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what part of it is a bit
your not doing this to me
theyre really good imo
but i dont like the taste of actual onion rings
hes gonna go yro'ue
no he will go y'roue
yo’reue
hes been using that one but he misplaced the apostrophe
is this another layer of his humour
Onions give you powers beyond comprehension
there is no bit
thats not the bit i was referring to
what bit could u possibly be referring to
he was confused about the chairs not the funyuns
but u kept implying he was confused about the funyuns
impossible
im going to jeff the kill you
i read this way different before i comprehended the individual words
either joshos chair is just obliterated by his sitting positions and he wont admit it or hes trying to annoy me again
i was very lost
what does chair obliteration have to do with the chair covering up the hole
because you replaced the chair
that was a while ago
so did you replace the chair before the desk
of course
why would you replace the chair if you wanted to cover up the hole
desk follows chair in matters of refinement
that was the idea behidn keeping the desk
ah so you gave the old chair to ted
is this ted in the room with us right now
how does one sleep fatly
with great heft
he pondered it and realized my point
epiphanies do not have a set time duration
you implied a certain amount of time was taken
i am an exceptionally fast ponderer
oh my fault
he is one of the best ponderers
ill just know you were talking about your definition next time
no one ponders better than him
ted is sleeping quite gayly im hearing
gay gay gay
is fatly just code for gay
FAT
GUCK ME
Fat and gay

unkillable knock every walker back and get a million toughness from momentum
We live in hell
I hate vets
The other one has specialists on his fucking power sword
I hate that this looks like one of my bricked knives (except mine has good stats)
also uh interesting setup on vet knife
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Did he even have martyrdom at least
Or was the carapace just 100% useless
i mean it's dead regardless without thrust
Oh yeah true
real
What did you have
Karsolas and Achlys stubber
They had a fucking plasma and bolter magdumper
I should not be winning on both fronts
Randoms' builds give me aneurysms until I realize how a less than informed person might consider making a build
whats the recommended brauto variant for zealot
Two wounds for one talent point sounds good at a glance from a beginner's view
Man swift certainty AND the left IJ node, this guy is on to something
I don't look at random trees
and is there any reason to do infantry autogun over brauto
Weapons are sadder though
Same cannco
You can change a tree with knowledge
If you blunder a weapon's two slots then that's a perfectly fine weapon dumpster'd
Had a lacerate knife vet who died to one rager and immediately quit
Sounds accurate
Bricked
You should buy it
Peddler is so much cooler than Milk and it's not even close
curios gacha just drain too much plassteel
Curios can have all three of their subperks changed when crafting update happens
That... is cancer
I mean Ogryn melee is cracked, but, the fact you ranged killed them is sadge
I do that, so I can see if there's a weapon I can compliment. I'd rather spare myself the pain of looking at what they are bringing talent-wise. <.<
Hey, you never know. I sometimes see decent blessings on rando's weapons
defences
mobility dumped
Oh, mobiltiy my bad
what if i cant getthe chaxe above 500 on a gold
is that okay?
don't care4 about total score
Still... giving yourself more mobility isn't bad, since that affects dodge distance and the dodge distance is cancer on the chain axe
Ooh ok
DOnt' care about total score it's not vt2
Yeah but I was running against 2 power swords
high damage, high pen, high shredder, 2 good perks, thrust+slaught or ht
I swear fo fuckin god they need to give the chain axe crit chance and attack speed
and new sound design
sounds like im slapping people iwth a switch
It's not a crit weapon
no lol
as the resident chaxe addict since preorder beta
firstly, if you want attack speed, momentum and martyrdom is right there, as well as fotf
it doesn't need crit it's not a crit weapon and it doesn't need to be, not every weapon should revolve around crit
Nope only crit exists what else is zealot used for
only crit exists
I've been playing psyker since the crit/chastise nerf
Too much fun sucked out of my build
sucked right out
oh btw what do you want on the xiiig chainsword again
honestly
combination of shred, rampage, and/or bloodletter
Zealot or vet
Honestly I’d just swap perks but that’s cause I’m a freak who likes bloodletter
Then Wrath or Savage Sweep
thats bloodthirsty
Time for bedge 
Same thing you know what I mean
In another meeting Stan
Do you want to do my sprint retrospective for me?
A meeting? 
that chainsword will be light spamming hordes anyway
Huh
just keep sprint efficiency and get flak perk it's not bad
for zealot they can prob do without cleave
but on psyker or vet
imo they need sweep/wrath depending on variant
I had a weird burger the other day Stan
vet and scriers psyker get high base crit as well
It was a crumbed/fried maccaroni&cheese patty, with smoked brisket and bacon jam on a brioche bun
It was tasty, but I could feel my arteries hardening with every bite
le mao
And the ogryn has Terrifying barrage MODDED onto a kickback
gotta extra suppress
the gun that suppresses everything in a mile radius
Wow that sounds good
🤤
GOD this vet build is fun
mine now
Was breddy gud, alot of food tho
which one is it? weapon spec dbarrle?
There's a burger festival going on in my city at the mo, so trying a bunch of burgs
Well its a food festival, but the first few weeks are dedicated to burgers
Oh this is the last week D:
I need to go to the Belgian place and get the chicken burger with cherry and cheese fondue
Woah woah woah...
"Chicken burger?"
Are we talking about the same thing anymore?
I'm not american, so yes I use normal people language to describe a chicken burger
HOLY FUCK THAT GUY MAD EEPY
Unless some mad lad is actually grinding up chicken the same way you grind up beef.
NO CAP
that's how you make chicken burgers
my city has a place that won some proper award burgers
BORGAR
borgar keeng
i’d call that a chicken sandwich using burger buns if i was pedantic
It's an American thing
The rest of the world calls it a burger
Dunno what Canada does
Sir, that is a sandwich.
I suddenly have no idea what a hamburger is anymore
Huh
it’s a german dude i ground up and keep in the freezer
I think realistically the key distinction is whether its served hot or cold
If someone offered me a chicken sandwich I'd assume it was shredded/smoked chicken and would be cold
If it was a burger, I'd assume it was hot

No...
The distinction is that one is a chicken sandwich, and the other is an actual beef patty burger.
Metre? WTF are you talking about, that's 3.28 feet
Chicken burger is not reql
Basically this conversation haha
And again, it is an Americanism to call that a chicken sandwich
If I'm rooting around in my refridgerator and I ask if you want a chicken sandwich, then you can assume it's a cold cut sandwich.
This is not a debate, it is a fact haha
But if I'm using my oven, you can assume it's a hot sandwich.
Either way, it isn't a burger.
If its minced chicken formed into a patty i might see it as burger but if its just straight chicken on bread sandwich
It's still a chicken sandwich, though, because it's not beef.
To be a burger, it has to be beef.
I mean their are turkey burger which is ground turkey
I will slay you for such sacrilege.
This is literally an option at a burger festival
emperor's gift moment
Where might this burger festival take place
That's actually one of the better Big E gifts I've seen.
ye
Anywho, I think the problem here is that Europeans see it's served on a hamburger bun and automatically dub it a hamburger.
It is an exclusively American-english thing to get hung up whether it involves a minced patty to determine its burger status
Because it isn't a burger...
I don't see why you're not wrapping your head around this one.
Dont make me tap the sign
Not beef = not a burger.
It literally is???
It'd be like saying aluminum is the only correct spelling of aluminium
You are speaking to me in English, yes?
In English, a burger is made out of beef.
OK well you're welcome to that opinion, which is wrong haha
If you have some other word in a different language, chances are it's probably an umbrella term for sandwich.
holy SHIT
And if it's a "burger" that isn't made out of beef, it's distinctively labelled as such.
Like a "turkey burger."
Because it isn't beef.
So a chicken burger
Well, yeah, but again, still not a proper burger.
Hence the naming.
Burger semantics aside...
I will shit my pants and then make you wear them
What did they do to you?
LFG, Just a flesh wound Penance?
If its minced or ground meat its a burger if not sandwich like just putting an uncut piece of beef on a burger bun doesnt make it w burger
they stood in the way
Evil veteran cole arc my plans come to fruition
Now all you need is to embrace infiltrate to be slightly less evil
i am liking the knockback of voc, not just the overtoughness
tannerposting
Im rlly suprised they havent nerfed it yet
i love offensively knocking the guy i wanna kill to the ground for a free stab
also i can keep scab packs grouped up with the knockback so the kraks collat them
W infiltrate and low profile you can potentially hit 20 straight seconds of uninterrupted stabbing
tanner out here writing his own support at this point
low profile vet is so dumb but poxwalkers ignore it i think
but i need them to be swinging and shooting at me for the crit on dodge talents
but it's stills strong asf
Tru
low profile is for sex not havers
https://theburgerdive.com/award-winning-burgers might be soft doxxing myself but this is the place, best burgers i know, and these are their award winners

What happened to your spider toes stan
random queued with 2 slabs known as trundle the great and big gay al
This actual individual
@modern lintel decisions
if its a vraks3 with hh/da
its gonna fuck
doesnt vet have stupid crit already
its only for the first shot
well if its both ur ammo in the first shot no bad then
how much crit rate
w/out scattershot
10%
35 with crit on dodge
then scatter would make it like 95 right at max stacks
yes
which men are you trying to stop
scatter will also run me more crit chance if i dont get at least 3 melee kills before i whip it out again
am dead
is that a vet talent
wep specialist
Reload speed dump 1
damn then yea why not scatter shot then
Psykers when they kill a lot of things
I just had a dream where FS released a new content update for Darktide, and one of the things they added was a system designed to "Identify underperforming players and gently encourage them to try lower difficulty settings"
In game, this consisted of fading the screen to black mid-match and displaying a paragraph of white text which would say
"You should consider playing on a lower difficulty level." followed by a sentence or two of technobabble talking about how impressive/difficult Auric was before quickly cutting back to the game.
For example:
"You should consider playing on a lower difficulty level. Auric operation level enemies have an impressive artificial intelligence that uses RADAR to triangulate your position at all times."
Another described the means to extract energy from a dying sun but only used acronyms, and didn't have anything to do with Darktide.
To make matters worse, no one knew what caused the game to think you need to be playing on a lower difficulty, so everyone was getting these kinds of messages every few minutes. And people were MAD about it. I was mad about it.
I recall someone saying "Why does it matter that the enemies know my position, I'm not trying to HIDE from them!?"
New map was aight though and they gave Ogryn a scythe.
I’m gonna read the whole thing but I just wanna say that having a dream about fatshark and darktide is wild behavior
is triggering the dh and parrying it to death troll
This would be my second Darktide dream.
If it makes you feel any better I had a dream that Ogryn had a really big Thunder hammer
The first took place on a spooky blue and white map, and multiple folks here had similar dreams.
Best dream ever
A damn good dream indeed.
Not darktide related but i hade a dream my teeth fell out then the inside of my mouth looked like a geode
That sounds cool! Or terrible. What's your position on geodes?
ROCK
Honestly, hhag on gunker isn't that bad.
Recons still reign supreme, imo, though.
Imagine if auric had less enemies than normal, but the AI was actually like scary smart
Imagine the AI used RADAR to triangulate your current position at all times.
Spooky shit man
Keep saying they should have a modifer like this smart ai friendly fire on etc etc
Multiple snipers covering every angle of cover
Every gunner in the level converging on one specific chokepoint in the map to bottleneck your team:
I do not rock with friendly fire all my little friends will die
Terrifying
I reckon youd die fatassing a single doorway before them
Snipers prefiring your position.
Now THAT is scary.
Gunner do sort of prefire or suppress already for a short period
Trappers running in gangs would also be scary.
They would delay their shots to guarantee you get caught.
Tox bombers and scab bombers throwing nades together in hallways
The scariest of all
Imagine if the heretics had the bright idea to make their walking suicide bombs not making a distinct noise
Poxbursters…. Waiting
Real
when do snipers get those tempestus backpack batteries
so that they can full auto their longlas
:3

AI smart enough to use barrels to knock players off ledges
Honestly the scariest part of that is that enemies could ignite barrels at all
i saw a enemy get blasted by a gunner shooting barrel
I have never seen an enemy ignite a barrel
A pack of muties staggering their charges to play permanent games of "Keep Away". A line of muties grabbing and tossing players to other muties, so on and so forth, until they can throw them off a ledge.
I saw a snipet take out a gunner trapper and couple trash mobs in one shot once
Snipers waiting to shoot until you’re in the air after a Mutie throw
"We updated the Auric Level enemy AI to put them on par with the Harlem Globetrotters"
enemies dont aim for the barrel but can hit it
so basically they have to aim for you(teammate) and accidentally hit the barrel
Snipers that could shoot grenades in the air making them do friendly fire
Snipers with trophy systems
Bursters sneaking up on players, but instead of exploding they just keep making periodic ticking sounds to slowly drive them insane.
annnnd most of them firing from shoulder position means that barrels basically dodge them always
you say this like it isn't 24/7 on poxburster wave mael
That would be a terrifying modifier
Just a constant ticking
Ohhhh shit what if every poxwalker exploded in a mini burst
More fun than scary
oops all poxbursters
Exactly lol
tbh only reason that would be tolerable is that they dont do chipdamage like their bigger bros
Yeah
game is too melee oriented to make basic fodder enemies fucking annoying
which is why most casual players hated the shooter buff
To be fair, mostly ranged enemies exists
you still deal with them as melee, ammo economy and all that
Yeah true
Oops! All daemonhosts
They basically litter the floor creating a very specific walkable path
maelstrom where poxbursters replace every existing enemy
they do not jump anymore tho, but still explode upon death
and can do normal poxwalker attacks so they still pose somewhat of a threat
Maelstrom where there’s a daemonhost that essentially acts like the malevolent spirit from chaos wastes in vt2
That would be neat if it replaced boss spawns and increased their frequency
Yeah
like you have to fight a nerfed daemonhost 4 times a mission
🤔
thats a chicken sandwich
it's a chicken burger
See man they're fkn crazy.
Chicken burgers are NOT real burgers!
Chicken sandwich spotted
You shouldn't even be calling them a burger in the first place!
They're sandwiches!
from what im reading
the difference between a chicken sandwich and a chicken burger is if the meant is whole or ground
I mean is a burger NOT a type of sandwich?
first comment says it all
yeah, for me it's the buns that make it a burger, not the patty
The conundrum from that reddit post depends on the restaurant serving it.
Burger King, known for selling burgers, would market it as such.
And thats all well and good, it's a burger with a chicken fillet on it.
But if a restaurant was known for selling chicken, it'd be a chicken sandwich with a burger patty.
chick fil a advertises it as a chicken sandwich
And yeah, I noted the bun argument a while ago.
So if i slice a steak and put it on burger buns its a burger
b-but... what if I want a whole chicken burger, or a ground chicken sandwich...?
so does every other place that serves a whole piece of chicken as the meat between bread
It's like the chicken and the egg argument.
Except this time we know which came first.
it was marketed as a steakburger by Steak n'Shake
The buns were named after the patty.
Unironically, steakburger.
Anywho, we've found the conclusion. Europeans are taking yet another L.
Burgers are made of beef. Throwing anything on a hamburger bun doesn't make it a burger.
i am fine with the explanation
Lots of people in Murica tho
Literally the entire anglosphere except America
France is the fourth country in terms of burger
wat
Who wouldve thought the whole anglosphere was wrong
Fourth in line to become Burger King?
Ikr?
The true burger-etymology crime you should be paying attention to is in Australia
Ask them what they call Burger King over there
and that was ten years ago
Macca's!
Fucken Hungry Jack's
Have you tried Ferg my dear neighbor?
Yeah
i ate it on the fuckin' beach too
it was sunny, it was good
my god the wait
Yeah Queenstown is gr8, except it has now become so pricy
And that's by NZ standards where everything is too pricy
so so so pricy lol
Ding dang Peter Tiel wanted to build mansion there by the lake and got rejected lmao
NZ isnt a real place
well I am used to NC so that was not a big difference tbh
i was not shocked that my 20 days trip in the South cost us quite a lot
Has all the hooplah calmed down in NC?
yeah kinda
Yeah hadn't heard anything for awhile so I somewhat assumed no news is good news
there's still a curfew and bottle shops have just reopened
Did you wind up dipping out in the end?
yeah but rn people get unemployment benefits...
let's talk again 3 months from now
the wall is coming hard and fast
Oh the govt is wanting to cut off the benefit?
it's on a 3 month basis rn
Ah
so it will end a some point
i am moving back to Europe in 10 days
Oh true
i'll be living in Italy with my wife
Rome
Jesus, thats gonna be a gear shift
yeah going from an Island of 200k people to a city of 2 to 3 millions
I hope you're doing your hand warm ups now
ME: Worried talking about a darktide dream I had might be seen as off topic.
Zealot-chat: Chickn Borger.
Me and Dan: talking about things in the Pacific
Zealot-chat: silently wondering if that's in the US
...
North Carolina?
...
Do they speak a native language in NC as well, or just French?
French is the official language but you have a looooooot for dialects
Funnily enough, english technically isn't an official language of NZ
whattt?
It is the defacto language
So like everything is English
But legally speaking we have two official languages, Maori and NZ Sign Language
TIL
For all intents and purposes English is an official language though
TBH most Kiwi's don't even know that tidbit haha
that's crazy lol
since the 19th century France has fought hard to make French the only official language
Yeah I think it's a relic of Maori not being an official language until - I assume - the 80s?
Lemme check
my grandma could not speak her ''patoi'' at school
even though that was what was spoken at home
T_T
And they didn't feel they needed to make english one, cause it was what everyone already spoke
Bold flex
kiwis aren't that small mang
Big fan of guava
the kiwis I ate were small
Mk3 stinky alert
uhm I have a good mk6 too 🤓
Explode
guy appears once and then never to be seen again
mcguffin
Im curious to try manstopper for lawbringer on zealot
yea lmfao
mr mcguffin
lawbringer or dragonsbreath
funny meme on dragons breath
I hate all the auto shotty besides law for some reason
decent
yknow thats fair
the default law feels like an uhhh
payday 2 shotgun
tbh
i like it I just dont use it
m1014?
I fucked w the goat simulator secondary shotgun one payday hard
idk reload needs a bit quicker
or actual magfed shotgun for normal ops
pls
well all the other shotty is either duck shooting gun with slug or a pump with fire
double barrel + explosive rounds with stealth build so I crouch under a bulldozer and chin check 1 shot him
Also i may have been braind dead playing w sociopath deck w i think the queenswrath i never rlly try harded on payday 1 tapping dozers w claymore was funny tho
This worth snatching despite the missing dodge?
ah the good ol judge
No no it was like a stockless pump
limb is ass and perks are ass
so 1/4
and you already have headtaker
you could try to keep it for the itemization
get mobility up to 51 and then hange out 3 stuff
Unarmored isnt entirely cooked for tax axes idont think
i dont remember :/
i guess
but even then its 2/4
limbsplitter and wp damage isnt the good ones there
i rum flak maniac i think? idk
been a while
I coulda sworn you run unarmored for scab bruiser breakpoint
This thing super goated
Dang what is with the shops this evening. I just logged in to check what was on offer
i kinda dont remember lol
this was in the shop for my vet
Wow a perfectly good weapon would be a shame if some foul tech priest bricked it
I just checked my vet and
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Guh
:(
Why do i get back to my desk and my spotify is playing gooseworx
brain rot auto play
Its not even clown ppl its fucking snow miser
Hilarity Ensues.
Something small to wrap the year up, Hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoyed making it.
Piano Midi I edited: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6mmYWTYGjs
Lyrics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwLfG9_FLyc
Everything else dot dot dot dot, erm, me?
Love crack miser
stam to flak or unarmored limbsplitter to headtaker
that would be better with a 7...
Also just realized the knife iv been using on vet for like 4 months HAS 64 PEN im cooked
pa + h1 is not the same on the mk2
so you've been getting carried.......
/s
Basically
I used to run a terrible knife for knife zealot just because I couldn't find a better one
I mean... my 1st decent heavy sword had like 34% cleave targets <.<'
but the damage on that is sadge
I pretty much relied on blazing piety crit bleed stacking
Think 42 mobility on knife is cooked
Cleave targets is fine thats p much just stagger i think
The other stats were not the best either, I can't remember what any of the other ones on it were though lol
I hope it explodes
Me looking at a barrel
what are the chances of getting all 100s on an item
535 was old 512 is new maybe downgrade
did they say that you could go beyond 80?
i have no idea
Me looking at my psyker teammate
I keep forgetting to make a chain axe build
Took me 700k dockets and 6k steel but im ok w this
300 kills away from purge the heretic 5
Well with 2 health curios and 1 toughness curio I can get 184 toughness with 493 health... I feel like a zealot with more health like this lol
Queueing a maelstorm w a smite psyker w fire staff and a blue dclaw how long does he make itb
u r stinky
heh.. that'll showem..
Come on, man, no need to try to kill someone's confidence like that...
Why does everyone think uncanny strikes good
because it lets you murdicate crushers...?
cuz it is a basically free 100% rending buff
which means youre ignoring all armor damage reductions
^
Seeing the zealot with the knife killing groups of crushers before a rashad can kill 1 is funny as well
Except if you do things right you already kill it thru armor
Bleed stacks is a lot less situational and good all around
Unless you mean flesh tearer then you're doing yourself more harm then good
since the knife does insane weakspot damage
RENDING BUFFS BLEED
And how is it situational since you want weakspot hits with the knife, to begin with? If you aren't getting weakspot hits with the knife then you're not using it correctly
I don't even play the knife, but, I know that much
Don't suppose someone has a knife zealot build handy? 👀 I'm only assuming they're still decent
As long as you know what you're doing and you don't suck like a lot of randos do it is lol
I don't have a knife build handy, tho. I don't run the knife, since my bad aim is rough on it to begin with
the only armor type that recieves full effect from bleed are maniac, which realistically just means dreg ragers
I was mainly talking about dealing with non specialists
it's the best blessing in the game
since so many weapons struggle against armor
You still want weakspot hits...
not only does rending from uncanny strike buff that damage up to full for flak, unyielding, and carapace
it also does the same for every other attack
plus with uncanny strike at t4 will also give a bit of a damage bonus past the 100% rending threshold
I've heard it was the worst
i don't understand where this like love of bleed comes from even like
??????????????????
It doesn't matter if you are talking trash, elites, specials, or monsters... you want weakspot hits with the knife
like back in the day
hits... not the weakspot damage perk
yah it nearly triples your power
3x damage is bad?
you can one shot crushers on psyker w a dueling sword iv
w uncanny
uncanny is nuts
and if it crits its 6x damage?
where do ppl like get this info from
Hypothetically, the two stab BP is way easier to hit
we need to fight this misinfo final boss
That one youtuber who is anti uncanny
And will never admit they are wrong
gl 
it's just nuts man
knife is NOT a bleed weapon
you do NOT get your damage from bleed with it
modder (cheater) detected. opinion discarded 
more chances for cdr anyways
Bleed exists to enable scourge except scourge enables itself
If you want bleed you go uncanny flesh tearer and that’s the best you can do and i’ll live with that, dots are cool
i have like 34 mods i think
OP still broken for the flamer?
This, past uprising lascerate makes you vastly less effective
yup, only buffs impact dmg
*sigh
why is someone an uncanny youtuber
From not hitting the head
there's so much data on the game
tanner's strongest warrior has made his way into psyker and the zealot chat
sigh I might try learning the knife some on my 2nd zealot since I already have a nice knife...
Because you can also just attract lesser idiots to feed your ego because the elitist private discord group was mean to them
(They told me lacerate was bad and uncanny was good)
uncanny is good, but you can do without it
ok time to try out HSword
especially on zealot
On combat blade
Yes
He is coming from psyker chat and is referring to dueling swords
oh yeah i was talking about the cb
Which don’t have crit adms
i have never used a ds without uncanny tbh
@spare talon Hey Cole, how's this for a stamina curio? Just asking since I know you use them <.<
It buffs the lights against flak a ton and it buffs the heavies enough to hit the 1.0 which normally stops at 0.8 it’s huge actually
Melk has that for my 2nd zealot
oh are we sharing weapons
good, you can keep the lower toughness and change the other two
since 5% more dr is gonna be better vs literally 1% toughness
so youd change the gunner to 20% and the revive to prolly stam regen
I'll just have to test the blessings to confirm for myself
the confirm community
too bad
I was just using riposte flesh tearer and haven't had any issues with hordes nor big enemies
But I'll try uncanny and see how that feels too
I'm gonna force you to shower since you are the true stinker prime
youd want to replace riposte on there so the bleed gets said rending, like itll deal 25% more dmg against flak enemies, even non-elites, and 4x as much against crushers
zealot can get enough crit chance innately from the skill tree to suppliment the crit chance
or you could go riposte uncanny for the raw damage
The argument against uncanny I've heard is that it adds more dmg that you didn't need where it would've already killed stuff
Not saying it's valid, that's just what I heard
thats literally what bleed is
thats the argument against bleed
uncanny is buffs against the things that take longer to kill
bleed is the opposite (without rending)
like the enemies that a proc of bleed stacks is most effective against are the weakest ones
that die in 1-2 light attacks to the head anyway
What the fuck is that description
Cinema
Just checking not flaming, you do know how rending works correct
Also what's the best lasgun now?
I know the xii has been outclassed but like by which version
Besides maniac, rending is going to boost your bleed damage a good amount for flak and unyielding and a massive amount for carapace
I'm just trying to see if Tanner really is someone that knows what they're talking about and is outcast by everyone or if he doesn't know what he's talking about. I only recently got back into darktide and started doing the super high difficulties. I have seen youtubers in other games tell their viewers accurate information that ended up helping me loads more than what other people have said. I found his channel and thought his commentary was funny and his frustration as someone pissed off about bad gameplay rather than the commentator being the person with bad gameplay themselves.
Just trying not to be misinformed
With scourge and piety you are already getting a ton of crit chance so you don’t need riposte to proc flesh tearer, because if things die before you can stack scourge you don’t need it anyways
Making sure I do what gives me the most success in the game
Tanner is a crazy ass who cannot form a correct assessment
Ignore them
most youtubers simply just have bad opinions on youtube, tanner is probably the worst offender
Tanner is a mechanically good, even great player who often has terrible takes and is extremely stubborn
As far as people to listen to: Cole is definitely the one, he is a god damn legend with the knife. <.<
I'll just test out in a bunch of games with the different blessings and then I'll know the truth behind it
u should be melted into paste
me thinks
use the mg1a
with the full auto mod
it's brain dead
u melt everything
true, i saw him kill everything with a lacerate knife so now i only use it 
He takes the “worst debate bro energy” you know and simply speaks louder and repeats himself more and more
like he believes that weakpoint and crit damage as perks (10% increase) are good, despite the fact that they only buff the increase in damage of the hit, not the total damage, meaing youre dealing anywhere from 2-5% more damage which isnt enough on almost anything to kill something faster/in less swings or hits
And since he has confidence, this makes him easily appealing to people who lack critical thinking
how ppl can like
believe some1 w/o evidence
Since we are on knives. Does anyone else have trouble mixing in the punch into heavy in combos? Feels like there is a delay after light attacks where I cant punch
Tanner has done evidence before
He's said evidence but if it's been wrong then that's why I'm being misinformed
But it’s often skewed to fit what he wants to conclude
Perplexing even
And since I haven't actually looked into all these different blessings and tested them out since it's such a grind to get good blessings and weapons
I'm just making assumptions
Would you rather have 5% ish more damage on crits or 25% versus the most common armor type
I guess yt recommended was screwing with me then
Damn 19 deaths
I assume he exploded all over the place
Bro could not handle the specialist monstrosities
Yt recommends for dt is pretty bad outside of you know, funny, with friends, casual etc etc
If you want info about perks, builds, blessings then the discord is the place to go, the people who know their shit are here. Places like reddit and youtube are more likely to have misinformation and even believe said misinformation on top of it.
Sir yes sir 
The meta vids are often just people repeating what they want to be true
How often does a zealot get crit weak spot hits, and what is the amount of health melted with critical dmg increase compared to just raw dmg increase against an armor
I would only go elsewhere to see how poor their choices are tbh <.<
Crit damage depends on a weapons finesse
Ah yeah my knife has that maxed
Catachan mark 4 or something, it has like a push stab
Finesse can range from as low as 1.14 (114%) ogryn twin stubbers to as high as 3.1 (310%) on a 100% finesse combat blade iirc
With the knife...? like... quite often I would say lol
Speaking of knives, anyone else dealing with this BS?
If you do a special attack, then hold a heavy, then sprint, there's a good chance that the attack will fail completely. As it, the animation bugs out and you do zero damage.
370+ stats in attributes
The consistency of flak versus 10% of something that often never reaches 1.0 extra is a bit of a difference
Unlike vt2 total stats dont matter
Mk6
It is basically just stat spread specifica
You want close as 80% as possible in damage related stats
Yeah I got like 75 and lowest was on first target with everything else 80 I believe
Then I tried doing it with the mark 3
Knifes are notoriously a pain in the ass to roll because all but one stat helps with damage
I put +25 percent dmg vs both armor types as the perks
And then I don't think I can remove flesh terror now 😦
I think it's locked in
What do you mean both armor types
FT riposte is
Not ideal
Bleed has terrible damage without rending, and isn’t much better with it
Weapons have adms on their swings
Listed as a 1.0=100% effectiveness format
Is weak spot critical hits by default ignoring armor or no
Nope
not at all lol
Ah okay because that's what I thought happened
Also, the total rending bonus from sources on your character can’t exceed 100% either
Crits have better adm’s typically but usually not enough to offset attacking bad armor
And was why uncanny strike was bad since armor was ignored anyway
No, some weapons have crit adms but not all of them
that's MASTER to you
Uncanny is incredible
One of the best blessings
And even if you have high adms, rending will still be converted to damage
I think I should cook you in a soup
A stew perhaps
So essentially, uncanny makes a zealot with a critical hit attack pierce through the armor damage reduction to the point it can 1 tap?
Knife can ignore it with Piety and riposte+precog due to its crit adm versus carapace being high enough to pass fine
Dueling sword does not have crit adms, knife have crit adms all above 1.0/100%
It makes all attacks pierce armor
The absolute insanity that is adm calculations hurts my mind
Stacked rending gives full AP
it's a crime against humanity
The only time you are "ignoring" all armor by default is with chastise on the 1st melee hit after it, since they made it have 100% rending for it
Like no matter how many times it's explained I just don't get it
All I know is that it's good
Ok weapons have armor penetration ratings listed in %s
OKAY SO
As do damage overtime effects
And you get all the stacks built up just by getting weak spot kills on hordes of infested right
Fucking why does dot have armor pen
Weakspot hits
Against anything
Weak spots being their squishy little heads :0
cuz if you bleed it clearly is from inside the armor
Oh ok just hits
dumbass
Rending will boost these additively until they are at 100% effectiveness,
Weakspot hits
Here's a visual show of this @knotty aurora
So instead of like 75% dmg getting through it's 100?
Yeah so rending is like penetration then
If an armor damage modifier (adm) is at or above 100% effectiveness, rending is converted to damage instead at 1/4th exchange rate
additively up to 100%, greatly diminished beyond that
but it means youre dealing way more damage regardless
Dont worry its genetic
Damn
Also, fatshark applied a second limiter, a character cannot benefit/apply more than 100% rending bonus from blessings and talents
Meaning that t4 uncanny is mostly completely worthless compared to t3
What is the misunderstanding tanner has about rending you think?
He’s stubborn and will never admit he is wrong
Think he said it only applied to carapace and flak
Which I've noticed at high difficulties is so many enemies in the game
Thank you for this btw I've been trying to actually figure out the math side of things instead of just ape braining
He used to come here every now and then and it often ended with him being clowned on so he stopped
Yep
Do I dare show dms I had with him lol, probably can't here but can I dm someone
I feel stupid falling into his misinformation
Ehh not worth
i need to throw myself into HISTG with HSword now
Best to not engage
A shame he was the first person I saw talking about high level gameplay
I mean hes not all misinformation but dont take it at face value either
No worries about it at least you changed your mind instead of doubling down like some others that walk in here
Yeah just like a lot of things
You know, for how popular the knives are, I am surprised I don't see more people complaining about their attacks sometimes not doing any damage.
I just figured it mightve been a dbd kinda case where people argue against a playstyle that does work very well, despite it being frowned upon
I mean why should you? You were working on no/low knowledge and you used the best source you had at that time. Then you came here and got a better source. <.<
But nope
I can't find this bug being reported elsewhere.
Might be skill issue
So either I'm the only chappy who likes the special+charged sprinting heavy or I am bad at searching.
Yeah, or maybe it works great for him personally or something
Maybe his teams carry him or he makes few mistakes to the point where he can't see his blessings saving him?
Me or the other guy? Because I've video proof
Its just that the way he views the game is not fun≠meta he is just only ever meta and its sort of his view on everygame which i guess is his fun in it
People are just great at digging themselves into a hole and then instead of asking for help to get out just digging their heels in and staying in said hole instead. >.>
Yeah I was thinking at first oh everyone else here is dumb like he said in dms but then I was like wait how can over 7 people be against him
Maybe loose connection
And no one on his side lol
I remember bug with channeling skills in another game
I dont mind him but he doubles down on odd things for no reason
?
Turned out my keyboard was loose
Keyboard/mouse connection loose
That can cause this?
https://youtu.be/mBam8Cz_t_o
If you do a special attack, then hold a heavy, then sprint, there's a good chance that the attack will fail completely. As it, the animation bugs out and you do zero damage.
Idk
It's petty but he has a grating voice and attitude, especially noticed this during his update preview stream
Im a ferret


