I guess I should be using the zarona with the mk15? since it sounds like the mk15 is kinda general purpose, leaning towards single target damage?
#zealot-class
stuck dagger
misty nova
Now that's one of the problem with the 15, you don't really know what to pair it with
The Zarona is decent for killing the trapper when you're in the horde
spare dome
This is what I don't get, cause I played nothing but Helldives and Super Helldives today and every mission was a win and we only failed one extraction on a Blitz map where we dropped in on three Stalker nests. Still a win.
obsidian prairie
The Zarona is decent for killing the trapper when you're in the horde
So are knives
Knives are great
Take whatever gun you want
acoustic dune
This is what I don't get, cause I played nothing but Helldives and Super Helldiv...
i desperately hope helldiver give more buff#
and less invisible wall
misty nova
I usually pair the 15 with some good anti ranged duty
north sedge
What
spare dome
Meanwhile all I hear on most of the public boards is how unusable and difficult and overwhelming and how limited options are and it's like damn, sure wish I was playing that game, where apparently things are still hard to figure out.
acoustic dune
and work on the networking where i stop getting kick randomly
spare talon
Wdym
I was referring to the evis
acoustic dune
Wdym
I was referring to the evis
someone said crusher
spare talon
.
acoustic dune
so i was thinking a zealot just holding a crusher with one hand
north sedge
i think bug 10 is legitmately hard, but nowhere near insurmountable
acoustic dune
the image feel funny
spare dome
Other than every Brood Commander being an Alpha Commander, neither me nor my buddy really notice a difference on tens tbh
acoustic dune
i think bug 10 is legitmately hard, but nowhere near insurmountable
sometime i despise bots
wraith cipher
This is what I don't get, cause I played nothing but Helldives and Super Helldiv...
i dont like the game's balancing philosophy , thats it
north sedge
what's the game's balancing philosophy?
wraith cipher
side grades
spare dome
PoI default enemies is deffo noticable tho.
But like they just sit there waiting for you to blow their shit apart lol
acoustic dune
what's the game's balancing philosophy?
the scout striver give me conniption
why does it need to take 5 shot to go down
north sedge
5 shots of what
acoustic dune
5 shots of what
eruptor
north sedge
what
acoustic dune
the new bot enemy
acoustic dune
the rocket strider?
yeah
acoustic dune
normally i aim for its DICK
royal vortex
the scout striver give me conniption
kid named anti materiel rifle
north sedge
that too
north sedge
yes the rocket striders are beefier
acoustic dune
i need to mag dump on them
north sedge
so they added a bit harder variant and that's....bad?
acoustic dune
with a eroptor
spare dome
They still drop like pinatas to a single impact nade
royal vortex
u can also shoot the leg joint with any 3 ap weapon and get identical bps as on a standard scout strider
spare dome
Railgun also great for striders
royal vortex
so in my experience theyre essentially not any tankier
spare talon
Why don't crotches also count as weakpoints
Unrealistic game
spare dome
Crotches do actually
north sedge
yes railgun is eating better now on bots
acoustic dune
Why don't crotches also count as weakpoints
Unrealistic game
whats unrealisttic is only letting them to shoot throught floors
obsidian prairie
Why don't crotches also count as weakpoints
Unrealistic game
You think any of our enemies still have balls to speak of?
acoustic dune
i aint getting off a hill if ik they are waiting for me down there
north sedge
shoot and or throw shit, the variants are meant to be a bit different / a bit harder
that's not a problem with the game
just adjust
royal vortex
i am not a fan of this balancing philosophy where sometimes i die
highly unrealistic as i am good at videogames
acoustic dune
please let other weapon be more useful
acoustic dune
funny
i dont want to always use the autocanon to deal with bots
i wanna play with smth else
obsidian prairie
AMR
royal vortex
hmg
spare dome
I'm still rocked when I was briefly exposed to a tier list by YouTube autoplay that said Tenderizer needed 'massive buffs' to be useable when the gun is a fucking powerhouse actually.
royal vortex
spear
north sedge
there are so many useful weapons
obsidian prairie
I will no longer get scrongled by an explosion that dealt 5 points damage
acoustic dune
there are so many useful weapons
when will the splash rocket be useful?
north sedge
(eruptor is fine on bots)
spare dome
HMG on an acid rain map can kill pretty much everything in a mag.
north sedge
splash rocket?
north sedge
the airburst rocket?
obsidian prairie
Its a backpack full of clusters
acoustic dune
it's fine for clearing chaff, it's its purpose
theres other strategem that work better then the thing
obsidian prairie
theres other strategem that work better then the thing
Yeah but its an instant fire and forget fuck you to anything with medium armor or below
acoustic dune
that's gonna happen when there's multiple options?
then why have it at all
north sedge
because different options are fun?
spare dome
You don't actually enjoy having choice do you.
royal vortex
does anyone
spare dome
Freedom from choice, vote for me and I'll decide everything for you.
acoustic dune
so use the other loadouts
it aint viable
north sedge
what if i told you...it was
royal vortex
i try to select other stratagems and the game forces me back to autocannon
obsidian prairie
I love HMG turret
obsidian prairie
You should too
acoustic dune
You should too
yeah no that i agree
spare talon
education systems have failed
north sedge
like everytime people bring up balance i have to ask why, because reality and perception are wildly different
spare dome
Again, I wish I was playing this hypothetical game where the difficulty is so high that your choices are strictly limited.
Because I ran a comical variety of shit today and we never experienced a loss and I only once found the sum total of my loadout to be lacking (kid named bile spewers)
obsidian prairie
Which kind
spare dome
And it didn't matter cause I had three other teammates who weren't utterly braindead and running a carbon copy of each other's loadouts
north sedge
the reality is there's a variety of tools to pick from, partially for preference and partially to fill a niche in the team
obsidian prairie
Yellows are fine because big iron but green spewers can fucking die
spare dome
The green ones yeah.
north sedge
fair
spare dome
Was a bad time to bring the Punisher shotgun and a Spear. I had fuck all to manage them and just backlined the entire match.
spare dome
It's pretty obnoxious. Also fix the vom vfx please holy shit.
royal vortex
u stop looking for them for 10 sec and theres 4 on ur ass
every time
that or two impalers
north sedge
i whisper a low inaudible vomit as i undress the skin from your bones
obsidian prairie
Oh yeah how are impalers after their glow up
spare dome
I don't hate the impalers but I gotta say their visiblity compared to the first game is absolutely miserable.
north sedge
they can be pretty rough at times
spare dome
And that was a game where they spawnd offscreen lmao
north sedge
depending on how they're positioned
obsidian prairie
I don't hate the impalers but I gotta say their visiblity compared to the first ...
Oh can you no longer triangulate them
north sedge
basically if one is up you gotta try to kill it
obsidian prairie
Damn
spare dome
There's just no directional indication at all yeah
obsidian prairie
That was really good design in the first
spare dome
And you really can't see shit on most maps and against bugs in general.
obsidian prairie
You could always find the damn thing
spare dome
Fart spewers fog the place up and corrosive chargers also do now too
north sedge
it varies, they are very big, so if you have los it's not hard to pick out
but yes spore charger can mask em
spare dome
And their range is 70m I believe.
north sedge
if it's from a breach they usually dont stray far from that
if they mosey on over from elsewhere where things can get surprising
spare dome
They seem to only start once they get 50m from you but once they anchor down they go much further.
obsidian prairie
Alright counterpoint to the visibility argument: 380mm barrage
north sedge
i dont mind visibility stuff, just acknowledging that sometimes picking out the impaler can be rough depending on what's happening
spare dome
Tbh even in a clear environment they tend to just look like a fucken rock
crisp furnace
20m today
spare dome
Their face should be much brighter when exposed. Imo anyway
drifting wolf
how's flamethrower now, aside from them changing the cool napalm beam vfx to shoot generic fire now
red swift
No armor pen dogshit
north sedge
completely and utterly unusable (seems fine from what i saw)
spare dome
Still good. I don't care for em personally but they remain strong.
fleet zealot
how's flamethrower now, aside from them changing the cool napalm beam vfx to sho...
it melts everything besides crushers
spare dome
One grenade pistol to a leg moving forward, armor breaks, can still cook.
fleet zealot
it's niche but it's a good niche
north sedge
talking hd2 flamethrower
spare dome
ew grass
spare talon
talking hd2 flamethrower
It melts everything besides crushers
red swift
One big reason why you take it is for crushers. Now you need another stratagem for anti armor it feels bad
north sedge
it was never meant to be anti armor
north sedge
and uh, there are so many anti armor options
red swift
Right. back to recoiless and EAT it is.
fleet zealot
anyways i'm going to ignore everyone and talk about dt flamethrower. it kinda forces you to take throwing knives if you are playing pubs so you can take out specialists at a range
EAT SPAM
spare talon
why don't you go dive into some grass
What's grass
This is unrelated to helldivers ive not played it since march
fleet zealot
i LOVE EAT SPAM in HD2
spare dome
Or just pack rocket pods
ivory marlin
Epic cole more like epic mole
sinful widget
erm
spare dome
It's an incredibly trivial nerf.
fleet zealot
i LOVE how i fucking sucked being brought along with friends cause i spent my starting resources ON an automated turret INSTEAD OF EATS
ornate bone
sinful widget
what are the best blessings for the hswords?
red swift
I think the Darktide flamethrower is pretty busted, on par with plasma gun to be honest if used with a knife builds.
spare talon
what are the best blessings for the hswords?
Deathblow headtaker
fleet zealot
I SHOULd've KNOWN the only way i can contribute in the top half of difficulties is IF I SPAMMED EATs
sinful widget
i see
fleet zealot
I think the Darktide flamethrower is pretty busted, on par with plasma gun to be...
ok slow down there
spare talon
Rampage is fine but the other two are just better
north sedge
eats are fine but i think are weirdly overvalued
red swift
eat has been top forever
fleet zealot
flamethrower is... niche
spare dome
Commando kinda took over
fleet zealot
plasma isn't
spare dome
EATs still good tho
spare talon
So don't worry if you get rampage instead of one of those two main ones
fleet zealot
eats are fine but i think are weirdly overvalued
yea cause it's the only thing you got early
red swift
Flamethrower clears rooms by holding down the funny mouse buttons
fleet zealot
like maybe it's partially my fault/my friend's fault for taking me into higher diffs without telling me what I should get
ivory marlin
So don't worry if you get rampage instead of one of those two main ones
Cole would you rather at gun point use lacerate knife or flamer non-ads only
fleet zealot
but the starting loadout feels SO shit as soon as big armored stuff starts spawning
north sedge
eat/commando are nice if you need your backpack slot for something, but people weirdly think recoiless is bad even though it's the same dmg and you have more ammo
fleet zealot
"Oh just go EATs" YEA now i know that
red swift
atleast fatshark doesn't impulse nerf all the good weapons and make them trash tier
fleet zealot
Flamethrower clears rooms by holding down the funny mouse buttons
it still has a range limitation, can't burst down enemies like a CIAG or similar can.
spare dome
Two months is impulse? Lol
north sedge
what impulse
spare dome
Anyway can't wait for the revolver nerf.
north sedge
railgun was definitely not "impulse" lol
fleet zealot
atleast fatshark doesn't impulse nerf all the good weapons and make them trash t...
actually power sword, evis, and flamer is fucking DEAD fatshark nerfed them too hard literally unplayable /j
red swift
it was from a bug they patched
fleet zealot
BM rework is a nerf too /joke
red swift
evis is pretty mid imo
fleet zealot
evis is good it's not top tier but it functions, just needs to stop being forced as a crit weapon
since it doesn't have high finesse
north sedge
it's interesting that people piss and cry about nerfs in hd2 when overwhelmingly the changes for the past couple months have been buffs
red swift
I see it as just worse chainsword
fleet zealot
only thing i think is unjustifiable nerf is shredder being this bad post nerf for so long
bolter's issue can be fixed up by releasing variants and tuning the damn thing properly, with 3 different variants you can bend to 3 different playstyles/uses
red swift
hmmm today I will spend 3 whole seconds shredding this crusher. Surely nothing will go wrong.
fleet zealot
I see it as just worse chainsword
chsword can't do armor or unyielding as good as Evi
misty nova
red swift
the newer chainsword can one shot carapace with damage stacks
fleet zealot
rampage+cleave blessing or rampage+shred
fleet zealot
everything can oneshot crushers on the veteran tree
drifting wolf
that slugger nerf pissed me off brah
they changed the slugger so that it has the ability to easily stagger again, it's just no longer a sniper shotgun but is still effective at medium ranges
so like, a slug shotgun
spare talon
Cole would you rather at gun point use lacerate knife or flamer non-ads only
I'd rather leave the match
ivory marlin
Nah you are at gunpoint irl
fleet zealot
you can stack so many bonuses as veteran and you get most of the game oneshotting crushers but that's it's own discussion
north sedge
just because a gun is stronger than another doesnt mean it's unusable
ornate bone
I don't think this icon in the game is kinda right if you glance at it
red swift
zealot at well
fleet zealot
anyways, while chsword is the current king of raw horde clear, it quickly falls off when you start introducing thicker enemies, bruisers, maulers, ragers. MK2 evi does not, and the mk15 well, it's going to do the same brainless thing
spare talon
Nah you are at gunpoint irl
I'd rather leave the match irl
ivory marlin
Real
fleet zealot
chsword is not just a better evi, evi is more niche because it's a specific class weapon
red swift
?
fleet zealot
you have it very backward
red swift
you have weird takes brah
north sedge
chsword has better horde clear, evisc deals with elites better
fleet zealot
you have weird takes brah
chsword has the fastest groaner/poxwalker kill times in the game
misty nova
My honest no crit fall off on chsword reaction
red swift
how many enemies is it cleaving and hitting compared to eviscerator though
and how often
red swift
TRUE it's a based weapon isnt it
fleet zealot
doesn't matter, chsword crit damage doesn't fall off with cleave
red swift
newer chainsword especially
fleet zealot
evi will start catching up the thicker the horde gets, throwing in bruisers
mk4 chsword is king, pretty sure what, it has horde clear time of 11 to 13 seconds?
mk4 chaxe has a clear time of 40 seconds or soemthing where is exhillious's graph
red swift
where you gettin these numbers chief
fleet zealot
where you gettin these numbers chief
i'm pulling it up, patient is a virtue kindred
red swift
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
obsidian prairie
Exhilous’s extreme testing
fleet zealot
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
crusher info would be outdated
misty nova
Lmfao the light spam
fleet zealot
why is precog knife taking 100 seconds
look at the combo
it's spamming lights with mk3
red swift
yeah
fleet zealot
(PA is just that much better)
red swift
what's pa
fleet zealot
push attack
red swift
I mean are they using the keep swinging mod
and what class
are they actually dodging?
misty nova
And bc would be Block Cancel?
fleet zealot
zealot
north sedge
he tested different combos
fleet zealot
And bc would be Block Cancel?
yes
fleet zealot
are they actually dodging?
yes
north sedge
so multiple entries for knife
misty nova
Hah, SA L1 Evis15, I've been doing that for a long time 
fleet zealot
I mean are they using the keep swinging mod
doesn't matter does it?
it does need some grains of salt, quite a bit of the weapons that are slower, will not be impacted nearly as much when you start introducing higher tier enemies
red swift
I'd say it matters quite a bit
fleet zealot
dclaws and chswords will start getting stuck the higher tier enemies
north sedge
🤔
fleet zealot
I'd say it matters quite a bit
why? the attack combo is listed
north sedge
it was a complex algorithmic process (loading up psykanium and hitting things)
fleet zealot
@ripe quest we the kindred demand a new pox100 graph
modded psykanium, it's 100 active poxwalkers
fleet zealot
it's an mk3 you are lightspamming
north sedge
with nothing but lights
fleet zealot
not weaving PAs
fleet zealot
see how quickly it drops down when you actually use combos or use the horde clear specialized knife
fleet zealot
I hold down keep swinging for my games
exhillious is not paralyzed and is fully capable of clicking at full speed
opaque island
which evisc is the first one they released again
fleet zealot
as far as I know
north sedge
mk2
fleet zealot
which evisc is the first one they released again
mk2 og
spiral anvil
Push attack should kill multiple per stab
opaque island
mk2 og
yea boi, is the combo used in this table considered the best horde clear combo for the weapon? also what does SA stand for, special attack?
fleet zealot
yea boi, is the combo used in this table considered the best horde clear combo f...
special action
misty nova
He uses it for bloodletter
fleet zealot
since some SAs aren't attacks, they are activations,
opaque island
special action
would it be a pain in the ass to ask to try the combo i usually use, which is H1, l2, l3, PA
misty nova
6 stacks at t4
fleet zealot
would it be a pain in the ass to ask to try the combo i usually use, which is H1...
idk ask exhillious
opaque island
im getting ready to go to bed or i would
misty nova
Bloodletter Bloodthirsty Scourge for 8 stacks
fleet zealot
you think i'd bother testing this? I use chaxe, looking at this graph gives me depression
misty nova
opaque island
you think i'd bother testing this? I use chaxe, looking at this graph gives me d...
Chaxe is supposed to be a single target big damage weapon and not a horde clear anyway isnt it?
fleet zealot
i just gotta breathe, and cope with "i don't fall off vs armor" and "I can bully rager and mauler packs"
fleet zealot
Chaxe is supposed to be a single target big damage weapon and not a horde clear...
yes
red swift
Older Chainaxe is the most based weapon
fleet zealot
it also barely falls off in damage and risk factor when you start going into higher tier enemies
spiral anvil
New Chaxe is fine vs horde if I'm playing weaponspec vet 
merry flume
good thing i have three other teammates killing things with me
fleet zealot
hammer of faith+ punishment and we are back to pre-nerf punishment levels of absolutely bullying elites with mk4 chaxe
mk12 chaxe is easy but i don't like it
not having a heavy stagger PA sweep, instead it's a stab
no heavy sweeps at all so you can get fucked if surrounded/cornered
red swift
I think new chaxe is just worse new chainsword
fleet zealot
chaxe and chsword is like comparing dclaw to rashad
fleet zealot
Ok maybe not super good but pretty good
? ehehh
when you have such a good H1
why do you need a stab PA tbh
spiral anvil
It's fast
fleet zealot
you could swap mk4 and mk12 PAs and honestly it would round out both their kits better
red swift
better mobility, hits the breakpoints with proper build, comparable horde clear
spiral anvil
When you are fighting 6 shotgunners
ornate bone
chain chaxe
spiral anvil
You don't have time to rev
fleet zealot
better mobility, hits the breakpoints with proper build, comparable horde clear
"comparable"
red swift
wym
north sedge
chaxe hits way way way harder on rev than chsword
fleet zealot
fastest chaxe clear, 40 seconds. slowest chswor d horde clear 20 seconds
red swift
yes but they both kill most things in 1 hit regarless
fleet zealot
they are two different weapons
red swift
But chaxe should be the stronger weapon with its middling mobility
fleet zealot
no lol chswords need help with maulers and up, and generally do less damage overall,
fleet zealot
evi and chaxe both hit much harder on rev but have less horde clear and are slower
north sedge
chaxe is way stronger on rev, especially into cara, chsword isnt even touching that
red swift
newer chainsword can one shot crusher
fleet zealot
like i said chaxe vs chsword is basically dclaw vs rashad, imo besides the rev function they aren't comparable
red swift
LMAO STOP REACTING
fleet zealot
it's not about can, it's about reliability and ease of access
red swift
not to mention
north sedge
how are you reaching a crusher one shot with chsword
north sedge
chaxe can just...do it
fleet zealot
yea lmao, chaxe just does it
opaque island
thats CHaxe whole job
north sedge
no
fleet zealot
the shred form chainsword comes out faster
and that can be adjusted with attack speed
north sedge
chaxe can just do it standing still, no buffs
red swift
chainsword will be taking the same atk speed talents
fleet zealot
slower weapons get more numerical benefit from % attacks speed
chsword is already fast
it's numerical benefit is less
red swift
I'm not sure that matters too much though
fleet zealot
mk4 chaxe can light spam for single target dps
and that's faster than chsword for sure
red swift
im talking the newer chain axe
fleet zealot
since it's not even needed to rev
fleet zealot
like
opaque island
Mk 2 evisc with max martrdom attackspeed buffs from wounds you can almost swing the thing as fast as you can click
thats an overexageration
fleet zealot
pull up a video of your chsword
opaque island
but you can swing it really fucking fast i love it
fleet zealot
oneshotting a crusher in t5 meatgrinder
opaque island
no shot
red swift
ok give me 5 min or smthn
fleet zealot
like you are going to need to do the fotf trick to even have a chance
red swift
hmmmmmmmmmmm
north sedge
mk12 chaxe just does it with thrust
fleet zealot
it's just way less damage and bloodletter takes away any speed you think of
opaque island
evisc maybe, and even then i barely kill crushers on t4 with it in one swing
north sedge
i prefer mk4 overall, but mk12 has the best cara dmg hands down
leagues better than a chainsword, either of em
at cara
fleet zealot
yea chsword has a rev, to help with it's single target, but it's nowhere near as strong as chaxe or evi when it comes to single target
cause it's a fucking blender
fucking remember that bug where stacking too much attack speed and spamming lights on chsword would make your weapon barely visible cause you were swinging too fast
remember the people exploiting the weapon swap with a script to attack like 5 times a second with chsword
red swift
I dont have the new chaxe
royal vortex
zip bomb
ripe quest
<@239404785453760512> we the kindred demand a new pox100 graph
Sure, gotta push some HD2 stuff first but I can get a new chart.
red swift
also that didnt come in right
misty nova
400 mb 💀
acoustic dune
use a hand canon
spare talon
Video isn't loading
What is it showing
north sedge
It's showing odd chaxe usage and a chsword being slower than that, killing a crusher
opaque island
It's showing odd chaxe usage and a chsword being slower than that, killing a cru...
its to demonstrate time to kill when not using chastise, later they do it with the revved heavy chastise buff and the chainsword does it in one while the chaxe leaves it barely alive
drifting wolf
Sure, gotta push some HD2 stuff first but I can get a new chart.
thank you my lord and savior
north sedge
Plus if you're gonna rev attack use a heavy
red swift
with headtaker/slaughterer and momentum in an actual game CHAX light attack is probably just better at crusher killing
and by probably I mean yeah
even less reason to use newer chax
or thunderous if you're feeling frisky
north sedge
It comes down to preference, both are great at killing cara, both much better than chsword at it
red swift
meta abuser fan vs. use what you want enjoyer
red swift
META ABUSER AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
south folio
is chaxe considered meta
misty nova
Strong is fun, yeah 💪
red swift
Chaxe is very strong, idk if I'd say it's meta though
north sedge
Nobody was pushing meta anything
south folio
yeah it would certainly be the first time that i'd hear chaxe be called meta
very unusual indeed
north sedge
Simply saying chsword and chaxe do different things
ornate bone
chain chsword and chain chaxe
fleet zealot
Meta this meta that have you ever met the delicious taste of cinnamon toast crunch?
ornate bone
Meta this meta that how about I download your human consciousness into Zuckerberg's Meta app
fleet zealot
yeah it would certainly be the first time that i'd hear chaxe be called meta
Fatshark saw me bragging about how braindead punishment mk4 chaxe was and nerfed it for me
ornate bone
mf
stuck dagger
Yall know that zealot build thats everywhere? The evis+bolter crit build with FOTF?
ornate bone
I know exactly what that tree looks like
fleet zealot
Yall know that zealot build thats everywhere? The evis+bolter crit build with FO...
Gameslantern and youtube?
Idk which specific one
stuck dagger
isnt there like, 2-3 weapons better suited to that build than the evis lmao
stuck dagger
Gameslantern and youtube?
Pretty much, i notice there's like, so many ppl who cover it, who use pretty much the same base talents
fleet zealot
If you want a single auto/slower firing weapon, go revolver, or if you dont want to meta abuse, a headhunter autogun, agri shotgun
red swift
Go backstabber bruh
red swift
Nah that build is the one stop shop for every weapon
fleet zealot
Fucking commit to a side
ornate bone
I'd go into your house
fleet zealot
Edited that cause it looked bad
ornate bone
what the fuck is this why aren't you going crit
stuck dagger
Fucking commit to a side
Ive seen more builds go blazing piety nowadays but yeah
red swift
Guys this build is peak
fleet zealot
Like go momentum and don’t grab crit nodes, grab good balance for DR instead
red swift
Dont need to go piety
fleet zealot
Or if you want crit so bad take piety so you actually have reliable crit rate
red swift
nah momentum too good
stuck dagger
But I mean back to my point right, whichever node you go this is the "left click" zealot build so like
fleet zealot
Evi crits aren’t spectacular but they do help with a few breakpoints
stuck dagger
why do so many people run eviscerator
fleet zealot
why do so many people run eviscerator
Class weapon
red swift
opaque island
I never see any martyrdom builds man, i know its kinda gimicky and not the best choice but like i NEVER See it
opaque island
face your fear
red swift
I am now become buzz lightyear
ornate bone
why do you even go for thy wrath be swift
stuck dagger
But...I'm pretty sure even the heacvy sword suit this build better right
ornate bone
just don't get hit
stuck dagger
I never see any martyrdom builds man, i know its kinda gimicky and not the best ...
Theres a youtuber called Vamp who always goes martyrdom zealot
like alwayd
in 80% of his zealot videos
fleet zealot
Too reliant on hitting it’s flat damage BPs since it runs zealot
fleet zealot
why do you even go for thy wrath be swift
It’s an evi
misty nova
I never see any martyrdom builds man, i know its kinda gimicky and not the best ...
"not the best" as I stat check every enemy
opaque island
with max wounds and the damage reduction on 40% of every wound you become suprisingly tanky
opaque island
"not the best" as I stat check every enemy
im just saying that cause i never see anyone running it in pubs
i quickplay
fleet zealot
Chain weapons and thunderhammers should always take twbs and it’s optional for other weapons
ornate bone
It’s an evi
ah ok
spare talon
I see it a decent amount
But I'm the weirdo trying to find struggling teams in QP heresy
stuck dagger
i quickplay
yeah everyone's running evis and left click builds in my quickplay pubs
or support zealot for some reason
opaque island
I see it a decent amount
But I'm the weirdo trying to find struggling teams in Q...
I wonder if we've ever ran into each other
ornate bone
does anyone run heavy sword?
fleet zealot
Martyrdom gives way more than momentum but people don’t like any sort of risk
fleet zealot
does anyone run heavy sword?
Heavy sword is great anti everything besides cara and unyielding
misty nova
Just avoid the mk7
ornate bone
Heavy sword is great anti everything besides cara and unyielding
I mean in quick play I haven't checked there
fleet zealot
Absolutely butchering 4 elites at a time with deathblow
opaque island
Martyrdom gives way more than momentum but people don’t like any sort of risk
the risk is the fun, also with um i forget waht its called but the health regen after losing health makes you actually unstoppable if you can control the damage you're taking
north sedge
Marty has risk?
ornate bone
Just avoid the mk7
I religiously use the Mk IX
stuck dagger
Actually why tf do I keep seeing support zealot now that i think about it
fleet zealot
I would not use quickplay as a quesswork at the meta
opaque island
actually yea when i think about what i typed thats like the opposite of risk, the risk is you fuck up or have a bad team that doesnt help you
fleet zealot
The builds usually suck and people avoid it
stuck dagger
Every 2nd match i have with a zealot in pubs, its a support zealot
fleet zealot
The “risk” doesn’t have to be real josh
ornate bone
I would not use quickplay as a quesswork at the meta
not the meta, just want to know if people use it at all
fleet zealot
It’s like marksman focus
opaque island
I see it a decent amount
But I'm the weirdo trying to find struggling teams in Q...
you probably wont remember, but if you ever see sister kartosa in QP heresy, das me
fleet zealot
People read it and end up playing like dorks then complaining about how weird and weak it is
Oh i guess i gotta go down a lot… better take damage on purpose instead of letting chip build up
opaque island
i mean i do sometimes stand in fire barrels when my team actually wont even let me take chip damage cause we're just crushing it
fleet zealot
Same shit with MF… oh i gotta sit still cause i can’t land a headshot to save my life so i can move
I’ve seen absolute gods with MF briskly run through levels without pause
opaque island
whats the trick to marksmans focus?
stuck dagger
I’ve seen absolute gods with MF briskly run through levels without pause
Yall know that weird like Krieg thematic veteran build? I occasionally see it? In pubs
fleet zealot
whats the trick to marksmans focus?
Headshots and headshot kills let you keep stacks while moving, longer for headshot kills
stuck dagger
Fkin weirdo veterans run em
spare talon
I wonder if we've ever ran into each other
I think I'm on na west?
Zealots name is Lestrade and I use the blueish easy simple penance clothes with that one circle cyber eye
Basically only ever using dclaw or knife
misty nova
whats the trick to marksmans focus?
Hit heads
stuck dagger
They take MF and the Kreig musket looking lasgun, and they use the bayonet?
opaque island
Headshots and headshot kills let you keep stacks while moving, longer for headsh...
ah see, im not a good shot thats why i like zealot
fleet zealot
Helbores are based
opaque island
I think I'm on na west?
Zealots name is Lestrade and I use the blueish easy simp...
We're gonna have a spiderman moment one day
sacred jay
stuck dagger
I usually kick most veterans who run that build ngl, but I have to admit there’s some veterans who really fuck hard with that build
Idk what it is or how they do it
fleet zealot
ah see, im not a good shot thats why i like zealot
True i can see not liking it, but even after it got buffed people are calling it weak when it’s really just “git gud” the keystone
fleet zealot
I usually kick most veterans who run that build ngl, but I have to admit there’s...
Bruh wtf is wrong with u
stuck dagger
You don’t understand
Most of them
Can’t fight to save their life
It’s actually insane
ornate bone
ah see, im not a good shot thats why i like zealot
instead of hitting headshots with guns I hit headshots with swords
stuck dagger
Like downed to a bunch of poxwalkers type
opaque island
instead of hitting headshots with guns I hit headshots with swords
exactly!
stuck dagger
And I mean usually they leave so I don’t have to kick 🤣
fleet zealot
Ive had to kick like, 3 people in my entire game time since pre order beta
stuck dagger
But yeah
fleet zealot
There is a 4th recent who we couldnt kick cause he had a duo buddy
stuck dagger
I should be more patient 😅😅😅
opaque island
im not saying this to brag or nothing, but unless someone is afk we are suffering through this until you decide your not having fun and leave or we get to the end or lose
there is no kick for bad players
opaque island
we suffer, for suffering brings growth
misty nova
They take MF and the Kreig musket looking lasgun, and they use the bayonet?
Stack is granted on ranged spot kills
They probably have camo if they are using Helbore
red swift
My Main vet build is helbore mk2 and exe stance
fleet zealot
there is no kick for bad players
Ok for this one player, he was constantly going down, dying, reconnect abusing
red swift
Never kick based
fleet zealot
Like, he was going down in record times
ornate bone
Like, he was going down in record times
clearly this is a new highly difficult very technical strategy
fleet zealot
I think his shortest lifespan he reconnected, walked into bursters and was dead in 20 seconds and he just reconnect abuses
ornate bone
you see, if you die, you cannot be killed again
fleet zealot
When we finally call him out on it his duo comes in to defend him lmao
So it’s just a 2v2 cause my other teammate was trying but the loser’s duo wasn’t good just passable
craggy notch
I usually kick most veterans who run that build ngl, but I have to admit there’s...
🤡
fleet zealot
Obviously it’s our fault we didn’t support this exceptional player and save him from deaths he could not stop
sacred jay
I just dont like running keystones on vet period
fleet zealot
I love weapon spec
sacred jay
Other than needing 6 skillpoints for its other benefits
fleet zealot
Such a good juggler design
sacred jay
I prefer zealots needing just 3 to get all out of them
fleet zealot
Focus target is just braindead OP tho
ornate bone
you guys play vet?
ivory marlin
i main vet
sacred jay
I play all
ornate bone
I only play zealot
fleet zealot
Zealot players and zealot chat multiclass a lot compared to other classes
sacred jay
Lasgun zealot
fleet zealot
I play all 4 classes at auric damn+ level i simply play zealot the most
ornate bone
Lasgun zealot
no thanks, I prefer not to use guns
fleet zealot
Prettt sure ogryn then vet has the highest concentration of true mono classers
sacred jay
Le spy tf2
modern lintel
i love revolver vet
Brain blast tier
ivory marlin
i can 1 shot crushers
sacred jay
I like revolver on my squad leader build
Powersword hordes and snipe gunner or two in the middle with zarona
ivory marlin
i run knife and revolver
fleet zealot
Killing everything with infinite ammo and competent melee killing
sacred jay
Deadeye bolter
modern lintel
My two i bounce between for vet are bolt pistol power sword and knife double barrel
fleet zealot
Yes as i said
Martyrs “risk” is that it sounds scary
It’s always going to be niche
misty nova
I have yet to use my "heal when 4 corrupted wounds" rule
misty nova
stuck dagger
Prettt sure ogryn then vet has the highest concentration of true mono classers
I was an ogryn mono classer until recently
Played psyker then only got into zealot last week😅
I think it’s cos the ogrynomicon has like so many builds that you can just keep playing ogryn with different styles
spare talon
We're gonna have a spiderman moment one day
(My steam name is HP Office InkJet Pro 6978)
hushed agate
No wound curios aint actually that bad
Replaced it with stamina and now i can spam push more
And it probably saved me a couple times from being mauled by dreg ragers
stuck dagger
What’s the usual curio combination for non-martyrdom builds?😅
hushed agate
What’s the usual curio combination for non-martyrdom builds?😅
For most people its seems two toughness and one health
hushed agate
hushed agate
spare talon
https://tenor.com/view/500-cigarettes-the-orville-gif-7658479820042125764
im not gonna lie
i rolled a few
but then i remembered that rashad is likely to be fucking obliterated with itemization
hushed agate
Did they announce a bm nerf?
spare talon
no but its like
we're all anticipating it
frosty herald
They already did nerf it so im not expecting anything
spare talon
they nerfed HC on revolver and people are still expecting a nerf on that too
plus how many times did psword get nerfed
frosty herald
Once with just power cycler i think?
spare talon
i join a qp damnation
only 1 guy
start of mercantile
blows the wall
dies to the 3 ragers
leaves
crisp furnace
hushed agate
Im so happy i dont get the specimens you people talk about on here
I just get the regular kind of shit players
frosty herald
start of mercantile
blows the wall
dies to the 3 ragers
Dying to the 3 starting ragers is unreal
spare talon
when i see a cliff i jump off it
acoustic dune
eh
spare talon
and i get trapped while invis
frosty herald
You know what happened right
acoustic dune
and i get trapped while invis
was it a wipe out?
acoustic dune
You know what happened right
BDSM
spare talon
i totally know it was the other guy who was targeted
but i just didnt expect him to deliberately put me between him and the trapper
frosty herald
Thats genuinely nasty work
acoustic dune
but i just didnt expect him to deliberately put me between him and the trapper
bad luck i guess
frosty herald
Werent trappers not able to shoot through enemies
Or was that a change everyone wants
hushed agate
Werent trappers not able to shoot through enemies
Pretty sure they can
If they aren't supposed to
Well uhh
I think its bugged
spare talon
Werent trappers not able to shoot through enemies
they always could
they can shoot through a phalanx of bulwarks, bosses, the works
frosty herald
they always could
I see
spare talon
Thats genuinely nasty work
but yeah
no kind act goes unpunished
this is what happens when i try to help my team
frosty herald
Dont worry pookie bear ill make sure to use you as a meatshield from ragers <3
spare talon
Dont worry pookie bear ill make sure to use you as a meatshield from ragers <3
me using shroudfield for the entire duration just to redirect all of them to you
frosty herald
Ill use shroud too
hushed agate
Competitive griefing
visual stream
What's the latest game other than Darktide that we're talking about these days
frosty herald
What's the latest game other than Darktide that we're talking about these days
Hmmmm
Space marine 2
visual stream
Space marine 2
spay mareen 🤯
hushed agate
What's the latest game other than Darktide that we're talking about these days
Zealot chat seems to be hooked on first descendant
visual stream
Do we know if they're doing that wave survival mode again
ember yew
marinade on sep 9
visual stream
Zealot chat seems to be hooked on first descendant
Sounds about right
ember yew
Do we know if they're doing that wave survival mode again
probably, since they already got all mechanics/instruments in place
from wwz
spare talon
huh??
spare talon
that would fundamentally obliterate my entire build and annihilate my damage output
acoustic dune
that would fundamentally obliterate my entire build and annihilate my damage out...
just the monstrosity off the cliff
spare talon
ah yes
the famous cliff on this part of the map
silly me
a sniper just shot at me which i dodged, then immediately after another shot at me, with no audio cue, and instantly one shot my entire health
acoustic dune
ah yes
the famous cliff on this part of the map
just throw them off the map like a real gamer
acoustic dune
a sniper just shot at me which i dodged, then immediately after another shot at ...
prob at the same time
spare talon
there were only 2 snipers
acoustic dune
there were only 2 snipers
could happen
left iron
The sniper hit you and you had this much health left after
left iron
SKISSU
frosty herald
The echo bubble deals additional hits
hushed agate
Relic actually has a passive buff that makes sound cues more noticeable
spare talon
they need to actually be played to be noticed lmao
acoustic dune
Relic actually has a passive buff that makes sound cues more noticeable
relic my beloved
use relic walk up to them
punch
hushed agate
they need to actually be played to be noticed lmao
I can hear it just fine
Because i got my relic on me
spare talon
im going to strangle you and leave your corpse in an applebees dumpster
spare talon
skill issue
left iron
acoustic dune
im going to strangle you and leave your corpse in an applebees dumpster
ill just relic you
frosty herald
Gonna hack into cole's steam and buy him 20 nsfw games
obsidian prairie
https://youtu.be/2gXz5-608Ns?si=xCCMvYegOtkUtuhh
Hunting horn with a fucking counter
frosty herald
Echo bubble looks really cool
spare talon
Gonna hack into cole's steam and buy him 20 nsfw games
yo cool free games
acoustic dune
Gonna hack into cole's steam and buy him 20 nsfw games
are you gonna hack him and put amorous in his steam?
frosty herald
Im gonna put every single nekopara game and dlc in his library
hushed agate
are you gonna hack him and put amorous in his steam?
acoustic dune
Im gonna put every single nekopara game and dlc in his library
put honey 2 select in it
obsidian prairie
Echo bubble looks really cool
I think it’s just the tiny AoE buffs made into a larger area
spare talon
And it will be very humiliating!!!
and i can easily just
delete the games from my account
frosty herald
Your activity tab tells otherwise
hard nexus
acoustic dune
play snoot game
acoustic dune
fang my beloved
frosty herald
play snoot game
Wani
spare talon
it was the second sniper
the silent sniper
hard nexus
<@265332960792805378>
second sniper broke your toughness, stunned you, and chaos spawn finished you
i think
hard nexus
the silent sniper
you can hear the sound of it
hushed agate
you can hear the sound of it
He cant hear it because he doesn't have his relic
acoustic dune
(i only got 1 ending on snoot game)
spare talon
you can hear the sound of it
i can hear the sound of it HITTING, but not the audio cue before it fires
left iron
The sniper just double tapped you
hard nexus
small indie studio…
hushed agate
which game?
Vermentide
spare talon
theyre trying to gaslight me into using stinky nerd book instead of cool and epic stealth
frosty herald
Gator gf
frosty herald
theyre trying to gaslight me into using stinky nerd book instead of cool and epi...
Ngl you were in a corner fighting that spawn
acoustic dune
that play guitar
hushed agate
theyre trying to gaslight me into using stinky nerd book instead of cool and epi...
Its a relic not a book
hard nexus
theyre trying to gaslight me into using stinky nerd book instead of cool and epi...
just be a real man and run no ability
if u can’t solo a maelstrom with no ability you suck and should die
hushed agate
Thats why youre stuck getting shot by snipers
spare talon
Ngl you were in a corner fighting that spawn
id been dragging him around the room
i just always make sure the right hand side is free
left iron
Woe, spirit of chaxe from beta/2022 upon yee
spare talon
most of that fight had taken place on the other side of the room out of the snipers LoS
but the game kept spawning poxbursters in the doorway behind me
hushed agate
i could’ve dodged the sniper
Step one of learning to play zealot is not washing yourself
hard nexus
lmfao
spare talon
so i just fucking gave up and moved away from it
hard nexus
hard nexus
most of that fight had taken place on the other side of the room out of the snip...
technically speaking
u did have a way of knowing the sniper was gonna shoot
acoustic dune
https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-gif-25869644
lies
hard nexus
without hearing it
acoustic dune
thats a touhou player
hard nexus
the laser went still
hard nexus
thats a touhou player
troo
hard nexus
the laser went still
also ur fighting a chaos spawn if u aren’t at 0 dodges ur doing it wrong
spare talon
the laser went still
there was no way to notice that with how much was going on
frosty herald
I know a good change
frosty herald
What if the sniper beam becomes gradualy brighter until it shoots
hard nexus
there was no way to notice that with how much was going on
i mean me personally….
spare talon
i legit cannot even see it going still in the recording
hard nexus
What if the sniper beam becomes gradualy brighter until it shoots
that’d be dumb
idk actually
i think they just need to fix the audio
hushed agate
Bro dont got the seeing relic either...
hard nexus
i’m gonna lie
frosty herald
Access deez
acoustic dune
jeez
hard nexus
spare talon
that clip is just so infuriating cuz up until that point i had basically the entire thing under control
and then 1 silent audio cue ruins the run, as it usually does
hard nexus
bored
acoustic dune
idk if i should buy ultrakill or not
hard nexus
that clip is just so infuriating cuz up until that point i had basically the ent...
yeah fair
bleh
acoustic dune
it’s worth it
dont know if its my style anymore
hard nexus
dont know if its my style anymore
do u like trepang2
frosty herald
idk if i should buy ultrakill or not
hard nexus
ur one of the people that have it right
acoustic dune
never tried it
spare talon
idk if i should buy ultrakill or not
its worth at least 1 playthrough
hard nexus
https://tenor.com/view/trepang2-gif-14534662771610938522
trepang2 is awesome but like
idk
ultrakill is better imo
frosty herald
Do rage mode horizon hq NOW
hard nexus
the combat feels better refined, levels feel nice
hard nexus
Do rage mode horizon hq NOW
no i’d rather actually touch a vagina
acoustic dune
its worth at least 1 playthrough
thing is idk if fast pace game are my style anyomre
spare talon
you dont have to be a super gamerpilled scoremaxxer speedrunner style like a lot of people who play ultrakill are
you can just
play the levels
frosty herald
no i’d rather actually touch a vagina
hard nexus
you dont have to be a super gamerpilled scoremaxxer speedrunner style like a lot...
to be fair the game is super short doing just that
acoustic dune
(i use to play a lot of shooter back when i was a wee lad)
left iron
Did you end up playing Rabbit and Steel, Cole? I recall you asking about it
spare talon
Did you end up playing Rabbit and Steel, Cole? I recall you asking about it
i forgot to buy it during the sale
hard nexus
(i use to play a lot of shooter back when i was a wee lad)
just buy it
spare talon
then i realized my steam family library beta thing had it so i just went "lole ok"
hard nexus
if u don’t like it refund it
spare talon
hard nexus
i am
acoustic dune
just buy it
theres always the demo
hard nexus
bored.
spare talon
hard nexus
theres always the demo
then do that goober
acoustic dune
i did triy the demo
left iron
obsidian prairie
Did you end up playing Rabbit and Steel, Cole? I recall you asking about it
What is happening here
obsidian prairie
theres always the demo
Demo of ultrakill is currently outdated I believe
hard nexus
do u guys think the next maelstrom will be worth getting out of bed
hard nexus
Demo of ultrakill is currently outdated I believe
yeah it is
spare talon
What is happening here
thats a very simple mechanic
hard nexus
but it’s good enough
obsidian prairie
Follow the colour!
I caught that part
Not anything else that was happening there
spare talon
@left iron i think i first heard ab it from yakkocmn
acoustic dune
Demo of ultrakill is currently outdated I believe
so?
left iron
Stab the thing until it gives up
visual stream
Did you end up playing Rabbit and Steel, Cole? I recall you asking about it
Is it fun?? I tried playing a couple of months ago but didn't because I couldn't match with anyone when I tried playing
hard nexus
blblb
left iron
I do enjoy it, but i also do enjoy bullet hell games in general, and thats single player
acoustic dune
wtf even is rabbit and steel
hard nexus
I do enjoy it, but i also do enjoy bullet hell games in general, and thats singl...
play furi
spare talon
nvm i think it was some other game
spare talon
it even comes with a free game
hard nexus
pawesome
rocky nacelle
badass game
hard nexus
30 minutes on it
rocky nacelle
I was able to get my speedrun time down to about 40 minutes
way better than my first time which was like an hour and 20
the speedrun mode is so fun
acoustic dune
i need to finish project wingman
hard nexus
sad lesbian music
spare talon
I was able to get my speedrun time down to about 40 minutes
i only speedran it once after i first beat the game
which my time was about 1 hour
hard nexus
i need to finish project wingman
acoustic dune
on mercenary difficulty
rocky nacelle
i only speedran it once after i first beat the game
which my time was about 1 ho...
yeah basically how my experience went
then I went on to practice for furier
acoustic dune
that’s ace combat
i did play ac6 aswell
left iron
Is it fun?? I tried playing a couple of months ago but didn't because I couldn't...
Yes, but i do enjoy both the bullet hell single player and coordinated multiplayer. If you dont like one or the other, it can get a bit iffy
hard nexus
i did play ac6 aswell
ace combat six? or armored core six
spare talon
then I went on to practice for furier
furier was so fun
until the final boss
then i wasnt having any fun
acoustic dune
but god the difference of ac6 and project wing is so hard
obsidian prairie
I could probably beat project wingman on merc but I want to do it online so I actually get achievements
acoustic dune
ace combat six? or armored core six
both
spare talon
i think the furier final boss is actual bullshit
obsidian prairie
But to be honest crimson 1’s cracked ass plane is just carrying me
rocky nacelle
sorry cole I cheesed it for the S rank achievement (I had enough time and not enough hits taken so I skipped the star for the achievement)
lmfao
I went back to fight it after though
fuck that fight on furier
acoustic dune
i loved it
ayre my beloved
spare talon
eh i played it on switch so achievements werent a thing for me
acoustic dune
what build did you go with?
spare talon
i played it on that cuz i grabbed it for like
rocky nacelle
10?
spare talon
5 moner
rocky nacelle
dam