then everything else just sort of happened
#zealot-class
rocky nacelle
rocky nacelle
if you want it to be
acoustic dune
if you want it to be
no you tell me
coarse birch
Burgers are friends
rocky nacelle
its a skeleton guy and a burger
not bad for zeal
oh ya i was gonna try out mk7 HSword
sometime
time to see if I have any blessings at all for that shit
do I smoke the 380 to get deathblow for the 375
coarse birch
Yes
worldly breach
Thanks!
rocky nacelle
ok lucky for me I have a DSword I can try on zealot now later
coarse birch
but maniac is likely beter
worldly breach
I didn't even know you could charge it! I was wondering why I was only getting basically a lunge of distance out of it
rocky nacelle
yea i was very surprised to hold F one day
and see it had a cursor
its a faint red one
and the screen gets red on the edges a bit
paper harness
ok lucky for me I have a DSword I can try on zealot now later
Bromentum is such a cracked blessing
It’s like uncanny
rocky nacelle
you got a build for HSword dorn?
paper harness
Yeah I’ll boot dt in a sec
coarse birch
tknives are the only zealot blitz
rocky nacelle
ah ok ill make one rq
paper harness
Immo doesn’t give the instant dopamine hit of trapper one shots
rocky nacelle
or sniper longshots
coarse birch
i actually cant imagine playing zealot without them now
i had to for the penances and it was like missing an arm
rocky nacelle
would I be running something like this for HSword (this is a remnant of my FOF knife build)
coarse birch
the others are v good
paper harness
no crit cdr
rocky nacelle
atk spd i assume
paper harness
rocky nacelle
I was gonna take these 2 points
and go
purge the unclean
ngl
big fan of UNYLD dmg
paper harness
coarse birch
purge is fine ye
spare talon
start of a dreyko heresy mael and ive already clutched the game once
rocky nacelle
yea just gotta swap a few nodes around
spare talon
at lvl 15
rocky nacelle
alright bet
appreciate it dorn
gonna have to psykhanium some attack chains later
i remember you talking about H S H S
paper harness
she is so pretty
rocky nacelle
zamn
modern lintel
Why exactly did they decided to rename bromomentum to deathblow for hsword
rocky nacelle
probably to differentiate if anything
everytime you'd have to specify bromentum whether it was an axe or sword
thats my guess at least
copper hawk
Mold
copper hawk
Revolver
rocky nacelle
rocky nacelle
funny burn
copper hawk
Lasanything on zealot ?
coarse birch
youd probably want bolter or revo, the one weakness of hsword is cara/bosses
copper hawk
R u having FUN para ??
paper harness
Lasanything on zealot ?
burgle
copper hawk
Do we have 2 put u in the unfunnening chamber ??
rocky nacelle
youd probably want bolter or revo, the one weakness of hsword is cara/bosses
ok bolter
coarse birch
laspistol is goated
copper hawk
U WILL meta
rocky nacelle
i havent used my bolter
copper hawk
RIGHT. MEOW
rocky nacelle
on any of my builds in a bit
paper harness
4 million
coarse birch
you can still fight bosses with hsword but bolter is nice for crushers and bon
paper harness
pain#
rocky nacelle
I kinda want to run a lasgun on my zeal now
now u wanna swag jack me after talking shit
look at u
rocky nacelle
look what u need to mimic a fraction of my fun
copper hawk
When u were in pampers i studied the rashad
rocky nacelle
copper hawk
paper harness
copper hawk
Skullcrusher hammerbloe
copper hawk
Hammerblow skullcrusher
Ur perks dont even matter w hammerblow and skullcrusher
You kill everything
Guess except unyielding but u got that already
Maniacs get staggered and cleaved mid combo w the H2 from the the crusher
copper hawk
Y r u playing heresy
copper hawk
3 skullcrusher and 3 hammerblow isnt bad at all
median steeple
starved london child fights an american tourist
copper hawk
U can always roll for 4 blow and 4 crush
rocky nacelle
copper hawk
And put them on l8r
rocky nacelle
copper hawk
Ok now skullcrusher
Pls pls PLS omeowssiah BRICK this LASPISTOL using ZEALOT
They r not allowed to have ANY fun
hushed agate
grizzled aspen
rocky nacelle
unbrickable
hushed agate
Good shit
rocky nacelle
cope
copper hawk
U didnt respot the image 10 yrs bad luck
Im a black felinid i crossed ur path 10 yrs bad luck
Oooh u wanna gamble for skullcrusher
Oooooh keep pulling
copper hawk
The crusher is so fun but so boring
rocky nacelle
HSword and crusher
copper hawk
It does everything so well
median steeple
actual addiction
copper hawk
U can do the special and swing to just
rocky nacelle
bros a crusher hater and still gambled
and I still got a good crusher out of it too
copper hawk
Knock over a horde if ur cornered
grizzled aspen
The nicest thing about the crusher isn't that it does everything.
rocky nacelle
cause thunder hammer existed
copper hawk
IT'S BROKEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
grizzled aspen
It's that you can tell bulwarks to fuck off.
hushed agate
Knock over a horde if ur cornered
Tbh i dont nearly use the power attack as much as stuff like the paul
copper hawk
(W hamblow and skullcrush)
rocky nacelle
It's that you can tell bulwarks to fuck off.
now THIS I will enjoy doing
copper hawk
I use the power attacks when there's too many goons around me
Since it has INFINITE FUCKING CLEAVE and staggers EVERYRHINF
Everything*
median steeple
hate is more powerful
I mean no not really I got mine first try since im hadrons favorite
median steeple
copper hawk
I love it..
rocky nacelle
I mean no not really I got mine first try since im hadrons favorite
that was me but with knife and eviscerator
she hates giving me good impact weapons
like TH
median steeple
knife doesn't count since only evil people use it
copper hawk
I havent dusted off my crucis since before we got the talent tree
median steeple
no thats @spare talon
median steeple
you're titan
copper hawk
Ur stinky
rocky nacelle
(it actually is)
median steeple
im not stinky
rocky nacelle
cant believe I talked shit about extra loadouts mod and now I need it
for a crusher build
median steeple
How u know i just ran
fork found in kitchen
copper hawk
Wut
copper hawk
https://tenor.com/view/ori-gif-18427357271766220335
copper hawk
You're always running!
Troooooo
spare talon
no thats <@142046391504601088>
opaque island
its weird how last week all my heresy games felt like hi intense stg, and today it felt like low intense malice
hushed agate
Heresy randos are a mixed bag
copper hawk
I kinda wanna troll heresy now w a lasgun
hushed agate
Wym troll
rocky nacelle
you already troll cause u noob
hushed agate
you already troll cause u noob
rocky nacelle
shaddap noob
copper hawk
Bl0x0rz
rocky nacelle
i kill u ez noob so ez kill free
copper hawk
Dont u take the tone w me
white jetty
any suggestions on how this could be improved?
copper hawk
Skullcrusher hammerblow
rocky nacelle
any suggestions on how this could be improved?
skullcrusher
opaque island
thats the thing, its not the players that are better or worse its the spawns
hushed agate
any suggestions on how this could be improved?
Replace thunder strike with skull crusher and replace elites with unyielding
copper hawk
Skullcrusher hammerblow
hushed agate
Guh whats hammerblow again
hushed agate
I forgort
fleet zealot
i think it's the players
copper hawk
It's objectively better trauma
fleet zealot
good players will make it feel like the game is spawning less cause it all gets wiped out
bad players will just have enemies spawn faster than they get killed
copper hawk
It's a buff to you and not a debuff to enemies
It synergizes better with skullcrusher
opaque island
trust me dude, ive played enough i can tell the spawns are different
copper hawk
You stagger crushers and turn them to paste
hushed agate
Personally id want better unyielding for boss killing and bulwark killing
copper hawk
Staggering crushers and ragers mid combo is just nuts
You already deal with bulwarks fine
hushed agate
You already deal with bulwarks fine
You dont understand
copper hawk
You do your special attack and do heavy1 light1 and they die
hushed agate
I want them to suffer more
copper hawk
In like three hits
The crusher w hammerblow and skullcrusher is broken
It struggles only with unyielding with bosses
And even then it does fine
With h1 and l1
Such a lovely weapon
So glad josho turned me on to it
He made a build many moons ago that I stole
It's pawesome
white jetty
I'll swap those blessing on the prior crusher. For this one, do yall think it's worth keeping or should I salvage it for Trauma 4 blessing?
copper hawk
Trauma sucks just mulch it
hushed agate
I'll swap those blessing on the prior crusher. For this one, do yall think it's ...
Good base i guess
copper hawk
HB IV lasts longer and gives you more impact
white jetty
I mean I could just keep it to tinker with for Itemization update
rocky nacelle
just thought about making a crusher bible build then almost fell asleep mid thought
copper hawk
Than Trauma IV
copper hawk
Just keep rolling till u get HB IV and SC IV
fleet zealot
skullcrusher is the only one that matters
copper hawk
The extra impact being able to stagger ragers w h2 out of their combo is pawesome
white jetty
Also, I dont have hammerblow 4, so should I just replace thunderstrike with skullsrucher 4 for now?
acoustic dune
gotta love when the game crash
frosty herald
just thought about making a crusher bible build then almost fell asleep mid thou...
Did you get hit by nightshade poalamu?
copper hawk
If u have sc then yes
rocky nacelle
uh crusher build or whatever
copper hawk
You want an impact + skullcrusher on ur crusher
rocky nacelle
Did you get hit by nightshade poalamu?
yeah the thought of bible stun locking + crusher stun locking
spare talon
an impact that isnt thunderstrike
rocky nacelle
really almost knocked me out
copper hawk
Disdain ?? On the cruncher ??
rocky nacelle
yeah im something of a regard my self
copper hawk
On the Squelcher ?? On the Smoosher ??
frosty herald
I was thinking of doing a shroud crusher build
rocky nacelle
I was thinking of doing a shroud crusher build
forbidden
almost as forbidden as eviscerator shroudfield
frosty herald
But that shit wont work with skullcrusher unless i proc stealth after hitting sumt
copper hawk
royal vortex
purge the unclean isn't very helpful if you already have unyielding rolled on it
rocky nacelle
is it that diminishing
royal vortex
the entire top left side is pretty bad with crusher
you already hit the two-shot h1 block cancel h1 breakpoint on bulwarks with either +20% unyielding damage source
hushed agate
the entire top left side is pretty bad with crusher
Ptu is middle
royal vortex
they were separate comments
royal vortex
retributor's stance is basically a dead node and you should never take it even if the option is a 29 point build
(toughness generation on momentum proc)
open pollen
I feel the only way "random" toughness gain works is if it gives you overtoughness
rocky nacelle
oh wait i took it
gross
auto pilot
I never take that node lmfao
also i think this is better cause i wanna use bolter + crusher
royal vortex
this is normally what i do but u don't need stuff like good balance/desperation
rocky nacelle
open pollen
Because like 90% of the time it procs at full toughness, and 90% of the time you need it, it doesn't proc.
royal vortex
punishment is useless
open pollen
So you've got a very narrow window of value there
rocky nacelle
i use it for the uninterruptible
spare talon
this is my safetymaxxing crusher build
spare talon
if im not using this with crusher, than im doing what josho does
royal vortex
twbs works for objectives
rocky nacelle
this is my safetymaxxing crusher build
ok since I rolled UNYLD on my crusher
ill just go this one
royal vortex
if you're running the crusher you also just like, have the activated heavies for an aoe when grabbing someone and that's as much time as you need unless there's enemies outside melee range in which case punishment is doing nothing
north sedge
uninteruptible does nothing since you have twbs
spare talon
that node should do something else at max stacks
rocky nacelle
that node should do something else at max stacks
let me be able to throw my thunder hammer
spare talon
uninterruptable for 5 seconds realistically only during hordes is fucking dumb
rocky nacelle
yeah cause the horde is gonna be dead in the next 5 seconds anyway
royal vortex
uninterruptible has a couple of action cases that it does work on but having both crusher w/ a forced impact blessing and twbs means ur getting every useful interaction already outside of stuff that occurs so infrequently it would take u like a year to get a single recorded instance of it being worth the point
spare talon
and its like the thing you have the least issues with as zealot
white jetty
uh crusher build or whatever
I'll give it a try thnx
spare talon
dont worry guys im running a chainsword with +groaners +infested
gotta make sure those hordes are under control guys
im helping
gotta make sure i have uninterruptable in there too cuz those hordes sure are hard
rocky nacelle
I'll give it a try thnx
that one sucks
im doing the one cole just posted now
since i realized stun nades are useless
royal vortex
they should go back to 75% headtaker heavy sword with old bulwark stagger thresholds
visual stream
Only buff hammer needs is for IJ to proc on the activation swing mhm mhm
royal vortex
so u can push to open bulwarks again
rocky nacelle
I'll give it a try thnx
coarse birch
no thank you
royal vortex
like vt2 shield rats
coarse birch
i think hsword is doing ok
stable cypress
thats why its called heavy sword
spare talon
this ones mostly cuz im stupid dr fiend
but i think this ones gonna end up being better for players who are trying the weapon out/learning it
cuz soc is busted
white jetty
I was thinking of swapping to fire nades, inexorable judgement is the only thing different from the current build I use w/ crusher. That and a flamer since I don't have a good bolter atm
speaking of, you think this one is decent to build on?
paper harness
Why fire nades
white jetty
they're fun
paper harness
Crusher is all the cc
grizzled aspen
Immolation grenades are indeed fine.
visual stream
It being fun is all the reason you need anyway as long as you carry your own weight
white jetty
been having fun just stun locking groups of ragers and crushers in them lol
grizzled aspen
The only other option that you can really consider is sunstorms, unless you're also running a flamer, for some reason.
Between the two, I'd say immolation grenades are better.
spare talon
fire nades and stun nades kinda fill a similar purpose
which is "i want this group gone" and does it in slightly different ways
but crusher already does both of those easily
grizzled aspen
The big difference is what nodes do you want.
spare talon
it has the damage and cc to just make anything around you just unable to do anything then fucking die
grizzled aspen
Sunstorms have ewew, but immolations have purge the unclean.
white jetty
Might give bolter a try since immo and flamer tend to be redundant at points. might swap surgical for Pinning Fire 4 on this bolter. Think that should make it pretty good.
grizzled aspen
Both are really nice nodes but you have to pick which one you prefer.
north sedge
immo nades will still do work
spare talon
crusher doesnt really have any ideal node that works really well with it
on the top half
north sedge
stun nades are a bit more redundant
north sedge
flesh tearer lacerate?
spare talon
yes
grizzled aspen
Yeah but then you're running blades of faith... again...
spare talon
yeah
grizzled aspen
(please move second wind fatshark I beg you)
Also, I hate whoever designed zealout's tree around the auras.
visual stream
Put second wind right after chorus so you're required to take chorus 
grizzled aspen
3 extra travel nodes before you get to something actually worth taking.
Makes building stuff harder than it has to be.
visual stream
Tbf, it's the strongest or at least one of the strongest TR nodes in the game
grizzled aspen
They could tone it down a bit and make it more accessible.
Drop it to say, 10% and put it where it's not like a 4 point tax to grab.
visual stream
Increase internal cooldown maybe?
rocky nacelle
it has the damage and cc to just make anything around you just unable to do anyt...
smite but good
grizzled aspen
There's a very specific spot that looks perfect for it right at the top of the benediction aura spots.
There's a bland ass passive right there.
Dumpster it for second wind, or dumpster it and move some other talents around.
spare talon
you mean all of them besides SoC?
grizzled aspen
Also, using an autogun with the spread reduction on dodge talent is very nice.
I can just run around like a maniac spraying 4-6 bullets into shooter heads because my spread is nonexistent.
fleet zealot
WHY does it keep rolling torrent missions for terror in the dark
sterile basalt
Yeah but then you're running blades of faith... again...
If ur running Boltgun ur basically stuck with throwing knives
Otherwise ur special sniping is kind of nonexistent
rocky nacelle
also tknives shortcutting bolter/flamer animation
visual stream
Otherwise ur special sniping is kind of nonexistent
The same trapper has already netted two teammates by the time you pull it out
open pollen
Today I learned Bursters can kill you through Until Death
visual stream
Today I learned Bursters can kill you through Until Death
Corruption damage porehap? But then again even corruption damage doesn't kill through UD
Unless they changed it, been a while since corruption has proc'd it for me
open pollen
Nar, I wasn't full corruption anyhow, twas the blast.
Perhaps it works like barrel explosions? The ones that hurt ye through toughness?
visual stream
I'd have to see a clip to even have a guess, I would assume it was a bug though
sterile basalt
Until death caps ur health at 1 and makes u invulnerable to all damage
open pollen
Right, that's what it should do. But during the invulnerability phase a burster killed me
grizzled aspen
If ur running Boltgun ur basically stuck with throwing knives
Smack them in the face with your crusher. If they're too far away, close the distance, and then smack them in the face with your crusher.
On the off chance that they're out of bounds (like a sniper), just pull out your bolter in a safe position and then drop them.
paper harness
and you know what that means!
Real
sterile basalt
Smack them in the face with your crusher. If they're too far away, close the dis...
At that point just do throwing knives lol
You need right side stuff for Boltgun anyway
Dance of death & TWBS
modern lintel
ivory marlin
@spare talon "let-me-solo-nurgle" huh?
spare talon
<@142046391504601088> "let-me-solo-nurgle" huh?
ivory marlin
crazy
spare talon
rocky nacelle
me when I scriers speed boost slide into overhead stabbing the trapper
(it missed and I got netted)
rip the clutch
spare talon
ok so i got manstopper
but is it worth even having fletch on a wp vet double barrel
modern lintel
Flechette for memes scattershot for effect
spare talon
does the bleed also apply to enemies hit further back from the manstopper shot?
cuz im basically already always critting cuz of weapon specialist
fleet zealot
ok so i got manstopper
but is it worth even having fletch on a wp vet double bar...
Lol not at all
the best would literally be manstopper+1
flechette is still funny asf
tho
rocky nacelle
manstopper t4 soon
fleet zealot
but it's just 4 stacks so
modern lintel
Deathspitter also isnt horrible i think
fleet zealot
and i don't think it applies 8 stacks with 2 rmb fire
rocky nacelle
deathspitter is good on DB
fleet zealot
yea if you have waepon spec, deathspitter or both barrels iirc
rocky nacelle
but we want manstopper flechette memes
fleet zealot
but i shall continue doing manstopper flechette cause it's FUNNY
modern lintel
cuz im basically already always critting cuz of weapon specialist
Youll also only guarantee crit if you have 3 melee kills in-between weapon juggle
Mayb 4 even
spare talon
yea if you have waepon spec, deathspitter or both barrels iirc
why both barrels
you literally already have weapon specialist
fleet zealot
why both barrels
you literally already have weapon specialist
i fgorogr
fleet zealot
Youll also only guarantee crit if you have 3 melee kills in-between weapon juggl...
2 with deadshot
and it's 3
you don't need a 4th
modern lintel
Yea but then you have to slow down the juggle to ads
rocky nacelle
we forget both barrels because vets dont use DB
fleet zealot
isn't that the whole point of weapon spec is to jugle
it doesn't have a slow ads
at all
modern lintel
spare talon
rocky nacelle
can we get much higher
spare talon
and it was brought out back and shot
rocky nacelle
so hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh
spare talon
thanks hadron
rocky nacelle
how bad is it
rocky nacelle
modern lintel
I mean its not super bricked
spare talon
its a 1/4
modern lintel
Deathspitter isnt entirly cooked tbh
fleet zealot
i mean
spare talon
id still have to keep something stupid on there
modern lintel
Id still use it
spare talon
i cant decide what melee i wanna use with this
modern lintel
Uncanny mercy knife
spare talon
these are the good vet melees i have
modern lintel
This is what i use idk if the 30% weakspot is hitting any specific breakpoints or doing anything at all but it feels good
modern lintel
For knife
rocky nacelle
just gotta wait for ogryn to have a knife now
modern lintel
god
am i gonna have to swap of survivalist
Yes or be thrown into point purgatory
Could also at the top instead of the middle go down right for sprint efficiency and another +5 to sprint speed
spare talon
This is what i use idk if the 30% weakspot is hitting any specific breakpoints o...
i think im gonna stick with voc
and go krak instead of smoke
ideally id want shredder but thats gonna be to point costly
also going for infiltrate would end up costing too much to what id want to use outside of the ability
modern lintel
Another has fallen to the voc meta 
north sedge
But smokes are so useful (at sucking shit)
modern lintel
Listen we dont use smokes cause we want to
spare talon
ive used infiltrate before
but that was when keystones werent a thing
and the locations of nodes were different
modern lintel
If your using voc id just got the top right inside of middle for more mobility as your p much unkillable w voc and tactical awareness
spare talon
i really would run infiltrate if it didnt cost so much more
obsidian prairie
It doesn’t?
spare talon
not with this build
obsidian prairie
Weil I guess it does because grenade regen
obsidian prairie
But you can get grenades for 1 point with demo team
I could post my weapon spec build in a bit
modern lintel
All zealot are just unwilling incubated vets change my mind
spare talon
*looks inside zealot class*
*sees vet class*
zealot chat has always been every class but more zealot than others chat
quartz silo
Vets using melee are just zealot larpers
spare talon
its LITERALLY FIELD IMPROV
obsidian prairie
You can get grenades from demo team
spare talon
Vets using melee are just zealot larpers
erm
modern lintel
Demolition team is worth it to drop the other nade regen imo
obsidian prairie
Demo team scales well in aurics because of the bullshit spawns
modern lintel
Youll only really want to use kraks for bullwarks and bosses aswell
obsidian prairie
And smokes are quite nice on a build that can’t deal with shooters
spare talon
now with demo team i can only take 2 of the infitrate nodes
obsidian prairie
now with demo team i can only take 2 of the infitrate nodes
You only need 1
Low Profile
modern lintel
now with demo team i can only take 2 of the infitrate nodes
Do dmg and threat lvl
spare talon
Doesn’t change my opinion
my current build on psyker is gunker (melee)
modern lintel
The extra charge one is just if you feel like playing recklessly
spare talon
have you seen how i play
modern lintel
Perchance
spare talon
i play this game like a goblin who just snorted his 5th line of coke this hour
modern lintel
Deadshot 
obsidian prairie
Deadshot <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Agri revolver
modern lintel
O
obsidian prairie
Helps with fan fire against bosses and crushers
Also keeps it accurate
I have a 55% crit on my second shot or something which scales with crucian
modern lintel
I only rlly take demo stockpile w shredder tho as thats the only nade worth hucking recklessly
obsidian prairie
I just need the points
I might switch back seeing as this has fucked me several times
modern lintel
Also toughness node off specialist is good and all but infiltrate also does fully stack your toughness
paper harness
@spare talon babies
modern lintel
Wish zealot stealth had a low profile equivalent
acoustic geyser
Is this a good hammer? If so what should I reroll and change?
modern lintel
Is this a good hammer? If so what should I reroll and change?
Brick central
paper harness
briccked
acoustic geyser
Why?
modern lintel
Bad perks and blessings
acoustic geyser
Dang
obsidian prairie
Slaughterer is ok but it’s also t2
acoustic geyser
Is it good to use while I grind or is it TOTALLY unusable
obsidian prairie
Everything else sucks
acoustic geyser
Dang
obsidian prairie
Is it good to use while I grind or is it TOTALLY unusable
Not really
acoustic geyser
The stats were good too
obsidian prairie
Thammer needs all the help it can get
modern lintel
I mean if its all you have its all you have
obsidian prairie
And that low CC sucks as well
acoustic geyser
Is this one also bricked?
ocean laurel
What is a good hammer role?
spare talon
ok the db seems to be dealing do damage when i need it to
mostly cuz of the camera snap when swapping
acoustic geyser
AWWWWWWWWWWW
modern lintel
First target needs to be as high as possible
obsidian prairie
Bad singletarget, really bad thrust, and a second bad blessing
paper harness
vet weeklies almost done
modern lintel
Hadron takes another one into the abyss
acoustic geyser
I havent played in like 7 months so I guess the first thing I should ask is what hammer is the best?
I have a lot of dockets stockpiled so I can spam brunts armory
modern lintel
Ironhelm for horde crucis for boss delete
acoustic geyser
For Ironhelm what stat percentages should I go for and what thresholds mean a weapon is useless?
visual stream
Is this a good hammer? If so what should I reroll and change?
Replace slaughterer with shock and awe and then critical chance with specialist damage
(it's bricked)
visual stream
For Ironhelm what stat percentages should I go for and what thresholds mean a we...
I would say You want damage, penetration, and first target as high as possible. 70% probably lowest tolerable amount in any one of those
Crowd control is your attack speed which is also decently important
open pollen
Only excuse there is for Ferrus Darksun to exist in the paid shop is that an intern made it and they didn't want to discourage the bab so they "Put it up on the fridge".
north sedge
both hammers want the same thing
acoustic geyser
So something like this one?
visual stream
So something like this one?
Exactly like that
acoustic geyser
WAHOO!
open pollen
both hammers want the same thing
They're twins that dress differently.
visual stream
Defence can be as low as like 10 and it mostly doesn't matter compared to everything else
north sedge
They're twins that dress differently.
open pollen
https://tenor.com/view/sister-sister-dancing-jamming-getting-down-get-down-gif-1...
Crucis and Ironhelm krumpin' a Demonhost.
acoustic geyser
Whats it look like so far?
north sedge
well, better get lucky the next two times
visual stream
Whats it look like so far?
Always roll to purple 💪
Skullcrusher is considered... okay for ironhelm
acoustic geyser
I rolled to gold accidentally
visual stream
Not ideal but you can use it with some other stuff
modern lintel
Cooked
visual stream
I rolled to gold accidentally
Oh it was cooked at purp
north sedge
toast
visual stream
Rip plasteel
acoustic geyser
AWWWWW
acoustic geyser
WHY CANT ANYTHING EVER WORK
north sedge
well hammer is hands down the worst weapon to roll in the game
modern lintel
Hadron is fueled off of your suffering keep in mind
visual stream
WHY CANT ANYTHING EVER WORK
Because hammer has 40 impact blessings and then two blessings that are good 
north sedge
that said they're doing an overhaul on the crafting sometime in the near future....
acoustic geyser
Alright Im just make do with it for now
north sedge
it's gonna feel real bad!
acoustic geyser
that said they're doing an overhaul on the crafting sometime in the near future....
ooh! Really? AWESOME
visual stream
Alright Im just make do with it for now
If you're bent on sticking with that hammer, change one to thrust and one of the perks to flak or unyielding, preferably flak
acoustic geyser
This is what I usually run
visual stream
(thunderstrike to thrust)
obsidian prairie
This is what I usually run
Switch rampage to Deathblow
Also shame about the first target
spare talon
ok so until this double barrel swap camera snap is fixed
im gonna probably use something else
visual stream
ok so until this double barrel swap camera snap is fixed
im gonna probably use s...
It has like two big issues with the camera and shot registration
I could get over it for a while but it slowly gets more tiring
modern lintel
ok so until this double barrel swap camera snap is fixed
im gonna probably use s...
I was having this issue for a while then it just stopped one day
spare talon
i just gotta find out what i want
acoustic geyser
Okay, I swapped the stuff
modern lintel
Boltpistol psword moment
visual stream
ok so until this double barrel swap camera snap is fixed
im gonna probably use s...
Recon lasgun :^)
spare talon
if im using the agri i might as well just use the zarona
modern lintel
Boltpistol is as good as it can possibly be on vet
obsidian prairie
It can crusher oneshot
modern lintel
spare talon
GOD
why have i devolved to a fucking knife build on every class
and why do i slay out much better with the,
fleet zealot
GOD
why have i devolved to a fucking knife build on every class
and why do i sla...
yaasss epic_cole
slay king
👑
spare talon
spare talon
It can crusher oneshot
with what kind of build on it
spare talon
opinion discarded
i hate MF stance
fleet zealot
i hate having to bring a flashlight
spare talon
the sad part is
i think the literal best weapon for what i need it for on weapon spec
is a plasma gun
obsidian prairie
Ew
spare talon
i need something to swap to that can be a "fuck you" button to whatever is in front of me for a single shot
ivory marlin
guys
spare talon
and DB is just not doing it for me
ivory marlin
rinda a bitch
obsidian prairie
i need something to swap to that can be a "fuck you" button to whatever is in fr...
Revolver
Can dome maulers
ivory marlin
she jumped me
spare talon
yeah but one for more than 1 enemy
spare talon
i have a decent one tho
but im going to look like an absolute fucking monkey
obsidian prairie
If you want one for this go Volatile and anything but gets hot
spare talon
like literally every single thing that people hate about vets
all rolled into one
voc, plasma, knife
obsidian prairie
Gets hot is sad because its kinda wasted with your ability to confirm crits
spare talon
if i ever need to shoot it more than once then it starts being useful
im really sad that wep specialists is only crit chance on the ranged weapon for the first shot
cuz after playing gunker (melee) i now see the appeal of iags, and id use one on this build
obsidian prairie
Just run keystoneless or tag for IAG's, only low mag stuff benefits from weapon spec
ivory marlin
something tells me i should try out an ax
spare talon
but the melee part of wep specialist is probably the main reason i use it
polar nexus
as you can see heavies on taxes handles flak better than unarmored
ivory marlin
something tells me i should try out an ax
here are the other things hes selling
another ax
polar nexus
i would say the optimal setup would be to go flak / unarmored if you care about horde clearing
and find a to get crits (so, piety + scourge + shred or even headtaker) ; alternatively crit + momentum/martyrdom + headtaker/shreds should help you get access to those OS BP as well => i would start any engagement with dash + heavies
ivory marlin
uh
coarse birch
i would say the optimal setup would be to go flak / unarmored if you care about ...
ok thats kinda what i guessed, ive only really used mk4 whcih i dont need to worry about proccing BM on so i just went flak maniac and HT shred
spare talon
rolled one on a whim cuz i didnt have an agrip on vet
polar nexus
ok thats kinda what i guessed, ive only really used mk4 whcih i dont need to wor...
yeah this is why i use All or nothing + headtaker + desperation on the 7
obsidian prairie
rolled one on a whim cuz i didnt have an agrip on vet
Damn nice
hushed knoll
yeah this is why i use All or nothing + headtaker + desperation on the 7
Hello Keet 
obsidian prairie
Mine has fucked stats and stamina locked as a perk
spare talon
Mine has fucked stats and stamina locked as a perk
im not sure if i should make this one a bog standard crucian HC roll
obsidian prairie
What I run
obsidian prairie
The generic combo can one fan crushers on average
spare talon
also this entire time
the only weapon that has HC4 is the one on my zealot
the one im not getting rid of
i have like 20 others from mission rewards with hc3
obsidian prairie
The generic combo can one fan crushers on average
I think you need 3-4 crits though
spare talon
well the first ones a crit always
tired kindle
did you solve this its happening to me
ivory marlin
i wish that was me fr fr
gimp mask no clothes?
acoustic dune
gimp mask no clothes?
no clothe
ivory marlin
real
acoustic dune
gimp mask was a bonus
anyhow i drew murdoc
well its actually more like murdrip
wanna see?
ivory marlin
yeah id be down
obsidian prairie
First brunts roll
spare talon
I think you need 3-4 crits though
ehhh even tho the agrip has insane unyielding
im probably gonna swap flak to carapace
i mean i literally have a knife, and i am kinda shocked how much the melee boosts are adding up for its damage
obsidian prairie
I weep
spare talon
also its fucking crazy how much more chill aurics are as a vet
modern lintel
ehhh even tho the agrip has insane unyielding
im probably gonna swap flak to car...
Yes good finally vet knife pilled
obsidian prairie
3rd roll
spare talon
like other classes you have to put much more effort in to stay alive but im out here eating rager attacks for like 30 seconds and i notice ive only taken 2 hp damage
obsidian prairie
VoC moment
ivory marlin
rizz
modern lintel
ehhh even tho the agrip has insane unyielding
im probably gonna swap flak to car...
Also this is why the db works imo i use it for horde and elite clear knife stay for big stuff and why kraks arent super needed
ivory marlin
yeah
obsidian prairie
Zealots I fucking swear
spare talon
crits are good, havent you heard?
royal vortex
momentum instead of bloodthirsty this dude isnt even trying
north sedge
Meh
still quartz
Y'all act like Momentum is shit but just wait until he's forced to clutch and is not able to regenerate while out of Coherency
Everyone acts like you gotta be prepped to clutch at every second anyway, I don't see the big deal
royal vortex
true there's no way to regenerate toughness from the talent tree
still quartz
As if that's enough, assuming they're playing godlike perfect and isn't being pelted at by Shooters on every corner
royal vortex
true zealot has no ults that nullify ranged enemies for their duration
still quartz
Damn it's like there's no Coolodown system in place or something
royal vortex
this is such a weird argument u absolutely do not need momentum to survive ranged damage
still quartz
???
I'm not saying it's to survive just Ranged damage, I'm saying that it's going to make clutching so much easier
They already nerfed Crit CDR so it's not instantly refreshing the dash
royal vortex
u didn't need either to solo clutch
in a lot of cases the enemy with the lowest effect on solo situations is hordes anyways and the problem comes from disablers
spare talon
god
still quartz
It's still not a "dead Blessing lol"
I thought Toughness Regen is good in any case
Infinite effective HP
royal vortex
i never said any of that
tacit bone
If you using heavy evis, your chance to clutch is pretty fking low, so dont bother momemtum
royal vortex
the original point was making a joke
still quartz
Fine I'll take the L
spare talon
Fine I'll take the L
is that a fortnite reference
still quartz
If you using heavy evis, your chance to clutch is pretty fking low, so dont both...
Considering its wide swings I think it's actually pretty decent to clutch with but yes
Josho said the main problem is Disablers
royal vortex
u have to have some absolutely fucking awful mobility for a weapon to have issues when solo which is 95% just ogryn weapons
still quartz
It's one of Zealot's only weapons that really slow movement speed when swinging, no?
visual stream
can we get a shredder nerf
still quartz
You still have a good Dodge limit of 4 assuming your Mobility stat isn't low though
visual stream
That's what we need
royal vortex
ur main mode of movement mid-swing is p much always dodging/sliding
still quartz
I swear dodge sliding is still underutilized
royal vortex
it's pretty bad in a lot of scenarios since it eats double the dodge count
spare talon
i personally think momentum is fine on the mk15 evis IF you arent taking any on crit effects in the skill tree
like yeah you could definitely do better but like
at least youre not using savage sweep
still quartz
It still displaces your hitbox and can move you out further than usual
royal vortex
movement is secondary to entering the dodge state a lot of the time
tacit bone
The problem mk15 heavy evis is that you only deal damage 4 enemies, you can stagger 7-8 but only 4 taking damage
still quartz
Yeah you still don't want to end up surrounded on all sides and you can't dodge anyway kek
still quartz
The problem mk15 heavy evis is that you only deal damage 4 enemies, you can stag...
7-8 staggered = 7-8 actively not attacking you
royal vortex
that's way less of a mechanical error than it is positioning
still quartz
Staggered =/= Dead, but Staggered = not able to hit you anyway
royal vortex
speed does fairly little to determine if you're surrounded because most enemies are comically slow
fairly certain you should still be able to out-walk poxwalkers
still quartz
I'm pretty sure you can't
Someone test that for me
I'm not running that Enemy Spawner mod
royal vortex
if you turn and walk away from a poxwalker i don't think it ever catches you
still quartz
I've seen people try to outrun Groaners and it has not ended well
At least with pure Sprint
royal vortex
maybe if u sprint into a solid object
i don't think you can out-walk groaners now because they got like a 20%-ish speed bump
and dreg ragers had their attack chains sped up so now they lunge faster
still quartz
Thank god they made Rager attacks dodgeable
spare talon
still quartz
I always thought it was a skill issue until they changed it
obsidian ore
Thank god they made Rager attacks dodgeable
with the bonus ability to kill you faster if they catch you lackin, I love it
obsidian ore
poxwalkers have an insane lunge range
spare talon
So you *can't* outwalk Poxwalkers?
realistically no
spare talon
like they can still nick you just a little bit
still quartz
Now I'll wallow in a corner
obsidian ore
you can outrun them on zealot tho
still quartz
Basically yeah they suck shit at hitting you anyway
royal vortex
or u just have like a 5 meter further lead instead of letting them sit in the slots zone
still quartz
But if they're too far how can I smack them with the funny stick
coarse birch
yeah generally the only time i get caught in the back by a poxwalker is if i was right up against a bunch and try to just turn around and run away
royal vortex
i have never been hit by poxwalkers ever
royal vortex
y'roue*
still quartz
Damn dude you must be in the hall of fame or something
When they finally construct one, that is
modern lintel
John darktide even
royal vortex
i am exclusively kiled by poxbursters who change direction mid lunge
still quartz
John Warhammer 40k
obsidian prairie
YES
royal vortex
i had one really funny case where a poxburster jumped at me and mankar down a staircase around a corner and course corrected to point at us at the end of the arc
royal vortex
so we only saw like half a second before detonation and we both tried to push and it simply did not work
still quartz
i had one really funny case where a poxburster jumped at me and mankar down a st...
I'm starting to think that's actually just a netcode problem
grizzled aspen
(it changes reload speed to infested damage)
coarse birch
poxburster targetting is just kinda jank
obsidian prairie
(it changes reload speed to infested damage)
Thats fine I didn't want reload
coarse birch
ive had them swap targets off me to a downed guy
royal vortex
they can't ever make poxbursters work normal
still quartz
Either that or both of you pushed it and it ended up eating your pushes together and just negated it cause fuck you
royal vortex
ive had them swap targets off me to a downed guy
enemies should literally never target downed players and should dump aggro the moment they do
it results in absolutely mind numbingly stupid scenarios
coarse birch
yeah its kinda lame
still quartz
enemies should literally never target downed players and should dump aggro the m...
That's a mechanic they kept from Vermintide
And I agree
coarse birch
like if you want me to fight through shit to get to a downed guy sure ig but just make it poxwalkers or something
royal vortex
"this crusher overhead won't hit me because it's swinging at a different dude" shockwave. dead.
still quartz
It's stupid
royal vortex
poxburster jumps outside of your push range because it's targeting a downed dude next to you. dead.
3 bomber grenades on top of downed guy immediately
still quartz
It's worse in Vermintide cause the enemies can just kill a downed player super early in high difficulties
You can't even do a revive
They're fuckin dead
royal vortex
i mean the same happens in dt
still quartz
DT takes a while longer but with the amount of shit flying about, yeah you're right
royal vortex
unless ur playin with the dudes who can't handle poxwalkers
still quartz
God you'd be surprised what I see in regular Damnation...
I can ALMOST argue it's just as bad as Heresy
almost
royal vortex
playing duos sucks because the times when u go down is when there's like 8 million fkin enemies on the screen
still quartz
But more competent players appear
royal vortex
and they will refuse to change targets so you have 1/3rd of the time window you should have to revive someone
and then u have to subject them to 7 mins of spectator cam that has a 50/50 on ending because the game breaks and does something it shouldnt or not
still quartz
Or they move them 20 lightyears away for no reason
polar nexus
and then u have to subject them to 7 mins of spectator cam that has a 50/50 on e...
NET!
royal vortex
@coarse birch never forget the trapper who shot me through the staircase above
i've never been more disrespected
royal vortex
play brainburst for the first time in half a year
still quartz
Game had to exploit to kill you
coarse birch
cause the flamer squad showed up
royal vortex
instantly smited
still quartz
That's honestly a compliment
coarse birch
that entire night was cursed
royal vortex
i've had too many duo runs end because i get trapped through an object that a net cannot pass through
frozen glen
the only infinite cleave projectile left in the game
obsidian ore
i've had too many duo runs end because i get trapped through an object that a ne...
even my plasma gun fully charged struggles with some of the walls trappers seem to get you through lmao
polar nexus
i had an out of memory crash just in front of the rez spawn
the last one, just before the end event (doing duos)
royal vortex
the last one, just before the end event (doing duos)
i love game crashes adding like 10mins to a run because ur not fucked enough to lose but it takes forever to recover
(comms plex mid event moment)
obsidian ore
Fuck this one's basically bricked
frozen glen
i love game crashes adding like 10mins to a run because ur not fucked enough to ...
buy an nvme
buy a 120hz monitor while ur at it
still quartz
Aw dang it
royal vortex
no
coarse birch
you dont control me
frozen glen
arco with his runescape graphics and josho with his crt monitor
royal vortex
i did my one setup change for the year because i finally stopped using a desk that has been falling apart for millennia
coarse birch
apparently the key to being obscenely good at DT is cursed setups
royal vortex
if u acquire them all u become the legendary flesh tearer lacerate
coarse birch
you trusted a desk that was falling apart to hold your expensive equipment
royal vortex
u must venture to the mountains of doom and recover the lost jsat foot pedals
coarse birch
theres no chance in hell i would do that
royal vortex
you trusted a desk that was falling apart to hold your expensive equipment
it was partially to hide the shame of putting a hole in the wall underneath it
still quartz
Y'all should I even put the Flak Damage or can I ball and do some funny shit like Unyielding
royal vortex
but that's a story for another time
ornate bone
Me having an idle pose with a shoulder slightly upwards because I use a repurposed kitchen table instead of a desk
still quartz
Or even Carapace at this point
coarse birch
couldnt you get another desk that covers it
also i think i heard the hole in the wall story
royal vortex
none of the desks cover a hole in the wall that low
polar nexus
Y'all should I even put the Flak Damage or can I ball and do some funny shit lik...
carpace or unyielding
you'll be killing flak fast enough
polar nexus
cracpace
still quartz
cocainum
royal vortex
fixing the hole would be the next best option ig
it's kind of like postpostpostmodern art
still quartz
Yeah I'll run Carapace so Crushers stop being a big issue
coarse birch
you literally used a broken desk to hide it
still quartz
They're still a slightly-less-than-big issue
royal vortex
the chair was doing more of the hiding than anything
still quartz
I'm sure my 3 other teammates can handle it
coarse birch
then why did the desk need to stay
coarse birch
was it attached
ornate bone
today I think I will
coarse birch
are you in a 1980s class room
ornate bone
dark some tides
royal vortex
i do not possess that many chairs
coarse birch
replacing the chair requires more chairs than keeping the working chair with the new desk
assuming said chair worked
royal vortex
in other news this hot and spicy chicken ramen funyun tasted about as i expected
more at 9
frozen glen
what is going on
royal vortex
what
coarse birch
huh
royal vortex
?
coarse birch
!
royal vortex
i feel like that aside was self contained
like u got the info u needed for the conclusion
what could possibly be confusing about it
coarse birch
i wasnt confused about the funyun
frozen glen
can we just kill josho
coarse birch
yeah i can see it on my screen i just didnt reply to the message
cause i was expecting the next message you sent to be related
royal vortex
looked fairly stationary to me
spare talon
what does a stationary conversation even mean
its when josho is talking to himself
coarse birch
we werent at the end of said conversation
royal vortex
i dont feel like the hot and spicy chicken ramen flavor is really conveyed well through the form of funyuns
coarse birch
we can be if you want to be
obsidian prairie
Zealots I swear
spare talon
funyuns are so weird