twilit blade]

also replenishes 2% of max toughness per kill;
Though this bit seems like its any kill, not just your kills

[misty mason]

You can swap mk

Any weapon is any mk now

[frosty herald]

https://youtu.be/uPDXDJIFtMk?si=tAiB5V1F63tLebkF @rocky nacelle all ammo types can be used when riding a seikret

[fleet zealot]

idk

OH

[twilit blade]

Thats why Crushers the goat

[fleet zealot]

have you added h1 qq yet?

[misty mason]

I need to read the patch notes

[fleet zealot]

that's an older meme

[misty mason]

Did they change anything ok the vigilant/Headhunter?

[versed fiber]

whats the way to go with building a non stealth build?

[misty mason]

I miss the cracked vigilant build

[shrewd karma]

oh so THAT'S what the mark thing does

[shrewd karma]

oopsies

[fleet zealot]

@acoustic dune

[fading vale]

hammer being a reasonably tuned weapon vs the power crept stuff, some things never change

[acoustic dune]

no

[misty mason]

Piety is always good

[fleet zealot]

no as in you don't have it on yet

or no you aren't adding it?

[misty mason]

With chastise

[fleet zealot]

it's a classic old school zealot chat meme

[acoustic dune]

fine

[stone fern]

what game am i playing

[acoustic dune]

i ll put it in

give me a ferret aswell

[true condor]

You cant its dead.

[fast tiger]

this meme is older than my niece

[twilit blade]

Man I feel like I would actually consider sainted gunslinger if it was swapped places with unremitting

unremitting just is so terrible

[frosty herald]

bigass letters

[stone fern]

leaf me bee

i wanna readmaxx

[ornate bone]

hydra

cut off one head and two more will emerge

truly a ferocious and deadly creature

[acoustic dune]

adding the ferret almost brick my laptop

what da fuck

[fleet zealot]

it's a gif

for some reason

[fast tiger]

is this a real life dugtrio

[fleet zealot]

i got it off an official black footed ferret site

black-footed ferrets is such a sad but happy story

[visual stream]

Haven't seen you in here in a while

Also so true

[fleet zealot]

dsword is a warcrime on zealot

i knew it would happem

i hoped and prayed they would nerf it

they didn't

now im solo'ing crusher packs easier than knife

[polar nexus]

I ran pf + ff (good) and pf + puncture. Last one was good on my momentum build to have scourge proced instantly without using chastise. And it kinda helped to finish some elites faster.

[polar nexus]

Dsword with evade is...

[visual stream]

This is actually a little sad to hear tbh

Who would've thought that the cracked melee weapon on a class that doesn't spec melee, being given to a class that specs melee with no further changes, might have been a little unbalanced

[full nebula]

people talking about balance in a game that doesnt have scoreboard, for the soul purpose of not knowing who kille what 🤡

[fast tiger]

i mean chances are we’re gonna see some nerfs in the nearish future

and that they’re just waiting for the dust to settle first

[twilit blade]

Autopistol is still pretty meh yeah?

[fast tiger]

also it’s sole purpose as in single purpose

[fast tiger]

unfortunately

[fading vale]

6 or 7 months ye

[full nebula]

u rite

[fast tiger]

although I did see a gunker recently use it to absolutely fucking annihilate weakened monsters in a maelstrom and get top boss damage

that was strange to me

[sweet wind]

Hello All!

[frosty herald]

@rocky nacelle astram unit is also from astera since they use the saphire star logo

[visual stream]

Oh god you're not one of those "only buffs" people, are you?

[coarse birch]

Ye

Usable but

Outclassed and ammo hog

[fading vale]

is it still just worse columnus

[polar nexus]

You mean Vraks old man

[fading vale]

did they ever fix columnus move speed

[tame mirage]

I have a scoreboard...

[twilit blade]

prob more accurate to say a worse garia brauto

[coarse birch]

By far

Wrong response

[coarse birch]

By far

[fading vale]

fuck the new names

[ornate bone]

this game has a scoreboard dumbass

its called mods

[coarse birch]

But yeah its a worse brauto

[full nebula]

if theres an overwhelming power discrepancy, i'm not against balance. But i dont see the need to nerf a lot of things, just the need for other things to be buffed. Instead of buffing headhunters w/e

[paper harness]

Imagine ruining the difficulty to appease joe who's skill is that of malice

[polar nexus]

But you can call them VIAG-ra 😦

[fading vale]

columnus used to have better movespeed than autopistol on top of the ammo

which is why I said that

[twilit blade]

ah gotcha

How is the garia these days

[tame mirage]

stripped down is kino

[coarse birch]

I think AP had better mobility but tbh ciag movement is still good

[full nebula]

im just pointing out the contradiction in their own logic with this game

[twilit blade]

trying to find interesting things to run with THammer

[ornate bone]

rashad needs a nerf

[twilit blade]

Bolt pistol is my default gun these days, feels awesome after the buffs, but I'm exploring

[ornate bone]

revolver needs a nerf too

[coarse birch]

BP is great yeah

[visual stream]

How is it a contradiction exactly

[ornate bone]

a lot of things need nerfing

[fading vale]

I use just about any ranged weapon with hammer, obviously not the awful ones like lasguns but yeah

[visual stream]

Should we buff everything else in the entire game, including enemies and armors and statuses, or nerf the few things that are a problem?

Be so real

[tame mirage]

MORE ENEMIES!

WOOOOOO

[polar nexus]

Ap swaps and reload faster that's it

[full nebula]

By not having a scoreboard, you're not technically supposed to have a modded one. So really you're not supposed to know who killed what, and how much damage was dealt. Your only judge of something being overpowered should be the killfeed.

[coarse birch]

Checks out

[polar nexus]

Recon lasguns are good now

[coarse birch]

Tbf you could still very much tell that rasha/plasma etc are vastly overperforming

Just by eye

Or using it

[twilit blade]

Wait

[ornate bone]

are you actually dumb?

[twilit blade]

I can't buy recon lasguns at Brunts

what

[fast tiger]

i feel like it’s more along the lines of bm needs a nerf

[twilit blade]

??

[full nebula]

Sure, but theres plenty of weapons and builds that can fill the killfeed easily.

[lusty oar]

get fatsharked

[fast tiger]

bugged for the time being

[lunar fable]

just bumped into a lv542 vet that only used their recon las

[copper hawk]

???

[twilit blade]

[lunar fable]

but they were never killing gunners or snipers

i love tknives

[sinful maple]

bois did they hurt my rashad combat axe?

[rotund shoal]

it wont let me change my name to BeavusThe3rd

[copper hawk]

The scoreboard does nothing but collect data already happening in the game

[opaque temple]

i need to remember to actually heavy maniacs now

[rotund shoal]

discrimination

[paper harness]

That is an insane way of balancing the game

[copper hawk]

Data the game already tracks but doesnt show you by default

[visual stream]

Do you know what confirmation bias is

[ornate bone]

just because you have 0 object permanence does not mean things don't exist

[copper hawk]

The killfeed is one way the game shows you data

[formal umbra]

No they buffed it

[fast tiger]

counterpoint: they wouldn’t have let modders use access to the tracked numbers in a match if they didn’t want them to

[copper hawk]

All the scoreboard does is show you data the game already tracks

[sinful maple]

oh fr? it feels a little different idk why

[full nebula]

Again, the contradiction. Why would they do that and not add a scoreboard natively?

[rotund shoal]

i mean the game doesnt track it, it just listens to events and does its own counter

[formal umbra]

Increased the damage on it's heavies to maniacs

[fast tiger]

to reduce toxicity, ostensibly

[rotund shoal]

the scoreboard mod i mean

[copper hawk]

It does quietly track things killed

[ornate bone]

there was a whole scoreboard controversy, it was about toxicity

[full nebula]

Its what they did, but they wanna have their cake and eat it too

[sinful maple]

explains why I 1 shot a dog earlier with a heavy actually

[copper hawk]

It just doesnt show by default

[opaque temple]

aren't dogs infested

[fast tiger]

yes

[visual stream]

Throwback to VT2 community xd

[copper hawk]

The scoreboard just collects and presents data the game is already programmed to track

[copper hawk]

Yah

[full nebula]

never really had a problem with toxicity on VT2 which has it

[sinful maple]

then I'm dumb

[ornate bone]

man, I miss our scoreboard

[copper hawk]

That's why they splat when poxburtsters blow up

[stoic snow]

how do i kill stuff gooder

[fast tiger]

i did lol

[ornate bone]

yes, that's why it was a controversy

[copper hawk]

Telling people to balance the game without data

[royal vortex]

the scoreboard can only access data revealed to it in a dream

[fast tiger]

josho gets it

[copper hawk]

And to balance around arbitrary poppings up in the killfeed is daft

[oak ermine]

Hey Zealot chat, would this work for a hammer-based build?

[full nebula]

People are gonna get toxicity in this game either way, if someones going down constantly in auric ect, certain people are going to make it known scoreboard or not

[visual stream]

Almost every meme I've seen from VT2 community involves "green circle" posting

[ornate bone]

tf you mean I'm not supposed to just make everything up? you're telling me I need actual data for balancing?

[full nebula]

Even with that said ive only had a few problems in 1000+ hours

[copper hawk]

Is this toxicity in the room with us right now ?

[rotund shoal]

depends on if you can read russian

[royal vortex]

i am right here

[coarse birch]

I have never had toxicity over a scoreboard

[fast tiger]

das vidanya comrade

[full nebula]

You cant tell me you havent played with someone who jumped in auric too early, then caught shit for it

[paper harness]

The knife, all staffs, smite, all forms are stealth, plasma, zarona, duelling swords, true aim, empathing evasion, voc based power boosts

[paper harness]

All of these need nerfs

[fleet zealot]

i dont even feel it needs agile, agile would be such a good blessing if darktide wasn't such a forgiving dodge system

[sinful maple]

any interesting new zealot builds to try with the new patch?

[rotund shoal]

they did nerf true aim

[fleet zealot]

and on two weapons with amazing dodges

[paper harness]

Not really

[visual stream]

Old EP smite didn't clog the killfeed so clearly it was a good thing for the game

[ornate bone]

I can actually

[paper harness]

All smite is harmful

[fleet zealot]

i don't need scoreboard to know the assail EP build with 100% cleave is ridic

[paper harness]

Even if it doesn’t kill

It is harmful

[coarse birch]

Not publicly

Maybe like twice

[fast tiger]

smite just sets up enemies to die to shriek flames en masse

[coarse birch]

In 1700 hours

[full nebula]

Ive seen things a few times, though most of the its one person projecting onto the team

[ornate bone]

@full nebula what do you propose we do about all the things that need nerfing?

[full nebula]

i'mnot against balancing

[fleet zealot]

no, telling people how to balance as a player, without data, is stupid. Knowing something needs to be balanced is a completely fair statement to make

[full nebula]

but people go too far and it just makes different metas

theres never a fucking balance

[ornate bone]

there is

we just need balancing

[full nebula]

there is, but there isn't

[fleet zealot]

[full nebula]

very very rarely do game companies actually nail it

its extremely hard to actually balance, without creating other metas as i said

[fast tiger]

idk I just think definitively saying they didn’t include scoreboards because they don’t want people to track their kills and stats is probably just wrong. it seems based on everything the community says, it was a choice to reduce avenues for toxicity in game

[opaque temple]

think that the new crafting system makes it easier to rebalance stuff because people haven't sunk 1mil dockets and a big pile of plasteel into the OP thing you just nerfed

[rotund shoal]

youre just saying you shouldnt balance the game cuz its hard

[fleet zealot]

balance isn't a goal

[polar nexus]

It just makes you have infinite dodges

[fleet zealot]

balance is an endless journey

[fast tiger]

it’s not about the stats themselves

[fleet zealot]

you want different metas that rotate in and out so the game stays fresh

[frosty herald]

And fatshark was proven right

[polar nexus]

You don't even have to manage them

[fleet zealot]

and people are encouraged to experiment

[polar nexus]

On zealot it's stupid lol

[fleet zealot]

yes and both of those waepons already have practical infinite dodges

[visual stream]

Yeah but would you rather something be ahead by a few inches or dirt house vs. creative mode

[sinful maple]

speaking of, any interesting new zealot builds to try with the new patch?

[fast tiger]

ultimately I think people are gonna be toxic in whatever way they can be if they’re sour

[copper hawk]

Yah

[opaque temple]

flamer ds4

[full nebula]

right but that should only be a thing with new weapons, once you get the existing to a point, everything beyond that gets balance to it

[copper hawk]

Le green circle joke goes heteh

[rotund shoal]

bolter is great

[copper hawk]

Here*

[fast tiger]

but w/e

[rotund shoal]

fire frenzy calvacade

[fleet zealot]

they are effective down to MINUS 2 dodges and they regen really fast

[sinful maple]

yeah I've been thinking about picking it up, haven't even tried bolt pistol yet I stopped playing for a few months

[fleet zealot]

i was completely cornered by crushers and I killed my way out (team i guess was staying in the event area for some reason)

i didn't need agile

[sinful maple]

wat dis

[rotund shoal]

the blessings

[lusty oar]

i thought this was a hawk tuah typo

[fleet zealot]

dsword is just thatgood

[rotund shoal]

its like 50% as good as when it was op

cuz of fire frenzy

[copper hawk]

I never said it wasnt

You're barking at a ghost

[ornate bone]

too much brain rot

[rotund shoal]

so its actually fun now

[full nebula]

Agile seems good but all you need is flatdamage as long as you regulate your movement

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/korone-hololive-gif-20311794

dog girl pfp

[twilit shard]

🥚

[fast tiger]

dead

[sinful maple]

I'll check it out man, thank you

[fleet zealot]

this, if agile was on a weapon with shit dodges, it would be better, or if darktide wasn't so forgiving with dodges and having such strong dps blessings

[copper hawk]

I was saying it's absurd to make the claim that because Roundfish doesnt include the SB by default and it's modded we should disregard the data it collects due to balance considerations

Data is data

Should balance around only appears in the killfeed

Lol

https://tenor.com/view/islam-astaghfirullah-haram-gif-22586634

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-23548728

[royal vortex]

data is actually the plural of anecdotes so you basically just need enough killfeed screenshots to prove a point

[ornate bone]

tbh psyker warpfire needs a nerf, too many dog kills in the killfeed

also nerf like all the melee weapons

I keep seeing them kill gunners

[copper hawk]

Lmfao yah

[coarse birch]

Using crusher for the next 1000 hours and just screenshotting everytime i kill a shotgunner pack to get it nerfed

[ornate bone]

but buff plasma on vet, I don't see it kill a lot in the killfeed

[copper hawk]

LMFAO

Another pack destroyed.. what has become of Atoma.. #AtomaHasFallen

[fleet zealot]

500 cleave to plasma gun

[royal vortex]

i am exclusively playing recon and shooting every flamer tank near you

[ornate bone]

atoma has fallen, billions of rejects must repent

[copper hawk]

Wrruuf wrruuuf

Arf arf

Dog noises

[twilit shard]

Idk it was carrying me while I was playing Vet yesterday, it seems fine as is

[coarse birch]

You would not play recon that long buddy

[copper hawk]

That the joke .

That the joke lil gloopy .

[twilit shard]

https://tenor.com/view/izutsumi-dungeon-meshi-bleh-delicious-in-dungeon-gif-9708617323582582707

[copper hawk]

Plamma is busted .

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-dog-gif-9102012

[twilit shard]

Ur busted

[copper hawk]

That's not ferret all

To the poor dog

[ornate bone]

not enough killfeeds, need buff

also buff flamer too

I don't see it get any killfeeds

[twilit shard]

I think buff Vet until its the only class left

[ornate bone]

true

[twilit shard]

But thats just imo

[ornate bone]

vet not enough killfeeds

[fleet zealot]

new assail gave me a hacker tier kill feed

[ornate bone]

nerf all classes but vet

[rotund shoal]

give ogryn trauma staff

[fleet zealot]

it's insane

[ornate bone]

buff smite

[twilit shard]

Game should have been all Kasrkin Vets with Hotshot Lasguns

[ornate bone]

it never gets killfeeds

smite needs buff because no killfeeds

10x dmg at least

[coarse birch]

I think the killfeed shouldnt dissapear after a few seconds and then we can just take a screenshot of it at the end of the match and whoevers name appeared most gets their loadout nuked

[frosty herald]

People will latch onto your single mention of killfeeds whilst disregarding your other criticism because they cannot argue with it in a civil manner they have to be condescending about it

[lusty oar]

i think

[ornate bone]

ok but its funny

[royal vortex]

ahem

voidblast

[frosty herald]

This is how you get people to leave

[fleet zealot]

this sushi im eating is pretty good

[polar nexus]

Nobody is talking about taxes 😦