zealot-class

[burnt ivy]

Ranged damage...as a Zealot doesn't matter to me since...Snub revolver + Surgical 4 and damage.

[placid fiber]

oh mb, it went over my head lol

[rough galleon]

Nah it's all good it woulda come across like that

[placid fiber]

I blame, uh... Bandit

[red swift]

Personally nothing goes over my head. Reflexes and all that

[placid fiber]

For not posting more ferret pictures

[obsidian ore]

yeah pretty much

went over the basics in vc

[rough galleon]

Nothing goes over my head, thanks to my chaos dwarf hat

[obsidian ore]

it was a little too much to explain over text

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-disgusted-shocked-gif-18281147417641229467

i have the knowledge now

[burnt ivy]

I just prefer to dumb it down and explain in details that matter rather than the .001s and things that don't matter in game

[rough galleon]

Love a bit of marty

What a guy

[rocky nacelle]

everything that was explained

did have a place in the game

and was pretty concise and short

worth the time

[burnt ivy]

Ah nice

[placid fiber]

Interesting, aggressive crowd writing

[naive stirrup]

i may be psyop'ing myself but...precog + riposte on a crit build is uh, idk but i can't get consistent damage with it

[naive stirrup]

mk3 knife

[naive stirrup]

im going back to axes fuck this

[burnt ivy]

Personally I wouldn't fuck it

But you do you

[naive stirrup]

killing you

[spare talon]

god the dodges on the psword suck so much ass

[naive stirrup]

with hammers

[burnt ivy]

[rocky nacelle]

god roll

[median steeple]

usually doesn't matter all that much since you kill everything

[red swift]

psword on weapon specialist and you're bing chilling

[naive stirrup]

game give me a chaxe with a defense dump i beg

[burnt ivy]

The pool noodle sword, no way

[placid fiber]

Too much damage, you will make others feel inadequate

[rough galleon]

They had to make it able to stagger ragers otherwise vets would get hard countered by being unable to move more than a foot, twice

[burnt ivy]

This man's got a paper towel roll so long it's considered a sword

[obsidian ore]

That’s why your pair it with a fast mobile weapon

I dodge with my revo when I’m playing ps

If I need distance

[rough galleon]

Nono, that's why you dump mobility on it
Really silo yourself

[naive stirrup]

ok what does shredder actually do on the mk4 chaxe?

oh that's the special

[rough galleon]

Fights the ninja turtles

[naive stirrup]

ok

[rocky nacelle]

found something with a good base for that Tknife meme

[burnt ivy]

When the funny axe gets stuck and chews on someone that is the shred

[rocky nacelle]

cleaving knives time

[obsidian ore]

Oh god mk4 axe

[burnt ivy]

It's hungry

[obsidian ore]

I buried my memories related to that weapon deep in my brain crevices

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/fatty-kirby-eating-vaccum-hungry-gif-16164445

[burnt ivy]

The mk4 chaxe is hungry, you need to feed it, it craves flesh

Feed it

feed it

[placid fiber]

I'm feeding it as fast as I can! @burnt ivy

[rocky nacelle]

what should I do to make this better

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/sadcat-gif-25701972

[obsidian ore]

Now mk12 chainaxe with headtaker slaughterer is a weapon of slaneesh

[naive stirrup]

slaughterer + headtaker for blessing?

[rocky nacelle]

(I wanna use it for cleaving Tknives cause of manstopper)

[spare talon]

scattershot

[rocky nacelle]

so maybe no respite for scattershot

[placid fiber]

for the mk4

[burnt ivy]

Tbh I solo'd a Plague Ogryn with it once lmao

[naive stirrup]

ye

[rocky nacelle]

what about the perkz

[placid fiber]

I was answering, not asking

[naive stirrup]

ok LOL

[spare talon]

idk if there are any breakpoints on crit tknives

[obsidian ore]

Thats a good idea imo

[placid fiber]

the mk 12 gets thrust with headtaker/slaughterer

[spare talon]

that weapon perks would affect

[naive stirrup]

idk if i want maniac + carapace or maniac + flak

[placid fiber]

the mk4 is headtaker and slaughterer

[rocky nacelle]

tknife launcher

[obsidian ore]

Scattershot procs work with your throwing knives

[red swift]

on precog crit knife idk

I always go unyielding on knife so

[rocky nacelle]

hmm maybe i just go 25% flak?

[naive stirrup]

prolly flak over carapace

[red swift]

no replace cara

[obsidian ore]

Change carapace

[red swift]

that wont do anything

[obsidian ore]

Go maniac for breakpoints on knife

[naive stirrup]

i have manic as the lock

[rocky nacelle]

they might be talkin 2 me

which cleaving ragers with a tknife

sounds appetizing

[red swift]

you like maniac over other perks on knife?

[naive stirrup]

flakiac

[obsidian ore]

I’m talking to paradise ye

[red swift]

why not flak with the bleed

[naive stirrup]

oh mb

[red swift]

or in general

[obsidian ore]

Throwing knives not combat blafr

[red swift]

oh

[rocky nacelle]

its made

🧑‍🍳

[obsidian ore]

Great throwing knife stick

[red swift]

You can still one shot ragers with damage bufffs like sustained and IJ

without maniac

[rocky nacelle]

i can 1 shot ragers normally with a tknife

I think most of my things have maniac

on em

[red swift]

needs a buff of some sort

[rocky nacelle]

(not dreg ragers)

[obsidian ore]

Yes, he wants to use the shotgun as a knife launcher

[rocky nacelle]

they need 1 more hit

[red swift]

oh wtf

[obsidian ore]

So flak maniac is good

[red swift]

go off ig

[placid fiber]

go or get with that off?

[red swift]

go off like

break a leg

or 2

[obsidian ore]

On combat blades I go flak unyielding

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-oh-snap-snap-snaps-doll-gif-5056830350271871984

[rocky nacelle]

lets give er a whirl

[obsidian ore]

Lookin good mate

[placid fiber]

but does it have enough cheese?

That's the real question

[rocky nacelle]

provolone

[placid fiber]

Good enough

[rocky nacelle]

its the quality of the cheese that matters

[placid fiber]

Though you will be docked 8 points

[obsidian ore]

0.4 secs between qq cancels is perfect

I tested it a lot

[obsidian ore]

Most consistent is 0.4

[paper harness]

Yes

[naive stirrup]

cinderblock to your teeth dorn

[obsidian ore]

Ogryn rock to your teeth

[rocky nacelle]

now the only thing to do is practice the qqing

[paper harness]

I’m sorry you can’t keep consistent dps on the knife

[naive stirrup]

it's more of im getting complacent and need to use something else

[paper harness]

Skill issue

Become a crusher

[red swift]

I hope uncanny isn't killed though. I don't think it's egregious enough compared to riposte + precog or the duelist talent.

[patent patrol]

That's just an oversized needle lmao

[naive stirrup]

chaxe time

[burnt ivy]

Feed your mk4 chaxe

Or it'll get grumpy

[patent patrol]

Anyone know the answer to this btw

[finite trellis]

The Omnissiah finally saw worth in me

[red swift]

flamer used blaze away

overpressure doesnt work on DoT damage

[burnt ivy]

Radius could be better but other than that, gud

[red swift]

so dont do that

then take either quickflame or inspiring barrage

make sure burn is 78% or higher

[finite trellis]

I just need to replace fan the flames and this will prolly be the best flamer I've ever gotten

[red swift]

yeah use blaze away

forgot showstopper is fine too

[finite trellis]

Showstopper has been really fun on STG

[obsidian ore]

I prefer inspiring barrage but this flamer’s also gonna work

[patent patrol]

So wait what does the flamer run? Blaze away and what can I put in the last slot?

[red swift]

I'm the guy he made that video on btw

[obsidian ore]

Blaze away is needed

[spare talon]

what video

[red swift]

make sure you gett the 25% ranged damage talent too, since it applies to DoT damage

[obsidian ore]

I prefer flak unyielding // blaze away + inspiring barrage on my flamer

[red swift]

the uncanny strike one

[patent patrol]

Why're we bringing up Tanner again? What'd he do now?

[red swift]

he's done nothing

[spare talon]

quickflame and inspiring barrage both work there

personal preference on which you pick

[patent patrol]

so quickflame, inspiring barrage or apparently showstopper. Cause apparently that's pretty good too.

[rocky nacelle]

ive just heard the normal version of a song I normally hear in a breakcore remix

and it doesnt feel real

[spare talon]

it isnt really

[finite trellis]

I may have a problem

[obsidian ore]

I’d say try unyielding. Burning bosses bulwarks and reapers faster is better imo compared to lil dmg increase on elites

[finite trellis]

(I rarely used flamers ever on this character)

[rocky nacelle]

oh I had unyielding on it before I swapped to elite actually

[finite trellis]

Like the last time I picked up a flamer was uhhh
Pre-patch 13

[rocky nacelle]

cause I hated bulwarks

lmfao

[obsidian ore]

Unyielding burns em better lmao

[rocky nacelle]

was just testing the difference

and i like unyielding

for bulwark spam more

[red swift]

fuck bulwarks

go unyielding

[rocky nacelle]

more like minded people

[obsidian ore]

Yep thats why I was saying that

[rocky nacelle]

finally

[acoustic dune]

wtf is up with today damnation

it feel harder then usual

[rocky nacelle]

fuck fat people

unyielding damage

[acoustic dune]

i mean eh

[patent patrol]

So wait do y'all run unyielding flak then?

[acoustic dune]

well

[red swift]

Yeah fuck obese people

[obsidian ore]

Mobility 46 oof

[red swift]

I mean bulwarks

[acoustic dune]

https://tenor.com/view/freak-freddie-freaker-yellow-monster-gif-14025823

[red swift]

I do

[naive stirrup]

damn the average qp match today is just
queue
spawn in the middle of a dead run
2 bosses alive
die
repeat

[obsidian ore]

It is what it is

[rocky nacelle]

its ok I never run with it out, everytime I pull it out im 100% planting my feet and using that inspiring barrage lmfao

[obsidian ore]

Still a great flamer

[rocky nacelle]

but yeah the dodges do be a lil ass on it

[obsidian ore]

Flamethrower backwards dancing is a good skill to learn indeed

[burnt ivy]

Quickplay hell is just queue into a dead run with "Genestealer" equivalent teammates

[patent patrol]

What would you run with knife tho? hm.

[acoustic dune]

you doge with the blame thrower?

[rocky nacelle]

ive dodged many a crusher overhead with this

even with minimal ass dodge it has

its so useful

[obsidian ore]

Thy wrath be swift my beloved

[red swift]

Unyielding and something else idk. Elite damage, flak, cara, crit chance

[obsidian ore]

Together with inspiring barrage means you burn the entire tertium and be fine on toughness

[red swift]

Every time I try a game without thy wrath be swift I get pissed off at something and turn it back on

[rocky nacelle]

you guys want a real flamer meme

get inspiring barrage

and toughness on momentum stacks

[rocky nacelle]

enjoy never getting smacked out of flamer

[patent patrol]

aw damn.

[obsidian ore]

I’ve never had any builds that didn’t have thy wrath because of this

And I made over 100+

[obsidian ore]

But… but I already do this lmao

[naive stirrup]

holy shit

why am i getting queued with actual children rn

[rough galleon]

SBMM

[rocky nacelle]

well hamdol you've done everything ive probably already thought of

I just havent asked yet

[naive stirrup]

stfu ty

[burnt ivy]

The genestealers are in your lobby, welcome to quickplay

[obsidian ore]

Let’s go gambling! AW DANGIT

[red swift]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-and-ok-and-gif-21476391

Weakest charge user vs. Strongest stealth abuser

[naive stirrup]

i would like ONE decent teammate

ONE

is all i ask for

[obsidian ore]

Feel free to ask anything you have in your mind here or in dms

[rocky nacelle]

but because you've done everything i probably could consider as a build that means I have a good point of reference

[patent patrol]

Can't wait for the overhaul to this system

[burnt ivy]

We getting all the Genestealer teammates today

[rocky nacelle]

for schizo building

[rocky nacelle]

will do

[burnt ivy]

Fuck it we ball, only hard carry

Rise and grind

[obsidian ore]

I’ll probably work on a darltide vid sometime

Where I talk about how to make good builds and what to think

[naive stirrup]

4
silent trappers

[obsidian ore]

Just need more fps for actual game footage while recording

[burnt ivy]

Make a Darktide videos about the great filter known as Heresy and all the Genestealer teammates stuck in it

[naive stirrup]

i cant only dodge so many with zero warning game COME ON

[paper harness]

Well

Krill issue

[burnt ivy]

Spidey sense mod

[naive stirrup]

mf i cant solo carry in an auric damnation

[red swift]

I made a video and the ogryn discord chat was shitting on it because I put knife in top tier

[rocky nacelle]

I just think its funny the end game building for darktide is just variations of builds with variations of the same weapon

[naive stirrup]

[rocky nacelle]

almost insane to think about

[naive stirrup]

i do not want to stoop that low yet

[burnt ivy]

Then suffering it is

[paper harness]

Yeah but only one of the people in there know how to play darktide

[naive stirrup]

but im about to just say fuck it

[paper harness]

And that’s avery

[obsidian ore]

I’m gonna take a look at your vids, kinda interested now

Ill also sub lol

[paper harness]

Same

[burnt ivy]

Ngl if someone uses Spidey Sense mod, I don't blame them, the game doesn't work at times with Poxbursters making 0 noise at times as well as trappers.

[rough galleon]

Just because knife is cringe doesn't mean it's not very very strong

[burnt ivy]

Things that can and will end a run

[obsidian ore]

What was your yt channel?

[red swift]

If I could make it again i'd switfch some placements around and fix the background noise on the mic but

oh well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CsH3rIXU3o

[burnt ivy]

I've died to trappers making 0 noise and Bursters making 0 noise before. Same with a silent crusher sneaking up behind the group.

[paper harness]

Fuk u hadron

[rocky nacelle]

owned

[red swift]

I made this before I knew about evisc canceling

Pretty sure I was using flesh tearer too

[placid fiber]

I've seen worse

[placid fiber]

like that

[paper harness]

where did that even come from???

[obsidian ore]

thats alright, opinions change with more information we know about things

for example

I used to not know shield of contempt didn't proc on toughness dmg

you need to take hp dmg for it to proc

[red swift]

orly

mid

[obsidian ore]

that made me drop shield of contempt from my builds

[placid fiber]

Honestly this doesn't surprise me as much as it should...

[red swift]

I've never built it cause I'm just the stereotypical selfish knife zealot

who runs ahead and gets overheaded by a crusher

[obsidian ore]

if it actually did proc on just toughness damage

it would be a S+ tier talent

its like a B at best now

[rocky nacelle]

shield of contempt

is pretty crazy though

DR wise

[obsidian ore]

real good dr yes

[rocky nacelle]

it not procing on toughness is rough though

I thought it did or used to

[obsidian ore]

never has been

[rocky nacelle]

ah rip

good balance it is

💨

[obsidian ore]

yup

[rocky nacelle]

ive always had a fond spot for good balance

just as a QoL in builds

[placid fiber]

I mean if I did use it that would save me 2 points

[rocky nacelle]

but sometimes I feel like it might not matter if its things like a crusher overhead

prolly just gotta look at my DR talents more

[obsidian ore]

good balance by itself isnt too good but

if gonig martyrdom you get extra tdr to get dmg multiplied through

if going crit setups you get %50 tdr to multiply through

lets say you were taking 100 toughness damage

%15 benediction + %40 martrydom-additivestacks + %25 good balance + %50 tdrcrit

100 dmg gets reduced to 19.25

or lets say you are going stealth knife

%50 tdrcrit + %25 good balance + %10 tdr nodes

33 dmg

[red swift]

Good balance is crazy with the true dr

[obsidian ore]

and always remember good balance is straight up dr

[red swift]

also yeah i've survived crusher overheads with good balance up

I would honestly take it over cheat death on my charge build if desperation was better

But I don't like desperation enough

[placid fiber]

Man, I've toughness tanked mauler overheads without it on my marty build... with it I could easily tank a crusher one as well lol

[obsidian ore]

desperation only matters if going for breakpoints

For example thunderhammers

[red swift]

it only matters if you're trying to get a beast of nurgle one shot clip for reddit karma

[obsidian ore]

or a build that makes use of all for nothing

[placid fiber]

but I have 172 toughness on my marty build, so mauler overheads probably are pretty easy to do

[rocky nacelle]

and you can still BoN 1shot without desperation

lmfao

[obsidian ore]

we can calculate

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[obsidian ore]

crusher overhead is 260 dmg

[placid fiber]

mauler?

[obsidian ore]

250

wait

[placid fiber]

really? I've toughness tanked those before with only 3 stacks of martyrdom tdr...

[obsidian ore]

these values got changed tho

im referring to old ones

[placid fiber]

and I mean recently

[obsidian ore]

one sec

ok found the newer ones

mauler is 300

crusher is 416

[rocky nacelle]

oof ouch my bones

[placid fiber]

Wait does 40% dr count if the damage only does toughness damage?

[obsidian ore]

it does

[placid fiber]

Oh

[obsidian ore]

dr helps for all dmg

[placid fiber]

That makes sense

[obsidian ore]

lets calculate

[placid fiber]

I mean from the emperor's thing

153 damage

yeah 172 toughness will tank that

[obsidian ore]

what dmg reduction are you running

small nodes, any tdr dr

[placid fiber]

that's not counting small nodes

only the 40% dr if the damage does over 1 wound in damage and 3 martyrdom stacks

[obsidian ore]

give me the dmg reduction nodes you are running on yourmartyr build

ill tell you how much it will do to you

[placid fiber]

this is the build https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9cd73977-7889-4639-8dba-d734b6d43c52

[paper harness]

No duelist

[placid fiber]

2 small nodes of 5% toughness dr

[obsidian ore]

only 5 stacks on martyr

[placid fiber]

I ain't giving up my 15 toughness for that

[paper harness]

Just kill them faster

[obsidian ore]

so %35

[placid fiber]

but aren't the small nodes multiplicitive and not additive?

[obsidian ore]

no they are additive

with martrydom and with each other

[placid fiber]

Well I have 25% with my normal 3 stacks of marty I have most of damnation runs

[obsidian ore]

ok so with 3 stacks

[rocky nacelle]

@obsidian ore just stun locked 9 ragers

with L1 QQ

[obsidian ore]

you'd take 265.2 dmg to your toughness

[placid fiber]

You do you, I'll do me

[obsidian ore]

welcome to the club

because it has spillover

as long as it has extra damage remaining it will penetrate your hp bar

[placid fiber]

Does this not count? Because I know I've tanked those hits with just my toughness before

[obsidian ore]

oh yeah forgot about that

it would

[visual stream]

They call it the feed because we are naught but cattle, and they are giving us naught but slop

[obsidian ore]

first it does a calculation without that talent

[rocky nacelle]

its times like this im glad im a rhythm gamer

manually QQing isnt so bad

[obsidian ore]

and after its done checks if the dmg would reduce you by one wound

[visual stream]

Society

[rocky nacelle]

thanks muse dash

[obsidian ore]

if it does applies dmg reduction

and calculates it again

[placid fiber]

weird stuff lol

[obsidian ore]

hlow much hp do you have with that build

[placid fiber]

I have +20% iirc

so 240 I think

[obsidian ore]

it won't help you survive a overhead probably tho because you are on 3 stacks of martyrdom

so you are around 160 hp ish no

you'd take exactly 159.12 dmg

[placid fiber]

I have 172 toughness

[obsidian ore]

oh yeah

[placid fiber]

Which I wouldn't have if I didn't take the extra +15 node

[obsidian ore]

you'll barely survive an overhead

xd

[placid fiber]

Then I'll pull out my autopistol, mag dump, and be able to take another lol

[obsidian ore]

I like running good balance on martyr setups because of this

makes the damage much smaller to consume

[placid fiber]

Would the 25% dr potentially make it not trigger the 40% from it doing over 1 wound in damage?

[obsidian ore]

i mean

[placid fiber]

I'm just wondering

[placid fiber]

That build has serviced me through hell and back again, it suits my playstyle extremely well

like a glove

[obsidian ore]

it might potentially do that but the damage you'd be taking would be small enough to not hit your wound bar then

[placid fiber]

True

I might think about it, but, I would probably first try it by removing sustained assault first for testing

[obsidian ore]

just bind a macro man, i feel bad for your fingers lmao

you can remove double dash

[placid fiber]

I have no cdr

but you're right

[obsidian ore]

I personally never use it so

[placid fiber]

The build is really good for me and my playstyle

so tweaking it could have disasterous effects

[obsidian ore]

ofc, I am not saying should change anything

[placid fiber]

which is why I do testing with it

[obsidian ore]

just consider it

[placid fiber]

I might test it with sustained assault gone and if I like it I might remove the double dash and test it that way

I'd much rather have good balance than duellist

[obsidian ore]

duellist is good to reach some breakpoints on rashad tho

[placid fiber]

True, but, I would have to sacrifice something I am not willing to in order to get it

[obsidian ore]

up to you tho, it's not the end of the world if you are not running duellist

[spare talon]

wait yeah why no duellist

[placid fiber]

I don't have something I am willing to sacrifice for it

for my marty build

My other builds get it

[placid fiber]

I've fine tuned my build to suit my playstyle to the t, rather than trying to min max more damage out of it

in all honesty

and yes while I could remove a 15 toughness node I've already tested that and it had more adverse effects than what duellist gave me

On my non-marty builds? Yeah, I'll throw duellist on there. I know it's good, and I am not being held back by something

I'm weird, though, as far as my playstyle goes. It is non-conventional

[hushed knoll]

Hello Dalrpic and Cole

Darkpill

[fleet zealot]

dalrpic

howdy stan

release me

[hushed knoll]

From what

[visual stream]

Hi Stan

[hushed knoll]

Hi

[rocky nacelle]

cool first game

A-I-II

the evisc swap trick is crazy but the game decided 20 ragers be upon me at the finale so I just ate shit for dmg

[placid fiber]

@hushed knoll WHO IS THIS?! (The one who typed the message)

Well the new close ranged survivor in ror2 is pretty fun lol

I still think the m1 is a reworked version of arty's fireballs lol

[fleet zealot]

it's me ferret ell

also bandit, also Zealot Amelia

[fleet zealot]

RELEASE ME PLEASE

[placid fiber]

And, according to stan, some type of Barn...

[fleet zealot]

barn business

[acoustic dune]

p gpd stam waht did he do this time

[fleet zealot]

LOOK AT ME

[acoustic dune]

WHAT DID STAN DO

[fleet zealot]

LOOK AT ME AND DESPAIR

[placid fiber]

Apparently made you type like crap

[acoustic dune]

golly

is he studying for school

[fleet zealot]

he owns a barn business

[placid fiber]

Probably can spell better than Stan can...

[acoustic dune]

damn

farming

truly a great job

[acoustic dune]

my first call off duty game was mw3

iz nice

[placid fiber]

my 1st call of duty game wa- oh wait... I didn't play one...

Not my genre of game lol

[acoustic dune]

i got to hang makarov

[rocky nacelle]

im black op 1 guy

[acoustic dune]

jhon Call of Duty BLACK OPS 1

[placid fiber]

... tells me pretty much nothing since I have no context lol

[lusty oar]

soap trusted you

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/palmolive-dish-soap-dishwashing-liquids-gif-13447633388722377172

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/frieza-halloween-frieza-eusine-gif-24044895

[opal star]

hey zealots do yall fw the shock mace

I’m looking for advice on how to use it

[fleet zealot]

it's good

you want lightning reflexes (stun and power boost on perfect block, 1 second window no CD) and either high voltage or skullcrusher (and grab some impact talents to hit that big skullcrusher number)

[spare talon]

god weapon specialist vet is so good

[copper hawk]

Hi noobs

[median steeple]

you're a

https://tenor.com/view/murder-drones-murderdrones-murder-drones-n-n-murder-drones-murder-drones-meme-gif-2920171159169824398

[copper hawk]

Ur a noob

Zzzs at u

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/sogga-big-floppa-floppa-approve-gif-22537201

[grizzled aspen]

You ever watched Lord of War? Imagine that Makarov is Nicholas Cage, but he's also a super terrorist.

And you hang him with a steel cable.

Very, very deserved.

He did gun down an entire airport of civilians with a light machine gun, among other things, after all.

[obsidian prairie]

You helped with that one

[copper hawk]

Eugh

My body is so sore

Concert fucked me up

[grizzled aspen]

I don't think the guy you play as in that mission survived, though.

Makarov does shoot you as soon as you try getting in the van.

[obsidian prairie]

You’re the same character for the entire campaign right

[grizzled aspen]

No.

Lol.

That's why the game tells you what task force the character you're playing is from before every mission.

[obsidian prairie]

Oh

Neat

I haven’t played a cod game at any point

[grizzled aspen]

Like it gives you a little briefing before every mission, telling you who you're playing and what task force you're from.

[obsidian prairie]

I just know about No Russian because the internet

[grizzled aspen]

Yeah.

Makes sense.

That was probably the best COD, storywise, that they ever released, imo.

@copper hawk for honor?

[copper hawk]

Sure noob

Psycho and bumble will join us

Currently rotting in bed rn

[grizzled aspen]

Kills you with a beeeeg ole rock.

I just tried launching mount and blade warband instead of for honor lol.

[copper hawk]

WUUUUUGH

[grizzled aspen]

Oh and shugoki's hero fest execution fucking sucks.

Imagine that.

[copper hawk]

Alright

I have limped out of bed

I dont think I'll do a run 2day

So i play 4 a while

[grizzled aspen]

I just made a poor lawbringer quit...

I was doing duels because I have a duelling executioner order and he didn't know how to feint or read...

[copper hawk]

U just bullied someone off the game forever

Good

They r saved

[grizzled aspen]

Gotta restart my game.

@copper hawk invite me to your group.

My game is being dumb and won't let me send invites...

[ivory marlin]

Im making a plasmoid druid named Goopmo goombo jambis

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/sundae-national-sundae-day-ice-cream-sundae-day-food-gif-19032967

[copper hawk]

ise cweam

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeyquote-gif-17287897282409113653

[copper hawk]

lmfao

[ivory marlin]

Im stealing that

[copper hawk]

i love this gif so much

[ivory marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gimme-that-gif-3302967658968126593

[placid fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1277781487663710390/0Z6kpwG.gif

[ivory marlin]

This car is so legs

Why it so legs

[placid fiber]

Because cat

... aren't you the one mentioning it in this instance?

[fleet zealot]

BLOOD FOR THE EMPEROR

SKULLS FOR THE GOLDEN THRONE

[obsidian ore]

.... lacerate?????????

where

[placid fiber]

I'll take it that Stan didn't give you sweet release...

[ornate bone]

I LOVE LACERATE I LOVE LACERATE I LOVE LACERATE

[lusty oar]

so does anyone like vinegar on fries

[placid fiber]

Haven't tried it, it could be good

[spare talon]

notice how he doesnt say I LOVE DEALING DAMAGE

[ornate bone]

no no, I use fleshtearer too so I deal damage!

[spare talon]

oh no its even worse

[ornate bone]

wdym even worse lacerate + fleshtearer is obviously the meta combo

[placid fiber]

Next thing we know... they're gonna say they use block efficiency and weakspot damage for the perks...

[fleet zealot]

gotta do haymaker

a oneshot is infinite damage

weakspot damage crit damage

[ornate bone]

tf are you on about buddy? sprint is way better

[fleet zealot]

cause it works on all enemies

[spare talon]

this is the way

[obsidian prairie]

Setting you on fire

[fleet zealot]

meme'ing too close to the sun cause certain people in this discord are massive sprint effic fans

(cough cough true solo cheesers)

[ornate bone]

sprint efficiency? hell no! I mean sprint bars

who cares about sprint effiency?

that stuff is overrated

this would be my ideal knife

[spare talon]

the perfect knife to eat a crusher overhead to

[ornate bone]

that's where the block effiency comes in!

[lusty oar]

shiii i've only had that once and it was a holy experience

[placid fiber]

Yeah, why kill it when you can just block it instead?

[ornate bone]

obviously you run it with the book too and matyrdom

you need to be able to tank that crusher hit

[fleet zealot]

can i get the "I'm a knife zealot so that means" with the other dude going "I don't care i'm a gunner"

that meme

i know it exists

[lusty oar]

i've only seen the dreg rager version

[fleet zealot]

maybe it was that one

[fleet zealot]

anyways you remind me of this meme

[ornate bone]

this is the build

[fleet zealot]

ew

why skip both martyrdom extensions

[lusty oar]

i found the dreg gunner one

[fleet zealot]

attack speed syncs so well with damage boosts

[ornate bone]

going for pure stat bonuses is the best play because you always get those whereas everything else is niche

trust me you need that extra toughness % to tank crusher overheads

[spare talon]

wait
were you not joking

thats actually what you run?

[placid fiber]

This makes the martyrdom build I used with the knife look good... jeeze that takes talent...

[spring spindle]

why grab Disdain?

[patent patrol]

Wonder if this would be worth copping just to see what the last blessing is. Cause the stats are good and it has rampage. dunno.

[median steeple]

@hard nexus @copper hawk @grizzled aspen

[ornate bone]

of course! did you not know? martyrdom knife tank with fleshtearer + lacerate is the peak meta!

[fleet zealot]

while skipping toughness DR

🧠

[spare talon]

i tried to find it but found this instead and my day is ruined

[fleet zealot]

we got a independent thinker here

[ornate bone]

well yeah that's why you take block effiency on the knife

[median steeple]

that shao got heated

[placid fiber]

And it ain't Stan this time lol

[grizzled aspen]

Can we get into a call please? @median steeple @copper hawk @hard nexus

[lusty oar]

pebbleyeet ashley is truly horrifying

[spare talon]

the punctuation makes me think youre joking but people have said less sane statements and been completely serious before

[grizzled aspen]

Typing so much is driving me nuts.

[median steeple]

Cica is dying and im Talking to someone atm

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/chihuahua-uncomfortable-gif-317720649137245860

[grizzled aspen]

Ah I see...

Cica needs to stop dying, then.

[lusty oar]

use ubisoft connect chat

[ornate bone]

I typically run heavy sword and eviscerator so I've been trying to get into the headspace of a knife user so I can run it more effectively

[grizzled aspen]

Explode yourself.

[ornate bone]

I assume you do that by administering blunt force trauma to your skull

[placid fiber]

It still beats Reddit...

[copper hawk]

sure

i wont be talking

my voice sounds super annoying

[ornate bone]

use xbox party

[copper hawk]

it's still fucked up from the concert

[grizzled aspen]

Damn, I don't like the sound of my own voice that much.

[copper hawk]

us too !!

[grizzled aspen]

Because it'd just be me talking.

Psycho is talking to someone already, bumble doesn't talk, and you won't be talking.

[placid fiber]

This is how streamers are made

[lusty oar]

"CHAT, I PARRIED THAT"

[placid fiber]

[spare talon]

this is what you need

[ornate bone]

taking shroud would make me a coward

unacceptable

[spare talon]

i thought you said you wanted to play knife zealot

thats the whole point!

[placid fiber]

Hah, too cowardly to use shroudfield

[spare talon]

wait the editor broke

theres no grenade

[ornate bone]

but I don't want to just dump agro on to the poor innocent psyker

[spare talon]

even better

[ornate bone]

but what about the vet?

how are they supposed to deal with 30 crushers up close?

I can't just abandon them

[spare talon]

you can

and you will

[ornate bone]

good point

I guess I'll just take loner and literally never go within 50 yards of my teammates

[placid fiber]

Meanwhile the Vet happens to be Cole and he solos them

[spare talon]

there we go

thats more like it

now i kinda wanna try this build and see if anyone takes note and sees how fucking awful it is

[lusty oar]

i did something similar with book and nobody mentioned anything

[placid fiber]

We knew thee well...

[spare talon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aafd02e-2d1f-444f-8d9e-e12295da65c1/the-bestest-most-powerfulest-build-ever

[ornate bone]

this is the build

I should be able to simply ditch my teammates and live

[spare talon]

is this a real one or a joke one

[ornate bone]

a joke although it would be funny to be the single worst zealot main ever

[grizzled aspen]

More like "chat I'm absolutely fucking dogwater at this game."

[spare talon]

i mean yeah marty knife is always a joke but that is a somewhat reasonable build considering

[placid fiber]

This, unironically, is still probably way better than a lot of the builds randos use...

[ornate bone]

there is no way

[spare talon]

just swap for scourge and itll be a decent chunk better

[grizzled aspen]

There is a way.

[spare talon]

hold on

i have a screenshot from a while back

[grizzled aspen]

You have both second wind and ewew.

[ornate bone]

that is the "ditch my teammates and try to survive without them as long as possible" build

[grizzled aspen]

AND twbs.

Those three talents alone make you very hard to kill.

[ornate bone]

there is no way that most randoms are worse

[grizzled aspen]

I promise you there is.

Lacerate flesh tearer zealouts exist.

@lusty oar please explode at your earliest convenience.

[placid fiber]

You put that much faith in them...?

[ornate bone]

this build is literally for lacerate fleshtearer

[patent patrol]

Who the hell decided the pox gas modifier was a good idea 💀

[grizzled aspen]

See?

[ornate bone]

it is designed to be the single worst zealot build ever

[grizzled aspen]

My point exactly?

[spare talon]

you didnt look at my bestest build

yours is generally reasonable outside of a few exceptions

[fleet zealot]

just grab all the extra green stims

easy

[lusty oar]

i can put you down for 14:30 on the 12th of september, this year

[grizzled aspen]

Good, I can work with that.

[ornate bone]

your build is better, it doesn't have loner

[placid fiber]

You forget: Loner keeps the zealot's base aura

[ornate bone]

wait it does?

[spare talon]

@ornate bone

[ornate bone]

haaa...

there is no way that's real

paid actor

[spare talon]

it was real

[ornate bone]

paid actor

I refuse to believe a real person made that

[placid fiber]

That was real

[ornate bone]

there is no actual way

[placid fiber]

Yep, lol

[ornate bone]

neat, I thought loner was just useless

[placid fiber]

It's 1% better than you thought it was

[ornate bone]

I don't like beacon or loner

just prefer benediction

[spare talon]

loner isnt as bad as you think

you keep the base zealot aura of 7.5% tdr with loner

[placid fiber]

@spare talon I said this lol

[ornate bone]

so does benediction not have that 7.5%?

[spare talon]

well i cant read

[placid fiber]

Neither can I

[spare talon]

benediction upgrades it to 15%

[ornate bone]

oh wait I meant beacon

[spare talon]

beacon does not

[placid fiber]

beacon doesn't have it

Beacon actually does something, though

[ornate bone]

ok I need to engineer the single worst zealot build

I can't have some random beating me on that

[placid fiber]

There's always gonna be a rando that will 1 up you on that

[rocky nacelle]

I already made it

[spare talon]

random guy on the mourningstar

[copper hawk]

single celled organism

[spare talon]

why
you have revolver

just take this

please

[copper hawk]

what's that do

i never use wpn mastery

[placid fiber]

And the reason is: The rando will think their build is good, you will have to go out of your way to copy them using your knowledge of the talent tree @ornate bone

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/low-intelligence-specimen-aarav-cat-gato-not-perro-gif-25462194

[copper hawk]

ooh

that's busted lmfao

be nice on a bolter or a revo

[ornate bone]

new zealot meta

[spare talon]

@gritty flume he has uncanny on his shovel
locked his revolver from getting handcannon
and takes the 10% rending node

which could have been spent on the ws reload node

[ivory marlin]

No

Banned

[copper hawk]

yes

[ornate bone]

sustained fire is obviously better than handcannon, were just all wrong

[ivory marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/power-word-kill-gif-11228986739389104120

[rocky nacelle]

Take stuns, immolation actually kills

smh

[copper hawk]

lmfao

[ornate bone]

ok but hear me out, stuns can save your life from 6 crushers

[rocky nacelle]

Bad build

[spare talon]

i doubt it considering both perks on the revolver was changed
that was a deliberate decision

[copper hawk]

hi noob

[placid fiber]

Still has good balance, second wind, crit dr, ewew, unyielding damage, restoring faith, 40% dr on damage doing 1 wound, duellist, twbs, cheat death, and the 60% dr on health damage with 4s duration and 10s cd

[ornate bone]

immolation does jack shit to crushers

[fleet zealot]

dnd in the morning

[copper hawk]

i dont run anything

other than knifen ow

knife now*

throwing knife*

[fleet zealot]

and my character ended the session unconcious infected with a black killer mold

YAY

[copper hawk]

i havent touched the grenades since the penances

the whole node tree going to knife is so nice

[copper hawk]

me when yummers

[ornate bone]

hear me out: bleed for the emperor

[fleet zealot]

we are canonically god slayers (a weak, newly ascended god mind you) at this point and i'm at risk of dying to an infection

what a way to go

[lusty oar]

b b bb bweed fowo da empawa

[placid fiber]

You mean 40% DR on an attack that would do a wound in damage?

[ornate bone]

tuberculosis is a hell of a thing

[spare talon]

guys do i run a weap specialist build with peesword or pooper scooper

[ornate bone]

yeah, good for martyrdom

[copper hawk]

yah

[placid fiber]

Yeah I pointed out that the build you posted had it

[copper hawk]

if u have a bajillion wounds

[fleet zealot]

i have a druid in the party so hopefully i'll be cured soon

[placid fiber]

Still helps with crusher and mauler hits

even with no bonus wounds

[copper hawk]

better than ur char being eaten by a toad

[fleet zealot]

(except he didn't take any cure or restoration spells so he has to do medicine checks xd)

[copper hawk]

then then the party not looking for her after the ambush

[fleet zealot]

our druid is a toad actually

[copper hawk]

so she dies in the most horrific way imaginable

[ornate bone]

and snipers

[fleet zealot]

a grung

[ornate bone]

I hate snipers

[copper hawk]

this is where my fear of being eaten came from

i dont want 2 fear mold too

i love mold..

[placid fiber]

and probably poxbursters

[fleet zealot]

my last apartment had mold

[ornate bone]

you can shove those silly dudes though

[fleet zealot]

and terrible paintjob in the bathroom, it was peeling terribly

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-darktide-darktide-oryx-gif-14283469670598028816

[spare talon]

im also considering evilmaxxing (dropping field improv for +weakpoint on ability use buff for vet knife build)

[placid fiber]

Your teammates can blow them up in your face too

[ornate bone]

the psyker is only half crazed, they would never do such a thing!

I mean they do keep going on about how their "beloved" is telling them to kill us all but...

[placid fiber]

If you had seen the randos I've had... Hell you've probably had at least 50% of them as well lol

Saying they are useless is an insult to useless players

That's how bad they were lol

[spare talon]

ok yeah no this fucks

[ornate bone]

if only we could brand bad teammates as heretics and publicly execute them

I mean they are practically trying to sabotage us

[placid fiber]

I mean: Comparing the bot's skill level to theirs, would be like comparing our skill level to the average somewhat competent darktide gamer

[sullen forge]

This for knife only or like you comboing in gun with it?

Cause im shocked you're not taking Superiority Complex with it

[grizzled aspen]

@median steeple @hard nexus I'll come back after rashuns.

[spare talon]

the only change was moving field improv to marksman

and yes this is a knife focused build

with db for group clear

cuz WS+manstopper does in fact stop the men

[hearty nebula]

hello again

[sullen forge]

Huh, Im just so demanding on taking Superiority in my builds cause that Elite damage helps so damn much

[hearty nebula]

I wish I had manstopper

[sullen forge]

Manstopper + What blessing

cause i have a very silly

one I should show off here in a second

[ornate bone]

ok what do you all think of this as an actual real build?

[hearty nebula]

crit one i forget the name of

[sullen forge]

Scattershot?

[spare talon]

for knife? pretty good

[hearty nebula]

i just woke back up

[spare talon]

scatter yeah

[lusty oar]

WAKE ME UP INSIDE

[spare talon]

in case i want to fire 2 shots in a row

[sullen forge]

Yeah thats a good combo

[ornate bone]

as a heavy sword mk9 crit build

[copper hawk]

what weapon

heavy sword.. crit.. build...

[sullen forge]

See me on the other hand I run WS so I can have more flexibility with my blessings

[ornate bone]

of course

[copper hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/cyn-cyn-murder-drones-glitch-productions-murder-drones-murder-drones-episode-5-gif-18404260574287598487

[sullen forge]

and thus I made the abomination im about to send here in a minute

[ornate bone]

heavy sword is great

what do you have against heavy sword?

[spare talon]

@sullen forge +elites doesnt actually reach any breakpoints besides a non crit heavy against a scab shotgunner

[placid fiber]

Some people don't like nice things

[sullen forge]

Wait I know why

I run HHA

[ornate bone]

heavy sword crit is fun

[sullen forge]

Thats why I feel like i hammer it into myself

[ornate bone]

run into horde

horde dead

[spare talon]

yeah this weakpoint one gives me a little more damage and applies to everything

[sullen forge]

Check this swag (Abomination) out

[spare talon]

so i can use it to implode bosses harder

[ornate bone]

here's the one I've got

[placid fiber]

I've seen randos with much worse orange gear

[sullen forge]

CEO of Flechette btw

I just like it

[lusty oar]

this is the peak double barrel build

[sullen forge]

even though its shit

[grizzled aspen]

Hadron bricking everything she can the moment the words "crafting update" were announced:

[sullen forge]

I really like its gimmick

[spare talon]

i would use it if there were more bleed stacks applied

[placid fiber]

I mean seeing a shotgun like that would tell me that it is purposefully built like that, at least

[sullen forge]

I run this with it and I also have serrated blade talent

[spare talon]

4 is just too low

[ornate bone]

hadron prayed for bricks

[sullen forge]

so like I guess I get more out of it

[sullen forge]

ITEMIZATION IS BUFFING IT RAGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! T2 WAS 6 STACKS!!!!

[spare talon]

yeah im excited to see if it starts being something worth running

[rocky nacelle]

so funny knife shotgun works

[spare talon]

same here

[spare talon]

yes
ive been playing it longer than gunker melee actually

[rocky nacelle]

I get crit and then I just pierce an entire group of heretics like a shishkebab

[spare talon]

my vet is almost 100 levels higher

[sullen forge]

Lvl 622 Veteran

[spare talon]

oh you meant manstopper tknives

[sullen forge]

spot the Veteran main

[rocky nacelle]

I’m talking about the forbidden man stopping tknives

[sullen forge]

Uncanny tknives are also really dumb

[rocky nacelle]

I’m the only one gunkering around now smh

[rocky nacelle]

these are funnier

[spare talon]

i dont think you comprehend how fucking stupid this build is

im nigh unkillable

and im playing like an absolute baboon

[rocky nacelle]

sounds like the average voc vet though no?

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[spare talon]

no the average voc vet uses plasma

[sullen forge]

I felt obligated making this build Moebian 6th

[spare talon]

im in the middle of all the shotgunners instead

[sullen forge]

I literally never die with it

[ornate bone]

are you all talking about martyrdom?

[spare talon]

WS knife db vet with voc

[ornate bone]

don't play vet

is it worth it?

[placid fiber]

When I see WS I keep reading waystalker...

[sullen forge]

You should play vet

[rocky nacelle]

I need to have a man stopper knife cleave through 8 ragers

[sullen forge]

as a lvl 622 Vet main

[obsidian ore]

having fun with forbidden knife tech i see

[sullen forge]

if you want to play a class thats a good hybrid between melee + ranged

play it

[ornate bone]

but then I'd have to level a new class to 30

oh well I guess it'll be worth it maybe

are the vet commendations terrible?

or whatever they were called

achievements?

oh penances

[sullen forge]

Ehhhh

not really?

they're just tedious

[placid fiber]

You can still throw t4 lascerate on the Vet's knife, while it's leveling.

[sullen forge]

unless you're talking about on overwatch

thats the only "bad" one

but its easy to do now

[ornate bone]

I suffered through zealot penances and I don't want to do it again

[sullen forge]

Its literally just

grindy

[placid fiber]

Don't do the penances then

lol

[sullen forge]

like Ogryn

[ornate bone]

but the cosmetics

you don't understand

[sullen forge]

That or suck it up like I did cause I wanted the loyalist 6th set

[ornate bone]

I NEED the cosmetics

[placid fiber]

I do, kind of.

[median steeple]

I just wish some other penances were worth more

like the 500 mission ones

why are those only 5

[ornate bone]

now what's the vet meta character creation?

is there an objectively best home world?

I know Cadia is the worst

[placid fiber]

[median steeple]

I mean I picked cadia just for the purple eyes but don't use cutthroat

[ornate bone]

also what's the vet personality meta like?

[ornate bone]

wait what it changes eye color?

shit what's the eye color meta

[median steeple]

yes cadia allows purple eyes

the only one that does

[fleet zealot]

My gf uses female pro and i basically only hear it playing with her lol

[placid fiber]

You get 2 extra eye color choices with choosing cadia

[undone pewter]

Arguably Cadia would be meta so you have all the personalities

[copper hawk]

mm no keystone

[fleet zealot]

Male pro and both loose cannons are good

[copper hawk]

pukes everywhere

[rocky nacelle]

F Loose Cannon

everything else is wrong

[ornate bone]

damn I guess I go Cadia

[copper hawk]

i love loose cannon

[rocky nacelle]

well I hate you

[median steeple]

I love how snarky prof is

[ornate bone]

childhood meta?

[rocky nacelle]

so love something else

[median steeple]

I love stealth LC

[fleet zealot]

Fem pro is just… too on point

[sullen forge]

I use Male Loose Cannon just cause of the LC's being over all shitheads lmao

[copper hawk]

i know u hate me para..

[ornate bone]

does defender give you a toughness % boost?

[fleet zealot]

She nails it but too straight laced gi jane, male pro still got a bit of sass

[rocky nacelle]

you didnt stop the 4 shadow maulers from spawning on me

that 1 time

[copper hawk]

u haaate me

[rocky nacelle]

worthless.

[copper hawk]

everynya hate me

[median steeple]

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