zealot-class

[placid fiber]

I mean... this run has the artifact of glass so I am actually a sneeze away from death lol

and I'm defaultmando xD

[naive stirrup]

grenade mando goes hard

[spare talon]

No it doesnt

[naive stirrup]

i still hate rex

[placid fiber]

This change to phase round(from riskymod) makes me want to take it more, even when I'm not doing defaultmando runs

[naive stirrup]

it do if you know how to bounce them

[spare talon]

I like forced stuns and dps in the same ability

Default ror2 the shotgun secondary is just flat out better it's so dumb

[naive stirrup]

on today's episode of "what obscure tech do you need to know to make this thing work"
macro grenade bouncing for mando, band proc, decent aoe

[placid fiber]

I've mained mando for over 3k hours... and all I can say is: suppressive fire is much more consistent and vibes better with me 100% of the time... even with the ancient scepter upgrade to the grenades (which makes you throw 8 nades that do 1/2 damage)

[tidal berry]

ror2 has some of the goofiest balancing for abilities n stuff

[spare talon]

Do you want 400 damage in one shot
Or 800 damage each in 2

[naive stirrup]

oh i dont use any upgrades. only mods i have are for QoL, fixing bugs and post-teleporter faster recycler useage (with another mod to balance it)

[spare talon]

I don't remember exact numbers but it's fucking dumb how much better it id

[placid fiber]

The only advantage to phase round is that you can proc bands with it, if you hit more than 1 enemy with it... otherwise phase blast is the ultimate upgrade to it

[naive stirrup]

eclipse 8 beat my ass for a while. made me hate rex even more LOL

i have to regrind them for seeker, chef and false son now

[paper harness]

Die

[spare talon]

Band this, band that
How about you band together with some bitches

[naive stirrup]

i don't think i will

bands being the objective best item in the game:

[placid fiber]

I've never felt the desire to do eclipse, ever. It doesn't look fun to me, and that is being compared to what I am doing now which is inferno in my modded ror2... which I do find fun...

[paper harness]

It is no longer a choice

[spare talon]

I need to get this
I need an evil version of

[placid fiber]

I was just stating the 1 advantage phase round can have, compared to phase blast. I don't EVER recommend using it instead of phase blast

[drifting wolf]

clover

[naive stirrup]

tis very fun, makes you learn how to play the game in a different way, stop depending on healing items, get REALLY good at dodging attacks, target prioritization, item macro based on what printers you have/if you have a scrapper

[placid fiber]

I don't want to be forced to fight Mithrix. Honestly I just play the run until I get so powerful that the run gets boring... then I end it and start a new one.

[naive stirrup]

rarely see it
bands are a guaranteed drop on aquaduct

(if you know how to roll pots)

[spare talon]

Yeah ik
I just personally think that fundamentally basing your character judgements on an item that may not even drop is dumb, esp when you are likely to have a method to proc it via another item anyway

[naive stirrup]

i've been playing a modded mithrix lately, umbral, very fun

[placid fiber]

Assuming you either a: have luck with the pots, or b: have the effigy of grief(for mando specifically)

[naive stirrup]

not even luck, pot rolling is a skill

or at least was

they're almost too easy to roll now

false son has issue though, weird hitbox

[drifting wolf]

dnc the question was bestest item not easiest/most consistent bestest item to obtain

[placid fiber]

It is, until an enemy kills the pots or you accidentally shoot them lol

[naive stirrup]

this is why stage start, find the buttons, see which has a pot closer, avoid that area until TP is done

i've never had that issue

[placid fiber]

I mean I'm all for full looting stages, but, I don't consider the guaranteed bands as guaranteed, since bs can happen

That's how I ror... I full loot every stage lol

[naive stirrup]

i dont even have 300 hours in ror2 and i have all the achievements. chat am i cooked?

[drifting wolf]

it's free during an engineer run with stationary turrets

but that means you have to play engineer

[naive stirrup]

full looting every stage efficiently is always better than sticking to a timer rule

you ALWAYS outscale enemies by full looting

[placid fiber]

I mean I have all the achievements as well lol, but, I also had like... 20 less hours before the dlc came out

[spare talon]

12 reflection antlers

[naive stirrup]

eh

[placid fiber]

Actually it's more that sticking a timer rule just... you outscale the enemies so quickly... it's boring...

I want a bit of a stuggle

[naive stirrup]

FUCK no

time means NOTHING in risk of rain 2 unless you actually spent an hour per stage

[drifting wolf]

i dont have all achievements because i don't really bother with artificer, the trials, and have made an oath to never play mercenary

[placid fiber]

I found that when I try to only spend 5 minutes per stage... it's so fucking easy... it's boring

[naive stirrup]

that hurts to read

[placid fiber]

I'm used to 10+ minutes before stage 2 lol

[hushed knoll]

WTF

[naive stirrup]

enemies outscale you faster than ever 5 minutes per stage

[hushed knoll]

I KNEW IT

[spare talon]

Efficiently looting a stage always grinds to a halt when the game doesn't spawn enemies for a minute 30 straight

[naive stirrup]

literally

hang on

[placid fiber]

It might be that I just have more experience ror2ing as mando... so I need the extra scaled enemies to give me that push to play better...

[naive stirrup]

on monsoon, maybe that works

[placid fiber]

I've been mando maining since... ~50-100 hours into my ror2 playtime... that means I've been maining mando for a solid 3200 hours lol

[naive stirrup]

and you don't get burnt out?

[placid fiber]

My secret is: as soon as it starts getting boring I just end the run and start a new one

Also half of the playtime was my modded ror2

Like... let me put it to you this way... I had to set inferno's base bonus difficulty scaling, earlier, to +150%... when using my normal vanilla mando loadout... and I still was killing the enemies without too vast of an amount of difficulty

And I am a bit rusty, rn

[drifting wolf]

the one true commando

[placid fiber]

I was able to do defaultmando before I started adding anything more than just the random stages artifact, for any real game changes

[paper harness]

It’s one of my favourite maps

Alongside golden grin, big bank and Hoxton white Christmas

[naive stirrup]

those are decent, fuck shadow raid

[placid fiber]

I've legit become addicted to getting a light flux pauldron and purity asap in my mando runs for fun

[paper harness]

Shadow raid is so easy tho

[frosty herald]

I should get all pd2 dlcs

[naive stirrup]

default as in like, vanilla abilities or actually default with phase round, dive and suppressive?

cuz round and dive are ass

[paper harness]

I see an uptick in pd3 players, I must look at YouTube to see why

[placid fiber]

defaultmando as in the base double tap, phase round, tactical dive, and suppressive fire

This was before the patch that made the dlc issues more fixed

[frosty herald]

Mio got booted and new dlc dropped

[paper harness]

For cheap pls

Don’t give them real money

[naive stirrup]

TheGrouse has been playing it a lot, working with starbreeze, testing shit and helping them out and all that

[naive stirrup]

i have them all

[placid fiber]

I killed stage 1(random stages artifact gave me stage 1 siren's call) awu while I was getting hounded by larva and while it was leveling up while I was fighting it lol

[frosty herald]

I wont lol

[paper harness]

It will take a lot more than one dude to fix it

[placid fiber]

with defaultmando

[naive stirrup]

need to eventually take the time and do them all DSOD

[frosty herald]

Well see how pd3 fares without that asswipe being the director

[naive stirrup]

it's been getting better

new update droped yesterday for it

[frosty herald]

Almir and andreas are the new ones

[naive stirrup]

almir listo is back baby

all my homies love almir

[placid fiber]

I was doing vanilla runs(before the dlc) with glass, sacrifice, swarms, evolution, and metamorphosis on monsoon both with and without using lunars lol

[paper harness]

Perhaps I should ask for my playtest access back

[placid fiber]

My level of mando skill is basically probably akin to Dorn's or Cole's skill in darktide lol

[naive stirrup]

this all released yesterday

[paper harness]

been a long time since I worked on pd2

[naive stirrup]

im of the mind that lunars are a crutch
just go play one E8 run and see what happens, im curious now if inferno prepped you at all for that

[spare talon]

Jonkler face

[placid fiber]

If you call halved attack speed and -1 luck at the very start of a run a crutch then you're cooked, because even the ror2 discord people are bewildered by my choice of those

[spare talon]

Transcendence in eclipse

[naive stirrup]

i will never
ever
understand why anyone would pick those

[naive stirrup]

literally just voids 2 modifiers LOL

[placid fiber]

Because I like early flight :3

it makes me able to get to any newt altar with tactical slide >.>

[naive stirrup]

bf convinced me to reinstall pd2 and it's like i slipped into a relapse

[placid fiber]

Now if you said my choice of maybe just taking purity(if I did) for my lunar on mando was a crutch, I would agree with you on that. Light flux makes it much less of a crush even tho it gives it the minimum cooldown(same for slide)

[naive stirrup]

none of my old skill is there anymore. tried to run murky station and got diffed by the drones

[placid fiber]

Cause early 1s cd phase blast is... very powerful, in the hands of a mando main lol

[frosty herald]

Payday 2 stealth is so ass

[naive stirrup]

purity i just see as a stupid item to take. you're making an entire build not work and it happens to be THE strongest build in the game

[frosty herald]

And i just remembered why i didnt want to play payday 2 anymore

[naive stirrup]

proc chain me beloved

[frosty herald]

Im not wating for rng to make me do death sentence overdrill

[placid fiber]

I have over 3k fucking hours of maining mando, idc about getting amazing proc builds anymore... I want to have fun, and idc if I can't proc some items until maybe stage 20 lol

[naive stirrup]

you never HAVE to do overdrill

[naive stirrup]

if you want to have fun PLAY A DIFFERENT FUCKING SURVIVER

[frosty herald]

Any type of death sentence mission is pure ass

[placid fiber]

but I LIKE PLAYING MANDO lol

Even with so much time maining him

[frosty herald]

And i cant get the last puzzle piece from fbi stealth

[naive stirrup]

for secret?

or what

[frosty herald]

Yuppers

[naive stirrup]

ah

yeah i just got a mod to help with that, i'd be willing to run it again tbh i like running the secret

overkill or mayham though fuck DS

shadow cloakers are no joke

[placid fiber]

Sure I could play any survivor I wanted... but mando is my go-to survivor that I know I will always have fun playing(until I get too op, which then I just end the run and start a new one)

My 2nd favorite survivor is a modded one, starstorm 2's executioner(which I also could play on inferno, just not quite as well as I could do with mando)

[naive stirrup]

that is THE reason why you're getting bored, not enjoying proc chains, taking really stupid items etc, it's burn out and you hit that a long time ago but just, kept going idk

[placid fiber]

Proc chains aren't really that fun to me... they can just melt all enemies... no enemies to fight = no difficulty to overcome = boring = not fun for me

[placid fiber]

I'm a adhd crackhead... I need that dopamine fix of going against a challenge and overcoming it. >.<'

[naive stirrup]

speaking of burn out @paper harness 3700 hours on darktide is going to take a toll on you my boy

i get the game is fun but what the fuck

[rotund shoal]

where is this from

[modern lintel]

car

[placid fiber]

Oh and, btw, ~98% of my ror2 time is solo play lol

[naive stirrup]

most people only have solo time

multiplayer is kind of ass

[placid fiber]

Tru

Honestly, darktide just confirms what I don't want: I don't want useless teammates/thieves...

It's more fun to play alone than to play with that... at least in ror2

In darktide... you just have to try to carry them...

[modern lintel]

also darktide going off gamepass 'soon'

[naive stirrup]

a thing i can do...when the psyker doesn't barrel me off the fucking map

not racism against psykers, not this time, it's just always a psyker

[placid fiber]

Don't forget the ogryn trying to "help" you melee the horde...

[naive stirrup]

eh

if they're running a melee build they need to melee the horde as much as a zealot does

[placid fiber]

Honestly ogryns are the main ones that trigger barrels near me from their melee... mostly due to the radius of some of their melee attacks

[paper harness]

Boykisser

[placid fiber]

Otherwise it's about equal, imo, for ranged attacks triggering barrels between the 4 classes near me...

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/boykisser-hostage-gif-13585604117065688006

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/dogs-explosion-wow-gif-5006045

[placid fiber]

Hey, my 1 problem which is that I can only use the surge staff effectively(out of all staves) does bring 1 benefit if I am psykering with you: the zap doesn't target barrels(as far as I know)

[hard nexus]

m1

[placid fiber]

I don't use the m1 on the surge staff...

[hard nexus]

that’s why u only get 300k damage in aurics lil bro

[placid fiber]

Unless I'm trying to hit something outside of the range of it...

[hard nexus]

stay out of my aurics

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-my-reaction-to-that-information-angry-reaction-wolf-reaction-gif-27080186

[placid fiber]

I don't do aurics, with randos, since I don't find it fun having to try to carry all of them myself when they are useless lol

[hard nexus]

that’s why u can’t carry aurics lil bro

[naive stirrup]

i like the praise i get when i just refuse to fucking die while alone during a wave

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-angry-scare-gif-5183071

[paper harness]

Nade moment

[hard nexus]

nobody ever gives me any praise no matter how well i do

[hard nexus]

true

[placid fiber]

The main reason I wouldn't be able to is cuz I'm rusty. I've clutched hi 5 shock before. :/

[naive stirrup]

rip

[hard nexus]

i had a match where i clutched 4 times in train yard final event of grabbing the ammo

in a maelstrom

[naive stirrup]

fucking

[hard nexus]

3veg maelstrom

[naive stirrup]

god damn

[placid fiber]

that was with my clutch build which had a heavy sword and brauto(and shroudfield)

[modern lintel]

throwing knife sniper fail

[hard nexus]

and not a single “nice”

[hard nexus]

shut the FUCK UP

u died before me there

so

ur opinion is entirely irrelevant

stinker

[misty nova]

You should, top tier suppression value

[hard nexus]

no u should use void and shoot at their feet

because the explosion is really good at suppressing

[misty nova]

[placid fiber]

If I want to do good as psyker my best options are: Surge Staff or a Gun, for my ranged weapon, lol

[hard nexus]

poor guy exploded

[placid fiber]

Honestly... I know the voidstrike is very powerful, but, I don't like it...

[naive stirrup]

me trying to stab a heretic in the face with an axe and the psyker trauma charges my feet thinking he helped

[ornate bone]

Cole about to headshot parry the rager when I telepathically tell his teammate it's better if he bodyshots it twenty times on the ground

[placid fiber]

idc if it is heresy or not, but, having to solo clutch as the vet with a shovel while 4/5 shotgunners, 3-4 ragers, and 2 gunners(and a horde) are on you when your career is on cd and your revolver is empty... that's still rough

[frosty herald]

Emperor no diffs

[hard nexus]

i’m listening to femtanyl right now lmfao

[hard nexus]

real

[placid fiber]

Knify got surprise trappered while a horde was around him that run... and the other 2 were bots that were tied up... which happened at the end event of the mission

[modern lintel]

real

[hard nexus]

have y seen the guy im referencing

he comes around every here and there

[naive stirrup]

may have

[placid fiber]

but man did I shovel tf out of those shotgunners before dodging away(and getting revolver ammo from weapon specialist) and then shooting the ragers :/

[hard nexus]

he’s the one that thinks rashad is balanced, knife isn’t that OP, the void stuff i mentioned

something else i can’t think of

[naive stirrup]

ah

not seen em

heard of em though

[hard nexus]

yarp

[placid fiber]

Man... talking about shoveling the enemies is, somehow, making me want to go play my vet some more in Darktide...

[modern lintel]

cole tried to put me onto reg mk of shovel earlier but it absolutely stinks unless you use hard weapon spec side w it

[frosty herald]

Trauma at other player's feet is annoying

[paper harness]

Even without it is pretty kino

[naive stirrup]

just because the horde is around me doesn't mean i need help. i have an AXE with bromentum just kill the gunners ill be fine

[hard nexus]

which sapper shovel should i try

[paper harness]

Standard

[modern lintel]

it rlly threw me off when i realized the poke was not a push attk and was the alt

[paper harness]

No dumb gimmicks

[hard nexus]

no i’ve used the standard long enough

[paper harness]

Makes entertaining thunk

[hard nexus]

i wanna try one of the sappers but i haven’t yet

[placid fiber]

I've never been a fan of the conflagration staff in vt2... so the trauma staff feels bleh to me... it's just a non-fire version of the conflagration staff from vt2...

that does way better damage, I'll admit...

[modern lintel]

the mk7 is the better 1 i think its the blu 1

[hard nexus]

is that the overhead flipped heavy or the diagonal flipped heavy

[modern lintel]

overhead i think

maybe im wrong

also zealot should get shovel

[placid fiber]

Honestly I've been using the mk3 version of the newer shovels and it's been working very well with my playstyle in general.

[hard nexus]

agreed

vet has enough weapons

[naive stirrup]

im making crit antax work

[placid fiber]

Shh, don't give Dorn any ideas... or Dorn will do something like... do a, uh... double impact crit crucis build...

[naive stirrup]

he's already seen my antax

running shred and bromentum

[placid fiber]

I'm mostly joking lol

[naive stirrup]

piety

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-mac-smh-gif-27571314

[misty nova]

Figured

[placid fiber]

So what you are doing, basically, with your rashad... is sort of like using thrust + some non-headtaker/slaughterer 2nd blessing on a thammer...?

[misty nova]

Once bromentum gets nerfed you should get Decapitator

[paper harness]

It will never be nerfed

[modern lintel]

i think i have bromentum and decap on mine for vet

[placid fiber]

Come on, Dorn, you saw what they did to the autopistol... what makes you think Fatshark has enough awareness to not do that to the rashad/antax?

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-sad-sad-gosling-blade-runner-snow-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-sad-gif-10329809086636681181

[placid fiber]

Like that nerf was ages ago... and they've done nothing to rectify where they pushed the autopistol into(as far as ranged weapons go)...

Even if they put pinning fire to the old amounts(or even half the amount)... I don't think it would do as much, with how poor it is in general(especially after enemy health changes)

[hard nexus]

it would turn it into a lead flamer basically

it’d still be pretty strong

[ripe heron]

Autopistol is fine.

[naive stirrup]

my game just crashed the second a burster spawned

[hard nexus]

strong disagree

[naive stirrup]

taking this as a sign

[placid fiber]

I mean vs maniacs/unarmored maybe... but flak? lolno

[paper harness]

Autopistol is strong enough for the level of spawns in events

[hard nexus]

auto pistol is just a worse version of brautos

[paper harness]

It has just been power crept severely

[rotund shoal]

instant switch

[placid fiber]

cough maybe on the full ranged vet build COUGH HACK COUGH

[hard nexus]

really not that big of a deal compared to how fast brautos come out

[paper harness]

High stagger, high specialist sniping

[rotund shoal]

yeah brautos are better

i just love instant switch

[paper harness]

Kinda does what it should

Anyway

[placid fiber]

Like... it is weak enough against flak that I usually just dodge and melee scab ragers with my rashad instead of trying to autopistol them(this is with +25% flak on the autopistol)

[paper harness]

I’m going back to doom posting about brutal momentum

[hard nexus]

how’s the essay coming along

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/gosling-sad-gosling-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-snow-gosling-snow-gif-6845320348811377304

[hard nexus]

yeah fair

[misty nova]

Yes sir
Yes sir

[hard nexus]

huh

[hard nexus]

also ma’am

[paper harness]

I have reached grenades on vet

[hard nexus]

what order is it going in

[misty nova]

Yes ma'am
Yes ma'am

[paper harness]

Class related balance, weapon related balance

[gloomy badge]

Sometimes I wonder if you people sleep

[hard nexus]

ah

[modern lintel]

we love shredder stun

[hard nexus]

so you are not very far

[hard nexus]

i haven’t for the past

17 hours

[paper harness]

Then I’ll probably drop an extremely lengthy post on uncanny, brutal momentum, stealth, peril and cleave

[hard nexus]

and can’t for the next 3-4 hours

[misty nova]

SAP does have better on kill suppression than Brauto though

[gloomy badge]

Can't wait to read

[hard nexus]

the wall of text is gonna be awesome

[placid fiber]

I honestly can't wait for brautos to be able to have inspiring barrage so I can, almost completely if not fully completely, switch to brautos on my marty builds lol

[rotund shoal]

I don't

[naive stirrup]

god no

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gossling-blade-runner-blade-runner-2049-purple-based-gif-10338804311867949447

[gloomy badge]

I used to have terrible insomnia

[placid fiber]

wtf is this heresy of which you speak?!

[gloomy badge]

I genuinely craved death after 80 hours without sleep

[naive stirrup]

the penalty for sleeping is death

[rotund shoal]

every time you sleep you die and a new person wakes up in your bed the following morning

so i try to do it as little as possible

[modern lintel]

i dont have insomia just rabid goober syndrome

[placid fiber]

I've been listening to one of Aviator's songs, while ror2'ing, on repeat... at 1.15x playback speed

[rotund shoal]

1.15x is truly demented

not 1x, not 1.5x. not even 1.25x

1.15x

[placid fiber]

It's also a fairly face paced song to begin with lol

I've found his music usually doesn't sound good past 1.1x or 1.15x for the speed

At least not to me

Anyway, time to go die! >:3

[ornate bone]

bro really just went and said "I'm not gonna listen to something at a bonus speed that can be multiplied to 100"

[gloomy badge]

You're a poser if you haven't stayed awake long enough to start seeing and hearing things

[rotund shoal]

longest ive ever went was around 5 days

not sober obviously

3 days sober is even more hellish i imagine

[gloomy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-reads-chat-cat-eating-cat-stare-stare-cat-cat-looking-gif-18206828986708283356

[ornate bone]

Longest for me was 3 days before I started having these slight faint episodes

[rotund shoal]

microsleep

[gloomy badge]

Honestly

A 20 minute nap

Will recharge you

Anything longer than an hour and a half will leave you groggy

2 hours i think is when you start the first rem cycle

[modern lintel]

longest iv ever went was 4 started getting little super eppy as my friend was driving me home then they started talking about how theyd become celibate or something and given up masturbation thought that was odd even in my stupefied state

[gloomy badge]

I do wim hof breathing before exercise and sleep

Gives you a sort of oxygen high and cools the temperature of your brain

[rotund shoal]

did yall see the shadow people

i also had one of my friends voices narrate in my head for the last day

he wasnt even saying words they just sounded like words

but i couldnt tell the meaning of it

[gloomy badge]

I've only had sleep paralysis twice

[modern lintel]

i just start feeling real floaty

[gloomy badge]

Once as a child and once was self-induced

[rotund shoal]

oh ive had it hundreds of times cuz i taught myself to lucid dream

its not scary once you know whats happening

if u ever want to get out just flex your fingers and toes

works instantly 100%

[gloomy badge]

The time I induced it, I saw a bunch of lights glitter across my walls

Sort of like there was a prism in the room refracting a light

Pretty cool

[rotund shoal]

If you time it right you can go straight into a dream

Dont do it from the start of your sleep cuz you have to wait for REM

and waiting for 2 hours in sleep paralysis isnt really the thing to do

You wake up after 2-4 hours and then do it and once you fall into sleep paralysis you just go straight to lucid dream land

My sleep paralysis hallucinations are usually loud screaming so its even harder to stay in it for long

prims with refracating light sounds cooler

[placid fiber]

Welp, I made it past stage 2(which was titanic plains) lol

[acoustic dune]

eya phil

[placid fiber]

Howdy

[placid fiber]

I'm doing a defaultmando glass randomstages inferno run, in ror2 rn... it's a bit nervewracking since any little breeze could instantly obliterate me lol <.<'

[acoustic dune]

golly

idk what that mean

anyhow got to try the new helldiver update

its so joe back

[placid fiber]

Basically I'm using the normal kit the commando starts with(which sucks)... and I have 1/10th health and I do 5x damage... and I am playing on a modded difficulty which endlessly scales upwards the further you get into a run... and every stage is a random one(instead of getting the normal stages in each next set of stages)

[acoustic dune]

well gl on you endavour

[ornate bone]

GAMERS

THE GPU HAS ARRIVED

Holy shit this card is heavy

Or the box at least

[polar nexus]

it will bend your mb

[frosty herald]

Simply download more ram

[north niche]

what did you get

[placid fiber]

Welp, time to probably die lol

wait, nvm... my disposable missile launcher fired as the false son spawned and obliterated the 1st phase XD

ez W lol

... even with the artifact of glass and +800% damage... it still took me like... 6-8 suppressive fire barrages with phase rounds inbetween them to kill the false son's last phase. :/

[frosty herald]

the new shartide update is in 10 days right?

[placid fiber]

Sad to say that this was the pretty much the best option for me to leave at the rebirth altar... :/

[violet hornet]

K33t is right, you may want to consider getting a support for your GPU if you haven't already

[shy river]

My friend uses a cardboard tube to hold up one end of their 4090 cuz they had enough room in their case lol

[violet hornet]

Financial priorities

[placid fiber]

Welp, I finally got my 1st zet aspect.

What I did was raise the base damage of it(so monsters always got the most benefit out of it, as glacial elites) and then massively lowered the amount of bonus damage you got from stacking it

[long oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/ferret-angry-gif-23442156

[placid fiber]

I agree, screw that bottle of water in particular!

[fleet zealot]

wtf is this ferret posting!

poggers

I love it!

[merry flume]

why is it so angry

besides being scruffed up

[fleet zealot]

it's excited!

pogging!

[fleet zealot]

yummy ankles

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-cat-mad-cat-mad-death-stare-gif-2007099240114134459

[paper harness]

Car sales is so unbalanced lmao

[fleet zealot]

did you see the red lobster buffs? I thought it was gone for good

(i know you are talking about karsolas)

[placid fiber]

All hail the all mighty derp!

2 actually spawned on that stage lol

[fleet zealot]

climber

[ornate bone]

I uhhh

Game looks like this

From lowest to high

The card was definitely leaning down, but I screwed it on the case to put it straight

After I screwed it, I pushed it a bit back and forth to see if it was bending somewhere

Seems to be okay without the support

Unless the card is heavy enough to bend the metal on the back that holds it to the case

[polar nexus]

good

[hushed knoll]

KEET

[ornate bone]

I noticed it was leaning when I had the case lying down

[hushed knoll]

Omg hiii

[ornate bone]

I was like "wait a minute, why is it moving"

[polar nexus]

STAN HI

[hushed knoll]

What’s Gucci

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-dance-wow-mars-planet-gif-15997905

[ornate bone]

The game is having some microstutters, but I assume it's building the shader cache

https://tenor.com/view/embed-fail-gif-21166005

[polar nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/sigh-parks-and-rec-ron-swanson-ok-then-gif-10489321092402713937

[ornate bone]

I also took the opportunity for some sibling bonding and showed my sister how to replace a GPU

[polar nexus]

WHY

WHY AM I FAILING

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-embed-failure-epic-embed-fail-double-embed-fail-gif-23538127

[ornate bone]

sea noodle

[pale spindle]

@fleet zealot

https://youtu.be/vEzLZKWRGno?si=_nC4yA0wKTW4A2Ej

[placid fiber]

Don't forget this one. :3

[pale spindle]

Tru

[placid fiber]

They're the best type of Ferret, since they give us our daily needed doses of ferretkind.

rip

Welp

It doesn't like me today lol

Must be the website, since the ones that work for me aren't working.

[nimble fiber]

bread

[frosty herald]

Para 100% went to the diddy party

[placid fiber]

Gotta love it when the bazaar has a good cauldron, for once... :/

[fleet zealot]

micro ferrets

[placid fiber]

I mean... couldn't one say that these are similar to microbots...? and if they are, couldn't one also say they could be ferrets for all we know...? >:3

[misty nova]

Tough Times granting armor

[placid fiber]

Well yeah... Tough Times gives armor. It's Tougher Times that have a chance to block damage.

[misty nova]

I see

Hmmm

Time to stack armor on Mult I guess

[fleet zealot]

CHAINSAW PEAK

[misty nova]

Yeah I had Tougher Times in mind

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-snowman-mewing-snowman-mewing-streak-gif-8723555851120406070

[merry flume]

what mods are you using

[placid fiber]

I think it is more or less going on that tough times got worn down and now has a chance to block damage, instead of reducing the damage you take. <.<

[remote lark]

what's wrong with it

axe for chaff and armor, revolver for specialists, grenades for dog packs since i still have trouble with them

[grizzled aspen]

One more mission until exemplar...

But I'll have to wait 6 hours to do it.

[remote lark]

can i come grief you :3

[solar gorge]

you're so late

[grizzled aspen]

Shut up!

[placid fiber]

Hm... I think I'm gonna keep looping until I get to maybe... 2 hours into the run... Then I'm gonna do the void fields, for the lulz

[grizzled aspen]

I've had to restart it like 6 times because of instakills/bullshit!

Burgle belly flops, teammates shooting barrels for no reason, etc.

[solar gorge]

i had it day 1 of the update

i am him

[remote lark]

lambda has been a loser since day 1

🔥

[solar gorge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1274437110933229588/caption-17.gif

[remote lark]

what was the naem of the blessing you wanted on flamer

i forgor

[solar gorge]

Overpressure

https://tenor.com/view/troll-face-creepy-smile-gif-18297390

[fleet zealot]

blaze away (only appears in t3 currently)

[remote lark]

okk

lets go gambling!!!

[visual stream]

I love how most cat memes are not portraying the emotion of the cat accurately

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/blissful-malevonence-gif-10192619856801101589

what emotion is this

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/счастье-gif-23940530

Like this cat is NOT happy

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-cat-cat-fu-gif-23644413

[visual stream]

Pretty neutral

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-gif-14922675818058709477

nervous gulp

[paper harness]

It’s bad

[paper harness]

Work?

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[stone fern]

@paper harness did you finish weeklies already?

[paper harness]

No

Playing duos

[stone fern]

are you gonna run weeklies today or tomorrow?

[paper harness]

And farming plasteel and weeklies

[paper harness]

Been running them all day

Some vet runs

Some ogryn

[stone fern]

eh ill beg on vox maybe someone wants to do twins 32 times

[fleet zealot]

first game today

smite shielder teammate

zzzzz

[pale spindle]

Yes honey

[wicked wing]

i need to farm the crafting mats and mess around with more zel builds

[sullen forge]

Trauma staff users all collectively queuing into my game to make it impossible to land headshots with the headhunters

[pale spindle]

I've been spamming aurics yesterday, and I went knife book with max CDR.

Just so I can baby sit my teamates whenever they start loosing toughness

[fleet zealot]

at least trauma kills shit

[sullen forge]

True

[wicked wing]

cant do aurics yet rip

[fleet zealot]

game is dead, server dc'd me from the smyker lobby, didn't let me reconnect

pressed quickpaly, 3 bots

[pale spindle]

I know book is trash, but

It seems like I can Shepard my teamates with it like they are preschoolers 🤔🤔🤔🤔

And since ei go max CDR I can just spam it

Oh no, my psyker with no wave clear is getting surrounded? BOOK

My Zealot trying to light attack a crusher with a chainsword? BOOK

My Ogryn planting the shield in the corner? BOOK

[wicked wing]

but... what if chainsword is on (im new dont crucify me)

[pale spindle]

Do you think these people even know what an alt attack is?

[wicked wing]

fair

so i guess that gives me advantage

[pale spindle]

They don't even know that right click = block

[fleet zealot]

error 9999

that's a new one

[wicked wing]

i bet they dont know hold right click hold left click is baller

[pale spindle]

It just makes me shudder every time I see someone try to dodge a mutant by jumping. The momment I see that, I know for a fact that this is going to be a 30+ minute run 😔

[wicked wing]

i created my mutie killer yesterday

if i see one charging at me, pull out the double barrel shorty, aim and just

BLAM

usually results in a dead mutie

[misty nova]

Oh then you should use a heavy attack

[pale spindle]

Just use a heavy attack

Mutants take 25% less damage from range

[wicked wing]

did not know this

my setup has been thunder hammer + double barrel w mostly left side of tree

[pale spindle]

Where is your wave clear? 🤔

[remote lark]

i mean th can clear chaff

its not the worst

[stone fern]

thammer

[wicked wing]

thammer is my wave clear

[pale spindle]

TRUUUU

[wicked wing]

turn it on

bonk

[pale spindle]

uuh

[wicked wing]

if it did a side heavy it seemeed to explode in a radius around me

[pale spindle]

What wepaons in the game has the worst WC? For melee I thought it was the TH 🤔

[frosty herald]

im pret sure a grey double barrel oneshots a mutant

[stone fern]

4-5 wounds headtaker stacks and thrust make clear wave clear

[remote lark]

knife and dclaw are pretty terrible

i think

dclaw maybe not mines only half built

[pale spindle]

[wicked wing]

mines purple and 1 shot every time

[merry flume]

noob

[pale spindle]

Oh shit u gotem 😔

[remote lark]

*compared to thammer

thammer clears 4 with every heavy

[pale spindle]

They have worse WC?

[remote lark]

knife clears slower

[pale spindle]

I don't think so?

[remote lark]

[pale spindle]

Heavy MK6 hits 6

[remote lark]

oh i dont like mk6

[wicked wing]

i just literally dont know what feels fun to use and what is good

[pale spindle]

Unless u are trolling

[remote lark]

i use other knife

[wicked wing]

cause thats my thing, i didnt know the mk's mattered

[remote lark]

smile

[pale spindle]

Even if it is the MK3, u attack soo quickly with it

[frosty herald]

thunder hammer and eviscerator are pretty solid

[merry flume]

double noob

[remote lark]

eat glass

[pale spindle]

I think knives are like mid tier

[remote lark]

swallow

[merry flume]

projecting

[frosty herald]

the main difference between marks is moveset damage and stat modifiers

[remote lark]

3/4 or bad

[wicked wing]

those are the two ive liked the most yea, hammer just seems to be all purpose for armor/non armored at least, and evis just is fun

[pale spindle]

But yeah the TH is supposed to have some of the worst wave clear in the game because it is designed to one shot things

[frosty herald]

kid named ironhelm

[wicked wing]

i stay on malice so, dk if that influences anything

[frosty herald]

everything is good on malice

[remote lark]

'supposed to'
its really not that terrible

thats all im saying

[stone fern]

crit damage is awful

[pale spindle]

I don't think the difficulty changes how effective the wave clear is

[remote lark]

stop talk

[stone fern]

but crafting update will fix it

[stone fern]

no

crit damage bad

[remote lark]

rampage shred good?

[stone fern]

ye

[wicked wing]

i just somehow blundered my way to 23 levels on my zealot just usin what i like

cause i know how to dodge, block, counter, push, etc

i played vermintide

[frosty herald]

leveling is the easy part (sucks ass)

[misty nova]

Enemy HP?

[pale spindle]

Use the chainsword on Heresy and you will understand what I mean about "waveclear"

[wicked wing]

bold of you to assume i even wanna touch heresy

[pale spindle]

Yes but this is equally applicable to all weapons

[wicked wing]

LMAO

i get what you mean

weapons have a max # of enemies they can hit at once right?

and some of the weapons have low # max

[pale spindle]

The chainsword/evis does not have damage drop off when cleaving thru targets

[frosty herald]

auric damnation rn

[misty nova]

Yeah some weapons have target cap

[pale spindle]

The target cap just means how many enemies the weapon can cleave thru before it just stops

[wicked wing]

how did my emote become a sticker discord do not do that again

[misty nova]

Others just lose damage until they hit minimum

[wicked wing]

gotcha

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-chaos-spawn-ginkgo-fall-gif-4230252786752366838

[misty nova]

Hehe shield

[merry flume]

lacerate / ft shroud zealot in my game

https://tenor.com/view/йвйв-gif-17410664305885425651

[frosty herald]

you hit max stacks from 2 crits

[pale spindle]

I've been having Psykers all day that go surge + BB + deimos ☠️

[frosty herald]

lacerate is so unnesecary when your using fleshtearer

[merry flume]

i straight up left my last game because i had a level 400 xbox vet just go down like 10 times in 5 minutes

[frosty herald]

shouldnt have left

easy penance farming

[pale spindle]

TRUUUU

[merry flume]

i have it already

[wicked wing]

i just wanna play and farm currencies and levels is that wacky to say
i enjoy playing and just chopping down tons of enemies or smashing heads in w my bonk hammer

[frosty herald]

i sometimes wanna be toxic when someone downs 50 times by just saying "thanks for the penance progression for wars not over"

[pale spindle]

That's fine but this is the Zealot chat.

Which means we are a bunch of narasasistic femboys that are addicted to aurics

[paper harness]

Narcissistic*

[frosty herald]

if you wanna farm currencies damnation is the best for it

800-1k plasteel

[wicked wing]

fair enough
i just like playing religious nuts, i mained zealot in vermi2 but the "low hp boi" build

[wicked wing]

... fiiiiiiiine. i guess ill learn the game 🙄

[frosty herald]

you get te same effect with martyrdom

[paper harness]

22 min 3veg, this game is so easy

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/yass-baka-edgeworth-ace-attorney-gif-14985947914024415269

[pale spindle]

Also isn't the entire point of this game to fuel your gambling addiction? 🤔

[misty nova]

Stack wounds curios and get to the middle keystone

Join the martyrdom enjoyers

[wicked wing]

i tried but i didnt have +wounds stuff so it wasnt super effective

but trust

i want to use martydom

[frosty herald]

getting curios is certainly annoying

[frosty herald]

but wait until you get to lvl 30 before seriously making a build

[wicked wing]

i lowkey love the relic where you stagger enemies and just go ham as you get lower
"I MAY BE BLEEDIN BUT SOON YOU WILL BE TOO!"

[frosty herald]

you have worse stats below 30

[gloomy badge]

You dont have access to decent level gear either

[pale spindle]

Nah become the greatest book user in the game 😎

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ca461da-16ee-4c89-b61c-1e54ec2fd5e2/book-is-trash-stop-fcking-using-it?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[wicked wing]

well when my wife is done being a worker (shes playing dbd for me) ill probs try to grind higher difficulties

[pale spindle]

"Difficulties" are just a state of mind 😔 🙏🏻

[wicked wing]

and brother mine is always trash

[misty nova]

Just remember to take cover

Or at least not stay out in the open for too long

Ranged enemies hit hard

[pale spindle]

Nah I just slide

🛝

[sullen forge]

Normalize shooting teammates of the map with barrels because they have a weapon you don’t like

It’s okay

[misty nova]

Or Sprint Dodge

[velvet hawk]

yay or nay?

[sullen forge]

Penetration stinky

Toss it

[velvet hawk]

it will be tossed

[wicked wing]

those stats are random??????

[pale spindle]

U know who else is stinky?

[sullen forge]

Don’t

[pale spindle]

Ur MOM'S ******** 🥵🥵🥵🗿

[sullen forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1284620687012659200/4x-2.gif

[misty nova]

Yeah

[wicked wing]

i am so dumb my god

[misty nova]

That's why the whole gambling joke

[north sedge]

Why roll anything now when update soon

[misty nova]

Don't worry update in 9 days will make things better

[wicked wing]

thats partially why i havent cared too terribly much

[placid fiber]

Couldn't you get the blessings set up on the weapons, at least, since we are going to keep our current weapons/curios? That way you can then, after the update, change the perks that got locked from that?

[velvet hawk]

want weapon now not 10 days

[frosty herald]

@rocky nacelle Hop on

[velvet hawk]

i have ADHD who knows what i'll be doing in 10 days

[wicked wing]

me when god of war ragnarok drops on thursday

[ember yew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1285637622085189783/TYpFGzfzzosmsXVsOSGTLao9OsOElLquCU1JYgTLzHc.jpg?ex=66eafed7&is=66e9ad57&hm=102134d590d1fa43270dbfea69050400a761860d25f62bdd42a1787e53208172&

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[placid fiber]

I mean... it's going to main be the blessings that are going to be locked behind mastery level, right? If you got the t4 blessings you wanted on the weapon, then you wouldn't need to worry about having a high mastery level on the weapon to get those blessings...

[ember yew]

https://tenor.com/view/he-knows-oh-gif-10684016

[frosty herald]

Im losing braincells

[sullen forge]

Only if they had Crit damage

[ember yew]

also

what's dis

[pale spindle]

Me when the item update drops:

[sullen forge]

Truly would’ve been the best knifecel Darktide would have ever seen

[frosty herald]

Weakspot crit damage

[north sedge]

I just don't see the point in stabbing yourself in the dick when the no stabbing yourself in the dick patch is around the corner

[ember yew]

i stopped playing till 26, time for some V Rising on the side

got a group

[placid fiber]

Damn it... I almost made it to rallypoint delta on time to get the preon...

[placid fiber]

I mean wouldn't you be doing yourself a favor by making the grind less, for a perfect weapon of that types with the blessings your more than likely already have in your blessing pool currently?

[north sedge]

nah, let the dick wounds heal some

[hushed knoll]

Hello Dough I hope you are having a great day

[placid fiber]

I'm mostly talking about if you had either the resources or the perfect weapon rating(but terrible perks and blessings both)

[hushed knoll]

[north sedge]

just starting

[hushed knoll]

the world is your oyster then

OH MY GOD ICE

OH MY GOD

[left iron]

I lost my whitelist status on my favourite server

I must queue like a plebeian

[hushed knoll]

Are you words of wisdom

[placid fiber]

Since it would save some time and effort, in the long run

[left iron]

Yes

[hushed knoll]

I knew it

Your alter Eggo

Who

[north sedge]

i mean, you could also do literally anything else instead

[hushed knoll]

Ego

[north sedge]

alter eggo

[placid fiber]

Btw, Dough. Know what my totally stupid plan it, for this run? Once I get somewhere between the 2 hour and 2 and a half hour time into the run I'm gonna go do the void fields lol

[north sedge]

🤔

[placid fiber]

for the lulz

[north sedge]

well you either get deleted or have so much hp regen that the void doesn't effect you

[placid fiber]

Well... I have transcendence lol

[visual stream]

Wow assault is kind of dogshit in pvp isn't it

[nimble fiber]

just switched from assault to bulk and god damn its different

[placid fiber]

I mean... I might have all shields, but, I also have this item as well <.<

I actually just got it this last stage :/

[visual stream]

When full auto guns kill you in five fucking bullets you don't feel inclined to get in the air and then sit still to charge a melee ground slam

[nimble fiber]

real

[visual stream]

Or do a two feet forward dash three times

[nimble fiber]

maybe they buff assault at some point

[north sedge]

pvp to me is just super old school and not really what im playing

[nimble fiber]

is there a specific mission that gives the most xp? or just any mission that is fast

[merry flume]

he was in my mission the entire game wtf was he doing

[nimble fiber]

so far I've been playing the second a lot

[rocky nacelle]

no

burnt out and don’t even feel like looking at a pc

rn

[merry flume]

happens when you stay up to 5am playing darktide smh

[rocky nacelle]

it was 4

and I’m not burnt out on darktide

[lusty oar]

https://tenor.com/view/drip-gif-22284667

[rocky nacelle]

I’m burnt out on pc

[merry flume]

play console games LMAO

[rocky nacelle]

imagine

[hushed knoll]

[placid fiber]

Awww, I lost my Dio's since I got greedy against the blighted stone titan teleporter boss... 😦

[placid fiber]

I'm still at -1 luck, this run, as well. No clovers, yet. >.>

[frosty herald]

the vet player was def baiting

did actualy good during the match

[hushed knoll]

Uhm aktshually you have to say “did well”

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-stare-gif-25080910

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[lusty oar]

i did good by helping the orphans

[grizzled aspen]

Backup being a good person???

[placid fiber]

... into a body bag?

Or did you mean irl orphans? Cuz if you meant that then: Sorry, for the bad joke.

[sullen forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pawalell-pawking-oops-sowwy-gif-25038849

[placid fiber]

Ah, 1998... the year columbus sailed the ocean blue...

Wait...

Wrong century...

[placid fiber]

Forgot to post this with this comment lol

[pale spindle]

Xbox players trying to turn around to kill the pox walker behind them:

[placid fiber]

Huh... I can give this thing Zet aspects... Guess I might as well pass a fire aspect down lol

This is the one I put in there <.<

Anyway, time to play some Darktide

or die trying

[remote lark]

im trying soyker for the first time

is itj ust me or does assail like

seem inconsistent

it either cleaves enemies or is like

'nah i go to ceiling'

[lusty oar]

you have to look at the enemies

[blissful tendon]

it tries to track to where your camera is facing

so if you fire em off and look away the tracking gets noticeably worse

unless you alt fire but that's a given

[grizzled aspen]

Point the center of your camera slightly above the heads of chaff. Your darts want to go for headshots but they have no qualms attempting to pierce the body instead.

[visual stream]

I have realized assault is way better when you use it in a teamfight as a flank

[grizzled aspen]

This is the biggest issue I see with pub soykers because they just point center mass and spam them.

[ivory marlin]

Talking bout sm2?

[grizzled aspen]

The better way to use assail is to pace your darts to make use of true aim.

[visual stream]

And was inherently dog nuts when I played because my team kept filing into a four man firing line one by one

[visual stream]

Yee

[ivory marlin]

Bulwark my beloved

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/the-british-1775s-war-gif-15489864

average B point fight

[visual stream]

Trying to jump into four people to make chaos does nothing when your team watches you do it and makes nothing happen with it

[placid fiber]

Wait... you're telling me, now, that I wasn't supposed to be looking at the poxwalker's abs(or rather the lack there of) when throwing the assail projectiles?!

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[frosty herald]

assault is best used to disrupt enemy team composition

[remote lark]

smiteker boring

[paper harness]

Did you play smyker

[remote lark]

once

never again

[rocky nacelle]

have you tried aiming for once

[remote lark]

stfu

[rocky nacelle]

assail works fine for me

[paper harness]

Assail follows your crosshairs

[placid fiber]

You mean... like... you know... aiming at the barrels near your teammates in order to confuse the enemies as to why the stupid psyker is barreling their ally?

[remote lark]

xDDD

[placid fiber]

[frosty herald]

yes

[placid fiber]

I knew I was doing something wrong! Here I was aiming at the elites/specials, instead of the barrels near teammates... Damn it!

[rocky nacelle]

let me explode barrels more accurately as soyker

(with assail)

[median steeple]

I've killed many people on purpose with assail

[rocky nacelle]

its like when I tknife barrels and explode people off a map

[median steeple]

and will continue to do so

[light badge]

I'm considering playing loner stealth zealot

Is it as easy to play as I'm thinking it is?

[paper harness]

Staff psyker on sight

Plasma vet on sight

[visual stream]

If you use knife yes

[placid fiber]

In all honesty, though, the main way I'm gonna barrel teammates accidentally... is if I am gunkering it up... I am so bad at all staves(or I just dislike them(voidstrike and trauma)) besides the surge staff that the only staff I feel okay with bring is the surge staff... and I mostly use the right click (unless I gotta aim at a sniper far away... then I use brain rupture or assail)...

[rocky nacelle]

scriers void assail mk3

or bust

[grizzled aspen]

Yes?

Is this bait or did you genuinely not know?

[placid fiber]

Aww man...

[placid fiber]

It was a joke lol

[light badge]

Is there much difference between mk3 and mk6 as far as zealot is concerned?

[grizzled aspen]

Because unironically, spreading basic wisdom like this blows the minds of pubbers.

[paper harness]

Mk3 exists

And is better

[grizzled aspen]

What's wrong with staff soyker?

[placid fiber]

I have 1.6k hours in darktide, and even with how little I use the psyker I know to aim at the heads or above them with assail >.>

[paper harness]

Outside of surge they are incredibly op

[rocky nacelle]

mk3 is faster with spamming special into strikedown so it inherently has more DPS than mk6, mk6 has 2 horde clear sweeping heavies and has a strikedown for the 3rd heavy you can special spam into strikedown with mk6 it just isnt nearly as fast

[frosty herald]

i sometimes barrel by accident

but it is funny

[light badge]

Why is surge legal?

[grizzled aspen]

Nah bro I'm gonna go purg the 4 poxwalkers way over there instead of the horde in front of you.

[visual stream]

Is mk6 not the one with wide swings?

[acoustic dune]

ey ey sinners

[placid fiber]

Give me a fucking staff that acts like the beam staff from vt2... Then I'll finally have a staff I am in love with

[grizzled aspen]

The rule of 3, you only get 3 surges before you have to quell.

Can't be spammed like the others can.

[paper harness]

It’s less dps overall

[light badge]

Unironically I want 45% per m2 trauma back

[grizzled aspen]

How about Kerillian's staff?

[placid fiber]

Huh? I'm pretty sure I can get way more than that... but I use the uh left keystone, which reduces peril generated...

[rocky nacelle]

once you're familiar with knives it all up to preference imo, unless you just wanna dmg max tism then go mk3

but ive done good work with both marks

[frosty herald]

however more horde potential

[acoustic dune]

i wish every staff can acutally use surge

[paper harness]

It depends tm

[frosty herald]

both knives have their use for the preferred player

[placid fiber]

Bleh... It's very useful and versatile, but, I'd rather bring something that can KILL THE ENEMIES(Unless I know the other 3 players have it more than covered)

[paper harness]

I can horde clear as fast as a mk6

[placid fiber]

And I know saying that is ironic since I am most comfortable with the surge staff of all staves...

[grizzled aspen]

Idk, hotswapping and picking up a globadier or a flamer before they become an issue is huge. You're also able to pick of chaos warriors with it.

Using that in 40k would be nuts.

"Fuck you, sniper." lifts him up

[placid fiber]

lol I love that the taxe has this model on it, because of the weapons customization mod

[paper harness]

Purg blinds everyone and kills the entire map, void is just slightly worse plasma, trauma removed melee combat from existing

[grizzled aspen]

Trauma also makes it a pain in the ass for players that are good at melee.

[placid fiber]

cough UNLESS SOMEONE IS ON TOP OF IT AND USES THESE SETTINGS FOR FLAMER AND THE PURGE STAFF COUGH COUGH COUGH

[grizzled aspen]

Soykers like to do minimal charge just to knock shit down and it doesn't kill poxwalkers.

[frosty herald]

i might do a shovel build when the update is out

[placid fiber]

I haven't been blinded by the flamethrower on a zealot or the purgatus staff on a psyker since I put those settings on for the custom flames mod

[ornate bone]

Was browsing some old-ish stuff and found a Reddit moment

[rocky nacelle]

put on blood for the blood god mk6 heavy 10 poxwalkers and see your screen covered by red mist

spatial awareness skill check

[paper harness]

Trauma psykers on melee only should be throw off a bridge

[ornate bone]

"You could've explained it better"
"Which part?"
dead silence

[placid fiber]

I used those exact settings because of how little they obscured my vision

[light badge]

I wanna try playing a fresh character and leveling their starting garbage gear to 380s

Does the autopistol still suck massive amounts of ass compared to other ranged weapons?

[placid fiber]

On a side note: Man do I LOVE this client side flashlight for my brautos.

[paper harness]

Rare balanced ranged weapon!!!

[remote lark]

autopistol bad

[rocky nacelle]

autopistol was power crept

[rocky nacelle]

read your name before you give other people advice

[placid fiber]

Yep. The only 2 things the autopistol does good(for the most part) are: Kill specials(most specifically: Trappers) and regenerate toughness with inspiring barrage

[light badge]

So still useable, but leaning towards the underpowered side of the bell curve

[violet hornet]

I could see shredder ap being good on pox hound missions

[paper harness]

all ranged elites

if you can aim

[placid fiber]

The slightly lower draw time on the autopistol, compared to the brauto, is more of a convenience thing... and for suprise trappers that the autopistol is fast enough to draw to kill before it nets(and the brauto isn't)

[light badge]

Does every class start with a shovel?

Haven't made a new character in forever

[vast basin]

No

[frosty herald]

axe devils claw shovel and maul

[ripe heron]

Just for the prologue.

[vast basin]

Zealots start with rashad

[paper harness]

I will forever cope and seethe about not having standard infantry shovel on zealot

[light badge]

I thought they were giving zealot the shovel with the update, no?

[vast basin]

No

[placid fiber]

This is the difference. Very minute, but, it has saved me a couple times from suprise trappers immediately in my face.

[paper harness]

nope

[light badge]

Womp womp

[paper harness]

Psyker

[rocky nacelle]

we let clad come in here

[light badge]

Psyker "players" get heavy sword but no shovel for zealots

[rocky nacelle]

we can let other siblings come in here

[hard nexus]

show draw to shooting time

[placid fiber]

I was able to swap off due to how fast the autopistol drew probably in the same amount of time as the brauto was drawn out(maybe just a tiny bit more time with both actions on the autopistol)

[misty nova]

They have some Maniacs and a decent on kill suppression
So less ass

[hard nexus]

draw speed doesnt effect swapping

[paper harness]

heresy baby

[rocky nacelle]

he is heresy exemplar

[ripe heron]

0.2s on autopistol, 0.65 on braced

[placid fiber]

When I hit the key to swap back I had finished drawing the autopistol(or just about did)

[frosty herald]

shovel on zealot could be fun

[placid fiber]

The draw time is like... 0.1 seconds faster on the autopistol, so a bit minute

The brauto being vastly more powerful than the autopistol is sad due to fatshark LEAVING THE AUTOPISTOL IN THE GARBAGE OUT AT ALCATRAZ.

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepo-riot-riot-protest-peepo-angry-gif-21768097

[paper harness]

orrr

fs rebalances everything

back to a reasonable level

[placid fiber]

Honestly I think the only time the autopistol would be more beneficial to the brauto(specifically in this scenario) is when there are ragers in the face of a Vet, since they don't have access to twbs. I am leaving the psyker out cuz they have staves

[remote lark]

dorn what do you do if you reroll a teammate who left and its a smite psyker

do you leave

💀

[placid fiber]

And only when the careers are on cd on the Vet

[paper harness]

3 options

team kill

leave

speed up

[hard nexus]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iHqfm5UQb9pm2Wpvi/d1337uJ68jia?invite=cr-MSxqRlIsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

here

[placid fiber]

What about for Newer Darktide players that are trying to get better in like heresy and are communicating with you with the in-game voice chat(not as a psyker)?

[light badge]

I played a lobby with two smite psykers in it, one on void and one on trauma

But it was a quickplay match that was halfway done and I felt obligated to finish the mission with them

[rocky nacelle]

dorn let the malice babies think for themselves

or we'll have another nade

[light badge]

Holy fuck that was the most boring HISTG I ever played

[paper harness]

fiine

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[placid fiber]

I had that happen yesterday. Had a pretty mid Vet who was communicating and working on getting better at Darktide, but, they were still mid. I was even using the mk6 knife that run, and was doing much better at doing the heavy 1 heavy 2 block cancel rotation for hordes x.x

[light badge]

Surge staff > wall > smite

[rocky nacelle]

wall is peak

[paper harness]

I feel the same way about 3/4 staffs, 3 ranged weapons, both pswords and assail

[solar gorge]

welcome to playing with psykers

not just smite

[placid fiber]

B-but... I use the mk3 newer shovel for my Vet...

[rocky nacelle]

that is why i became a dirty gunker/scriers abuser

(unironically the most fun builds)

[rocky nacelle]

me when I see 3 snipers 2 bombers and a flamer in the front or back of us

pop scriers

kill someone for a DD stack+mettle

https://tenor.com/view/okuyaso-jojo-part4-jojo-morioh-gif-26356370

[paper harness]

Plasma, ciag, zarona

[rocky nacelle]

tenor dead its over

[paper harness]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gossling-blade-runner-blade-runner-2049-purple-based-gif-10338804311867949447

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/sonicman06-dbz-z-broly-dbz-broly-broly-gif-23376307

[paper harness]

u sure?

[placid fiber]

Finally. I was starting to feel the withdrawl of no ferret-ey picture goodness...

https://tenor.com/view/404soob-pepe-pp-gif-21552696

[rocky nacelle]

ok so they only killed certain gifs

tenor moment

[light badge]

I wish I could play staves without inherently ruining the game

[rocky nacelle]

anyways scriers + mettle + DD + knife movement speed, when I see a group of elite or specials in front or behind us

[paper harness]

actual recording of me reading patch notes

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/sonicman06-dbz-z-broly-dbz-broly-broly-gif-23376307

fastest thing on atoma

[rocky nacelle]

i think its just too much of a good thing

1 void staff user on the team

yeah ok

2 void staff users

everything is dead

2 trauma users

everything is afk

2 surge users

[placid fiber]

Okay... I know this amount of toughness is definitely overkill, especially since I have good balance... but... it feels so comfy... 😦

[rocky nacelle]

everything is stunlocked (and dies cause its not smite damage)

[rocky nacelle]

you wouldnt need that much toughness if you just dodged

[paper harness]

one trauma ruins the lobby

[frosty herald]

i have 180 tougness and 200 health

[placid fiber]

But I do dodge... and push and hack... and duck... and dip... and dive... and then dodge some more... x.x