among other things
#zealot-class
drowsy steppe
opaque island
I Just want to punch heretics to deaht, whether i have to be an ogryn to do it or not idc, i just wanta fist weapon
pallid hemlock
Autocannon
median steeple
Ogryn should get a lascannon
hard nexus
lmfao yeah, thunder hammers got big buffs but everything else got enormous buffs
patent patrol
Gonna be straight up, I'm so down for that. I wonder tho, is it only single target or does it have horde clear?
vast basin
I Just want to punch heretics to deaht, whether i have to be an ogryn to do it o...
Knife punch+scourge 
gusty orbit
just give a different take on melta to every class, since not even the 40k universe has an inside agreement on what they even are
solar gorge
ds good movement, super fast attacks, one taps everything basically
patent patrol
lmfao yeah, thunder hammers got big buffs but everything else got enormous buffs
wait THammers are getting big buffs this patch or?
heady rapids
Gonna be straight up, I'm so down for that. I wonder tho, is it only single targ...
it has like 5 cleave
or 6
drowsy steppe
ds is mostly single target weapon but it has decent horde clear
heady rapids
not a lot
stone fern
wait THammers are getting big buffs this patch or?
FIXES AND BUFFS BROTHER
hard nexus
just give a different take on melta to every class, since not even the 40k unive...
psychic melta staff (molten beam)
hard nexus
wait THammers are getting big buffs this patch or?
yes
drowsy steppe
I like the ds2 personally
median steeple
I don't care who fatshark sends im not using DS4 again
heady rapids
idk what that means.
its like 3 people
patent patrol
FIXES AND BUFFS BROTHER
YEEEES! I don't care if they're powercrept, I'm HYPED!
hard nexus
wait THammers are getting big buffs this patch or?
the beginning of the first patch notes has it all
patent patrol
its like 3 people
So... dclaw?
median steeple
I like the ds2 personally
gusty orbit
wait THammers are getting big buffs this patch or?
yeah, way better cleave values and better power attacks to kill crushers and some cleave on powered attacks
pallid hemlock
DS2 is unpopular on psyker but zealot could make it work damn well
stone fern
YEEEES! I don't care if they're powercrept, I'm HYPED!
HELL YEAH LETS RUIN MONSTERS TOGETHER
heady rapids
So... dclaw?
dclaw has more cleave
spiral anvil
ds5 
patent patrol
dclaw has more cleave
doesn't dclaw only hit like 5? Idk all the stats
paper harness
Dueling sword
stone fern
Dueling sword
Imagine ds5 movespeed on zealot
fleet zealot
flamer+dueling sword will be the end of all things
pallid hemlock
DS5 is probs unusable on judgement zealot
median steeple
thank god for the bolter buffs
patent patrol
not a lot
well tbf depending on the swing speed you could probably consider it "horde clear". Idk.
hard nexus
HELL YEAH LETS RUIN MONSTERS TOGETHER
monstro damage was pretty heavily reduced
median steeple
im so happy
heady rapids
doesn't dclaw only hit like 5? Idk all the stats
i mean thats still more, on duelling you can barely hit 3 on the majority of the enemeis
solar gorge
remember to give good feedback to strawhat, all of this can still change
heady rapids
well tbf depending on the swing speed you could probably consider it "horde clea...
yes
pallid hemlock
One dodge and you slip off the level
fleet zealot
it wasn't heavily reduced tbh
hard nexus
thank god for the bolter buffs
bolt pistol?
hard nexus
i didnt see the bolter buff
median steeple
BP has cleave now
hard nexus
lemme relook
fleet zealot
it was changed from scaling 3.0-5.0 based on modifier score, to a flat 3.0 effectiveness
stone fern
monstro damage was pretty heavily reduced
self stun removed u can just hit it twice or reposition
patent patrol
yes
so does it still have decent horde clear or would you have to run the flamer with it. That's my question.
heady rapids
remember to give good feedback to strawhat, all of this can still change
im afraid what if they gave rending to community managers
hard nexus
self stun removed u can just hit it twice or reposition <:chadgryn:1161142998214...
true
heady rapids
so does it still have decent horde clear or would you have to run the flamer wit...
decent
median steeple
i didnt see the bolter buff
the changes before it starts naming is for both
stone fern
true
now i dont have to bitch about ironhelm losing carapace breakpoints after the chastise change
median steeple
so the sway, pull out time, and infested/cara dmg buffs are for both
pallid hemlock
Someone in the reddit thread thought Power Cycler is just stagger now
opaque island
Y'know I can see these changes finally pushing me into damnation as my go to difficulty, and then when they start rebalancing I'm just gonna stay there
gusty orbit
im afraid what if they gave rending to community managers
just have to gaslight them into giving 100% rending to flame weapons and tune the other blessings up
hard nexus
the changes before it starts naming is for both
pawesome changes
pallid hemlock
Reading standards keep slipping
vast basin
i didnt see the bolter buff
Gave it more cara and infested damage, quicker swap, more blessings
spiral anvil
forum user having terrible reading comprehension 
hard nexus
im just worried the game is gonna be even easier now lol
spiral anvil
it will be
stone fern
im just worried the game is gonna be even easier now lol
easier?
vast basin
Oh it will be for sure
spiral anvil
it already was
hard nexus
i do not want to see level 35 shitters in my aurics
heady rapids
im just worried the game is gonna be even easier now lol
oh its gonna be patch 13 all over again dw
stone fern
bruh rending on purge is gonna ruin it
heady rapids
then the nerfs will hit
spiral anvil
theres just more ways to make it easier
hard nexus
nerfs r gonna need to hit really hard
pallid hemlock
Then diff 6 drops
stone fern
i do not want to see level 35 shitters in my aurics
you're not even gonna see enemies
median steeple
it will but it's not the end of the world (most of this will prob change before the actual update)
solar gorge
im just worried the game is gonna be even easier now lol
it's going to be 10 times easier and we were already powercreeps be worried
spiral anvil
rending on purga is really dumb lmao
opaque island
Y'all talking about how easy this game is when I still struggle sometimes In jeresy
hard nexus
gonna probably just start running duos more often now lol
hushed agate
it will but it's not the end of the world (most of this will prob change before ...
I can't hear you over my BOYCOTTING
fleet zealot
rending is really dumb lmao
hard nexus
it will but it's not the end of the world (most of this will prob change before ...
hopefully
heady rapids
Y'all talking about how easy this game is when I still struggle sometimes In jer...
jerma heresy
fleet zealot
who cares about weapon strengths vs weaknesses
hard nexus
rending is really dumb lmao
rending needs to be capped to 20-30%
stone fern
Y'all talking about how easy this game is when I still struggle sometimes In jer...
its ok 20 days and you'll clear maelstrom without any problems
drowsy steppe
we still have a chance to voice our discontent here in the forums and reddit
pallid hemlock
We turning this into SM2
hushed agate
jerma heresy
median steeple
I can't hear you over my BOYCOTTING
Sorry I gotta review bomb the game now
it's so sad
gusty orbit
just make this a gacha powercreep fest, every update being crazier than the last but not as absurd as the next one
patent patrol
HELL YEAH LETS RUIN MONSTERS TOGETHER
Now I can finally truly justify holding onto this thing. Lol. (I know the first target is low, I was gonna use the new weapon system to hopefully buff that up in due time. Because at 69 it is LOW but it's not completely unworkable. If I can get that to 73%+, I'll probably be good to go for the most part.)
opaque island
jerma heresy
Phone keyboard
median steeple
Oh yeah
pallid hemlock
Add anim lock executions
median steeple
crusher getting thrust slaught is hilarious
stone fern
Now I can finally truly justify holding onto this thing. Lol. (I know the first ...
no thrust 4
heady rapids
Now I can finally truly justify holding onto this thing. Lol. (I know the first ...
you're getting defence
north sedge
crusher losing all it's flavor
frosty herald
WE TURNING INTO MHFRONTIER WITH THIS ONE!!!
patent patrol
you're getting defence
We'll see. I'm hoping not but we'll see.
spiral anvil
thunderhammer buffed but its immediately obsolete because rending flamer 
heady rapids
INVEST IN IRONHELM STOCK
frosty herald
GIVE ME BURNING FRIEZING EZURION 9999
hushed agate
WE TURNING INTO MHFRONTIER WITH THIS ONE!!!
patent patrol
>no thrust 4
Pretty sure I could upgrade it in the new system.
spiral anvil
or is that only purg
pallid hemlock
Crusher was held back by having mid blessings, no? And it was still plenty good
heady rapids
or is that only purg
both
stone fern
Pretty sure I could upgrade it in the new system.
BUY MORE IRONHELMS
north sedge
held back? it's very good right now
heady rapids
Crusher was held back by having mid blessings, no? And it was still plenty good
it was more than just good
now its gonna be fucking insane
spiral anvil
yea bring thunderhammer guys kekw
drowsy steppe
crucis might be on the come up again
pallid hemlock
Slaughterer lmfao
spiral anvil
thrust lmfao
patent patrol
BUY MORE IRONHELMS
Idk how to go about that. None in the market rn
heady rapids
thunder hammer but good
gusty orbit
Crusher was held back by having mid blessings, no? And it was still plenty good
it was super strong, now? borderline op like most other changes
stone fern
Idk how to go about that. None in the market rn
roll them on brunts
spiral anvil
crusher was already top zealot weapon in terms of effectiveness and ease of use
frosty herald
If crucis has a crusher breakpoint now
stone fern
it already did
pallid hemlock
I don't keep up with the tier lists
patent patrol
roll them on brunts <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Understood. What stat number should I aim for before I start checking stat distribution? Like 350+ minimum?
fleet zealot
crusher was already S tier
stone fern
ironhelm lost the breakpoint when they changed chastise
heady rapids
If crucis has a crusher breakpoint now
nah no way
fleet zealot
it's honestly going to be the META now
spiral anvil
not tier list you just know how good it is by using it for a few games
gusty orbit
If crucis has a crusher breakpoint now
well with the extra damage i bet you only need like 2 stacks of thrust or something like that
stone fern
Understood. What stat number should I aim for before I start checking stat distr...
defence as low as possible
unironically
pallid hemlock
I did, recommended it to mates levelling Zealot too
paper harness
Crusher getting slaughterer is insane
fleet zealot
and thrust
spiral anvil
thrust is probably still weaker than SC
pallid hemlock
Moveset teaches plenty, blessing pool small
stone fern
Now I can finally truly justify holding onto this thing. Lol. (I know the first ...
this one will be great after the crafting update youll be able to buff its stats
itll be broken
spiral anvil
SC slaughterer lmao
heady rapids
Moveset teaches plenty, blessing pool small
finally we're at the state of the game where the pool size wont fucking matter
finally
patent patrol
itll be broken
Yeah, I just have to hope it goes mostly into first target.
spiral anvil
slaughterer even gives stagger so you wont feel hammerblow being gone even really
hard nexus
thrust is probably still weaker than SC
thrust applies to monstrosities and your first hits, SC requires the enemy to be in a stagger state, they're both good but different uses
patent patrol
Luckily I have a lot of room for it not to.
stone fern
Yeah, I just have to hope it goes mostly into first target.
you only need 10 points on first target
pallid hemlock
SC is basically fucking Mainstay 
stone fern
should be mint
patent patrol
you only need 10 points on first target
... Uh... did I POSSIBLY get it?
Is this POSSIBLY the one?
paper harness
thrust is probably still weaker than SC
Aye
paper harness
However
heady rapids
... Uh... did I POSSIBLY get it?
bruh lol
paper harness
It did not need power blessings
stone fern
its already peak
spiral anvil
thrust applies to monstrosities and your first hits, SC requires the enemy to be...
my go to combo is pushattack > H1 > L2
heady rapids
How does this thing get bricked.
it doesnt
paper harness
They will have to gut it massively
stone fern
How does this thing get bricked.
did it?
spiral anvil
so thrust only benefits a lil
stone fern
just put thrust 4/headtaker 4 on it
drowsy steppe
... Uh... did I POSSIBLY get it?
you lose a dodge but its good otherwise
stone fern
the crafting update will let you change perks for free
spiral anvil
SC is basically fucking Mainstay <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
its mainstay in a game where dont have smiter in your tree
heady rapids
after switching to helldivers this feels like a breath of fresh air
stone fern
I haven't checked yet.
ye just change the blessings for now and keep it for the update
patent patrol
ye just change the blessings for now and keep it for the update
Oh yeah also I might keep this one just to use to get more blessings for the mastery system EXP.
stone fern
youll be able to buff that and itll be preak
drowsy steppe
the crafting update will let you change perks for free
no locks
stone fern
Oh yeah also I might keep this one just to use to get more blessings for the mas...
yeah keep all of them
drowsy steppe
2 years in the making
hard nexus
after switching to helldivers this feels like a breath of fresh air
helldivers makes things weak and worthless, darktide makes nearly everything overpowered
paper harness
If they give us no bots option and mission select perhaps this won’t be as cancerous
stone fern
at least 2 will be godrolls
heady rapids
helldivers makes things weak and worthless, darktide makes nearly everything ove...
yeah im taking latter all day
stone fern
If they give us no bots option and mission select perhaps this won’t be as cance...
solo mode hello hello?!?!
patent patrol
yeah keep all of them
I'm not gonna keep all of em. Some are too low in a lot of important stats and would be EASY to screw up. I'll keep rolling for more but.
heady rapids
reading helldivers patchnotes was honestly depressing LMAO
median steeple
reading helldivers patchnotes was honestly depressing LMAO
Rest in peace old flamethrower efx
paper harness
3 ogryn 1 rending purg is cancer
median steeple
idk why they changed them from an accurate flame to the shitty one
stone fern
I'm not gonna keep all of em. Some are too low in a lot of important stats and w...
the stats youll be able to upgrade are random and you can also sacrifice them to earn blessing points
gusty orbit
4 ogryn c-i-vi fun
i dont know what a c-i-vi is but 4 ogryns with kickbacks is so balanced omg
patent patrol
at least 2 will be godrolls
What do you think of this one? Hold onto it? I think with how low the total stats are I have room for it to dump a lot into first target
gusty orbit
again, why would be the kickback in that state
heady rapids
What do you think of this one? Hold onto it? I think with how low the total stat...
oh btw
heady rapids
yopu're gonna be able to just switch marks
hard nexus
Rest in peace old flamethrower efx
darktide flamer now OP against armor, hd2 flamer worthless against it
stone fern
What do you think of this one? Hold onto it? I think with how low the total stat...
i would keep everything 2k dockets isnt worth it
heady rapids
in the new update
stone fern
the base is worth a lot more than 2k dockets
hard nexus
how did the playtesters let this shit go
gusty orbit
how did the playtesters let this shit go
redditors xd
hard nexus
even i can realize how absurdly OP it is
heady rapids
fury flamer is back baybee
stone fern
redditors xd
its over chud reddit gets the dev team.....
hard nexus
fury flamer is back baybee
now with 100% less chastise!
gusty orbit
fury flamer is back baybee
fatshark takes and fatshark gives, we shall enjoy it the week it'll last
heady rapids
fatshark takes and fatshark gives, we shall enjoy it the week it'll last
yeeeeeeeeee its gonna be like patch 13 all over again
stone fern
Aaand it's bricked.
change the blessings for now
fleet zealot
stone fern
perks will be changable for free after the update
median steeple
fluffy
fleet zealot
patch 13 was fun for 2 days before every pskyer was using assail
hard nexus
change the blessings for now
keep ht, swap perk
patent patrol
change the blessings for now
sadly I don't have thrust 4. Only 3.
vast basin
patch 13 was fun for 2 days before every pskyer was using assail
You mean smite ep
hard nexus
perks will be changable for free after the update
its all gonna be changeable
sullen forge
https://tenor.com/view/south-park-its-gone-gif-4104229
W- what
stone fern
sadly I don't have thrust 4. Only 3.
thats fine you can change it later
fleet zealot
You mean smite ep
smite ep wasn't good until later
gusty orbit
patch 13 was a lot of fun for me
patch 13 chainswords with like 10 cleave was just so funny
stone fern
its all gonna be changeable
not everyone has all the blessings
fleet zealot
smite was just cc bot, boring, but assail literally wiped maps
heady rapids
patch 13 chainswords with like 10 cleave was just so funny
that one got gutted first yeeee
stone fern
putting on headtaker 4 now before you lose access to it is better
heady rapids
assail was lore accurate psyker
pallid hemlock
Assail plus Hand Cannon
vast basin
smite was just cc bot, boring, but assail literally wiped maps
No smite ep was bugged and applied to surge staff, doubling it's damage
patent patrol
thats fine you can change it later
Alright so this one's for the update.
pallid hemlock
That was cooked
heady rapids
No smite ep was bugged and applied to surge staff, doubling it's damage
YEEEESSSSSSSSS
stone fern
Alright so this one's for the update.
sweet
heady rapids
peak surge staff
fleet zealot
No smite ep was bugged and applied to surge staff, doubling it's damage
shoudl've said the surge bug lol
stone fern
atfer the crafting update maybe flak unyielding
pallid hemlock
It wasn't even that bad because people kept blowing themselves up
stone fern
or elite unyielding who knows
frosty herald
Ironhelm doesnt need flak
stone fern
Ironhelm doesnt need flak
now yes
frosty herald
You have the special for that
stone fern
but im talking about after it gets buffed
fleet zealot
but that also didn't have it's heyday yet, assail literally had to be nerfed cause one assail made low diffs a ghost town and 2 assails on high diff made it a cake walk
slender sigil
wielding speed is the same as swap speed?
median steeple
EP on launch was all kinds of fucked since they mixed up the blitzs in the code or something
infinite smite
Peak
frosty herald
wielding speed is the same as swap speed?
No
carmine wolf
crabwalking psykers were peak 40k
gusty orbit
but that also didn't have it's heyday yet, assail literally had to be nerfed cau...
it was fun seeing in reddit people that had no idea and were stuck on low diff complaining about assail being shit
frosty herald
You notice how bolter has quite a slow pullout speed
pallid hemlock
They all got carried away zapping shit, forgetting they had no peril modifiers
frosty herald
Thats faster
stone fern
if too many enemies come at you
gusty orbit
it was fun seeing in reddit people that had no idea and were stuck on low diff c...
while in damnation it made anything walking simulator lmao
pallid hemlock
Wasn't just reddit, general chat too
frosty herald
if too many enemies come at you
Dodge inside of a horde
gusty orbit
Wasn't just reddit, general chat too
wasnt in this discord at the time wouldnt be surprised either haha, and soon later erased reddit from all my devices
stone fern
look im still gonna use flak unyielding on ironhelm
hard nexus
what if there was a thammer mark that could ground slamfor an aoe explosion
that might be neat
also rashad getting buffed is insane
quaint verge
Might as well make a power foot instead 
frosty herald
what if there was a thammer mark that could ground slamfor an aoe explosion
Welcome back sm2 thammer
hard nexus
Might as well make a power foot instead <:dogesmug:1209149163523276821>
power boot
fleet zealot
i thoguht if rashad is getting buffs they are going to nerf the blessigns
fleet zealot
but no lmao
hard nexus
Welcome back sm2 thammer
i hate the sm2 thammer, it should NOT be a swarm option
pallid hemlock
wasnt in this discord at the time wouldnt be surprised either haha, and soon lat...
Gotta remember the distribution across difficulties
quaint verge
Power sneaker drip when?
hard nexus
why is darktide the only media thats gotten thammer right
frosty herald
i hate the sm2 thammer, it should NOT be a swarm option
Skill issue
median steeple
gusty orbit
its not like rashad is already the best axe with the best overhead by a longshot
hard nexus
now that overhead does more damage to more things !
pallid hemlock
Tbf the maniac adms were goofy
stone fern
rashad buffs
frosty herald
I have no issues with sm2 hammer
stone fern
i knew as soon as i saw dorn was gonna fucking die
hard nexus
Tbf the maniac adms were goofy
it was but that was the only change they made
frosty herald
And its easier to use against chaos
red swift
Heavies doing less than lights was jank though
frosty herald
Theres also different hammers
hard nexus
havent gotten to chaos yet tbh lol
frosty herald
Fast hammers high damage fencing
gusty orbit
rashad 1 shot crit against maniac ragers now? i think it came close before with like 1800 damage or so
heady rapids
rashad did not need that lmao
vast basin
Yeah you could already one hit muties with rashad
stone fern
hmmm should we just fix the rager speed or buff maniac damage for everything else
hard nexus
cant wait to get out damaged by a fresh level 30 because he just holds down one button
frosty herald
drowsy steppe
smite already does this
gusty orbit
yeah didnt remember specific numbers, uninstalled a couple months ago, waiting for the update
hard nexus
true but smite psykers usually just collapse cuz they cant play
median steeple
true but smite psykers usually just collapse cuz they cant play
gusty orbit
cant wait to get out damaged by a fresh level 30 because he just holds down one ...
it's like whack a mole, so fun it might even hurt
pallid hemlock
Smite psyker and Exec Vet who refuses to melee in same pub once
gusty orbit
Purg staff users out damaging me playing perfectly
sienna full circle
pallid hemlock
I nearly died wheezing
paper harness
Exactly
gusty orbit
sienna dying the whole map and matching my damage because potatoes
gusty orbit
Smite psyker and Exec Vet who refuses to melee in same pub once
dies to a single poxwalker
pallid hemlock
The two of them could cover each other perfectly but no
Both of them had to channel main character syndrome
hard nexus
The two of them could cover each other perfectly but no
they seperate and eat an overhead
gusty orbit
The two of them could cover each other perfectly but no
teamwork? in a horde shooter? are you fucking nuts
pallid hemlock
There was one combined overhead
opaque island
anyone else play in 3rd person for so long you've forgotten what its like to play in 1st?
hard nexus
let us get eaten while overloading to oneshot a burgle
frosty herald
Suicide psyker is a gebuine strat
ember yew
anyone else play in 3rd person for so long you've forgotten what its like to pla...
cousin okri probably
gusty orbit
5 wound psykers yay
ember yew
frosty herald
No joke wound psyker is now viable
frosty herald
opaque island
im gonna make a new psyker that only does kamikaze build
hard nexus
opaque island
called Poxburster in training
gusty orbit
im gonna make a new psyker that only does kamikaze build
called kamipsyker
ember yew
6 wounds puskers inc
hard nexus
marytrdom psyker
ember yew
gusty orbit
we gotta gaslight the community into thinking psyker explosion does more damage
its and intricate plan to make pubs worse
frosty herald
we gotta gaslight the community into thinking psyker explosion does more damage
it unironically got buffed
stone fern
its and intricate plan to make pubs worse
too bad the aoe psyker death now applies bleed, rending, brittleness, and soulblaze
frosty herald
i think its 1400 damage
hard nexus
too bad the aoe psyker death now applies bleed, rending, brittleness, and soulbl...
hunt showdown stalker beetle
stone fern
best part is out of everything in the patch notes what i said isnt that far fetched
gusty orbit
i would totally believe it as a last minute change, so it's "on par" with other things
median steeple
Vet and zealot: where the hel is the freak?
Psyker:
heady rapids
fucking lmao
gusty orbit
Vet and zealot: where the hel is the freak?
Psyker:
psykers being some fucking kamikaze sleeper agents
gotta be mindful from now on of the words we say with a freak in the match
ember yew
rocky nacelle
anyways dorn has exploded it seems from patch notes
but if TH is an indicator of them even remotely listening
this patch might not be as broken
on release
(copium)
frosty herald
Thunder hammer changes goated
rocky nacelle
yamato
median steeple
if you read gen chat (dont) strawhat is taking feedback and has made a list of feedback
rocky nacelle
you run ironhelm
stone fern
he just cant cope with the fact that im the target audience of the game now not good players like him
rocky nacelle
ill go thunderous crusher
hard nexus
if you read gen chat (dont) strawhat is taking feedback and has made a list of f...
oh pawesome
rocky nacelle
hard nexus
she should come in here
median steeple
she should come in here
she did when dorn pinged her
rocky nacelle
crusher applying thunderous to 50 poxwalkers off 1 special activate
median steeple
for like 3 messages
stone fern
ill go thunderous crusher
ill go purge and out damage both of you with two buttons
heady rapids
but if TH is an indicator of them even *remotely* listening
remotely? nah aside of them overbuffing a lot its a great changelog
rocky nacelle
but if you wanna be the dps max tism you can
gusty orbit
crusher applying thunderous to 50 poxwalkers off 1 special activate
balanced
heady rapids
a lot of shit 90% players would skip got great buffs
hard nexus
she did when dorn pinged her
oh pawesome
pallid hemlock
Taxe buffs when
gusty orbit
just enjoy the first week of this shitshow if it remotely releases as shown, patch 13 nostalgia will hit hard
rocky nacelle
heady rapids
Taxe buffs when
they did buff taxes no?
rocky nacelle
can we ban cica he is assaulting me.....
heady rapids
and gave them some funny blessings
pallid hemlock
Base numbers
median steeple
the chum machine
rocky nacelle
the chum machine
pallid hemlock
The blessings feel like a distraction
stone fern
i cant wait for the update its gonna be a mess
heady rapids
the second it drops im building a wound psyker
rocky nacelle
(i only need the blessing)
rocky nacelle
I need to roll crusher and flamer
visual stream
But I liked this tech 😢
rocky nacelle
for some goofy ahh blessings
visual stream
The changes look so cool for thammer
median steeple
I can use a real weapon
heady rapids
crusher is gonna be thammer 2 literally
gusty orbit
Base numbers
and the new guaranteed crit on weakspot crit kill or so, iirc tacaxes have brutal momemtum so fun times
visual stream
I stopped reading when I scrolled to the end of thammer changes
carmine wolf
I LOVE THE THAMMER CHSNGES
y tho
heady rapids
they did touch bolter
carmine wolf
they did
median steeple
cara
hard nexus
stagger
hard nexus
and that
heady rapids
no?
median steeple
also BP has cleave
stone fern
I need to roll crusher and flamer
get gud
paper harness
I’m going to post a very lengthy post
stone fern
good luck
carmine wolf
Hi going to post a very lengthy post
paper harness
:Sadge:
paper harness
good luck
Has to be said
Post buff flamer is leagues above what it used to be
Like what???
gusty orbit
just give the flamer 50% innate rending because it boils enemies inside the armor
carmine wolf
Maybe their hope is people won't use the knife as much now
heady rapids
they must be preparing us for crusher hordes
carmine wolf
just give the flamer 50% innate rending because it boils enemies inside the armo...
finally yesss
stone fern
they must be preparing us for crusher hordes
1 purge psyker
gusty orbit
No weapon should have rending to begin with
armor types in this game are bad, just as is
rocky nacelle
get gud
i have all t4 blessings on flamer rn
im talking the new broken ones
coming
heady rapids
remove all rending from the game, remove helmets from crushers, boom
vermintide 2
carmine wolf
But you still get guns
paper harness
Better system than killing 200 in 20 seconds
gusty orbit
remove all rending from the game, remove helmets from crushers, boom
vermintide...
exactly, well chaos warriors have super armor or such, they're not just armored
gusty orbit
but vermintide is usually way more fair with the armor
heady rapids
and the new shield cw has a belly
idk maybe that would be a good balancing decision
paper harness
They didn’t announce wide spectrum nerfs, even then, dot shouldn’t get rending
carmine wolf
I think the flamer should be anti armor, why would nurgle's children care about their flesh being charred, they are already melting with acid, armored speratists on the otherhand do not enjoy the blessings of nurgle and should be cooked alive in their thermally conductive cauldrons
so nerf unyielding and maniac and infested damage
paper harness
Why should one weapon kill everything?
paper harness
It has a power blessing and got buffed in secrets
fleet zealot
i'm pretty sure it's not even anti armor on tabletop
though i would have to check
burning away infected tissue is cauterizing
heady rapids
shoul;d've just made a melta
fleet zealot
melta being anti armor makes sense
stone fern
shoul;d've just made a melta
every weapon is melta now
carmine wolf
shoul;d've just made a melta
that would have been the ideal solution
fleet zealot
but the every day flamer should be for purging the corrupted masses
gusty orbit
I think the flamer should be anti armor, why would nurgle's children care about ...
from a logic perspective yeah sure, from gameplay, hell naw, at least the flamer is still slow to wield, im raising an eye brow even harder at the staff
paper harness
The purg staff is now a better trauma staff
carmine wolf
the staff is for psyker
heady rapids
i mean enemies like crushers are gonna be boiling alive there
carmine wolf
without it they fall over
fleet zealot
tbf, before this trauma was just a better purge
paper harness
It has both blessings
fleet zealot
carmine wolf
with it they are too good
paper harness
Soulblaze and rending
carmine wolf
there is no inbetween
fleet zealot
this is massive for both purge and flamer lol
gusty orbit
melta wen
sullen forge
The purg staff is now a better trauma staff
We’re very excited to see the tidal wave of Purgatus staff users here in a few weeks
(We’re not)
paper harness
I won’t play pubs
stone fern
Soulblaze and rending
ik shits gonna be stupid
drowsy steppe
heavy sword would be slept on on vet and psyk
paper harness
<:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> ik shits gonna be stupid
No ammo
gusty orbit
heavy sword would be slept on on vet and psyk
psyker with 100% cleave on heavy sword
paper harness
Just very easy to control peril
sullen forge
My god the way you put it like that I realized it’s sound like smite but even worse
Just click to delete everything on the map
rough galleon
Crusher getting slaughterer is nice
stone fern
sullen forge
heavy sword would be slept on on vet and psyk
I’m not sleeping on that big ass blade, already had a few theoreticals pop up that might make it busted on Vet
carmine wolf
hammer "buff" not cool
paper harness
So what do y'all think of the balance changes
All but two are shit
carmine wolf
flamer buff cool
sullen forge
Indifferent but hatred towards Plasma buffs
hard nexus
hammer "buff" not cool
why
paper harness
Reworked mobility of chaxe and better hammer
hard nexus
hammer rework is awesome
heady rapids
So what do y'all think of the balance changes
a lot of good ones but a lot of ones that def were not needede
stone fern
rending on flamer is no way as bad as fixing a bad weapon
paper harness
That’s why
sullen forge
Opinions on Taxe blessings though Dorn
hard nexus
Because it can’t ruin monster maelstroms anymore
ah
paper harness
Infinite dodges = no
sullen forge
You’re like the only other high hour player that likes using them
sullen forge
Infinite dodges = no
Yeah I instantly noticed that was going to be an issue
elfin steppe
They are finally buffing THammer
drowsy steppe
Because it can’t ruin monster maelstroms anymore
how does it ruin monsters though
when everything else already ruins it
hard nexus
true!
carmine wolf
why
I have religiously used it for 600 hours with 50 hp on auric damnation and rarely ever died, it is more than usable. If an idiot like me can use it all the gigachads can too. It is not worth losing the one thing the thunder hammers are good at
sullen forge
Taxe is great at dodging already it really doesn’t need it but I mean the idea is cool
paper harness
how does it ruin monsters though
One shots
drowsy steppe
ok but other melees can 2 shot weakened ones
visual stream
@spare talon Does this make you happy or sad
drowsy steppe
I dont see the argument here
carmine wolf
convenience should not get rid of the one reason to use the damned weapons
gusty orbit
how does it ruin monsters though
people dont even play thammer, and will only play them a bit after the update
stone fern
chaxes and evis dont one shot monsters
paper harness
Because one shotting bosses is bad
hard nexus
chaxes and evis dont one shot monsters
i outdamaged yam with a mk15 in a monstro
carmine wolf
people dont even play thammer, and will only play them a bit after the update
Agreed and then realise it's still a hammer and go back to knife
hard nexus
mk15 almost can oneshot weakened bosses
fleet zealot
everyone should at least be able to shoot a few rounds or swing some swings into a boss before it dies
it's better for the gameplay loop overall
gusty orbit
it's a problem when a zealot does it, but not when the coordinated team of terminators kill the boss in the same time
fiery goblet
I like a lot of the changes
But why the fuck DID THEY BUFF THE PLASMA GUN
stone fern
i outdamaged yam with a mk15 in a monstro
thats saying more about him tho
fleet zealot
plus it's not like thudnerhammer CAN't hadnle a daemonhost at all now
hard nexus
mk15 almost can oneshot weakened bosses
with a slightly different build i can one shot weakend plague ogryns and chaos spawns with a 15
paper harness
plus it's not like thudnerhammer CAN't hadnle a daemonhost at all now
Just break the ai
paper harness
Walk around solid walls
fiery goblet
God
carmine wolf
plus it's not like thudnerhammer CAN't hadnle a daemonhost at all now
Yes but it isn't as cool as it used to be also going from 5 to 3 in exchange for a .5 is not a fair trade
gusty orbit
Agreed and then realise it's still a hammer and go back to knife
yeah basically, hopinh for the day knife and revolver zealots arent the only thing seen on auric
drowsy steppe
weakened bosses I can see the argument but they are there as a pseudo elite enemy over being an actual boss enemy
hard nexus
psuedo
paper harness
I almost never see knife zealots on auric
hard nexus
same
gusty orbit
I almost never see knife zealots on auric
i almost exclusively see knife zealots, if its not that, its crusher
carmine wolf
yeah basically, hopinh for the day knife and revolver zealots arent the only thi...
I am the only hammer I've seen on auric and this change will make me not use a hammer in there cause everyone else can do the same thing the hammers will do
visual stream
sullen forge
I like a lot of the changes
But why the fuck DID THEY BUFF THE PLASMA GUN
Reddit nation
heady rapids
hehe
visual stream
It needed it.
paper harness
i almost exclusively see knife zealots, if its not that, its crusher
Two op weapons
fleet zealot
forum nations
visual stream
gusty orbit
I am the only hammer I've seen on auric and this change will make me not use a h...
i so rarely see a hammer that it's negligible, im a hammer user too, but maybe 1-2 every 70 hours idk
sullen forge
forum nations
Reddit nation rise, we won
paper harness
If the social groups is host kick we gaming
visual stream
Buff smyte next so I can smyte my smyker all over the place
fiery goblet
Reddit nation
Reddit hated the plasma gun also. Everyone agreed that it was too OP
How did it get buffed
nimble fiber
carmine wolf
Reddit hated the plasma gun also. Everyone agreed that it was too OP
How did it...
to make vets feel like psykers
sullen forge
Fantastic question
hard nexus
reddit, assemble
paper harness
I’ll tell you why
heady rapids
what did they do to plasma again
sullen forge
to make vets feel like psykers
I DONT WANT TO FEEL LIKE A WITCH
paper harness
Because FatShark doesn’t want to remove the op left click
sullen forge
this is why I firmly use the HHAs
fleet zealot
they defeated the elitistic private discorders
fiery goblet
what did they do to plasma again
Buffed it
carmine wolf
Hate the idea every weapon needs to be a general use, you have other parts to your kit and other people in your squad specifically so you can overcome your differences in a co op game
gusty orbit
why censor it when it's right there in the forum, i saw that comment and burst out laughing hard
gusty orbit
Hate the idea every weapon needs to be a general use, you have other parts to yo...
i dont mind that in say vermintide, i dont know whats so different in darktide that being a generalist tends to be way way way way way better
north sedge
hammer's still gonna do a ton of boss dmg
median steeple
I started to lose my shit everytime I saw that objective
north sedge
just not fucking insane
elfin steppe
They are going to give power sword thrust.
fleet zealot
hammer's still gonna do a ton of boss dmg
it's dead /joke
stone fern
i love how everything in zealots kit got nerfed except marty
gusty orbit
hammer's still gonna do a ton of boss dmg
we'll have to see, but if the multiplier works like at face value it's almost 50% lost damage
sullen forge
They are going to give power sword thrust.<:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Why is all I ask
drowsy steppe
i dont mind that in say vermintide, i dont know whats so different in darktide t...
because stuff like rending that makes non armor piercing weapons being able to do just that
stone fern
https://tenor.com/view/we-did-it-reddit-reddit-car-fail-accident-gif-16905624
WE DID IT REDDIT
carmine wolf
hammer's still gonna do a ton of boss dmg
That's not the point though, alot of other things do ton of boss dmg, knife 2 shots a boss. The point is the hammer was the best at doing boss dmg
hard nexus
I started to lose my shit everytime I saw that objective
LMFAO
fleet zealot
also, fotf still helps a ton
median steeple
unless they buff the weakened bosses they're still gonna get one shot
the thammer changes will do nothing to them at least
drowsy steppe
because stuff like rending that makes non armor piercing weapons being able to d...
scratch that. It IS because of rending
solar gorge
WE DID IT REDDIT
"only buffs, no nerfs"
median steeple
true !
hard nexus
please !
visual stream
They are going to give power sword thrust.<:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
I saw this too
hard nexus
pleaseee !
paper harness
No
visual stream
Like
stone fern
also, fotf still helps a ton
whats fotf is that like a weird old name for chastise
hard nexus
and buff some weapon's innate ADMs
elfin steppe
Yeah,fk zealot,we play vet
paper harness
You don’t even need rending on the ds4
nimble fiber
chocolate milk is very good
visual stream
We were given ONE meta to be free of psword being the top pick
north sedge
fotf is the new name
visual stream
ONE
carmine wolf
Yeah,fk zealot,we play vet
said everyone since day 1
stone fern
"only buffs, no nerfs"
You hit the skys ill hit the ground arrowhead vs fatshark
gusty orbit
because stuff like rending that makes non armor piercing weapons being able to d...
i mean also with specialists and other stuff, i just guess that is due to the sheer amount of enemies here, being like 3-5 times more than in vermintide depending on the map
hard nexus
You don’t even need rending on the ds4
just realized how stupid crit ds4 is gonna be, i didnt even think about that
stone fern
THRUST ON EVERYTHING
paper harness
that hits the breakpoint
stone fern
DEIMOS WITH THRUST
CRUSHER WITH THRUST
median steeple
rise and shine thrust nation
stone fern
POWER SWORD WITH THRUST
solar gorge
You hit the skys ill hit the ground arrowhead vs fatshark
2 good games getting strangled by reddit, when will the massacre end...
elfin steppe
Also what is the opportunist blessing?
median steeple
rending
visual stream
Scrier's with deimos perhaps???
hard nexus
psyker hordeclear might be actually good with the 100% cleave
median steeple
yes
stone fern
Also what is the opportunist blessing?
something from shock maul
red swift
If zealot doesn’t get changes like psyker did im just going to main psyker
heady rapids
I'm excited to make a melee psyker build unironically
psyker melee was already a thing
tbh
visual stream
Well yeah but even more
heady rapids
ye
heady rapids
If zealot doesn’t get changes like psyker did im just going to main psyker
zealot is DEAD now
median steeple
Scrier's with deimos perhaps???
yes you can finally use warp weapon loadout with scriers without having to edge
hard nexus
Also what is the opportunist blessing?
rending, but its nearly worthless on the shock maul, as the shock maul has a really high innate carapace damage
90%
ish
red swift
They said psyker was the class they worked on first, so all other classes are probably going to get big changes too
I hope
gusty orbit
zealot is DEAD now
even better, it's a walking husk of it's former being
elfin steppe
Well, I'm definitely not gonna put it on Evi.
carmine wolf
They said psyker was the class they worked on first, so all other classes are pr...
Well zealot did get a few buffs he can cosplay a worse vet now
paper harness
Kill psykers
visual stream
They buffed a decent amount of the range-oriented zealot talents
gusty orbit
they should nerf martyrdom right about now, so my favorite class is even more memetic
heady rapids
They buffed a decent amount of the range-oriented zealot talents
well the buffs arent really significant tbh
red swift
Buff martyr like they did piety and revert the nerf on IJ
carmine wolf
they should nerf martyrdom right about now, so my favorite class is even more me...
they actually buffed his toughness dmg reduction
red swift
I’d be happy
solar gorge
can't wait to have every match plagued by a purgatus psyker the 28th
stable cradle
Just wondering, am I missing something with Martyr's purpose or was it changed recently?
hard nexus
Just wondering, am I missing something with Martyr's purpose or was it changed r...
is that cdr on takingf damage
stable cradle
Or does it still work based on health damage
gusty orbit
Just wondering, am I missing something with Martyr's purpose or was it changed r...
hasn't changed as far as im aware, just a copypasta of zealot from vermintide
visual stream
I wonder why they didn't change M'S P
stone fern
it gives you one ult every time you use a healing station
stable cradle
I was just confused since it wasnt looked at in the patch so I was wondering if I was doing something wrong
hard nexus
if damage for it counted up during until death itd be better
visual stream
Maybe they're as confused as we are what we're supposed to do about it
hard nexus
but it does not
carmine wolf
let's all bully fatshark to remove the unyielding nerf on the hammer and keep the buffs
visual stream
It could at least be a shitty meme but it's just shitty
stone fern
let's all bully fatshark to remove the unyielding nerf on the hammer and keep th...
no
its fine
carmine wolf
it is not fine
stone fern
its fine
carmine wolf
not even close to fine
stone fern
it shouldnt one shot bosses
gusty orbit
i dont know exactly how i feel about darktide's nodes after losing myself two weeks in vermintide and mastering many careers
carmine wolf
it is just another reason to use the knife now
stone fern
itll still do a lot of damage
paper harness
let's all bully fatshark to remove the unyielding nerf on the hammer and keep th...
Go play on malice
carmine wolf
everything does a lot of damage
visual stream
I'll have to play with it but it should still do pretty good damage on headshots
stone fern
itll prolly still one shot weakened monster but not normal ones
paper harness
The difficulty you actually want
carmine wolf
the point was it was the best
stone fern
2x is still a lot
gusty orbit
let's all bully fatshark to remove the unyielding nerf on the hammer and keep th...
multiaccounts on reddit and spam ftw
carmine wolf
The difficulty you actually want
mate I've played with you and carried your arse on maelstroms over and over
red swift
Meanwhile precog combat blade
carmine wolf
you've done the same to me
visual stream
Wait hold on actually yeah I am pressed about thammer nerf because knife is unhealthy but that didn't get touched (yet) 
carmine wolf
let's not act we don't know what we are talking about
stone fern
reducing boss and increasing carapace and normal heavy is a good move
visual stream
Weapon is dead /j
stone fern
the iornhelm changes are good
elfin steppe
What is the abumscade?
stone fern
and i am saying that as someone who cheeses maelstrom with it
median steeple
Wait hold on actually yeah I am pressed about thammer nerf because knife is unhe...
neither knife or revolver were touched
we lost
red mesa
is dueling sword gonna be more broken on zealot or vet?
I feel like maybe vet with the full weakpoint + dmg stacking build.
median steeple
it's so over
hard nexus
What is the abumscade?
ranged backstab damage
visual stream
is dueling sword gonna be more broken on zealot or vet?
I feel like maybe vet w...
Debatable, I think vet
elfin steppe
ranged backstab damage
carmine wolf
is dueling sword gonna be more broken on zealot or vet?
I feel like maybe vet w...
zealot I hope, saltzpyre needs to look cool
gusty orbit
is dueling sword gonna be more broken on zealot or vet?
I feel like maybe vet w...
zealot due to being in the fray of battle easily
elfin steppe
And they are nerfing restoring faith
paper harness
mate I've played with you and carried your arse on maelstroms over and over
That has never happened, I do not play with thunder hammer users
visual stream
zealot due to being in the fray of battle easily
Vet is also in the fray of battle extremely easily
Iron will moment
VoC moment
carmine wolf
That has never happened, I do not play with thunder hammer users
Clearly
gusty orbit
Vet is also in the fray of battle extremely easily
the select few veterans i've seen with balls of steel like that can, not super usual though
carmine wolf
That has never happened, I do not play with thunder hammer users
I do remember you crying because I 1 shot the bosses before you could say Hi to them and then proceed to delete them yourself
hard nexus
the select few veterans i've seen with balls of steel like that can, not super u...
just needs someone who knows how to melee, not even particularly brave
drowsy steppe
I do remember you crying because I 1 shot the bosses before you could say Hi to ...
cease
carmine wolf
because me doing it as a zealot is wrong
paper harness
carmine wolf
everyone else does it perfectly ok
visual stream
the select few veterans i've seen with balls of steel like that can, not super u...
I honestly see not a lot of either class being competent enough in melee to get silly
gusty orbit
I do remember you crying because I 1 shot the bosses before you could say Hi to ...
oh so that explains why he said that 1 shot is unhealthy, a good measure of main character syndrome
hard nexus
interesting must have been another dorn well regardless
none of his characters are named dorn
carmine wolf
none of his characters are named dorn
name on discord was dorn
gusty orbit
everyone else does it perfectly ok
yeah ogryn kickback + veteran plasma is not unhealthy at all, like not even a bit
carmine wolf
I don't remember numbers
hard nexus
theres like 6 dorns in the discord
rocky nacelle
north sedge
and one shotting bosses is unhealthy, bosses might as well be poxwalkers most of the time
carmine wolf
how unexpected on a 40k server
smoky pewter
and one shotting bosses is unhealthy, bosses might as well be poxwalkers most of...
Forget your 'unhealthy' - it's offset by the spectacle of it
hard nexus
https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-5305267
hi para
rocky nacelle
hi meow
carmine wolf
my apologies to @paper harness for confusing them for another dorn
paper harness
I have left every thunder hammer lobby on a I-II for months
rocky nacelle
r u enjoying this
hard nexus
yes
rocky nacelle
nice
median steeple
Bro that's hilarious
hard nexus
its great for procrastinating
north sedge
Forget your 'unhealthy' - it's offset by the spectacle of it
what spectacle
rocky nacelle
hella fun
hard nexus
idk if ill be able to sm2 today
rocky nacelle
i put cica in the chum bucket
paper harness
no thammers, no meta whores
median steeple
fucking SIGH
hard nexus
wont be for a while at least
carmine wolf
what spectacle
Nothing is more fun than destroying demonhosts that 1 shot space marines, makes you feel human
drowsy steppe
personally I find leaving lobbies because of certain weapons silly but Im not here to preach why thats a bad thing
median steeple
I can't play without you guys since Im stuck in an area that can't access the PvE and PvP
and there is story stuff
hard nexus
personally I find leaving lobbies because of certain weapons silly but Im not he...
i havent ever left a lobby due to player levels or weapons or builds
i dont get why people do
median steeple
ego
gusty orbit
personally I find leaving lobbies because of certain weapons silly but Im not he...
i mean if someone already does that you can't convince them of anything at that point
north sedge
to be clear, i mostly have played hammer and the spectacle faded after the first couple times, bosses should get to live more than 3 seconds
stone fern
i dont get why people do
because i dont wanna play a game ill hate for 40 minutes
paper harness
Clad gets it
heady rapids
chat i dont wanna read all that can someone tell me who is right in this convo
carmine wolf
to be clear, i mostly have played hammer and the spectacle faded after the first...
they don't though
hard nexus
because i dont wanna play a game ill hate for 40 minutes
never had a game i hated due to other players
gusty orbit
Nothing is more fun than destroying demonhosts that 1 shot space marines, makes ...
and everyone in the lobby just looking at each other like ._.
stone fern
i used to leave recon games before it got buffed
drowsy steppe
weakened bosses getting 1 shotted is normal considering other weapons can delete it almost as quick
I just dont want normal bosses to be 1 shotted
stone fern
the goal of the game is to havea fun
carmine wolf
to be clear, i mostly have played hammer and the spectacle faded after the first...
people ignore the boss deal with horde then turn around and delete it
north sedge
what
hard nexus
chat i dont wanna read all that can someone tell me who is right in this convo
each has points but zealot chat lends itself to people being immature
north sedge
what dumbasses are you playing with
stone fern
if you want an easier/harder time do whats more fun for you
rocky nacelle
no it was twice
heady rapids
each has points but zealot chat lends itself to people being immature
femboys at it again huh
hard nexus
i pushed a burster into you once but that didnt kill you
paper harness
This is the build i used on that game, fun
stone fern
either stay on the meta lobby or leave it its up to what you want
hard nexus
you tknifed the 2nd one when I went to shove it
erm i dont believe you
you are insane
gusty orbit
because i dont wanna play a game ill hate for 40 minutes
i only do that on specific comps, i play zealot, i dont want to play with 2 other zealots, or 3 ogryns, self explanatory
rocky nacelle
cica literally saw it lmfao
drowsy steppe
thammer has been out of the meta for a while
carmine wolf
This is the build i used on that game, fun
An interesting build, not a common one.
hard nexus
either stay on the meta lobby or leave it its up to what you want
against meta lobbies i usually just outpace them and out damage them anyway
rocky nacelle
smh meow gaslighting once again
drowsy steppe
survivalist vets is still meta on no ammo maelstroms
rocky nacelle
i go back to playing martyr
carmine wolf
thammer has been out of the meta for a while
When was it ever meta? when was anything but the knife ever meta
paper harness
Thammer one shooting bosses, smykers disabling AI and plasma killing the horde and the crusher packs
carmine wolf
maybe eviscerators?
paper harness
That's why I leave
hard nexus
When was it ever meta? when was anything but the knife ever meta
it was kind of meta back when thrust was bugged into 50% per stack
stone fern
Thammer one shooting bosses, smykers disabling AI and plasma killing the horde a...
suddenly kickback isnt so bad huh
hard nexus
other than that it never really was
carmine wolf
it was kind of meta back when thrust was bugged into 50% per stack
oh yeah forgot that lol
paper harness
Honestlu
carmine wolf
damn good times
paper harness
under level 30 players may become my new best friends
hard nexus
sherpa
stone fern
WOW
gusty orbit
thammer has been out of the meta for a while
it was never meta, and that's coming from me that has played most of my zealot time with hammer just because i like the thing like that
drowsy steppe
When was it ever meta? when was anything but the knife ever meta
when it can 1 shot maulers and crushers reliably
carmine wolf
under level 30 players may become my new best friends
good for you helping the little guys
stone fern
@paper harness if we're ever in the same lobby ill let you change one of my weapons deal?
carmine wolf
when it can 1 shot maulers and crushers reliably
Yes exactly, it can already do that. Why are we buffing carapace as an excuse to nerf unyielding???
stone fern
to whatever you want
drowsy steppe
thats way beyond the topic of the convo
stone fern
i started playing them as of yesterday 😭
paper harness
I was fucking dying and still damage mogged on a taxe
drowsy steppe
and I never mentioned anything about carapace or unyiel
stone fern
ill never play hunting grounds tho
stone fern
fuck the pox burster tonga line
carmine wolf
thats way beyond the topic of the convo
Fair enough, I am simply projecting my confusion and distaste for the new 'buff'
smoky pewter
Fair enough, I am simply projecting my confusion and distaste for the new 'buff'
I'm with you brother. I'd take status quo over the thammer changes.
north sedge
it's getting buffed in every way and small nerf on boss dmg, that's kinda how weapon balance works
carmine wolf
the hammers are frustrating to use at times yes, and these buffs will make them much less so, cool. The dramatic stun reduction might even overdo it a touch. But why are we making the hammers more user friendly in exchange for getting rid of the one cool thing it does.
undone pewter
This is the build i used on that game, fun
What mod let's you see the curios as what they are? Like 21% health etc
obtuse solstice
wait did they fucking buff rashad
carmine wolf
it's getting buffed in every way and small nerf on boss dmg, that's kinda how we...
5.0 to 3.0 is not a small nerf
paper harness
What mod let's you see the curios as what they are? Like 21% health etc
They are renamed
carmine wolf
specially not when dealing with numbers of over 40k
undone pewter
They are renamed
I have no idea why I didn't think of that.
gusty orbit
the hammers are frustrating to use at times yes, and these buffs will make them ...
Because normies don't care about learning to use a weapon I guess, and well, since cdr abuse was gone it also became even worse for me, still the cc kept me safe most of the time
undone pewter
wait did they fucking buff rashad
Rashad Mk II Combat Axe / Antax Mk V Combat Axe
Significantly improved the damage and stagger against Maniac enemies for all Heavy attacks.
Armor damage modifier vs Maniac from 0.5 to 1
Armor impact modifier vs Maniac from 0.5 to 0.75.
Dev Note: The Heavy attacks of the Combat Axes were unfairly penalized against Maniac type enemies, to the point where it was often preferable to use Light attacks instead.
carmine wolf
the hammers are frustrating to use at times yes, and these buffs will make them ...
I'd far rather slightly less of all of these buffs and preserve the only reason anyone has ever bothered looking at the weapons
stone fern
mfw dorn thought rashad was gonna get nerfed
full loom
Anyone up to help me and a friend out with "Just a Flesh Wound"?
stone fern
mfw dorn gaslite me into playing nothing but rashad in fears that it was gonna get nerfed
paper harness
BM should have been
carmine wolf
Anyone up to help me and a friend out with "Just a Flesh Wound"?
might do, it's a nightmare of an achievement
obtuse solstice
crazy
paper harness
FatShark Smoking crach
undone pewter
They should knock bm down yeah
carmine wolf
Anyone up to help me and a friend out with "Just a Flesh Wound"?
code is in the name, send an fr let's get you a flesh wound
undone pewter
Isn't that only on heavy swords
stone fern
i dont even know anymore man
frozen glen
bm doesn't get rending
full loom
code is in the name, send an fr let's get you a flesh wound
thanks\
stone fern
wouldnt suprise me
frozen glen
its just a new blessing with the same initials
stone fern
fuck it put rending on braced auto guns
gusty orbit
too bad BM gets rending now
Just give it 100% rending and extra power per head butchered
obtuse solstice
dueling sword on zealot
ember yew
bald momentum
north sedge
"The Other BM!"
undone pewter
We can call it bald momentum
gusty orbit
Baffled momentum
stone fern
gonna fucking rip a massive BM rn
full loom
code is in the name, send an fr let's get you a flesh wound
You should have gotten one
obtuse solstice
these changes are crazy ngl
stone fern
OH yah thats the stuff
visual stream
the hammers are frustrating to use at times yes, and these buffs will make them ...
Idk about crucis but I like smashing through 40 trash at once
sullen forge
BaldM
stone fern
i gotta build a crucis now too
faint vapor
these changes are crazy ngl
You think this is crazy? You haven't even seen the rager buffs 😎
ember yew
im interested in uncanny 50% on heavy sword
carmine wolf
never died swinging my hammer, doesn't matter how long it takes them to die they can't kill you if they are on the floor
stone fern
i am intested in 120% rending purge
carmine wolf
perfectly fine as is
carmine wolf
the buffs are not worth losing it's character
undone pewter
I thought it was 60 on flamer
stone fern
bro trust me thammer is gonna be fine
faint vapor
the buffs are not worth losing it's character
They should have doubled the single target damage
ember yew
i am intested in 120% rending purge
imagine if that rending buffs assail
sullen forge
im interested in uncanny 50% on heavy sword
Did I miss them giving uncanny to heavy swords or someth- oh you mean Bladed
stone fern
the changes are good
faint vapor
Double down instead
frozen glen
idk the thammer changes seem fine to me
a boss living at most 5 seconds gets boring each game
carmine wolf
They should have doubled the single target damage
Hell yeah lol
sullen forge
Technically 60% rending if you’re playing Veteran and use Rending Strikes
red mesa
idk the thammer changes seem fine to me
no wayyyyyy this looks amazing lol
TH BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
stone fern
imagine if that rending buffs assail
i 100% bet they forget to disable rending on assail with the new rending blessings
ember yew
gusty orbit
I don't care about this game that much now to be remotely mad at anything, I'll reinstall and if I don't like the stuff I'll just play any other horde shooter
carmine wolf
a boss living at most 5 seconds gets boring each game
I can name several other builds that can kill it under 5 seconds
visual stream
Idk how ADMs add to the equation but I would guess crucis can have a semi easy one shot on crushers again
frozen glen
then the thammer never had an identity in the first place
stone fern
I can name several other builds that can kill it under 5 seconds
its fine itll still do a lot of damage to bosses
north sedge
and they should be removed
carmine wolf
just because zealot silently charges up his attack for 5 seconds and you only notice it die after that doesn't mean he kills it too quick
visual stream
Ironhelm will probably one shot maulers more easily now which is neat
stone fern
you have to do 2 attacks now instead of one
wowowowo
its fine ironhelm is fine
actually its better now
more engaging
carmine wolf
you have to do 2 attacks now instead of one
it's more like 4 or 5 in damnation instead of 2
visual stream
The self stun will be gloriously non-existent
north sedge
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