zealot-class

[hard nexus]

sooooo

[placid fiber]

[hard nexus]

get owned, woke

[coarse birch]

once a week gotta be a new record

[hard nexus]

LMAO

[placid fiber]

Ow

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/gabcelestial-darksouls-shower-genshin-shower-darksouls-players-gif-27461926

[placid fiber]

Dude

[hard nexus]

yes exactly

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/touhou-touhou-player-dodging-gif-27164477

[hard nexus]

i got hit with one drop of rain yesterday and it sizzled

[rocky nacelle]

which way western man

[placid fiber]

I might play some more Darktide later tonight and learn the knife some more

I know the "build" I was using isn't a knife build, but, it is a me build which helps me learn the knife more <.<

[drifting wolf]

destiny 2 players dpsing the shower head

[merry flume]

learning the knife is just learning how to put both riposte perks in your favor

that dodge into heavy is just

[hard nexus]

insert cole clip here

[rocky nacelle]

(they fucked up their super cycle cause d2 players suck)

[placid fiber]

It's more learning how to not accidentally heavy 3 in a horde for me I think

[merry flume]

insert this

unzips knife

[hard nexus]

PENAR

oh

unzips ur face

and

wears it

like skinwalker

[merry flume]

face off

[coarse birch]

you can block cancel really quickly on knife

[merry flume]

zoomer...

[drifting wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/bilibili-destiny2-gos-garden-garden-of-salvation-gif-24218339

[coarse birch]

to cut off h3

[merry flume]

https://tenor.com/view/faceoff-face-john-travolta-nicholas-cage-off-gif-18512684

[coarse birch]

which is nice

[rocky nacelle]

ok

dclaw practicing

away i go

[hard nexus]

why would u do that

oh

do u mean for horde clear

[coarse birch]

ye

[hard nexus]

ohg

yah

[coarse birch]

can also just PA after h2

[hard nexus]

idk if i like knife anymore

i havent used it in so long

[rocky nacelle]

i usually do something like 3-4 lights PA and then just light again

at least with mk3

[hard nexus]

when i ran coles build with it

it was bleh

[rocky nacelle]

mk6 got some nicer feeling bombos

[coarse birch]

its an aquired taste

[hard nexus]

ive tried both

[coarse birch]

mk6 does have a nice moveset

[hard nexus]

i used to almost only run it on zealot

[coarse birch]

although i prefer the mk3 still

[rocky nacelle]

finally someone who remotely likes the mk6

[placid fiber]

The knife and rushing is an aquired taste/skill for me >.<

[rocky nacelle]

in any shape or form

thought i was the only 1

[hard nexus]

cole likes it

[rocky nacelle]

he uses mk3 tho

[hard nexus]

on vet

[coarse birch]

so do i lol

[placid fiber]

I like the mk 6 knife compared to the mk 3...

[hard nexus]

but zealot he runs mk6

[coarse birch]

i just like the moveset of mk6

[placid fiber]

I hate the mk 3 knife

[rocky nacelle]

whats your horde loop look like yoshi

I usually do H1 H2 while dodging sideways

then push attack

[hard nexus]

heavy heavy light repeat

[rocky nacelle]

loop

[placid fiber]

What I was told to do was either heavy 1 heavy 2 light heavy 2 light heavy 2 light heavy 2, or heavy heavy light light heavy heavy light light etc

[coarse birch]

id probably do PA spam if i have the stam or H1 H2 PA block cancel or something

can even just do H1 H2 block cancel

[rocky nacelle]

also dragging your mouse around while meleeing like an acoustic person in mordhau works in this game (i think)

it feels like it

[fossil crag]

just do heavy pa loop

[rocky nacelle]

yeah thats more or less what I always do in a horde with mk6

[placid fiber]

Hey, I am getting better at the heavy heavy light light loop

It is just so fast...

that sometimes I do 3 lights after the 2 heavies

[obsidian prairie]

I just spam heavy heavy block cancel for mk6

Or light spam if I want more cooldown speed

[rocky nacelle]

i like mk6 push attack

[placid fiber]

My real knife build is the crit build, but, the build I am using is a me build which is making learning the knife less stressful for me >.>

[placid fiber]

Used it against maulers on the 2nd run lol

I might never actually get really good at the knife, it is just a bit too fast for me I think as far as swing speed goes

Still I want to learn it somewhat

[rocky nacelle]

well if ur already trapping yourself in the mindset like that yea

you wont get good at it

[placid fiber]

It isn't that I think I won't get good at it, it is that I know the attack speed is an issue for me dealing with

I can learn to deal with it, but, I will only get so far... but that won't stop me from trying to get further

I am stubborn, if I wanna do something I'll do it

To hell with the difficulties

[rocky nacelle]

r u saying

its too fast?

[placid fiber]

for my brain to comprehend stuff sometimes? Yep >.>

The more panicked I get, I bet the better I can use the faster combos since my reaction time gets much better

[jaunty lava]

For speedrunning with a knife, whats your preferences everyone? I cant decide between momentum and piety

[placid fiber]

piety

Is my guess anyway

since the knife + crit works quite well

[jaunty lava]

My current setup is piety but with the backstab cdr too

[rocky nacelle]

r u picking up knife only to "speedrun"?

also as speed is concerned you'd probably want IJ

[placid fiber]

Ah

[jaunty lava]

I'm just looking for a new way to play and i tried with a friend not long ago, we failed miserably but had so much fun

Speedrunning i mean, we went for the zealot penance as a duo at the same time

[rocky nacelle]

damn hes got a taste for the speed

hes a lost cause....

[hard nexus]

piety stealth, for cdr

[placid fiber]

I seem to remember you two ganging up on me for not going fast on zealot in general...

at the start of the 2nd match

[rocky nacelle]

yea i can talk shit cause its funny

[jaunty lava]

It was private games dont flame me

[placid fiber]

[placid fiber]

I know, I did find it funny as well lol

I was just giving you the shit back

[rocky nacelle]

when TH is faster than knife

[placid fiber]

That means that the TH user isn't a loot goblin

[rocky nacelle]

fair enuf

[placid fiber]

[jaunty lava]

He tried at first before i convinced him to take a knife. He never built one before

[placid fiber]

I love loot goblining so much... in all games lol

[jaunty lava]

Also what is your solution to bosses while speedrunning? We had quite a few run that ended in an elevator with a boss and a horde after us

[placid fiber]

Run past em, You should have seen Cole in action

That's what he did. Just ignored em and rushed straight to the end

[frosty herald]

@rocky nacelle

[placid fiber]

idk for sure, what they recommend on it so don't listen to me on that. That was just what I saw and he's a god-tier knife zealot(Epic_Cole I mean)

That's something I made from how inspiring he is lol

[pseudo sage]

what perks ?

[obsidian ore]

very nice. our people are strong together

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-goodness-gracious-meme-template-humping-hump-thrust-gif-26373779

ok CB gotta be a weapon I use playing through the game at all times

[median steeple]

The animations are peak

[frosty herald]

I love that you just punch the chargeblade through the monster cause it gets stuck

[median steeple]

I think it was the swaxe or something but its mount attack is crazy good looking

[median steeple]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1ez1q3s/goofy_ahh_hammer_move/

[frosty herald]

Hammer looks so peak

[rocky nacelle]

https://fxtwitter.com/TheDevilDucker/status/1827034256360505621

[frosty herald]

Elemental discharge into full release slash is badass

[rocky nacelle]

when I see a lvl 30 vet try to VoC pick someone up (they respawned and you gotta free them)

https://tenor.com/view/tekken3-tekken-tekken-cutscene-tekken-cope-cope-gif-23885311

rinda event is funny

[rocky nacelle]

finally demon riot it works

[frosty herald]

welcome back demon riot

also welcome back spinning meteor

hopefully well get a demo before the end of the year

[rocky nacelle]

i cant do demos

i just want full game

[frosty herald]

i want a demo to see if my specs are good for the game and to learn the hammer moveset

[placid fiber]

What about a Demo to try Stan's food choices?

[rough dune]

Hey wait a minute

@spare talon aren't you the guy that got a veteran shoutout on the subreddit?

Saying you saved a team single handedly by playing like a zealot on your vet

[placid fiber]

At least you can play like a zealot on the Vet, to help bridge the gap between Vet and Zealot

If I couldn't play like a zealot on the vet then I probably wouldn't even play them anymore

I remember how painful the 1.25s stamina regen delay was on Vet...

[rocky nacelle]

oh no now they've found their way in here

you're done for cole

never having a normal darktide experience again

[wraith cipher]

broooooooooo i need the supposed weapons update

so many bricks

[spare talon]

Oh fuck

Yeah that was me

[rough dune]

Noice

I think I found your stealth piety build for knife

I'm about to test run it

[spare talon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1276055458595078206/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2024-07-04_12-48-10_AM.mp4?ex=66ca1d01&is=66c8cb81&hm=e0d76094a991ae34a0a882dcd3140cc26e32bc33fe91d1e501d523f56cef2465&

This was that game the post was referring to

[spare talon]

From this server?

If it skips both until death and the final right side piety node, and has precog/riposte and a flamer then yeah it's likely mine

[rocky nacelle]

@frosty herald https://fxtwitter.com/QuirklessStoner/status/1827016160547680276

https://fxtwitter.com/Rainy_Moody/status/1826908885128823007

finally real fucking chainsaw

bayo 2 chainsaw

[frosty herald]

Wait a min

Was that an ead into a slash into saed?

[rocky nacelle]

yes.

[rough dune]

I think that's the right talent tree, but I'm running a Mk III with T4 uncanny strike and flesh tearer

[spare talon]

This is mine

[spare talon]

It sacrifices the 10% from piety cuz I already have riposte on the knife

[rough dune]

Ahhhh, gotcha. What would you do with my particular blessings then?

[spare talon]

If you don't have riposte, I'd swap the atk speed for that final piety node

[rough dune]

Done

[wraith cipher]

ohohoh

another build

whats this for

[rough dune]

Is that knife decent?

Had to lock the +10 specialists on it because the other perk was originally block efficiency.

[spare talon]

The specialist damage sucks but with uncanny on there you're pretty flexible in what it can be used for

Flesh tearer is perfectly viable when paired with uncanny so no complaints there, but you can just as easily run other combos

[rocky nacelle]

laceratre

[rough dune]

Yeah, it's just what I can do with the 2 locked slots. Reitemization, I might rethink if I find those T4 blessings. Don't have them now though

[spare talon]

You can run riposte for a very high and very reliable crit boost for consistency

[rough dune]

Lacerate is garbage

[rocky nacelle]

i said laceratre

buddy

[spare talon]

You could run precog for beeg hits

[rough dune]

I want precog but haven't farmed it yet

I just switched over from an indignatus maul build. That weapon is way too fun

[spare talon]

Cuz it's a finesse boost which applies to headshot and crit dmg so it can double down
And with duellist in the tree which is basically the same thing in talent form, zealot makes the best use of precog

Not to mention how high their crit chance gets reliably

[modern lintel]

Im going to lacerate you

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-nuh-uh-scout-tf2-gif-12750436057634665505

i have holy rev

🤓

[grizzled aspen]

Yes.

[modern lintel]

Holy shit scatman just started playing on my cars radio

[rough dune]

SKIBIDIBIDI BA BA DA BAP

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/weirdcat-funnycat-psychich-assault-gif-66649479801514757

my influence grows

[obsidian prairie]

Zealots I swear

[rocky nacelle]

someone call yam

found another executor

[obsidian prairie]

They also a fresh 30

[median steeple]

this shit is so cursed

[obsidian prairie]

This is going to be interesting

[fleet zealot]

AHHHHHHHHHHHH

[fallen cliff]

tried thunderhammers after not touching them for ages
they are so underwhelming its not funny

meanwhile new shovels 2 shot crushers

how can this even be

[fleet zealot]

thunderhammers are entirely reliant on 2 damage blessings to function and thne thrust 4 to fulfill their niche

also the meta just shifted away from them, less single big elites, more packs of smaller elites

[fallen cliff]

shotgunners surviving charged lights to the nogging

[fleet zealot]

more bruisers when it already struggles with horde clear speed

that shouldn't happen if you are ramped up tbh

[fallen cliff]

no hope for the imperium when a bum with a shotgun can survive a thunder huammer to the face

[fleet zealot]

maybe as an opener it would fail if you don't have a baseline with martyrdom?

[fallen cliff]

nah, tried non trust ones without martyrdom

[rocky nacelle]

i swapped to IJ from trying to make marty work

and sadly

IJ is just better

feels better too

[fallen cliff]

just took them on my crusher build

crusher just cruhes non optimized TH so hard

[fleet zealot]

IJ is better but more for the backstab cdr

[rocky nacelle]

u mean backstab

shit is crazy

[fleet zealot]

yes

you are correct

[rocky nacelle]

lemme look at it cause

the details go crazy

(also for some odd reason they said fuck specifically chain weapons)

[fallen cliff]

after health boosters were added i joined the 2 wound gang

280hp zealot chonker

[wraith cipher]

can you use heavy sword in place of

or no

just knife boiz

[rocky nacelle]

in place of what

[wraith cipher]

knife

[rocky nacelle]

uh you'd have to change the build around a bit

cause you arent critting really with an HSword

[wraith cipher]

ah

[rocky nacelle]

HSword that dorn passed on to me

[fallen cliff]

crit with everything

HS becomes a meatgrinder

[fleet zealot]

you should see how chain weapons just don't work with shroudfield xd

[rocky nacelle]

@wraith cipher

[fallen cliff]

balls in charge to start the mincing

[rocky nacelle]

thats why anytime someone asks about Evisc shroudfield I tell them its forbidden

its not real

it doesnt even exist.

[wraith cipher]

ayyeee moementum too

[rocky nacelle]

(how dog shit is it for shroudfield)

I heard they cant do the trick you can do

for FOF + chain weapons

but I really wanna know just how garbage it is lmfao

[rocky nacelle]

very strong and very fun

solid build

Heavies/specials annihilate hordes

and heavies + DBlow just shit on packs of ragers

just make sure to weakspot hit

[fallen cliff]

why doesnt shroudfield not work with evisc btw

[wraith cipher]

i gave up and settled for ht rampage

T_T

[fallen cliff]

(i touched shroudfield like once)

[rocky nacelle]

thats good too

[coarse birch]

it doesnt proc on any rev hits properly

[rocky nacelle]

yoshi was running that

[coarse birch]

it counts for one tick

[rocky nacelle]

yoshi tell ekzek that HTaker rampage is fine on HSword

[coarse birch]

HT rampage is fine on hsword

just not BIS

[fallen cliff]

well, it should heavily boost heavy1 of the vanilla evisc still

[rocky nacelle]

🤝

[wraith cipher]

T_T

https://tenor.com/view/jesse-hutch-my-birthday-romance-backhanded-compliment-thats-a-good-backhanded-compliment-gif-26973396

[rocky nacelle]

so chain weapons have this funny multi hit and first hit thing @fallen cliff

i can show you can example

with chastise the wicked

[fallen cliff]

i know the tick rev damage, but heavy1 of the tigrus mk2 doesnt even have ticks

[rocky nacelle]

yea H1 is just the cleaver

H2 is the strike down

[fallen cliff]

and i think it still doesnt if revving into chaff

so use it like a gimped chastize lol

with an extra utility of aggroing everything onto your allies

[rocky nacelle]

all I know is chain weapons

• shroudfield

like oil and water

[fallen cliff]

i know how to fix this

shroudfield + lmb spam with orestes mk12

[lusty oar]

extermination of all danish swine

[fallen cliff]

for maximum uselesness

[lusty oar]

oh

[fallen cliff]

and its still optimized since no revv ticks

[modern lintel]

The danes will pay for this

[fleet zealot]

you can't do the trick with shroudfield and it only counts the 1 tick

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/yuckers-yummers-homelander-its-yummers-gif-10513465113292340707

[fleet zealot]

if you try to do the fotf trick you will cancel your swing with shroudfield

[rocky nacelle]

cant assassinate people with chainsaws

smh

[modern lintel]

The exact scenario i had trying to run stealth on psword this morning

[rocky nacelle]

https://tenor.com/view/blissful-malevonence-gif-10192619856801101589

[fleet zealot]

stealth psword can work

cause of the aggro drop

[paper harness]

But why

[fleet zealot]

actually pretty good with commando build in general

[paper harness]

Brutal momentum is still bis

[wraith cipher]

so for pious cut throat is the easiest method to just dodge around to give out back shots

[wraith cipher]

hs no caxe

[rocky nacelle]

honestly I dont even actively fish for it

[fallen cliff]

anyway why ever shroudfield if chastize exists
chastize>shroud simply because
First - you shout like a madman
Second, it gets you into GLORIOUS MELEE COMBAT faster
Thrird, it buffs chain weapons by downgrading carapace to flak armor (I think)

[rocky nacelle]

it just happens alot

throughout a match

since you wont always be pulling aggro 24/7

and if theres a tauntgryn even better

[paper harness]

Deadblow is brutal momentum

[rocky nacelle]

its one of those its just good whether you focus on it or not nodes

[paper harness]

Fyi

[wraith cipher]

i know

i gave up after 13 legendaries

i didnt get the right mix of perks

and blessings

[paper harness]

I stop at blue for a reason

[rocky nacelle]

going past blue is asking to go broke

[paper harness]

I stop at green now

[rocky nacelle]

ive been buying greens and fishing for blessings off those

forever

for everything

[wraith cipher]

i was also fishing for tier 4s at the same time

[rocky nacelle]

also melk and blues having it sometimes in shop

[wraith cipher]

2 birds 1 stone

thing

ended up with this

called it a day

[rocky nacelle]

not mk7 bricked

[broken walrus]

Does Deathblow make a difference? With Maniac and Flak, 2 heavies kills ragers doesnt it?

[modern lintel]

Id take it over rampage tbh

[fallen cliff]

who needs +damage when you cleave so hard strikes hit the immaterium

[paper harness]

cleaving 4 ragers at the same time

[fleet zealot]

dblow lets you multikill 4 enemies at once, including elites. it is the best blessing

[fleet zealot]

disgusting

🤢

[wraith cipher]

_> how high does the cleave cap go

[fleet zealot]

actual pub player tier

[paper harness]

dead blow is infinite

[paper harness]

as many targets as the weapon can hit

[fallen cliff]

duh, where do you think i play lol

[rocky nacelle]

hey i solo queue random auric/mael all the time (just not QP)

[lusty oar]

only duo mmt lobbies with twin linked shredder autopistol

[fallen cliff]

quickplay auric is the way to go
followed by not checking match mutators

[wraith cipher]

2 sec to read

but its 0 to queue

[fleet zealot]

the first target damage only carries over for the first 4 oneshot weakspot kills

they nerfed it shortly after the rework

[obsidian prairie]

FINALLY found a Vet knife

[paper harness]

I refuse to play certain conditions

[fallen cliff]

also forgot to add when it crits it blows the powersword out of the water and bleeds the whole screen

[rocky nacelle]

oh look telopots dropped a hitmass/cleave video

perfect to watch with dinner

[modern lintel]

Holy mid

[paper harness]

toiletpot

[rocky nacelle]

i could always be watching tanner

(fuck that)

also the worst voice ive ever heard lmao

[modern lintel]

Sometimes you need a little rage bait

[rocky nacelle]

i just read steam forums

or reddit when im bored

close enough

[modern lintel]

Every so often ill be scrolling youtube and hell have decided to post another cosplay youtubes an odd place for it but ok

[fleet zealot]

steam forum takes are peak

[wraith cipher]

wait you want the mk7?

[coarse birch]

They are all p good

[paper harness]

7 best, kinda like with dclaws

[wraith cipher]

how come?

doesnt 9 have better combos?

[paper harness]

no

[fallen cliff]

7 has a heavy1 overhead

[placid fiber]

That's the 6/9 that have an overhead heavy 1...

the 7 is a cleaving heavy 1

[fallen cliff]

boo mixed them up

[lusty oar]

unforgivable

face the wall

[wraith cipher]

so uh...

[placid fiber]

the 7 is, more or less, the opposite of the 6 for the heavies

[fallen cliff]

forgot i had it

[placid fiber]

and the 6 is the one I prefer out of the 3

[fallen cliff]

smh only HS drops with good enough perks/blessings that i dont even touch them

[paper harness]

bricked n

[mystic nacelle]

deathblow, headtaker, flak

dont have em roll a new one

[fallen cliff]

mixed up the h1 overhead with h2 overhead on the HS7

[placid fiber]

Personally I don't mind having rampage instead deathblow, but, I know deathblow is the prefered 2nd blessing

I also am not the best at making use out of deathblow, though

[fallen cliff]

why flack on HS if it has no impact on light attacks and heavies do 500dmg anyway

[mystic nacelle]

because flak + duellist is a oneshot into dreg bruisers

you kill 5 in a single swing that way

no other buffs required

[obsidian prairie]

also flak is probably the best armor perk anyway

[fallen cliff]

with a horizontal heavy without deathblow?

[placid fiber]

Flakiac is great for the heavy sword, but I don't mind flak + unarmored either

[mystic nacelle]

the direction is irrelevant, flak is bis

[placid fiber]

I mean I've gotten headshots with the heavy 2 on the mk 6 and that's not very easy considering the angle it comes in at

[fallen cliff]

tbh i dont mind 3 shotting a screenful of bruisers with +unarmored

with a h+l+h on HS mk7

[paper harness]

just one shot them

[mystic nacelle]

you still have 2 swaps, just get rid of ss and crit chance later, sword is useable till you roll a new one

[fallen cliff]

butbut muh cleave

[placid fiber]

You don't want savage sweep on any heavy sword...?

[mystic nacelle]

i will eat your dog, swap em

[paper harness]

useless when you have hit mass

[spare talon]

Oh no
Not the loss of cleave on my 10 cleave weapon

[placid fiber]

I mean... savage sweep on a heavy sword is like savage sweep on the mk 15 eviscerator

[fallen cliff]

without it HS gets stuck sometimes in chaff

and thats no bueno

[spare talon]

Savage sweep on hsword is literally a meme

[placid fiber]

and both rampage and headtaker increase cleave...

[mystic nacelle]

it getting stuck is irrelevant, its 4 kills vs 1

[spare talon]

By the time you're getting stuck on chaff, your cleave damage profile is already exhausted and you're dealing like 16 damage

[placid fiber]

^

[fallen cliff]

i got you fam

[obsidian prairie]

Fucking psykers I swear

[spare talon]

WHYYYYYYY

WHY

[fallen cliff]

at that point its not about damage but flinching dudes

[placid fiber]

I mean if you want your weapon to perform worse, then that's on you.

[spare talon]

The mk15 has a hard cap of 4 on cleave damage and already has like 12 targets on its cleave stat

[fallen cliff]

tried to make it work like mk2 with its very nice killy and cleaving heavy1

[mystic nacelle]

take shred or bloodthirsty

[spare talon]

You don't need to flinch the 2 extra dudes if you're on top of pushes and dodges, or if they're yknow
Dead

[paper harness]

brick

[placid fiber]

Ah yes, the cleaving overhead attack >.>

[spare talon]

All mk15s are single target hits

[mystic nacelle]

you could end homelessness with all those bricks

[fallen cliff]

on the other hand you see my problem with having savage sweep

same with the evisc

[sterile stone]

Lies and propaganda

[fallen cliff]

im just sitting and waiting the itemization rework

[spare talon]

Meant heavy
Mobile typing moment

[paper harness]

L

[spare talon]

What's that t2

If it's ht or db

[spare talon]

That's much better even at t2

[spare talon]

Use that

[placid fiber]

35% power adds cleave >.>

[spare talon]

And 35% more damage

And 35% more impact

[placid fiber]

which multiplies by damage bonuses

[fallen cliff]

first are we sure that power% is 1 to 1 to damg and impact

besides doesnt impact affect damage too?

[placid fiber]

no

[fallen cliff]

and tbh those 2 HSs were fine as is on auric/mael

they did they job at clearing hordes well

[spare talon]

Power is all 3 in one
And it is an additional bonus to damage, an additional multiplier

So it starts snowballing the numbers

[placid fiber]

What we're telling you is that power, on top of increasing stagger and cleave, multiplies its bonus to damage times damage bonuses

[spare talon]

And yes, one of the best horde clearing weapons even with 0 blessings is still going to do well against hordes regardless
But you can make it better

[placid fiber]

Making your heavy sword do better in all instances is always good

[spare talon]

You can do well with anything in auric if you have the skill to back it up
But having your gear be better will only further improve your preformance

[placid fiber]

^

And make it require less effort as well for some things

[spare talon]

Plus in the specific case if headtaker
It makes the sword much more potent in not just hordes, but against bigger single target enemies like bosses, monstrosities, and crushers (if you're ever forced into that position)

Cuz you're doing 35-40% more damage flat out

[placid fiber]

Yep

And with sustained assault, or w/e it is called, you doing 1.3(with 5 stacks) x 1.35(up to 1.4) damage

[visual stream]

Counterpoint: dclaw post crit nerf

[placid fiber]

I say 1.3 because there's a 5% melee node right above it lol

[mystic nacelle]

sustained is 4% per stack

[placid fiber]

Is it?

[visual stream]

I believe so

[mystic nacelle]

yeah and headtaker is usually 5, except for HS which is 8

[visual stream]

Total bonus of 20%

At max stacks

iirc

[mystic nacelle]

i dont know why they made it 8% but whatever

[placid fiber]

It was nerfed

it was 15% lol

I could have sworn sustained was 5% per stack, but, you're right it is 4%

but there is another 5% melee node here as well so I guess I still do have a total of 30% with all 5 stacks >.>

[fallen cliff]

lets say i just earned deathblow3

and the thing already 1shots bruisers with stacks of headtaker

[placid fiber]

Deathblow would be better over rampage, imo

since headtaker is still an overall damage increase that doesn't require 3 targets hit each time

Still personally I would take 25% flak and keep rampage on that heavy sword, but, I don't mind not having deathblow myself

[fallen cliff]

but if the target is alone it would take 2-4 hits for it to ramp up, at that point why not just pull out a revolver

[mystic nacelle]

what are you hitting tho

[fallen cliff]

mauler/carapace

everything else dies to the HS as is

[placid fiber]

I mean it depends on if you want to use ammo or not and if it is in your face

[mystic nacelle]

in that case ht is still bis, you cant get more damage otherwise

[placid fiber]

Plus you should be hitting the body of a mauler with almost any weapon

Except like a powered mk 6 powersword... which does more to the head for some reason <.<

[spare talon]

Oh yeah
A few hours ago when I was at work/not in chat
Someone pinged me and went "hey are you the guy that reddit post was praising, the vet playing like a zealot?"
Lmao

[placid fiber]

I was there

I remember that lol

[spare talon]

[placid fiber]

counter counterpoint: having fun in games

[mystic nacelle]

youre playing darktide so thats not possible

[placid fiber]

Aw man... u rite...

[fallen cliff]

countercountercounterpoint thunderhammers since release

[paper harness]

No enemies spawn so less op things must become

[placid fiber]

After all I only have 1650 hours in the game...

Still less than half of the time I've put into ror2...

[visual stream]

https://tenor.com/view/peppa-pig-its-impossible-impossible-not-possible-its-unimaginable-gif-21368886

[placid fiber]

What are your thoughts on zealoting it up as a Vet? lol

[calm thorn]

just spent 800k on combat axes thinking i was rolling chainaxes

[placid fiber]

Honestly I can see that happening to me if I was tired enough

[spare talon]

Based as fuck

[placid fiber]

I know the names, though, so I generally won't make that mistake even then though

[visual stream]

"These are some weird blessings for chaxe"

[spare talon]

Vet can get higher unconditional damage that zealot

With knife

Like I'm one shotting gunners to the head

[placid fiber]

I mean I am not good with the knife, but, I do generally use my melee more than my ranged on Vet lol

[calm thorn]

did the same thing with an autogun, so now i have 2 god rolls for 2 things ill never use.

[visual stream]

Chord and db is my favorite zealot/vet crossover feeling

[calm thorn]

80 in everything sure is pretty though

[spare talon]

I'm doing it with knife db

[placid fiber]

I mean... you have the 30% weakspot damage talent and desperado... so yeah lol

and more damage to elites and ogryns/monsters

and talents that give really strong buffs to close enemies on career skill useage...

[obtuse solstice]

is good balance worth it over 15 toughness or 10% hp

[calm thorn]

toughness >

[placid fiber]

is that the 25% dr on dodge?

[calm thorn]

who needs health when you can gain 2000000000 toughness in a game

[mystic nacelle]

yes

[placid fiber]

I mean I would take the 15 toughness, myself, but I am used to having lots of toughness

and stacking it

[mystic nacelle]

post the full tree and we can answer that

[spare talon]

Exactly

[placid fiber]

Even though I would benefit a lot from good balance since I dodge a metric fuck ton...

[obtuse solstice]

just standard momentum

[placid fiber]

and you can 2 shot crushers with no buffs(like extra temporary damage buffs I mean) with both power swords when done right...

without +25% carapace

[spare talon]

Plus mercy killer too
I need to find out if MK is additive with the others or if it an additional bonus increasing the damage number after all other bonuses

[spare talon]

I'd say yes in basically every build

[placid fiber]

I mean cole would probably know

[south folio]

coke

[lusty oar]

cole float

[hushed agate]

https://tenor.com/view/coke-coca-cola-jumpscare-gif-25304471

[placid fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/telmo-coca-harina-raquetaso-esnifar-gif-25660568

[south folio]

so true

[lusty oar]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[placid fiber]

Cole when knife zealoting

[placid fiber]

I'll take 20

[copper hawk]

Ur noob

[placid fiber]

And? lol

[hushed agate]

Good shit

Watch crafting rework get delayed

[paper harness]

It hasn’t been announced

[hushed agate]

They said this year likely fall

But yes the exact date hasn't been announced

[spare talon]

I thought they said at the end of summer

[mystic nacelle]

supposed to be but it isnt, it moved

[hushed agate]

The end of summer is fall no?

[mystic nacelle]

"Now, itemization is slated to release after summer."

[modern lintel]

Perchance

[hushed agate]

Friendliest pitbull named princess

[mystic nacelle]

brave dog protecting owner from violent doorbell sound

[fleet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-bro-he-bite-pitbull-dog-gif-11595593516513616736

[paper harness]

After summer

[ornate bone]

Kid called John

[spare talon]

did you see the esiemo asmr

[visual stream]

Show me those Ironhelms.

[ornate bone]

The only Esiemo content I consume is getting another fucking skill mod while trying to combine for Jayber's

[spare talon]

https://youtube.com/shorts/4ElaztiOUEM?si=GHoeIwDetUob_C6k

[ornate bone]

https://tenor.com/view/paolumu-odogaron-monster-hunter-world-destroy-mhw-gif-12955710175627893233

[spare talon]

esiemo gets fucking punched in the throat by ajax in it

[ornate bone]

REAL

[spare talon]

official TFD youtube channel btw

so its literally canon

they really just solidified the fact that esiemo is a fucking moron in 4k

[ornate bone]

Holy fuck this is high quality

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/one-peak-one-piece-one-piece-cry-its-so-peak-gif-13413926760013023520

[ornate bone]

I was wondering how they had ripped all the assets before looking at the channel

[hushed knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-cute-peeking-shy-gif-17733461

[spare talon]

no its official

its so fucking good

[ornate bone]

If they do that more, it'll be really cool

Kinda like TF2 building itself on SFM shitposting

I want Bunny killbind now

[spare talon]

have you finished the bunny quest

and watched the final cutscene

[ornate bone]

Aye

Yesse

[spare talon]

enzo rendered fucking blind

you hate to see it

[ornate bone]

It was actually really good

Kinda watered my eyes a bit

Gave character to the characters

[spare talon]

also lepic is a certified dipshit

fuck that guy

[ornate bone]

Lepic and Enzo are weird

Enzo is described as serious or something,and Lepic as the carefree one

Enzo is carefree, Lepic is a serial arsonist

[spare talon]

enzo didnt do anything wrong
he was just there and got cake in his eye

[ornate bone]

Punished Venom Enzo

No idea why Viessa is there

I guess she kinda likes people

[ornate bone]

I want to see more interactions like that, it makes the characters feel alive when they aren't doing the Oblivion zoom and looping a dialogue animation

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/african-kid-omg-crying-gif-8702984

[ornate bone]

And Bunny's cutscenes make me eager to see other stories

[fleet zealot]

i had a pittie/goldie mix growing up and she was the sweetest thing

[ornate bone]

Stuff like Freyna dealing with trauma, Gley getting closure for her daughter, Enzo getting over Lepic's arm, Yujin dealing with the loss of his team

Holy shit, half of these people are fucked

[spare talon]

i remember reading that ajax had been stuck in the void for decades
and he doesnt trust the void intercept guy a single bit
but he knows that people are going to go through with them anyway so he puts himself in direct charge of operations cuz he doesnt want the newer descendants fucking it up

[modern lintel]

Me having like a 60 first target on my only 380

[ornate bone]

Forced killing of friends and lover, lone survivor, the lone survivor is your family and lost his fucking arm, permanently stuck inside a watertight suit, literally a torso that grew armored limbs put of pure rage, missing daughter, growing up isolated in a hospital with only a nanny bot

They sure pick the most stable peopld

E

[ornate bone]

Skeletor would mald if he had enough hair to even categorize as going bald

SORRY BUDDY I'LL JUST GRAPPLE BACK ON THE MAP AFTER GETTING KNOCKED AWAY FROM IT

[median steeple]

I started losing my shit when the new TFD trailer had the AI voice

shit was hilarious

I still need to get blair

[ornate bone]

The Irish guide

Or was that like AI AI

[median steeple]

AI

Like it had the same way of speaking

it was during gamescom and the uploaded version doesnt have it

so it looks like im insane

[modern lintel]

(Hes insane)

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/kravchenko-you-fucking-fool-fool-cold-war-cold-war-zombies-gif-14086836128171403561

[modern lintel]

My spotify release radar has had some of the same songs in each rotation for 3 weeks in a row wtf

[ornate bone]

The more you listen, the more it probably thinks you absolutely love repeating

I have that kind of thing

Not that I don't love Heart-Shaped Black Scar by Ember Falls, but

[spare talon]

guess whos the gunlugger

[median steeple]

hmm so full of ammo packs

[hard nexus]

why don’t u have the ammo wasted thing displayed

[spare talon]

oh is thqat a thing

he summoned both dhs cuz he could

[paper harness]

Me when branx

[median steeple]

cursed asf emote

[paper harness]

If I am running a strong weapon 9/10 I’m setting her off

[visual stream]

Chat I might be on the news tomorrow for something epic

[paper harness]

I pick dclaw, lights out, it’s annoying the pubs time

[spare talon]

me when i am called a "main character syndrome r###rd" and i look to my left and see the gunlugger eating 8x as much ammo and double dipping the ammo crate

[paper harness]

I will quadruple dip if someone shit talks

[spare talon]

huh

[visual stream]

Don't worry about it

[spare talon]

wuh
were you the victim
or the offender

[spare talon]

actually this is a really fucking tonedeaf thing to ask idk why i did

[visual stream]

Neither

[spare talon]

then how does it relate to you

[visual stream]

LOL it happens

[ornate bone]

boutta whack a mf

[spare talon]

registered vex offender

[visual stream]

It relates to my morality and that is enough for me

[ornate bone]

he was the defender

kindred soul

[visual stream]

Anyway I hope if impact blessings aren't removed then they're buffed, so you can fling crushers around with hammer

[ornate bone]

If you raise your impact high enough it should Helldivers ragdoll the enemies

[north sedge]

just play crusher if you wanna do that

[ornate bone]

Normalize throwing crushers off the map

[spare talon]

me when my double impact dclaw parry staggers the plague ogryns backward and makes him fall off the map

[misty nova]

Hmm, yeah stack all impact blessings and talents

I should do that

[visual stream]

Say sike

[visual stream]

But it would be funny if the hammer's 40 dead blessings were slightly less dead

[north sedge]

[jaunty lava]

Guys what do you do agaisnt bosses when speedrunning with a knife? Most of my runs end there and i'm trying to learn

[visual stream]

First question, what setting are you speedrunning in

[jaunty lava]

Damnation and heresy for now

[visual stream]

I mean in terms of your team

[jaunty lava]

I tried a while ago with a friend, but i'm looking to try alone because he hasn't played in so long

[visual stream]

Ah okay, was just making sure it wasn't pubs

Well PAs are really good for fast damage if you really need to kill them, but they should be relatively avoidable

[jaunty lava]

How dare you
Of course xD i hate those players i'm not looking to do that

We were trying to do the zealot penance at the same time. It went as expected

[jaunty lava]

So you can use elevators with a boss spawned?

[visual stream]

Uhh you should be able to yeah, as long as no enemies are onboard the elevator

They'll just spawn on the other side of the elevator for you to evade even more

[zinc talon]

six

damage taken

[jaunty lava]

As a duo it was hard to both get in without them following i suppose, that makes a lot of sense

[visual stream]

You both have stealth, right?

Can save stealth for when you get on elevator and both stealth at the same time to get in

[jaunty lava]

We tried once one evening, our coordination and knowledge was lacking lmao

[fleet zealot]

Sometimes enemies and even packs will spawn in an elevator/airlock (stationary ones not directly after a mid event)

[visual stream]

Really? I never see more than a couple of bruisers

Then again I don't really stealth speedrun

[fleet zealot]

Had a speedrunner bolt for the airlock in the torrent assassination mission and got mauled by crushers

[visual stream]

LOL

as opposed to crushed by maulers?

[fleet zealot]

Anyways stagger is always going to suck and buffing it will just make it more annoying and harder to land consecutive hits and annoy your team

[visual stream]

True, I was thinking rule of funny than actual desire

[fleet zealot]

While such good damage blessings exist and unlike vt2 where every character basically had skullcrusher by default, 20 to 60% depending on choice

[visual stream]

I just want most of those blessings removed xd

[fleet zealot]

Idk who took the 7.5% power blessing over smiter or mainstay or assassin etc etc

[frosty flint]

dual weilding?

[fleet zealot]

Huh

[chrome fractal]

best blessings for flamer?

[zinc talon]

blaze away and reload speed on empty canister work well together

but it can tempt you to waste fuel

[chrome fractal]

need to kill things

[fleet zealot]

Domestication

[frosty flint]

a friend got it bugged he doesn´t have a gun

[spare talon]

inspiring barrage can also work instead of quickflame

[fleet zealot]

Blaze away and a free slot just don’t use overpressure it’s bugged, then flak, maniac, elites, unyielding all good

[fleet zealot]

Sounds like a weird bug cause you can’t equip and evi and cleaver on the same class xd

[fleet zealot]

Oh and get high cloud radius and at least 76% burn for your mod stats, ammo is good but damage and mobility don’t matter

[spare talon]

if you could dual weild melee weapons on zealot

itd be so fucking over

knife and crusher

throwing knives

[fleet zealot]

Bold of you to think it wouldn’t just be like vt2

[chrome fractal]

overpressure is broke?

[frosty flint]

he looks like this on game

holding air

[spare talon]

i mean the difference is that in this case zealot can have 2 weapons that excel at different things, covering different bases
while still having a ranged option with throwing knives

so you literally have the perfect build

[spare talon]

it only applies to the hit that applies the burn, and not the burn itself, which is where all of your damage comes from

[hard nexus]

meow

[spare talon]

so its like
2% more damage in the end

[chrome fractal]

how do you know that isnt by design

[hard nexus]

1:30 of ads on amazon prime

despair

i just wanna watch house md in peace

[spare talon]

because blaze away is also a power bonus that applies globally on the flamer, which means it works on the burn

which is why its BiS on flamer

its simply the fact that one buffs the burn and the other doesnt

[modern lintel]

Duel shock mauls would be gamer

[chrome fractal]

what about showstopper 4

[paper harness]

It isn’t

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-house-gif-11916099077674228393

fr?

[paper harness]

: )

[median steeple]

Wrong message

ending myself

[spare talon]

showstopper kinda just sucks when applied in game

[modern lintel]

Cant wait to finally have the heralded blaze away 4

[chrome fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/gamba-xqc-gambling-addict-777-gif-25803752

[spare talon]

it deals like 100 or 200ish damage i think
which isnt enough to kill anything

[median steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/house-dancing-in-front-of-deaf-patients-room-fight-the-power-house-in-shades-hugh-laurie-house-md-gif-20407298

[spare talon]

and it also only works on elite kills

[paper harness]

I have had comically op moments with it

[spare talon]

which by the time an elite dies, so is everything else around it 90% of the time

[paper harness]

Entire screen of carapace

Gone

[chrome fractal]

bro

i can get 20% chance on elite kill

[modern lintel]

Its only rlly worth for hordes of maulers or ragers to stagger them

[north sedge]

it's a tiny amount of dmg in a very small aoe

[spare talon]

but at that point
inspiring barrage will help restore any rager chip damage as youre backpedaling and nuking them
and maulers are slow and easy to dodge lmao

yes

we are fucking nerds

[modern lintel]

Id even say anything class related besides ogryn could be reliably asked here aswell

[hard nexus]

honestly zealot chat can give u great advice for any build, except ogryn builds

but the chats are all pretty good now

for information

[modern lintel]

🐟

[ornate bone]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1158835247685836853 here too

[spare talon]

if you talk a bit more then youll automatically get image perms
also weapons dont matter really till lvl 30 as thats when your bracket for weapon stats reach the highest possible, at 300-380

[hard nexus]

(i rarely see people here talking about ogryn builds)

[spare talon]

people still use that??

[hard nexus]

ehhh, those builds are inconsistently good, some are decent but

[paper harness]

Are any of them good

[ornate bone]

maybe??? it exists though

[hard nexus]

max weapon rating

[ornate bone]

no clue

[spare talon]

the base stats of the weapon

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/african-kid-omg-crying-gif-8702984

[hard nexus]

dw you’ll have so many more weapons to brick

[ornate bone]

you can yoink the blessings off of them to put on better weapons using hadron

[hard nexus]

is that ur art in ur banner

[paper harness]

I have bricked thousands

[hard nexus]

boner joke

[chrome fractal]

best eviscerator folks?

[ornate bone]

commence the mass bricking

[paper harness]

15

[spare talon]

on the bright side, the lower the weapon stats, the less it costs to upgrade
so you didnt lose as much as you could have

[paper harness]

Anyone who says 2 is wrong

[hard nexus]

ohhh

that’s awesome

it looks really cool

:3

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-ballin-basketball-gif-19387821

[hard nexus]

what was it?

[modern lintel]

Holy shit obama balling

[spare talon]

oballing

which mk of the evis

[hard nexus]

which one? there’s 2

one with only horizontal lights and overhead heavies

[spare talon]

the mk2 or the mk15

[hard nexus]

and then the other with an overhead light initially

[fleet zealot]

SM2 has your astartes legion class locked in pvp it’s so over

[hard nexus]

that one is bad at horde clear, counterintuitively

it has a damage cap

[fleet zealot]

Alpha legion fan? Forced to play sniper

[spare talon]

of 4 targets per swing

[hard nexus]

so it will only damage 4 enemies per swing

[hard nexus]

u beat me too it

[spare talon]

im just better

yes

[modern lintel]

Eventually youll just evolve into knife user might as well start early

[hard nexus]

yarp, it’s why savage sweep is bad on it

[spare talon]

savage sweep is actually quite useless on it

[remote lark]

i'm going to hang myself 🔥

[hard nexus]

rampage and i think shred are what u want

[hard nexus]

lmfao

have u tried the other evis?

[spare talon]

at least you know now so you can hang yourself whilst being more knowledgable

[remote lark]

I used to use it but i swapped to the XV cause i liked its moveset for chaff clear way more

is four targets a hit... bad?
I've had 0 issues clearing level 4 missions thus far, i haven't really tried 5's yet

[fleet zealot]

Cleave stat from blessings only boosts the hitmass you can swing through, it doesn’t change your damage in anyway unless your weapon gets stuck before it can deal it’s full damage which for 4 targets you dont need cleave for

[hard nexus]

yeah, damaging only 4 enemies is really minimal compared to hordes you’ll usually fight

[spare talon]

the mk15 isnt bad at it, the other just clears em out faster
the mk15's real shtick is its heavy overheads dealing huge damage when revved, so its a more single target focused weapon

[fleet zealot]

Stuff like chswords, dclaws and mk2 evi likes savage sweep or wrath depending on mark

[hard nexus]

the stagger is nice though

[remote lark]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/ix6N68rpQxp9usDSA/d1337fXgtdga?invite=cr-MSxsV2gsMjE0MTU3ODUwLA

[hard nexus]

(u can one shot crushers with it)

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/ix6N68rpQxp9usDSA/d1337fXgtdga?invite=cr-MSxsV2gsMjE0MTU3ODUwLA

[spare talon]

yeah having a single target weapon that can also control hordes definitely not a bad weapon

[hard nexus]

too lazy to open medal

[remote lark]

ty

[spare talon]

against the fat fucks like these, revving it first will be much more beneficial

[hard nexus]

bind ur jump to alt and dodge to space, it’ll stop u from accidentally jumping like that

[remote lark]

as if i wasn't just panic mashing space bar 😭

thats a good idea though

[hard nexus]

lmfao

[hard nexus]

yeah it’s great advice for everyone in this game tbh

it helps sooo much

[spare talon]

way more damage, but you gotta be aware of your surrounding cuz it takes a bit longer and keeps you in place
but if need be you can also dodge out of it, losing the big part of the damage but also not getting fucking clapped

[spare talon]

i have jump kept to space and dodge on shift

[fleet zealot]

I forgot to save the exhillious pox 100 chart

Or was it pox 50

[spare talon]

cuz sprint and dodge never overlap

[hard nexus]

okay well ur weird so it doesn’t count

[spare talon]

IM NOT WEIRD

[misty nova]

mentions how it can one shot
doesn't show it
Peak Cinema

[hard nexus]

you ARE

[remote lark]

can you dodge forward then..?

[spare talon]

shift always is the movement key

[spare talon]

you cannot

[hard nexus]

nope

[clear knot]

how long it take DH to go away

[hard nexus]

that’s why they don’t overlap

[spare talon]

which is why it doesnt overlap

[remote lark]

that's my clip he just posted it for embed

[hard nexus]

until it kills someone, or someone dies

[spare talon]

sharing the same braincell

[hard nexus]

lmfao

we r gonna merge into one being one day

sry it’s just gonna happen

[misty nova]

Peak Cinema

[hard nexus]

LMFAO

[spare talon]

i also like it cuz when you dodge slide, its the same keybinds as sliding forward

[remote lark]

how troll is it to take loner by the way

i've been told off for it twice

[spare talon]

not very if you dont play like an asshole

[hard nexus]

it’s good if ur good

[remote lark]

i play like an asshole

[hard nexus]

well

[remote lark]

or so i've been told

[hard nexus]

it’s fine if ur good

[spare talon]

its mostly used for point economy

[fleet zealot]

It’s not high value

[hard nexus]

yeah

[fleet zealot]

It’s for pathing

[hard nexus]

exactly this

if ur running stealth then taking loner is fine

[spare talon]

but it does have more value than people it credit

[fleet zealot]

But don’t take shroudfield with a chain weapon

[remote lark]

i take the relic

[fleet zealot]

It is bugged badly

[spare talon]

cuz it keeps the base zealot aura of 7.5% toughness TDR

[remote lark]

i find the relic super useful if i get jumped by a bunch of dogs or heavy enemies

[spare talon]

at the same time

[hard nexus]

what keystone are you running?

i couldn’t tell

[remote lark]

none

[fleet zealot]

Relic is such a personal dps loss i dont bother tbh

[hard nexus]

oh lmfao

[remote lark]

i dumped points into some useful perks higher up

[spare talon]

theyre not done leveling they said

[fleet zealot]

Why

[remote lark]

the keystones didn't seem too great

im' also level 27

[hard nexus]

it’s a good oh shit button for newer players though

[spare talon]

they are very good

[fleet zealot]

All zealots keystones are great

[remote lark]

but are they better than stuff like Until Death?

[fleet zealot]

Yea but fury of the faithful is such a great allrounder ability

[spare talon]

you can have both?

[remote lark]

not at my level i can't

xx

[fleet zealot]

You should learn what’s valuable to pick vs what is skippable

[modern lintel]

Bets in now will the lime cucumber gatorade be mid

[hard nexus]

they are really good, inexorable judgement (momentum) is just a constant free damage, blazing piety lets u use ur abilities much more often, and martyrdom lets u become super tanky and deal a ton of damage

[fleet zealot]

You are only 3 points short you can get any keystone

[spare talon]

ok well that wont be the case in like 4-5 games from now

[hard nexus]

quick cole power level them

[fleet zealot]

I wouldn’t recommend blazing with evisc anymore tbh

[spare talon]

https://tenor.com/view/tuh-buh-guh-cuh-what-gif-9750912507529527670

[hard nexus]

yah

[fleet zealot]

After the change

[hard nexus]

oooo u wanna get on daarrrkkktiiiiddeeee

https://tenor.com/view/hypnosis-gif-20354324

[remote lark]

also why did someone reccomend knife

[fleet zealot]

IJ is the best allrounder keystone and is right below sustained assault, one of our best talents

[hard nexus]

it’s really strong

[remote lark]

i can't fathom wanting to hit enemies with a piece of paper

[fleet zealot]

Knife is an interesting weapon to say the least

[remote lark]

what??

[hard nexus]

great mobility, great single target, and an acceptable horde clear

[modern lintel]

It was kind of mid

[lusty oar]

mods, post the beast of nurgle knife buttfuck

[fleet zealot]

Knife probably has the biggest damage gap depending on your build and using it properly

[misty nova]

Yeah, if you know how to use it + being properly built

[hard nexus]

yeah, you can obliterate crushers with it, the mobility lets u get out of really sticky situations

[spare talon]

its very good
lots of people use it terribly which is why it has a bad reputation
also it lets people get away with lots of really stupid shit so they never learn how to play the game properly

[remote lark]

what exactly does 'mobility' do again

[hard nexus]

dodges, move speed

[modern lintel]

Keeps you from being mogged by poxwalkers

[hard nexus]

so u have more dodges, longer dodges, and can run faster

[fleet zealot]

I had that before tasted like what i’d imagine used spa water would taste like

[hard nexus]

was this a heresy clip

[modern lintel]

Its def smells worse then it tastes

[spare talon]

i think so? idk

[remote lark]

any opinions on my choice of using the revolver with the evis for specialists
i haven't found anything better so far

[spare talon]

maybe damnation

[spare talon]

no complaints

[hard nexus]

i think it was from the health bar

[fleet zealot]

Revolver is meta but there are other options

[rocky nacelle]

spagheti

and

meatbal

delicious

also hi

[spare talon]

revolver fucks in almost every zealot build

[modern lintel]

Singular meat ball

[hard nexus]

it’s good, what blessings do u have on ur revolver? meta is surgical hand cannon

[fleet zealot]

Ciag, agri shotgun, agri brauto

[rocky nacelle]

i have multiple singular meatballs

in my spaghet

[modern lintel]

Preposterous

[rocky nacelle]

outlandish even

[hard nexus]

i don’t think i’ve used a gun that can ADS on zealot in like 6 months lmfao

[remote lark]

really shit ones, i have sustained fire and trickshooter - but i DID roll a surgical on a revolver that i can scrap the other night

although i'm going to have to level a new revolver too :^) they're locked

i'm not sure what locks blessings

[spare talon]

any tier of surgical works cuz they all can force crits, its just a matter of how fast they can between tiers

[hard nexus]

yeah, ideally you want unarmored and i think maniac?? cole can correct me