zealot-class

[rocky nacelle]

i might try that

see if I can trick my own perspective to looking at it that way

[acoustic dune]

@rocky nacelle just to let you know i am a dick when it come to critiquing stuff

[rocky nacelle]

idc

helps me think

compared to someone sugar coating

[placid fiber]

Wait, you aren't a dick otherwise? (Joking btw)

[acoustic dune]

well depending how foul my mood is

to a certain degree

[placid fiber]

tru, I'm the same

I can be an ass if I am pissed off enough >.<'

Generally why I try not to be pissed off >.>

[acoustic dune]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdkSCrAWCqGYWVj8uT81J3dWxE3sXJqpv

why is this albulm not on spotify

PLS

[rocky nacelle]

that game

needs to come out

[acoustic dune]

PLEASE

[acoustic dune]

LET THEM COOK

for how long it need to take

we can wait

we have the demo

[rocky nacelle]

I feel like the straight lines helped it

perspective wise

[acoustic dune]

do perspective line

[rocky nacelle]

i think thats what the white bar in the middle basically is

since im separating beach / ocean

down the center

[fleet zealot]

pain, i guess crit chance isn'tt he worst on ciag

[visual stream]

Doesn't have stripped down, hold X go next

[acoustic dune]

then you gotta head the character to see how they will in the perspective

god drawing perspective are a fucking nightmare

cant read wtf i am doing at a certain point

[rocky nacelle]

the idea is to have like

a bench on the beach

maybe someone looking up at it

(a skeleton guy obv)

[median steeple]

funny that you said that

this gun is just cursed for me

I have two now that are jsut

augh

[rocky nacelle]

ok

I like where this is going

way more

[rocky nacelle]

ik ik

[acoustic dune]

spacing

[rocky nacelle]

art in general is hard

[acoustic dune]

i understand that

i did it for a decade now

[placid fiber]

Most definitely it is

[placid fiber]

I'm starting to see a little perspective

[rocky nacelle]

road helps

[placid fiber]

Yeah

[rocky nacelle]

i saw it with the ocean

but doing the lil tide slapping the beach is hard for an amaetur lmfao

[acoustic dune]

get refrence

[rocky nacelle]

im completely drawing this off my head

like all my drawings

[placid fiber]

Then you have me, who has no artistic talent to begin with lol

[acoustic dune]

cool

[rocky nacelle]

im just imagining

[acoustic dune]

now get some ref

[acoustic dune]

bitch i will bitch slap you

give it a go

[placid fiber]

I don't want to, my shaky hands don't help to begin with

[acoustic dune]

and do it until you succeed

[placid fiber]

and my poor eyesight sucks for it

and I don't find it fun

[acoustic dune]

I HAVE SHAKY HAND AND IT AINT STOPING ME

[placid fiber]

Art isn't my calling

[placid fiber]

Here's the difference: You want to do it, I do not

[acoustic dune]

fair nuff

[placid fiber]

It just has never been an interest to me, at any point in my life

[acoustic dune]

stickman and undertale got me into art

[placid fiber]

And you're right, that is petty of me to think those problems would stop me

[rocky nacelle]

hm

ok i like it

seems it went from putting a cool skeleton on a beach

to perspective practice

[acoustic dune]

congrat

[placid fiber]

practice helps

[rocky nacelle]

that literally

applies to anything

I appreciate the sentiment

but thats just a platitude

lmao

[placid fiber]

Practicing wrong can screw you up tho >.>

[rocky nacelle]

well im posting it for wolf arent I?

someone I know that has actual art practice?

and I know a few others in other discords

[placid fiber]

I get it, I'm just a dumbass :3

[rocky nacelle]

I know

[acoustic dune]

experiment

experiment

[rocky nacelle]

also

that

[acoustic dune]

and experiment

[rocky nacelle]

whats wrong with experimenting

its not like im making this for money

lmfao

[acoustic dune]

pratice help but if you dont try smth else

[rocky nacelle]

my other friend said thats how you find styles that stick

[acoustic dune]

well you curb yourself

[placid fiber]

I mean I am not saying that you are doing wrong... I was just making generalistic statements x.x

[acoustic dune]

art style doesnt stick

it change

[median steeple]

as is tradition of playing psyker after a break

I blew up

[acoustic dune]

every goddamn time

[rocky nacelle]

hmm

i feel like im drawn out

but i just got no ideas

to be realistic

[restive gulch]

Would this be a decent learning build for combat axe + revolver? I usually ogryn club but would like to learn Zealot more. I didn't enjoy the lack of damage feeling of the heavy evis chorus spam build I tried before. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a4f4a0b-666d-4786-865a-6fcf8e0a48b4/fuplaayz-ultimate-zealot-aug-2024

[acoustic dune]

go watch smth

or listen to smth

[rocky nacelle]

im listening to something

currently deafened in another call so I could just fully listen to music

i need

noise

not music

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7oiF9SUlgMjC5BrmXb9eT6?si=98fa6f4213134d4c

[placid fiber]

Yeah give yourself something to draw inspiration from. :3

[rocky nacelle]

think ill find something to draw while listening to this

[placid fiber]

idk, it depends on what it means to you

[acoustic dune]

here have this

https://open.spotify.com/album/30wv96cEACAgunWTKevPYJ?si=zlXyBhL1RzKnZSsPNZC40Q

[rocky nacelle]

no

i dont want vocals rn

[acoustic dune]

or this https://open.spotify.com/album/3lDglTNdwUF4G7yMtyjddY?si=wDARuhK4QOajyC09rG3Yaw

[spare talon]

The late August/early Sept game release and updates have begun for me
Lord have mercy

[acoustic dune]

no vocal aye

[rocky nacelle]

and I dont want jazzy stuff either

[rocky nacelle]

its worse if you play other shit off PC

like the new M&L game

[fleet zealot]

you are seeking them, not finding them duh

[acoustic dune]

@rocky nacelle ever heard of carpenter brute?

[spare talon]

MnL?

[spare talon]

Who hasnt

[placid fiber]

Um... <.<'

[rocky nacelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5I3DcapElQ

[acoustic dune]

golly

[rocky nacelle]

my beloved

M&L

RPGs

[placid fiber]

I plead the 5th

[acoustic dune]

https://open.spotify.com/album/0io5pe55YRCTVqEjwlOBdN?si=jieYj33HSCOQ-x4iy4lVQw

[spare talon]

my spotify playlist radio was playing this when i got off last night

[rocky nacelle]

oh look the first album i listened to by brut

when i was like

16

lmfao

(im talking about the one wolfy posted)

[placid fiber]

Maybe when I get a minute. I'll post it in my private channel

[spare talon]

@rocky nacelle i can send my playlist
idk if itll be exactly what youre looking for
but itll be there

[placid fiber]

I am not feeling new music rn x.x

[spare talon]

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4ThOW6bF9MOJeReWFiy2ri?si=03c596f5c17642a8

[acoustic dune]

ey i found this

https://open.spotify.com/album/0VxATEaN6KiKbszFYcrPyB?si=prcQsTL6Rfuj-z2PEoWp_g

[rocky nacelle]

oh nice

pendulum

[spare talon]

just play it in shuffle cuz the first like 40 songs are like 80% pendulum

which isnt a bad thing but like

theres other things in there too lmao

[acoustic dune]

yo lads

share me some albullm

https://open.spotify.com/album/3tWTtLCcu1qbhyeabzdx3p?si=-BRNBS68TFqsa7qTDTqRRA

[rocky nacelle]

https://open.spotify.com/artist/66ufdnoY06SAK2zHcHjo0G?si=zIKHH8AHQ8CX-NYT9QKB-A

[spare talon]

ive never been an "album" person

i go "wow that sounds good"
add to playlist

thats about it

[acoustic dune]

is that french

[rocky nacelle]

thats the autism

also same

[acoustic dune]

i only have one custom playlist

and thats my liked song

[spare talon]

i have 2 playlists

[acoustic dune]

and its 2k big

[spare talon]

one is vgm
the other is everything else

very organized

[acoustic dune]

fuck organisation

whats up is up

[bitter anchor]

hi i want some help with the just a flesh wound penence can anyone help?

[spare talon]

youre right
i dont follow my own rules sometimes

[rocky nacelle]

oh hey

FURI

one of the best games ever

[spare talon]

erm

its one of the best soundtracks ever

[acoustic dune]

yeah sure

[spare talon]

the game is just a bonus

[acoustic dune]

do the twins

[rocky nacelle]

true

singleplayer high skill ceiling games

my favorite

I love DMC and beat em ups

[bitter anchor]

well i havent rl played them so i dont have the bell -_-

[acoustic dune]

you do know the bell isnt for hard mode only right

its for rushing boss

[rocky nacelle]

oh i got it

I kinda wanna draw

a night woods with a skeleton in the center

[bitter anchor]

dont you need to have finished the mission to use the bell?

[acoustic dune]

dude listen to this one

https://open.spotify.com/track/3Hd9xFHexRb2CGBQdU015T?si=a27eaefb842644f6

its one of my fav

(sound like dogs procreating)

[acoustic dune]

dont remenber but you need someone to do the bell

winning was not needed

just needing to have it rang

[bitter anchor]

ah ok

so u will help?

[acoustic dune]

get the bell ?

sure

then penance

lookie what i found

https://open.spotify.com/album/4tO5RJHqxgux4SS7VWLCCo?si=wBQvOJIISB2mkDaMBeXu7A

[bitter anchor]

i mean that i alone and i need ppl cuz i cant play private on my own

[acoustic dune]

that i get

did you advertise int he vox-lfg channel?

[bitter anchor]

no i kind off just joined the server and thought to ask here

[bitter anchor]

thx tho

[acoustic dune]

are you in europa?

[bitter anchor]

yes

[acoustic dune]

arlight

then ill help

@bitter anchor see my funny number in the username?

go to social

press e

and paste it there

[copper hawk]

@spare talon https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143287281868877824/1278086850115932211/20240827142010_1.jpg?ex=66cf86a2&is=66ce3522&hm=e3929b3a5fbbedc09f33db07aefdd4a93dd4b9b2abcd6dcdbc5e08187fb096f6&

[median steeple]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iyOayWmoBKkwousHL/d13372IXMITG?invite=cr-MSwwV1YsMTk0NjM5OTEyLA @copper hawk

[copper hawk]

i finally did it

[bitter anchor]

i did

[copper hawk]

atrox taxe

i got a good build

it's so over for pubs now

gonna run this nonstop

[acoustic dune]

wtf is that sound

[median steeple]

monkey hate sniper

[spare talon]

what the fuck

[acoustic dune]

invite me

[median steeple]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iyNliVoaaLLrttLGD/d13373IBI7qM?invite=cr-MSxLOWosMTk0NjM5OTEyLA

[copper hawk]

that was me

i made that sound and i am sorry

[rocky nacelle]

@acoustic dune this one

is gonna be good

[acoustic dune]

make it more

[acoustic dune]

imma help some lad out

with a penance

[misty nova]

[acoustic dune]

i think you missed

[median steeple]

just a skill issue I guess

[acoustic dune]

tzench

[rocky nacelle]

ok better cause colored in

hoodie can be drawn better

but you get the idea

[copper hawk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9cdd452a-1258-427a-81cf-7b1b55bc8e82/moldnificent-taxe-build

[quartz silo]

Is the chaxe good? What perks/blessings are best for it?

[copper hawk]

headtaker slaught or headtaker thrust

flakiac

[quartz silo]

Bloodletter a hard change?

[copper hawk]

yah

[north sedge]

bloodletter is doodoo

[quartz silo]

Got a really high stat one with headtaker4 bloodletter3 specialist/crit and haven’t really touched them before

I just assume everything with bleed is either crap or niche

[copper hawk]

yah x2

bl3 to thrust crit to maniacs

or slaught

up 2 u

[acoustic dune]

lacerate

[quartz silo]

Crit chance for flak or maniac? Leaning toward flak

I’m assuming the chaxe is just like the heavy evis but with an axe move set essentially?

[still quartz]

Can never read the comments on the Shatfark Forums dude, there's always these idiots

[quartz silo]

To put it dumbly

[still quartz]

Spoiled mfs I swear

[still quartz]

Flak is more common so yeah, do Flak

[still quartz]

Depends on which Chainaxe

You'll get the feel for them

[rocky nacelle]

@acoustic dune

[north sedge]

a bit different in that certain attacks actually shred and do extra dmg

[acoustic dune]

nice

[quartz silo]

I’m just so desperate for something new

I really want more character building options I hope it’s their next big focus

[spare talon]

"aw man, theyre replacing the system that makes it possible to never get what i want if im unlucky enough with one that allows me to always be able to get what i want by just playing the game i want to play"

[spare talon]

what have you already used

[quartz silo]

Hammer, knife, Hevis, Hsword

[spare talon]

Try dclaw on a crit build

[quartz silo]

I don’t really think using new weapons is going to sate me anymore I think I’m kinda done with them

I’ll give it a go for sure tho

[still quartz]

"aw man they're not just handing me the best stuff for free so I can drop the game in like 5 minutes after I do one match and never pick it up again"

[rocky nacelle]

dclaw piety

🤫

[quartz silo]

Haven’t tried crushers yet might give them a go

[still quartz]

I should try Shock Maul on Zealot but I haven't figured out which moveset I like most yet

[misty mason]

The amount of people that don't understand this haha

[still quartz]

Gotta keep trying em

[quartz silo]

I have the problem on every class sadly

[spare talon]

Or you could try using knife on vet or psyker with melee focused builds
I've been using knife for a while but simply swapping off zealot was enough of a change to be fun again (despite me playing as close to a zealot on those as possible)

[quartz silo]

I’m not huge on the knives idk why

[still quartz]

You can tell which people are in it for the long run, and which people run entirely off of short-term satisfaction and have never experienced genuine happiness from hard work in their lives

It's actually crazy

[spare talon]

Crushers are also very fun
I'm not a slow weapon kinda guy so it seems like it wouldn't be my thing but it's faster than you expect

[misty mason]

You're a bubble Smiteker now tho

[quartz silo]

I think I like the idea of knife wielding maniac but without the dodges and heavies which is kinda their identity

[rocky nacelle]

soyker zealot cosplay

[fleet zealot]

she bubble on my smite till i peril

[rocky nacelle]

might be better than zealot

(at least with a ds4)

[spare talon]

That's tac axes

Mk2 tac axe

[misty mason]

She perils on my warp until I venting shriek

[spare talon]

Like cica was using up here

[rocky nacelle]

taxe 2 revolver EP assail gunker time

(but then I remember melk weeklies for zealot need to be done)

[still quartz]

She Scrier on my Gaze til I Assail

[paper harness]

No bromentum I sleep

[spare talon]

she smite on my assail till i rupture

[fossil crag]

Just a question is there like a fix for darktide stuttering on pc gamepass since the every game i play have been making me stutter every 30-45 seconds and sometimes will just dc me to loading screen with an option to reconnect

[visual stream]

Chat this guy has immo, chorus, bolter, and evis but is running Loner

Does loner make sense at all there

Even as a really silly point tax?

[copper hawk]

but i have bromentum

it's right there on the axe

u fool !

[rocky nacelle]

whats the keystone

[spare talon]

no
cuz youd take loner for stealth pathing

and evis just doesnt work well with that

[visual stream]

Didn't think so

[visual stream]

Can't check on the mission screen

[quartz silo]

I’m ngl for the loner penance I could see myself doing that just taking a useless aura instead of building around it

[placid fiber]

On a side note: do you keep your base aura with loner?

[spare talon]

yes

[placid fiber]

What about with the middle aura?

[spare talon]

no

[placid fiber]

Interesting

[spare talon]

ive not tested to see if it stacks with benediction, but you do get the 7.5% tdr aura with loner and loner only

[placid fiber]

Also kinda looks like they are making loner less crappy

[spare talon]

but i wouldnt be surprised if it did stack considering both survivalist and scavenger both stack

[misty mason]

Man why is everything in gaming happening in september

[spare talon]

thats what i was saying

[placid fiber]

Honestly I think I am getting new music in september from the guy I listen to as well, so it isn't just gaming shit

[spare talon]

ror2 dlc today
d*stiny 2 episode 1 act 3 today (ive not played act 2 lole)
season 1 of the first descendant tomorrow
AAI collection sept 5th
person 3 reload the answer sept 9th
space marine 2 sept 10th
im probably forgetting even more than i both will play and that im not remotely interested in

and ofc itemization on the 26th

[placid fiber]

At least they are waiting until the 26th, maybe my gaming burnout will be over by then x.x

[misty mason]

New DnD core rules drop in Sept too

[placid fiber]

Ugh and I have the ror2 dlc to be omega hyped about as well x.x

[frank finch]

I'd love to see Zealot get a big, claymore-type sword. Two handed, sweeping attacks, I think this would be epic.

[misty mason]

Remind me, what's RoR

[placid fiber]

Risk of Rain

it's a rogue lite

[misty mason]

Oh right I don't have it

I think I've played it a bit tho

[misty mason]

Could I interest you in an eviscirator

[placid fiber]

We are getting chef back x.x

I blame Cole

[spare talon]

mk15 evis if you just never rev it

[placid fiber]

For not cooking enough

[frank finch]

Eviscerator is very epic, just not quite what I'm thinking

[placid fiber]

You mean sorta like the 2h sword or executioner sword don't you >.>

[misty mason]

Ex Sword is bae

[frank finch]

Like, the heavy swords. But bigger, and good

[placid fiber]

the heavy swords are good lol

[misty mason]

Hswords are one of our best melee weps

And one of the best melee weps in the game in general

[frank finch]

Maybe I'm just ass, but I don't like them very much

[misty mason]

They need to be built right or they suck

[placid fiber]

I get that, I didn't like them for a while. I then pushed them into my clutch build and got used to them

Running a heavy sword with no armor damage is rough

[next nova]

I don't care about being meta exactly but what are some of the best weapons on zealot? melee and ranged. I haven't played zealot since the talent rework and I want to start working through the talents

[placid fiber]

I mean... a lot of melee weapons are awesome for the zealot...

The Rashad is pretty busted, in general, though

[next nova]

what weapons (and variants) are the ones to avoid?

[placid fiber]

@spare talon Could I get a lil back-up here? I am tired and can't think of the right things atm... x.x

[frank finch]

I like the heavy sword that has the sweeping heavy combo, I just feel like there's always a better alternative

[placid fiber]

That's what I get for waking up at like 6am...

[copper hawk]

all tac axes

all lasguns

[placid fiber]

^

autopistol as well

[tight fog]

tac axe is good!

[misty mason]

Rashad is probably the best weapon in the game imo

[next nova]

which weapons do you guys find most fun?

[placid fiber]

Though you can work with it, if you are dumb enough like me

[tight fog]

mk 2 tac axe

crit build with the flamer and throwing knives

[spare talon]

it is worth noting that lasguns arent bad but this just do not mix well with zealots kit and playstyle
they are very much a vet thing

[copper hawk]

tac axe is terrible

[misty mason]

The square evisc is fun

[placid fiber]

^

[copper hawk]

he asked for zeal

[spare talon]

achlys axe is fucked up tho

[copper hawk]

of course lasguns are good for vet

[spare talon]

dont touch that one

[copper hawk]

tac axes do some of the worst damage of any zeal weapons against armor

[misty mason]

Easy to use and it's a chain weapon so you get to saw people in half

[copper hawk]

and enemies in general

their damage profile is two melee updates removed

[placid fiber]

Which is sad considering the heavy sword as well

[copper hawk]

it does less damage to carapace on a heavy than it does on lights

which is.. nuts

[tight fog]

the attack speed is insane and you can get a really high crit rate

lights are single target

[copper hawk]

of course

[spare talon]

the devils claw, the combat blade, the crusher
those are my 3 picks

[copper hawk]

what you're using is a worse rashad

rashad is the best axe in the game

with brutal momentum and headtaker it's mindless

take IJ and +melee speed and you'll mulch mixed hordes

with hiccups whenever the turn based enemy (bulwark) and heavy armor appears

[tight fog]

meh, ive used combat axe the most out of everything else and mk 2 tac axe is filling a different role

[copper hawk]

it also does a lot of unyielding damage

i don't think so

[visual stream]

Losing a mission because I get dogged one time all match and a flamer comes by because my teammates flicked one bullet over too late

[misty mason]

For melee I would say
Hsword if you want to feel like a horde lawnmower
Rashad if you want to be good at everything
Evisc if you want to be pretty good at everything but also want that grinding goodness of a big fuken wep

[copper hawk]

i just did a run with my build and got this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143287281868877824/1278086850115932211/20240827142010_1.jpg?ex=66cf86a2&is=66ce3522&hm=e3929b3a5fbbedc09f33db07aefdd4a93dd4b9b2abcd6dcdbc5e08187fb096f6&

with the tac axe

[visual stream]

Then the guy who constantly left coherency all mission types "Coherencey.."

[copper hawk]

it's like halfway in between two worlds

[visual stream]

RAHHHHH

[placid fiber]

Don't get me wrong, taxe can be used... but comparing it to other zealot melees just gets it blown out of the water

[median steeple]

I hate this game! I played so badly

[copper hawk]

it wants to be a cdr weapon like the chainsword, but it doesn't do enough damage

and it has poor armor penetration/damage

[median steeple]

I exploded so many times

[tight fog]

yes of coourse, its no way near the best weapon, but actually its pretty good

dont use it like a rashad

[copper hawk]

it also wants to be an axe, but doesn't do enough damage

the.. only way to use it is like a rashad

it even comes with brutal momentum

[tight fog]

its more like a knife

[copper hawk]

which is a requirement on axes

[tight fog]

i dont have BM on it

[copper hawk]

then it's just a worse knife

[placid fiber]

but with worse damage? lol

[copper hawk]

lmfao

womp womp

the knife is the best weapon for zealot i think

just generally

[red mesa]

def try it with BM it helps a lot

[copper hawk]

it shreds the hardest enemies in the game

[frank finch]

The main point I've taken away from this is that heavy swords are good I just need to lock tf in

[copper hawk]

like paper

[tight fog]

with BM you might as well use rashad

[copper hawk]

it struggles kinda with hordes

[median steeple]

you make most weapons pretty good if you lock in

(some sadly just suck)

[red mesa]

and reddit wants it nerfed until its bad, but I think its so fun.
pls just buff other weapons to be good too.
then give us another difficulty
dont gut the knife :/

[misty mason]

Yeah this is why I'd say rashad overall is better than knife

[copper hawk]

if you're not using brutal momentum you kneecap yourself

it gets stuck on ALL enemies

[radiant token]

Yeah its swing pattern is weird.

[frank finch]

I am famously terrible at locking in, there lies the challenge

[copper hawk]

it gets stuck on POXWALKER and UNARMORED it's just so pawful, even on headshots

[red mesa]

I totally agree a knife being the best weapon in a 40k game is a bit mid, buff those chain weps and thammers then

[radiant token]

But it breaks the monotony.

[copper hawk]

i should know sincei just used it and did nearly 1 mil damage on an auric malestrom

[misty mason]

Rashad is literally good at everything and S tier at most things
Knife is like B tier for hordes

[copper hawk]

if you want a tacaxe that's capable of dealing with its own and still benefits from crit, run brutal momentum and shred

[red mesa]

the mobility and defensive tools you get make up for it tho

[tight fog]

im using headtaker and shred, it's really fun

[red mesa]

and push it into the best weapon imo, since anti horde can be made up for in other ways

[copper hawk]

if you want to play zealot and mean to kill lots of things, run the rashad II with bm/ht for mindless

[tight fog]

m1 to victory

[copper hawk]

or the heavy sword ix

[tight fog]

then bust the flamer out if you need to kill a big bunch of stuff

[spare talon]

reddit wants it nerfed cuz they think that will stop the shit zealots from running ahead and dying (i still rarely see this kind of person)

[copper hawk]

with ht and the one that ignores hitmass on crit

so u can decapitate a bunch of ragers for the luls

i want the knife nerfed because it just breaks the game

[rocky nacelle]

yes you do

[misty mason]

Memes are how objective reality is decided

[copper hawk]

there's like three weapons that break the game

[red mesa]

ya and it wont.
and even it it did they would just still be shit without the speed.
dont remove the speed PLEASE
im gonna be upset if they cave to the whiners and do

[copper hawk]

the knife, the revolver (zarona), and the duelist iv

i think uncanny just makes weapons outshine literally everything else

[red mesa]

uh oh dont tell tanner lindberg that

[copper hawk]

i know roundfish doesn't give a rat's gloop about how the game feels aesthetically

[red mesa]

REEEEEEEEEEEE UNCANNY IS AWFUL AND IF YOU THINK ITS GOOD YOU'RE ALSO AWFUL REEEEE

[copper hawk]

eg the giant two handed chainsaw is worse against armor than, say, the tiny knife that by default skin is literally a pen knife

no larger than a letter opener

or the 2 ton behemoth of a mutant human being swinging a knife that's possibly around 60 lbs at some twig chaff struggling to deal with armor

i know balancing is a thing and u can't make a space marine level char just mulch through hordes

but seeing the knife do things more effectively than other anti-armor just makes me depressed

and the fact that with a good zealot you can just nullify the whole game

[red mesa]

you could make the argument the smaller and more easy to manuever knife is better at slipping into armor cracks.
ogryn knife is just a sword, but knife sized for ogryn

[copper hawk]

you're fast, you pen all armor, and you do excellent horde clear

but who cares i'm just a yapper

i'veb een playing too long

tac axe laying to rot

[red mesa]

im 100% for buffing other weps

i just dont think they should nuke what makes the knife so fun in the process

[copper hawk]

it's a 60 lbs knife being thrusted by the muscle mass of a 2 ton human being

it's essentially a space marine stagging someone with their astartes dagger

[red mesa]

this is the hd2 discussion again imo, just let things be strong and fun, you can offset that with difficulty being added/modes and players self regulating using weapons they find challenging and or fun

[median steeple]

here come the uncanny defenders

[copper hawk]

i'm sure a rondel being used by a skilled warrior will find chinks through armor in a large armored opponent

[misty mason]

Honestly though I haven't been playing zealot since the chastise and CDR nerf

[median steeple]

I think revolver should be killed ngl

[copper hawk]

yarp

[median steeple]

plus it would be funny

[copper hawk]

just wish some weapons were brought back into line

[misty mason]

Took away too much fun

[copper hawk]

and other weapons get tlc they need

namely the tac axes

[red mesa]

lol you think uncanny is bad?
I agree its not always needed (high crit builds, certain weapons) but its an overal incredibly good blessing that will almost never be a complete waste to run at worst
and at best it changes what the weapon is capable of completely

[paper harness]

No

[opaque island]

wdym chastise is still amazing

[copper hawk]

noh he's referencing a reddit post

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/dokibird-confused-vtuber-nijisanji-hololive-gif-16805891220657949602

Brother

It's a copy and paste

[paper harness]

The knife belongs in a tier above all other weapons

It is blindingly overpowered

[copper hawk]

a tanner goonstick rider said "here come the uncanny defenders" and ad hominem'd a very informative and actually very kind and even handed post made

to correct someone with math and data why tanner's knife build wasn't as good as it was purported to be

[red mesa]

was just wondering, was more curious to hear your opinion than triggered haha

[copper hawk]

and that uncanny was quite good

and so the guy replied with two lines

[red mesa]

im like the guy who caused tanner to pop off about uncanny btw

[copper hawk]

"here come the uncanny defenders"

and then he just shat on that person

Get out of my Auric missions.

[red mesa]

i made a comment on his original veteran build video disagreeing with him that uncanny was bad

and he popped off on me and blocked all my comments on his videos lol

[copper hawk]

lmfao

[red mesa]

pretty sure my original comment is what sent him on the 2 video rant about uncanny

[copper hawk]

he's a hello kitty e-boy

[median steeple]

but yeah plasma, revolver, and knife needs touching

[copper hawk]

psychoooo

[median steeple]

you need to be abled to be killed by plasma

[misty mason]

The only person who makes videos about DT I would watch is crab

[copper hawk]

i get the egotistical social vampire impression watching his true duo gameplay

[misty mason]

And I haven't seen him in yonks

[frosty herald]

Tanner is allergic to criticism

[median steeple]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1002301423935033494/1213208760068079718/mcarthurgato.gif

[paper harness]

They have to

[copper hawk]

i don't know what they could do

i've been playing since the closed beta

[paper harness]

To balance the knife, 80% mobility on all classes cannot be faster than a poxwalker

[copper hawk]

i can't wait to lay dt to rest when sm2 drops

[red mesa]

im not sure THIS comment was mine, it could have been. lol

i argued with a few people about it

and used some data

[copper hawk]

it might've been yours

[red mesa]

but others did too

[copper hawk]

he shat on you because his ego demanded it

[red mesa]

but my first comment disagreeing about uncanny was on his veteren video, and he commented back to me "this comment is bad and you're bad too" or something

[frosty herald]

You and me in the battlebarge sparring arena 3 out of 5

[copper hawk]

or whomever the knowledgeable fellow was that replied to correct his uncanny

[red mesa]

and his NEXT VIDEO was him popping off about how "everyone defending uncanny is wrong and here is why"

[paper harness]

It also needs its finesse scaling reduced, Uncanny needs to be nerfed as well

[frosty herald]

Imagine making someone seethe so much with a single comment

[median steeple]

hopefully horde mode has more than 3 players

since they could balance it better than ops

[red mesa]

it was awesome lol

[frosty herald]

Horde mode will be like sm1 horde

[rocky nacelle]

bow is lame

[red mesa]

i do see a lot of his points, there are times you can get away without uncanny

[median steeple]

did they actually confirm this or is this a prediction

[red mesa]

my 95% crit zealot build with knife often doesnt use it, bc crit is enough

but to throw it away as an always bad blessing is insanity

[frosty herald]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-the-rot-goofy-goober-silly-schizophrenia-gif-12414327510351470727

[red mesa]

its one of the strongest in the game

[median steeple]

saber has already made horde modes with WWZ and it was great

[paper harness]

You shouldn’t use bleed unless you have uncanny

[copper hawk]

i'm hoping for something fire-fight tier from halo reach

[frosty herald]

Im predicting it will be

[median steeple]

then perish

[red mesa]

MHW bow?
I ALSO LIKE BOW IN MONSTER HUNTER WORLD
greatsword, longsword, bow are my mains lol

how could you do this

[copper hawk]

ooohg

i want to run

but i am so eeepy

[frosty herald]

Bow in wilds

With the homing arrows tracer

[red mesa]

looks so cool

im def rocking either GS or LS and bow as my secondary in wilds

[frosty herald]

Hammer hbg here

[red mesa]

i also might take the week off work once we get a date, can't wait

hammer is dope too

[rocky nacelle]

shut up noob

[paper harness]

A lot more than 3

[red mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-james-franco-gif-7829182

https://tenor.com/view/crying-crying-meme-gif-26327776

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/smk_shut-up-noob-gif-22701496

[red mesa]

i want to be excited for darktide update

but im more excited for SM2

[paper harness]

Zarona, Plasma, Void, Trauma, CIAG, Smite

[solar gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[red mesa]

tru

[copper hawk]

yah void is p gnarly

[red mesa]

do they break the game, or are just fun and powerful in a very skilled players hands?
do you actually think they all need nerfing?

[paper harness]

Both combat axes, both knives, psword, ds4, Crusher, the mk7 hs

[rocky nacelle]

if you think void doesnt break the game

ok

[red mesa]

the crusher breaks the game?

[rocky nacelle]

thats all i can say

[paper harness]

I will leave on sight of plasma, void, trauma and smite now

Crusher is infinite cc

With no downsides outside of boss damage

S tier

Automatically

[rocky nacelle]

even then it has good finesse so its not exactly the worst

against bosses

[red mesa]

difference is i think thats fun and fine

i dont think its "broken"

i think bad weapons should be brought up to be comparable

[rocky nacelle]

you dont think CC'ing everything short of a monstro is broken

[paper harness]

Then why have damnation

[rocky nacelle]

crusher isnt even bad

its just crazy it CC's literally fucking everything

thats not a boss

[paper harness]

In order, on zealot for most busted weapons

[red mesa]

no, because doing so is time consuming.
its also not as fun as just killing, so most wont do it.
I dont think ive ever seen a zealot solo hard carry and make the match boring for me bc of a crusher cc

I understand that argument more with smite or something but a crusher?

[paper harness]

Knives, caxe, hs7, crusher

[red mesa]

the vraks mk7 is more busted than the columnus or zarona on zealot?

why?

[rocky nacelle]

HS7 with Dblow is pretty crazy

[red mesa]

ohhh

heavy sword

derp

[rocky nacelle]

[red mesa]

derp moment

heavy sword is good

but is so bad against armor i can't imagine calling it broken

its just a good and fun weapon lol

[paper harness]

It is not bad against armour in the slightest

[rocky nacelle]

you can kill crushers pretty fast

[visual stream]

God forbid I try to do a shortcut backwards on Hab Dreyko, just got ledged even though there's walkable surface under me

[red mesa]

if they nerf all these weapons, you really think peopel will be happy and the game will be more fun?
i feel like they should buff the underperforming ones, and if the game is suddenly easy adjust director/difficulty/add new content

[sullen forge]

I think the reason the HHA MK7 Isn’t on the chopping block over the Zarona is the simple argument of, does it have 6 cleave? No.

[paper harness]

The 7 was named specifically because its weapon special into overhead

Which 4 shots a crusher

[red mesa]

show me a clip bc when i use a heavysword its awful vs them. Cycle h1->special over and over

takes quite a while to down one especially without chastise

[rocky nacelle]

anything is gonna take a while without chastise unless its a TH or a knife

[red mesa]

i thought the hs9 was the preferred one anyway

[rocky nacelle]

even mk15 is a lil annoying

[red mesa]

why the 7

[rocky nacelle]

dorn just said why

[red mesa]

TH sucks too, can't 1 shot them and sucks vs more than 1

bc of hit stun

its serviceable dont get me wrong

but doesnt feel great

[rocky nacelle]

lol

[red mesa]

the 9 is overhead into weapon special too

[placid fiber]

the 9 and 6 it doesn't matter, after the special is the heavy 1

[red mesa]

maybe im missing something but hs7 is not a wep i hear people discuss in the "broken weps that need nerfs" category normally lol

[opaque island]

i do agree it struggles against alot of crushers at once the TH i mean you gotta really pick your hits or youll be in hit stun when the other crushers are swinging

[paper harness]

Because bad players are stuck on eviserators

[rocky nacelle]

you just need to finesse your way around a pack of crushers

with a TH

[paper harness]

A tier weapons, but no where near the above

[red mesa]

do you have a clip of you killing like 4 crushers or something in meatgrinder with hs7? i dont have one rolled

bc i would love to see how effective it is

i feel like it would be pretty rough lol

[umbral kindle]

See like, what's easier?
-nerfing the handful of over performers a bit
-buffing the other 80% and then nerfing everything anyway but putting even more effort into enemy balance

[red mesa]

eviserators kinda suck ya, but are fun

[paper harness]

They don’t suck

They just aren’t broken

[sullen forge]

They’re piss easy to use also

[paper harness]

Like the devils claw and the tactical axes

[placid fiber]

Eviscerators require a bit of skill

well the mk 2 does

[north sedge]

no buffs only nerfs

[placid fiber]

the mk 15 is pretty easy to handle lol

[stable cypress]

no buffs only, nerfs

[north sedge]

ehhh evisc is brain dumb mode, it's just neither marks are insane

[paper harness]

There are very few weapons I would consider in desperate need for a buff

[placid fiber]

At least the mk2 doesn't suck like it use to

[paper harness]

Most just need better moveset variation

[placid fiber]

autopistol

[umbral kindle]

I hate the "just buff everything" croud bro stop advocating for power creep and making the game a snoozefest

[paper harness]

That is the exception

[placid fiber]

They literally put the autopistol at the bottom and left it there

[tight fog]

achlys combat axe could deffo do with a buiff

[opaque island]

man i didnt know this was the opinion on the evisc

[tight fog]

cleaving on heavy or something

[opaque island]

it is kinda true though

[paper harness]

I think the thunder hammer could use a buff, but then nerf the one shot capacity on it

[placid fiber]

buff the lights

[opaque island]

but thats whats its for, is big numbers, maybe the ironhelm sure

[modern lintel]

So basically we need to buff plasma

[paper harness]

I leave I-II on sight of a thammer

Wait until the pubs work out peak degenerate gameplay

Thammer flamer

[opaque island]

i dont understand this sentence

[sullen forge]

Mael, specialist monstrosities iirc

Which is understandable

[opaque island]

its not my fault this is the kinda character i wanted to make i didnt know it would be like this okay. is it cause it makes all the monstrosities pointless? why do you leave?

[sullen forge]

It’s fucking beyond boring watching bosses get nuked I won’t lie

[paper harness]

Flamer got a worthless buff, it was in A tier it didn’t need power creep because of a needed nerf to chastise

Oh no my weapon can’t kill everything on the screen in one mag!

That’s what heresy and malice is for

[spare talon]

if flamer recieves a buff
i think the only thing it needs is a handling speed buff

draw and ads time

literally thats it

[sullen forge]

I’ll eat my boot if it gets another buff

[paper harness]

Undo its power buff, buff that

And it’s A tier

[modern lintel]

I like how them buffing bolters ammo by like a mag or two didnt rlly do anything i dont see it anymore then i used to

[rocky nacelle]

Tknives cheat code

[sullen forge]

Plasma and Zarona out perform it, there’s 0 point to use it is why

[paper harness]

These are arguably worse balanced than the melees

[modern lintel]

Meta slaves

[paper harness]

I run bolter on my dclaw build

Could use cowboy

[rocky nacelle]

I use dbarrel with dclaw

[sullen forge]

I literally only use Agri IX HHA, fucking despise the existence of the Zarona and just don’t enjoy the Plasma

[paper harness]

Plasma and meta psyker completely ruin any game for me

[spare talon]

considering ive been tknife pilled since i first made my dclaw/zarona build
i will totally swap it out for another anti-armor option that isnt the bolter
cuz the bolter feels like absolute fucking ass to me and i hate it

[sullen forge]

Honestly I’m surprised I don’t do what you do Dorn

Zarona pisses me off that much

Straight up makes me want to leave sometimes

[red mesa]

why nerf things that are fun so people no longer like to use them tho?
is the game better bc the bolter sucks now? Iiked my vet more when bolter was OP than I do now, I don't play it as much anymore. How is it better plasma is OP instead? Its just the same thing right? Something will always be the best anyway
just let things be powerful and fun, difficulty comes with modes and their AI, also players will self regulate. If you think X weapon is OP and boring, dont use it

[paper harness]

I have it bound to leave on a macro

[opaque island]

is it cause they just tap everything to death?

[paper harness]

Yes

[sullen forge]

Yes

[rocky nacelle]

I leave TH monstro specials now cuz I wanna evisc or dclaw or chaxe them

[sullen forge]

That and it cleaves more than any HHA

[paper harness]

I leave and will shit talk

[sullen forge]

any mark, cleaves more

[opaque island]

i feel personally called out considering my main zealot build is Thammer Flamer and i love assassination missions

[sullen forge]

Get off the bad habit

[red mesa]

I do too sometimes bc i want to duel them and never will be able to.
But sometimes I like to use the TH, its just fun. So i feel bad bc i know i feel that way sometimes on the other side, but hey thats why we have freedom to leave w/e no penalty

[sullen forge]

That’s all I suggest

[paper harness]

Void moggs any non meta zealot instantly

[copper hawk]

i snog any zealot instantly

wait huh

[opaque island]

heretic bowling you mean?

[red mesa]

im struggling with what you're saying here

[coarse birch]

Void plasma smite i can agree with leaving on

[sullen forge]

Voidstrike outperforms non-meta zealot builds

[red mesa]

void(strike staff) moggs (owns? beats? invalidates?) any non meta (built) zealot instantly - ya?

sorry im a boomer with some of these words lol

[rocky nacelle]

laughably easy too

[coarse birch]

Shits just uninteresting and has been for months

[sullen forge]

CIAG is staying on and same with Zarona

[paper harness]

A grey void strike will do it

[sullen forge]

Those two things oh my god they’re so fucking overpowered

[coarse birch]

I can somewhat deal with ciag and zarona but they are dumb

[opaque island]

you wanna know the fun part, i stick to QP heresy so all the meta talk doesnt really affect me too much

[rocky nacelle]

HES TAKING 30 SECONDS TO RELOAD GIVE HIM TIME

[paper harness]

If I picked up a plasma I could probably do a million damage per maelstrom run

Without any effort

[coarse birch]

It helps most pubs arent good enough to actually turn the game off if they pick Zarona

[sullen forge]

30 seconds till he fucking deletes a boss in 1 mag

[red mesa]

i play only auric maelstrom, or QP auric when the maelstrom is a shit modifier. mostly solo or with a duo
I dont see that many sweats using meta builds that own matches. We are usually the ones carrying lol

[paper harness]

Are you carrying or are you just using a meta build

[red mesa]

sometimews one or the other sometimes both

[sullen forge]

Dorn honest opinion on the Rashad

[red mesa]

i use a lot of builds

i use a lot of non meta weapons, but i also enjoy meta weapons

knife is one of my most used

[modern lintel]

Me when j see someone in vet chat running the trinity of evil and going wow this is easy

[red mesa]

trauma on psyker

[paper harness]

Incredibly overpowered

[coarse birch]

Rashad is probably the melee that bothers me the most

[red mesa]

knife, shout, plasma? lol

[paper harness]

It’s close to the knife

[modern lintel]

Psword

[rocky nacelle]

Erm can fatshark make the game harder???! Like??

[sullen forge]

Yeah, it’s depressing how fucking powerful it is

[spare talon]

have you done so to check?

[paper harness]

Yeah

My easiest true solo was plasma

[sullen forge]

Though that’s just anything with BM/DB

[umbral kindle]

This seems like you're viewing things from a black and white perspective. Nerfing things does not necessarily mean "make it so dogshit it sucks to play with" (even if Fatshart is great at doing that.

[red mesa]

lol i tested this yesterday on vet, and without a red stim

it is quite OP

but i dont think its actually OP, just powerful if built and used correctly

and i think thats fun

MOST players wont use it or unlock weapons to their full potential

and will still be mid with any weapon

[sullen forge]

It’s horde clear is fucked

[red mesa]

a skilled player who dislikes the OP ones, can challenge themselves to use something else

idk im still in the "buff other stuff" camp before dishing out heavy nerfs

but maybe im wrong

i can be wrong

[paper harness]

Here is an A tier weapon performing at peak performance

[coarse birch]

Its horde clear is fucked because "ignore entire game mechanic for no effort" is not good blessing design

[rocky nacelle]

not really a challenge when the most OP shit is a knife or rashad and then the step below that is perma CCing with a crusher

[sullen forge]

Taxe 🗣️💪

[paper harness]

Here is me doing better without trying at all

[sullen forge]

Need to use that more and drop the bad habit of Rashad

Taxe is genuinely more enjoyable using

[modern lintel]

If you didnt have to gamble for power cycler psword would be a plague

[spare talon]

since its a team game
what your teammates are running directly impacts your gameplay experience
if someone else has something that instantly explodes the entire screen at the click of a button, youre not going to have as much fun playing the game regardless how good you are

[tight fog]

thats exactly the same tac axe as i use, im not as good as that though haha

[red mesa]

mk II tac axe? is it the best tac axe?
I havent used tac axes in a long time, since early days. Is the MK II the most fun one/best to choose?

[paper harness]

Yes

[red mesa]

always looking to get into other weapons i dont use now

[coarse birch]

Yeah mk2 would be the best

Mk7 is similar iirc mk4 is just worse

[quaint verge]

Near perfect Psword

[sullen forge]

Shit which one was 2

Light for clear

[paper harness]

Here’s a duo 3veg

[quaint verge]

[sullen forge]

For heavy

[spare talon]

light single target

[rocky nacelle]

Me watching void only soyker on any maelstrom

[spare talon]

heavy horde clear

[tight fog]

heavy for clear, lights are chops

[sullen forge]

Oh I have a god roll Taxe 2

[red mesa]

true but in pugs i find thats rarely the case.
I consider myself a pretty good player, 1.5k hours, can solo damnations, often hard carry bad pugs

but i play mostly solo

[spare talon]

taxe is fun till you realize you actually have to kill things in the situation youre in

[red mesa]

and i see very few good players in QP or solo maelstrom

[spare talon]

then it stops being fun

[tight fog]

bust out the flamer

[coarse birch]

Eh taxe is still fun

[red mesa]

haha this is bouncing off me, wym?

[paper harness]

This is me performing badly

[sullen forge]

Idgaf if it’s underperforming over the people using Rashad I like gliding through hordes at the speed of light

[paper harness]

Half of that game was entire team dead

[spare talon]

"oh fuck shits getting heated and this isnt doing enough"

[violet hornet]

Bolter is best gun because it has the loudest dakka

[coarse birch]

This was a mk4 taxe game (idk why i am plagued with liking mk4)

[rocky nacelle]

Ogryn chat is 3 blocks down

[spare talon]

then again i just absolutely do not vibe with the taxe having 0 combo or flow cuz you just spam light attack as fast as you can in a lot of situations which feels terrible to do

[sullen forge]

42 blocked attacks, I can’t tell if it’s accidental or intentional seeing rarely anyone uses that mechanic that’s extremely useful

[red mesa]

oh you mean its not good enough?
so if its an A tier weapon, but not good enough in hot situations...then is it A tier or not? I know you didn't call it A tier im just trying to wrap my head around the complaints that the OP weapons should be nerfed heavily.

I feel like some of the peopel who think that play in premades with other good players

[paper harness]

He’s not used to it

[red mesa]

sometimes as a solo it feels like i can't carry 3 randos through a match without a meta weapon

or its a damn struggle lol

[paper harness]

You aren’t good enough to

[spare talon]

dorns opinion of it is higher than mine
which is perfectly fine, thats kinda what opinions are

[red mesa]

like the moment i get disabled once, the whole match instantly ends type of rounds

are 50% of maelstroms solo

if you're decent lol

[spare talon]

but they just do not click with me

[paper harness]

Just don’t get disabled

[red mesa]

exactly 5head haha

[spare talon]

i time my dodges in relation to my combos
and its much more difficult to do so when the combo is clickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclickclick

[sullen forge]

I literally did a “Duo” with a Psyker cause our two remaining teammates kept fucking dying over and over and I outperformed them with a SIM Shovel

[tight fog]

you reach a zen like state of clicking m1

[red mesa]

which is why sometimes I feel like "ok using this eviserator was fun, but im sick of being the only one up and not being able to clutch hard enough"
so i throw on a knife or rashad bc im sick of 3 randos tanking the rounds lol

[sullen forge]

More damage with a SIM Shovel vs a Psyker

[red mesa]

maybe thats not a good argument not to nerf?

but i feel like it is

having strong weapons you can carry with when played right is fun

[paper harness]

I think when the knife and the Rashad get nerfed a lot of players are going to get a reality check

[red mesa]

and we still have the choice of self regulating

if you're playing premades and its boring with 3-4 good players using meta builds, agree not to

[copper hawk]

I broke up w the rashad

Atrox is my new best friend

The ii w crits is so goofy

The special staggers mutants on headshots

4... some reason

[median steeple]

axe user detected

[red mesa]

how would you suggest nerfing the knife?
bc its one of the most fun weapons, and I really dont want to see it nerfed.

But I know i dont crutch it bc i use a ton of other weapons, im confident in that

i still dont want the speedy stabber taken away

its so fun lol

[sullen forge]

10 bucks says the chats will explode with revert the nerf comments

[paper harness]

Dodge distance, movement speed and finesse scaling

[tight fog]

if the rashad gets nerfed but the antax stays the same ill laugh

i guess theyll just nerf BM

[paper harness]

Bring it down from a constant 4k dps to a 2k

[red mesa]

this lol

the axes i think are fine without it

[copper hawk]

Nerf bm

[misty nova]

Damage on the push attack, nerf it

[copper hawk]

Bricks all the axes

[paper harness]

It’s brutal momentum headtaker

[copper hawk]

Now you cant cleave like at all

[paper harness]

Brutal momentum is the strongest blessing in the game

[tight fog]

antax with its cleave bar, finally maybe useful

[paper harness]

And it shouldn’t have been one

[polar nexus]

You are talking about taxes?

Without me???!

[tight fog]

combat axes

[sullen forge]

Caxes

[spare talon]

yeah which is why its just not clicking for me
cuz ive always preformed better when everything meshes into one coherent string of actions, when the order of everything i do is very deliberate like in here, instead of basically doing 2 seperate strings of actions like i would with the taxe

[paper harness]

All weapons that have bm possible should have increased base cleave

[tight fog]

that is totally fair!

just play what you enjoy

thats the poggers way to play

[rocky nacelle]

Get better adhd cole 🙄

[copper hawk]

6x dmg in one hit

[spare talon]

i already HAVE adhd

[rocky nacelle]

be able to juggle 4 different strings

[red mesa]

what is second, where do you rate uncanny?
just curious lol

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[red mesa]

we were meming on tanner lindberg raging about uncanny before

[paper harness]

Uncanny is entirely situational

On the ds4 it’s bis

[spare talon]

whether uncanny is good depends on what youre using the weapon for and what talents/skills youre running

[paper harness]

On the knife it depends

Lacerate uncanny is instantly strong but only together

[spare talon]

on piety zealot, its unneeded cuz youre critting so much that your adms are to the point where youd get better value out of something like precog

[red mesa]

ya agreed. i like it on knife but without enough crit you dont need

[paper harness]

Precog is almost as consistent

[red mesa]

ds4 its incredible i agree

[spare talon]

on WS vet, its much better cuz youre not critting as much, and the bulk of your damage is from weakpoint, so having the rending will let that massive weakpoint bonus shine through

both are in relation to knife if that wasnt clear

[red mesa]

my only issue is i often want flesh tearer on knife to help horde clear, and without uncanny you sort of need reposte on it too for that crit.
reposte precog is good, but its a choice without flesh tearer

i go back and forth

[spare talon]

you dont need fleshtearer cuz if youre making a knife build, you typically get enough damage from the tree to be able to one shot an enemy every swing even without a crit

[red mesa]

ya true

i still find it helps

like i said i go back and forth

[sullen forge]

If it’s Veteran as well there’s literally a talent called Reciprocity

[red mesa]

sometimes bleed fantasy is just fun

[spare talon]

plus FT only helping you on a swing that has an even higher chance of one shotting them even to the body is just less useful in reality

[sullen forge]

Crit on Dodge like, it’s free crits

[rocky nacelle]

Precog my beloved

finesse maxxing

[spare talon]

its really nice
but youre still having to give up 1 of your 2 blessings lots for FT

when i believe that uncanny/mk (with serrated) is going to be the most effective combo universally

[red mesa]

do we know or have any idea (i know testers hang out here) what fatshark has in mind for balance?
do you guys think these nerfs (knife, rashad, void, plasma etc) are def in the works?

i just dont want them to nuke the fun mobile playstyle of the knife

its a blast

i kind of dont care if its op

[ornate bone]

they are going to make knife a butter knife next update

[red mesa]

games are here for fun lol

[modern lintel]

Youll never be able to hit peak finesse w out vet

[ornate bone]

you will deal 2 damage but cause twice the bleed stacks!

[rocky nacelle]

insert daemonhost talking

No I won’t do it I won’t

I won’t level my vet to 30

https://tenor.com/view/black-guy-insane-crazy-madness-gif-926520943501877665

[red mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/gross-yum-well-maybe-so-smirk-gif-14815339

[ornate bone]

quintuple the bleed stacks!

all of the bleed stacks!

[sullen forge]

I need to use the Taxes more

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-prince-of-egypt-prince-of-egypt-parting-the-sea-moses-ratio-gif-26642551

man stopper 4

[paper harness]

FT sucks use uncanny lacerate like a chad

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/typing-several-people-are-typing-gif-15407184

[sullen forge]

Serrated Shart talent making you do tickle damage

[polar nexus]

Rashad is an inferior taxe tbh hot take

[red mesa]

ok so

after all this

should i consider myself a bad person when i pull this out?

im just memeing lol

but that roll is juicy

[sullen forge]

Taxe is funnier to use imo

[polar nexus]

agree

[red mesa]

ya the convo has convinced me to roll an mkii taxe i havent tried one in ages

[polar nexus]

i prefer the mk7 more

pa + h1 combo feels less clunky

[sullen forge]

What are they going to do fucking nerf it? When the majority of players want the Taxe buffed for some reason

Prefer the 2 and 4

Just matters what I’m feeling

[polar nexus]

if they nerf bm, taxes would be affected but not to the extent of caxes

you can do without fine

[sullen forge]

They still perform well it’s just you’ll notice Rashad tears very quickly

I want more of an excuse for Veterans to be using the Shovels cause they’re actually good

[rocky nacelle]

them nerfing bromentum meanwhile slaughterer head taker chaxe is just 1 shotting everything

[sullen forge]

Max Stacks

Damage stim

Specials a DH

Fucking dies instantly

[rocky nacelle]

thrust feels too good though on the mk12

[sullen forge]

Not the mk4?

Heresy

[rocky nacelle]

Nope sticky heavies feel better

[north sedge]

it can work either way

12 just is the dedicated heavy boy

[modern lintel]

I hate the heavies on the sapper shovels when folded theyre like ultra sticky

[fleet zealot]

so photohygenic

[polar nexus]

time for your daily dose of amphetamins Mr Ferret

[modern lintel]

Beast of the admonition

[fleet zealot]

wrong ferrets are loyal servants of the god emperor of mankind

thank u very much

[fleet zealot]

i don't take those

[modern lintel]

Where are my martyr ferrets