And im bad at it
#zealot-class
fleet zealot
obsidian prairie
Returns
fleet zealot
It is so weird to not aim up or down
cerulean moth
Aim this dick in yo mo-
frank quail
although, for what it's worth
shadowheart is in the original screenshot
fleet zealot
It’s like that one temple roguelite side scroller
cerulean moth
although, for what it's worth
shadowheart is in the original screenshot
She’s an elf so it’s a -10 on that but I like her look!
frosty herald
Gearbox anounced risk of rain mobile and canceled it a week later lmao
cerulean moth
Gearbox can suck my fartbox
fleet zealot
Gearbox anounced risk of rain mobile and canceled it a week later lmao
Iphones exploding, androids catching on fire
cerulean moth
🔥✍️🔥
frank quail
ornate bone
although, for what it's worth
shadowheart is in the original screenshot
wal-shart
naive stirrup
i got a thing
drowsy steppe
i got a thing
shame its currently the least fun to use
drowsy steppe
why is there a pogging face
fleet zealot
why is there a pogging face
misty nova
drowsy steppe
silk stratus
I consider myself a good zealot player but holy shit the AI director is going too insane for me on auric maelstrom
frosty herald
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/let-me-do-it-for-you-gif-27412761
"LoOk At HoW fAr My DoG's SnOuT cAn Go!"
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/let-me-do-it-for-you-gif-27412761
@hushed knoll Look at this dog's snout!
misty nova
Borzoi mentioned
placid fiber
Seeing my cat recoil away from soda and stuff is kinda funny, after she goes out of her way so she can sniff it
fleet zealot
Ferret ascension
fallen drum
is there an axe that has a faster attack string than the rashad II but is also good?
fleet zealot
is there an axe that has a faster attack string than the rashad II but is also g...
rashad is the fastest combat axe
placid fiber
^
fleet zealot
taxes are faster but they are def not as good
placid fiber
is there an axe that has a faster attack string than the rashad II but is also g...
The rashad already attacks quite fast, as well
placid fiber
What is your finesse?
robust iron
Just started playing Zealot for the first time, is the base dash ability any good?
fallen drum
blazeing piety, i have the 10% node let me cherck finesse...
placid fiber
Piety is not what you want to use with the rashad
obsidian prairie
Just started playing Zealot for the first time, is the base dash ability any goo...
It’s weaker than the upgraded version but the upgraded one is very good
placid fiber
You want either IJ or Marty
fallen drum
73% finesse
solar gorge
Just started playing Zealot for the first time, is the base dash ability any goo...
all abilities are good and serve different purposes, you'll also be able to upgrade it even further as you level up
obsidian prairie
Total immunity while dashing, attack speed for guns, guaranteed crit + full armor pen for melee
placid fiber
73% finesse
The Rashad works better with Inexorable Judgement or Martyrdom
fleet zealot
rashad has the finesse score but it's finesse stat isn't that exceptional, it serves to more easily enable BM and give it more attack speed
robust iron
Cool, I'm an ogryn main so I'm used to my dash trampling the entire legion of Sparta and I'm not quite sure how to use the zealot one
fleet zealot
Cool, I'm an ogryn main so I'm used to my dash trampling the entire legion of Sp...
shoulder check, you can target enemies with it to get more distance (like 2x distance) and unlike ogryn you are immune to ranged while doing it
placid fiber
rashad has the finesse score but it's finesse stat isn't that exceptional, it se...
Except if you have less than 50% finesse, then it sucks ass lol
fleet zealot
it also gives better buffs
robust iron
Oh zealot dash can’t trample stuff
I didn't expect it to, it's just kind of muscle memory messing with me
fallen drum
The Rashad works better with Inexorable Judgement or Martyrdom
i've seen zealots use this axe to slaughter huge swathes of elites, but mine doesn't seem to be able to kill anything that fast, usually 3-4 hits
obsidian prairie
Send it
fallen drum
any tips on what I might be doing wrong?
obsidian prairie
And your build
placid fiber
I mean... It takes a few hits to kill elites, and your build highly changes how effective it is
fleet zealot
also, just for clarifications sake, finesse bonuses DO not contribute to attack speed, only the finesse stat does. finesse bonuses only give weakspot and crit damage
fallen drum
i've scrapped the build at this point, frustration mounted
fleet zealot
i've seen zealots use this axe to slaughter huge swathes of elites, but mine doe...
are you overusing heavies?
fallen drum
are you overusing heavies?
yeah, shit doesn't die its frustrating
placid fiber
Heavies do less to maniac, in case you don't know
obsidian prairie
Heavies have weird ass ADM’s
placid fiber
You mostly use lights yeah
fleet zealot
lights+ PA for stagger
placid fiber
besides for carapace and unyielding
^
fallen drum
here's the axe i have
fleet zealot
here's the axe i have
your perks suck
placid fiber
here's the axe i have
Perks could be better, you generally want flak for sure
fleet zealot
due to how BM functions, perks are very important on rashad
obsidian prairie
Go find a new axe
placid fiber
Unarmored, Maniac, and Flak do much more
fleet zealot
since hitting one hit BPs will enable the multikills
obsidian prairie
Or fudge your breakpoints with martyrdom
fallen drum
new axe it is, gotcha
fleet zealot
also piety just won't help you reliably on caxe, you want martyrdom or IJ
solar gorge
first perks provides nothing of value and second is overkill for this axe which has super high cara dmg by default
fallen drum
i' loath martyrdom but IJ is a fun one i'll pick that up
fleet zealot
cara does give an BP iirc lambda for crushers (one less heavy) but i believe you can also get that from 10% elites
placid fiber
i' loath martyrdom but IJ is a fun one i'll pick that up
Fair, marty isn't for everyone. I have a tanky marty that lets me get away with some extra bs
fallen drum
I find i play dumber on martyrdom and end up spending most of the mission downed lol
placid fiber
Personally I use 1 toughness curio and 2 wound curios on marty
fleet zealot
you should try breaking that habit tbh
placid fiber
You can play dumber, but, you still gotta be aware
fleet zealot
play martyrdom like you would any other build, just don't heal unless you absolutely need to
fallen drum
back up axe for now
fallen drum
lol into the trash it goes i guess
placid fiber
lol into the trash it goes i guess
Headtaker/Decimator is pretty important, as well as Bromentum. Sadly the perks also matter as well, so you want at least 1 good perk and a 2nd at least okay perk(like 8% specialist or elite damage)
Personally if I had to take it, I wouldn't mind carapace damage either
fallen drum
welp time to go to the casino then I guess
placid fiber
Good luck
fallen drum
this roll sounds more and more like the roll needed to make blaze trauma work
fleet zealot
0.55 - 0.85 (55%-85%) finesse mod on lights
0.88 - 1.23 (88%-123%) finesse mod on heavies
placid fiber
Rashad is simple to use, but, complex to roll well
fleet zealot
this roll sounds more and more like the roll needed to make blaze trauma work
yes but worse 
fallen drum
lol okay so what exactly am I looking to roll on this,
i know head taker is one and BM is mandatory
fleet zealot
all 4 damage stats high
fleet zealot
BM mandatory, flak maniac perks, elites, carapace, etc all okay to cope with
BM rank doesn't matter that too
placid fiber
Flak I think is probably the biggest one
Yeah the weakspot damage is nice, but, it is still very small when comparing the ranks of BM
acoustic dune
as someone watch the new bruva alfabusa vid
placid fiber
I mean... that's a bit oof, but, you can work with that if the perks and blessings are good
fallen drum
placid fiber
@fleet zealot What do you think, is that 2nd one at least useable if the perks and blessings are good?
placid fiber
I know you CAN use it, but, it is still sad
I just don't know how much you lose
the 50% first target one is dumpster trash
fallen drum
into the trash it goes...
placid fiber
You can probably check the 64% pen one, because if it rolls good on the blessings and perks it would be better than your other one... I think
fallen drum
a step up is still a step up
placid fiber
Yeah
fallen drum
lets see how mommy hadron decides to roll it
placid fiber
placid fiber
lets see how mommy hadron decides to roll it
I got my gun in case she fucks you
placid fiber
Can we see?
OH God
I would probably wait for a better one instead of upgrading the 60% pen one
fallen drum
i can replace thunderous at least, but that block efficiency hurts\
placid fiber
That hurts the soul
fallen drum
don't it?
placid fiber
Yeah that hurts
fallen drum
so, do i put it out to pasture or try to use it for a few runs?
placid fiber
I mean you can try.
placid fiber
so, do i put it out to pasture or try to use it for a few runs?
But yeah: Lights are pretty much the way with the Rashad, heavies are pretty much saved for monsters and crushers
fallen drum
how do i best use this weapon, is it just light spam eternal or does the push attack have any functionality
placid fiber
how do i best use this weapon, is it just light spam eternal or does the push at...
Mostly just light spam
It's one of the easiest weapons in the game to use well
umbral kindle
i can replace thunderous at least, but that block efficiency hurts\
Honestly I would swap decapitator instead, it's practically useless the moment anyone uses any kind of AoE damage
Oh you got a purg/smite psyker? Now everything has taken a speck of damage and can't be one shot for stacks
fallen drum
wow that... that sucks
placid fiber
Oh what did you replace on the axe?
fallen drum
i havn't done anything with it yet
placid fiber
I would replace both blessings tbh, if you are going to use it
since headtaker will probably do more than a damage perk, due to how power works
Then when you get a better replacement you will probably feel the pretty big upgrade of having good perks as well as blessings
placid fiber
I mean sadly the rashad is really picky
fallen drum
its kinda bugged text wise atm
fallen drum
ahh thunderous is brittleness
placid fiber
Yeah
fallen drum
but i'm guessing keeping that isn't gonna help me much
fallen drum
i did ask xD
placid fiber
You did?
fallen drum
yep
placid fiber
mb
placid fiber
I'm blind 😉
fallen drum
its okay so am I sometimes
but yeah brittleness is only good on faster hitting stuff if i remember right
or on rending trauma staff
placid fiber
It's like discount dollar store rending
fallen drum
welp goodbye to thunderous then
placid fiber
Well I know the headtaker would be benefitting from all 30% bonus melee damage a IJ build can have(without IJ stacks)
fallen drum
whats the major take away of headtaker vs decapitator?
placid fiber
since there's 2 5% nodes and then 20% from sustained assault
fleet zealot
decap has the highest potential but the worst sustain
placid fiber
whats the major take away of headtaker vs decapitator?
headtaker would give a 30% melee damage bonus a 1.25 x 1.3 for damage dealt
fleet zealot
headtaker is the most consistent option, with decimator being the middleground
someone did the math and decap just edges out past decimator if you are at max stacks
placid fiber
Interesting, sad that it is hard to maintain
fallen drum
head taker it is
drowsy steppe
did tox flamers get stealth buffed
fallen drum
headtaker would give a 30% melee damage bonus a 1.25 x 1.3 for damage dealt
ty for the help btw
placid fiber
ty for the help btw
Glad I could, I use the rashad on my Marty build so that helps lol
it's so comfy having 172 toughness on a marty build
frosty herald
fallen drum
test run time
fleet zealot
did tox flamers get stealth buffed
wdym
obsidian prairie
Wait you can’t even hit max blaze away on GG
zinc talon
sure you can
obsidian prairie
It sounds really bad for that weapon
zinc talon
blaze away will start stacking with melee attacks as well as ranged attacks
and you don't even have to connect with anything, it'll stack swinging into the air
obsidian prairie
Oh right spaghetti code
zinc talon
suddenly you're hitting for that 50% plus crunch plus heavy talents
placid fiber
obsidian prairie
Forgot this is a Fatshark game for a second
zinc talon
and the GG heavies are all but one single target
placid fiber
Forgot this is a Fatshark game for a second
Happens to the best of us, lol
zinc talon
with all the bells and whistles going off you can just about oneshot a mutant
two maybe threeshot a crusher crits depending
it's no slouch at all
placid fiber
I think it was that weapons update that buffed a lot of the underperforming weapons, that messed with us on that @obsidian prairie
Might have been a while ago, but, it was a really weird patch compared to what we are used to
zinc talon
the most fun I've ever had in a mission was putting a flashlight on my grenade gauntlet instead of the falcon punch, and running a lights out with weakened bosses
using just the gauntlet the whole time
placid fiber
the most fun I've ever had in a mission was putting a flashlight on my grenade g...
You can put a flashlight on it?
obsidian prairie
Mods
placid fiber
Ah
zinc talon
many things are possible through the weapons customization mod
obsidian prairie
I can put the laspistol sight on everything, and I do
placid fiber
That would be awesome in the base game
zinc talon
your squaddies can't see your light when it's on, it's just you
but you can see when you bonk, and you can see when you aim
if you run out of ammo, just bonk
obsidian prairie
Also means it doesn’t trigger daemonhosts with it
zinc talon
using just that on a lights out was the scariest I've ever seen darktide get
obsidian prairie
Because it’s client side
placid fiber
Also means it doesn’t trigger daemonhosts with it
That's handy
zinc talon
heh I've yet to ever wake up a demon with a flashlight
I only just found out that could happen like a week or two ago
zero idea, whole time
zinc talon
uh, think so
it just replaces the weapon's standard alternate attack with toggle light or toggle laser pointer
oh by the way you can get laser pointers
like the snipers have
placid fiber
Meh, cool but meh
zinc talon
it'll cast out like a, uh, laser
and illuminate the area it lands on
instead of a cone at your feet
obsidian prairie
The lasers are cool until you move or want a hip fire reticle
zinc talon
and also it's red light, below the wavelength your pupillary contraction kicks in
so flashing yourself with it in the dark won't blind you
obsidian prairie
They get really fucky if you sprint or slide
placid fiber
I was wondering about that lol
obtuse solstice
should I spam light on dclaw 4 or l1h2
zinc talon
well it's an actual ray or whatever the nerd term is for it, one end bound to wherever your crosshair viewpoint is pointing at
obsidian prairie
so flashing yourself with it in the dark won't blind you
Pretty sure beaming it into your eyes would
zinc talon
and bound on the other end to your weapon
and therefore your animations
so it gets fucky with animations they didn't put a whole lot of time into like crouching whlie moving sideways
or whatever
but if you stay in first person, it's bound to the actual tip of the lasre pointer component so it'll stay on target well enough unless you're moving your gun around and looking at something super close to you, like melee range
and I think your squaddies can see those
zinc talon
now imagine an ogryn with one on the tip of their six foot long stubber
in third person
moving sideways, first person animation doin just fine cuz it's the gun in your hands
third person, actual animation is moving with your gun raised way up high like you're skedaddlin with it
across center screen lol
obsidian prairie
The first person laser gets really disjointed a lot of the time
zinc talon
heh well I mean, it was never intended for us to use
but it's a weapon component like any other so the data mining comes back with it, and surprisngly it's working well enough for our use while designed for a fuckin hideyhole long distance elite
kinda lowkey impressive happy accident to me
now give me the Concrete Clobber the crushers have
fallen drum
Okay so, that shitty rashad axe put in some heavy lifting that game
i must have just barely met the 1-2 hit breakpoints because shit died so fast
fallen drum
I was wondering about that lol
that axe, bad as it was, put in a ton of work
fleet zealot
nimble fiber
nimble fiber
polar nexus
someone did the math and decap just edges out past decimator if you are at max s...
Yeah Commissar did that but why bother when headtaker
vestal harness
I think I might be insane.
I Just played Zealot, after a year Break, called myself Firepurger, choose Flamer, and laught maniacly while burning heretics alive 
polar nexus
You're insane
vestal harness
You're insane
So im a average zealot Main?
polar nexus
Yes
hushed knoll
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Asraval hiiiii schweres atmen
placid fiber
wow thanks
@hushed knoll Stan: Who is this?
That's what I thought, Stan doesn't know.
I'll have to write that down
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953
Thank you for helping me add it to the records.
hushed knoll
<@399244889109561364> Stan: Who is this?
?
placid fiber
Because you can't answer a simple question
hushed knoll
That's obviously Barvng ckmugn on
south folio
mmmmm i love taking notes
hushed knoll
Arthur no
south folio
my favorite pasttime
hushed knoll
Atom
south folio
you can do it
south folio
you've done it
south folio
sweatbomb takes on a new identity now
hushed knoll
Ok sweaty
hushed knoll
I've seen your computer setup
south folio
good, then you know how well i make use of my fans
hushed knoll
Onlyfans
hushed knoll
south folio
kill stan
hushed knoll
Wtf
placid fiber
I hate that so much
How else are we going to remember how to be you, without adding stuff to the records?
nimble fiber
Asraval hiiiii *schweres atmen*
hi stan how r u doin?
placid fiber
@fleet zealot I tried, but, Stan refuses to acknowledge your name.
frosty herald
@hushed knoll have you gone to the library recently?
left iron
Stan would get overloaded by the amount of paper inside a library
If a simple note is enough to drive him nuts
silver void
IS rashad or achlys better ?
placid fiber
IS rashad or achlys better ?
Rashad is much easier to use, and has a better moveset overall I would say
north sedge
achlys is the worst of the axes
placid fiber
All you need to do is switch thunderous to decimator or headtaker and it's almost perfect
silver void
I played it got 740k damage duo maelstrom so yeah idk
solid kelp
Achlys is maybe the worst combat axe, but it's still a combat axe and very workable
placid fiber
Rashad
solid kelp
Lots of people swear on the Rashad
tight fog
rashad or antax
silver void
I've been playing martyrdom with it and piety too ( dont like momentum)
tight fog
acylys doesnt cleave through stuff its very lame
placid fiber
I've been playing martyrdom with it and piety too ( dont like momentum)
Martyrdom and Momentum are the keystones you want with it
solar gorge
Rashad is the best Caxe period
solid kelp
Rashad and Antax both have somewhat diagonal lights which synergizes very well with brutal momentum for horde clear
tight fog
antax is still amazing
silver void
acylys doesnt cleave through stuff its very lame
With brutal momentum it does but a bit weak
solar gorge
it's not bad but it's not the Rashad
tight fog
it's still an incredible weapon lol
solid kelp
Antax is technically better at horde clear due to its cleave targets stat, but not by much if you have brutal momentum
placid fiber
I mean the Antax gets 50% finesse so for a lower level character you will probably have more luck with it
tight fog
yeah but ppl act as though the antax isnt worth using, which isnt true at all
placid fiber
the Rashad gets 50% cleave targets
silver void
I've got a 377 rashad MK2
placid fiber
I mean what is the stat distribution?
tight fog
if you can get headtaker and brutal momentum on the blessings then it'll be good
unless the perks are really dumptstered
placid fiber
unless the perks are really dumptstered
I mean even with dumpstered perks you can work with headtaker and bromentum
It just sucks
placid fiber
yeah but ppl act as though the antax isnt worth using, which isnt true at all
Oh I don't think the Antax isn't worth using, I just have a preference for the Rashad on higher level characters since it can get finesse over 50%
solid kelp
Also, note that "worst" isn't the same as "bad". If you can make the Achlys work then the Achlys works for you.
But it's always worth checking the other marks in case they work better for you
which they probably will, in this case
placid fiber
I still find it weird that stats that aren't shown on a weapon, but, are on other weapons of that type are still on the 1st weapon, but, at 50%...
solid kelp
That's close to optimal, I'd say
placid fiber
Almost perfect for the stats
solid kelp
I wish I had that axe
placid fiber
But the blessings and perks will be what determines just how good it can be
silver void
Let hadron bless it
solid kelp
Locks are going away next month anyway, so no harm done if it gets bad perks/blessings really
placid fiber
^
Plus it's still workable even with just bromentum and headtaker in the mean time
So it's not like you can't use it until then
fallen drum
whats needed to make the flamethrower good? perks, blessings and stats?
placid fiber
the one that does burning you want at, iirc, 76%+ and cloud radius you want at 80%
those are the 2 most important stats, followed by ammo
fallen drum
gotcha
btw, in case you missed it, that axe fucks
even being as bad a roll as it was
placid fiber
Nice
placid fiber
even being as bad a roll as it was
The biggest thing is knowing all you really do is light attack, unless it's a crusher
placid fiber
despite having 1 less dodge that might be better than the one you had before
placid fiber
One of my better axes has unarmored on it as well
solid kelp
I forgot, but does Righteous Fury just grant crit chance overall? That might fuck well with the Flamer, since crits add more burn stacks (I think, they do for the psyker soulblaze staff at least)
visual stream
I'm going to a tattoo consultation today 
placid fiber
I forgot, but does Righteous Fury just grant crit chance overall? That might fuc...
Do you mean blazing piety?
solid kelp
oh yeah, I think I mean that
placid fiber
It is crit chance, and not melee or ranged specific
fallen drum
What blessings do i want for flamer?
brazen umbra
is there a mod to trigger stacks of skills/blessings in the psykhanium?
placid fiber
What blessings do i want for flamer?
blaze away is the most important one
Then I think either quick flame or inspiring barrage
solid kelp
Yeah blazing piety, zealot's my least played class so far so I don't have all the talents in my head yet
placid fiber
It's okay, I figured it out lol
solid kelp
But that keystone's probably the most impactful option for a flamer build
placid fiber
Eh
solid kelp
Out of the other two ones, I guess
placid fiber
I am not sure which one does the most on the flamer, actually
solid kelp
Martyrdom is just melee damage
placid fiber
IJ is melee and ranged attack speed and damage
brazen umbra
attack speed, toughness dr
placid fiber
IJ is melee and ranged attack speed and damage
and dodge speed, dodge recovery time, and dodge distance
solid kelp
Momentum would add extra damage I think, but flamer's damage is rather low so it wouldn't do that much
Maybe it'd affect the burn stack damage? Not sure
placid fiber
Yeah I wasn't sure on the keystones for flamer
I know melee weapons, and keystones for the most part...
Just not ranged, tbh
solid kelp
Some talents that give damage bonuses affect DOT damage, some don't and it's unclear which do from what I know
But stacking more burn stacks is probably better than trying to increase burn stack damage
placid fiber
@gritty flume Doesn't the 25% damage to nearby enemies affect burn damage?
frosty herald
placid fiber
or am I mistaken? >.<'
placid fiber
Kinda nice since the flamer is a fairly close ranged weapon(not counting cloud radius effects)
solid kelp
I guess the +damage to Unyielding and Infested would also increase burn DOT damage
placid fiber
Yeah, that's a great talent
solid kelp
Sainted Gunslinger would also be nice for the reload speed (and you're a zealot, so don't expect to be a dedicated flamer regardless of your build)
placid fiber
didn't they nerf the distance for the full bonus down to 7m, recently?
solid kelp
I think they did, then later increased it to 12 yeah
solid kelp
It runs on Close Range, which is now defined as 12.5
pliant palm
this any good?
solid kelp
Stats are good, perks and blessings are eh
placid fiber
this any good?
perks and blessings suck ass
hushed agate
this any good?
Buy for base
placid fiber
You can buy it for the itemization update tho
hushed agate
Wait actually never mind
solid kelp
Chainaxes can be real cumbersome to use, that mark will have you doing lots of heavy attacks
hushed agate
That pen is bad
solid kelp
Light attacks on the mk IV do deal more damage than what is listed, since they also have a shredder bonus applied. They also stick on normal enemies
pliant palm
oh its a heavy attack one? oof
placid fiber
Yeah, that uses slaughterer and headtaker
patent patrol
Ngl I can't WAIT for the new mastery system to come out. I'm immediately buffing up that First Target if I can lol.
this was my first ever almost perfect melee weapon
so
placid fiber
Ngl I can't WAIT for the new mastery system to come out. I'm immediately buffing...
and put thrust 4 on it? lol
patent patrol
and put thrust 4 on it? lol
If it lets me, yes.
placid fiber
they are removing all the locks, iirc
solid kelp
Unfortunately, the light attacks on the mk IV chainaxe do not activate blessings that trigger on weapon special attacks. I kinda wish FS would just experiment and see what happens if it did
patent patrol
they are removing all the locks, iirc
though I don't have thrust 4 unlocked atm
placid fiber
Oof
solid kelp
Bleed stacks ahoy
patent patrol
I'm waiting for it to come in the shop.
placid fiber
Just do what I did, and get 3 level 30 zealots >_>'
patent patrol
Oof
On the bright side, while thrust 4 makes a difference, thrust 3 is fine as-is
and with the new system I could probably get it quick.
placid fiber
On the bright side, while thrust 4 makes a difference, thrust 3 is fine as-is
yeah, 3 does a lot still
patent patrol
tho ngl idk how I feel about slaughterer.
It gives a better damage boost but headtaker's so much more reliable
placid fiber
iirc slaughterer is better on the ironhelm
patent patrol
iirc slaughterer is better on the ironhelm
Fair. And the crucis just straight up sucks rn 💀
placid fiber
headtaker is way more consistent
pliant palm
also i assume this is good with the blessings right?
patent patrol
also i assume this is good with the blessings right?
I'd say so...?
I wouldn't know fully but I know that one needs savage sweep
placid fiber
also i assume this is good with the blessings right?
I mean... the mk 2 can at least make use of savage sweep for damage, on the heavy 1
patent patrol
I mean... the mk 2 can at least make use of savage sweep for damage, on the heav...
savage sweep is a must have on that thing if I recall
placid fiber
I can't remember for the mk2
patent patrol
because unlike the new one it doesn't have as great of cleave
placid fiber
I know the mk15 is rampage and shred/perfected strike
patent patrol
I can't remember for the mk2
you don't need it on the other heavy evisc, I think you need Savage Sweep on the MKII
I'd say that one's perfect.
patent patrol
also i assume this is good with the blessings right?
just slap on flak and maniac I think
placid fiber
Savage Sweep is nice, if you can damage more targets yeah lol
patent patrol
and you're good
pliant palm
i see, thanks
placid fiber
Unyielding isn't bad, if you wanna get bosses tho
I think maniac and flak is better tho
that or flak and elites...
patent patrol
Unyielding isn't bad, if you wanna get bosses tho
to be fair the heavy evisc doesn't do crazy boss damage
placid fiber
the mk15 does
patent patrol
that's mostly for the chainaxe
patent patrol
the mk15 does
the MKII really doesn't
placid fiber
Yeah I wasn't sure on it
placid fiber
I've seen people do some crazy stuff with the mk2, but, that's because it has been around much longer
Even when it sucked
patent patrol
I've seen people do some crazy stuff with the mk2, but, that's because it has be...
Yeah. If you want boss damage or horde clear, the new one does it better
tho the MKII just has more single target options
for specific picks
placid fiber
I still know the mk2's rotation, for the most part lol
Despite not having used it in... like... a year and a half
patent patrol
I completely forgot I had this.
placid fiber
Yeah
patent patrol
On the MKII?
left iron
@quaint verge
patent patrol
The MKII needs it. The other one is the one that doesn't
placid fiber
the other one you just light spam for hordes lol
patent patrol
I barreled the psyker, it redeems me
What's the vendetta against psykers these days?
I mean I know they need a couple nerfs to some weapons/abilities but
left iron
Oh, i wasnt picky, they just happened to spawn there
placid fiber
What's the vendetta against psykers these days?
smitekers
left iron
They loaded into a barrel that killed them
acoustic dune
did they go through the flor?
placid fiber
counterpoint: nuh-uh
I mean smite users is probably the biggest thing that people hate about psykers, since most, if not almost all of them, fucking suck ass with it
patent patrol
also thoughts on this? (I know it has deathspitter 2, I just haven't gotten lucky. I'll get it up soon enough.)
ornate bone
I mean I know they need a couple nerfs to some weapons/abilities but
nerfs? i thought the consensus was that psykers suck
patent patrol
nerfs? i thought the consensus was that psykers suck
No, psyker PLAYERS suck.
placid fiber
^
patent patrol
Psyker itself is INCREDIBLY broken
patent patrol
it's basically the Horde clear version of the Crit Knife build on Zealot
it DECIMATES hordes.
ornate bone
No, psyker PLAYERS suck.
right, but unfortunately this translates to a simple "psykers suck", because normal players usually aren´t able to handle hard classes.
patent patrol
right, but unfortunately this translates to a simple "psykers suck", because nor...
I disagree on that take.
Psyker players are different from the class itself.
ornate bone
and i guess that´s where the hate (used to?) come from, because you can´t avoid them in quickplay
placid fiber
right, but unfortunately this translates to a simple "psykers suck", because nor...
normal players can't handle easy classes, much less anything that is a step up
patent patrol
normal players can't handle easy classes, much less anything that is a step up
I still find ways to die on Zealot with Martyrdom in the most humiliating way possible. Then again, I'm a casual shitter so.
I'm just here for the fun and chaos, not to play optimally lmao
placid fiber
normal players can't handle easy classes, much less anything that is a step up
Give them a perfect rashad and brauto, and a perfect build with it... and they would still die horribly
ornate bone
I disagree on that take.
alright, then we just have differing empirical evidence. makes sense since "empirical" is almost synonymous with "random". just yesterday i had to resurrect a psyker FIVE times in the same spot, and that´s just a snapshot of the game lmao
ornate bone
normal players can't handle easy classes, much less anything that is a step up
wait what
patent patrol
alright, then we just have differing empirical evidence. makes sense since "empi...
No, thing is, I agree that Psyker Players suck, but just saying "Psykers suck" feels too generalistic.
Psyker itself is crazy overpowered.
it's specifically the casual audience that can't play him worth a damn
placid fiber
I've been darktiding since november/december of 2022 lol
buoyant pewter
right, but unfortunately this translates to a simple "psykers suck", because nor...
I wouldn’t exactly say Psyker is a hard class
Intricate maybe
ornate bone
I wouldn’t exactly say Psyker is a hard class
i can´t play it XD
placid fiber
psyker is a different class
buoyant pewter
Not for everyone. I’m not a huge fan of it myself.
placid fiber
with a different set of rules
patent patrol
also thoughts on this? (I know it has deathspitter 2, I just haven't gotten luck...
btw I never got your thoughts on this one @placid fiber . I know it has deathspitter 2, I'm working on it, but aside from that
buoyant pewter
psyker is a different class
Yeah I mean, it’s innately the most complex class just because it has its own risk reward system.
placid fiber
also thoughts on this? (I know it has deathspitter 2, I just haven't gotten luck...
not bad
patent patrol
Not for everyone. I’m not a huge fan of it myself.
I'm too aggressive to play a character with 100 hp and range spam.
ornate bone
Not for everyone. I’m not a huge fan of it myself.
i wish i could! but i get hit once and die, because psyker is so squishy. i´m bad at avoiding damage.
even with smite
hushed agate
I wouldn’t exactly say Psyker is a hard class
Theyre hard if you avoid smite. At early levels at least. Get tickled and your toughness is broken
left iron
The only thing making psyker harder than others is the lower base toughness pool imo, which is offset with a crazy good stam regen
hushed agate
At level 30? Easy
solid kelp
Psyker is a glass cannon that relies a lot on active defenses (dodging, blocking, pushing, good positioning) to keep itself alive, that alone does filter out a fair few players. And it's got the potential to blow itself up through its own gameplay which none of the other classes bar plasma gun vets have.
placid fiber
Yeah I mean, it’s innately the most complex class just because it has its own ri...
Being a battle wizard main in vt2, I think the hardest thing for me about peril is using most of the staves since they don't vibe very well with me
patent patrol
not bad
luckily the low reload speed really doesn't matter cause of double barrel so it's basically close to perfect. All it'd need really is higher damage I think.
buoyant pewter
Being a battle wizard main in vt2, I think the hardest thing for me about peril ...
Honestly going from DT to VT2 back to DT, I think it’s interesting that they made exploding actually kill you in DT.
ornate bone
Psyker is a glass cannon that relies a lot on active defenses (dodging, blocking...
well maybe i should give it another try after having practiced damage avoidance with zealot so much.
hushed agate
I wish they kept the slow at high peril and brought it to dt
placid fiber
I had to purposefully trigger the blow up to get the 25 explosions canceled by your career skill penance done
hushed agate
Would give you a reason not to constantly edge your peril
placid fiber
with the illisi, actually
buoyant pewter
well maybe i should give it another try after having practiced damage avoidance ...
Maybe start by using safer weapons. Knife or dueling sword. Get used to avoiding damage and constantly moving.
Dodging, sliding, sprinting, there shouldn’t really be any moment where you aren’t doing one of these things if enemies are around.
ornate bone
Maybe start by using safer weapons. Knife or dueling sword. Get used to avoiding...
i literally just tried playing psyker but i couldn´t manage to select the class over zealot because zealot is just soooo much fun
i can´t help it 😦
solid kelp
I have heard that psykers might get a talent that makes peril explosions not outright down you, might open up some interesting builds. And another one that decreases peril generation BUT also decreases toughness in some way.
patent patrol
What do y'all think of my Martyrdom loadout? I like to call it "Walking genocide"
Everything dies if it's in my face at all
buoyant pewter
I have heard that psykers might get a talent that makes peril explosions not out...
If you’re better at avoiding damage, it’s good.
placid fiber
I have heard that psykers might get a talent that makes peril explosions not out...
In other words the unchained from vt2?
buoyant pewter
Unchained was rad
left iron
I just want more staves 
buoyant pewter
Only one I actually used from Sienna
solid kelp
Pretty much
placid fiber
Unchained was rad
Unchained with the cdr on starting to blow up damage was op
left iron
Zealot has finally overtaken my psyker levels
patent patrol
Zealot has finally overtaken my psyker levels <a:pepeW:1182769651839680523>
One of us! One of us!
lol
left iron
850 total zealot to 829 total psyker
patent patrol
850 total zealot to 829 total psyker
wait where do you check that? Lol.
placid fiber
true level mod
patent patrol
true level mod
Ah. I don't download many mods. And ngl I've been having issues with mine
my mods keep corrupting some files. Not any major ones but like specific descriptions
and stuff
patent patrol
That sucks
I'm trying to figure out what mod on my short list might be causing it
placid fiber
I haven't played since the newest update, so idk if mine are still okay
patent patrol
maybe I need to download a new version of them too
that might be it. Since I didn't check if they got a new update from the patch
brazen umbra
placid fiber
no updates for mine
patent patrol
no updates for mine
I'll dm you my list, maybe we have the same ones
placid fiber
I'll dm you my list, maybe we have the same ones
These are the mods I use
fleet zealot
placid fiber
You are not Yog
buoyant pewter
I just want more staves <a:pepeW:1182769651839680523>
Getting them to add unique weapons to Ogryn is hard enough lmao, I can’t imagine them wanting to add more unique weapons to a human class when they could just add more shared ones. Ie Saul and DB
visual stream
Bandit is Yog alt account confirmed
patent patrol
These are the mods I use
I dmed you mine.
solid kelp
Getting them to add unique weapons to Ogryn is hard enough lmao, I can’t imagine...
Well, there's naturally a higher development cost for ogryn weapons since they usually require a unique animation set, I'd imagine it took some time for them to add 2-handed weapons to ogryn specifically because they also had to add a full thirdperson 2-hand weapon animation set to the game. If they wanted to add a 2-handed sword to veteran they can reuse a chunk of the thirdperson animations they made for the zealot's eviscerator, for instance.
But since we have ogryn two-handers now, any future ogryn two-handed weapons would probably be quicker to implement, so long as the same animations would work.
Also GW's selectivity with lore
placid fiber
Gotta love fatshark coding, am I rite?
solid kelp
Ogryns not having a ton of varied representations in the lore is both a boon and a bane, since on one hand it means FS are in a spot where they HAVE to give GW new ideas on ogryn weaponry, forcing GW to consider whether or not it'd work. On the other hand, it does increase development time a little bit since GW has to make its own judgements before saying "yeah you can go ahead with that."
solid kelp
Gotta love fatshark coding, am I rite?
Eh, if you can reuse something that works well that usually beats having to create completely new assets.
hushed knoll
Drunk on champagne!
YAAAAAS
hushed knoll
850 total zealot to 829 total psyker
Hello ice we love you ice
left iron
Hello ice we love you ice
Excuse you, its KIBING THE EUCHJIRMONT to you
hushed knoll
Excuse you, its KIBING THE EUCHJIRMONT to you
No
left iron
obsidian ore
These are the mods I use
Get disconnect mod bro
Stops you from having infinite loading screens
Also you can leave game end screens way faster which is great
solar gorge
loading in the mourningstar yesterday literally took me 10 minutes
idk what's going on in there but fatshar
obsidian ore
You should try dc mod as well
I quit out to character selection the moment loading screen feels too long
Saves time
solar gorge
i would've forced the program to stop but i ate dinner while it loaded
copper hawk
Ash baby
obsidian ore
I’ve seen one a while ago but need to find it
patent patrol
You all think this is better than my old one? Less mobility for like 3% higher range. I'm gonna see what the final blessing is of course. If it's not what I want I might earn deathspitter 3 just to upgrade my old one but stat wise do you all think it's better?
I mean Mobility is a dump stat but idk
placid fiber
Eh, good question... it does have slightly better range...
it also lets you pick another perk besides flak
I'd say go for it, but, keep the other one
patent patrol
I'd say go for it, but, keep the other one
If the last blessing is what I want it'll be even better.
placid fiber
Yeah
placid fiber
🙏
patent patrol
🙏
Watch me get gimped out of the perfect weapon lmao.
Well tbf it'll still be close to perfect even with 20% flak but
I want that 5% man
placid fiber
I feel that
I mean even if you got gimped out of the stat, you can fix that in the itemization update
patent patrol
please game give me both barrels. PLEASE!
patent patrol
I mean even if you got gimped out of the stat, you can fix that in the itemizati...
TRUE
I will get that 5%
if I don't I will be very upset lmao
nah not really but It WOULD be my first basically perfect weapon
if I do get that 5%
patent patrol
You could also keep carapace damage for the lulz
nah.
I prefer flak-maniac on that thing
placid fiber
Just imagine what Cole would say if he saw it tho xD
patent patrol
Just imagine what Cole would say if he saw it tho xD
what about it?
placid fiber
what about it?
Honestly both barrels really helps with keep deathspitter up so that would be nice
I used that shotgun on my Vet for a little bit. I liked it, especially on the Vet
Idk how I would feel about it on the Zealot, tbh, asside from more close range damage...
placid fiber
Nope
smoky pewter
ugh
placid fiber
I think we all know that feeling lol
Even if we could get a 1/10th trading ratio for that to plasteel I think it would still pay off
fleet zealot
placid fiber
Nice cosine and double tangent
grizzled aspen
I can hear that in my head...
left iron
Find a group, do the twins using the bell
acoustic dune
the twin
grizzled aspen
That's the one where you gotta be under 1 wound, right?
grizzled aspen
Easiest way is doing the Karnak Twins fight. When you do the bell skip, a bomber spawns behind you and you can cook your toes in the fire.
Then just do the fight without going down.
acoustic dune
Then just do the fight without going down.
if go down hope its at the very end
placid fiber
sit in a poxwalker horde and heavy sword them after they hurt you
acoustic dune
god i wanna do slaneshi thing to the twin tomboy and twink
grizzled aspen
"There is nothing but the abyss" is the one you're doing.
grizzled aspen
Basically, run fotf, have a poxwalker horde proc until death on purpose, and then use your ability and mince them.
placid fiber
as long as your teammates don't kill them you will get the full heal in under 1/4th the time
grizzled aspen
make sure you only equip that perk only
They need holy revenant.
That's how the penance works.
acoustic dune
That's how the penance works.
yeah yeah taht
placid fiber
I did that one when you had to do a full heal with it
grizzled aspen
You have to heal the maximum amount that holy revenant allows.
acoustic dune
You have to heal the maximum amount that holy revenant allows.
iz pretty easy too
i would say get a hammer
and thunder someone
placid fiber
I mean that works too
opaque island
im pretty sure its based on the damage of the swing and not the health of the enemy too
grizzled aspen
It is based on the damage dealt while until death is active, yes.
So a thunder hammer could pull it off.
Easier to just blender a poxwalker horde, though.
hard nexus
im pretty sure its based on the damage of the swing and not the health of the en...
yah u can just thammer a pox walker and get a full heal
it was funny back when we had feats
when HR was a full heal
you could thunder hammer anything and you’d get full health
opaque island
HR is already pretty OP thats just insane
hard nexus
HR is already pretty OP thats just insane
HR is in a fine spot now imo, though i run it it doesn’t matter much because when i die its usually due to getting trapped or just a situation that it doesn’t matter
full rend ?
r you sure u don’t mean with charge
left iron
Slide damage reduction was funny as well
And vets taking double damage while sprinting
opaque island
HR is in a fine spot now imo, though i run it it doesn’t matter much because whe...
same, though every now and then i get HR procced by a sneaky poxwalker behind me, and my teamates kill everything around us so i cant get my heal
and just die to a breeze
hard nexus
And vets taking double damage while sprinting
they deserved it
hard nexus
same, though every now and then i get HR procced by a sneaky poxwalker behind me...
yeah it’s also fun because i get to play super recklessly on my evis/crusher builds
oh the mk15?
it’s not weak
just super sing target focused
rocky nacelle
hard nexus
is it
hard nexus
mk15 better than mk2 once you do the qq trick
why qq? just to keep the horizontal lights?
ember yew
Chainsword mk13 entered the chat:
rocky nacelle
why qq? just to keep the horizontal lights?
L1 qq cancelling
is faster than L123
and it stunlocks chaff
hard nexus
ah
paper harness
May I interest you in a horde clear weapon with 2 power blessings
rocky nacelle
inb4 psword
hard nexus
i prefer mk2 because it just feels so much nicer
opaque island
h1
if yall are talking about the OG evisc (I can never remember the variant numbers) my go to is H1 L2 L3 PA and repeat
hard nexus
bonk
opaque island
works pretty well for me
rocky nacelle
Mk2 feels good but only when im doing H1 and L1
hard nexus
if yall are talking about the OG evisc (I can never remember the variant numbers...
yeah the mk2 is the original mk15 is the new
rocky nacelle
I like the single target attacks on the mk2 though
when im trying to kill an annoying ST
opaque island
^
hard nexus
i feel like i only really lose out on boss damage with the mk15
crusher kills are about as easy
rocky nacelle
15 better for bosses
because iirc it has 1 more chainsaw tick (also the rip heavy attack does more in general)
hard nexus
and more damage in general
opaque island
favorite part of the evisc is cutting Bulwarks reapers and crushers in half at the waist
hushed agate
because iirc it has 1 more chainsaw tick (also the rip heavy attack does more in...
Wait really
Why
hard nexus
favorite part of the evisc is cutting Bulwarks reapers and crushers in half at t...
real
opaque island
you're joking
opaque island
is this using some kinda exploit or something
slate haven
Yo what heavy sword should I build?
rocky nacelle
I can potentially see it with Duellist + chainsaw + chastise
opaque island
like I need to see this to believe it
hushed agate
thats the difference
The singular extra tick seems like an oversight
rocky nacelle
but not 5 seconds
hushed agate
So weird
north sedge
🤔
rocky nacelle
15 is good for bosses but im not jacking 5 seconds unless I see it
rocky nacelle
👍
north sedge
Is that what Stan said instead of god damn you? lol
hushed agate
Isnt chain weapons bugged with stealth
rocky nacelle
thats what we've been told
hushed agate
Well not bugged but doesn't work
rocky nacelle
thats why im interested
I asked around
if you could chainsaw
into shroud
like you can with chastise
like I said ima just need to see what stealth evisc does
north sedge
shroud effects the first hit, not the full rev
rocky nacelle
to understand it
rocky nacelle
shroud effects the first hit, not the full rev
yea exactly so I gotta see this
hushed agate
shroud effects the first hit, not the full rev
Actually so lame
Feels like there's a couple good weapons with stealth
frosty herald
Either have shroud be active for the full rev
hushed agate
And the rest are not viable
rocky nacelle
yea a knife a TH and thats it
frosty herald
Or make shroud decloak when you cancel a rev by dodging or the full rev animation
opaque island
sex
please dont mention sex, im a recovering horny addict, than you for your understanding
rocky nacelle
unironically if you have marty + dmg stimm + if shroudfield worked on the rev chainsaw
thats probably a DH 1 shot
with duellist
to the head
frosty herald
Nope
placid fiber
Yeah
opaque island
the most ive ever been able to do is 2 shot a DH with crucis
placid fiber
With perfectionist?
frosty herald
Revving does the most damage on the final tick
rocky nacelle
the most ive ever been able to do is 2 shot a DH with crucis
did that last week
in that same week I 3 shotted a Pogryn and a CS
lmfao
opaque island
Revving does the most damage on the final tick
yea i see that when im revving a Pogryn with the Mk 2
and the last tick is where all the damage is on the helath bar
rocky nacelle
do you shortcut into H2 josh
opaque island
do you shortcut into H2 josh
with the crucis?
rocky nacelle
thats what I do vs bosses on the mk2 anyway
placid fiber
the mk2
rocky nacelle
no you said mk2
placid fiber
eviscerator
opaque island
how do you shortcut to the h2
frosty herald
Yup so dodging when revving is quite detrimental
rocky nacelle
and thats how you mk2 H2 shortcut
opaque island
and thats unironically helpful
rocky nacelle
Yup so dodging when revving is quite detrimental
this is why imo eviscerators have a small skill check window imo
dodging out of revs
its quite annoying to leave something at 1 hp
opaque island
Yup so dodging when revving is quite detrimental
also didnt know this
rocky nacelle
and its also annoying to rev into something and get 1 shotted
because you didnt dodge
placid fiber
Yep lol
frosty herald
Twbs is mandatory for evis
rocky nacelle
the dichotomy of evisc
rocky nacelle
So it's like the the ironhelm?
yes
do you guys not like
push into heavy?
to test shit
lmfao
placid fiber
push into heavy?
I mostly use simple weapons lol
opaque island
not really, if im pushing its usually to use the Push attack
frosty herald
I have a full health build so i can rev without being punished too hard
opaque island
or to make space
rocky nacelle
well long story short
if you see weapons have strikedown in their combo routes
they might have shortcuts into them
placid fiber
Push into heavy isn't exactly useful on the Rashad, and idk if it is useful on the heavy sword mk 6 either lol
rocky nacelle
i.e Ironhelm -> push -> H3 , mk2 -> push -> H2
and for knife mk3 thats why you see people spamming punch special
it just loops heavy strikedowns for you
rocky nacelle
Push into heavy isn't exactly useful on the Rashad, and idk if it is useful on t...
why would you bring this up if you know its pointless or not useful
lmfao
like
placid fiber
and for knife mk3 thats why you see people spamming punch special
Doesn't it work for the mk6 as well?
rocky nacelle
put 2 and 2 together my guardian
rocky nacelle
Doesn't it work for the mk6 as well?
yes
placid fiber
why would you bring this up if you know its pointless or not useful
You asked if we test pushing into a heavy attack
fleet zealot
placid fiber
Nice howler monkeys
fleet zealot
Nice howler monkeys
i'll make u howl
rocky nacelle
You asked if we test pushing into a heavy attack
fair enough, but to say out loud that something is redundant or "not useful"
I just dont see where it helps
but again I did ask if you guys push into heavy
so once again
placid fiber
fair enough, but to say out loud that something is redundant or "not useful"
I was simply explaining why I haven't done more of it on my end
frosty herald
Lebron james reportedly dodging into crusher
rocky nacelle
crusher is different cause ur not pushing you actually push attack and then H1, and if im wrong ill just go test it real quick to remember
placid fiber
crusher is different cause ur not pushing you actually push attack and then H1, ...
for strikedown attacks?
rocky nacelle
Lebron james reportedly dodging into crusher
lebron james reportedly shines light on daemonhost
asked to leave atoma
placid fiber
lebron james reportedly shines light on daemonhost
I tell randos about the flashlight triggering a daemonhost every time just in case they actually didn't know that
which... a lot don't know about that... that are level 30
buoyant pewter
Yeah that’s kind of what I was thinking. They’re really trying to lessen the unique weapon load, which I think is very smart.
opaque island
Man i knew we were gonna make it when i was playing lights out with another vet and they turned off their light without me having to say anything
good team
buoyant pewter
I just still wish Ogryn had more variety haha
rocky nacelle
well it explains alot that 1. they dont play lights out to interact with a fuck ton of DHs and 2. they dont really explain it(flashlight mechanic)
placid fiber
Man i knew we were gonna make it when i was playing lights out with another vet ...
I've only seen that only like 1 or 2 times x.x
frosty herald
lebron james reportedly shines light on daemonhost
Lebron james reportedly crowning the witch with the pump shotgun
placid fiber
well it explains alot that 1. they dont play lights out to interact with a fuck...
True
rocky nacelle
I only know flashlight mechanic by proxy of being a l4d2 player
buoyant pewter
well it explains alot that 1. they dont play lights out to interact with a fuck...
Hug like lights out until he cannot see hands.
rocky nacelle
and (I think it makes sense)
rocky nacelle
dont have to worry about flashlighting the witch if shes roaming
hushed agate
left iron
Melee the witch coward
buoyant pewter
rocky nacelle
Melee the witch coward
got the homeboy that achievement and we did it on expert realism
like 2 months ago
buoyant pewter
Pressed the wrong one
placid fiber
since you can crown her on expert
My friends were good at that, I never learned how to do it properly
rocky nacelle
My friends were good at that, I never learned how to do it properly
aim at her upper back/neck
hard nexus
l4d2 is fun but it’s one of those games where i feel there’s not much room for skill expression
rocky nacelle
it helps if you're using a auto/spas-12 (you get 2-3 shots)
wooden/chrome shotgun crowning
now thats for the gamers
1 shot or die
hard nexus
wooden/chrome shotgun crowning
is there a difference between the two
placid fiber
wooden/chrome shotgun crowning
I'm pretty sure they did it with those as well lol
hard nexus
ah
hard nexus
frosty herald
This has to be the worst one
rocky nacelle
This has to be the worst one
wait yamcha went out with bulma?
placid fiber
hard nexus
This has to be the worst one
lebron james caught trying to parry with knuckleblaster
rocky nacelle
l4d2 is fun but it’s one of those games where i feel there’s not much room for s...
wrong
frosty herald
If you skip og dragon ball your an opps
rocky nacelle
with the ability to BHOP and actual speedrun skips from said bhopping
placid fiber
l4d2 is fun but it’s one of those games where i feel there’s not much room for s...
There was skill expression, it's just... the weapons had less feel to them for the most part
rocky nacelle
l4d2 has alot of shit
left iron
Cutting smoker tongues with a melee weapon before they get you
frosty herald
L4d2 is quite complex