zealot-class

[spare talon]

You can't outskill 3 seperate long hacks with a bad team

[elfin steppe]

Well well well, look who's back.

[paper harness]

I have done a solo run already

Not doing it again

[spare talon]

Literally how

[paper harness]

Vet

Infiltrate

[spare talon]

Ofc

[fading vale]

let's ignore stealth

[fading vale]

[paper harness]

Solo without stealth I don’t think even I could pull off

[elfin steppe]

My biggest complaint is how many spawn gates they've added.

[spare talon]

Not with the time you have to spend on the hack

Every hack can be done without stealth if your fast/lucky enough

[elfin steppe]

It's literally everywhere, bursters and netters are always around the corner.

[spare talon]

But not that one

[paper harness]

Ogryn might be able to be pull it off

[spare talon]

Health curios lmao

Feel no pain

[mossy scarab]

I love the new map personally

[spare talon]

Heavy attack before you hack for dr

[fading vale]

I feel silly running marty knives hammer but it's kinda fun ngl

but fuck the crucis overhead

[spare talon]

That's what I'd do if I ran marty on thammer

But I hate marty so I run the standard momentum build

[fading vale]

I've always run momentum and nothing else before

[elfin steppe]

perfect strike is surprisingly good.

Though you still can't charge into a bunch of ragers

[vagrant blade]

u can't know for sure until u try

[elfin steppe]

I tried. Got violated.

It's like 12 ragers

[fading vale]

DS on zealot seems absolutely broken

[spare talon]

Thammer is a breath of fresh rn cuz I'm too used to weapons that have a safety answer to everything, knifes mobility, dclaw parry, any build with voc, but thammer rn is just base skill in positioning and melee combat

[vagrant blade]

like that meme with the dudes standing behind the coach only it's 12 ragers and the zealot is sitting on the coach

[native sail]

when do you take the fan the hammer revolv over the base one

[spare talon]

12 fucking ragers when I show them my godroll agrip brauto with dance of death:

[elfin steppe]

I thought I could kill them fast, but no, the light attack cleave damage is clearly not enough.

[spare talon]

Basically never
The one advantage it has is slightly better unyielding, at the cost of too much

[native sail]

icic

[fading vale]

hammer has kind of always been one of the only weapons you actually have to use

[native sail]

what ranged guns are good on zealot besides my beloved adored amazing awesome zarona revolver

aside from flamer

[spare talon]

Oh and it's cooler
Not as good but cooler

[drowsy steppe]

db shotgun

[native sail]

oh true

[fading vale]

pretty much all the ranged weapons except lasguns

[spare talon]

Zarona
Flamer
Db shotgun
Agrip brauto
Columnus iag

[elfin steppe]

Bolt pistol is good now. Unless you run into 12 ragers.

[native sail]

when would you take brauto/iag

ragers?

[fading vale]

brauto or iag are for everything

general purpose

[native sail]

i just dont know when i should pull out gun on zealot tbh

aside from "hey that specialit/elite/guy i hate is not melee range"

[spare talon]

When all other roles on your build are filled
If you have tknives for specialists and a weapon that can handle armor, brautos and iags are good for elite clear from a distance

[native sail]

icic

so like on evis+knives

(which i love)

[fading vale]

guns are almost always better at killing lots of specials and most elites quickly

[native sail]

i need to use knives more proactively i feel like im kinda dumb for taking them with revolver

[spare talon]

Either for ragers, gunners, maulers, even shooters
Anything you want gone before you'd have time to get into melee distance (or that you don't want to enter your melee distance)

[native sail]

but i just love second wind so much..

[spiral anvil]

Second wind is compulsory

[spare talon]

I killed like 9 ragers in one mag and the guy spectating me asked what my gun was cuz it shreds

[spare talon]

A surgical handcannon revolver allows you to force rending crits on your tknives

[native sail]

huh

wait do you just

ads

and then knife throw

[spare talon]

With duellist active, anoint, and a +carapace perk, you can force a throwing knife to one shot a crusher

[native sail]

holy based

do knives just inherit your ranged weap traits

[native sail]

i assume you have to ads for 10 surgical stacks for this btw?

before you toss

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1288734033357963277/Darktide_2024.09.25-18.52.mp4?ex=66f64299&is=66f4f119&hm=06bd4a8e2fb088aed883123ff0fb66509bcf93197fbb839de693fd5448355a8c&

[spare talon]

Yes
And perks

[native sail]

LOL

thats hilarious

[native sail]

can i get talent advice for this setup then

[spare talon]

.

[native sail]

yea outside of those i mean

i mean

i guess this is just kinda standard

[spare talon]

That's all that matters for this
Almost every build paths by or takes duellist, since it's a huge damage increase and is right next to until death

[native sail]

i could get rid of uh

purge the unlcean

for something else

[spare talon]

Swift certainty

[native sail]

idk someone told me to try it

it feels kinda nice

[spare talon]

That's 5% sprint speed

[native sail]

i thought it was 10

D:

did they nerf it this patch?

[spare talon]

Yes

[native sail]

i didnt really read any of the notes except for blessings and psyker talents

[spare talon]

The additional effect is just sprinting perpendicular to gunfire to dodge it also works while you're out of stamina

[native sail]

oh hey these are cool changes

[spare talon]

But you can also just slide

[native sail]

is invocation of death good now

was it good before idk

[spare talon]

Yes

It's much better now

[native sail]

i mean its not like you take the other option to get piety

but its neat

what weaps do you even use on piety

i assume like maybe dagger>

[spare talon]

Finesse weapons

[native sail]

oh wait

DUELING SWORD

!!!!

[native sail]

any weap with finesse as a stat?

[spare talon]

Knife works, duelling sword, dclaw, chainsword

[spare talon]

Any except Rashad, it doesn't need that, momentum is what that weapon wants

It's also a finesse weapon with one of the lowest finesse bonuses so

[native sail]

which dclaw mark is best

[spare talon]

Mk4 is the one most people like

[native sail]

ive been meaning to give it a go now that crafting exists

i assume just savage+rampage?

[spare talon]

That being said, any of the finesse weapons also work with IJ
It's just that I wouldn't use piety unless you're running kne

[native sail]

or is it better to go shred

[spare talon]

Shred rampage

[native sail]

kk

is the uh

ill just post actually

[frosty herald]

Bloodthirsty rampage

[native sail]

something like this for talents on dclaw then?

[paper harness]

No

[native sail]

i assumed you would want the uh

crit talents in top right

[paper harness]

IJ is simply more valuable

[native sail]

for piety

[paper harness]

Than piety

[native sail]

like in general

or for dclaw specifically

[paper harness]

In general

[spare talon]

If you're going piety I'd swap the top two for twbs

[paper harness]

With shred you already have enough crit change to hit breakpoints, so the dodge distance and speed is more important than stacked crit chance

[native sail]

makes sense

[spare talon]

But since the crit cdr change i've moved to momentum

[native sail]

i thought you dont take twbs if you take piety since punishment?

[spare talon]

And I take crit cdr with it

[paper harness]

Same

[drowsy steppe]

i fuck with hs heavy

[paper harness]

I’m rebuilding all of my zealot builds rn

[spare talon]

Dude crusher one shot parries are so reliable now I don't get it

[stone fern]

the triple 80 rashad

so fucking good

[paper harness]

Knife, caxe, dclaw, hs done

Now tactical axe, chaxe, smaul and crusher

[native sail]

can you share the dclaw and hs ones

[solar gorge]

i can't play still how's the new modifier ?

with the armored groaners

on hi stg

does it look cool at least

[vapid sun]

I hardly noticed there were armored

[obtuse solstice]

like this?

[solar gorge]

that's what i feared oh well

if they look cooler than normal groaner i can't complain

[spare talon]

Punishment only realistically stacks in hordes, which is the situation you'd honestly need it the least

[native sail]

makes sense

[spare talon]

Twbs is full stun immunity, melee and ranged

Despite what it says

Also ranged knock backs tooo

Like from shotgunners and reapers

Punishments is like what, 3.5 or 5 seconds before it fully drops off

Twbs is always there

[rotund shoal]

im switching to bolter

its so fun with dance of death

[spare talon]

Exactly tha

[paper harness]

I will probably hit 0 plasteel

[spare talon]

I sacrifice the attack speed cuz I have IJ and basically perma fotf

[vapid sun]

Skipping 10% attack speed? SHAME

[spare talon]

Which is what you did too lol

You already have 40% at nearly all times

35%

[drowsy steppe]

I went broke on plasteel asap as I booted and when to hadron

[spare talon]

Forgetting that fotf is 20 not 25

[paper harness]

I had 200k

110

Now

Also docket capped down to 18

[solar gorge]

trying my best to go broke but i'm too rich

[spare talon]

I'm going to burn myself out before I spend all of my shit

[paper harness]

Today will literally just be mastery and inventory management

[spare talon]

580k at the start, now at 535k

[solar gorge]

having to click on all the blessings up to tier 4 in the mastery tab is annoying

[drowsy steppe]

I may have made a mistake trying chained deathblow on my psykers hs

[paper harness]

@lusty oar you awake?

[spare talon]

Idk what it was
But hsword on vet felt fucking weak

[paper harness]

Which line to change to increase total loadouts

[spare talon]

Maybe it's cuz I haven't used it in ages

[paper harness]

Thanks pumpkin

[drowsy steppe]

IJ really spoiled melee combat

[pulsar zinc]

so uh, does this fully replenish dodge efficiency when you hit a weak spot, or? wondering if this'd be fun for a momentum build tbh

[solar gorge]

im' gonna have to install the mods to get more loadouts even if it pains me

[frosty herald]

Yes

[solar gorge]

fs refuses to add more

[frosty herald]

Infinite dodges

[pulsar zinc]

that sounds extremely goofy in a really good way

[lean lark]

welcome to darktide mobile game

[paper harness]

Shit man I have been at 10 on zealot for ages

[frosty herald]

Its a pretty nice skill based blessing

[stone fern]

did they buff marty attack speed?

[paper harness]

Sacrificing dps for agile

No

[stone fern]

feels faster now idk

[solar gorge]

ur faster

[stone fern]

must be the JOY in my heart from the crafting update

[paper harness]

Love how everyone’s naked outside of mine broke

[pulsar zinc]

so, what are some ideal flamer blessings?

[solar gorge]

BA and the new rending one im guessing

haven't touched flamer yet

[pulsar zinc]

Blaze away + Penetrating flame then? yeah that was what i was assuming would be a solid choice

[solar gorge]

you can also do BA + Overpressure

now that it is fixed

[vagrant blade]

what about perks ? flak unyielding still the mvp choice or now you could put carapace in there ?

[pulsar zinc]

finally, i shall never have rev it up on a weapon again

[lean lark]

elites cara for perks

[vagrant blade]

elites cara interesting idea, oke time to give it a try

[lean lark]

rending blaze away for blessings

[solar gorge]

i'mma avoid running the rending flamer blessing tbh

[elfin steppe]

I want that recon lasgun

[somber drift]

Hi gamers.
What perks do you guys rock on Crucis THammer?

[solar gorge]

Gonna do BA+Overpressure

[lean lark]

cara/elites unyielding

[elfin steppe]

What's going on? What's with the delay?

[pulsar zinc]

what delay?

[spare talon]

Playing psyker and vet for a while then going back to zealot felt like I just had a good night's sleep for the first time

[lean lark]

cara if elites doesn't hit 3 thrust stacks kill on crushers

[pulsar zinc]

Also can someone give me the short and skinny on what they changed about TH?

[frosty herald]

Shock & awe skullcrusher groaner and unarmored

[lean lark]

that you couldn't did with momentum

[somber drift]

Bait used to be believable

[spare talon]

It's good
Gooder
Gooderer

[frosty herald]

Oh no its super cerial

[pulsar zinc]

like better cleave, or?

err, cleave damage, i mean

[solar gorge]

1 cleave even for crucis

[lean lark]

better dmg overall for a bit less unyielding

and less self stun

[solar gorge]

it used to have 0 on special hit

[pulsar zinc]

hmmmm

[visual blade]

what's the stance on zealot dueling swords?

[spare talon]

Drastically reduced stuns after charged attacks

[lean lark]

Which should be reverted instantly

or made less strong

[spare talon]

Crucis charged heavy is now an overhead

[pulsar zinc]

ooh, sexy.

also i can only give my own opinion natascha but

[lean lark]

no downsides

[pulsar zinc]

I love them

[vagrant blade]

better cleavage, we finally have sister repentia cosplay

[somber drift]

We win these.

[pulsar zinc]

loved Rapier in VT2, love Dueling swords here

[solar gorge]

can't believed they fumbled the thammer's mastery skin it look so ass

[lean lark]

would you like a red brick to go on your stick

We have it now.

[solar gorge]

it's just the comissary one but with gold

[solar gorge]

my stance on zel ds

revert

[dense karma]

you're not supposed to stand on it

[pulsar zinc]

so in theory tho now

[solar gorge]

stop me

[lean lark]

ds is getting nerfed first probably

[visual blade]

very balanced

[vagrant blade]

ds is balanced by having atrocious cleave damage

[visual blade]

give the strongest melee weapon to the melee class

[frosty herald]

They couldve had wiring or some chains

[spare talon]

It's a 2 shot with precog and thrust without crits

[frosty herald]

They are mechanicus skins after all

[lean lark]

ds is not balanced

[vagrant blade]

how so

[pulsar zinc]

it does not have atrocious cleave damage lol

[drowsy steppe]

busted

[pulsar zinc]

that shit was chewing through hordes like a hot knife through butter last night

[vagrant blade]

doesn't it take like 10 light attacks to kill 3 scab bruisers ?

[vapid sun]

Dueling sword is best only cause its a pirate sword, and I like wearing an eyepatch

[polar nexus]

i went riposte precog on my bp build, should i go precog thrust/uncanny?

[pulsar zinc]

can't say i noticed it taking an absurd amount of hits to kill stuff, might be because with Zeaot buff 10 swings takes like 2 seconds

[lean lark]

I'm not going to write a paragraph like I used to, I'll just tell you to go in psykhanium and realize it yourself

but it's busted

[solar gorge]

if you ran it on psyker you knew it was busted, still is busted

and will probably remain busted

[pulsar zinc]

i do hope they don't absolutely gut it though, Rapier was my fav weapon in VT2 and i'd hate to see it go from being busted to not being worth running

[ember yew]

everyone and their moms been using DS4

what about the others (marks) tho

[polar nexus]

what about nutaxe?

[somber drift]

That's why you take Kantreal Shotty or Flamer.
Doesn't matter that it's got atrocious cleave, it's single target is so strong that you can entirely dedicate your ranged to hording and you'll be gucci.

DSword is nutso busted.

[polar nexus]

i have been runnin inventory management pro

[somber drift]

Thunder Hammer on Psyker when?

[pulsar zinc]

i am glad perfectionist only increases cd by 25% now

[dense karma]

i wonder what new cool stuff gunkers can have now

[solar gorge]

i have been upgrading my blessings on the mastery tab for 8 hours

help

[polar nexus]

bro i am here

take my hand, let's go, let's leave

[solar gorge]

i haven't even played 1 mission since the patch 😭

[drowsy steppe]

combat shotguns

[glass spade]

"IJ"?

[drowsy steppe]

inexorable judgement keystone

[jolly smelt]

Anyone having issues with blessings and masterys? I used revolver and flamer almost exclusively on my zealot but saying my revolver is 0 mastery?

[paper harness]

Nerf pls

[ember yew]

open character interface and there's a new Masteries tab

above

[paper harness]

1m dockets

[somber drift]

Just because you asked-

no.

[paper harness]

noooooo

[jolly smelt]

thats what im looking at

[drowsy steppe]

still the best psyker melee

[paper harness]

finally one actual 380

should test the sub 60 mob ones

[somber drift]

Just dropping this.
I will not elaborate.

[paper harness]

I know how that was done

[somber drift]

Nuh uh

[paper harness]

same bug which is why one chinese player is at 13k on psyker

[somber drift]

No

:)

[paper harness]

new one hmm

[somber drift]

Nice guess, but no

[paper harness]

Guess instead of seeing if they fixed the door clips, guess i am trying to xp dupe

[somber drift]

There is no XP dupe.

If there was, I wouldn't elude to it

[dense karma]

holy

[paper harness]

Even with 4500 hours

it could not be done with xp curios outside of speedrunning

[ember yew]

[solar gorge]

fs gave all testers 10 billions XP

[somber drift]

Nah

[drowsy steppe]

just gonna drop this here

[paper harness]

s

so it is just a visual bug

[polar nexus]

that is the tester frame Grond?

[solar gorge]

a true hater of the witches

[solar gorge]

it is

[drowsy steppe]

nah I have a high level psyker

[rotund shoal]

God fk the train mission is so frustratring histg

[polar nexus]

Thank your for you service Grond

[rotund shoal]

Im not like this normally but seeing the same 2 level 45 smykers queuing up game after game

makes me want to bb myself

[polar nexus]

The Obese was pleased

[drowsy steppe]

block them

[solar gorge]

no

you can't barrel them if you do that

[modest gale]

Is the knife now playable at endgame ? ^^

[mystic ether]

It already was.

[paper harness]

what is that question

[dense karma]

everything is playable

[rotund shoal]

knife was good since patch 1 literally

[modest gale]

It was, but way harder to play than any other melee weapons

[paper harness]

no? tf

[mystic ether]

That's mostly a pilot thing in my experience. You can make more mistakes than you think if you're aware of your dodging habits and surroundings.

Learning how to mob enemies appropriately, sneaking in heavies in crowds, etc.

[paper harness]

longest dodge distance

[modest gale]

I remember how many haters there was in this chat about the knife.
As long as you talked about the knife here, basically 90% of people woud tell you to dont play it

[paper harness]

fastest dodge speed

[rotund shoal]

Cuz its op

Not cuz its bad

[paper harness]

fastest attack

high damage to everything

give me 2 mins and I will show it

[solar gorge]

ppl were more angry at the average knife user with double bleed that were usually clueless

[mystic ether]

I mean, that was when the game was newer I suppose. Most combat knife stuff that people don't like are knife players that fumble too frequently. knife can make people think they're invincible because they have more robust dodge stuff going on to compliment it usually. And there's certainly safer, easier to use alternatives between each class that could use it.

[spiral anvil]

No because people don't know how to build/use it

[polar nexus]

pre p13 knife was not really good in terms of dmg

[mystic ether]

Like, you can sit on your hands with knife loadouts and playstyles and do decently well if your defense target priority aren't too bad. But you're not going to get more out of it unless you learn how to do it and that can be pretty hard. Wouldn't know about some of the oldest patches after a while because I'm just not remembering that.

[paper harness]

The knife is the strongest defensive melee in the entire game

[polar nexus]

after p13 they added duellist, changed rending, boosted uncanny and changed all the adm

[modest gale]

Which build would you use for a knife ? (weapon build, secondary weapons, perks)

[mystic ether]

I keep it simple on zealot

[paper harness]

it is also potentially the single strongest offensive weapon

[polar nexus]

you cannot say both were the same

[spiral anvil]

"but what if I get surrounded"

[mystic ether]

Knife/revolver.

[paper harness]

dodge

and go 500 meters

[spiral anvil]

B-b-but running is heretical

I only press W

[mystic ether]

Ideally, you shouldn't be getting surrounded if your back is exposed. And knife 101 is just punching tiny holes through hordes to weave in and out as needed.

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/speech-bubble-gif-25352052

[somber drift]

Yes

[somber drift]

Always was

[brazen umbra]

New thammer

Yummy

Why are we talking about literally anything else in zealot chat

[mystic ether]

zealot chat goes through loops. We're back on the knife one for a ittle bit.

[royal vortex]

flesh tearer lacerate

[mystic ether]

There it is.

[paper harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1266848376721506385/caption-16.gif

[royal vortex]

nobody has ever been more annoying than this one rev it up chainaxe guy i played with

[solar gorge]

rivers of blood...

[royal vortex]

who pivoted from failing to speedrun mercantile to just running in circles not hitting anything

[solar gorge]

btw if anyone got shit frame i uncapped them and it fixed it

[vagrant blade]

how do you uncap your frames

[solar gorge]

seems like the frame capping is broken for me

options

[vagrant blade]

and is that allowed by the terms of service of darktide ?

[royal vortex]

no.

it's illegal

[solar gorge]

yeah i'm a criminal

[brazen umbra]

...

Based

[solar gorge]

i'm constantly running away from the swedes

[brazen umbra]

I'm not a big fan of the government

[obtuse solstice]

anything over 30 is cheating

[brazen umbra]

Thirty thirty thirty

[ember yew]

wdym

if you use frame generation

enable 72 fps and with Frame Gen on it's 144

[brazen umbra]

Heavy attack on thammer also reaches max stacks of thrust crazy fast

[solar gorge]

no i mean the in game option

[ember yew]

nvm then

[solar gorge]

i had it capped at 120 before patch and it ran fine

[brazen umbra]

Like maybe only twice the time taken to confirm the heavy from a light

[solar gorge]

now it runs like shit when i cap it but extremely smooth when on unlimited

[drowsy steppe]

pause

[royal vortex]

there's literally nothing funnier in a videogame than 7 days to die letting you eat broken glass

[solar gorge]

chat is this real

[royal vortex]

you choke on it and die

it gets me every time

[solar gorge]

peak

[vocal pulsar]

New here?

[brazen umbra]

Yo the holy Roman empire

[vocal pulsar]

Please read the server rules @royal vortex

[royal vortex]

yeah i just got the game

[solar gorge]

2 blue hours

[vocal pulsar]

2 scribble hours

[solar gorge]

dabe dee da be do

[royal vortex]

why did they rename a bunch of random shit

im still mad

ive only gotten angrier about it

[fading vale]

uh oh, the creature is here

[drowsy steppe]

I just

blew myself up because of a flamers gas

how fun

[fading vale]

[royal vortex]

i had a recon lasgun vet with no talents and 3 wound curios (he went down 5 times. he was not that guy) who kept shooting flamer tanks

constantly

[fading vale]

based

[royal vortex]

he was a menace

[frosty herald]

New sm2 patch

Sparring arena time

[brazen umbra]

I had no clue the pick axe was called the delving axe

[royal vortex]

i do not want to verify the integrity of my files fs

stop asking

[fading vale]

are you gonna play soon josho

[royal vortex]

yea

[fading vale]

hmm

I be down to play after I drink some coffee

[royal vortex]

nice

[brazen umbra]

So what's new?
Thammer can one tap crushers and maulers easier than anything in the game now.
One tap gunners with charged light.
Plasma can no longer ignore the bulwarks shield

[fading vale]

the lights on hammer in general are a good bit better

1 tap quite a few things without charging especially when you have buffs up

[brazen umbra]

Two tap mauler heads with lights with proper perks

Hell the damage against flak and unarmored on uncharged attacks is wild now

[fading vale]

I really don't like the heavy overhead now

much less fun

but oh well I guess

[ember yew]

@spare talon

Fixed a crash occurring when enabling FSR 3.1 frame generation without upscaling.

The max potential stats preview will now display correctly on all weapons.

[rotund shoal]

Evis II (III now) BIS perks/blessings?

thinking rampage/ss or rampage/wrath

and flakiac

[viral dagger]

What perks/blessings do we like for crusher?

[gritty geyser]

is Duellist good for chainaxe martyrdom?

it's usually a staple in a lot of weapons but does the chaxe benefit from crit to weakspot?

[polar nexus]

Lazorr and Josho are back and that's the best news today

back together

[drowsy steppe]

rampage and ss/shred

[stone fern]

which heavy sword is the not restartded one

like the one that doesnt have the slow H1

[polar nexus]

do you know wich mod is fucking with the sacrifice interface?

[paper harness]

wittled down to keeping

[stone fern]

i think u should disable all the mods until u finish crafting

sort by name go down them one by one

still kept a few copies of some weapons tho

[paper harness]

only 380 perfect bases

[stone fern]

ye same but some have the 60 in other places

my god the 80s 60 rashad FUCKS so hard

[lean lark]

what

[polar nexus]

i tend to keep weapons with modfiers > 70

[lean lark]

slow heavies? On hsword?

[paper harness]

7 is the best hs

[stone fern]

slow-er

[stone fern]

ah so 7 is the worst one

[north niche]

7?

[lean lark]

6 is the best hsword

9 has the best horde clear

7 has better flak clear

[polar nexus]

hu oO

[lean lark]

the difference between 7 and 6 is like a couple seconds so it doesn't change much

for hordes

[polar nexus]

9 has the best horde clear on lights

[lean lark]

yeah

[polar nexus]

the adm is better with flak on the 4 lights

[north niche]

i see

[polar nexus]

but h2 is inferior to 7 and 6

[north niche]

not that i would use hsword on zealot, but i am trying it on veteran

ive liked 9 there

[lean lark]

on hsword9 you can loop h1 special

for single target

[grave nebula]

Can you play the mission where you kill the 2 boss twins anymore?

[north niche]

zola > special assignment

[grave nebula]

tyy

[mortal quail]

Any tips for Purging Flames? It seems like a lot of the kills are not even registering, and in general it's a massive pain. I threw a lot of nades into hordes on high intensity auric damnation and progressed like 20 "burns"

[north niche]

its the bottom left of the mission terminal

[hybrid flare]

so how do you get 510 weapons now?

[grave nebula]

Also What is the strengths/purpose of the Crusher for Zealot? to me it feels very versatile, like you can do anything and everything with it

[hybrid flare]

just buy greys off the shop and upgrade them?

[lean lark]

crusher is very good all-rounder

[north niche]

crusher is good at everything, and it got a huge buff this patch with actual blessings to use

[north niche]

so i been playing heavy sword on vet and using mk9. i almost exclusively L1 > H2 > H3 spam for hordes, and it does its job, lights do nothing but i need to combo into the sweeps. is there a better sword for that?

[grave nebula]

huh? a buff? wdym, I didn't see anything relating to it

[north niche]

the special swing kills almost everything with a weak spot hit

[lean lark]

slaughter can be put on it

[grave nebula]

yeah that is what I gathered from it, it's like a perfect weapon for me in that case. Doesn't seem overly weak in anything either, so really nice

[grave nebula]

oh I see, is Slaughter really that good?

[north niche]

previously you only had skullcrusher as damage source, which was fine but you needed to knock shit around

[grave nebula]

what does "Strength" stat even do?

[frozen glen]

its power

cleave damage stagger

[lean lark]

not really

[north niche]

now you have thunderous and slaughterer to mess around with over the relatively useless hammerblow

[lean lark]

The other two work on aiming your deathblow

[north niche]

you still use DB on the 9 thought, right?

[lean lark]

it has 100% cleave dmg for the first 2 things you hit then decays

[paper harness]

It did not need a buff

[north niche]

i didnt say it did huhuhu

[lean lark]

on the 9 I'd probably use rampage instead of deathblow

[grave nebula]

so now skullcrusher and slaughter?

[lean lark]

since it has sweep heavies

so rampage headtaker

[north niche]

would DB stil help it sweep bruisers or does it not matter

[grave nebula]

oh so all 3? damn that's nice

[frozen glen]

yeah that's what power does

its just renamed to strength

[grave nebula]

oh I see

[north niche]

imo you cant go wrong with any of thunderous, slaughterer, and skullcrusher

[grave nebula]

Would you call Crusher the best "jack of all trades..." weapon in the game right now?

[lean lark]

it would still help it

[polar nexus]

death blow headtaker is better than rampahe headtaker

as long as you are able to hit the bp

[lean lark]

if you're up against multiple elites on the mk9

[north niche]

i use special against elites

[vast basin]

That would be rashad

[lean lark]

oh then just go mk6

instead

[frozen glen]

duelling sword imo

[lean lark]

and spam heavies into hordes and elites

[frozen glen]

ds4 zealot is the most busted melee rn

[north niche]

dueling sword i would not consider jack of all trades, its pretty bad into hordes

[grave nebula]

pros/cons of Thunderous and Skullcrusher? why choose one over the other?

[frozen glen]

i put inexorable judgement and lightspam to hordes with agile

you are untouchable and you have decent clear

[drowsy steppe]

hsword

[grave nebula]

ewww the most basic bitch one handed axe

[north niche]

skullcrusher is only active if the enemy is staggered in animation, thunderous applies stacks that are always active

[drowsy steppe]

clears everything, decent to struggling against crusher

[north niche]

thunderous probably isnt the best either, crusher is pretty slow

[polar nexus]

you proce skullcrusher with the special or grievious wounds if you don't put hammerblow

[drowsy steppe]

use IJ (best keystone) for the best all rounder keystone

[grave nebula]

it is such an Unzealot like weapon though haha

[north niche]

yea skullcrusher means you use the special swing more

now that i think about it, im not entirely sure on thunderous because crusher is a pretty slow swinging weapon

but its still free damage

[grave nebula]

with Fury on Zealot, what are the reasons for going inexorable instead of just the crit capstone?

[polar nexus]

ds4 blazing piety goes hard too

[north niche]

blazing piety columnus

[grave nebula]

The swords definitely feel smoother against hordes, but really clunky/weak against crushers and other big bois. + the fantasy is just nowhere near as cool

[north niche]

anyways, either way with crusher you take slaughterer + skullcrusher/thunderous imo, probably skullcrusher is best except against monstros

[grave nebula]

why's that? All arounder as in suitable for all abilities or in general?

[grave nebula]

special swing is the electrocution blast thingy?

[obtuse solstice]

rashad my beloved

[grave nebula]

the slowness is my only complaint with it, but tbh it makes sense and adds to the feel of the weapon as a weighty hammer

The Crusher is based on some kind of Japanese two-handed spiky mace, right?

[grave nebula]

I see, thank you

oh have the devs said that they are not introducing any dual wield weapons in to the game? It's kind of weird to me that a Zealot can't use 2 chain axe's or something akin to that.

1 chain axe just feels weak to me when I can use a huge electric blast crusher or a CHAIN SWORD

[frozen glen]

as long as they bring in the 2h chain axe im fine with not having dual weapons

[grave nebula]

I think I heard that they are planning on adding a 2handed chain axe though

[grave nebula]

ye

I wonder how it's gonna play

just give me a somewhat complex/fluid combo

[wheat quiver]

can you guys get recon lasguns from brunts armory as a zealot?

[stone fern]

ye

they were added to zealot im sure

but now you can only get one mark of a weapon until you have high mastery then you can switch it for no cost

[viral dagger]

how so?

[grave nebula]

What does the Chain axe even specialize in? single target damage?

[frozen glen]

it will 1 shot every armor type without perks except cara which needs a perk to 2 shot, and only needing duellist as precog is overkill in my experience, and agile blessing giving you unlimited dodges, has decent horde clear and really good unyielding damage

[frozen glen]

it's a good all rounder which leans into carapace adms with the specials

you can one shot crushers with thrust

[vocal pulsar]

chaxe 14 or whatver (the new one) can one shot everything with elite + carapace and thrust

[frozen glen]

shit dodges though

[stone fern]

chaxe 14 is so much better than chaxe 4

they imprved the mobility a bit no?

[frosty herald]

Chain weapons also deal nasty damage to voidshields

[viral dagger]

what overall build do you run it on?

[royal vortex]

chaxe 22

[drowsy steppe]

IJ boost your melee and ranged attack speed, dodge speed and distance, and damage so yea

makes melee on the slower weapons much more smooth

[frozen glen]

any build will work as long as you get duellist

i personally run it with inexorable judgement

so i can get faster horde clear

[grave nebula]

oooh okay I see

didn't remember it boosted attack speed

I used the crit capstone because it works well with the cooldown reduction thingy

crits are cool I guess, but mostly I have been using it for CDR

dunno how good it is anymore now that they changed it

only need to crit every 4secs/it's the max you can do for CDR

[paper harness]

Only 3 more zealots melees to roll for

[vagrant blade]

I did a mission solo and at one point the bots died and no more enemies spawned until the very end when I ressed the bots to extract. Could it be loner aura messes with the spawn rate if everybody else is dead ?

[faint vapor]

"Wow these guys suck" stops spawning

[rotund shoal]

probably reached the entity limit

[vagrant blade]

but it's so weird https://youtu.be/ateqCciUsB0?t=189 after I kill a couple stragglers no more enemies all teh way to the end lol

[paper harness]

Loner doesn’t break spawns

[rotund shoal]

.. are you listening to an audio book on 1.5x while playing darktide

in italian

[paper harness]

You might have broken aggro

Because of how the game works

@rocky nacelle Think nade realised he couldn’t do the door skip anymore

[ornate bone]

nade is still here?

[vagrant blade]

aint nobody got time for default speed l

[steep flame]

erm

is it worth buying a month of gamepass for new darktide update?

[ornate bone]

what?

just buy the game

[steep flame]

erm

i have all my progress on it

lol

[ornate bone]

so buy it on xbox????

[steep flame]

no

[rotund shoal]

u asking people in the darktide discord if darktide is worth buying?

[steep flame]

no

reread

[ornate bone]

darktide is kinda bad, I lost too many hours of my life to it

I hate darktide

[rotund shoal]

its worth buying full price

not just gamepass

[ornate bone]

but like

just buy it on xbox app

then play on pc

with xbox acc

its that simple

[native sail]

when do you pop chorus

voice of command is much less commital idk when i should stop killing things to pull out the faith gameplay

[thorny yew]

anytime theres a horde

[native sail]

do you always want molotovs with chorus

[faint vapor]

When you are mildly inconvenienced

[thorny yew]

like actually

[faint vapor]

You can always just stop the chorus anyways

Just get the yellow toughness and facetank a sniper

[native sail]

yeah but dont you want the max pulse

5 pulse bonus thing

or do you not even take that

[faint vapor]

You can if you want

But if the problem is not killing then just end the chorus

[fleet zealot]

No

It’s such a small buff for all the time spent with zero dps

[faint vapor]

The main benefit is the yellow toughness and stagger which you get at the first pulse

So anymore after that is to buy time for allies

Or to ledgekill a boss

Never gets old doing that

[radiant nacelle]

New flamer blessings any good?

[faint vapor]

Brittleness funny

[rotund shoal]

Its brittleness actually

even betteer

[rotund shoal]

(yes)

[radiant nacelle]

Let me rephrase. Are the new flamer blessings better than overpressure and blaze away?

[radiant nacelle]

Brutalist means that other people can deal increase damage to it not just yourself right?

[rotund shoal]

yes

[radiant nacelle]

Brittleness*

[faint vapor]

I think the brittleness is better than Overpressure imo

[rotund shoal]

More importantly bolter with fire frenzy goes crazy

Its like old Pinning Fire

[grand spruce]

Wow, they added wooden weapons to the game

[radiant nacelle]

Old pinning fire was cracked

[rotund shoal]

Feels really good now especially with the faster switch time

[faint vapor]

100% damage buff was fair and balanced UwU

[steep flame]

erm

no

[rotund shoal]

its 50% now but you have to shoot through a horde

[steep flame]

so is it worth trying it on gamepass or no?

[faint vapor]

Pain 😔

[steep flame]

the update i mean

[ornate bone]

no

just buy it

owning things is better

[native sail]

true!

[grand spruce]

Just download it and decide for yourself

[kindred kindle]

is this good for stelth knife build?

[kindred kindle]

its knife perks

[hard nexus]

yes, but with overpressure, blaze away, and unyielding you can kill a boss in 3 mags of a flamer, 2 for a cspawn with the right buffs

personally i prefer overpressure blaze away, because i’m running flamer with thunder hammer or evis

although blaze away inspiring barrage is still a viable option for safely flaming

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[fleet zealot]

Thanks for the professional coding fatshark

[grand spruce]

I mean, 80 x 4 = 320

The math is fine but

[fleet zealot]

The potential tho

[ornate bone]

1% potential is crazy

never seen numbers so high

[paper harness]

well

[steep flame]

erm

[ornate bone]

Are you supposed to go for a crit build with duelling swords or nah?

[rigid trellis]

thats what I'm using but I could see inexorable being good with that big attack speed boost

it already swings crazy fast after fotf

[glossy sparrow]

rashad has broken me

i'm trying all these other weapons

and it's like, not rashad

[ornate bone]

rashad is mid

boring weapon

m1 spam

have fun, be happy

play like thunder hammer

or crusher

[glossy sparrow]

whats crusher like, havent gotten to that 1

[ornate bone]

I haven't played much of it yet but I've heard its fun

[misty nova]

Combo weapon

If you want to M1 then get the XIIIg with wrath

[glossy sparrow]

combo like i have to do a specific sequence?

[ember yew]

You can replace maniacs with Unyelding

[glossy sparrow]

like push attack l4 h2 or some stuff like that

idm those

[mossy scarab]

Crit flamer seems funny. Unlimited mag size.

[ember yew]

you kinda dont need that, tho

99% of the time one mag is enough

[misty nova]

Little less complicated than that but yes

[rotund shoal]

?

Blessing is not available

[mossy scarab]

I know it's not "good" but you don't need good to clear standard damnation missions

[rotund shoal]

Oh im stupid I didnt use my blessing point

[ember yew]

you can go with Blaze Away + either 20% rending blessing OR Overpressure

flamer already got some good choices

[mossy scarab]

I know. I said fun, not effective

[ember yew]

i mean, one mag is enough for usual Auric HISTG missions, there's not that many targets in Normal Damnation

[grave nebula]

REAL

[ember yew]

what do to with all those crit shots

[grave nebula]

TRUE, all these one button weapons are soooo boring to me

[mossy scarab]

I swapped out my revolver for a God rolled headhunter and the weapon switch time is terrible. Who made the decision to make me do this?

[rigid trellis]

every weapon is gonna feel slow to whip out compared to the revolver tbf

[kindred kindle]

everything is disable

still have lag problem

[hard nexus]

yes

there’s a crusher guide

[rigid trellis]

someone said yesterday that they reduced their cpu worker threads from 18 to 8 and it helped their performance otherwise idk but also damn unlimited frame cap

[rocky marsh]

[types something i read on reddit to imply i know stuffs about CPU threads, and what poor optimization implementation is likely to cause this situation]

🤓 ☝️

wait im making fun of myself

[rigid trellis]

[rocky marsh]

not sanguinus

fuck

im sorry boss

[oak blaze]

w blazing piety

[rocky marsh]

the joke was that everytime someone posted something like this
I read someone else (which is what i typed) post something that they obviously have no idea about

Though upon reading it seems more like im making fun of you which is not my intent :v

[kindred kindle]

i have 4070
im sure i dont have frame problem

[oak blaze]

unlimited frame cap is NOT WORTh

use gsync if possible

best frame stability

[rocky marsh]

@rigid trellis no angery pls

[rigid trellis]

I'm not lol, I'm just parroting what someone else said and for all I know they were just making it up

[rocky marsh]

i have zero problem with what you said, i just typed that because i had the feeling someone else will type the equivalent of what i typed

everytime that happens, i go read other messages/posts the person has typed and its obvious their technical knowledge is off watching LTT

[stone fern]

tbh

geforce now has a 4080 or a 4090 depending

and i started getting frame rate issues after this update

esp in the new mission

[rigid trellis]

seems like everyone or at least most people are getting frame drops throughout missions

[rocky marsh]

that means i prob can't play the game

one of my ram is dead

my hd2 runs on like 13-15 fps

at peak action time

[rigid trellis]

[rocky marsh]

genuinely hard to aim

[stone fern]

@paper harness check news dev stream in 1 hour

lets fucking goo snipe those people

[drowsy steppe]

eep time for me

[patent elk]

for flamer this setup or will blaze away penetracting flame be better?

[haughty bone]

is it a bug?

I thought the Zealot gets the recon lasgun?

[placid fiber]

Check your masteries on the zealot

[fading vale]

you may be the first person who has looked for recon lasgun

[placid fiber]

iirc someone looked yesterday

[haughty bone]

its max

[placid fiber]

Well it must be a bug that brunt doesn't have it, if you have it in your masteries

@haughty bone maybe check the credits shop?

[drowsy steppe]

yea didnt appear in mine shop either

Melk is selling me a recon on my zealot lmao

bugged ig

lol

[haughty bone]

none for me

[placid fiber]

You should have seen the thammer I was able to get from Melk, yesterday, Lazorr. 80 80 80 on damage, first target, and cc, 76 on pen, and w/e it was on defences. Haven't seen something that good from Brunt since... god idk how long it has been...

Perks and blessings were ass, but, now it didn't matter lol

[glossy sparrow]

the guide for ignatius is breaking my head

[drowsy steppe]

yea

penetrating flame is brittleness or rending?

[lean lark]

brittleness

[charred elk]

brittleness

[lean lark]

meta flamer is penetrating flame blaze away

[glossy sparrow]

skull crusher hammerblow for ignatius?

[acoustic dune]

Heya dr phil

[drowsy steppe]

ok

[acoustic dune]

How's the dark n tide

[charred elk]

skullcrusher slaughterer

[drowsy steppe]

since people were saying the rending blessing on flamer previously

just making sure then

[acoustic dune]

I demand a cycler for the hammer

[placid fiber]

They got power blessings now on the crusher

[lean lark]

interchangeable tbh who cares

[jovial thorn]

anyone got the link to "Thy Holiest Book"?

[glossy sparrow]

oh shiz

[frosty herald]

I love my cat so much

[glossy sparrow]

power on a cc weapon

[fading vale]

I just get perfect every weapon at will now

[glossy sparrow]

surely this will not be crazy

[fading vale]

is almost too easy

[drowsy steppe]

both work diffrently

[lean lark]

wdym

i just got a perf roll version of every weapon in the game

[glossy sparrow]

btw can u pick up your throwing knives?

[lean lark]

i dont see the problem

[placid fiber]

I don't have the money to do that lol

I'm piss poor

[fading vale]

you hardly need any resources either

[acoustic dune]

Why does he look like a monster from darksoul

[glossy sparrow]

like i'm not sure what gives me back my throwing knives

is it just ammo

[frosty herald]

Shes a naked cat

[charred elk]

melee specialist/elite kills

[placid fiber]

I'm so poor, that I owe myself money

[drowsy steppe]

quite happy with how this update turned out

[acoustic dune]

Wtf give her some clothe

[patent elk]

it just encourages grinding mats to get good weapons which imo is better than rng and never getting what u want

[drowsy steppe]

real

[solar gorge]

played a bit of vet and matched with a ds zealot

it's like getting a plasma vet

[frosty herald]

The update is a very strong fundamental that can be used to expand upon the game easier

Marks will also be easier to implement i imagine

[acoustic dune]

I lost all my cash after gambling

[frosty herald]

Broke ass

https://tenor.com/view/two-people-laughing-on-table-laugh-laughing-lol-gif-3006610283817764608

[drowsy steppe]

ig its time to finally play more Ogryn

😭

[placid fiber]

@fading vale Btw: what are your thoughts on being able to freely switch the mks of the weapon?

[drowsy steppe]

good change

[fading vale]

uh, it's fine but I don't really care that much

[lean lark]

tbh they could've just had another crucis mark and kept the old one

[placid fiber]

You gotta admit: It's a huge quality of life type of thing

[fading vale]

idk about "huge" but it's nice

[acoustic dune]

Ey man poverty is no laughing matter

[placid fiber]

What's sad, tho, is my knife is a higher mastery than my thammer...

It was at 400, while my thammer was at like 200...

[acoustic dune]

Btw ey phil

Again

[placid fiber]

Hi :3

I'm getting ready for work x.x

[charred elk]

I literally started buying all lv1 and 2 blessings when they announced how it'd work

[placid fiber]

While chatting lol

[charred elk]

I have all weapons in the game at max mastery on all 4 classes

lol

[acoustic dune]

Did you watch the vid I recommended?

[drowsy steppe]

car sales

[plucky gate]

good thing it costs barely anything to level mastery

it's like maybe 3k plasteel of just spamming stuff to greens

[stone fern]

took me 55k for thrust 4 alone
3 mil for an ok base that didnt brick

[acoustic dune]

God I wanna see the other class use some of ogryn weapon

[stone fern]

gone are the times of suffering

[placid fiber]

Yeah, I know it's pretty cheap lol

[stone fern]

now we have FUN and ENJOY GAMEPLAY

[acoustic dune]

I.agine a giant butter knife in a psycher hand

[placid fiber]

I got t4 headtaker and thrust for my thammer for like... the cost of 2 thammers

[drowsy steppe]

billions must rend

🙂

[stone fern]

This is real life chuddie....

[frosty herald]

Unironically

[stone fern]

reddit gets the dev

[fading vale]

it's pretty easy to get mastery, upgrade around 25-30 grays to green and sacrifice

[ornate bone]

fun? what's that?

[plucky gate]

too bad i'm out of ordo dockets now

[frosty herald]

The game gets much more enjoyable knowing you dont need to farm obscene amounts to get mandatory blessings to make a weapon work

[placid fiber]

I'm just piss poor atm lol

[drowsy steppe]

gone are the days

getting mad over shit rolls

[plucky gate]

last time i played was like 6+ months ago and i left off poor from crafting

regretting all those times i've dumped like millions of ordos on shit

[pale spindle]

What is the best blessings for Dualing on Zealot?

[stone fern]

THRUST

just get THRUST twice

[solar gorge]

i like the changes overall to the crafting, but it's not like i can experience them fully, i've been maxxed out everywhere for months

so i guess i kinda don't care about them

[royal vortex]

the only thing fatshark actually wanted to accomplish was to make you click like 8 million fkin buttons in a row

[hard nexus]

how the fuck

[stone fern]

billions must click....

[solar gorge]

that's the only thing i got to experience out of the crafting rework

a darktillion clicks

[frosty herald]

im happy for the new players that dont have to slog through the old crafting

[paper harness]

we return

[drowsy steppe]

billions must receive rending

[hard nexus]

my only guess is when they reconnected it screwed up scoreboard

[solar gorge]

yeah good for them

[hard nexus]

cuz powerdi is more accurate

[solar gorge]

i trolled my first smyker with the new exploding scab flamers last match

feels good

[glossy sparrow]

lol ignatius is so funny

what is this h2

[hard nexus]

also i think flamer explosions count for situational awareness

[glossy sparrow]

can i stun bosses with this thing

[hard nexus]

no

unfortunately

as far as i know, the only thing that can stagger bosses are abilities and grenades

[glossy sparrow]

fine fine

i shall not rule the world with this mace

just 90% of the melee

[frosty herald]

Btw what do the new moebians do

[royal vortex]

they need to bring back voidstrike doing it

[royal vortex]

nothing

they just look blue

[glossy sparrow]

they're thiccer

[frosty herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1284620687012659200/4x-2.gif

[solar gorge]

they have flak chests

that's all there is

[royal vortex]

the only thing noteworthy is that if you have the moebian 21st set from the pearl clutcher thing you can look the same as them

[solar gorge]

flak chests on groaners

[stone fern]

@grizzled aspen my bolter crusher bp is now 5 bullets

[hard nexus]

just flak

[glossy sparrow]

it's like having more armored chest but weak heads

[hard nexus]

thats it

[glossy sparrow]

so just headhunt

[royal vortex]

i do like the modifier more because it's hishock + something else

[placid fiber]

The thing I am happiest about is heavy sword Vet lol

[frosty herald]

Framegen localisation is still missing

[grave nebula]

that profilepic tho...

[solar gorge]

can't spit on more modifiers

[royal vortex]

which gives me a very mild amount of hope they'll stop adding non hishock modifiers to the auric board

[hard nexus]

hishock + hordes that take anothert 2 seconds to clear compared to normal

actually

[drowsy steppe]

alright

[hard nexus]

theyd clear faster if you have flak on lmfao

[drowsy steppe]

its heavy swording

time

[glossy sparrow]

do you only activate special for ignatius h1

[royal vortex]

having a different type of horde to look at is kinda cool

[hard nexus]

the crusher?

[glossy sparrow]

yes

[hard nexus]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3127724964

[placid fiber]

Vet is the only class I feel comfortable using the revolver on, ironically, so heavy sword + vet = easy set up for armor and hordes

[hard nexus]

long story short

[royal vortex]

the light has infinite cleave, sorta depends what you want to do with it

[stone fern]

🤔

[solar gorge]

they look cool, some even have helmets on

[hard nexus]

different attacks have different effects from the special

h1 does more damage, wider stagger

[stone fern]

can puncture help scourge get going faster?

[hard nexus]

l1 does less damage, infinite cleave

[fading vale]

Mr crusher guide author when are you making a new one

[hard nexus]

its still accurate

just the blessings need 2 be changed

[drowsy steppe]

best pistol and you only use this on vet..

[glossy sparrow]

what is BC

[hard nexus]

huh

[scenic chasm]

revolver good on zealot, but not as good as bolt pistol or Agrippina 7 shotgun

[glossy sparrow]

the guide says BC

h1 bc h1

[royal vortex]

i'm going to run it through google translate 3 times and then ask chatgpt to summarize

[placid fiber]

I mean I miss enough that the low ammo on revolver for zealot can become sketchy

[drowsy steppe]

presumably