#zealot-class
rocky nacelle
stone fern
id take it if i had the points
rocky nacelle
speak this nonsense in your soyker chat
uses the CDR for HP talent
immediately brushed aside
placid fiber
Clad... the degenerate heresy you are speaking makes the heresy I put together for a martyrdom mk 6 knife build look like it isn't heresy... @stone fern
merry spade
Momentum is, Unfortunately, not negotiable because my best Ironhelm (a 376 with 3 stats at 80 and defense as the dump stat being 59) has momentum 4 being the stat I am stuck with... at least until itemization lets me swap that out.
placid fiber
it gives you cdr when you need it the most
1% cdr per 1% of base health lost
fleet zealot
i wouldn't take punishment
stone fern
1% cdr per 1% of base health lost
its ok
rocky nacelle
me neither but i dont feel like re allocating any points
fleet zealot
it's really not that good anymore tbh unless you specifically know a stagger BP you wanna hit
lusty oar
puwunishment
fleet zealot
it's objectively the worst cdr option in the game
rocky nacelle
like rn
stone fern
none of what im saying matters now since after the chastise change i cant play hammer anymore
placid fiber
its ok
You are spending health on a build that isn't a health build which can make more use of the talent on... and even with that bonus benefit it is still ass
stone fern
>laughs in crucis still 1 shotting crushers
ye it still does
ironhelm needs carapace
and like 4 wounds
it only needed 4 wounds before the change
rocky nacelle
ok better
I dont need purge the unclean cause I have 25% unyield on hammer
also I am a big fan of unyielding in general (usually even if I have unyielding on my weapon I still run it)
placid fiber
it only needed 4 wounds before the change
which couldn't it also be done WITH sustained assault which is +25% damage... with 5% node above it making it +30% melee damage...?
fleet zealot
I dont need purge the unclean cause I have 25% unyield on hammer
they stack
stone fern
which couldn't it also be done WITH sustained assault which is +25% damage... wi...
yes
rocky nacelle
thats why I like both
stone fern
it couldnt be
stone fern
if i charge a crusher pace with 3 stacks of thrust chastise and special+4 wounds of damage i cant kill it
rocky nacelle
just frees up some points
stone fern
its so over
merry spade
I dont need purge the unclean cause I have 25% unyield on hammer
I still run purge the unclean with my unyielding because I was the type of guy to jump-scare an under-leveled team by triggering the Demonhost, only to solo-kill it in seconds.
placid fiber
Like... +25% melee damage on EVERY melee weapon is still +25% MELEE DAMAGE
rocky nacelle
I still run purge the unclean with my unyielding because I was the type of guy t...
try that one I just posted recently
i actually think its better than what I was running b4 cause I actually have SA in this re-iteration
stone fern
Like... +25% melee damage on EVERY melee weapon is still +25% MELEE DAMAGE
its too conditional
i wouldnt have it up by the time im dealing with crushers
placid fiber
its too conditional
You mean hitting enemies with your melee is too conditional?
stone fern
unlike distain
stone fern
my guy
rocky nacelle
disdain is every 2nd hit
stone fern
distaine sticks
rocky nacelle
WE KNOW DISDAIN SUCKS
placid fiber
disdain is every 2nd hit
^
stone fern
i have to to do more than one attack
rocky nacelle
whatever clad you got it
stone fern
if my first attack does 3000 or 2600 damage it doesnt matter if i have to charge a second heavy attack
placid fiber
Disdain is every other hit
stone fern
keep running martyr's purpose
its ok
rocky nacelle
Uh... what's the debate about disdain going on?
sustained assault is better than disdain because disdain procs on every 2nd hit
SA is just hitting enemies
placid fiber
I mean if you aren't willing to listen to the advice of the people WHO KNOW HOW TO BUILD AND USE THE WEAPON then you have no right to say it sucks
when YOU WON'T LISTEN to them
left iron
Iirc you also refuse to aim for the head, and we've gone through this debate ages ago
stone fern
Iirc you also refuse to aim for the head, and we've gone through this debate age...
chastise locks my aim
i cant aim mid charge
stone fern
ok
merry spade
Disdain is every other hit
really? I was not aware of that... I kinda just grabbed disdain because i needed it to get the next talent, and it felt like it was letting me hit the 1-tap breakpoints easier after i swung my hammer through a group of poxwalkers.
stone fern
what other than groaners for hammer flak?
placid fiber
i cant aim mid charge
and...? You have like 4 seconds after the charge to hit them...
rocky nacelle
if I didnt have groaners
stone fern
i dont wanna aim after
rocky nacelle
id be running flak/unyld
stone fern
i wanna aim during
its less fun
switching out good balance for martyer tho
DONT AT ME
DO NOT AT ME
rocky nacelle
clad
left iron
And it is barely an issue, unless you're preswinging before you collide, which is just not a great idea in general considering how volatile the servers can be
placid fiber
switching out good balance for martyer tho
I mean... my build allows me to take a +15 toughness node, so if you want health cdr instead of that that's on you. I didn't link it tho
stone fern
id be running flak/unyld
i have an unyielding flak thammer its fine
stone fern
I mean... my build allows me to take a +15 toughness node, so if you want health...
ill copy it word for word
except good balance
placid fiber
what even is good balance? lol
rocky nacelle
stone fern
next to twbs
placid fiber
I don't take good balance on a thammer build or my marty build
rocky nacelle
I took it cause grievous wounds is useless
stone fern
mb i thought this was you
placid fiber
I'll show you mine, tho, since I use it for my thammer or rashad(or chain-axe or w/e melee I use)
stone fern
okie
rocky nacelle
cause I dont see a point for grievous wounds
with TH
(also I hear you dont aim for heads anyway)
stone fern
I'll show you mine, tho, since I use it for my thammer or rashad(or chain-axe or...
i have it on rashad because it makes sense there
placid fiber
I mean if you won't aim after chastise again: That's on you, not the weapon
stone fern
i didnt need to aim before the change
id much ratehr run curcis since it still one shots crushers
placid fiber
i have it on rashad because it makes sense there
rocky nacelle
I don't take good balance on a thammer build or my marty build
its just being a DR fiend
thats literally all it is
good balance is really good at that
placid fiber
@stone fern That's my curios with it
stone fern
<@244173531129053194> That's my curios with it
i dont have any toughness curios for zealot
its all wounds and stamina
stone fern
i do two wounds+stamina
rocky nacelle
aye thats good too
merry spade
Theoretical Talent selection from someone who doesn't play stealth-knife Zealot, but wants to get the stealth-kills and Loner penance out of the way very quickly.
placid fiber
its all wounds and stamina
You have no toughness curios on the character who probably has the best ways to work with toughness curios...? Again, that's on you lol
rocky nacelle
ironhelm push attack is good
stone fern
You have no toughness curios on the character who probably has the best ways to ...
you dont need toughness curios on marty
placid fiber
You don't always need to run marty...?
stone fern
yes i do
placid fiber
It's a preference thing since it works better for me and the way I play
the 1 toughness curio I mean
stone fern
all wound curios from brunts come into the store unbricked
rocky nacelle
Theoretical Talent selection from someone who doesn't play stealth-knife Zealot,...
slight tweaks to the stealth build, heres mine
stone fern
im not gonna play BP or momentum until they change crafting
merry spade
You have no toughness curios on the character who probably has the best ways to ...
I would argue Veteran's Shout makes them a good contender for the "best able to use toughness curios" spot
placid fiber
the 1 toughness curio I mean
this is my hp and toughness on my marty build lol
stone fern
what ranged btw>?
rocky nacelle
on my THammer?
im using double barrel on my FOF one
and zarona on my shroudfield one
stone fern
i have 150 toughness and 251hp
placid fiber
what ranged btw>?
Specifically for me, due to it helping with my playstyle and my melee being able to kill everything already, I use my autopistol. However I DO NOT recommend the autopistol, it just fits me and my playstyle like a glove
stone fern
Specifically for me, due to it helping with my playstyle and my melee being able...
i dont even have one tbh
ill just do brauto
placid fiber
i dont even have one tbh
This right here + my marty build lets me get away with so much goddamn sketchy bs lol
rocky nacelle
ok im finally doing my psykhanium knife stagger testing, and finding a purpose for evisc PA(there probably wont be one)
@merry spade lmk if those builds i sent do dogshit or not
merry spade
slight tweaks to the stealth build, heres mine
The knife I rolled has tier 4 of the "bleed stacks on crit" blessing, which I cant remove, and my other blessing is uncanny 4, which I added on. would that still be usable?
placid fiber
This right here + my marty build lets me get away with so much goddamn sketchy b...
It's a full toughness bar regenerated in just a bit under 1 mag
rocky nacelle
The knife I rolled has tier 4 of the "bleed stacks on crit" blessing, which I ca...
id recommend running piety (bottom left) keystone then
since flesh tearer would synergize well with piety's crit and scourge's crit as well
and crit CDR
in the bottom left keystone tree
placid fiber
The knife I rolled has tier 4 of the "bleed stacks on crit" blessing, which I ca...
Uncanny lets the knife kill crushers better than my Rashad
merry spade
but its not what you want ideally
The knife was a 377, mobility was the dump-stat, everything else is 77% or above... hence why I say it's "The best knife I've got"
placid fiber
this is your fault <@280294444123553792>
Oh yes, because obviously you failing has to do with my build and nothing to do with your skillset with the weapons you brought...
rocky nacelle
i was talking about the blessings
stone fern
Oh yes, because obviously you failing has to do with my build and nothing to do ...
yes
rocky nacelle
and yea mob is usually the dump stat
just inspect it to make sure you keep 5 dodges
@frosty herald https://fixupx.com/QuirklessStoner/status/1826369806096052465?t=Mm0E-7ejOCkE2fMBANy9xQ&s=19
stone fern
btw insta fail as in i didnt even get to play @placid fiber
placid fiber
yes
Just like how it also has everything to do with my build, when you refuse to aim after chastise stops <.<
placid fiber
btw insta fail as in i didnt even get to play <@280294444123553792>
I know, I was joking around a lil :3
frosty herald
Its so badass
placid fiber
Now if you'll excuse me, I got a piece of candy I wanna try out on my psyker >:3
It was all I could afford for a weapon buy and the stats were not completely ass lol
merry spade
Uncanny lets the knife kill crushers better than my Rashad
I tried it out in meatgrinder... stealth-backstab on damnation leaves it low enough that I can just light attack it once and walk away to let it bleed to death.
placid fiber
Now if you'll excuse me, I got a piece of candy I wanna try out on my psyker >:3
well a heavy 2 on it does 1400 damage to a crusher with only uncanny fully up
rocky nacelle
ok
I did
PA
attack
and then chastise
only half a crushers HP
even in the head
what is the purpose of this thing again
placid fiber
I mean... that's like asking the purpose of the push attack on the force swords from a damage dealing perspective...
it does 8 damage with 100% rending from my deimos
rocky nacelle
uh you do understand push attack on force swords
can knock down ogryns
right?
PA is the best on force swords
lmfao
stone fern
now anecdotally to try my build with a new team in a new mission
rocky nacelle
i just hate that mk15 push follow up sucks
I guess its ok for "range" but even then you could just H1
placid fiber
PA is the best on force swords
That's why I added "from a damaging dealing perspective" to that line
placid fiber
oh lol the push attack also causes peril build up if you hit something on the force sword, I didn't know that
rocky nacelle
a singular use
for mk15 push attack
lmfao
ok I actually like that
not bad
only use for it tho
if you PA a pouncing dog it's guaranteed dead cause the rev will fully be stuck to it even while its in the air
yea you can just do it with H1
but thats cool
also making a dog eat chainsaw is fucking sick
placid fiber
if you PA a pouncing dog **it's guaranteed** dead cause the rev will fully be st...
Okay, what about gunners? I'm interested in what else you can 1 shot with at revved push attack lol
rocky nacelle
when I mean revved
I mean just the PA itself
im not actually hitting special
before PA'ing
on the dog pounce
rocky nacelle
you 1 shot them anyway
if ur deimos has maniac/ or uncanny stacks
and u just poke their tiny head
rocky nacelle
Okay, what about gunners? I'm interested in what else you can 1 shot with at rev...
probably 1 shots them as well, especially if its actually revved
but rather just go for a weakspot H1 hit
placid fiber
probably 1 shots them as well, especially if its actually revved
Know what's sad? the heavy 1 deals less damage to headshots than the light 1 on the deimos... I mean sure the light 1 is a stab and the heavy 1 is a diagonal slash... but still...
except to crushers, respectively
rocky nacelle
well thats just the way the attack breakdowns work
since L1 is a strikedown or assassin iirc
big single target
H1 is good for horde clear
I actually really like L1 being a poke initiator
keeps you safe and starts off with good dmg
if it doesnt kill them
placid fiber
I've... never used the heavy 1 for horde clear on the deimos
I what works for me: light attack spam
placid fiber
It is a almost vertical diagonal slash...?
This is more or less the attack's profile /
placid fiber
Only it's a bit less horizontal than that
I know that light attack spam clears hordes pretty damn well ironically
placid fiber
You mean slaughterer, right? lol
I've never had uncanny on a force sword until today
I didn't know force swords even got uncanny until today either >.>
Also uncanny does nothing against unarmored, I can't remember about infested
iirc it is only maniac, unyielding, flak, and carapace...
Here we go
compact knot
rocky nacelle
uncanny just enhances that
placid fiber
deimos shits on weakspots
and uncanny is +rending...?
placid fiber
i guess i dont care to argue semantics or whatever
It isn't adding weakspot damage like bromentum does, just rending on weakspot hit...
placid fiber
dont care
Nice, but, even with that the only thing buffing damage to hordes(specifically groaners and poxwalkers) is slaughterer since rending doesn't affect infested or unarmored enemies
placid fiber
uncanny just enhances that
Then why try to add this for us discussing horde clear...?
I mean yeah it enhances damage against the dreg melee guys, but, otherwise it isn't adding damage to headshots x.x
rocky nacelle
well i didnt really care about horde clear or anything
kinda just got brought up
so yea you're right there
not a purpose for me to bring up uncanny
placid fiber
Sorry I was just confused on why you brought that up as part of it, so I went full focus mode on it >.<'
It helps 2 shot muties, with 2 light 1's though
novel bobcat
I just joined a really confusing lobby
The team was in a servo skull section, but the skull was nowhere to be found
One of the team members was writing literal nonsense and they all had no intention of progressing
It didn't even seem like they were penance hunting because there were literally ZERO enemies to be found anywhere
left iron
placid fiber
well i didnt really care about horde clear or anything
Asside from that: Yeah, even with my 62% first target deimos the light 1 does 1 tap poxwalkers and groaners
novel bobcat
Uuh
Something something Magnus did nothing wrong
rocky nacelle
<:peepoHappy:1182750608126648421>
sly marbo
zealous basin
wot da
rocky nacelle
oh wait thats cole apparently now
zealous basin
who
zealous basin
why
rocky nacelle
Asside from that: Yeah, even with my 62% first target deimos the light 1 does 1 ...
heres a real soyker melee
placid fiber
Now is that the mk 3 or the mk 6? lol
rocky nacelle
you can see the difference between a mk3 and a mk6
lmao
but yes the first one is a mk3
placid fiber
I forgot there was a difference there for a second >.>
placid fiber
Like I said I forgot they look different, I saw knife >.<'
placid fiber
they look entirely diff?
Gimme a break, I'm an adhd reject... my memory is spotty at best... <_<
zealous basin
me? yeah
placid fiber
Just like how you brought up uncanny for horde clear, I couldn't tell the mk 3 and 6 looked different XD
zealous basin
thats why im here man
zealous basin
are u new here man
rocky nacelle
nope but later
zealous basin
bro is not a knower
placid fiber
I know you've been here since the hills were still unformed, lol
placid fiber
i wrote the culture manifesto
I just realized you and I joined this discord server on the same day lol
zealous basin
that was right about closed beta test 2 right
rocky nacelle
i missed the beta got it when it "fully released"
placid fiber
All my runs were at least uprising though
rocky nacelle
placid fiber
I think I might have gotten zealot to level 5
merry flume
i love video games
lusty oar
not allowed
placid fiber
Time flies
frosty herald
i saw that xev
paper harness
im a finesse whore on gunker
Leave, soyker scum
lusty oar
dsa
fleet zealot
median steeple
Eep
frosty herald
cant wait to have to wait for it to be a rainy night during a thunderstorm to capture a thunderbeetle or smt in wilds
rocky nacelle
cant wait to have to wait for it to be a rainy night during a thunderstorm to ca...
rare great thunder beetle or thunderbugs in your room
paper harness
I’m in dt, Lola is playing some discord game
frosty herald
hmmm this might be used for layered armor?
rocky nacelle
oh farm merge valley
basically farmville
but discord
my friends have been on that recently too
fleet zealot
novel bobcat
Cute thing
fleet zealot
ferret don't hav gills
frosty herald
Deep sea horror starfox
rocky nacelle
yup its peak
zealous basin
damn that was a good nap
north sedge
he was shocked when we told him how tacos are supposed to be eaten
placid fiber
he was shocked when we told him how tacos are supposed to be eaten
Somehow... this fails to surprise me...
obtuse solstice
how could I slot in frenzy? is it even worth it?
placid fiber
What weapons do you have?
rocky nacelle
im assuming frenzy is the 10% atk spd
that said i dont know what weapon this build is for
lmfao
placid fiber
I was guessing that, but, I was also logging in to check lol
median steeple
yea the knowing the weapon would help a lot
obtuse solstice
pretty much just rashad / heavy sword
placid fiber
Rashad could use it, heavy sword you can live without it(if it is the attack speed one)
obtuse solstice
yeah it is
obtuse solstice
mainly revolver
placid fiber
If it is a rashad I mean... personally I wouldn't sacrifice the 10% attack speed for duellist, but, that's just me
rocky nacelle
alright revo is replacing the tknives
yea seems fine enough
I like immo but tknives are just goated
placid fiber
I would also be running the far right tree, though, since I forget about nades
rocky nacelle
If it is a rashad I mean... personally I wouldn't sacrifice the 10% attack speed...
you are on crack if you dont have duellist in every single zealot build
js
median steeple
imo if you have a revolver you dont need knives but that's just me, I know a lot of people love running both
rocky nacelle
thats basically what I was getting at
obtuse solstice
I was considering that.. drop restoring faith, go knives and grab frenzy?
placid fiber
I was considering that.. drop restoring faith, go knives and grab frenzy?
That would work
rocky nacelle
I was considering that.. drop restoring faith, go knives and grab frenzy?
post your weapons first
lmao
placid fiber
I'm not a big fan of restoring faith, because health damage should be avoided in the 1st place... I only get holy rev because of the 15 toughness node below it and it covers when until death gets popped
obtuse solstice
rashad and revolver as I said 
median steeple
post da blessings !
rocky nacelle
yea ok cause posting means just telling us what it is
lmfao
blessings and perks exist
obtuse solstice
placid fiber
Nice weapons
broken walrus
Thoughts on Blazing Piety vs Iexorable judgement on Rashad?
obtuse solstice
good balance worth it over 15 tough?
placid fiber
I just noticed something, which I find quite amusing: The rashad can get a positive dodge distance bonus, where-as the autopistol can't
north sedge
piety is the worst of the 3 for rashad
rocky nacelle
Thoughts on Blazing Piety vs Iexorable judgement on Rashad?
i dont think rashad is a critter
just go IJ
or marty for having the strongest 1 handed axe in atoma
placid fiber
Thoughts on Blazing Piety vs Iexorable judgement on Rashad?
I would say worse than a heavy sword with it
rocky nacelle
he didnt bring up HSword
placid fiber
and a heavy sword isn't even one of my top picks for piety
rocky nacelle
you can just say rashad sucks with crit
placid fiber
Let me finish, God
placid fiber
I'm joking, lol
broken walrus
ok, run fast and hit stuff, got it
placid fiber
dont like how you explain things? I guess
Well, I am stupid so... >_>'
rocky nacelle
placid fiber
Wait... the brauto has a higher dodge speed than the autopistol, despite having a lower dodge distance, count, and sprint speed lol
I don't even know what dodge speed means, tbh. If I ever did know, I forgot
grizzled aspen
Probably the time between the start and end of a dodge.
Higher dodge speed = more dodges, faster.
placid fiber
Idk, that's kinda sus if that's what it does that the agripinaa has faster dodges than the autopistol... despite having half(with 51%+ mobility on the autopistol) lol
grizzled aspen
Or it may be like golf!
Dodge speed could mean the time in ms for your dodge to end.
So lower could be better.
rocky nacelle
wheres the number nerds when you need them
placid fiber
@north sedge You got any idea about dodge speed? lol
spare talon
Higher dodge speed = more dodges, faster.
Just like me on caffeine
Allows me to be stupid faster
placid fiber
Just like me on caffeine
Allows me to be stupid faster
So does it make dodge count recover faster...?
spare talon
So does it make dodge count recover faster...?
That is a seperate stat
spare talon
So does it make dodge count recover faster...?
placid fiber
Yeah I knew momentum made them recover faster x.x
What does dodge speed even do, though?
lusty oar
it 1.005 ofc
placid fiber
it 1.005 ofc
I see...
spare talon
spare talon
What does dodge speed even do, though?
It is how fast you go from the start point to end point of your dodge
placid fiber
Ah
placid fiber
It is how fast you go from the start point to end point of your dodge
... then why tf does the autopistol have a lower dodge speed than the brautos?!
copper hawk
Obese megaladon moment
placid fiber
Even the goddamn kantrael xii lasgun has a higher dodge speed... is that to compensate for the shorter dodges? By making their whole dodge faster as well? lol
spare talon
... ~~then why tf does the autopistol have a lower dodge speed than the brautos~...
If it's like 25% slower but you're moving 2x as far
You're not gonna notice
zealous basin
i just did
spare talon
The autopistol is gonna feel faster cuz you're still moving faster
placid fiber
If it's like 25% slower but you're moving 2x as far
So it's more or less to compensate for lower dodge distances, by making the dodge time lower...?
lusty oar
im bored man
there’s a recipe for nachos a few messages above that you can try
zealous basin
im at work man i cajt
spare talon
A much longer distance traveled in only a slightly longer amount of time
placid fiber
A much longer distance traveled in only a slightly longer amount of time
Man... that makes me remember when the force swords had infinite dodges... and I could dodge for my movement speed on the deimos...
acoustic dune
What
oi let me have my childhood snack
eating a crumble pack of instant noodle is a asian delicacy
placid fiber
A much longer distance traveled in only a slightly longer amount of time
So, on a side note: Due to the dodge ending sooner does that cause the timer for the dodge counts to start refreshing faster as well due to the whole dodge action being ended sooner?
paper harness
Thoughts on Blazing Piety vs Iexorable judgement on Rashad?
Momentum, always
spare talon
When I asked women what shampoo they used, they all seemed to use "how the fuck did you get in my bathroom"
acoustic dune
i dont know what fuckin asians raised you
i take great insult
royal vortex
i read this as "autism leaves" and had way more fun with the idea
rocky nacelle
no I take great insult to eating a raw ass crumble pack of ramen noodles
what are you stan?
lusty oar
i was thinking broke but that works too
acoustic dune
no **I** take great insult to eating a raw ass crumble pack of ramen noodles
are you reach or smth?
bitch its a fun snack
rocky nacelle
i was thinking broke but that works too
stan should be broke for the way he eats
💯
eats like a menace
lusty oar
it is kinda fun though
acoustic dune
stan should be broke for the way he eats
i thought it was all the soda he have
lusty oar
putting the dry noodle in a plastic bag and shaking oit up with the powder
spare talon
no **I** take great insult to eating a raw ass crumble pack of ramen noodles
I would eat raw top ramen packages on boy scout campouts
I'd sprinkle the seasoning on it too
rocky nacelle
acoustic dune
I would eat raw top ramen packages on boy scout campouts
I'd sprinkle the season...
its a classic
rocky nacelle
I would eat raw top ramen packages on boy scout campouts
I'd sprinkle the season...
you arent justifying this insane "snack" behavior
I wont stand for it
acoustic dune
here jsut in paradise is out to be a rich kid
placid fiber
Or about the same, I might have gotten lucky
rocky nacelle
no i just actually turned it into fucking ramen?
and put shit like egg or soysauce in it
or rice
acoustic dune
next youll say you never had dried squid
rocky nacelle
no ive never had dried squid
placid fiber
Nope, Somehow my revved light 1 did like 3x damage the 1st time
acoustic dune
with some sauce uptop
lusty oar
who putting all this effort into a snack
acoustic dune
no ive never had dried squid
GUH
placid fiber
Oh it was a crit
lusty oar
mmm dried squid and pepper sauce
rocky nacelle
i like takoyaki
acoustic dune
what type of asian are you
rocky nacelle
maybe i'll check the nearest asian market/store
rocky nacelle
what type of asian are you
the amerifat one
rocky nacelle
born in the us
hard nexus
i read this as "autism leaves" and had way more fun with the idea
it’s what forms when u plant me in the ground
acoustic dune
the amerifat one
and you say you are a asian
hard nexus
also
acoustic dune
truly a lie
rocky nacelle
and you say you are a asian
yes cause I couldnt change my race on class creation
royal vortex
it’s what forms when u plant me in the ground
lmao
rocky nacelle
stupid
lusty oar
i’m famous
the best micro eceleb
hard nexus
exactly
acoustic dune
haven't seen them at the world market or the asian grocery store
south east asian thing i guess
rocky nacelle
yes ur a freak
lusty oar
nah there's only one thing that determines if they're asian or not
rocky nacelle
idc
lusty oar
@rocky nacelle how many slurs for other asians do you know
rocky nacelle
idgaf if I was born and raised my whole life in an actual asian place
i'd still call u a freak
copper hawk
Ur noob
acoustic dune
idgaf if I was born and raised my whole life in an actual asian place
correction asian american
wraith cipher
are we gatekeeping asian-ness now
zealous basin
https://tenor.com/view/autism-autism-creature-yippee-tbh-creature-gif-26771176
omg hi
lusty oar
are we gatekeeping asian-ness now
yes
hard nexus
hard nexus
🦐
rocky nacelle
<@139852743358545920> how many slurs for other asians do you know
enough to bounce back and forth with my other asian friend
placid fiber
Man, it is really hard to hit the backs of maulers sometimes with a rashad's heavies >.<
Instead of their heads that is
wraith cipher
the air of racism is palpable
hard nexus
Man, it is really hard to hit the backs of maulers sometimes with a rashad's hea...
aim for their shoulders
or u can crouch
placid fiber
aim for their shoulders
I'm aiming for their legs and still getting headshots lol
hard nexus
lmfao
lusty oar
No I just suck xD
then what if you just suck them to death
rocky nacelle
oh yea does weakspot take priority over "backstabbing"
or backstabbing weakspots r real
hard nexus
or backstabbing weakspots r real
they’re real
placid fiber
Also my lights were doing just as much damage as my heavies to the shoulders were
rocky nacelle
ok i thought so
spare talon
or backstabbing weakspots r real
They're real
wraith cipher
new meta succ maulers
acoustic dune
i bet you never had deep fried noodle aswell
spare talon
Btw I finally found it out
rocky nacelle
I always made sure to try and weakspot /backstab with shroudfield
on crusher heads etc
hard nexus
ok i thought so
it’s kinda hard to notice, cuz backstab weakspots on enemies that actually need it r hard to pull off
placid fiber
Also my lights were doing just as much damage as my heavies to the shoulders wer...
That or more damage...
rocky nacelle
it’s kinda hard to notice, cuz backstab weakspots on enemies that actually need ...
yea like oggys are cringe
lusty oar
i bet you never had deep fried noodle aswell
like the crispy kind?
spare talon
Knifes inherent backstab bonus is 25% extra damage
I only just now bothered to check
placid fiber
I am so confused lol
hard nexus
yea like oggys are cringe
yah u usually have to jump
hard nexus
Knifes inherent backstab bonus is 25% extra damage
I only just now bothered to c...
okay pawesome good to know
rocky nacelle
trynna stab the back of a Pogryn or reaper/crusher skull with shroudfield up
acoustic dune
fuck wrong one
hard nexus
shrimp
lusty oar
shrimply amazing
rocky nacelle
that looks good
lusty oar
yeaaaah boi
acoustic dune
its deepfried noodle
hard nexus
trynna stab the back of a Pogryn or reaper/crusher skull with shroudfield up
@spare talon post that clip of u dealing like half health of a burgle
lusty oar
the ones i get always have imitation crab sticks too
rocky nacelle
<@142046391504601088> post that clip of u dealing like half health of a burgle
seent it like 10 times
lol
hard nexus
post it again
spare talon
okay pawesome good to know
If I crit both stabs on vet
With how much weakspot damage I'm stacking
I can stab punch stab a bulwark on a +unyielding knife
rocky nacelle
Knifes inherent backstab bonus is 25% extra damage
I only just now bothered to c...
so backstab maxxing
acoustic dune
shrimply amazing
vietnamese omelette are great aswell
rocky nacelle
is what im hearing
acoustic dune
god i miss having good food
lusty oar
vietnamese omelette are great aswell
the yellow ones with the bean sprout?
rocky nacelle
at least u can draw good
placid fiber
Can chain axe revved attacks not get backstab kills? :/
rocky nacelle
now draw good food
lusty oar
yeah draw the food and eat it
placid fiber
for the cdr I mean
acoustic dune
the yellow ones with the bean sprout?
ngl dont like beansprout myself
but ik which one you are talking about
they normally put mince meat in them
placid fiber
for the cdr I mean
See what I mean? :/
lusty oar
they normally put mince meat in them
oh those
placid fiber
See what I mean? :/
no cdr from revved backstab kills, cdr from non revved ones
acoustic dune
that and ant egg omelette
rocky nacelle
no cdr from revved backstab kills, cdr from non revved ones
iirc this was found out a while ago
for chain weapons
sucks big dick
placid fiber
Ah
acoustic dune
a aquire taste
spare talon
post it again
acoustic dune
which sadly i dont have
placid fiber
I didn't hear about it, but, I also never tried to use a chain weapon with momentum until just tonight
rocky nacelle
I think cousin okri??? found it but I know someone did
I remember seeing that exact revelation post
and it was with a chaxe no less lol
acoustic dune
wtf is that melody
fossil crag
does anyone have a clip with the zealot railgun knife
placid fiber
I remember seeing that exact revelation post
Meanwhile the thammer can get zap backstab cdr ironically
rocky nacelle
yep chain weapons losing on backstab cdr
placid fiber
I find that funny lol
acoustic dune
does anyone have a clip with the zealot railgun knife
wtf are you babbling about
hard nexus
If I crit both stabs on vet
With how much weakspot damage I'm stacking
I can sta...
vet should not have so many melee bonuses it makes me sad
rocky nacelle
my very subtle "finesse" when I 1 shot a pogryn or burgle with special ironhelm H3 in shroudfield
hard nexus
vet should not have so many melee bonuses it makes me sad
but u mean that is in it kills it
fossil crag
wtf are you babbling about
throwing knife + manstopper
acoustic dune
throwing knife + manstopper
whats man stopper again
placid fiber
vet should not have so many melee bonuses it makes me sad
You mean Vets shouldn't have so much helping their hopeless asses with a full 1 second before stamina starts regenerating, without the stamina regen delay reduction talents...?
fossil crag
whats man stopper again
blessing
hard nexus
You mean Vets shouldn't have so much helping their hopeless asses with a full 1 ...
.75 seconds*
lusty oar
whats man stopper again
hard nexus
but yes
placid fiber
You mean Vets shouldn't have so much helping their hopeless asses with a full 1 ...
Also more incentive to USE MELEE instead of COD'ing it up?
acoustic dune
hard nexus
Also more incentive to USE MELEE instead of COD'ing it up?
the ranged weapon class should use its ranged weapons
acoustic dune
wtf did i just read
placid fiber
.75 seconds*
I'm pretty sure it is 1 second, because both -0.25s stamina regen delay nodes do not give me a 0.25s time on stamina starting to regenerate...
hard nexus
instead of having access to some of the best melee talents
south folio
it's 1 second by default yeah
south folio
hi meow
lusty oar
wtf did i just read
oh you just read
Incweased Cweave sweats o-o-on C-c-cwiticaw H-h-h-hit a-a-a-and g-g-gain +15% W-w-w-wanged Attack Staggew.
south folio
the stamina regen delay nodes are pretty easy to get anyways
acoustic dune
backup158 wtf did i jsut read
placid fiber
but I'm all for Vets having more reason to use their melee, so we get less idiots trying to shoot hordes to death...
south folio
so you have 0.75s regen delay as vet pretty much almost always, and it's moreso that you have to go out of your way to not take those nodes
i also don't think that melee doesn't need even more incentive to be used given just how good it is anyways for the lack of skill that you need to put into it
placid fiber
so you have 0.75s regen delay as vet pretty much almost always, and it's moreso ...
I mean... unless you're me and purposefully get the 0.5s regen delay every time
rocky nacelle
but I'm all for Vets having more reason to use their melee, so we get less idiot...
me ruining everyone's melee with columnus scriers
fossil crag
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zr3b7x/datamined_class_base_stat_values_and_modifiers/ found this
south folio
it's not like it's that risky to be in close range, dodges are insanely lenient, and you don't have to aim much with melee
melee sounds spooky but ends up being pretty brainless once you've split your jump and dodge keybinds
acoustic dune
here have some these @lusty oar
placid fiber
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zr3b7x/datamined_class_base_stat_valu...
the vet used to have 1.25s for the stamina regen delay, yeah
rocky nacelle
still cracks my mind some people have not separated jump/ and dodge
fossil crag
the vet used to have 1.25s for the stamina regen delay, yeah
what is it now
placid fiber
1.0s
south folio
1 second
fossil crag
what about zealot
lusty oar
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/zr3b7x/datamined_class_base_stat_valu...
you can use this one now
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094038976
placid fiber
what about zealot
0.75s
acoustic dune
still cracks my mind some people have not separated jump/ and dodge
why seperate it?
placid fiber
psyker is 0.5s
acoustic dune
its not like i jump often
spare talon
cole listens to scare the hoes away music
Yall always hate on me when it's playing a mid song
placid fiber
zealots regenerate stamina 50% faster, as well
lusty oar
here have some these <@254403074158755842>
i always seen them but don't think i've had one
spare talon
But say nothing when it's a banger
south folio
cuz you jump if you try to dodge during the cooldown
acoustic dune
i always seen them but don't think i've had one
its pretty nice
hard nexus
i also don't think that melee doesn't need even more incentive to be used given ...
trooo!!!
south folio
so you can't mindlessly spam dodge/jump without being punished into a jump
rocky nacelle
Yall always hate on me when it's playing a mid song
not my fault its a MID playlist
😤
south folio
everyone is my enemy
hard nexus
i love this creature
placid fiber
i also don't think that melee doesn't need even more incentive to be used given ...
Dude, you and me BOTH have seen the hopeless rejects that are randoms...
hard nexus
🧿🧿
hushed knoll
acoustic dune
its peanut covered in crust and flavour
hard nexus
everyone is my enemy
b-but pookie…….
south folio
yeah but they're randoms and probably more casual players than us
rocky nacelle
everyone is my enemy
acoustic dune
<:acid_do_mathematics:684519255798185991>
hushed knoll
No 
south folio
they're going to be bad regardless of whether they use melee more or not
acoustic dune
i do not want to hear it american
placid fiber
yeah but they're randoms and probably more casual players than us
giving those idiots more incentive to use their melee instead of be a moron is not a terrible thing lol
hard nexus
yeah but they're randoms and probably more casual players than us
basing like anything on randoms is a bad idea
south folio
and i doubt stamina regen is the thing making vets not use their melee as much
south folio
game just needs a better tutorial and a better default behavior for the combined dodge/jump keybind
how players want to take it from there is up to them but i don't think stamina regen delay is the issue
placid fiber
and i doubt stamina regen is the thing making vets not use their melee as much
that's why I was talking about the melee damage bonuses for giving randoms the incentive to use their melee, and not the stamina regen delay reduction talents
acoustic dune
that and your coke with vanilla ice cream
south folio
vet has a good amount of them and weapon spec is a thing
acoustic dune
lusty oar
its peanut covered in crust and flavour
like fish flavor or
acoustic dune
like who does this
lusty oar
sounds good though
acoustic dune
like fish flavor or
can be bbq
south folio
vet does have a keystone that strongly incentivizes you to spend more time in melee than in ranged
acoustic dune
a lot of flavour
hard nexus
weapon specialist is awesome because it’s like an actually interactive keystone that changes ur play style
hushed knoll
I'm sorry
median steeple
cock float
south folio
<:acid_do_mathematics:684519255798185991> a cock float?
shlerp
hard nexus
as opposed to ogryn’s stat increases
hushed knoll
I neant a Cole float
acoustic dune
<:acid_do_mathematics:684519255798185991> a cock float?
cock flo
hushed knoll
Coke
median steeple
Cole float
south folio
I neant a Cole float
@spare talon
hushed knoll
fossil crag
weapon specialist is awesome because it’s like an actually interactive keystone ...
weapon spec + db is just the best feeling can go ooga booga and kill most things especially when using a knife well thats for me atleast
placid fiber
i miss food backhome
rocky nacelle
root beer float >>>>>>>
broken walrus
Execute this man for sins against the emperor
lusty oar
no u
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/cheesy-pei-cheese-fountain-pregnant-pregnancy-craving-gif...
no more like this
idk why theres flower
south folio
besides aesthetic, maybe it's a flower with some actual flavor
some tea flower or whatever
lusty oar
idk why theres flower
it's food for the eyes
placid fiber
@south folio I was, more or less, just saying that giving the bad and moderate skilled players more incentive to play in a way that could keep them and their teammates alive longer is not a bad thing <.<
spare talon
not my fault its a MID playlist
Erm
Same playlist
How does it feel being wrong
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1266654140369731626/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2024-06-06_2-07-19_AM.mp4?ex=66c8ded8&is=66c78d58&hm=26974c58000492c36d1b9bcc2cf5b24957202cee14b7ae651116739dc36a0425&
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046913589614747719/1266654557078028318/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2024-06-06_2-10-37_AM.mp4?ex=66c8df3b&is=66c78dbb&hm=8b6b35bffa1920bcb6a85173ac33f0c01601efb4bcda773b0ab09a3000e5a3a4&
south folio
yeah but they're also probably going to be bad at melee even then
and there are even better ways to bump up the average player's performance
placid fiber
yeah but they're also probably going to be bad at melee even then
I'll take a bad player who uses their melee over a moderate player that doesn't x.x
Cause both will die
but one might not die as fast to hordes
acoustic dune
cole why did they fly up to the sky
rocky nacelle
Erm
Same playlist
How does it feel being wrong
https://media.discordapp.net/att...
why cant this be every clip
acoustic dune
wtf was that
acoustic dune
if ur playlist has even 1 mid song
whats a mid song tbh
naive stirrup
music is subjective
placid fiber
I'll take a bad player who uses their melee over a moderate player that doesn't ...
I'll take a good player every day over either of these, but, I want my randoms to not shoot hordes in their face with their helbores lol
acoustic dune
music is subjective
sometime i like to listen to cbat
south folio
i don't think an incentive to use melee is the problem there anyways
oak geyser
Damn teammates keep using the green fog to grief me with white bar debuffs
placid fiber
i don't think an incentive to use melee is the problem there anyways
True... in general it won't do shit, but, for a select few of the bad players they will think "Huh, I can do more melee damage... interesting"... which may allow them to become just average instead x.x
south folio
yeah but then the talent tree also just gets hard focused with melee talents
which is why you can't solve it with more melee buffs
oak geyser
Hot take, put Stripped Down on an autogun and ranged will never matter again
south folio
at some point, you have to sit these players down and tell them in words on what they should do
placid fiber
https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395
I know I'm inhailing it extra hard tonight...
south folio
no amount of performance incentive will change their behavior without changing the talent tree
placid fiber
True... and even then... good talent trees won't make them suddenly good...
acoustic dune
maybe they should have use lacerate
rocky nacelle
ogryn cosplay
acoustic dune
*sigh* I wish I had more toughness...
i find that 150 toughness on zealot is enough
rocky nacelle
with those numbers
acoustic dune
ogryn cosplay
maybe all this time zealot is just a smaller ogryn
placid fiber
i find that 150 toughness on zealot is enough
150 is good, but, I found 170 on marty works better for me and my playstyle
acoustic dune
150 is good, but, I found 170 on marty works better for me and my playstyle
eh i perfer a dex built
thats prob why
i concern more with speed and stam myself
the buster give me fear
placid fiber
Well with 2 toughness curios and not a 2nd bonus +15 toughness node at the top I still have 168 toughness with my momentum build...
I just am greedy and I want moar
placid fiber
I have just found that having that tiny bit of extra toughness can just have me survive something stupid that I might not have otherwise...
rocky nacelle
useless?
acoustic dune
useless
placid fiber
Once I get plasteel I'll fix this up so I can have 20% gunner resist and 5% toughness on it over 10% block efficiency and 15% tox flamer resist...
acoustic dune
are you crying?
rocky nacelle
i just think of it as regard padding if i play stupid
placid fiber
Then I can use it on my toughness builds, for a little extra hp on the side
lusty oar
im too acoustic
placid fiber
Extra toughness just does so much for preventing hp damage...
lusty oar
yeah yeah go eat your bean milk or whatever
acoustic dune
yeah yeah go eat your bean milk or whatever
yeah i miss that too
placid fiber
Sure you take the % of missing toughness as hp damage... but your toughness recovers recover a larger amount of toughness each time, and you lose less % of your total toughness each time hit...
acoustic dune
god i miss street food
rocky nacelle
3 +3 stam curios
rocky nacelle
i will say tho the not getting hit mantra is always nice while running 2 wounds
but not getting hit while on 1 wound
ornate bone
(i always die in the first min)
not your fault of course
acoustic dune
not your fault of course
its always tzench
placid fiber
i will say tho the not getting hit mantra is always nice while running 2 wounds
I mean yeah... you obviously need to try to avoid getting hit when possible, vt2 taught me that pretty well lol
rocky nacelle
god i wish i could run a leech build from payday2 in darktide
you mean smiteker
🕵️
lusty oar
every time you use the flask, take a shot irl
placid fiber
you mean smiteker
Okay, hear me out... a psyker... with assail... a deimos... and...
a surge staff
obsidian prairie
every time you use the flask, take a shot irl
How to kill yourself:
rocky nacelle
I mean yeah... you obviously need to try to avoid getting hit when possible, vt2...
no im just saying it always feels nice no matter what, just dodging everything on 1 wound tho with only toughness saving you and having max marty stacks?
better feeling
acoustic dune
every time you use the flask, take a shot irl
taking a shot from your trusty vault 13 flask
sullen forge
every time you use the flask, take a shot irl
with rubbing alcohol
rocky nacelle
Okay, hear me out... a psyker... with assail... a deimos... and...
not bad but meh
if you run assail / DD go void
placid fiber
I know the surge staff is the worst psyker staff... but it's the only one I know how to use, and they at least made it do some damage instead of stunning more targets like smite does...
rocky nacelle
?
where do these "worst" weapon narratives come from
the bistol makes sense yea
but the surge staff?
placid fiber
the purgatus, trauma, and voidstrike are all better staffs...?
placid fiber
I mean... maybe I am wrong on that, but, it really isn't much better than the purgatus... if it even is...
north sedge
I don't disagree here, surge isn't all that hot
rocky nacelle
idc either way i use all staves
placid fiber
I just like having a ranged I know how to use, that allows me to not have to rely on ammo... >.<'
lusty oar
rocky nacelle
either way go ask the other siblings their thoughts
placid fiber
I know what staff I should use
rocky nacelle
placid fiber
I just have never been a fan of the voidstrike staff...
rocky nacelle
degenerates like you belong on a cross
placid fiber
It just... it doesn't click with me...
It is amazing, but, it doesn't click on my end
lusty oar
degenerates like you belong on a cross
rocky nacelle
It is amazing, but, it doesn't click on my end
shame
not born to be a projectile player
ivory marlin
rocky nacelle
projectiles are my favorite things in fpses
placid fiber
shame
I know it's a shame, I want to get good with the staff... but whenever I use it... I just feel... it feels wrong to me
acoustic dune
god i want to see someone talk like that for a day
rocky nacelle
what are you running with it?
acoustic dune
so i can learn the effect mental torture
placid fiber
Doesn't matter if it is surge + crit or weakspot peril removal with w/e...
rocky nacelle
so i can learn the effect mental torture
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/weirdcat-funnycat-psychich-assault-gif-66649479801514757
me when
head cwab
placid fiber
I can have a god-tier voidstrike with a good build for it and... I just don't feel it...
acoustic dune
I can have a god-tier voidstrike with a good build for it and... I just don't fe...
have you try
placid fiber
All it makes me feel is: discount fireball staff
acoustic dune
having fun
placid fiber
that pierces
