#zealot-class
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You're talking about that 10s malice gameplay vid?
Someone leaked a speed running tech to them
We were talking about it before you were even in discord.

cool don’t care

"die in a pit, so the real pros can actually speedrun this shit"
for the monster hunters
why is pickle doing that
but I don't want to kill a baby hippo... 😭
So about the maps that I talked to you about yesterday. The skip was abusing some texture shit or something?
Why is it hamburger shaped?
dorn is going to lose it after fatshark fixes all the speedrunning exploits and buffs smite again
I could not do it, but I think I see how it was done
Literally the one who will get them fixed
Honestly... they probably will buff smite before the autopistol...
They hate the autopistol

I need the autopistol to be usable, I have a perfect one on all 3 classes...
They nerfed pinning fire and called it a day
you just have to double click it in the inventory
make pinning fire give 100% power again
It's mostly just a meme that melts trappers/dreg ragers...
LIKE COME ON! EVEN A 30% DAMAGE BUFF WOULD HELP IT!
Should I do focus target or weapon specialist with autopistol hmmmm
flechette on autopistol...
weapon specialist onslaught
mk4 chaxe is in a good spot so i don't care anymroe 🙂
WS infinite ammo 
Yeah onslaught was a given
This, cavalcade, and an innate crit chance boost would make it so fucking good.
Base damage is ass
somehow i create the most busted weapon ever by suggesting bleed on autopistol
if thats the og one i got comfy using it and it did most stuff good
They are legit buffing almost EVERY UNDER PERFORMING WEAPON BESIDES THE AUTOPISTOL
God
it's hilarious
Yeah but those weapons have always been underperforming
Hell the surge staff is better than the autopistol
ius dance
FFS THE SURGE STAFF
im guessing cause bolter has a niche and autopistol is just worse iag
Surge staff is really good.
so unless they giga buff it to invalidate iags, it will just be a worse iag with low finesse
Mobility is the selling point.
Yeah, since they are removing the inspiring barrage selling point by putting that on brautos
And Ceaseless barrage
Fucking Taxes outclass the autopistol, and not by a small amount either
What does it do again?
bolter still kills carapace in a pinch for any build that doesn't abuse knives, shreds bosses at a distance if needed and got ammo buffed
Taxe domination
Hell I think fleshtearer lascerate knives do as well...
Ceaseless is more suppression and more damage to suppressed targets
do ogryn power floatie beats autopistol? that's the real question here
But what if I play bolter knife... Am I doubling down?
Also I hate crushers.
I think the mk4 knife on the ogryn does of all things
oh jesus christ
so true me fr
I have 3 loadouts: knife chastise bolter, taxe chastise bolter, knife shroudfiel bolter
i hit the sweetspot mentioning knife bolter and you casually having builds with that
i used to play rev weapon bolter, i almost equally like chainsword, og eviscerator and og chain axe
what perks do you guys get on knife? flak crit?
What are your thoughts of the potential heavy sword plasma vets in the future?
or flakiac
flakiac I think
ill try it in 2 weeks 
they cant play melee so it wont be an issue
Are they nerfing any of the Vet's rending nodes?
Because rending would go pretty hard on the heavy sword
i dont think vets getting any nerfs

vet stays winning
youll only get like 10% normaly and maybe 20% very conditionally
Honestly I think I would switch to heavy sword on Vet super quickly
10% rending is still 10% more damage to crushers
I've had to heavy sword enough crushers to know that 10% rending would help a decent bit >.>
are all the ogryns considered elite
I think so, but, vets have a +20%* to ogryns node as well
20
tbh i love the shovel on vet
it iz nice
Shovel on Vet is like every warhammer 40k nerd's wet dream as a Vet
we need a 2 handed shovel
i standard issue shove special attack my anus every day fr
All of the nodes I use, in general, for my Vet would go pretty hard on the Heavy Sword tbh...
W shovel use
Like mom's slipper, but, with a shovel
Ever since weapon specialist was released... I've went from maybe 50 50 or 60 40 zealoting and vetting on my Vet... to 90% zealoting and 10% vetting on my Vet lol
maniac unyielding i think is best
flak doesnt help no?
u can already one shot all flak
I have to constantly be in the thick of it, knee deep in body parts of foes I've hacked to pieces.
Even on psyker, I mainly use melee.
i run that with perfect strikes
People are like "err, voidstrike op," but I have slain more heretics with my dsmk4 than all of my staves and guns combined.
but best psyker melee build is crit and if youre going crit anyway might as well bring a crit staff
so its the same build really
just with scrier
perfect strike does sound like a funny meme
on HSword
but rampage dblow cleaving everything
like butter
too broken
I like SG, but walls have so much utility that it's kind of hard to leave them behind.
I have a charge to save teammates and a charge to be selfish with.
Throw down wall, fight in melee behind wall while shooters are being dumb, or throw a wall down and draw my recon with malicious intent.
It's also really funny on bridges and in doorways because specialists straight up cannot follow you.
do i go lacerate or unanny(im bad)
Mutants will bounce off once and then run through, dogs can run through but can't pounce. Anything else repeatedly gets a push effect away from the wall.
m m mawicious intyent
is this chastise
replace mercy killer with uncanny
if you have to ask yes
already have one with precog uncanny
with uncanny
i wanna try something new
no
Then use that one, bozo.
precog to haymaker and carapace to crit block efficiency
blocked
heres something new
thats what block effic is for
yes that’s what block eff
lacerate mentioned
afternon
Bricked
It is actually the evening 🤓
beforeoui
AHCKSHUALLY
On zealot riposte with precog is better
here on the left coast
it 2pm
that 2 am
whats the future like?
bro is on communist clock
if the world ends...do you know about it 7 hours before I do?
Maniac unyielding is also better than maniac carapace
Technically yes
Wait thats the 6 knife
single target pa
if you have blades of faith maniac becomes moot imo
Yeah you could do flak unyielding
You should anyway
flak carapace uncanny f all the armors
Itemization will save it
make it 4
why do russians feel the need to rage in russian on mic
with no one to understand them
theres only so many times i can do the accent back before its no longer funny
Rage transcends mere language barriers
drop AVP
YUOR FATHER AND YUOR FATHER.
chicken noises
IN THE NIGHT
AND YOU CRY
erm didnt ask stinky stupid
rage transcends all
you have to slav squat to fully understand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIjKijhv1OU for clarification
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Boris and DJ Blyatman hit harder than monday morning hangover!
#hardbass so loud it blow speaker up
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Camera work by: Sergei and a few gopniks
Driver: Boris
Gopnik in white: Anatoli
Guy in army outfit: ...
so is drinking soy
its timeless
rectify this now or your rectum will pay
i slav squat on the regular
i have superior leg muscles that can bend that way
if i rage then i use a language people will understand
whats the point otherwise
Guys they took my image rights aways
LMAO
you when tf they tear up thr floor in the morning star
this is an osha violation if iv ever seen
what a lot of y'all need (a shower)
13 days
they gotta fix hadrons brickness crafting station
i just showered thank you very much
stinker
So dueling sword gonna be crazy on zealot but what if they gave zealot clunkier animations w it bc a rapier’s a pretty gentleman-y weapon and zealot is like a Pyscho who would just be swinging that Jon about
cole
hrrrm
you playing?
yes
im going to try a build iv nrver tried b4
shock maul helbore
safari man cosplay
i just realized vet needs some sort of grenade launcher
ive been saying this for everyone
only oggy has one
need more shotguns and launchers
Dbarrel made me very happy when it announced to be coming out
bro think he sir hammerlock...........
im surprised we still haent got db skin
literally me
you know he fcks
he'll take you on a safari, tell you about lions...youll be defenseless
the helbore feels so weird wtf
fuck osha all my homies die at work
I am going to kill you with hammers
just lettin u know that @median steeple stole ur meme and posted it in our gc
:>
the new bionic has a nice interaction with hair
autism time: does anyone have a spreadsheet or quick reference (besides gameslantern) for all melee weapon stats? I found one for ranged weapons (unsure if updated) but not melee
i think i might have to scrape it from gameslantern actually
Yes I did
I will not be ashamed
because you are stinky
if this was year one you'd be bald
I wish fatshark gave zealot the zola haircut
we've come so far
the spanish soccer player special?
they don't do that with any weapon besides psyker getting a unique laspistol shove
man f this game im playing dawn of war
1000 years fork in soul as penance
WHAT DID YOU DO TO EPIC COLE
also holy shit the helbore is mid
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
mitosis
havent played since shortly after they added the carnival level, whats happened chat?
peak sleeping positioning
I think I've fallen asleep in a position like that, before
wait is that your actual ferret
or do you just have pictures of ferrets
Bandit is the one who gives us what we want: Ferret Pictures
Which I call all manor of things like blue whale, chimpanzee, etc
i collect ferret pictures
nice sweater 💀
cute, 2 squids in their natural environment
yummy camera
Here, how's this?
ferret posting is so 1 minute ago
I’d be cool tho
That's not a ferret, that was a bumble bee. You failed the exam

What devils claw should I build?
Have a carpet instead @fleet zealot
what a beautiful smile
whats the current zealot meta chat?
I look at this and imagine: Just how long does it take to groom this fucking thing?!
let me introduce you all to Moo Deng’s older sister, Moo Wan. her name in Thai means Sweet Pork.
she doesn't hate the hose
Epic Cole vs Bandit. Catch more of it on Dragon Ball Z!!!
sure but i mean build wise
if i had to go most meta
Martyrdom has always been good as a keystone lol
people bitch about it but it was always good
^
yeah thats what i mean lol
fury momentum second wind duelist bleed crit nodes and cdr nodes and until death
More damage, attack speed, and toughness dr is always good
cus im logging back on for the first time in a long time and my zealot is still running revolver/heavysword with martyr
martyrdom works with pretty much any weapon
tho, for knife you generally prefer momentum or piety
i havent played in a hot minute, is this shit still good?
holy mid never using helbore again @rocky nacelle
yea nothing has changed in a while
that still slaps
those are great
sicko mode
some changes coming soon, but not to those
499 dmg revolver though uninstall
What are your thoughts on heavy sword for Vet and Psyker?
indifferent mainly
idk when we were stabbing everything at the walls of the alamo
that was pretty peak
the bayonet is the only good
rest in piss
Personally I like the idea on Vet, cause I can find anti-armor ranged weapons a bit more easily than for Zealot imo
Zealot has... what... 3 ranged weapons that can kill crushers?
also at one point
i know right, i wanna die
wait what does vet have? besides plasma obviously
ima restart rq
kk
helbore, rending in general talents, plasma, bolter, bolt pistol
Not to mention revolver
helbore is midbore
i guess helbore is the one they have extra over zealot
Playing darktide without me how disgusting
all the others are on zealot as well. only source of good rending is onslaught. +10% rending is so mid
You put 10% on a heavy sword and that does a lot for them dealing with crushers, imo
for guns i mean
Yeah
I mean you can use the double barreled vs crushers with it
i need to make a double barrel build for vet
also just casually 900K damage dealt
Won't do amazing damage, but, it will work in a pinch
(soyker hard)
Cole WTF is your steam
truly
with fruit by the foot
gamepass
not even
worse
reddit...?
xbox one
so true
Oh that's better than reddit
wait which is better
Beating your ass
I'm gonna guess no lol
cole can play knife on vet xbox better than some zealots can play knife on pc
test in psykhanium but i think 2nd
WOuldn't that be knife better than like... 80% of knife zealots can on pc? lol
cause of all the shitty knife zealots out there
8% penetration doesnt matter cuz hand-cannon, 14% reload speed is good, dmg is the same on both. maniac carapace is nicer than flak elites imo
wtf is personality scourge
OH YOU CAN DO THAT???
the vertigo from going to knife zealot
@modern lintel So: you're basically this? :3
ive wanted a different personality on my zealot for so long
series x but close
I can fix it, gimme a min lol
@modern lintel series x?
darktide on the ps5 pro trust
just soloed a daemonhost for the first time but nvidia recording thing keeps disabling itself
change voice/background etc
is this enough proof
didnt happen
xbox one is old gen current gen is series s and series x
you'll make me cry
even tho their is an xbox one x and xbox one s
will hang this on my wall
It drew a bit weird lol
Change backstory and voice
Some of these drawing types are weird af
Crayon my favorite
lacerate fleshtearer knife
Wait cole is a Xbox player????
Those boob piercings on the DH look painful
precog and uncanny*
And also like big doorknockers
That's what I used for this lol
based cuz uncanny is wasted on dh i think
Make sure to avoid uncanny at all costs
dh is unyielding it should work on them
wait i forgot i changed it to precog/riposte with the loadout modifier
Scab melee sucks
but knife deals full dmg to unyielding anyway no?
might be wrong here
trapper behind 5ft of solid carapace and ogryn was v epic
on the staircase no less
maybe i don't rlly know tbh
it looks like the guy on the left's nose keeps getting bigger and smaller...
no thats called perspective
No
I cant even find the new mission
What's that awful tesselation
alledgedly a really shit player
fuck graphics
yea I was gonna say didnt cole post them literally like 2 days ago
set it even lower
make the ground one color so you can see enemies better
One time I got hit through a whole fucking pillar on Chasm Logi
Like a solid barrier
Shot through
legit why i play on low settings no AA
That was supposed to respond to trapper shenanigans
besides fps
@south folio plays like that
It's like robloxtide
dont ping him he has school now 😠
Argggg
wait till tomorrow 
Sorry mate :/
its ok just take him out for icecream tomorrow
Hey uhh
real
oh my god this is amazing
Werent 20 ragers fixed???
My friend with a 960 runs dt better than that holy
i was buzz
i love turning around into instant 1 hp
ye i think so
because 4 poxwalkers that werent there
🙂
collectively just smacked my neck
Were they? Never seen anything about that fixed
F
Psyker moment
get good
Funny how after they buffed ragers they proceeded to make the director spawn more of them
At once
play without rashad
unironically tho
"fixed" I thought it was intended
seeing them get trapped and pulled into the 20 ragers off screen trying to rev me just sent me
you cant do the same movement style on zealot and psyker
Anyone else here play without second wind or am I a freak
big dollar maeletorm
ure based i cant do it
evil time
Cant do shit when you cant cleave for shit
Everytime I play vet, psyker or ogryn
this guy is gonna show you how to use Helbore
Look at the blessings
It's okay I get lit up like a dog in front of an ATF soldier every now and then and that makes me consider using it
Never do though
no bm antax its joever
We are so fucked
Infested antax
if i didnt have second win i would need positioning and gunplay to deal with gunners rather than dodge spamming
so im not doing it
I did a full grey auric run with an Antax and a hh mk7
Damn it was long
Dodge spamming works for everyone
I make it worse for myself by running bolter since I need anti-cara and refuse to take revolver
Good thing bolter is mid at everything and doesn't even give good suppression despite shooting literal rocket bullets
whats your melee?
Ironhelm
wait u need anti carapace with ironhelm?
Two fully charged hits to kill a crusher isn't super efficient when there's a pack of them
i dont run thammer so i dont know. only ever used crucis for one shots
If I wanted to I could use a stun nade or more likely two whenever I get a pack
Crucis doesn't even get the one shot ever since elite hp buff except for with most martyr stacks
And cara perk iirc
Boltgun very bad. Yes.
vet boltgun is fun cuz deadshot
otherwise i cant play it if i dont one shot enemies
Zealot boltgun is incredible with dance of death and tknives
perhaps. i only ever use it ADSing and resetting after every shot so dance of death suggestion makes no sense to me
(cuz i only use it on vet)
Yeah because that's the optimal way of playing it on vet
I should probably swap stuns for tknives tbh
You probably are right but it feelsbadman that bolter is semi-reliant on throwing knives
On zealot you're very much trying to dodge and shoot at the same time.
Esp since it doesn't one shot some of the specialists
this is my problem with it
Stuns are nice but everything before is either mid or terrible
not optimization wise just fun wise
i want to bolt some mfs in the face and they explode
Would 20% rending on flamers be enough to burn down crushers?
i build it on vet to do that
probably
Doesn't feel like I'm shooting rockets, just rocks
Someone in the comments on reddit said it'd take 10ish seconds to kill a crusher.
Please do not take this number and run with it
Your poor life
Uncanny cheesing will probably be better no?
I heard on reddit if you spam ping wardens and ask for melta gun to be added for zealot they'll actually do it
teef
yes
I think you posted this but w/e
game cooked me then wont even let reconnect lmk when yall r done @rocky nacelle
have you tried joining manually through the social menu
yam fake friend
I just
(also that vet wasnt so bad)
true
Got a 520 power maul
fake news
this game is fucking with me
I knew big E would return guardian to us
also evil maxxing
ds4 CiAG
unforgiving
i need to lock in oil up the nine yards im playing super mid
also my shit might just die mid match flash flood warning
also its funny I can still movement cheat
with ds4
thats how I was kiting 2 bosses around
lmfao
i got it on camera
u mean light attack slide?
?? really
- mettle / DD stacks
the thrust forward lunges you
really far
with those movement speed modifiers
love me movement options in games, especially FPS
please revive titanfall 2
Bro is cooking straight dogshit
sprint eff is definitely a choice
vet needs it
Didn't know they made it so the brush ran out of paint, so I had to do the 2 in 2 strokes lol
stand tall for turtle fall
That was with a watercolor brush lol
let the titan fallllllll
You see... doing skits like this I can do since I find it fun. Trying to actually draw something like a painting though? That's not fun for me
either way, it is art
Nice brother what modifier
painting is too big brain for me I only use pencil
Yeah, but, is it as much art as this?
peak
theres meaning. theres emotion. its a form of unconscious expression. its art
Sadly the best drawn letter in that is the capital F
the vicerality in the c in 'sucks' speaks to me
It's like my hand had a seizure for most of those letters lol
you define art using Techne but it can be defined by emotional appeal as well
my definition of art is something that looks better than what a 3rd grader could do lol
Still, I am happy they at least look like letters lol
can somebody help me clear a mission
Have a seizure on your keyboard, with your hands
That's all I got
Electrocute myself IRL to really get the experience, got it
One of the two has pretty much the exact same moveset as the mace from vt2 @still quartz
someone help pls
With what
kill the twins
Oh the mission
If I was in a better mental state I would offer, but, rn I'm not feeling anything x.x
5 million ping incoming
one sec logging in
use the indignatus, h1 l2 for horde clear, h2 spam for single target (h2 loops into itself), use special to proc high voltage on targets you can’t stagger (ogryns, bosses)
the electrocuted debuff to proc high voltage only applies when you stagger an enemy, or when you use the special
I-II
pretty sure thats what we're on
also bro
why did that vet just go super aggro everything in the front corner himself and die
the fucking kickback from those shotgunners screwed me over
what no TWBS does to a mfer
The vet was throwing
just had to reload and everything was dead but
i did it without the pillar first time
yknow the game wants to put 5 things behind us
Good to know, I'll add it to the archive
The legendary 4th state of matter!
wha
I literally have an archive DM just for me xD
83k dollars oh man
what are we looking for on curios anyway :vbaeT:
depends on the build
^
i run full toughness curios
We are going to die
I run full toughness unless I am doing marty
with 1 gunner resist
die
iv got 2mill docket and 26 steel banked rn
doing melee hoard clear stuff with the chainsword, and the revolver for blasting specials
need 1 more 3369418720
meow couldnt even Tknife 2 snipers
what keystone
shaky hands ahh
i was aiming for the BOMBER
(and missed)
(shut up)
double exposure
also are you level 30
ur new here so i gotta check lol
What chain weapon is the best in y’all’s opinion?
chaxe
piety, not quite 30 yet xd
That’s the one I picked cuz Viking zealot
im meming tho i dont actually know
if you’d like some build advice when you hit 30, feel free to ask in this chat
as for now though, with piety, you can probably run 2 toughness 1 health, or 3 toughness
some run 2 toughness 1 health cuz it helps with certain breakpoints with bursters and snipers, but i prefer the toughness
also don’t take toughness regen speed
Only need bodyshot smh
i was aiming.
for.
the bombers.
alpha’s about to get mad….
Likely story
👍
all my curios are plus stamina 🙃
lmfao
stamina isn’t really needed
with zealot in particular
you have a good stamina regen speed, second to psyker
psyker imo
psyker has KD
time to try and roll some new stuff xd
toughness lets you take more shots from ranged enemies, which will often be your biggest threat
Psyker stam regen is so fast that you never would run out really in my exp
1 +3 stam and KD can take a shit ton of hits
i run a +3 stam on psyker as well since the base stamina adds to KD actually
but its not needed
just fun
BRO
i need some real gamers please
ive failed the twin mission like 8 times
where tf are the zealot sweat lords
lets try again i fixed my build lol
yeah that’s why i do too
getting dinner sowwy
are you trying to do hard mode?
ah
Man its been so long since i did twins
shit is so sweaty on god
are you hitting the bell
I forget its still up sometimes
bell
is the entire boss arena covered in mines
sometimes
and does the ranged guy (ronda i think)
rodin
when he throws mines, does he throw 9-12 of them
EPIC COLE
yes
ok
hardmode
gloopy gibber
hardmode also spawns ranged enemies, normal doesnt
cole u must help
are you TRYING to do hardmode?
youll likely need a full team for that, not just me
we got 3
i have 3 other people
need 1 more
how do you deal with ragers on evis 😭
what is the code im joing on
3369418720
Ranged weapon is the best way to thin them out
Before actually using melee
Chastise chest bump staggers them but gun is your best bet
Chest bump can buy some time tho
i love the lil wiggle they do
here i was foolishly trying to beat them up with evis
always forgor gun exist on zealot for a reason
Naw evis is a bit slow and light on stagger esp if its mkxv
which evis
tigrus mk2
oh true that does exist..
grievous wounds is underrated
Grevious is just in a slightly unfort spot not awful if your taking TWBS
TWBS, good balance, are amazing talents
i get what you mean
but not taking TWBS makes zealot feel so bad
Yeah good balance is there too i suppose
Most people prob just find punishment easier to take
yeah but punishment is stinky
30% stagger is nothing
It do be mid
bring back 250% stagger punishment
I am seeing more tknives so maybe people will start grabbing grievous
tknives are the best thing ever invented
Yeah they are probably my fav blitz
I dont think ive run a non tknife build in months
I only use Throwing Knives when I'm running Flamer
anti armor throwing javelin
I hate not being able to kill off Specials
make the consecrated knife inflict holy fire on enemies
(this coincides with my changes to chorus)
Even when i did a knife duo with graia brauto i took tknives (this was not the best idea)
(holy fire please please please it’d be so cool)
poisoned throwing knife that locks them into a vomiting animation
dying light reference
I need to stop talking about DT it makes me want to play it but i must resist till the 26th
Based Dying Light player
maybe it was just a psword type of day think i did better that one
true
@frosty herald https://fxtwitter.com/Vainfeln/status/1834148935494930705
Nah bro it's a smaller hitbox bro
this better not be you
in wilds
Hell nah
meeeeee
I always play as a dude
yah
i can always just shazam it
ill send it
me freal
me when women get the better cosmetics/fashion in video games
(monster hunter world was a big example of this)
silence gooner
NEVER GOON
but no longer in wilds
finally WE MEN can be the ones wearing the skimpy bikinis

might have to check this out
my brother told me that they unlinked gendered armor
so the woman armor can be worn by men in wilds
if wilds has a chest wrap armor for men
might have to make a female character for once
chest wraps are so based
jotaro if he was good
Not enough hair
Big boob
too much hair on the right
samurais are too fire
she kill u
Samurais do be pretty cool
(shes like one of the strongest people in that verse)
capcom
put sarashi layered armor in wilds
and my life is yours
big boob
oh and theres a girl there too ig
someone in gen chat is having a skill issue
SARASHI IS KINO
and can’t dodge snipers
i didnt want to say it
also idk who this daniel person is but they seem annoying
hammer and sickle symbol in their name, and in their bio
btw a bandage wrap like this is to prevent your guts from spilling out if your cut badly
why do you subject yourselves to general chat
death is a preferable alternative to communism
erm no
real
really? that’s cool
I hate gooners
chest wraps are so based
this dude thinks he in the yakuza....
yagoonza
theyre just covering up cringe tattoos
you not dame da ne guy
i am lying it did originate in the samurai era
i know
noob
sarashi is based because samurais/yakuza/ and delinquents all wear em
t1 kill insignia in stream
should i ogryn mode
yes
it is quite an effective way to stem bleeding and disemboweling since the wrap is very thight
gunlugger time
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
evis is so much better than thammer its so sad
i need to use hsword again
i will probably use it on vet cuz that would be fucking hilarious
is yamato noob or joining back
13 days brother
hsword plasma vet is not real, it cant hurt you
fatshark:
wep spec hsword would go crazy
noob alert





