zealot-class

[paper harness]

all ranged weapons deal 50% damage and melee deal 70%

[rocky nacelle]

burgle dogs and burgle trappers

[coarse birch]

cause like HISTG with stuff capped out is about as much as the game will handle and thats with audio breaking on occasion

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-triple-h-head-nod-nodding-approved-gif-13272682

[median steeple]

welcome back vermintide 2

[spare talon]

This hivemind of riposte flesh tearer boggles my mind
I mean it's better than lacerate ft but you're still using bleed without any rending

[copper hawk]

yerp

of course it'll need to be balanced

i wish teh game had less emphasis on disablers

and more on tough chaff enemies

like ragers, maulers, and crushers

my fav part about vt2 was fighting mixed horders of sv and plague monks

it felt interesting and you had to pay attention

especially in cata

mostly cuz the game's melee combat in hindsight isn't all that good compared 2 dt,, but it felt hard

we should have a cata mode in darktide

[coarse birch]

hordes being a threat would probably be good

[copper hawk]

although it might fuck like half the keystones lmfao

[modern lintel]

another thing is hack and slash games tend to kill themselves off w high tier players i.e chiv1 mordhau because the devs have to make a decision to cater to either shitters or high tier players but the ppl that are going to stick around the longest are the high tier sweats but the ones that are going to keep the game alive and produce profits are reg joes chiv2 sort of fixed the problem but in turn completely ignored any sort of comp scene the game could've seriously upheld

[coarse birch]

i wish modded realms would come to DT so players could just make the diff themselves but it wont happen

[copper hawk]

hi intensisty shock troop cataclysm

[coarse birch]

the other important thing here is that its a team game and if one guy can pick void or plasma and solo the map even with the other players not dying it likely wont be fun esp once it gets more common

i think high end stuff just has to come down

obv im biased

[fleet zealot]

league kinda solved this (tho league sucks and their balance team sucks)

[spare talon]

I don't know enough about vt to know what the difference between normal and modded realms are

[fleet zealot]

but they got the formula down

the higher you go, the more people care about the actual numbers

the lower you go, despite what they say, is all feels and fun based

[modern lintel]

thats why i specifically mentioned hack and slash genre

[coarse birch]

i didnt play it much ive just heard it let you make modded realms that made the game harder than the base game allowed in your own personal way

[fleet zealot]

i mean all low vs high elo

is basically the same concept

regardless of genre

[coarse birch]

so you could just make it stupid hard or slightly harder than base

[coarse birch]

yeah this is the thing

the malice players likely wont notice

there is the problem they they see number go down and get mad

[fleet zealot]

it's spinning 2 plates but it's not impossible but lower tier players don't even know what they want most of the time

[coarse birch]

despite it changing nothing for malcie

[fleet zealot]

and annoying people like to use this to stir up drama or boost their own ego

[coarse birch]

you still one shot the guy

[fleet zealot]

exactly, number go down, get mad

[coarse birch]

but no matter what you need to bite the bullet to some degree when making needed balance changes

someone will get mad

but if you nerf stuff malice players arent realistically effected while the top end of difficulty is now healthier, meanwhile if you buff it its the other way around and malice is probably still the same

unless your buffing something thats ass

then its another option they have

[copper hawk]

another issue i see is like

they don't want to separate the groups of players from one another

i've seen that before in games with similar issues

idk honestly if it's a problem or not, i feel like people self sort themselves out into groups anyways

it seemed to work for hd2 they rlly like super helldive

paredot distribution and alldat

[coarse birch]

the top end players are also more likely to stay where as the malice people even after this update and the next etc are likely to come back and try w/e they didnt feel like grinding for and then log off till next update

[copper hawk]

Lmfao yah

[hard nexus]

the issue is when those 10% of enemies appear in a pack of 10

[copper hawk]

not much u can do to retain players who want to win all the time

[coarse birch]

like the average player is not sticking around, most people feel as though theyve done everything after 300 hours

[copper hawk]

h

ho

horus !?

HOOOOOORUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSS

U BETRAYED US ALL

WHY DAMN U

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[fleet zealot]

the 90% of enemies the knife will kill anyways

[hard nexus]

blood angel mindset

[hard nexus]

also this

[fleet zealot]

with premades, yes

[slender sigil]

martydon with rapier next week for big Headshots?

[fleet zealot]

with randoms/pubs

no

every build I have has some way to deal with 10 crushers

[hard nexus]

waiting for bleed is odd, considering the knife can 2-3 shot any enemy already

[coarse birch]

FT also gets the added benefit of hordeclear tbf

[hard nexus]

yeah, seeing it with BP for a really high crit chance will be fun too

[copper hawk]

snoodle

u wanna 4honor

!?

before i run

i need to hydrate before i go

[median steeple]

thinking on how to balance bleed makes my brain hurt and in truth I think the game would be better without

[slender sigil]

BP?

[hard nexus]

blazing piety

[median steeple]

surb

[slender sigil]

a fury

[median steeple]

when you get back do you wanna space amrine

[fleet zealot]

not doing so in your auric pubs is asking to get a team full of no carapace damage andys

[coarse birch]

yeah you have to be careful with DOTS

[fading vale]

leave 6 months ago to bleed discussions - come back 6 months later to bleed discussions

[coarse birch]

things have not changed

only the people

[median steeple]

time is a flat circle

[hard nexus]

reminds me of watching @rocky nacelle deal 47 damage to a crusher on a heavy with a dclaw

[copper hawk]

it never left lazorr

it never left

[fading vale]

it never will

[copper hawk]

we've run into the same issue that's been here forever

[fleet zealot]

like azreal

[copper hawk]

there is nothing left to talk about

[fleet zealot]

is another specific player

[bitter anvil]

Lazorr where you been?

[fleet zealot]

the insane maniac

[copper hawk]

honestly

[fleet zealot]

if darktide had a pro scene

he would be in there

[copper hawk]

like dementia ridden old people on their porch past the age of like 65

that's us

we see more of the same things to complain about

and rock in our rocking chair

occassionally the kids and grand kids visit (updates) and we talk about that

[fleet zealot]

but he is like, a step above what the common recommendations are for

[copper hawk]

then it's back to complaining about the same damn thing every day

yummers

[fleet zealot]

the recomnendations are for people who are going to be playing pubs primarily

[copper hawk]

or shitposting (playing checkers w ur other retirees)

[fading vale]

I have been at a place gaining mystical powers of the mind

[bitter anvil]

Meditation

[hard nexus]

like dorn, his builds are good for him and players that can actually get use out of them, but it’d be harder for normal players to get use out of them

[median steeple]

I'm glad we can experience the retirement non of us will see

[ornate bone]

wait what are we supposed to complain about

[coarse birch]

i think the top level of gameplay in DT is very cool which is the main reason i keep playing

[ornate bone]

I thought this was off topic chat

[fading vale]

I can meditate like a champ now let me tell you

[coarse birch]

gameplay is simply

unmatched in DT for me

look man you gotta like uh

[hard nexus]

real, DT has the best gameplay loop of any game i’ve ever played, except maybe ultrakill

[coarse birch]

aim for heads

[fleet zealot]

bm ht is not the same as skipping uncanny on knife and taking flesh tearer on top of that

i think that is a pretty unfair comparision

[north sedge]

Hello kitty island adventure

[coarse birch]

which says a lot given the using the resource you get out of gameplay is dogshit (till thurs)

[hard nexus]

i said this in gen chat almost word for word earlier lol

[hard nexus]

shit ur right

[fleet zealot]

no one here is disparaging you

[fading vale]

yeah high level DT play is dope, there is a place for the boring brain off stuff I guess but that is meh to me

[fleet zealot]

so the specific piety build?

or well

not hyper specific

[copper hawk]

gettin a little heated,,

ur gonna make me cry,,

[bitter anvil]

maelstrom is a stress test for me

[fleet zealot]

cause if you want to max crit adms you can just go riposte+precog

[hard nexus]

why can’t we all just kiss and make out and and and and and

[spare talon]

It's that day again
Did you guys remember

[copper hawk]

i

i wouldn't fuckin

[hard nexus]

ij crit knife build

[copper hawk]

shake the hands of like

90% of u

let alone smooch

eugh

!

[hard nexus]

i’m in that 90%

[modern lintel]

ok sanguinius

[hard nexus]

siiiiiiiiigh

[spare talon]

I'm in the 10% for sure

[hard nexus]

cole is

for sure

[hard nexus]

ur in my 10%

[copper hawk]

id shake hands with you cole

[hard nexus]

ur in my 1%

[fleet zealot]

basically, what you are seeing is high elo solo que players vs pro players

[hard nexus]

(we’re going to kiss cole)

[spare talon]

Yeah cuz I'm the best

I always stay winning

In everything

[modern lintel]

(coherency)

[spare talon]

That's not real

[median steeple]

kbitty

[hard nexus]

you should be Unepic_Cole, Block Enthusiast

[fleet zealot]

we should encourage players to hit heads

[modern lintel]

hold on

[fleet zealot]

and learn to fight crushers properly

[median steeple]

im ashamed to say I read this completely differently

[hard nexus]

how

[median steeple]

Im so tired

[hard nexus]

that would be wayyy too easy

to use

[modern lintel]

better

[hard nexus]

lmfao

awesome

[hard nexus]

u didn’t capitalize it properly

broken

[modern lintel]

im going to capitalize you

[grizzled aspen]

I'm gonna be real, eviscerator IJ works great.

[hard nexus]

40k devs try to make a revolver and knife not the best weapons challenge

[grizzled aspen]

I only thought to run evisc on martyr builds but damn this thing slaps.

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/super-f-fail-fairlyoddparents-gif-4519236

https://tenor.com/view/super-f-fail-failure-me-when-the-noob-gif-25904886

[hard nexus]

that’s the build i talk about all the time

stinker

[hard nexus]

awwww

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, yeah, Stink Queen, I didn't need you to tell me it was good.

[spare talon]

Piety evis is making a comeback

[grizzled aspen]

🙄

[modern lintel]

free the beast

[hard nexus]

buff mk2 evis H2 to deal mk15 damage

[hard nexus]

yeah the damage cap is silly

[grizzled aspen]

This, but also uncap all target damage caps.

[hard nexus]

also true

let me mulch hordes

every other weapon does that

[grizzled aspen]

Imagine if evisc had bromentum...

[hard nexus]

what’s the dclaws min damage

[hard nexus]

crucius bromemtum , but old bm that could cleave crushers

[spare talon]

Dclaw getting good min damage but requiring crits to do any damage to any actual threat forcing you to take shred is so evil

[hard nexus]

damn

that’s a lot

of course

indubitably

[spare talon]

Splendid.

[hard nexus]

epitome

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/847815813300879360/1276072753488855171/smileybeef_-_1824476702992376093.gif

yeah

it is dumb

mk2 evis is so much fun but

[hard nexus]

just worse than mk15

that’s getting buffed next patch right

it’s getting a chain attack speed buff

oh

sad

that’s dumb considering you like, never heavy, unless it’s a rev

i say like too much

grrrr

i said that already !!

u just ignored me

https://tenor.com/view/saki-brocken-broken-emo-depression-gif-1347326126016651348

yeah agreed

[hard nexus]

.

right now it only does like

[hard nexus]

100 extra damage compared to a h1

to reach a crusher one shot with it, you need like 3 damage buffs

crit, rampage, duelist, desperation

and martyrdom

like 5 stacks of it

[hard nexus]

me

[modern lintel]

so chain axr is good for zeal right is also good for vet or no

[hard nexus]

no clue

i just work here

[rocky nacelle]

@hot jolt

https://tenor.com/view/angry-thiago-mad-angry-fist-emoji-gif-17761307

[hard nexus]

on a rev*

i think it’s like 40 extra damage on a normal heavy

[modern lintel]

mayb good for weapon spec w doublr barrel

[copper hawk]

@grizzled aspen

ok

[median steeple]

this medjay was really hateful

[copper hawk]

yah the med was evil

let's join a strike team and play

[median steeple]

okie dokie

[hard nexus]

:(

vet is going to be even WORSEEEE

[light badge]

@rocky nacelle rolled t4 infernus

game crashes

sweet

[hard nexus]

i hate vet i hate vet i hate vet i hate vet

make vet the worst class in the game and the world will be infinitely better

haaaattteeee

[light badge]

it really won't

[hard nexus]

i just hate vet

so

shhhhhh

[rocky nacelle]

god damnit

[light badge]

do you want all the veterans to become staff psykers?

[rocky nacelle]

why was the first run the cleanest

we literally should have lost that first run at 2 BoNs also

cause one slapped me off

and I spammed jump back

lmfao

didnt get ledged or nothing

[hard nexus]

give zealot a double jump

faith jump or something

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/september-september21-do-you-remember-dancing-in-september-macross-september-gif-18535865

[copper hawk]

FROG

[modern lintel]

my no.1 hater

[copper hawk]

@grizzled aspen

GET

ON

[hard nexus]

the class is so overpowered and for WHAT

[rocky nacelle]

its ok hahnda we tried

[copper hawk]

OMGGG WE'RE WAITIN 4 U

OD( AUJ)R# (A&Y*& ESYFIU #R )*UEFOI JSD(FI JSIDOFH P@ )UF(SY_ YRSOUDHFP I

[rocky nacelle]

im probably gonna be on lethal here soon

[spare talon]

@rocky nacelle

[modern lintel]

the emperor demanded so

[hard nexus]

fuck the emperor

[modern lintel]

yea grendyl this one right here

[buoyant patrol]

Woah woah woah there buddy

[hard nexus]

i don’t know what this video is

[bitter anvil]

Omg Ho chi minh

[paper harness]

Vet needs nerfs to a shit load of talents

[modern lintel]

nu uh

[rocky nacelle]

lightskin

[copper hawk]

dorn

can u post demonpost

pls

[hard nexus]

someone in this server thinks the only things that needs nerfed is VOC and tactical awareness

[copper hawk]

@grizzled aspen JOIN STRIKE TEAM 100

[grizzled aspen]

OK

[hard nexus]

i want this sticker

i want you.

[spare talon]

And they won't get them
Cuz most vets are bad at the game, so clearly the stats mean the class is balanced

[modern lintel]

sus

[rocky nacelle]

so people will join ST100 when cica asks

but when I do it

crickets

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kiryu-kazuma-walk-away-ending-yakuza-the-song-of-life-gif-26311879

[bitter anvil]

We gonna have lobby browser or group finder

[hard nexus]

i don’t ever vc sooo

[rocky nacelle]

@light badge ok unironically yea i think im taking abreak for now also I one of my other friend groups is getting on lethal

ggz for now hahnda

[hard nexus]

i am innocent here

[paper harness]

I have heard you

[hard nexus]

shhh

[rocky nacelle]

cica said i should ask u or frog to vc

but its ok just lie to my face

[modern lintel]

i can be active in like hour

[rocky nacelle]

ill be on lethal unepic

[hard nexus]

i usually only vc with people i feel really comfortable with

[rocky nacelle]

and besides true duo has actually fried my brain for now

[modern lintel]

crickets smhhh

[grizzled aspen]

"I shouldn't say anything about feet, it's like Meow's battlecry." -Cica

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/talk-to-the-hand-arnold-schwarzenegger-terminator-quote-movie-gif-13612079

[hard nexus]

like for known for a while

[rocky nacelle]

dont care

[hard nexus]

alright kys idk what 2 tell u

[hard nexus]

yes hi frog

[rocky nacelle]

d word

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gif-27693681

[paper harness]

One part of it

[rocky nacelle]

just crazy people lie not even 2 my face

[paper harness]

It’s a four part equation

[rocky nacelle]

2 my discords face

[rocky nacelle]

what is the world coming to......

[paper harness]

1 part community feed back, one part playtester suggestions, one part metrics, one part fs employees just making shit as they go

[spare talon]

KILL KILL KILL MURDER SLAUGHTER DESTROY OBLITERATE ANNIHILATE KILL KILL GENOCIDE DIE HATE HATE HATE HATEC

[modern lintel]

who tf even playtest for vet

[paper harness]

Combine

[grizzled aspen]

I HAVE TO LISTEN TO THIS SAME SHIT AT WORK

ITS SO FUCKING BAD

[hard nexus]

hate

[grizzled aspen]

PLEASE LET ME PUT TASTEFUL MUSIC ON THE STORE INTERCOM, I BEG YOU

[spare talon]

HATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATEHATE

[modern lintel]

i still think they shouldve made shovels multi class this update

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/dante-dante-meme-sad-dante-dante-sit-dante-tired-gif-16988616942949961654

[hard nexus]

not lying i just don’t vc with most people

i’ve VCd with frog but i didn’t talk

[grizzled aspen]

IF THE WORD HATE WAS INSCRIBED ONTO EVERY ONE OF MY BLOOD VESSELS, IT WOULD NOT EQUATE TO ONE ONE BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL TOWARDS THE SHIT FUCKING MUSIC THAT IS "STORE FRIENDLY"

[spare talon]

HATRED
UNDYING ANGER FOR THIS SONG

[sullen forge]

its truly going to be something else when they eventually rework the other talent trees cause I have a sneaking suspicion it'll happen with Zealot and Ogryn eventually

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/paolumu-odogaron-monster-hunter-world-destroy-mhw-gif-12955710175627893233

[sullen forge]

and then they end up just power creeping them further

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-darktide-warhammer-40k-40k-zealot-gif-16257746668960706185

[sullen forge]

yum

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-wahlberg-crickets-crickets-chirping-silence-awkward-silence-gif-15496234747179420884

when I join voice chat and use my brain to mental chat instead

[paper harness]

I hope ogryn gets shot in the head this time

[rocky nacelle]

goml

[hard nexus]

psycho and cica were there too

they yapped in my stead

[sullen forge]

NERF, THE, HEAVY TOUGHNESS!

[rocky nacelle]

instead of VCing I will simply beam my ideas

[grizzled aspen]

Which is cringe, btw...

[rocky nacelle]

into my teammate's brains

[hard nexus]

waaah waaaaah

kills u

[grizzled aspen]

If you join a vc you should yap...

[sullen forge]

Knowing doodooshart they're most likely just going to give more shit that gives toughness

the usual

[spare talon]

Ogryn imo is the most balanced in auric cuz of their shit hitbox and dodges
Makes everything miserable

[sullen forge]

we decided to give ogryn a cleave talent

[paper harness]

Not even that

[sullen forge]

why

fuck you

[grizzled aspen]

I think my discord just like permanently shit the bed on my pc.

[paper harness]

Most annoying players

Kill the class

[spare talon]

You fuck up as ogryn once and you're eaten alive

[hard nexus]

“balanced”
sucks

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pay-respects-press-f-call-of-duty-respect-press-x-gif-22309724

[hard nexus]

lol true

the most toxic players i’ve seen have been ogryns

[spare talon]

"FAT FUCKAH!!!"

[grizzled aspen]

WHY WONT IT START

[sullen forge]

You only prove this point further cause like a bit before this clip I charged through a line of shotgunners and then there was 30 gunners that just instantly deleted me

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iJ9zhJh9U8HUdp2hC/d1337caXzRrI?invite=cr-MSxyZkQsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

You get eaten alive very easily on HISTG if you get into huge groups like that

[paper harness]

99.99% of ogryn players have room temp iqs

[grizzled aspen]

ITS JUST STUCK ON CHECKING FOR UPDATES

FINALLY

Ok I've calmed down now.

[paper harness]

I can justify this statement based on the fact they run ogrynomicon builds out of the box

[tidal berry]

balance is so much ''fun''

[paper harness]

Ogryn is still dramatically power crept

[sullen forge]

remove iron will

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

Both.

Delete iron will.

Or at least make it only apply to ranged attacks.

[rocky nacelle]

im fucking with u noob idc if we never vc, I just like gaming with my friends

one day i'll cringe at your voice but not any time soon

[spare talon]

Ogryn in a specialist spam meta in terms of the enemy is literally actual hell
They are so hard to avoid and so slow to kill on ogryn
You have to rely on your team to kill the majority of them, and when they aren't, you fold

[paper harness]

In fact ogryn is the class I don’t have to think about anything to win 100% of games and top damage by 200k

[sullen forge]

Ogryn is a class

we'll leave it at that

[grizzled aspen]

One of the classes of all time.

[tidal berry]

sure, lets remove until death and twbs while at it

[paper harness]

I have a clip of consecutive overheads and I kept surviving

[grizzled aspen]

Unironically, yes.

I agree with that, too.

[sullen forge]

On Vet?

[spare talon]

Me when a single flamer knocks me back into a corner cuz of my hitbox and I couldn't kill him cuz my kickback wasn't reloaded from the trapper I killed and my rock hit a poxwalker instead of the flamer and the plasma vet is still shooting groaners off to the side

[grizzled aspen]

I HATE safety nets.

[paper harness]

Sure, while we are at it remove all of vets damage boosts

[sullen forge]

Yeah I think thats the most BS thing about it

just remove everything good about Vet

[paper harness]

Because you literally can’t play martyrdom without ud

[sullen forge]

lmao

[median steeple]

remove all damage boosts fr

[rocky nacelle]

ogryn is one of the classes in darktide

[grizzled aspen]

All I heard from this was "give rocks cleave."

[spare talon]

UD is insanely good but I don't think it's broken

[copper hawk]

we should just go back to the 3 talent feat line up from vt2

[median steeple]

Ogs gameplay is just so boring

hmm heaby

heaby

[copper hawk]

i want all of the game removed

[paper harness]

I will hurt you

[spare talon]

PLEASE
Give it cleave on non elites

[copper hawk]

i will gloop u

!

[spare talon]

Make it stop on an elite or specialist

[sullen forge]

Make rocks actually good against trash?

[paper harness]

The karsales is so comically strong and unbalanced I think it’s more broken than the knife

[sullen forge]

what are you fucking insane?

[paper harness]

Two power blessings

[tidal berry]

If vet talents were deleted for each time zealot players have an aneurysm %80 of the talent tree would be gone

[spare talon]

Make rocks not useless when trash is in the fight

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-7166268503332967470

[sullen forge]

Yeah

make it a thing

[paper harness]

You can tell the idiots from the people that can read based on pickaxe blessings

[sullen forge]

delete them right fucking now I want a challenge

[spare talon]

Thrust slow and steady kars

[paper harness]

You have to be delusional if you think that vet isn’t the most overtuned class

[paper harness]

Double power blessings

[bitter anvil]

This is crazy

[spare talon]

Yes ik
But I still see thrust s&s

On kars specifically

[modern lintel]

I quite like the borovian just cause its got a funny moveset

[paper harness]

It’s the same reason the chaxe is super strong

[rocky nacelle]

me watching hahnda across the map get beamed by 10 gunners while trapped and have 3 grenades tossed on top of her (while we have a nurgle blessed chaos spawn)

[sullen forge]

Im waiting till UnL drops to see if Psyker might beat that honor, but Veteran genuinely is stupidly easy to get into

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[sullen forge]

why do you think it attracts the most shitters?

[spare talon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1287161017205526608/s3OnVwp.gif

[rocky nacelle]

im ass

couldnt even true duo 3veg

[paper harness]

Smite and a peril rework fixes psyker

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-yakuza-kiryu-kazuma-kiryu-yakuza5-yakuza5kiryu-gif-20239986

the middle event of comms plex is so aids

woe 10 million gunners

[spare talon]

Gunker hybrid is about to be one of the most insanely strong builds in the game by far

[paper harness]

But you have to massively nerf a shit load of talents on zealot (tree rework) and vet

[modern lintel]

i sort of hate that ill never have to play any other class after vet gets both heavy and dueling swords

[sullen forge]

I didn't even read them cause I have 0 interest in soyker

[tidal berry]

I don't want to hear this from zealot players

[bitter anvil]

I was once a discount zealot as psyker

[spare talon]

I just camp the back end and kill all elites there

[rocky nacelle]

I was a zealot once

[spare talon]

Let the team do the event

[rocky nacelle]

usually I do that

but 3VEG moment

[paper harness]

Plasma

[rocky nacelle]

and its me and hahnda

duoing

so I kill 10 gunners then 5 bombers show up

and a burgle boosted mutie/dog

and then a boss spawns

lmfao

[tidal berry]

I used to respect zealot players malding about vet and then I actually played zealot and lost all respect for some of the shitters crying about how I'm having ''easy mode''

[paper harness]

I dropped a set of rather significant nerfs I want to happen to zealot

[tidal berry]

Haven't touched plasma in ages

[sullen forge]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iJ9BoiKVdqEZlq_Xj/d1337ldNrBdM?invite=cr-MSxvMmosMTA3NDAxNTczLA

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-gif-25116980

[paper harness]

Piss toughness on a 15 second cooldown

[modern lintel]

who was that guy the other day that was absolutely gobsmacked i was using knife on vet @rocky nacelle

[rocky nacelle]

every class has a loadout that turns off the game

[paper harness]

That’s until death every 15 seconds

Same concept applies

[rocky nacelle]

that is the shitty truth of fart tide

every class can turn off the game with a few setups

lmfao

[paper harness]

Both classes have stealth, entire concept needs to be reworked to not function as ai off button

[rocky nacelle]

no idea but was it in pubs

[tidal berry]

yes, vet and psyker has some OP weapons onn top to boot

[bitter anvil]

Infiltration is meh for me use

[modern lintel]

so do you have the ability to talk to any the devs or are all these just at being thrown at the wall

[sullen forge]

Except Vet has access to them more is the issue

[paper harness]

That wasn’t truly thought out

[rocky nacelle]

if dorn knows play testers (I say "know" loosely) maybe something can happen

I dont know the extent of how much he can push/pull

[paper harness]

Nobody has any pull at fs anymore

[rocky nacelle]

oh so its over

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[rocky nacelle]

ggs

[paper harness]

Hence why spawns aren’t priority number 1

[bitter anvil]

What is this zealot chat?

[modern lintel]

time to pull a pipe bomb into their inbox

[lusty oar]

yankin that swedish fore skin

[tidal berry]

wdym by more? Are there are finite amount of smite psykers making the game turn based? Or finite amount of staffs?

[paper harness]

Very nice Fatshark, I would totally like to play these

[paper harness]

Map selection never going to happen either

[cerulean moth]

doomer dork

smh smh smh

[sullen forge]

Plasma, Zarona, PSs, VOCs sheer existence, Knives, Caxes with the easiest BPs, Soon to be DS's

[paper harness]

Insider track

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-mauzymice-metallica-one-darkness-gif-9348915221339037491

[sullen forge]

Veteran is just dining on really easy to work with shit

[tidal berry]

Half of that shit already does or will exist for zealot aswell

[paper harness]

The fact only a few mods even interact in this server anymore kinda tells it all

[sullen forge]

We, literally have a Talent that gives us more Headshot damage

[paper harness]

I was the first person to throw a fit over flamer rending

[sullen forge]

and Rending

just statically

[cerulean moth]

wdym?

[sullen forge]

not even like a condition one

where you dodge and get it no its just

given to you

[cerulean moth]

what are you talking about mean

https://tenor.com/16Y5.gif

[paper harness]

The active mods, in order of activity

[hard nexus]

explode

[ornate bone]

nah that's spartacus

[paper harness]

The woman who’s name I can’t spell, Hank, skeleton, incan

The rest are basically for show lmao

[sullen forge]

Dilara?

[paper harness]

Yeah

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[bitter anvil]

Nerf vet shredder grenade?

[sullen forge]

Honestly yeah

[paper harness]

Also nerf zealot fire

[copper hawk]

nerf everything actually

[bitter anvil]

I knew y’all want masochist stuff

[cerulean moth]

but flamer is WEAK

[copper hawk]

when u load up the game u should just

be given shit rolled wpns

methinkz

[sullen forge]

If i had access to it I would've sent demonpost

[paper harness]

Remove the entire crafting system

[tidal berry]

and you have a version of flamer that doesn't even need ammo which is receiving the same buff .d

[paper harness]

I will (redacted)

[modern lintel]

contemplating driving to sonic just 4 a cherry limeade

[bitter anvil]

Are we going back l4d based game?

[lusty oar]

[DATA EXPUNGED]

[cerulean moth]

lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[copper hawk]

Dorn agrees that we should give RENDING to the FLAMER

DORN said these WORDS

[coarse birch]

no guys flamer sucks thats why its getting rending obv

[copper hawk]

i SWEAR

!

[hard nexus]

i already was upset about it when i read about it sooo i was first

[cerulean moth]

what if these buffs are for the game becoming harder

[paper harness]

Article 15 time for you

[rocky nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jozqnG_32i0

everyone explodfe

[copper hawk]

ur gonna get chummed

[paper harness]

That also will never happen

[sullen forge]

I think I soon followed after reading the rending on both flames

like I instantly knew what that meant

[copper hawk]

a random femboy joins ur vc and tells u 2 go to sleep all the time

and that ur stinky

u dont scare me

[paper harness]

They removed horde timers with secrets

[copper hawk]

stinky sleepy boy

[sullen forge]

and i am NOT looking forward to Flamer Zealots and Purg Soykers using Rending Flames

[coarse birch]

simply block all of them

[modern lintel]

literally you wtf

[lusty oar]

kill them irl

[sullen forge]

true

[paper harness]

You can’t block them on steam

[grizzled aspen]

It will be quite hilarious to see the fire suddenly be cut off when they start shooting because you know it'll only be crutchers using it.

[spare talon]

It's going to be so fun
And broken
Funly broken and brokenly fun

[paper harness]

Me and a friend tested it, you still matchmake with steam blocked players

[coarse birch]

oh rip

[sullen forge]

Fucking Cole im calling it right now

[coarse birch]

guess i got lucky

[sullen forge]

Day 1

[sullen forge]

UnL

[spare talon]

20% rending and 10% more above 75% peril

[bitter anvil]

@sullen forge are you like vet main?

[spare talon]

What the fuck fatshark

[sullen forge]

yes but I understand my class is braindead

hence why im for nerfs

[paper harness]

Warp rider

[sullen forge]

I've literally been wanting a VOC nerf for ages

[bitter anvil]

You want experience the pain through nerf

Understandable

[spare talon]

Yeah and all the conditionals
MM too

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/opinions-sister-so-fake-so-fake-my-enemy-my-enemy-opinions-sister-so-fake-my-enemy-gif-24738842

[modern lintel]

you nerf voc instead well have an even bigger plague of exe stance users that dont believe in melee

[sullen forge]

You will see a Flamer rending flames + DS Zealot

im calling it

betting money even

[spare talon]

Like yes I think 30% rending on psyker infinite flamer is fucking busted but cmon lemme have some fun with it man

[paper harness]

The exec stance buff is good

[spare talon]

I already really like the purg staff

[paper harness]

Anyone who says otherwise should uninstall the game

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[hard nexus]

what melee do u run with purg

[hard nexus]

what’s the buff

[rocky nacelle]

then use it

[hard nexus]

relentless being innate

[modern lintel]

it is but like 9/10 ppl who use it not

[bitter anvil]

I like weapon

[sullen forge]

Relentless now being a base kit

[hard nexus]

anything else?

[sullen forge]

isntead of eating a node

cause fuck you

[cerulean moth]

its happening

[sullen forge]

Relentless is refresh on kill

[bitter anvil]

For exe stance

[hard nexus]

that’s it right

[paper harness]

Nothing FS has done this year has shown a single penny in profit

[sullen forge]

yes

[spare talon]

Currently ds4
Back during my psyker main phase during feats era I used deimos, same purpose, single target melee for both that can deal with armor

[sullen forge]

and right now its a node upgrade

[hard nexus]

ok i was just wondering

[hard nexus]

yah ik

[sullen forge]

it literally absorbs a talent point

[tidal berry]

but not being able to weapon swap in a melee centric game adds ''depth'' 😔

[hard nexus]

fair

[coarse birch]

yeah EXE stance was weirdly expensive to run

[hard nexus]

was ds4 always as good as it is now, or was there some buffs

[sullen forge]

@paper harness Dead serious you should make a Bingo Sheet and fill it out for "What we will see Day 1 on UnL"

[hard nexus]

i do not rember

[paper harness]

He got clowned on so hard in telos discord

[coarse birch]

no

it used to be really mid

[bitter anvil]

I run exe stance with agripinna revolver

[coarse birch]

all of the duelling swords were

rending got buffed and so did the numbers on DS4

[modern lintel]

the group finder thing is almost guaranteed to be broken

[hard nexus]

who? someone saying you shouldn’t be allowed to swap while maintaining exec stance?

[paper harness]

Ds4 only needs thrust to one shot crushers

[paper harness]

Yeah

Thrust precog, duelist

[hard nexus]

i think u should be able to swap, and while it’s active, increase weapon swap speed

[paper harness]

Totally balanced!!!!!

[coarse birch]

back in the day psykers only good melee was combat axe or deimos/illisi

[sullen forge]

Purg/Flamer with Rending

Non Psyker DS user

Falling out of the map

Failing the map

[coarse birch]

and that was after those were added

[sullen forge]

lets see what else

[spare talon]

This thing needed rending, totally, for sure, most definitely

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1286621411800121374/Darktide_replay_2024.09.20-04.25_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66f08d50&is=66ef3bd0&hm=e4a117cd93163b3404e87f68b7af017f3dce81288ec6af5516c07f132bb128d4&

[hard nexus]

yeah i saw that clip earlier, peak

actually good smite user

[cerulean moth]

damn people be DOOOMING

smh

[coarse birch]

before tools of war it was literally antax lol

[hard nexus]

ah

i didn’t play psyker much back then

[bitter anvil]

Nerfmaxxing are masochist

[cerulean moth]

THAST RIGHT

BUFF THE GAME

[sullen forge]

no

[coarse birch]

no

nobody wants damage sponge disablers

[rocky nacelle]

this is why you belong in general

[coarse birch]

just nerf us lol

[rocky nacelle]

chat

just yappin

[cerulean moth]

BUFF THGE GAME

[coarse birch]

have fun making a game hard when rashad exists

[sullen forge]

More like BM

but I get what you mean

[coarse birch]

or void or plasma or or or or

[cerulean moth]

its MY power fantasy

[coarse birch]

yeah fair

[rocky nacelle]

play malice

theres your power fantasy

[coarse birch]

^

[spare talon]

How potent would Rashad be if bm dropped to 3 or 2

[bitter anvil]

Malice when I queue level 20 incompetent

[coarse birch]

it would still be p good

[ornate bone]

use fleshtearer lacerate knife, very fun

[coarse birch]

cause you get really good ST and attack speed good mobility

just less generalist

by a bit

[modern lintel]

my grand idea give auto pistol flesh tearer

[rocky nacelle]

give every gun lethal proximity

[bitter anvil]

That’s hollow point

[coarse birch]

give AP a crit blessing 😭

[sullen forge]

give every gun Brutal Momentum

[frozen glen]

and adms and swing patterns and

[rocky nacelle]

so make every gun zarona?

[sullen forge]

TRUE

[coarse birch]

2.0 unyielding ADM

also hi redverse long time no see

[sullen forge]

Actually god now thats a nightmare hellscape that I wish not even on my worst enemy

shit would be so fucking boring

[hard nexus]

a sniper weapon with BM would be really cool

[frozen glen]

chat isnt the same without the ogs

[modern lintel]

bolt pistol and fan revolver getting cleave is still big

[coarse birch]

its called zarona

[paper harness]

That’s called zarona

Oh

[frozen glen]

now its just epic coal

[hard nexus]

shhhh

[sullen forge]

Nerf that fucking thing into the ground already

god

please

[coarse birch]

yeah i get what you mean, i think they may come back for update

[hard nexus]

give me a las sniper that pierces on one shot

[coarse birch]

most of them are still in the server

[hard nexus]

oh hi red

also real

i mean we have, cica, me, dorn, cole, azreal

[frozen glen]

hello cap

[hard nexus]

psycho pops in every now and again

u remembered me

!!!

even after the rebrand

[frozen glen]

im old

[hard nexus]

anti dementia

[coarse birch]

i think zarona still gives you a lotf for its suppression and cleave + how quick it is

[hard nexus]

lotf?

[coarse birch]

vet def makes it the dumbest but it still feels really gross on like psyker

[spare talon]

I may be in the minority here but I unironically play with si shovel better than with rashad

[sullen forge]

and it also just fucking deletes on Zealot as well

[spare talon]

Despite being the same light moveset

[paper harness]

Gun psyker needed a buff guys!!!!

[coarse birch]

me when 3 bullet crit string high close ADMs good DPS

[paper harness]

Christ

[hard nexus]

i think zarona should have its armor damage reduced significantly, and it should be in a similar niche to throwing knives, a precision, quick, special killer

[spare talon]

4% quell on non warp crit
BALANCE!!!!!!

[sullen forge]

CIAG fucking deleting bosses in seconds

fml bro

Exe stance but better

lmao

[coarse birch]

man

[coarse birch]

yeah i agree, hand cannon isnt helping

[paper harness]

Nerfs IJ again

[hard nexus]

hand cannon should be removed or reduced to like, 20%

[sullen forge]

Zealot players watching everyone around them get buffed

[paper harness]

I know why that was changed

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/snake-mgsv-venomsnake-bigboss-big-gif-4625726715949463203

[grizzled aspen]

PREACH

[hard nexus]

WHYYY DOES VET HAVE THE BEST MELEE?????

also fair

that’d be a good nerf

[coarse birch]

brittle would be something yeah

[sullen forge]

Which one exactly

[copper hawk]

give zealot the rending

[sullen forge]

LMAO

[copper hawk]

keep the brittleness for vet

[sullen forge]

Cause Vet just has way too many good options

[visual stream]

The big problem with this is it reduces the already super duper limited amount of anti-armor ranged weapons

[copper hawk]

so u can do ur sill lasgun carapace builds

[grizzled aspen]

Brittleness is a good idea but the status effect needs to be better.

[hard nexus]

psword, rashad, and just melee damage in general

[visual stream]

I would like more ranged options whose specialty is anti-armor or anti-boss tbh

[grizzled aspen]

Like 2 seconds of brittleness and then it all just disappears fucking sucks!

[bitter anvil]

I like onslaught use for my high rof weapon like VId and Graia Brauto

Funny

[coarse birch]

zealot does need one or two more anti armor guns but probably not much more since he has anti armor melee

for the sake of variety

[sullen forge]

Melee focused Veteran is based but holy shit its depressing how PS and Rashad

just

turns the game off

[rocky nacelle]

melta

[visual stream]

Yeah like one or two more was the sweet spot that I was thinking

[copper hawk]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1016352052928057477/1287227741535469609/image.png?ex=66f0c7c1&is=66ef7641&hm=10d15041351761434350e960f5665f55edc0df054e936cb61f7b050dee98f9d1&

[hard nexus]

which is something i also really don’t like, if your melee can’t kill carapace, you will struggle so hard

i think other weapons should deal more carapace damage (agri slug shotgun, agri IAG should have a decent ADM against carapace, a couple others that don’t come to mind)

[cerulean moth]

BITCH

PUT ME IN THERE

[sullen forge]

👆

[hard nexus]

i don’t remember what ur name was back then

[cerulean moth]

its always been thus bruh

https://tenor.com/t3or.gif

[coarse birch]

yeah i think hes had that name as long as i remember

[grizzled aspen]

This, but also MAKE GUN ZEALOUT REAL.

[visual stream]

Yeah tbh

[cerulean moth]

GUN ZEALOT IS REAAAAAAAAAAL

[hard nexus]

exactly my complaint, having a melee vet is cool just, too much

[coarse birch]

yeah the entire middle middle of zealot tree needs work

[sullen forge]

Tree Rework in which is most likely going to cause Dorn to go nuclear

lmao

[grizzled aspen]

MAKE GUN ZEALOUT HAVE ACTUAL TALENTS THAT ARENT SPREAD ACROSS THE ENTIRE FUCKING TREE

[coarse birch]

its just SoC there

which is dumb

[grizzled aspen]

DANCE OF DEATH SHOULD NOT BE ON THE RIGHT

[coarse birch]

DOD is cool at least

[grizzled aspen]

MOVE SAINTED GUNSLINGER FURTHER UP

[paper harness]

Entire tree needs to be rebuilt

[grizzled aspen]

ALSO MOVE RESTORING FAITH OVER BY BLEED FOR THE EMPEROR

[hard nexus]

also evis mk2 should deal more carapace damage on revs

[sullen forge]

Notice its not really all the weapons its more a combo of like some talents and specific good melee's that just make Veteran

crayon muncher

[bitter anvil]

What is this chat right here?

[coarse birch]

iirc the sweep is better into it than the strikdown i may be thinking of something else

[grizzled aspen]

Listen guys just put me in charge of fixing zealouts tree trust me I'll fix it.

[sullen forge]

You know damn well as I do its going to be nothing but buffs

[hard nexus]

the strike down does about 100 more damage into carapace than the h1

[sullen forge]

I pray it wont

[coarse birch]

ah ok maybe i am thinking of something else

still sad though

[sullen forge]

but I highly doubt it with how they're reworking trees

[paper harness]

I’ll confine myself to playing talentless

At that point

[hard nexus]

yeah, standing there for the whole rev needs a larger reward than just like, 900 carapace damage

[sullen forge]

Penance

truly remarkable

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/basil-omori-basil-spin-basilspinfast-gif-27481305

[sullen forge]

this genuinely screams "what flavor of crayon do you like" cause I recall thats without rending strikes

[bitter anvil]

Aye my favorite

[coarse birch]

i remember the shitstorm this started day 1

[bitter anvil]

Exe stance and agrip revolver

[hard nexus]

this genuinely might be more damage than the next patch thunder hammer

[bitter anvil]

Did thunder hammer get nerf next patch?

[sullen forge]

Skill Recommended but not required

proves vet needs nerfs lmao

[hard nexus]

nerf to unyielding damage by about 40%, but buffs otherwise

[cerulean moth]

I know how we can fix this

give marty rending

every stack

[bitter anvil]

Gale should be happy with that

[cerulean moth]

4%

[hard nexus]

nerf zealot !

[rocky nacelle]

@modern lintel https://open.spotify.com/track/4rT8K3XXqmXcUURxqN7P1m?si=2c84f368dd1c4c92

niche jrock band with 10k listeners

my beloved

[bitter anvil]

Now it can’t one shot monstro then

[rocky nacelle]

ironhelm should get sunder

[hard nexus]

troooo

[rocky nacelle]

yea the people shitting themselves over TH unyielding

are funny

they're acting like its going to do literally nothing

[hard nexus]

bosses either need to get buffed, or a whole nerf to player unyielding damage needs to happen

[rocky nacelle]

now

[hard nexus]

either one

[paper harness]

My thunder hammer racism will continue

[hard nexus]

i will use thunder hammer

[paper harness]

Bosses need a rework

[sullen forge]

continue?

[hard nexus]

with glee

[sullen forge]

you mean grow?

lmao

[rocky nacelle]

dorn just cant be pleased

ignore him

[hard nexus]

true

[paper harness]

Too hard

[hard nexus]

wasn’t old spawn like extremely fast

[paper harness]

[hard nexus]

i don’t really remember old spawn

peak

[paper harness]

Light weapons had domination

[sullen forge]

It basically gave you 0 breathing room

if it was focusing you

[paper harness]

Based and kino pilled

[sullen forge]

it WOULD kill you if you had a heavy weapon

[paper harness]

I want scab captains in missions

[sullen forge]

^

🗣️

Shit would be so good

[hard nexus]

i want captains to be harder, they’re too easy rn

they’re the easiest part of a mission

[tidal berry]

I kinda get his point but exe needed change, badly

[lusty oar]

LET US HEAR THE MUSIC DAMN IT

[paper harness]

Never change

^

[hard nexus]

how

i’ve solod a captain before

wasn’t too bad

[paper harness]

Duos and solos they are such a bitch

[rocky nacelle]

I can imagine

you should say more tedious then?

I suppose

[hard nexus]

i can get that

[paper harness]

Becomes much harder when there’s a plague ogryn and a bon

[hard nexus]

me having to solo a blessed cspawn and a burgle in a 3veg

despair

[paper harness]

Train level is the worse map, but better end

[modern lintel]

can the captain be blessed

[hard nexus]

yeah fair, bleed supremacy

[paper harness]

No

[rocky nacelle]

I think ive seen a nurgle blessed captain

nvm then

[paper harness]

Bon can be

[rocky nacelle]

make captains nurgle buffed

[hard nexus]

i hate burgles

remove burgles

[sullen forge]

the reason why they are harder is cause well Captains tend to enjoy putting you into a block my attacks or im going to push you away from me type of fucking fight so you're more so just slowly chipping them if its solo or Duo

I say this cause I actually had to solo a T.Cap cause my team refused to fight him

[hard nexus]

the thing i hate about them is the knockback from shield breaking

other than that

i think they need an attack speed buff

[sullen forge]

Voidshield extreme Knockback is a bit nutty at times

[paper harness]

It took me 20 mins of kiting to be able to break the shield each time the last true solo I did

https://tenor.com/view/ups-oops-gif-25712345

[modern lintel]

inb4 they make us fight rhinda a third time on the new train map as a new and never b4 seen modifer

[hard nexus]

i did it last night it was really easy

[rocky nacelle]

I said this idea like 3 days ago

[hard nexus]

i just forgot to record it

[rocky nacelle]

but rinda will show up on the train level at the finale

[hard nexus]

didn’t get hit once

[rocky nacelle]

and be like RE2

[hard nexus]

easiest game beer

ever

[rocky nacelle]

just a big ass nurgle monster

[paper harness]

Meow you got damage carried by Saldar

[hard nexus]

we actually stayed similar in damage that match

he out did me

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/resident-evil-resident-evil-2-resident-evil-2-remake-g-birkin-william-birkin-gif-15891779539242212039

[hard nexus]

but i wasn’t too far behind

[rocky nacelle]

rinda on the train level

this would be peak

[paper harness]

And he isn’t a damage player

[hard nexus]

ok?

i know i’m not better than him

i just wasn’t dead weight

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-emoji-avalon-play-avalon-gif-24241051

[hard nexus]

(i haven’t solod twins)

[sullen forge]

ermmm... stats say otherwise...

[hard nexus]

(i was being a shitter)

[paper harness]

Easiest solo twins was voc dclaw

[rocky nacelle]

nothing new

[hard nexus]

erm coherency mogged u suck

[rocky nacelle]

@modern lintel

rinda needs to be like this

at the end of the train mission

fat shark I beg

dont let rinda be dogshit boring

and no potential for a nurgle monster

[sullen forge]

Shitshart

[paper harness]

Rinda is the problem for me when I do solo runs

[hard nexus]

champion of nurgle rinda would be pawesome

[rocky nacelle]

i been sayin this since the event

it would be so peak

[modern lintel]

have her merge w her brother as a nurgle monster

[paper harness]

I can just use any high mobility weapon to hit mines

[sullen forge]

She enjoys pushing people into mines

so im not surprised she's the issue

[rocky nacelle]

when I see rinda spartan kick my soyker into 5 ass gas mines

[cerulean moth]

FS making good bossfihts

[paper harness]

Parry go brr

[cerulean moth]

we shall seeee

[sullen forge]

2 HP remain

max corruption

[rocky nacelle]

(no hp remains)

[sullen forge]

lmao

[rocky nacelle]

insta death

[sullen forge]

the ass blast mines that just

fucking delete your HP bar

[paper harness]

Yeah

[rocky nacelle]

masochism

[bitter anvil]

True

[paper harness]

She’s also the only fun part of it

[rocky nacelle]

true soloing is masochism incarnate anyway (but im no better I want to duo 3VEGs)

[sullen forge]

Rodin running away from you like a bitch

or kicking you

to keep laying mines or shooting you