zealot-class

[median steeple]

They're too small to be ogs

[hard nexus]

they’re just hyper roided people

[median steeple]

We have mutated fucked up ogs already

Plauge ogryns

[spare talon]

As always
Flash back to when I was told to stay the fuck away from auric cuz I disagreed with tanner and thought uncanny strike was BiS on vet knife

[hard nexus]

stay out of my aurics

[spare talon]

With mercy killer

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-angry-scare-gif-5183071

[median steeple]

Wolp

[opal star]

personally I'd stay the fuck away from auric bc I want to be happy

[hard nexus]

no that’s wolf

this is wolp

[paper pine]

Rashad is weakest against ragers and monstrosities so parry would make it fking insane

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-wolves-wilderness-wild-wolf-snow-gif-5611738

[frosty herald]

tanner cannot handle critisism

he will turn to dust

[hard nexus]

i think i could get tanner to explode in a conversation with him

[frosty herald]

he gets very very heated

so you could probably get him to make an entire video on you

[rocky nacelle]

cole i need you

to spread new propaganda

[median steeple]

Zealot chat is now the ministry of truth

[frosty herald]

THIS MF STEALING MY FLOW BAR FOR BAR

[median steeple]

Go and produce propaganda

[rocky nacelle]

i did it better

[spare talon]

Oh even better when he told me that he'll be bringing good curios (no gunner resist) and not getting shot to death (by using suppression) unlike me

[spare talon]

No

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-ağlamak-gif-24074756

[median steeple]

Bro thinks he's playing rainbow

[rocky nacelle]

you wouldnt get it....................................

[spare talon]

I'm not falling for executor unless it works like uncanny stacks do

[frosty herald]

mf discovers the executor bleed bug and dickrides it

[rocky nacelle]

it doesnt even stack on weakspot bleed.......

but it does buff bleed

[frosty herald]

your a liar

[rocky nacelle]

i checked

[frosty herald]

fuck

its fixed then

[rocky nacelle]

i chastise'd into a crushers head

[hard nexus]

i am a master shitter

[rocky nacelle]

specifically to check

[frosty herald]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859166116924358676/1153070392278261881/FdZ9sijaMAACMMN.gif

[hard nexus]

i could make his head explode

[spare talon]

Was it stacking from bleed ticks procced from a head hit before?

[hard nexus]

beams this into ur brain with psychic beam

[frosty herald]

yup

[spare talon]

That's fucking dumb

[rocky nacelle]

now it just makes uncanny / scourge even dumber

[frosty herald]

i discovered it last year and never heard anyone talk about it

[spare talon]

But it's still only 36% I think power

[frosty herald]

until now...

[rocky nacelle]

anyways anything you chastise can give you an immediate executor 3 stack

[spare talon]

Which isn't enough to make me swap

[rocky nacelle]

im just saying u should try it cause im running it with scourge/enduring faith

pretty crazy shit

[spare talon]

Cuz previously the stacks were dropping with any bleed damage

So people ignored it basically forever

[rocky nacelle]

nah the only counter intuitive part of the build i run

chastise drops executor stacks

but i came up with a self solution for that so its all g

[still quartz]

Just remembered I have this abomination of a Kantrael Shotgun

Hmm yes Bleed + Fire that'll do it good

[rocky nacelle]

sad times

(you should try something like this)

[still quartz]

I do that on Lawbringer

[rocky nacelle]

my knives when it wants to stop men

🛑

[obsidian ore]

uncanny strike is bis on combat blade tho lmao, tanner's take is not valid on that imo

[rocky nacelle]

but this mk6 build im running is super fun

[spare talon]

I think the only case is not best in slot and on par with another combination is piety zealot with precog/riposte

[obsidian ore]

yknow I'm a big fan of uncanny lacerate lmao, but I agree, precog riposte is quite fun for crit setups

[rocky nacelle]

uncanny executor

forbidden scrolls

[obsidian ore]

I also like uncanny riposte / uncanny precog for martyr zealot

[spare talon]

The crit adms with near 100% uptime with the precog/duellist damage makes uncanny irrelevant in that setup tbh

[obsidian ore]

that's true, i agree

[spare talon]

I love every argument against uncanny being "but you have to stack it first!" As if you would need to do so for every enemy in the game

[obsidian ore]

I generally go IJ for zealot, unc lacerate is really good for that setup in particular

[spare talon]

And like it won't last the entire engagement if you have a brain

[rocky nacelle]

its just too situational........

[obsidian ore]

flesh tearer uncanny is also great on piety setups

[spare talon]

Do you really think a vet will have the same uptime on uncanny as a zealot??

[obsidian ore]

i think it was irony

[spare talon]

We both are

[obsidian ore]

ah shit lmao

[spare talon]

Mine is a quote from a tanner stan

Who referred to me and another guy as "uncanny defenders"

[obsidian ore]

that goes hard as fuck aint gonna lie

[still quartz]

Ehehe pokey stick

[obsidian ore]

uncanny defenders - the guild

[fleet zealot]

this will never not be funny asf

[still quartz]

Wait I thought 20% Damage Res vs Gunners is still meta for Curios

[obsidian ore]

lmao, so uncanny doesn't last %90+ of the game? wtf

[still quartz]

What changed

[spare talon]

It is

[still quartz]

Oh kek

[spare talon]

They just heard tanner say it was bad once

And show a video showing how effective it is to prove it

[still quartz]

https://tenor.com/I1bz.gif

[fleet zealot]

if tanner told them to walk off a bridge i think some of them will do it

[spare talon]

It's absolutely insane

[obsidian ore]

tanner's a good player, but just taking everything a good players say for granted is well

[spare talon]

That's what I said

[rocky nacelle]

Stay TF away from Auric.

https://tenor.com/view/how-you-felt-how-they-felt-devil-dog-dog-mask-dog-in-mask-gif-23467335

[spare talon]

And that was the response

[frosty herald]

the crit damage one is funny cause it only aplies on crit damage and not the full damage of the hit

[obsidian ore]

even I have bad takes sometimes, opinions do evolve over time, i don't understand why people don't experiment with this on their own to make their own judgement on a build lmao

[spare talon]

Tanner viewers:

[rocky nacelle]

me

[obsidian ore]

first gray damnation? bro we fucking did that back when the game was newly released lmao

what is that about

yeah exactly

[hard nexus]

he takes the game too seriously in a weird way

he acts like it’s valorant

i just

[fleet zealot]

tldr mechanical skill doesn't always mean you know how the game works or what is the objectively best thing

[hard nexus]

can’t get over how he did that analysis of a true duo maelstrom

and how he talked about it

[spare talon]

This was another thing brought up when that original thread was going on
Like I personally think purge the unclean is overrated, which is a generally unpopular opinion

[obsidian ore]

the hardest class to true solo I-II-V-E-G in my opinion. The dodges make it painful

[spare talon]

But at least it's not wildly fucking insane

[obsidian ore]

I did win a couple of times when rumbler could actually deal boss dps well, lately haven't played oggy in true solos

[hard nexus]

that’s the 20% damage against unyielding and infested right

[obsidian ore]

I might do a run with gun lugger pickaxe ogryn

that could make it happen

[hard nexus]

i never go out of my way to take it

[frosty herald]

i would suggest grenade gauntlet pickaxe

[spare talon]

I consistently have miserable games in auric on ogryn
I swap to normal board and it's a cake walk
It's genuinely frustrating

[frosty herald]

the pickaxe pull is very strong

[obsidian prairie]

You have all the ammo to yourself after all

[frosty herald]

since its a guaranteed knockdown

[obsidian ore]

i sometimes skip on purge the unclean, I value twbs more than that skill, not being staggered by fire and bombs is goated

[spare talon]

Exactly this

[rocky nacelle]

executor 4 time

[hard nexus]

purge the unclean is just, not worth it

imo

if i can’t reach a BP without it

[obsidian ore]

purge the unclean is very decent when you are doing ilvegs tho

[hard nexus]

i don’t run knife anymore lol

[obsidian ore]

yes imo you should always try to take anoint

[spare talon]

I rarely even take annoint cuz typically I'm not even using my gun
I think the only real noticeable difference when I've run it is knifes killing trappers to the body

I typically always want one other talent just a little more

[hard nexus]

oh

annoint

not

purge

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1279306311347081328/Darktide_replay_2024.08.31-00.05_-_Trim.mp4?ex=66d5f098&is=66d49f18&hm=69bb82969495afb6bb14127e9d6f04014f8ac1681122af8226f8e598c5452fad&

[hard nexus]

i reach rager one shot without it

[obsidian ore]

we can do some duos with someone here if anybodys interested, im on eu tho

[hard nexus]

dreg rager

[spare talon]

I wasn't rezzed after this ofc

[frosty herald]

i cant get the corovian to work

weird pickaxe

[obsidian ore]

need to get warmed up on pick before I do solos

[rocky nacelle]

direct upgrade just dropped

[obsidian ore]

Mine is like Karsolas >>> Branx = Borovian

[frosty herald]

aint no fucking way

[spare talon]

Itemization comes out in 25 days
Why are you doing this

[frosty herald]

branx and karsolas are equal

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/goro-majima-goro-majima-crazy-yakuza-gif-8041278435667108236

[still quartz]

Who was simping for Argenta again

[still quartz]

Look who I found

[frosty herald]

i have a branx that from a special light heavy cycles a crusher

[obsidian ore]

branx is better at boss dps but karsolas kills everything much faster

[rocky nacelle]

because I can

just proving my luck is raw forcing rng to bend to my will

[frosty herald]

branx does so much damage on a torment heavy strikedown swing

[obsidian ore]

HH stacks + 5 HT SL stacks + 25% carapace two heavy attack kills crushers

and one taps from pull heavy

[frosty herald]

excuse me what

[obsidian ore]

headtaker and HH stacks

• carapace probably

[obsidian prairie]

I ground up a psyker for Manstopper

[frosty herald]

hmm

back to karsolas it is

[obsidian ore]

azreal, do you mind recording a video

[obsidian prairie]

Didn’t take to long to find it after but oh my god I forgot how bad leveling is

[obsidian ore]

25% carapace with max headtaker slaughterer stacks

just double tap a crusher with regular heavies

HH build

yes

my computer has issues with recording so can't do it rn

[hard nexus]

is that with torment or only the HT stacks active

[frosty herald]

you need max stacks for these kills right?

[naive parrot]

psyker is the only one I am legitimately not having fun with

I havent even got my psyker to 30 yet

I am putting it off

[frosty herald]

ill stick to torment

[obsidian prairie]

Assail is the easy way

[frosty herald]

good blessing and nice to use

[obsidian ore]

slaughterer headtaker is really goated for karsolas

[obsidian prairie]

Assail, voidstrike, and Deimos

[obsidian ore]

you two tap crushers with 2 regular heavy swipes, not even overheads

[spare talon]

Assail is easy and fun for leveling and high end play

[frosty herald]

ngl i got shit on as a psyker

[obsidian prairie]

Bowling for density, assail for melee weaving and elite clusters, Deimos for melee weaving and elite poping

[frosty herald]

my survivability dont exist

[obsidian ore]

kinda dead one unfortunately, you can fix it in crafting udpate

[hard nexus]

i played with that guy yesterday i think

[grizzled aspen]

I actually have an easier time surviving as psyker than any other class.

[obsidian ore]

interesting, I think mine is zealot. I need to make a conscious effort to die with zealot

[grizzled aspen]

Resource management and an "infinite ammo" blitz just click right in my head.

[frosty herald]

vet is my strongest

[obsidian ore]

or do a big misplay

[grizzled aspen]

With zealout I really just forget I have a gun.

And vet... I feel a little finicky about.

[obsidian ore]

melee vet is really good at sustaining

lost of toughness with lots of toughness replenishment

[frosty herald]

yeah i run melee vet exclusively

[grizzled aspen]

I mainly run a rashad shotgun weapon spec build but there are times when my shotgun just doesn't 1tap something when it definitely should and idk why.

[obsidian ore]

also voc

I mainly have a problem with my toughness when I'm doing exec stance builds, but then it's a skill issue on my part

[grizzled aspen]

Is the agri model just not very good for this setup or what?

[obsidian prairie]

Try a double barrel

[spare talon]

Guys
Craft green apple soda
Or craft cream soda

[obsidian prairie]

Cone of death

[frosty herald]

i will never try to do exe ever

[vocal pulsar]

agri really only shines on vet

its not bad on zealot

[obsidian ore]

god tier weapon

[frosty herald]

it goes against my playstyle

[spare talon]

I need to choose

[vocal pulsar]

just does way better on vet

[hushed agate]

Green apple

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah I'm using it for a weapon spec build but it just doesn't do any damage, it seems.

[hushed knoll]

Hello everyone

Hello ice cream sundae frog

[hushed agate]

Hello stanely

[frosty herald]

if i had to use marksman keystone for vet i would go insane

like 0 use out of it

[grizzled aspen]

I pull it out to attempt to 1tap a random chaff enemy to keep weapon spec going and it takes anywhere from 2 to 4 shots to drop them.

[obsidian ore]

rashad is busted af for sure. but it also struggles with multiple ogryns since bromentum no llonger cleaves through them

[obsidian prairie]

Double barrel

Kill that enemy and their entire extended family

[frosty herald]

i tweaked my main powersword

[stable cypress]

I wouldn't say it struggles b/c rashad is v safe vs elite blobs

[frosty herald]

so now it has power cycler and sunder

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah it seems that the double barrel is my only choice now for that build.

Combat shotguns just don't do enough damage.

[obsidian ore]

I meant in like total killing time, you can just one tap unyielding enemies in the head

[obsidian prairie]

Or agrivovler

[stable cypress]

Even on classes that don't hit the upper limits of its dmg potential

[obsidian ore]

karsolas cleaves through unyielding, are you saying that about carapace?

aha yea

[spare talon]

Jones time

[hard nexus]

joined into a team wipe

almost clutched

then trapper, dog, and three bursters

sad

[hushed agate]

Breathed some air

[spare talon]

Did you see the ogryn video from yesterday

[frosty herald]

erm akshuallyyyyyy

[obsidian ore]

there's a trick for shields

[obsidian prairie]

Pickaxe can open bulwark or just hit over the shield

[hard nexus]

which one

[obsidian ore]

jump pull head hitbox into headshot

[frosty herald]

the pickaxe specials can open bullwarks if your max height ogryn

[grizzled aspen]

Karsolas PA into heavy goes over the shield.

[hard nexus]

wait fr?????

[spare talon]

The one when I rescued the gunlugger

[hard nexus]

oh yeah lmfao

m1 gaming

[obsidian prairie]

Chaxe can as well

[grizzled aspen]

So can rippergun special.

[obsidian ore]

get the tallest ogryn you can play, jump pull an ogryn above head level it will open its shield for enough time to do overhead

[obsidian prairie]

It’s PA can fit through

[hard nexus]

balanced

btw

[grizzled aspen]

Idk, I 1tap bulwarks with my karsolas and the PA resets their shield.

[hard nexus]

can u post a clip of the dueling sword eye slit

[obsidian ore]

keep in mind soften them up is insane for overhead breakpoints

if you don't have it that might be the reason you're not getting those one shot breakpoints after pull

if you go rocks for example

[rocky nacelle]

just had a sniper blast a trapper in the face

[stable cypress]

1 shot 1 kill

[obsidian ore]

yeah I wish blitz were a bit more of a free pick

yeah it is great for blitzes

others should be the same honestly

exactly my main issue

[stable cypress]

I don't think rock is really better than frag anyways but being locked off soften is so ass

[grizzled aspen]

What a peculiar specimen...

[frosty herald]

joe cuckold

https://tenor.com/view/two-people-laughing-on-table-laugh-laughing-lol-gif-3006610283817764608

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/rodland-rodland-of-pipes-crail-gif-9190261692793842065

[visual stream]

Chat I'm about to play Squirrel with a Gun

[hard nexus]

damn

i’m gonna have 2 learn that

just had a match

had 2 clutch twice

mk2 evis is my new favorite weapon i think

gladiator reference

[hard nexus]

this vet

dealt only 27k melee damage

and 107k ranged

poor guy

he kept dying lol

[fleet zealot]

let him perish

[ornate bone]

free them

[fleet zealot]

freedom is an illusion, none of us are truly free

[hard nexus]

i had to twice

[ornate bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1204429333972910091/1270858848730615828/caption.gif

[smoky pewter]

Question on the new system

Did they confirm if we'll be able to remove allocated stat points to allocate other places?

[fleet zealot]

no, it's been stated that this won't be happening

[sterile stone]

This hurt my soul to read

People who announce blocking people are weirdos

[naive parrot]

I have to kill 26 dregs to complete this weekly. In the last 3 missions, exactly 0 dregs have spawned. It has all been scabs.

[north sedge]

you can do a basic boost to the stats though to some degree

[fleet zealot]

basically, every weapon from 1 mod score to 379 will have their 380 stat spread listed which will be pre determined rng. It cuts down on the base finding part of the game but it is not removing it

[smoky pewter]

Gotcha

So I should actually hold on to every thammer I buy

[grizzled aspen]

You'll be far more likely to draw a potential perfect 380 post update.

[smoky pewter]

until the update

[grizzled aspen]

I.e. something like a thammer with 80 in everything but defences.

[hard nexus]

scab only mostly melee again

[grizzled aspen]

Probably would be best to hang onto everything that doesn't roll like trash until the update.

[hard nexus]

why

[smoky pewter]

right

[grizzled aspen]

I have a couple items I wish I could donate to the warphanage.

A 4% defenses slab shield, for example.

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

joe cuckold

[spare talon]

You done a heckin bad

Twitter is my weapon weapon of justice and the block button my bullet

[ornate bone]

imagine being named joe cuckold

[opal star]

this twitter post reeks of reddit

[fleet zealot]

that's bait

[lusty oar]

I just downvoted your comment.

"FAQ" What does this mean? The amount of karma (points) on your comment and Reddit account has decreased by one.

Why did you do this? There are several reasons I may deem a comment to be unworthy of positive or neutral karma. These include, but are not limited to:

*Rudeness towards other Redditors, *Spreading incorrect information, *Sarcasm not correctly flagged with a /s.

Am I banned from the Reddit? No - not yet. But you should refrain from making comments like this in the future. Otherwise I will be forced to issue an additional downvote, which may put your commenting and posting privileges in jeopardy.

I don't believe my comment deserved a downvote. Can you un-downvote it? Sure, mistakes happen. But only in exceedingly rare circumstances will I undo a downvote. If you would like to issue an appeal, shoot me a private message explaining what I got wrong. I tend to respond to Reddit PMs within several minutes. Do note, however, that over 99.9% of downvote appeals are rejected, and yours is likely no exception.

How can I prevent this from happening in the future? Accept the downvote and move on. But learn from this mistake: your behavior will not be tolerated on Reddit.com. I will continue to issue downvotes until you improve your conduct. Remember: Reddit is privilege, not a right.

[rocky nacelle]

you heckin defended uncanny strike

[nimble fiber]

bread

[spare talon]

But God is it so good

[fleet zealot]

i love ferrets

[ornate bone]

there is no way reddit is considered a "privilege"

[frosty herald]

SARCASM NOT FLAGGED WIYH AN S LMFAO

[nimble fiber]

sterref evol i

[acoustic dune]

what a weird lookin creature

[hushed knoll]

[hushed knoll]

(liquid)

[acoustic dune]

stan the animal is solid

[hushed knoll]

(liquid)

[acoustic dune]

atleast you wrote it right this tine

[hushed knoll]

Whay

What

[smoky pewter]

So this has the potential to be 380, and if it is, I can just force it to be no more than 60 in defense, right?

come September

[astral hound]

If i understood correctly the increase will be proportional to current stats

[smoky pewter]

I hope it's allocation, but that wouldn't surprise me either

[astral hound]

So a 40/40/40/40/30 190 is as good as a godroll

[smoky pewter]

I see

Still a good Ironhelm regardless then, just not perfect

Can't wait

[astral hound]

Potential and actual stats might also not be directly connected but either way you'll be hunting for perfect stat distribution

I'm more worried fs will make perfect stat distributions rarer

[hushed agate]

Yeah okay buddy

BLOCKED

[smoky pewter]

bleh

[astral hound]

Anyways

With the new crafting system i expect sweeping blessing / perk rebalances

Possible even cyclical weekly or monthly until it stabilises

They were worried the players would throw a fit about their godrolls with locked blessings getting nerfed before

[tidal prism]

Any incredible experienced zealot player that can explain me how to properly use the stealth ability against bosses with the knife....I always seem to do less that I'm supposed to

[frosty herald]

Backstab weakspot

[slate haven]

Guys

So I uh

I did the twins on heresy w under a wound or lower

And I didn’t complete it

We did the bell skip, dose that have anything to do with it

[astral hound]

Might not have been on low hp long enough

[obsidian ore]

you did it too fast

try to spend more time in the fight to guarantee the proc

[slate haven]

We did it in 9 mins

[obsidian ore]

its not related to bell skip

[slate haven]

Bro this is fucking bullshit

I’m fucking upset

[astral hound]

If you spend a minute at the start at full hp you have to take your time

[acoustic dune]

that penance is weird

[astral hound]

Just get a buddy or two, go all knife zealots and run an assassination

[frosty herald]

2 chain weapons and knife or thammer

Chain weapons do nasty damage to voudshields

[astral hound]

if you're boring i guess

chaxe totally destroys captain types

csword less so but still ok

[obsidian ore]

Eviscerator eats that shield raw

[astral hound]

I've had several people fail just a fleshwound because they spent two minutes being at too much hp & we killed the twins in less than eight and so on

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/voodoo-boys-placide-cyberpunk2077-hacking-enigmatic-gang-gif-26400917

"V take this voudshield"

[frosty herald]

What

[visual stream]

Squirrel with a Gun is indeed peak gaming, I fear

[solar gorge]

you misspelled it in way that make it sounds like it's something they'd say

ou being pronounced oo in creole

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/brainrot-evil-jonkler-jonkler-joker-gif-14156682415554448212

[solar gorge]

😔

[ornate bone]

why doesn't the joker just kill batman? is he stupid?

[hushed knoll]

Rate my meal

[hushed agate]

Jerker*

[hushed agate]

A meal from stan that doesnt make me feel sick?

I can hardly believe it

[solar gorge]

i only reconize the greesn

[hushed agate]

7/10

[solar gorge]

idk what the rest it

[median steeple]

is that steamed or raw broccoli

[hushed agate]

Salmon I believe

[solar gorge]

so i reserve my judgment

[median steeple]

salmon

[solar gorge]

until you inform me further

[hushed knoll]

It’s sautéed

Lightly

[solar gorge]

that shit ain't salmon no way

[hushed knoll]

And then steamed a little

[red swift]

Make sure you get your dodge proc before going stealth and hitting the boss.

[hushed knoll]

It’s salmon, way bigger than what I thought it was cuz they tucked the tail part under the rest of the filet

[solar gorge]

idk what you've done to it so i have to rate it 6/10

[red swift]

Ideally you'll have stacks of sustainted assault and IJ or whatever other damage buffs too

[solar gorge]

but otherwise sounds decent on paper

[hushed agate]

Stan lives in chernobyl so the livestock is a bit larger

[hushed knoll]

I just brushed it with olive oil and put salt pepper and garlic powder on it and then baked it

[solar gorge]

ok that seems fine

i prefer my salmon steamed but i'll raise it to 8/10

[median steeple]

I'm afraid its been nine years

[hushed knoll]

Steamed????

Who steams salmon

[solar gorge]

everybody

[hushed knoll]

What

[hushed agate]

I wont pretend i know much about fish but ive never seen anyone steam it

[solar gorge]

you know those big rectangle slices of salmon

[hushed knoll]

Yaaaas butt slayyyyy

Buff

Jfc

Sorry

[hushed agate]

I take it back

[hushed knoll]

BUFF NO

[hushed agate]

Everyone steams salmon

[solar gorge]

thank you

[opal star]

salmon 😋

[solar gorge]

glad that's all settled

[hushed knoll]

Lambda you need to go to a Pflegenheim

I've never heard of anyone steaming salmon

[fleet zealot]

stan

[solar gorge]

everyone steams salmon

[hushed knoll]

[solar gorge]

this is slander

[hushed knoll]

Yes hi how may I help you

[solar gorge]

i cannot stand this...

[hushed knoll]

You can sit down if you want

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/saymyname-fifidonia-di-mi-nombre-gif-14523270

[hushed knoll]

Barny ckmugn on

Barn

Barnvg

[solar gorge]

it's me gordon barny ckmugn form black mesa

[hushed knoll]

Idk what that is

[solar gorge]

barny ckumgn from black mesa

[hushed knoll]

Burakku mēsa

Chan

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/hl2-half-life-gordon-gordon-freeman-freeman-gif-19560046

[hushed knoll]

Doughthony

[north sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-max-guitar-badass-racing-gif-8527742

[hushed agate]

And then im goop

What did he mean by this

[north sedge]

Just pussing

[hushed agate]

Theres a strict no gooping, sliming, and/or gunking rule here stan

Remember that

[opal star]

how about sludging

[hushed agate]

Youd have to take that up with the mods its not listed

But id assume it falls under that category

[hushed knoll]

NO

[hushed knoll]

I meant "and then I'm good"

[hushed knoll]

You're going to make me break my teeth

[hushed agate]

Youre on thin ice

Stanely

[hushed knoll]

What

There is no ice in summer

[smoky pewter]

What can Zealot do to deal with 10 crushers?

Besides Boltgun

Thinking even that might have trouble

[fleet zealot]

melee dancing

[broken walrus]

Revolver to the face. Then run like hell while you are reloading

[smoky pewter]

That uh - that only skirts the issue for so long. That's a lot of pressure.

Can a Revolver one or two tap one?

[broken walrus]

I think its 3 minimum with a crit

[smoky pewter]

lol

[fleet zealot]

caxe and knife are the easiest, then it would be the chain and power weapons

crusher is ridic safe and probably the lowest effort

[smoky pewter]

Right, I'm a hammer boi normally, but this is 10 crushers

[fleet zealot]

it is, but you can def always dance better. time your dodges, don't panic dodge, let them regen back to full effectiveness

i am well aware of crusher packs

sometimes, it might be best to kite them back until you are in a better spot where they aren't able to surround you

force them through a doorway and such

[broken walrus]

Stun grenades also make them dance for awhile if you are comitted to melee

[hard nexus]

knife, crusher

bolter

revolver

[astral hound]

stun nade and chaxe

if knife zealot you can spend a long time running around and wearing them down, doubly so if knife stealth

[hard nexus]

oh

rashad

as well

[astral hound]

#1 thing to do is to scream loudly into vc though

[broken walrus]

"Crushhheeeeeerrrr"

[sterile stone]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[astral hound]

Just like my sensei told us in the first lesson

In a real fight, the best move is to shriek HELP HEEEELP HEEEEEEELP

& then to run

[slate haven]

Which one?

[hushed agate]

Idk if you mean that ironically or not but they literally do teach you that ideally fighting should always be a last resort

Because its not worth it

[astral hound]

Unironically

[hushed agate]

2

1's base is kind of bad

[astral hound]

2nd cause its a ix

[acoustic dune]

o god what did you do this time

that shit look to normal

what have you done this time

[hushed agate]

Its actual food

Good food too

I think stan has been killed and replaced by some sort of double ganger

[slate haven]

Oh btw

[acoustic dune]

thats the only awnser

[hushed knoll]

[slate haven]

The specialist damage got switched to maniac

[acoustic dune]

or he is eating it weirdly

[hushed knoll]

How would I eat it weirdly

[hushed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-out-black-guy-tweaking-meme-gif-6022943353035016664

[hushed knoll]

What does that mean

[acoustic dune]

stan your standart of normal is our weird

[hushed knoll]

What

[acoustic dune]

oh lemme explain it

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1152255403174928414/1139651508892352533.gif

this is us

you are our subject

[hushed agate]

Stan must be studied for science

[acoustic dune]

i still question how is he a teacher

[hushed knoll]

[acoustic dune]

he should not someone inspiring the new generation

[lusty oar]

yes he should

[hushed knoll]

Why TF are you taking notes

[acoustic dune]

i adding that to the convention

[hushed agate]

Stan you are invaluable to the infurtherment of science

[visual stream]

I'm telling you this is peak

[hushed agate]

Why is this a game

Ok wait actually chat

Can yall confirm something

Is the killer bean game thing real or was that some sort of delusion i dremnt up in a fever dream

[acoustic dune]

yes they fuck

[acoustic dune]

no its real

its been in develpment for some time

[hushed agate]

It feels so fake😭

[acoustic dune]

i saw the work since 2 year or so

[acoustic dune]

its prob how good it look

like the movie

[hushed agate]

Its just such a dumbass thing to make a game off

[visual stream]

Observe

[hushed agate]

Im not saying its bad i like it but out of all things why killer bean

[hushed agate]

I was talking about the bean let me finish my sentences

It feels like its a fake game that someone made up as an elaborate shitpost

[visual stream]

Then why did you say that tagging the video goof

[hushed agate]

Tagging?

[acoustic dune]

the game graphic give me a wee bit of turn off

but eh

its a neat concept

[acoustic dune]

tbh that would be funny

[hushed agate]

Whats wrong with graphics

[acoustic dune]

its shit

i hate it

its bought asset

[hushed agate]

I think you're spoiled

[acoustic dune]

and have no synergy

i am a bitch for art style

[acoustic dune]

yes

i am a sucker for good graphic

[copper hawk]

Noob

[obsidian prairie]

YEEEESSSSSSSS

Weapon spec time

[copper hawk]

Boo

[rocky nacelle]

those stats r so ugly

[obsidian prairie]

Shush

[rocky nacelle]

(i have to hate because I dont have manstopper on DBarrel)

[obsidian prairie]

I am never going to reload manually

[copper hawk]

Ur noob

[hushed agate]

U r so ugly

[obsidian prairie]

50 ish poxwalkers

[lusty oar]

fpsstopper

[rocky nacelle]

thats what ur using shotgun for

so noob

[hushed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-goodness-gracious-meme-template-humping-hump-thrust-gif-26373779

[copper hawk]

Nooooob

[rocky nacelle]

30-40 dreg ragers

this is what manstopper is really used for

[hushed agate]

Imagine using tknives...

Kinda cringe dude

[grizzled aspen]

Kills you with a big ole rock.

[hushed agate]

Use immolation grenades like a real zealot

[broken walrus]

I use stun grenades, cuz all kills have to be by my own hand

[hushed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-people-knuckles-how-it-feels-how-it-feels-to-kill-people-gif-16309833444157562937

[naive parrot]

BROTHERS

[copper hawk]

Y u kills me..

[naive parrot]

I CAN FEEL MYSELF BECOMING WEAK

[copper hawk]

Noobscast..

[grizzled aspen]

Because you're a noob...

[naive parrot]

BROTHERS HELP ME

[copper hawk]

Just buy it freak

3 days remain

[hushed agate]

Dont pre order shit

[naive parrot]

[hushed agate]

It never goes well

[copper hawk]

It launches at 2100 for me on Wednesday

[grizzled aspen]

I'm gonna see how it plays from my brother's console before I buy it.

[naive parrot]

Starfield

[copper hawk]

I preordered it

I trust saber

Wwz was good

[grizzled aspen]

Can you still pre order after the early release drops?

[copper hawk]

The tons of gameplay looks awesome

The 1 yr leaked build ran well even on 3060s

[copper hawk]

Probably not

[naive parrot]

I really like how they used the wwz engine for the tyranids. Watching them literally pour off of rooftops in a neverending stream of tyranids is peak

[copper hawk]

Maybe a different edition but it wont be these

[grizzled aspen]

That's really cringe...

[hushed agate]

Chat should i go to sleep or play more video games?

[copper hawk]

I bought the collectors edition

Go 2 sleep

W ur taxpayer dollars

[hushed agate]

Lah lah lah cant hear u

[copper hawk]

The titus funko pop

And the metal book

[grizzled aspen]

I get paid the 5th... hopefully I can get the expensive one...

[copper hawk]

Necron book

[obsidian prairie]

50 fucking ragers

[naive parrot]

take out a payday loan ||(DO NOT THESE ARE BAD)||

[grizzled aspen]

If you did the math, how much toughness would that have regenerated with exhilarating takedown?

[obsidian prairie]

Great question

Lots

[hushed agate]

I cant believe the government named a loan after payday 2

So cool of them

[grizzled aspen]

I'm in more control of my finances than you'd believe. I know any and all loans suck.

[naive parrot]

no you idiot they're not named after payday 2

[grizzled aspen]

Most of my actual money is wrapped up in CD's though.

[naive parrot]

they are named after payday 1

[smoky pewter]

Does Eviscerator apply bleeds on light attacks?

[naive parrot]

and thats why they are bad

[copper hawk]

I can loan u money

[grizzled aspen]

Other than those I'm living paycheck to paycheck.

[copper hawk]

U can trust meeee

[hushed agate]

Its called payday: the heist you barbarian

[obsidian prairie]

500% instantaneously and 1000% over 10 seconds (Confirmed kill)

[naive parrot]

its called my ass and its where it came from

[grizzled aspen]

Creature!

[copper hawk]

Creature!

[grizzled aspen]

No. The only way you can get melee bleed is by knife blessings or by getting a crit with the scourge talent.

Or bloodthirsty rev attacks.

[smoky pewter]

Gotcha

[naive parrot]

chain weapons were built for zealot

other classes can equip them

[hushed agate]

Someone needs to make a mod that replaces one of the ogryn personalities lines with bulldozer lines idc if itd take 1000 years

[naive parrot]

but its zealot that gets the mileage

[grizzled aspen]

Then there's psyker with the duelling swords... while zealout has the duellist talent...

[copper hawk]

Stfu

Noooob

[grizzled aspen]

Shut up!

Get on for honor.

Noob.

[hushed agate]

We both know that if zealot had the rapier the earth would explode

[hushed agate]

We aren't ready for that kind of power

[fleet zealot]

vet is getting dueling and heavy swords so def a high chance we get dueling swords

[grizzled aspen]

Vet is getting heavy swords???

[fleet zealot]

yea

[grizzled aspen]

Oh Emperor help us.

[fleet zealot]

or well, it was in a screenshot with a veteran character

it could just be a placeholder crafting screen

[hushed agate]

The game balance is about to be beat to death

Oh god

[fleet zealot]

ds4 on zealot

is going to insane

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah.

Tertium will burn.

[fleet zealot]

precog+duelist, dodge to the side, oneshot crusher

[hushed agate]

Dueling sword nerf inbound💔

[grizzled aspen]

Don't even mention crit builds.

[obsidian prairie]

Bromentum nerf inbound

[grizzled aspen]

Uncanny nerf inbound.

[obsidian prairie]

Yes

[grizzled aspen]

Zealout will basically have build in lacerate with duelling swords with riposte and piety.

[obsidian prairie]

We will cope with it

[grizzled aspen]

So they'll just crit nonstop.

[fleet zealot]

ds4 Likes uncanny mroe than knife does

dueling swords don't have crit adms

[grizzled aspen]

Idk, I feel like zealout dsmk4 crit builds are gonna go hard af.

[fleet zealot]

so it's prob gonna be piety + duelist as must have talents, then uncanny+ precog

[grizzled aspen]

Though you'd probably just get more raw damage running duellist, precog, uncanny, and IJ.

[hard nexus]

this is based on a screenshot that could very well be a placeholder

[hard nexus]

oh

lol

[fleet zealot]

i said this

[modern lintel]

Orginally on launch pysker was planned to also have heavy sword

[grizzled aspen]

It would be nice if they just unlocked the weapons across classes, save for force swords.

Because, yknow.

Need to be a psyker for those.

[hard nexus]

i just dislike seeing people say it like it’s fact when it’s like 75% certainly a placeholder

[hard nexus]

no

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah.

Unlock all of em.

Plasma psyker.

[copper hawk]

75%

[hard nexus]

you have to maintain a certain level of class identity

[hushed agate]

Stubber vet❤️

[hard nexus]

vets shouldn’t get a thammer

[copper hawk]

Hawk tuah

[grizzled aspen]

🤓

[hard nexus]

zealots shouldn’t get a power sword

[hushed agate]

Die

[hard nexus]

hello

[hushed agate]

Yes they should

[copper hawk]

She's trroing frog cast

Siiiigh

Meow didnt repsond 2 my dm

[drifting wolf]

when do we get the two handed chainaxe

[copper hawk]

Sheee haaaates me..

[copper hawk]

Mever

Never

[hard nexus]

i literally just did

[hard nexus]

i’m not

[copper hawk]

Ive been askin for tjis for a hundred years

[grizzled aspen]

Get on for honor noob!

[copper hawk]

I meant 2 say trooing

[grizzled aspen]

We're gonna play breach!

[copper hawk]

Siiigh 2 double hate me

I will NOT play breach

[visual stream]

Tknives have cleave?

[drifting wolf]

thunder knife???

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-gif-14141276552966470862

u asf

[copper hawk]

Lmfao

[hushed agate]

Tknives inherent blessing buffs

[grizzled aspen]

A little, but they inherit the effects of your currently equipped weapon. He's using manstopper there.

[copper hawk]

Im cuddlin w my blahaj

[hard nexus]

with manstopper

[copper hawk]

I dont wanna get outta bed.....,,

[grizzled aspen]

Just take your blahaj with you?

Goofy?

[visual stream]

The regular kitchen knives are already overpowered enough smh

[copper hawk]

Noooo

[grizzled aspen]

Coward!

[copper hawk]

Raaaaaagh

Fine ill play like

3 matches

[grizzled aspen]

Creature!

[copper hawk]

Then i need to do my run

[grizzled aspen]

You don't need to run.

[grizzled aspen]

Just bulk to the point where you can flip a car.

[copper hawk]

Yes i do

[hushed agate]

Why are you running?

[copper hawk]

It back to zero

[hushed agate]

Excersize?

[grizzled aspen]

I am on a permanent bulk.

I will continue to amass density until I collapse into a black hole.

[hard nexus]

i’m on a permanent skibidi

[hushed agate]

Same bestie!!!!!

[grizzled aspen]

Real shit, though, I tried cutting once and I felt like a zombie.

Water, basic subsistence, and vitamin gummies.

[hushed agate]

I have attained enough mass that i can roll down hills with minimal damage. I feel like a yoga ball

My power is growing im gaining momentum

[grizzled aspen]

I think that just means you're fat, bro...

[hushed agate]

NO

[grizzled aspen]

Orb shaped individual.

[hushed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-lancer-lancer-deltarune-undertale-gif-23130064

[copper hawk]

Because it fun

[grizzled aspen]

Ain't no way bro said running was fun.

I haul ass for like 10 seconds and I feel like I'm dying.

[copper hawk]

The twink body is hard 2 maintain

[visual stream]

I love Jpop

[copper hawk]

That's y u run distance

[fleet zealot]

50%, it either happens or it doesn't

[copper hawk]

7 miles is fine

[visual stream]

So banger..

[hard nexus]

tru

[copper hawk]

U can keep a 9:30-10:00 pace the whole time

[hushed agate]

Wait were you actually talking avout running i was teying to make a joke i thought you were talking about a game😭😭😭

[copper hawk]

Narp

I runnies

[grizzled aspen]

No cica actually runs, apparently.

[copper hawk]

U think this is a GAME

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/tyra-banks-be-quiet-twink-antm-gif-11385057

[grizzled aspen]

I want this twink obliterated.

[hushed agate]

No physical activity rule 64;

[hushed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-11120329515669448575

[visual stream]

This is the past week just from working

[visual stream]

Quite shrimple

[grizzled aspen]

I work in a grocery store. I get my steps in 4x over every day I go to work.

[hushed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-out-black-guy-tweaking-meme-gif-6022943353035016664

[copper hawk]

It's funny how little calories burn from like

Just walking

We r walking creatures

[grizzled aspen]

I can haul a 200lb kit for miles before I start feeling tired, but a sprint for 30 seconds makes me feel dead inside afterwards.

[broken walrus]

Walking is just falling effeciently

[copper hawk]

But in one 7 mile i burn half of ur total

[hushed agate]

Human hunting strategies were literally walking

[copper hawk]

Everyone should run..

[hushed agate]

Back in the day

[hard nexus]

walkmaxxing

[copper hawk]

From yesterday

[hard nexus]

the only creature that is similar to us in walking is wolves

[copper hawk]

W w w

[grizzled aspen]

No, silly, I am 240lbs of pure idiot. If I start running I crash and collapse.

[copper hawk]

Wolps ?

[hard nexus]

they r also endurance hunters

[visual stream]

That is one of the reasons why we survived and the neanderthals didn't

[copper hawk]

WOLPS !?

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/foxwolf-play-time-play-cute-gif-12694650

[visual stream]

Poor mammoths didn't stand a chance against... good walkers

with sticks

[copper hawk]

Me n who

[hard nexus]

[hard nexus]

who wanna be the fox to my wolf

[copper hawk]

Wolps

[hard nexus]

i love wolves so much

they r so cute

if i met a wild wolf

[copper hawk]

Wolps

[hard nexus]

i think they would like me

because they can sense my like

[grizzled aspen]

They would eat you.

[copper hawk]

Wolps

[hard nexus]

inner silliness

[copper hawk]

Ur aura

[grizzled aspen]

Alive.

[hard nexus]

they’d fuck wit me

[hard nexus]

no they wouldn’t

[copper hawk]

Most aura ive used on a lvl 1 wolps

Id say something cute like

AAAEEEUUUUUUGH

[visual stream]

Some wolves and crows/ravens are friends

[copper hawk]

UR DEATH WILL BE SWEET

BUT NOT

FOR YOU

[hard nexus]

i have a pet wolf(dog)

[copper hawk]

And charge the nearest wolp

[hard nexus]

so

[visual stream]

The puppies will play with the ravens

[hard nexus]

they’d like me

[copper hawk]

They'll loke dat..

[visual stream]

And the ravens will snitch on coyotes to the wolves because they both hate coyotes

[grizzled aspen]

Both of you would be eaten alive.

[hushed agate]

Good. That makes me happy

[grizzled aspen]

That's because coyotes are bastards.

[hard nexus]

norp!

i have a pet wolfdog

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-true-smoke-gif-23157983

[grizzled aspen]

They're a scavenger carnivore, like corvids are, so that's why corvids hate them, and they fight over territory with wolves, so that's why wolves hate them.

[hard nexus]

wait what that’s fucking awesome

i never knew that

[modern lintel]

But how will this effect australias invasive camel problem

[visual stream]

Snitching on the scavenger carnivore so I can be a better scavenger carnivore

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah, it's a symbiotic relationship.

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-starlight-black-noir-floss-gif-12885356005529784015

Ravens and wolves

[hard nexus]

that’s actually adorable

[grizzled aspen]

Corvids make friends with wolves because wolves are capable of getting enough of a kill to sustain both their pack and the corvids.

[hard nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-crow-gif-8159573

lmfao

[grizzled aspen]

In return, the corvids assist the wolves in keeping hold of their territory.

[visual stream]

And also babysit a lil bit on occasion

[grizzled aspen]

I wouldn't say "babysit" is the right term for it.

But they definitely do play with the wolves.

[visual stream]

Used loosely but it is more like playing, yes

[grizzled aspen]

Whether from sheer boredom or not, I couldn't say.

[hushed agate]

Dude why the fuck do i not have a little minion that acts as an informant

This is such bullshit

[grizzled aspen]

That's what having children is for.

[hushed agate]

Ew no they're annoying

[grizzled aspen]

I'm just saying, that's the only option you've got.

[visual stream]

Not if you're really good at training your neighborhood crows

[modern lintel]

Or hire a midget

[grizzled aspen]

Waiting on cica to get on for honor...

[copper hawk]

Bro thinks he odin

Would u believe me im still in bed

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-jump-viking-leap-off-man-jump-man-axe-jump-gif-12256084104266267790

[grizzled aspen]

Hurry up!!!

[copper hawk]

W my blahaj

[visual stream]

I do not think; I know

[grizzled aspen]

Take your blahaj with you!

[copper hawk]

Glorrrgh

I need 2 hydrate 2

[hushed agate]

Kagtros

[copper hawk]

Brb..........

[grizzled aspen]

You're literally rotting!

[hushed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-robert-downey-jr-shrug-the-rot-the-rot-consumes-gif-4934048971431677874

[grizzled aspen]

Tbf, I did rot most of the day...

[spare talon]

It's so fucking over
There's no coming back from this attorney-bros

[hushed agate]

Wait amorgus is still alive

[grizzled aspen]

Finally, I can kill that bitch Edgeworth!

(I have never played an ace attorney game, edgeworth just looks like a pompous prick)

[visual stream]

Where do you think the iPad children go when they're not on YouTube Kids

(I have no proof for this statement)

[grizzled aspen]

They go to among us vr.

Or shitty garry's mod servers.

[hushed agate]

I like those videos of grown men terrorizing small children in vr among us

[visual stream]

Oh boy, DarkRP time

[hushed agate]

Its very fun

[spare talon]

He is for majority of the first game but then he becomes a great character, enough to have 2 of his own spinoff games that are being remastered in 4 days

[rocky nacelle]

miles edgeworth vs evil miles edge worth

miles goonsworth

[modern lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-about-it-gif-22026840

[hushed agate]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LdH5ZQVJvwE&pp=ygURVnIgYW1vbmcgdXMgY2hpbGQ%3D

[spare talon]

The first case in the 2nd spinoff game is a presidential assassination attempt
The announcement of the remaster collection happened a few weeks before the Trump incident

[naive parrot]

Reallocating this kid's college fund to therapy

[spare talon]

Just like how the first case of the 5th mainline game revolved around a bombing, and a few weeks before the games release, the Boston marathon bombing happened
They actually delayed the games release cuz of that

[hushed agate]

I cant wait for the next ace attorney game to be about rogue nuclear warheads :)

[spare talon]

No no no no wait wait wait

[acoustic dune]

is the nuclearn warhead the victim

[naive parrot]

Knowing AA, probably

[grizzled aspen]

I be out here doing kensei duels because SOMEBODY ( @copper hawk ) is taking their SWEET TIME.

[hard nexus]

edgeworth??? among us edging?????

[hushed agate]

Nuck Cleer Warten

[acoustic dune]

please never other that phrase

again

or ill stop edging

[naive parrot]

don't do it

you've been holding it in for so long

the world cant handle it

[spare talon]

Me when I'm in a being loud in a public space competition and my opponent is a 5 year old Mexican child

[copper hawk]

FIIIINE

I GOT UP

Gimmie a minot..

[hard nexus]

erm

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-minor-s-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-10940848928744248792

[rocky nacelle]

holy shjit

its big boobs

whats he doing in space

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-whar-erm-whar-confused-cat-huh-what-gif-4052880542927116908

[grizzled aspen]

WE LOVE TUXEDO CATS

[hushed agate]

WOW! He's literally me!

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/content-homelander-antony-starr-gen-v-happy-gif-16650664719179804298

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/miskeeping-naku-luna-cat-dog-gif-22500694

[uneven chasm]

Pass or Yes? This is from sour Melk.

[rocky nacelle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/147401990148718593/1166348416138366996/never-cook-again.gif?ex=654a299c&is=6537b49c&hm=8f42e6edb281e8e512d1a8145d7b873c99389d9827a6c7e8b02a4ffcbf24a676&

[rocky nacelle]

id get quickflame 3

the burn is yikes

[ornate bone]

use this

[grizzled aspen]

Burn needs to be like 76% right?

[rocky nacelle]

yes

76%

[ornate bone]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1166851827900350575/bloodknife.gif?ex=654bfe72&is=65398972&hm=a29c6925d49ddb17e8259b3a13969f39435a19f50424ed7168ca805ed587c8f2&